Good for Baker. I'm glad he's doing well. I'm neither blindly for, nor blindly against the man. It's great to see a player who believes in himself.

To see Baker unceremoniously thrown away by the Browns brought back the pain of seeing Bernie thrown away by Belichick. That was the last straw for me, and nothing would make me happier as a former passionate Browns fan than to see Baker get to the Super Bowl and land a contract with Tampa. I'm indifferent to the Browns now which is such a relief... no more Grossi, no more Mary Kay Cabot. I do watch games but I have zero emotional investment. I care WAY more about the players the team has wronged.

This show is so obsessed with Baker especially Bull who claims to hate him but always brings him up it’s crazy

@jeffconnor8821

5 ай бұрын

Again because Baker wasn't the problem we would have been better off with our picks and the cap space Point Blank end of discussion DeShaun Watson was a mistake it's okay to say that unless you think the Browns are going to win a Super Bowl with him he was a mistake

@stephenboyd85

5 ай бұрын

@user-qx8bs9fx6j exactly it’s like they wanted him gone so they have to be proven right so they want him to play bad… even though his failure or success has nothing to do with the Browns anymore lol

@stephenboyd85

5 ай бұрын

@@jeffconnor8821 I completely agree I never wanted Deshaun. I believe Stefanski sabotaged Baker those last few games knowing he was hurt but made him pass the ball a million times instead of running it with Chub because he didnt like Baker and wanted to justify moving in from him. I think Berry was in on it too

@stephenboyd85

5 ай бұрын

@user-qx8bs9fx6j true good point I’m sure Baker drives a lot of traffic

@georgeblackwell4670

5 ай бұрын

Sad!!! 🤦🏽‍♂️

Baker was treated absolutely shamefully by the Browns. Thrilled to see him get that huge playoff win over the Eagles yesterday.

@Sportsbob1

5 ай бұрын

Ironically, Mayfield has a better chance of taking the Bucs to a Super Bowl than Watson does taking the Browns. Not only this year, but probably going forward.

@TheNewAmericanMedia

5 ай бұрын

@Sportsbob1 the Browns were really good this year despite MASSIVE injuries. The Cleveland core is in tact, and we hope next year we can finally win the Super Bowl. So please please PLEASE, Baker, win your Super Bowl this year, so the Browns can win em going forward starting next season!

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Let it go. The guy did nothing for the Panthers. The Rams kept an often injured quarterback in Stafford over him, yet you clowns 🤡 insist on talking about how he was done wrong. Gthoh

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

@@TheNewAmericanMedia Super Bowl ? 🙃

@KenMac-ui2vb

5 ай бұрын

I agree. All I see from Baker is leadership and swagger. All I see from Watson is Watson.

Baker's dad is busy making a video of all the drops the Bucs receivers had last night and plans on sharing it on social media. Just kidding. It would be completely classless to throw your teammates under the bus like that... talking to you OBJ's "dad".

@runningbeard7380

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. The fact that they sided with that prima dona is what's wrong with the organization.

This guy is drunk lmaooo yall gave him 4 coaches 4 coordinators and he played hurt yall were 1-31 before him

@markross8861

5 ай бұрын

Well said

@nathanielburkes4987

5 ай бұрын

@@markross8861 it be guys that never played that think learning a playbook and getting comfortable in it is easy …This isn’t madden he prolly can’t recite a play or read a defense .At some point every qb that comes through Cleveland isn’t bad the organization is

@markross8861

5 ай бұрын

@@nathanielburkes4987 and it be .nice you can't learn to speak English so I guess a playbook is way to complicated for you .

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

She that’s the best excuse you can come up with ?

❤ Baker, he shouldn’t have been traded at all.

Couple of points. When you take into account teams over 500 during his time at the Browns, how many of those did he put up like 35 points and still lose? I remember the Ravens game he played and dropped like 42 points and we lost. When you list the TEAM's win loss record like it's Baker's win loss record alone you remove any blame from all the other reasons the Browns lose and act like Baker cost us those games. How many years have we been bottom 5 when it comes to penalties that keep opponents drives alive and kill ours? Freddie Kitchen season was an absolute train wreck for that. Felt like every single drive got killed by a holding or false start. And when the defense those years turned into a free pass turnstile you start playing from behind having to force crap. The Browns were bad those years and while Baker wasn't great, they certainly made him look worse. Changing everything about his offense like 5 times while he was here probably didn't help anything either. All I am saying is that you simplified this to a stupid level putting it at one players feet.

