This subscription model needs to go. It is horrible for consumer. Please do not enable companies that are going this route.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

It is where we are headed as a world though, whether we like it or not. And during the transition period, many of us are most certainly going to hate them too.

@The_Garage_Musician

2 ай бұрын

@@motorincthe same reply i was gonna give.

@CRAFTYKIDSCLUB19

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc For a physical item, a subscription would be risky, as losing my job would mean losing everything. I'm looking forward to a more secure future.

@Manmitkinggujju

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc lets call the water wet and say its a long term strategy to tie in customers and tied to ball and chain they will be , penny pinching done on a premium products without clarity is baffling and i hope motorinc as trusty guardians of motoring will atleast voice the concerns to ather , enen tho i love the products this is the only reason i havent bought 3 athers for my family

@abishvijayan76

2 ай бұрын

Most people do like connectivity features, if you wanna use Google Maps, you need to pay Google for the API, and pay for the cellular connections if it's a standalone system. So a subscription won't ever go away I guess, unless they charge you a premium with the initial cost of the vehicle. Technically, both are the same.

I really don't like the subscrition idea. It feels like I'm still re-paying my loan every month which i never borrowed in the first place.😂

When shumi was talking about the brick in underseat, l seriously thought he is going make the sound "KhabaDa KhabaDa". 😂

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Well, @kaustubhkelkar6651, if you can hear it without us saying it, we've done our job 🤣

@take-in

Ай бұрын

@@motorinc i have not heard it, but it beggars belief that ather wants to hammer it into our heads that if you try to save a few rupees and buy an S, then we will not stop telling you about it - whose brainfade led to keeping that moving part in an unlined container?

"Motorinc view" is excellent. Short and crisp. Just to the point. Need a lot more "motorinc view" on various cars and bikes and evs from you!!!

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thank you @suguvicky! Request noted!

The subscription plans have always stopped me from buying an Ather even when the prices dropped in Delhi. If there was 1 subscription then I could have understood but 2 subscription plans is questionable. Ather may argue they are giving a discount, but they are the one who came up with packs, prices and discounts. They should make it one pack and one actual price rather than putting the 'Ehsan' of a discount. I think Ather Rizta will also have the annoying subscription model. Update on the River Indie: Since River is not coming to Delhi anytime soon they refunded the money but kept the pre-booking slot. Hope they come to Delhi sooner.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Not only is the subscription model confusing and often listed as a discount -- which doesn't help - we're also learning to deal with subscriptions as a process which makes things harder. And you're right. Unless Ather does something radical, the Rizta will have subscriptions too. River: we've been testing the Indie - story as soon as we're done!

@Techno_Babble

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc - thanks for the update 😊

@nabeelshariff6006

2 ай бұрын

One small drawback where the positives of this machine outshines it Dumb decision to not go with that for that reason

@Techno_Babble

2 ай бұрын

@@nabeelshariff6006 - one of the reasons, 450x and 450s are too sporty for family. Will compare the family friendliness of Rizta to this drawback and then make a dumb decision. I can wait for River Indie if this doesn't pan out.

Glad you finally talked about battery replacement. If a scooter battery can cost you about 50-60K, then imagine why a car battery cannot cost a six digit figure or more based on the capacity and range it provides. Second hand EVs anyone??? As for now I only support EV buses for public transport.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

This uncertainty - and the time needed for a clear and expected picture to emerge - is why EV resales are so up and down today, and will take time to settle into a pattern for sure @akupegu1622

@swapnilbarhate6229

2 ай бұрын

If you consider battery replacement cost, I figure you need to ride atleast 15-20 kms everyday to recoup that cost. Else ICE scooters are better for sure.

@AtharvaThumbare

2 ай бұрын

even ev buses are major scam and breakdown very quickly

@theelectricmile474

2 ай бұрын

Valid point. Time and again people confuse warranty with life of the battery. Does the iPhone battery die after one year? 2W Ev batteries may no last as much as 4W Evs..sure it should be fine for 8-10 years at least.

