Jormungandr’s life cycle Atreus is told by future Jorm to go to iron wood -> Atreus resurrects a snake with a giant’s soul -> Snake grows fast and becomes jormungandr who fights thor -> Thor sends jormungandr back in time -> Jormungandr lives in midgard past that snakes birth -> Meets kratos and atreus -> Tells atreus to go to ironwood The cycle continues

@SergeantColdgirl

Жыл бұрын

@oliverrex Well, not when Atreus and Kratos first meet the World Serpent. He gets sent back to a time when Ragnarok didn't happen yet.

@marksantiago9841

Жыл бұрын

And after that it gets to live the rest of its life chilling after telling atreus to go to ironwood. Future jormungandr didnt got sent back in time only its younger self did.

@lordofudead

Жыл бұрын

A closed loop....made by a serpent...could one go far as to describe it as a Ouroboros? (althought thats a Greek thing not a Norse thing).

@marsxxiv5696

Жыл бұрын

HA he’s more of a Oroborus then isn’t he

@michaeliv284

Жыл бұрын

@@oliverrex41 Nope, not at this part of the game. This is early on

so this is how Atreus and Angrboda give birth to the World Serpent without even hitting puberty yet. If Ragnarok happened like a hundred years later, they probably would have done it the old-fashioned way.

@Oneiroi0

Жыл бұрын

*Bonk*

@calcetinsock3147

Жыл бұрын

*Circle*

@sum8601

Жыл бұрын

I wonder what happened to the goddess hel, perhaps she will be born later from atreus and angrboda

@finallyimginger3223

Жыл бұрын

i was fully expecting Atreus to vomit out a baby snake without any of the old fashioned way needed.

@Littlekoji-df1cf

Жыл бұрын

@@sum8601 oooh. Maybe😃

Its so interesting that the relatively small snake would grow up to become the fucking World Serpent. Also, wild to think that Kratos and Atreus will travel in his body in a freaking boat at some point.

@Dasanie

Жыл бұрын

He grew to be that big because Atreus put the soul of a giant in him if I’m not wrong?

@alexcameron877

Жыл бұрын

@@Dasanie yes but the world surpent from gow 2018 is in lake of 9 in ragnorak cuz he already got hit by Thor from ragnorak from the future so the jorm tht got hit by Thor in the new game is going to tell Atreus to go to ironwood and the cycle continues

@EpicDestr0yer

5 ай бұрын

In a matter of days too

Jorma woke up and immediately went "THOR! I WANT THE ONES!"

@zachp8163

5 ай бұрын

"CATCH THESE FANGS YOU DRUNK CARPENTER"

So, I'm guessing inserting a soul into another body also means that the new body undergoes certain physical changes. For instance, Jorm eventually grows to gigantic proportions and also develops human-like teeth, and grows vocal cords and tongue capable of speaking the Jotnar language. A more evident change is when Atreus inserts Fenris' soul into Garm's body - as Fenris, the giant wolf's body no longer has the bloodshot white eyes of Garm.

@nex_ace7813

Жыл бұрын

Not just the eyes, the entire fur colour of garm changed when fenrirs soul was put into it, it worked cuz garm had no soul to begin with. Same with the snake, he had no soul earlier

@Kncperseus

Жыл бұрын

@@nex_ace7813 Garm had no soul? Dafuq - how does a thing without a soul go around threatening to rip the fabric of reality?

@nex_ace7813

Жыл бұрын

@@Kncperseus while fighting garm, when he was again and again coming back after being "killed", atreus said "its as if he doesnt have a soul to kill" and thats why he was able to "vekja" fenrirs soul into him because two souls cant exist peacefully inside the same body obviously Before this idea atreus planned to tame garm ☠️ Then kratos planned to kill him ☠️

@BitrateBilly

Жыл бұрын

@@Kncperseus its a massive hel-walker essentially, hel's energies are capable of piercing the realms as they can resurrect corpses in other realms such as midguard, considering how powerful garm is its probably juiced to the brim with energy.

@auravaury

Жыл бұрын

@@Kncperseus like Brock, and he created a godkiller spear with only 3/4 of a soul

So let me get this straight: Atreus and Angrboda "birth" the World Serpent by giving a regular giant snake the soul of a Giant, which causes it to become massive. Said young Jormungandr shows up at the battle of Ragnarok, where it fights Thor. Thor then sends young Jormungandr back in time with this fight, where it proceeds to chill out in Midgard for a long time, before meeting Kratos & Atreus and helping them. A little bit later, he tells Atreus to go to Ironwood... which then leads to Atreus meeting Angrboda, acquiring the marbles, and then birthing Jormungandr by putting a Giant's soul in a giant snake. Huh. That's pretty cool.