@jjdiddle7150

5 ай бұрын

Yes Sirrrr!!!!! Where was drop passes Stat as well.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Go root for TB

@THEFAITHFULPALADIN

5 ай бұрын

​@@Lawrence-sk8ttWhy not.... at least they're not a deliberately pathetic & dysfunctional franchise like the Browns have always been. The fans have been sk8ting around this fact for decades!!🤣

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

If we had same k and DC baker browns would've been unstoppable. Of course no obj as well

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

He had 1 winning season in Cleveland duh. Straight up bust

It's totally fair to bring up Baker when we give up three first round picks 230 million guaranteed and we haven't even got one season out of you yet I want DeShaun Watson to succeed I'm a Browns fan but it doesn't look good and in my opinion we would have been better off with Baker

@kevinrb9532

5 ай бұрын

So true, and when they lose many of their great players because of the Watson cap hit it won't be good.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

In case you didn’t know genius. He was suspended for 11 games his 1st year. He was 5-1 before his injury. Your boy was 9-8 this year barely making the playoffs with a stacked team. Be quiet

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

@@kevinrb9532you wish

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

​@@Lawrence-sk8ttthe bucks ain't stacked lmao...the browns are stacked

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

​@@Lawrence-sk8ttWatson was carried just look at the numbers

Cleveland tried to change Baker. What you failed to mention in your presentation was the Panthers were even more of a mess than Cleveland when he went there. Sean was already aligned with Stafford and Baker knew this. He didn't want a backup role. I am glad he left in the respect they love him in Tampa. I loved rooting for Flacko this year. Sad it ended as it did, but he did offer hope. I see no hope with Watson

@makeitallgaming8396

5 ай бұрын

Yep 100%

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Excuses excuses. If he’s as good as you clowns 🤡 🤡🤡🤡 think why couldn’t he turn the Panthers around? Why didn’t the Rams resign him ? Duh 🙄

Wait a minute, didn’t Bull just say , let’s not be too quick on saying a player is great or garbage? Pretty sure he did. Baker gets hurt badly twice in a season. Continues to play being a team guy. The Browns determine he’s trash and want a more mature guy. Pays through the nose for a guy in the middle of a big controversy over propositioning over 50 massage parlor workers. Oh yeah he’s much more mature. Baker goes to Tampa proves he can play but he still stinks. Wow! I’m not a Baker bro. I don’t give a shit about Baker. I do think the Browns did him dirty and I’m fuckin delighted today that he is rubbing the Browns nose n it. Way to go Baker.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Faker chose to play hurt when he was advised not to. Get your story straight.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Oh Faker is allowed to get hurt but Deshawn isn’t. You sound like a fool

Baker as had 8 Head Coaches in 6 years the most in league history,he’s not a great QB but he’s ok probably around middle of the pack but he has moxie and he always plays the best he can,he’s also a great teammate that’s the one thing I hate about Cleveland they spread rumors that just wasn’t true .I see why they tried with Watson he has a higher ceiling but they didn’t have to tarnish Baker’s reputation in the process

@Cooe.

5 ай бұрын

Modern Watson does NOT have a higher ceiling... You're fucking drunk, just like Cleveland's front office.

@tomlombardo6051

5 ай бұрын

@user-qx8bs9fx6jhe didn’t quit. The browns were eliminated from playoff contention

@arentube8123

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. I can't think of a single organization that intentionally bad mouthed a player on their roster just to weaken that players bargaining position when trying to negotiate out of their contract. The Haslams are classless.

8 coaches in 6 years. NO QB can be consistent in that enviroment. too many plays to memorize and keep separated. a play is called - screen in Stefanskis playbook but in one of the other coaches the play was a QB run. for example. He had 4 different coaches in cleveland. The problem was the head office. Greed on the owners part.

@makeitallgaming8396

5 ай бұрын

They say Josh Allen but Josh Allen would have been ruined by Cleveland. Baker made it through and now he’s better for it.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Excuses excuses

Having #1 defense is way more important than the quarterback position. Keeping Baker, the draft picks, and the money is way better than playing "Where's Waldo" with the physically fragile Watson character.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Waldo was 5-1 at the time of his injury. Faker beat the sorriest team in the league in the last game of the season, to barely make the playoffs. However I assure you that TB will get smashed by Detroit!

@Daladier70

5 ай бұрын

Agreed - I like a QB that is actually on the field for the season

@user-ol7xz5nz9p

5 ай бұрын

@@Lawrence-sk8tt Pretty sure Baker already beat the Packers by throwing a perfect game in their own home brah.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

@@Daladier70 you sound retarded

At this point, it is fair to say we would be better off having Baker (and the picks) than making the trade. To say otherwise is silly. Watson needs to show up big next year, and hopefully we stay healthy. To be completely down after a playoff loss when we overcame so much to get there is not productive.

@photonfartsqueeze6694

5 ай бұрын

I don’t think you can make that statement until Watson plays a full season. Next year will be telling.

@craigstark1522

5 ай бұрын

That is the problem, Watson has not played a full season in 2 years for us. We lost several early round picks and a serviceable QB. This trade has been a bust at this point. I pointed out I hope we stay healthy and Watson shows up next year. Us staying healthy includes Watson. I still think Watson has the potential to turn this into a win for the Browns, but he can't do it on the sidelines hurt. @@photonfartsqueeze6694

@ImOutOfMtDew

5 ай бұрын

You can't compare the NFC South to the AFC North lol. If Watson was healthy and played for the Bucs they would of won more than 9 games lol

@clmcoclmco2222

5 ай бұрын

@@ImOutOfMtDew suuuuurrreee you go ahead and believe that. Watson will never be what he was. He is done. and Photo.... Watson will never play a full season. He doesn't have the drive to do so. He has been so catered to he has no drive.