@evthink

2 ай бұрын

There is one company that won't be named here but it now gives 8 years of battery warranty. So the battery should last atleast 10 years for them to give 8 year warranty. The same company is building a battery cell factory to make it's own cells. So you will get your battery replaced if it's gone within 8 years with a new tech battery made in India. The cost of battery now might be more but it will fall as soon as you get local production of battery cells like Ola Battery Factory. You will see this in few years. Then battery costs will be less and companies will also give like 8 years warranty to customers. There will still be people complaining that warranty should be 10 years and cost should be even less, but majority consumers will move to EVs and petrol Scooters and bikes would make no sense.

No other automobile YT channel videos are as polished and refreshing as yours *Just loving it* ❤

I am always surprised to see how strong of a foothold Ather has managed to gain. If I remember correctly, they're behind TVS and OLA who is the market leader. The price makes no no no sense to me and the subscription is a big turn-off but I still see them on the road all the time. Must be a really good product.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Indeed! It *is* a really good product for sure!

This video really gives me the vibes of Mac Vs PC. High quality, airy and calm

Fantastic narration loved it. Looking forward more of it. :)

Loving these ‘View(s)’!! Frankly, felt a lack of variety in long form content in the last couple of months but this is refreshing and exciting! Can't wait for more! P.s. very desperately waiting for ThisConnect S2

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Great to hear! We are working on ThisConnect S02. Stay tuned!

Fantastic video as always. Great editing . Would be wonderfull if you guys make a long first impression video about the Kawasaki W175.

Loved the content and simplified explanation

Would love to see you guys also covering some premium bikes upwards of 500cc. May be even few videos catering towards enthusiasts, talking about motorsports etc.

Hello!! Thank you for your lovely reviews. Was wondering if you could help me. I'm currently using a 12 year old Aviator which has done about 30k kms till date. I don't use the scooter everyday and at times 15 - 20kms in a day with my wife & kid. What scooter would u recommend for a user like me? I am flexible with my budget. A comfortable ride is a priority. Ok to go with either 110, 125 or 160 cc options. Also should I consider waiting for a couple of years as the 2 wheeler market is changing. Thank you in advance!! Cheers!

Yes! Very Reliable up until i experienced Power loss followed by a immediate halt on the Highway due to Failed throttle on my 450x

My friend bought a 450x a couple days ago. It's been a great ride but few software niggles exist It's showing "factory mode" dialogue overlay and its not going away and the dealership don't know how to fix it The touch response on this (maybe this particular) vehicle is bad to say the least. Felt like using a decade old ATM There's a noticeable whine at around 15-25kmph, it's so unsettling, maybe it'll go away after the components break-in (or it's a feature to alert pedestrians,idk🤔) Hey, BTW we i asked the sales person on more about the vehicle and its perks over is competition, he gave a well rounded explanation, later i found a notebook lying around where they took notes. Found some of the points in them which you guys discussed in previous videos So they are listening to you guys😅

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Oh no! We hope this gets solved soon! And if you need help, do ping us. The whine is normal for Athers though. They're a bit vocal, they've always been.

I recently encountered significant challenges with electric vehicles (EVs) that have shaken my confidence in this technology. In my city, Madurai, I placed an order for the Ather 450S. The on road price was ₹1.19 lakh, but the showroom informed me of a 100 day delivery wait time. This delay meant I wouldn't be eligible for the FAME 2 subsidy, resulting in additional costs upon delivery. Due to these concerns, I cancelled the Ather order. I then bought Ola S1 X Plus, hoping for a smoother experience. However, within just 13 days of ownership, the scooter malfunctioned unexpectedly and became inoperable. Additionally, the seat became stuck and wouldn't open. To my disappointment, the service representative informed me it would take 10 days to fix these issues. These consecutive negative experiences have unfortunately eroded my trust in EVs at the moment.

Looking at the comments, it's pretty clear no one's a fan of these Subscription models. Ather please come up with a better plan. Simplify the purchase. The more complications a customer faces during a purchase, the harder it is to sell in huge numbers.

What a soothing presentation! 🤌

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

1. Is ola s1x+ worth buying for 96k ( asking because heard of heating and reliability issues ) or is it better to increase budget and get an ather 450s/450x. 2.ather 450s vs ola s1 pro gen2 Which is better to buy ?

great choice of music as always!.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Glad you think so! Thanks @chazzy499!