@blanc-1517

Жыл бұрын

Thank u just cleared things up 🐍

@katastrofygames

Жыл бұрын

Yup, that’s the world serpents life. I wonder what it will do after Ragnarock though, since he’s still in Midgard.

@brandan5708

Жыл бұрын

@@katastrofygames it's not like he was simply teleported there, he was hit through time, he is likely going to be in a time loop for the rest of time

@katastrofygames

Жыл бұрын

@@brandan5708 I don’t think so. Remember that there are essentially 2 world serpents now, one that is sent back and one that was already sent back but lives in Midgard - that’s the one that told Atreus about iron wood + fought Freya. The world serpent in Midgard does not ever fight Thor again, which begs the question - what does he do now?

@metroplexprime9901

Жыл бұрын

@@katastrofygames I guess he just... chills out now. He isn't stuck in a time loop, the events already happened in a recursive kind of way. Less like a loop and more like a letter p. He made sure his own existence happened and helped at ragnarok as much as he could before Thor sent him back. Now he finally gets to see the rest of the future, instead of just the small glimpse he got.

Dude, I just love how that in battle everyone instinctively goes to Kratos for his approval and commands. When it comes down to it he is the general they trust. He's proven he had the right heart and motive. He's the true leader of their group. And what a leader he is.

@zach415

Жыл бұрын

He’s the only one of them who has had any real battle experience

@MCB93ASSASSIN

11 ай бұрын

Well, he was both a General and a God of War after all.

@SouMorse

2 ай бұрын

@@zach415 not really, Freya and her father Njord lead the Vanir against the Aesir in the Long War for centuries, that's why Kratos says Freya is capable is leading them too.

it didn’t even click with me until after the game ended that this was jormungandr i thought he just made a random snake in jotunheim lol

I hope they keep this series of games going. Kratos meeting gods of other lands is so fun to watch

@thegamewin100

Жыл бұрын

Yea hopefully they do other mythologies maybe something from Japan it would be cool to see Kratos with samurai armor or something

@chillingdog4139

Жыл бұрын

nah its better to end this way. the true ending of Loki surviving in Ragnarok and Kratos letting his son go. otherwise, they make a game of Loki's journey finding other giants.

@Gallade400

Жыл бұрын

@@chillingdog4139 I agree. The ending was more than enough. Kratos deserves all the rest in the world. He's done enough.

@sum8601

Жыл бұрын

@@chillingdog4139 The Kratos & Atreus story should absolutely end here true, it started in the Norse realm and concluded brilliantly at the end of it. I don't think we should see Atreus again but I also don't think this should be the end of the franchise. As the OP said, this formula works so well in both an entertaining and almost educational way that I don't think it should stop. The natural follow up should be kratos exploring a new realm by himself with his new found sense of hope and belief in the concept of godhood...or perhaps we see an entirely new god take on the mantle of war?

@teq8061

Жыл бұрын

Good thing the plan is for 5 more games after this haha

There's also a bit where Angrboda says the snake was growing at a speedy rate

That's an interesting turn on the lore. The snake that bites its own tail. Jormungandr indirectly creates Jormungandr by influencing Atreus.

@concept5631

7 ай бұрын

I think Jor knew.

@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs

5 ай бұрын

You just made me realize somehting when you mentioned the "bites it's own tail" part. You can say it's a stretch, but the "Bites it's own tail" could even be a metaphor for the cycle the Jörmungandr goes through in this franchise. He was reborn into a serpent, grew, got sent back in time, aids his 'father' and directs him to the Járnviðr where he is 'reborn' again, grows once more, fights at Ragnarǫkr, gets yeeted back in time, rinse repeat. He both starts and ends at himself this way, hence 'biting his own tail'.

This was bothering me even in regular Norse Mythology, how the hell Loki gave birth to World Serpent. I like that metaphor devs gave to us.

@adriank118

Жыл бұрын

I am more interested in where black women come from in the far north.

@crimlomotty2907

Жыл бұрын

@@adriank118 just a video game. Seeing a black person really peaked your interest huh lol. “It’s not realistic” 😂😂

@iniassmith3434

Жыл бұрын

@@adriank118 ummmm wtf dude. she’s an Egyptian Jotnar, why you gotta be racist. they’re trying to make it tie into the next games

@adriank118

Жыл бұрын

@@crimlomotty2907 can you imagine white african gods? that would be racism😂😂

@castorvolk

Жыл бұрын

@@adriank118 the black person is a magical being from ANOTHER REALITY. maybe drop your racism champ.