@Browns4life

5 ай бұрын

​@@clmcoclmco2222complete idiot statement, bottom line is YOU SOUND RACIST.

I like Baker if you get him cheap he’s not going to carry a bad team but a great clog on a good team,give him a line ,running game,and decent defense he’s a Super Bowl caliber QB he’s smart and has just enough talent to win a championship.

@makeitallgaming8396

5 ай бұрын

He’s a franchise QB. He may take 30 per year. He’s a team guy

@arentube8123

5 ай бұрын

Almost every preseason power ranking had the Bucs ranked in the bottom 3 teams in the league with projected wins between 2 and 4. Doesn't this show that he can carry a pretty bad team and make them significantly better? If not, then I don't know who you can credit for the dramatic over achievement of the Bucs?

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

He needs Superstars around him because he’s mediocre

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

@@makeitallgaming8396 garbage 🗑️

@urusledge

5 ай бұрын

He didn’t have a run game this year and had one aging elite receiver plus one good WR2 behind a young O-Line with a glaring weakness at left guard and a former guard playing center. Despite all of that he finished top ten in every passing production stat. Would have finished even higher in TDs if not for multiple good throws dropped in the endzone or within 5 yards with no defenders in between.

Okay, great. Now give me some D Watson’s stats. Let me help, and I might be off by one game, just like this guy. D Watson is 10-24 against teams with winning records and 26-6 against teams with losing records. He is 1-2 in the playoffs with 7 total TDs and 2 turnovers. He has a 91 QB rating and played okay in the divisional round in 2019.

PRICELESS, Baker getting his 2nd playoff win playing on not so great teams...😂 All the Baker haters, including alot of Browns fans so excited to get DW #4 & see Baker gone..How's that working out?

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

Baker playoffs 2-1 Stefanski playoffs 0-2

@andybales7318

5 ай бұрын

​@@klmn4346add in, 2 QB's with hundreds of millions in contracts in the AFC North..Lamar & DW each have 1 playoff win 😂 & make 1/2 a billion combined

title has a typo - not sure if it's a ton of pressure OFF the Cleveland Browns or ON the Cleveland Browns (instead of OF) - that being said, I live in Tampa and aggravates me to no end watching Baker have success here. Yes, changing some coaching staff made a huge difference, but, ever since Baker left - Jacoby and now Deshawn came in - the prior locker room "cancer" seems to have improved greatly.

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

Cleveland media makes s#it up about baker. Odell was the cancer

adam the cow needs to worry about his type two diabetes and leave baker alone 🐮

@margareteggers4628

5 ай бұрын

Go Baker!! 💯💪🏻

Honestly speaking, the Cleveland Browns need somebody right now with that Bravado on their team because they looked hapless in the playoff game against Houston.

@Daladier70

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, Baker’s intangibles keep teams from being so flat

Joe woods was holding the browns back not baker.

@lildudefromacrossdastreet7038

5 ай бұрын

So the turnovers, melting down against all the top teams wasn’t Baker holding us back??

@someperson8151

5 ай бұрын

​@@lildudefromacrossdastreet7038turnovers happen when OBJ and Landry run wrong routes.

@lamonesjr5563

5 ай бұрын

@@someperson8151baker is trash 🗑️

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

​@@lildudefromacrossdastreet7038when he has to try and get 30 points because defense isn't there, yeah it's on Joe woods and his zone defense BS

Dudes should have spent these 15 minutes apologizing for the hate. They can justify the Browns bufoonery decision all they want, the bottomline is this. Put Baker's 4 years with the Browns vs the 4 years prior to Baker being there and you'll see the truth. They sat here and acted like folks could be 'blinded" by that 1 playoff win, but when's the last time they had a playoff win? The Browns are the Browns and deserve what they receive.

@jimd5955

5 ай бұрын

I'm a old school browns fan and you are right, he was and is a better QB for the browns, if he was a black QB he would be praised

@KevinSmith-qd8sm

5 ай бұрын

@@jimd5955 both of yall are fucking hilarious but wrong he sucked ass he beat a eagles team that quit 6 weeks ago lmao y’all gotta stop. Dude had a good year wit one of the last 4 teams he’s played with and yall act like this is what he does 🤣🤣🤣🤣 please please stop and just enjoy he had a good year

@tomd7254

5 ай бұрын

@@KevinSmith-qd8sm yeah listen to you instead of Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, Troy Aikman , and Joe Burrows who all think Baker is a very talented QB…

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

​@@tomd7254STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN endorses Baker Mayfield and that's the bottom line

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

​@@KevinSmith-qd8smhis 1st 4 years were the best 1st 4 years of any QB in NFL history 🤡🤡🤡

I didn't know we were watching Skip and Shannon re-runs. Only thing missing was the "11 game stretch"

But again.... let's talk about the greatest 2nd half performance ever played in all of sports. Desperation leads to dumb decisions.