@ontheroad8149

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc we want to see the music team in a video!

Hi !! TOTALL unrelated question could you please mention the name of the bg song in this vid ? Its an absolute banger !!

Sir I believe ,Few Improvement Required for Ather Scooter are following 1) Range : 125 -135Km per Charge would have been good . 2) The subscription model is very Confusing . 3) Broad Seat would have been better . 4) Battery Warranty, Competition gives 8Yr .

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your perspective Deepak!

Always quality information. is it possible to make video on Honda CB 350RS? I have taken test drive of both. But waiting for your video.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Hey @yogeshnikam8064! The last time we rode the CB350, we came to the conclusion that it's not a bike worth buying and recommending. Nothing has changed on the bike since then. We've been chasing Honda for ~9 months at this point for a test bike... nothing so far.

Very very nice discussion I always respects and like your true thoughts thanks sir really

Went to the showroom today to test drive it and order it. The rep told me 450S stopped production last month 😅 and no stock available. Wondering if it's due to fame 2 subsidy or if they're discontinuing this model.

Now that the Aprilia 457 have started to show up in showrooms for test rides in Mumbai, I hope to see a Motorinc View on that motorcycle the way it was magical on the Duke 390 gen 3. Still the best summary of what Duke 390 is in its new Avatar ❤.

Loved the video. Can you do one on Ather rizta !

@motorinc

Ай бұрын

Request noted AP!

I got the 450S for 1 lakh 38 thousand including the pro pack. I have travelled 3000 kms in 50 days and saved 7000 rupees in petrol already. I love the smoothness and acceleration, and most importantly the low centre of gravity of the scooter.

Subscription model - Every automobile company now wants to be an internet company. Subscription is fine until the core functionality is not brought in. Future is all about convenience and expenses for that

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Spot on! Thanks Vignesh!

This is not related to the Aether, but what are your thoughts on replaceable batteries, like in Vida? I want to own a scooter for more than 5 years, or even 10 years if it works just as good. No reason to replace something if it works well. That's currently not an option with most electric 2 wheelers since you can't replace the batteries. I feel like our world is moving towards a once-use throw away kind of thing, like we do with toys. I guess that's just what happens when we are affluent. But still, I hope for a good electric 2 wheeler with a replaceable battery... _and without subscriptions_

Hi i recently bought ather 450s but i don't know how to enable indicator sound so plz if anyone can help me out thank you

Does any have any idea about Ather's Service Subscription plans? Last I checked they said they will be bringing it out again. As someone who has bought the Ather 450x recently this has been a concern.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Hey @jathinreddy460! We're hoping for announcements on April 6 clarifying things when Ather has their community day.

How much of a practical range can we expect on a weekend joyride in the twisties for the ather 450x?

@motorinc

Ай бұрын

If you're riding fast? 55-60km at best.

Using the Ather 450x Series 1 for the past 2 and half years, with similar battery pack as the 450s i.e 2.9kwh. 40500 km done and i m getting around 90 kms per charge that too in sports mode i.e city & highway rides, my everyday commuteis around 50 kms. No major issues till now as far as battery motor is concerned, but my both the callipers failed at 30k kms and ather service centre does not have the refurbishment kit for them. they said full calipers need replacement costing around 2.5 k each. overall very happy with the service as i have the service pack till june this year, but my friends are complaining of very steep service and parts prices. Other day my collegue replaced a horn switch on his 450x and it cost him 500 rupees, thats exorbitant..... hopefully subscription willbe back till my gets over......

In 450s the indication of sound and reverse sound is not working? Does anyone know how to fix it? I have also rebooted.

@ashutoshmahapatra537

Ай бұрын

Yup same, it looks like they have removed buzzer thats responsible for that.

Why you guys didnt make review on honda cb350 , eagerly waiting ..pls make it

Hello, My father 53 years old and mother 50 years old for the first decided to switch to a scooter current options I am considering are ather 450s, ather rizta and Suzuki avenis budget is around 1.8 lakhs comfort and reliability are key and can wait for a few months but we do not have a ather dealership in our town there is one around 30 kms from our town so what do you suggest?