So that’s why the world serpent tells Atreus about iron wood

I didn't even realize this was atreus creating jormngandr, I just thought it was funny that the giant that was in the snake was just freaking out somewhere.

At the end of the game, Mimir will drop a hint that Atreus created Jormungandr when you are sledding around.

This scene makes me wonder what the soul was like when it was a Jotun, What did Thor do that made that particular soul want to hate and fight him so? Was the soul as wise and as ancient as Jormungandr was when he advice Atreus about the Ironwood? I'd really like to know that soul's history

@alienonlsd3209

6 ай бұрын

I would wager its Thamur, The Stonemason. He was the "giant" Jotun who was murdered by thor and whose son built the flaw into asgard to let Surtr in. It would also add a weird irony to jormungandr attacking the reanimated corpse of thamur.

@animeminians7451

3 ай бұрын

​@@alienonlsd3209YOOO WTF YOU GENIUS

@SouMorse

2 ай бұрын

The fact that Thor killed most of the giants is a pretty good reason

The clash wasn't as violent as Mmir cracked it up to be

I like how wide he is in the thumbnail

4:07 Damn i didn't know they have a cave troll in God of War 5

I just realized that it is the world serpent! Because mimir, Freya and Kratos started to talk about it and that's when I realized the world serpent is the same snake that atreus freed!

So the soul Atreus put in the snake was a giants soul that snake grew and became a giant and that’s how (insert snakes name here) was created and then he fought thor got sent back in time but didn’t fight in ragnarok again but the younger one did and it keeps repeating

@user-ji5bd3si9v

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Not technically a time loop. I know you didn't mention time loops, I'm just saying it isn't one.

@dutchvanderlinde4713

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ji5bd3si9v isn’t it called a bootstrap paradox?

@user-ji5bd3si9v

Жыл бұрын

@@dutchvanderlinde4713 I think so

@dutchvanderlinde4713

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ji5bd3si9v like Attack on Titan

@Mr.Sax.

Жыл бұрын

Name is Jormungandr

In other words Loki that’s is atreus he’s the creator of the world serpent 🤭🔥❤️ mind blowing

@boualiracim2939

Жыл бұрын

In the mythology loki is the father of world serpent so technically atreus is his father

@yatxielcrespo6455

Жыл бұрын

It’s mind blowing no wonder in the first game the serpent said he knew Atreus From Somewhere Now We Now Time Traveling Because Of Thor ❤️ i love the God Of War Games From The Beginning 🔥Nothing Will Compared To This Games 💪🏼

@MyKaddy420

Жыл бұрын

Also in the mythology, Loki gave birth to a horse after he, uh… "distracted" a stallion.

@domrick783

Жыл бұрын

@@MyKaddy420 mythology Loki is just build different

Wait a minute so the world serpent is only that big because it has the soul of a giant?

@TheMachine3165

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much yeah.

@kayveethegoat1573

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMachine3165 ok ok just making sure.

@BitrateBilly

Жыл бұрын

yeah, souls being slapped into other living beings causes transformations i guess, its why fenrir changes garms fur coat

I mean, i cant completely understand how those Jotun souls works, just like what happened to fenrir. Is the world serpent a serpent with giants memories, therefore an unusual intelligent serpent? or is just a giant trapped in a serpents body? Same with fenrir. In a living thing like garm, how is that now hes fenrir? does garm soul died or something like that? or they mixed up like some sort of milkshake?

@Limrasson

Жыл бұрын

I would guess it's like if the giant had reincarnated as a snake. So yes, it's a milkshake.

@SimonPetrikov12

Жыл бұрын

Garm had no soul. That's why he was so violent and couldn't die

@bluesnake1713

Жыл бұрын

Manifestation?

@darkemperortheobscureone694

Жыл бұрын

Atreus already mentioned during the fight with Garm that the wolf had no soul since it kept coming back after being killed several times which was why Fenrir's soul could take over since Garm's body is basically an empty shell

@thatterrariaguidenpc8054

Жыл бұрын

Fenrir's body has no soul, so he was more of a tank gone mad with no responsible driver in it Then when Atreus stabbed Fenrir in him, Fenrir just comes in to take control and stop the tank's rampage

I still want to know who blows the horn to call the world serpent in the GoW 2018 when Kratos was carrying sick arteus to Freya

@Ryuutha

Жыл бұрын

the horn is from heimdall after kratos defeat him and when near the ending kratos blow it to start ragnarok

@Kurios4Life08

Жыл бұрын

@@Ryuutha Cory Barlog has debunked this.