This team definitely made a mistake getting rid of baker. We gave up 3 first round picks and 230 million dollars to get a quarterback who has been undeniably worse the last two years. And now we gotta watch baker have 4000 yards and 30 tds and win more games in the playoffs. Its obviouse browns messed this up.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

I guess Carolina and The Rams also made a mistake? You guys tickle me. 😂😂😂

@Daladier70

5 ай бұрын

@@Lawrence-sk8ttregardless of which side you’re on, don’t act like the Panthers ever have any idea what they need to do. The Rams were never gonna keep Baker because they just needed to finish their season and get Stafford back. Your point doesn’t stand.

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

​@@Daladier70 I think that guy might actually be insane. I'm not joking

@anthonypa8045

5 ай бұрын

Yes panthers and rams both messed up too. Baker still in the playoffs and both those teams are sitting at home lol. But Stafford is a great qb, we all know that.

The browns are already trying to trade Watson according to espn, check it out for yourself

@photonfartsqueeze6694

5 ай бұрын

Completely untrue. It’s a suggestion ESPN made for the Browns to improve.

@jimd5955

5 ай бұрын

@@photonfartsqueeze6694 he is going to be gone, you can't have your all African team or that's what it seems most Watson fans want because he's not good

@frankseprino8610

5 ай бұрын

All the more incriminating of this front office!@@photonfartsqueeze6694

@ImOutOfMtDew

5 ай бұрын

​@@jimd5955Watson isn't going anywhere. Stop being a hater and root for your QB.

@jimd5955

5 ай бұрын

@@ImOutOfMtDew brother he's not good. Trade him and keep your core team intact then play flacco while you eat the dead Cap next season and then start looking for a QB and go and get someone who can pick potential talent at QB

You forget he single handedly changed the browns culture.

Been said baker was not the problem cheaper more reliable qb

@tomlombardo6051

5 ай бұрын

He isn’t a culture changer. He thrives off of an already existing winning culture like Tampa.

@karlblackwell4819

5 ай бұрын

​@tomlombardo6051 you must've forgotten the culture of the browns before he arrived there.

@tomlombardo6051

5 ай бұрын

@@karlblackwell4819 Baker never won anything in Cleveland. He was a career loser in Cleveland.

We didnt know how good we had it. Andrew and Kevin should be fired now for running him out of town. Deshaun was a bad deal. He has been here two years, hardly played, looks average, and we gave up good draft capital. How about that defensive performance? Myles and Denzel are burnt out. Our best shot just ended. Cant wait till March/April so we can talk about how good we are again.

Wow Bull looks kinda crazy in this video. I used to listen to him on the fan always trying to hate on baker and convince everyone that he needs to go... Ur wrong on this one bull. Just got to admit defeat sometimes. Congrats to baker on a Amazing season. Wish u were still here brown

It takes a team to win football games. The quarterback doesn’t have a magic wand to waive a win. He needs help from his running backs, he needs his receivers to get open and actually catch the ball. I watched many a game where Mayfield would throw strikes and many were dropped. Tone it down? Unacceptable. John Manziel was squelched as well. As far as I’m concerned, the current Browns is where good quarterbacks go to die. Every draft quarterback should avoid the Browns like the plague. I’ve been a Browns/ Steelers fan since 1961. I can still remember #32 (Jim Brown) bruising his way down the field. This Browns team isn’t even a shadow compared to the real Browns who now reside in Baltimore. Not worth watching or supporting anymore. Firing good coaches isn’t going to help matters either.

That WAS rude to Adam! Grow up and understand CONTEXT. You always need HISTORY. Kudos to him for putting together those facts.

Those “facts” are indeed facts, but it is undoubtedly stupid to mention because of how much turnover he’s had to endure when it comes to head coaches. We genuinely can’t judge him until next season because it’ll be the first time he will have the same head coach and offensive coordinator in back to back years.

@ImOutOfMtDew

5 ай бұрын

The coach isn't throwing the ball.

@someperson8151

5 ай бұрын

​@@ImOutOfMtDew didn't help when OBJ and Landry ran routes that weren't the designed plays. Why when OBJ was injured Baker tbrew one interception in 10 games in 2020.

@ImOutOfMtDew

5 ай бұрын

@@someperson8151 Because he was throwing short passes all season. Baker is gone. Get over it. Watson is the QB.

@tomd7254

5 ай бұрын

@@ImOutOfMtDew you mean the part time injury prone Quarterback ?

On that tally you’re presenting, the Cleveland Browns sole playoff win since 2018 was with Baker. So…. Should that really count? If we’re going by when we got rid of him and forward, then it’s Cleveland with 0 wins and Baker 1.

The overweight guy should focus on his health instead of Baker Mayfield's stats. I doubt he's ever played football. Here's a stat for the Browns - the all time franchise leader in passer rating with at least 25 games played is BAKER MAYFIELD. So - if those 4 years with Baker were not good, then that means the franchise is putrid. Stats are stats. Baker had 1 bad season in 2019 with Freddy Kitchens and by Browns standards, that was above average for the QBs since 1999. In 2018, rookie record for TDs. In 2020, great season. In 2021, good season with 17 TDs, 13 Ints playing with a broken shoulder. The browns win totals of 7.5, 6, 11, and 8 were the best run of victories for any QB in franchise history since 99, and he did it with 4 different head coaches. Hope he wins it all and rubs it right in Browns face. Make no mistake about it, Cleveland fans are rooting for him.