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Why don’t you ping us after the Rizta is out (that’s May for media previews)? We’re sure we can help solve this. Meantime, why suggest you take your dad and mum and get test rides on the Avenis and 450S?

@loseweightusingketo

2 ай бұрын

​@@motorincwas going to suggest the same.

review 450s without pro pack...i want to know the details of it cause ather dont give any description about what pro pack dont provides and without pro pack the scooter work on which mode and battery status !

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Hey @saikatCANsing! We did get a proper test ride on it - you’ll see a short soon. It works as a product. We didn’t miss the features too much and it works more or less like a current ICE scooter in airplane mode. We wish the charge remaining indication was more helpful - it’s just a “fuel gauge” where the graph slowly counts down. But that aside we did enjoy the ride and it’s well worth considering.

I come across "Pro pack & Pro pack insurance" for 450X HR I pay ₹8560 for Comprehensive insurance (external damages) for my vehicle. The Pro pack is optional and costs ₹23,078. When purchasing the Pro pack for ₹23,078, you are offered "Dash board features, connectivity, and extra warranty for 2 years plus 30k km." To get all these features, I'm paying ₹23,078 for Pro pack and above this "If I face any software issue you would rather assist me with software update or simple restart method to get started" where do I need "Pro pack insurance for ₹1146" where your responsibility is solely for software issues (by update)? Customer says: Pro Pack Insurance is an add-on that specifically covers software issues of the vehicle, providing comprehensive protection. "Pro pack insurance", sounds groundless or not?

We need a similar video about the Ather 450 Apex waiting ........

I want to buy a bike for daily commute to office, around 40kms in Bangalore traffic, I'm 6'3 and with the budget of ~ 2 - 2.5L(including seconds). please suggest me some good bike. my priorities are : Good braking Ergonomic for my chronic back Nimble for slow moving traffic

Was waiting for this since a long time, planning to buy ather 450s this Diwali, I am willing to pay more and get less range compared to ola, just beacuse I don't want compromise in the quality and safety as my wife is going to learn riding on this. It is going to be the only 2 wheeler in our family and I want a ride which I can enjoy too, so Ather 450s it is. Can't spend more for x due to budget concern.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your perspective Ashutosh! Ather will announce updates on April 6... do look out for that too!

Hey Since fame 2 ending in march end Hero veda plus give 19k extra less , so effective price is 1.05 lakh onroad if buy from Flipkart.. my daily journey around 30km office... is it good to invest

@ankithhebbar7542

2 ай бұрын

absolutely! I don't own a vida but I rented one for a month. Make sure you have a service center close by. Also, one problem that I saw was that the throttle was tight.. took extra effort to twist. If throttle needs extra effort for long duration of time, it can be a problem for wrists over time. This could be purely a mechanical issue and perhaps only with my model. Check in a showroom nearby if you like the throttle. Also, don't expect performance like ather. vida is very mild mannered. it is keyless btw..

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Hey Abir! Unfortunately, we haven't had a Vida on test at all, and not for the lack of asking. So we can't tell you whether this electric scooter is worth investing in or not. For a 30km run to office, we'd think the Ather 450S would work though - if it is available where you are.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Good points, Ankith! Not sure about the throttle. We did ride the Vida very briefly at the Hero R&D centre a long time ago and the throttle felt normal.

@abirpramanik

2 ай бұрын

@@ankithhebbar7542 thanks.. yeh whol howrah distributor Showroom near my house with in 1km .. that's why .. I use as daily base so no need super performance..

@abirpramanik

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc no ather is not available near my house it ola and Veda

I want to buy for my wife currently riding Activa. Shall I wait for Ather Rizta or go for 450s. Thanks in advance.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Please do wait for the Rizta - details should be out April 6

just bought one few weeks back loving it !

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Congratulations!!

Please suggest a grippy front tyre for Apache 160 2V I've few options : MRF Zapper FS, Ceat Secura Zoom, TVS Eurogrip Remora. The tyre size 90/90-17

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

The Remora is a good option, the Zapper would be a good second option @akshatmishra3523

@akshatmishra3523

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc Currently rear one is in good condition But what about Apollo Alpha S1 110/80-17??