@KhepriProductions2022

Жыл бұрын

If I had to guess, it might've been Angrboda. It's a bit of a stretch, but I heard how when the sky turned red because the universe felt that Atreus/Loki was dying. Maybe Angrboda understood what was happening and went to talk with Jormungandr. Being from the future and Loki's "son", his pressence coulc confirm whether or not Loki died.

Question is.. which Giant’s soul did he use to create Jormungandr 🤔

@Frytranslationvanoss

Жыл бұрын

Maybe a giant just named Jormungandr?

@bluesnake1713

Жыл бұрын

But most of all, how many souls of the Giants are there left?

@wellyunnoso3087

Жыл бұрын

@@Frytranslationvanoss He literally grabbed a random Giant’s soul out of the bag, if it was Jormy’s he would’ve said something.

@Frytranslationvanoss

Жыл бұрын

@@wellyunnoso3087 Then how TF did the name Jormungandr come from

@765thatdude

Жыл бұрын

Jormungandr lol

Right I need to see how Fenrir and that 8 legged horse are created

@vortexvenom

Жыл бұрын

How fenrir is born is in the game but not the 8 legged horse

*sees baby jormungandr* wait WHY is that adorable!?

Bro grew so fast then feel urge he should go to Asgard immediately to beat Odin ass since he used to be a giant so he felt grudge against Asgardians for killing their kinds but sadly got sent back in time by Thor (Bros hammer so strong that it fcked up time barrier) Then bro choose peace 🕊️ and live rest of his life in midgard He's literally chillin in midgard

4:08 LOTR Troll sound! 🙌🏾

His current size makes me wonder how tall his was in his original body considering his big enough to stretch his body around the world

The one thing that I could never understand is this -- Where is the current, older, Jormungandr during all of this? I kind of thought that if anything, he would have been every bit as on board in having that round 2 with Thor.

Jormungandr: "Goodlooking bro."

This thing grow to be as long as the earth itself huh

tbh this has to be a paradox in a way

Madness

Why does the thumbnail look's like a moistcritikal thumbnail

They could probably keep this game going for a long time if they decide to let Kratos loose in India, no shortage of gods there. Imagine a Shiva Kratos fight.

@TheErikM

Жыл бұрын

Gilgamesh and enkiddu already seem like God of War characters.

@NSEBMB

Жыл бұрын

Never gonna happen. India is way too controversial. Making a God of War game involving Hinduism would get ugly fast unfortunately.

@ich3730

Жыл бұрын

@@NSEBMB not really bro xD asuras wrath took liberal inspiration, almost every fantasy game has some kind of hinduistic deity. gilgamesh and enkidu as names are mainstays in final fantasy. Its really widespread

@dylandownunder1584

Жыл бұрын

Won't happen. People still believe in Hindu and other indian gods, and in a game about killing gods I don't think it would go well.

@adel5637

Жыл бұрын

@@dylandownunder1584 christian mocking their own god tho in movies, cartoon etc

Atreus gave a random snake the will to live

I wonder what happens to his older self then

@amri007able

Жыл бұрын

Still chillin in migard

@reynsbasement2654

Жыл бұрын

@@amri007able literally "chillin"

So for a brief moment both Jormungandr's exist at the same time with both being absolutely massive in size... did future Jormungandr specifically find and tell the younger one to go to Ragnarok in order to keep the cycle going?

@BitrateBilly

Жыл бұрын

no, younger jormungandr was stuck in jotunheim while the older one was sleeping, the young snake came through the jotunheim realm gate in asgard when kratos sounded gjallarhorn

@cromugus

Жыл бұрын

except, the younger jorm was in Jotunheim and he basically followed from there not from midgard

so... is the snake trapped in a eternal loop?

@jesse100yrsago

Жыл бұрын

no the younger snake goes back in time while the older one is still in midgard

@danielwaldhoer7544

Жыл бұрын

No, that snake grows vary fast and fights at ragnarök. Thor hits the snake so hard that it gets send back in time. There it becomes known as jormungandr.

@poisonxvl5350

Жыл бұрын

@@jesse100yrsago I think it’s the older snake you mean

@jesse100yrsago

Жыл бұрын

@@poisonxvl5350 no the younger snake grew very fast the older one is still in midgard

@riverajustinmarks.