Defense was the problem baker would have been ok with this years defense.He was never a perennial pro bowler but he was top 10 for sure.

Poetic justice hahaha

Baker was never the problem. The problem was coaching and defense.

@lildudefromacrossdastreet7038

5 ай бұрын

Baker was a problem. Turn overs, could never beat teams with winning records, acting like a child in press conferences. I can definitely go on…

@frankseprino8610

5 ай бұрын

And KICKING.

@Browns4life

5 ай бұрын

​@@lildudefromacrossdastreet7038yep, pufferboy was a huge problem.

@Browns4life

5 ай бұрын

​@lildudefromacrossdastreet7038 what about all his cool song quotes though in interviews???...

@Browns4life

5 ай бұрын

You're clueless bud, Baker loses a game for every game he wins...it continued at Tampa in a shitty division with shitty teams man, get a clue.

Baker's first season was great for a rookie, even more considering the horrible record of the Browns under Hue Jackson. Second season of Baker, he made a big mistake... he supported keeping Fredy Kitchens instead of bringing Kevin Stefanski for the job. Third season, first of Kevin Stefanski, Baker was great again. But Kevin Stefanski would never forget that Baker preferred Freddy than him. So, on the next season, he made Baker look much worse than he was. He not only made him play hurt, but he asked Baker to try plays that would be very difficult and lead to a ton of interceptions. With that in hand, he turned the fans against Baker and did the "brilliant" trade for DW. Baker was sent against his will to Carolina. How did Carolina went this year with a number 1 pick? Worst team of the league. So, if you want to have clarity of Baker's career, you should not consider 2019, 2021 and the half of 2022. If you look at his numbers at 2018, 2020, the Ram's part of 20222 and 2023 with the Bucs, you can see the real Baker. I wonder how good would Mahomes be with Freddy Kitchens, Hue Jackson or at Carolina intead of Andy Reid and the KC crew.

This is the one time that Bull has done any research. Its still lazy. The Browns were 0-16 when he got here. The Bucs had a losing record last year and were expected to win less than 5 games this year. The Panthers are worse this year than they were with him. When you talk about Josh Allen you should at least mention that he was drafted by a playoff team.

Mayfield must be loving this shit and I can't blame him one bit.

What qb hasn't put up good numbers with Evans and Godwin?

@tosh.0reddy728

5 ай бұрын

Baker has put up good numbers when didn't have elite receivers as well. Also he had the worst rushing offense this year and had a career year

@sparks1792

5 ай бұрын

Oh brother moving the goalpost

@Merkathomas

5 ай бұрын

So, no answers? He went to a place where most recent QBs have thrived, is that not true?

@Merkathomas

5 ай бұрын

I'm not taking nothing away from him I hope he balls out. But I won't sit here and act like he went to Tampa and did something spectacular. Winston had 5k passing yards with them boys and Brady got a ring!

@joshuamccall8043

5 ай бұрын

@@Merkathomas Winston also threw 30 TD's for 30 INT.

TB loves being led by Baker. Baker is a leader. The Browns trade for Watson will go down as the worst trade in nfl history. It's so Browns.

Let's not forget that Baker put the Browns in position to beat yhe Chiefs but horrid defense call gave up a first down to a scrub qb.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Then he threw the interception. You must have forgotten that?

@michaelhammond7115

5 ай бұрын

@@Lawrence-sk8tt the touchdown that was ruled a touchback....did you forget that? Of course you did cuz you're a clown

DW4 has alot to prove, am still riding with dw4 am not going to count him out yet til 4 years is up..

Such a d deal 3 number ones 3 number ones 3 number ones 3 🏈 Go Brown's

@frankseprino8610

5 ай бұрын

Berry/DePo are M0RONS!

So glad Baker is away from the dysfunction of the Browns organization

Baker’s record against teams over .500 is terrible.

@Daladier70

5 ай бұрын

Dak’s isn’t great either. It’s a team stat. Most above .500 teams are there because of coaching and Baker and Dak haven’t had amazing coaches. Stefanski is improving, but still out smarted himself a few times this season.

Paul Depodesta and 7 years of his moneyball BS is the worst thing to ever happen to Cleveland ! Watson will go down as the worst trade in NFL history !

@rccollins1456

5 ай бұрын

guy doesn't even live in Cleveland.

I'll never understand why so many overlook the obvious. Baker with OBJ was one thing. Baker without OBJ was (and is) another. Go back and check the games. Baker tried to satisfy the prima donna whiner by forcing the ball to him in double and triple coverage after OBJ's legs were gone and he couldn't get separation. Suddenly, Baker was a terrible QB. OBJ gets injured? Presto, Baker is good again and he's the first Browns QB since forever to win a playoff game. Funny how that works. OBJ came close to ruining Baker's career just like he ruined Eli's. Anyone who was paying attention back then could see it.