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Apollos are generally very good. We have not tested the S1 though. We would warn against mixing and matching tyre brands. The balance of the bike will change, you cannot predict whether it will be for the better or not though

I truly feel like Ather has managed to make an EXCEPTIONAL scooter right here. I recently sat pillion on my friends new 450X and immediately i was blown away by the ride comfort. The ather, it just DELETES speed bumps,ignores potholesand is reasonably stable on hard acceleration. And the seat ! ICE scootera usually have an inclined seat where the pillion tends to slide forward on hard braking and going over potholes and stuff. But the seat on the ather is wide, flat and keeps you at place while still being spacious.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Agreed! The thing is that this comfort level only happens when you sit with pillion. There’s room to make the sole rider experience quite a bit more comfortable.

@rajatdusa950

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc ohhh il have to beg to my friend for a test ride now 😂😅

@shankarramanathan9759

2 ай бұрын

I do not like this seating, not planted for city rides with speed breaker and potholes. Feel like applying Fevicol on my butt 😂. Certainly one thing that needs to be improved on athers product line

Honda NX500/CB350 First impressions coming or not ?

Yo I'm fourth let's go. Can't wait to watch my favourite automotive channel.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much @ARYEHTONAMIX!

It is a rebadging of 450X gen 2 without the touchscreen and warp mode and no Bluetooth if there's no pro mode.

We would love to see another detailed video on biker accessories(helmets, gloves, jacket, shoes).

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

We’re working on this! Stay tuned!

Would like to know if the Access 125 will be fun to ride or not as compared to these electric scooters. There's going to be a scooter purchase at our home after selling our 13 yr old Activa. And my father is against electric scooters 😂. So we've decided for an Access 125. Will it be a good purchase?

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Yes! The Access is the most fun (and a great) family scooter right from the start! Go for it, Doc!

@dr.ranadhishrajan2797

2 ай бұрын

​@@motorincohkay🎉

All things are okay only issue is charging time should be 3 to 4 hour We should have considered it

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Correct. As we're using these EVs more and more though, we realise that in actual use, once an EV takes more than 2-3 hours to charge, the actual time doesn't matter because you end up plugging it in the night and not doing anything with it until morning though.

I have a 450x gen 3.1 and I haven’t seen range drop more than 10 to 12km in the hottest summer days of Rajasthan while going flat out top speed for most of the ride.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Yes. I’m extreme heat as the battery tries to protect itself, it will limit things temporarily

@The_Garage_Musician

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc in my case it never dropped performance or showed overheating signs. It just goes.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Great! The range drop is a sign of protection mechanisms kicking in though

@The_Garage_Musician

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc oh. I didn’t knew that. Thanks for letting me know.

Propack gives you riding modes inc regen and extra 2 years of battery warranty for a total of 5 years. What happens after 5 years? Subscription makes it sound like a Jio monthly plan.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

After 5 years - as it is with _all warranties_ @MrSrijit - you pay for whatever needs to be fixed or replaced.

@MrSrijit

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc Well, then where is the subscription coming in? The dealer in my town says that they dont have subscriptions but only the propacks

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

We don't know but let's see what Ather announces on April 6 -- they have an event coming

@MrSrijit

Ай бұрын

@@motorinc Got my Ather 450s in April. It came with a felt bag for the portable charger. Dealer in Trivandrum, Kerala

Shumi, Can we get a R15 v4 vs Honda CBR150R video?

Left everything and came back again 😎🔥

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Baap re. This is becoming a regular feature no? 😂

@PharaohVj

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc hehehe 🤭 wt can I do😂🤣 I'm not addicted to drugs but I'm addicted to Mr Shumi reviews and perspectives on Motorcycles ✨

Just bought it a month ago and could'nt be happier. Ya the subscription plans are confusing and what not, but still its a very fun scooter for my daily commute to my college. And the sport mode on the highway is just 🔥🔥 Eagerly waiting for the Community day 2024 ! Love ur videos as always. ❤

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Congratulations @darklordgaming429! Glad you are enjoying your riding!

Please make a video about Ola EV after sale service hassles. Thank you!