Жыл бұрын

Not really, there's 2 of them at one point but after the younger one fights Thor it gets sent back to in time so it technically it's not the same snake that is stuck in a time loop but yeah it's a cycle.

That snake got big fast

@Dr_Diaz

Жыл бұрын

What snake? I think there are two separate snake at one point.. the one you see getting tko was the world serpent

after their won the wars the fates is changed atreus and angrboda can make actual jorm, hel and fenrir maybe :D

Oh how i miss the game! I need to get another ps5.

Wait so was the serphant in the last game not the world serphant?

So, if they “create” young Jormungandr, and if said young Jormungandr fights Thor, gets sent back in time where it waits until Atreus and Kratos show up…. What happens to “old” Jormungandr at the time they create young Jormungandr? Two world serpents?

@f687sNFM

5 ай бұрын

It seems as tho the younger one made his way immediately to asgard, so older one knew and just let his younger self be

@SouMorse

2 ай бұрын

older Jormi is just there chilling in Midgard now

Did the marble say Jormungandr??

sad for the snake, it traped in time loop

@Mr.Sax.

Жыл бұрын

It is not, this snake grows, goes to Asgard, fights Thor during Ragnarok and gets sent back in time and never leaves Midgard after that.

Go look up some of the other children of Loki from the mythology. Sleipneir is a horse, and guess how Loki created the horse.....

Wait if in GoW 2018 ragnarok hasn't happen yet, then how's mimir knew the story of Jormugandr gets knocked back in time? Is it the prophecy of ragnarok? Or something else?

@negu1n_da_011

9 ай бұрын

Ele ouviu rumores

@SouMorse

2 ай бұрын

@@negu1n_da_011 ja havia sido profetizado, no santuario de profecia do Jormungandr diz "o passado é seu destino" em runas

@SouMorse

2 ай бұрын

it was a prophecy Jormungandr's shrine in GoW 2018 says "the past is his destiny" in runes

Why does Jormungandr1 not show up to ragnorak? He knows that his younger self is going to get blasted back in time by thor, so why does he not try and change his future??

OHH

@Tecnonuata1..

Жыл бұрын

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4:11 whose huge hand is that?

@ziah8995

Жыл бұрын

Probably Sutur aka "Ragnorok"

So basic he told Loki to go to ironwood so he could be born.

Bri WTH is that thumbnail 😭

It would have been far more interesting if the Angrboda section was just this. The fruit collectathon was too much.

4:07-4:08

I guess the idea to implement souls into the game was a nice way to circumvent the issue of fucking and bestiality

Sooo, subsaharan african? How’d that happen?

That's what this actually was????

First

@giulione3valenti816

Жыл бұрын

No one cares

So the world serpent is a female interesting

@bluesnake1713

Жыл бұрын

You mean by the soul or the looks of the snake?

@kevinnn9142

Жыл бұрын

🗿

@SouMorse

2 ай бұрын

it's a male

Jörmungandr's "birth" is incredibly anticlimactic and makes no sense. There's no way the snake would remember him from such a non-interaction, it didn't even look at him for more than a second. This also doesn't explain the mural at the end of the last game. Why would jörmungandr be depicted as being born by the screams of Loki and the soul of Kratos if that's not how he's summoned? There was some pretty strong evidence of Jorgy being Kratos too; lord knows it made more sense than this shit. What a waste of good characters; Jorgy being set up only to be wasted and Ateus not being the Typhon of Norse Mythology.

@Angel-.

Жыл бұрын

It could've been the giant which took over the body. in the first game Jorg just says he looks familiar and that's that. also in the mural, it would've been what would've happened if they strictly followed prophecy. What kratos and atreus did was forge their own path where they kill odin and jormungandr was not born of a woman, but was the soul of a giant.

@SouMorse

2 ай бұрын

the mural doesn't show Jomungandr being born from his screams lol that was a fan theory, that mural was depecting Atreus mourning his fathers death, which didn't happen cause they changed fate

wtf , its not even the same snake , lol

@kuronyra1709

Жыл бұрын

How? You realise that the snake growed up exponentially, (giant soul and all), joined Ragnarok. Got sent back in time where he then could live his life "normally", while stile growing up. Also, Snakes shed there skins once in a while, can even have some slighty different motif.

"Are you sure?" "No." "Well ok then you should have just opened with that"

what does the world serpent eat?

@darkmelodies2694

Жыл бұрын

I would imagine probably sea monsters/whales. Things big enough to supplement its diet.

I just came to realize that the snake is the world serpent.