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

Yeah he literally went like 28/28 and 5 TDs right after Odell got hurt. Baker is still the only QB to get us a playoff win. Baker is now 2-1 in playoff games while stefanski is 0-2 in playoff games

@anthonypa8045

5 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. Great points. Now baker looks great and obj hasn't had a good season I like 6 years

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Prima Donna with a Super Bowl ring and was on his way to the MVP of the Super Bowl until he got hurt. Faker has never even made a pro bowl. Voted by his peers. Sthu

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

@@klmn4346 it’s Faker when it’s a win. It’s the coaches fault when they lose. A double minded person is unstable in all of his ways. Make up your convoluted mind.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

@@anthonypa8045 Super Bowl ring

Cleveland media obsessed with baker smh

So, where did theTexans get the1st round pick to draft to draft Stroud? There were 2 more1sts, a 3rd and 2 4ths as well. Watson's cap hit is going to bite them in the ass for the next few years as well; when Watson's contract is over it will be time for another rebuild. Nothing to worry about, though. Watson, shown to be a man of such high integrity will surely renegotiate his contract... SAME OLD BROWNS!

If Bull doesn’t get serious he will not be around to have too many more arguments. 🙏

@nogoodguitars5497

5 ай бұрын

I thought he was Joey Diaz.

Baker was scapegoated. Simple as

It's so satisfying that the Browns abject incompetence will continue to haunt them for many more years. Mayfield was the best thing they had going in the past 30 years and they dumped him for a pervert that has ransomed their team. You can tell this is personal to Bull because he misguidedly declared Mayfield a bust and sided with the Watson deal and now he's desperately trying to convince himself and us that he was right. He has no credibility with his position because he dismisses all the bad coaching, the constant coaching turnover and system changes, the major injuries Mayfield fought through, how bad the talent was when Mayfield got there, the losing culture, the ownership disfunction, the weather, etc. etc. I don't understand how he still has a media job. So sad, but expect Mayfield to live rent free in Cleveland for a long time.

@soonerrick6348

5 ай бұрын

Very well said!

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

The Bucs stop in Detroit. Then what will be your lame excuse. Oh it was the coach. 😂

@soonerrick6348

5 ай бұрын

@@Lawrence-sk8tt Wow! Such an intelligent, well thought out response. 😂😂😂 I don’t see where anyone said the Bucs can’t be beat, or that they will beat Detroit. Your response simply shows you have no ability to think. Only to hate. Hope that works out well for you, Lawrence. 😂😂😂

@Sportsbob1

5 ай бұрын

@@soonerrick6348 Lawrence is just a troll for his team that is watching the playoffs on tv from home. Best just to ignore him.

The Baker Man is proving that rocks are more football intelligent than Haslam and Berry. LOL. $230 MILLION, plus 6 draft picks down the toilet on a QB that sucks at running Stefanski's system! A 39 year old QB, with no OTA's, no camp, didn't play a game for 11 months, came in and crushed Watson's numbers. I hope Flacco returns next season! If he has OTA's, and a full camp with the guys and Stefanski, he'll be even better. He still has 2 seasons left in him.

Jay you’re wrong I totally agreed with Adam

I'm celebrating with Baker. Is Deshaun Watson that guy that makes six guest appearances every season?

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

You must have ridden the short bus. He was suspended for 11 games in 2022 but of course you wouldn’t know that.

@dannyfrisbie6443

5 ай бұрын

quit staring at the poster on your ceiling. do you have the pom poms as well? Its called a bad business decision, which has nothing to do with your fantasies. they paid 235 million the contract is now 40% complete and the browns organization has 12 starts out of 35 games from your dog DW. All you need to determine who got the best end of the deal between Browns and the Texans is to look and see who is smiling the most. {please refer to playoff video highlights}. @@Lawrence-sk8tt

From someone looking in from the outside....Your team was sooooo bad that BUD light was giving out free beer if they won a game....just one!. Mayfeild brought you guys hope and players came cause they had hope.....unfortunately after 2 years you guys thought you were a franchise and your QB was your problem. I'm not saying Baker was gunna be the one but you guys went from complete dog shit to contender and acted like you were only missing a QB.

Awesome presentation Bull... I loved it.. and agree with everything you said 👏

haslam/berry watson trade is worst in NFL history..

@FDP7777

5 ай бұрын

Stop

@bigredd1574

5 ай бұрын

take some breaths...@@FDP7777

This show needs more presentations from Bull

Great job Bull. Address the Baker bros and make that case for moving on from him.

@tomd7254

5 ай бұрын

Ridiculous take… Baker played for three of the worst teams in football.. what do you think his overall record would be

@Conshnz

5 ай бұрын

@@tomd7254 the fact is that he had 2 good years out of 4 with the Browns. They saw the inconsistency and wanted to move on, they didn’t believe in him being the answer in a division like the AFC North, where he would have to try to keep up with Lamar and Joe Burrow. He’s in a weak division in comparison now where u can win 7 or 8 games and win the division some years.

@Conshnz

5 ай бұрын

@@tomd7254 I’m actually rooting for Baker. We will see how far he can go now in the playoffs. His first real test will be the Lions. They aren’t gonna let him just stand back in the pocket and pick them apart. It will just get tougher if they end up playing the 49ers in the NFC championship.