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Hey Hemanth, we aren’t going to. It’s just too much to tackle considering they don’t have a network.

Few days ago, news came that King has Relented!!( Honda's Electric scooter launch) But immediately, came the news, that the new date of launch is June( And they had already informed, that launch may be in second quarter!!) I bought an Activa instead!! ( My need was for home errands!!)🎉

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for letting us know Hemant! Congratulations!!

Hope they correct all the little things in the upcoming rizta

I bought the 450s for 1.39k its totally worth it

I wanted to replace my 15 years ICE scooter hence wanted to buy EV, no commute as such but daily distance may be around 10KM max, I live in a tire 2/3 city having 10KM radius. In my city most selling is TVS iQube and then OLA. TVS had very bad Regen experience and also it costed around 1.5 L. OLA feels toyish, OLA showroom exp was horrible. Took rides of all 3, Ather s/x was way better than OLA and TVS. I choose Ather S over X 1. Range - 90 vs 110 Km, my daily ride may be 10 max. 20 kms is hardly any difference for me. 2. Price - S costed me 1.3 with all the packages, X was around 1.6 to 1.7 3. Dashboard - My kid is 4 so I did NOT want touchscreen, also you don’t need to use Google maps in a small city like ours 4. Battery size - I wanted small battery size which is giving more range ( efficiency) , in case if I need to change battery after 5 years. OLA and TVS has bigger batteries with same range. TVS has 3.4 whereas Ather S has 2.7. 5. Ride - I did not feel any difference in S and X, I will check now again since you mentioned this. 6. Warp Mode - This did not have that much weightage while choosing.

We Really Need A Indepth Of The River Indie Cuz Just Cancelled 450 For That "Pro Subscription" Thing🙂👍🏻

I feel scooters generally tend to stay for long periods of time without requiring much maintenance whatsoever. And ev's having a battery replacement cost in 5 figures beats the purpose. While if we talk about petrol cost vs EV, the premium which currently manufacturers are charing, it's practically the same.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Good points Jeet! You’re right!

Another subscription we forgot to talk about is the subscription to a good orthopaedic doctor, cz you'll visit him often after buying this piece of 😅

Never been a ev person and don't think it will change anytime soon....

@motorinc

15 күн бұрын

♥️

The actual top speed verified by gps is 80 but it displays 90. I guess when you have screen and software you can display anything

I want to buy Ather because I like electric and electric is future no matter how much media or anything tells you otherwise or how much brain washed you’re. The ride on Ather was very good. That’s how it should be. Instant throttle response. Remove all the ICE and transmission lag. It was Smooth. No Vibrations. I may use it less than 100km a week. ICE makes more sense for my requirement but still..

Can we talk about are EV's really clean; in the upcoming episodes!

It's a great product but I won't put my money in it just yet coz I feel the obselecence curve is hit way too early. I keep my vehicles like 7-8 years so range drop is a 'fear' I am not willing to take.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your perspective Jubin!

Sir please do a detailed review of the Yezdi Roadster 2024 version

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Request noted!

@bishakhajewels102

2 ай бұрын

Love from Assam sir ❤️❤️

Please review Ola s1 air and s1x+ scooters as well. They are the most affordable options in the market. Would appreciate your perspective. Thanks

@evthink

2 ай бұрын

I don't think they will. They hate those scooters and come off as snobs when they tried to review S1 Pro. So they just ignore them for now except the minor jabs

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

No plan to review Ola scooters, @koushikvss7638. We've tested a series of them over the years and they never work well enough for us to recommend them.

@koushikvss7638

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc hi, I understand that but they've recently updated their models with the Gen 2 platform, I don't know if you've looked into them but if you have then I appreciate your response. Thanks!

we want to buy an electric scooter for my mom, already have activa 5G at home, is the Ola S1x 3watt, a value for money scooter? or any better scooter we can go for?

@sinzz26o7

2 ай бұрын

my friend I will strongly advise you to stay away from ola, especially if it is for parents. Ola scooter till date do not give a good reliable vibe to me. So, I would suggest either ather or hero vida (i agree the sytling is not great but at least they would be much more reliable than ola)

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

We don’t recommend Ola products at all. Every scooter on sale is a better bet.