He called out coaches, teammates, media and fans. He turned the ball over too much, was inaccurate, had way too many tipped balls and very limited field vision. When he did complete a pass it'd be a stop-catch play because he couldn't hit guys on the run. He had 0 come from behind wins and when the game was on the line almost never came through on the final drive. The fact is he never won us any games on his own. Like any job if you underperform and do it with an attitude, you may have to leave. ✌

How much of Baker's performance in each year had to do with coaching and schemes...

There is a clip of Baker throwing a TD ( forgot to who) and Baker is consoling both Landry and OBJ who are sulking in the endzone after the Browns score. That is all you need to know about the Browns culture at the time.

@Daladier70

5 ай бұрын

Baker is a spread QB, so receivers that selfishly want stats don’t like that and the coach has to hear about it and it just circles like that over and over

@anthonypa8045

9 күн бұрын

Baker got both landry and obj 1000 yard season here. Then just got evans and Godwin both over 1000 yards this year too. He had another great year in 2023.

Baker should still be QB1 of the Browns.

@abyz1467

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely not

@FDP7777

5 ай бұрын

Stop smoking

@frankseprino8610

5 ай бұрын

With this defense and kicker, I'll bet we would've advanced farther than getting bounced in the Wild Card round! We would have 3 additional #1 picks to address the roster holes we have too! Dumb Berry!

@ImOutOfMtDew

5 ай бұрын

Hell no 😂

No mentions of Woods, the wasted Freddie year and the OBJ locker room cancer

Get em Bull, tell em.

Bring up Deshaun Watsons Browns stats and record

I think Baker is in a division that best suits his ability to compete.... I still think he was a good quarterback for Cleveland but there were deeper issues at hand and in my opinion the issues at the quarterback position in Cleveland are still unresolved for the foreseeable future.

Last year he played on one of the worst teams in the NFL. Carolina did him a favor when they cut him. This year they were the worst team!!

I think the Bucs beat Philly in the playoffs have nothing to do with the Browns and Baker, it’s Baker needs to redeem himself for his NFL career, for the Browns and DW is one more chance next season if he’s not improves with the Browns sorry he’s gotta go, time for the Cleveland Browns franchise to move on for a new franchise qb

@jimd5955

5 ай бұрын

Browns are already trying to trade Watson, check it out

@Laxalis77

5 ай бұрын

@@jimd5955 👍

Baker winning has nothing to do with the browns cut it out. We are years removed from that.

@Browns4life

5 ай бұрын

Some folks just can't get over it.

@Primecheese

5 ай бұрын

He’s better then Watson

@jeffconnor8821

5 ай бұрын

The point remains though buddy Andrew berry looks like a fool we could win playoff games and kept our three first-round picks and all the cap space we already have not got our money's worth out of Watson so you cut it out

@jeremyblaine1866

5 ай бұрын

Years removed my ass! This can and will make AB LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT GM ! Getting rid of a QB that goes off and wins in another team and we get screwed by a dumb ass trade

@ImOutOfMtDew

5 ай бұрын

​@@jeffconnor8821Yeah like we would of been in the playoffs with Baker and beat the Texans 😂

Just let it go guy's . Congrats to Baker !!! Just move on !!!! Watson is are QB just be happy !!!!!!!!!!!!

The heavy set dude added zero context

J love Baker

Baker got the rookie TD record in 13 games...Who knows what he would have done in the other 3 if he had the chance.

I love how Jay just shuts down like every other Baker bro. Those were awesome stats Bull and it was rude of jay to say he wasn’t listening. You can’t just look at baker in a single game vacuum because some of his games are very impressive. Overall he isn’t a great player but everyone will see that as his career plays out. The best thing Baker is good at is being inconsistent. Baker was 9-8 and got smoked by the Saints at home and put up 9 against the Panthers with the division on the line. I’m far from dazzled with a guy that won a division going 9-8. If Watson went 9-8 that wouldn’t be good enough so that’s the double standard

@tomd7254

5 ай бұрын

Yeah Watson … the guy can’t stay healthy.. another year older and had shoulder surgery.. good luck with that..

@esedman157

5 ай бұрын

Stuck with him like it or not

@soonerrick6348

5 ай бұрын

Hate blinds you morons. I can put together stats to make any player sound bad if I hate them enough. But you CAN’T discount the fact that Baker NEVER got to become comfortable under any system because it changed every year. But your hate for Baker will never allow you to understand that. Hate makes you stupid.

Yo big dude…please eat a sandwich and let Jay talk. You cherry picked some stats that had zero context. How you have a spot on a podcast baffles all of us.

What's the big deal about Baker Mayfield winning last nights game? The NFC South is the worst division in football. Baker's ceiling is limited, you'll see next week against the Lions.

Some of you lot, Bull included, need to look at the record of STEFANSKI as well. V teams with winning records and also when the team are behind by 7 pts and esp 10. You make out these things are all qb based. Far from it.

Man get the boxing gloves 😂

I don't feel like cleveland needed to get rid of Baker, he was going through growing pains, he would've been a good QB for Cleveland in the long run. Plus more cost efficient than what we have now

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Still going through

Baker has grown but he’s still a middling starting QB that will not lead a team to a Ring. He could be pulled along by a great cast and have great moments. The Browns missed so far on Watson but he still gives you a better chance than Baker though not by much. Browns were right to move on from Baker regardless of the errors since.

@michaelsell6328

5 ай бұрын

If you think in any way watson gives the Browns a better chance to wim after watching the 2 qbs play this season, you might need your head examined.

Mayfield will be last browns QB to beat Pitt in playoffs for a century, lol, what an amazing game that was!

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Give him all the credit for that win. Please I dare you to post his mediocre stats in that game. He almost singlehandedly gave that game back to the Steelers

Bull and Jay were fighting like two children. Jay should be more professional. For him (Jay) to say " I don't care" is condescending, and a textbook-narcissistic comment

Until the Browns win a playoff game, Baker will forever live rent free in your head for all you haters OSU fans. DW played 6 games each year in two years making $230M, then a backup old QB took you to playoff. I can imagine what his teammates will think of him in the locker room come next season. I will continue to enjoy the stain of NFL and the shit show. For a team that last won division title in 1989, you keep dreaming about a "Superbowl level" QB and no QB is good enough for you. It's just too funny outside looking in. And now you a broke as f* to even get free agents.

“Ton of pressure of the Cleveland Browns”? Huh?

No it doesn’t put pressure on the Browns, Deshaun Watson is hurt, Joe Flacco threw those two pick six interceptions!

@jimd5955

5 ай бұрын

Sure it does, it would be like buying a really expensive car and it runs like crap while your 20 year old Toyota runs great and you get rid of it. Watson will more than likely gone from Cleveland this time next year and that's to long for the diddler,. Look up the word it basically means sexual pervert but he's African so you love him

No it doesn't because the Eagles were terrible and Baker plays in the worst division in 🏈

So if the browns are 1 and 36 before him then his record with the browns is a major improvement. Lets also see Watson's record with the browns and the browns record without Baker.

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

You’ll go out of your miserable way to give the credit elsewhere

Maybe it's frustration talking but I hate Watson. He doesn't deserve to wear a Browns uniform. They should have kept Baker and let him mature. Now he's gonna shove it right back up their asses.

@klmn4346

5 ай бұрын

I think many many browns fans share the same opinion

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

It’s not frustrating, it’s racism. Your heart is black and ugly

They’re obsessed with Baker!! Why Tho he’s on a different team

I like baker Mayfield he won our first game from 0and 16 and an playoff game so I have no problem with him

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

That’s all you clowns 🤡 have is he won a playoff game, as if he played 1 on 11

Well,Well,Well. Nope can’t go anywhere with Baker!!! Need to move on from him. Time to Eat Crow! Next year the Pressure is on for the Brown’s they bottom out. Won’t be any fan’s left outside of Cleveland. Just sayin

@Browns4life

5 ай бұрын

Baker is a bum, and you're not a Browns fan so stfu.

@abyz1467

5 ай бұрын

You can’t go anywhere with Baker. That has always been true.

@frankseprino8610

5 ай бұрын

Uh, no! Bucs are "going places" under Baker NOW!@@abyz1467

@clmcoclmco2222

5 ай бұрын

If Baker stayed last year the browns would have gone to the playoffs again. Baker took the browns to the playoffs, the next year he was hurt and didn't play well -should have been sat until he healed. they let him play. The following year they get rid of him but he was healthy and i would lay odds he would have kicked ass last year. the browns were stupid to let him go. He would have had a bit of consistency with coaches and players and chemistry as well. Go Bucs.

@tommyestepp2497

5 ай бұрын

@@clmcoclmco2222 of all my years of watching the Brown’s 47 I’ve finally came to the conclusion they are a FarmTeam of the NFL all evidence shows it. Now with the Texans trade and taking all our #1s next 3 yrs and a 3rd and 5th. There is no Doubt.

Hope baker wins it all THE GM and coach at Cleveland are chumps

I blame the Browns from moving on from Baker. It was clear after 2020 who he was when healthy and not chained to a terrible offensive scheme/headcoach. He got hurt in 2021, and they gave the farm to sexual predator who hadn't played in 2 years and has been miserable in his limited play since then. They absolutely made the wrong call. I said it when it happened, and I'll say it now.

@chaunceyg5657

5 ай бұрын

Keep on lying to yourself. Baker DEMANDED a trade as soon as they talked to Watson, like that day. If he would have been a grown up, he would have swallowed his pride, and when Watson said no initially they probably would have signed him to an extension. Like 6 teams tried to get Watson the year before, and Miami had a trade in hand. Last year 5 other teams were willing to give up the picks for Watson. How many other QBs demanded trades? Why do people like you stick up for the immature, insecure diva?

@Lawrence-sk8tt

5 ай бұрын

Let me remind you. The Panthers and the Rams moved on from Faker. Next question? Duh

Deshaun won a playoff game in 19’ 😂 do better guys