@makeyourlifeeasy9619

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc can you suggest a particular model in the budget? we don't care about display, connectivity, music system in a scooter, or any type of BS feature. just an electric vehicle to ride in the city

@makeyourlifeeasy9619

2 ай бұрын

@@sinzz26o7 People say ola is bad on the internet but on the road most of the E vehicles are Ola.

@makeyourlifeeasy9619

2 ай бұрын

@@sinzz26o7 Ok I got it, it's just like Chinese phones, which are superior only on spec sheets.

In the USA insurance companies are able to extract vehicle ride info directly from the EV and guess what Premiums just magically went up. Don't support EVs or the subscription model.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

That's going to happen to all vehicles in time, Jim. Insurance guys love data and the ways to collect evermore data are growing. It does help them fine-tune premiums and sometimes that does suck too. But we don't think there's a way you avoid that reality, no matter what's under the hood.

@JimBob-ly6er

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc But it's gonna be difficult on the old school ICE vehicles but effortless on newer EV's.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Just a matter of time Jim before ICEs get as connected as the EVs. Just see the Euro5+ norms coming next year. They’re not connected yet but tracking’s going to start.

Not worried about subscription model because Indian engineers, tuners, technicians and programmers are the best in the world and will be able to pull off something like they did with playstations.

Shumi has no shadow. Hating this change in aesthetic.

I am looking for some known good brands slow speed electric scooter for my dad (senior Citizen)

should i go with pro pack of ather 450s by paying 13k extra?

@motorinc

26 күн бұрын

You don't get most, if not all, of the intelligent features if you don't get the Pro Pack so if you can afford to, consider getting it.

Ather delaying 450s delivery, i have booked a month before and no update on my order yet.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Let’s see if other Ather prospective owners say the same too! We do hope you get your delivery soon @prabagarann7767!

put alloys on hunter base model white, amazing 🖌️

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

How we wish YT would let you post a picture!

before I watch the whole video i tell you buying 450S was a mistake , because I miss warp mode . it gives 70km in sports mode (you actually get only 60km even with regen on) and no quick charging is killing me.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your perspective Amit!

Shumi and team please release some retro bike reviews 😊

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean by retro bike reviews @JayPrakash-th4rd?

@JayPrakash-th4rd

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc Bike from 70s , 80s ,90s Disscussing their evolution and refinement .For example CBR 250 RR (1990) , Legendary Honda CBX (1978)

@harsh.macbeth

2 ай бұрын

FortNine has loads of these videos. But it will be great to see our old indian bikes being covered! Motorinc please do it!! Im praying

@JayPrakash-th4rd

2 ай бұрын

@@harsh.macbethHave seen them all brother , just want Shumi's Pov on those !

Man i bought 450x just yesterday Was it a good decision?😅

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/qamMp5h6nZO4esY.htmlfeature=shared Congratulations!!

@Drstrange12345

2 ай бұрын

Yes...450x is better...

can u do a video on vida v1 pro

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

We can certainly try. Hero's not given out test bikes right from the time that the bike first came out though @raynersavioprazeres7621

Please do a similar review for vespa

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Request noted!

It's a premium little toy. I don't want to worry about and care much about my scooter all the time. Or it's charging t&c, or leaving it where i want. These so called conneted scooters are targeting only the enthusiasts, where is the true activa/access replacement?

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

If you don't wan to care, or worry about charging, you should continue to look at ICEs, @ketankadam5669. Electric scooters aren't at a place where you can ride them around as casually as you would an ICE.

@ketankadam5669

2 ай бұрын

@@motorinc that's what I did and will do till I can. Enjoy the petrol while it lasts.

If its expensive looks weird and people are buying them. Then it's a good product.

The very idea of bringing premium features like touch screen, connected mode, navigation etc., etc., is to give a premium stature to the bike and position it above even the high end ICE bikes. In this process, these EV manufacturers make good money. In reality, these bikes are not worth even 70% of present prices. For e.g the battery prices have dropped from $180/Kwh to $130/Kwh in the past 3 years. This is the reason why government is pruning the subsidy. That is the reason why EV makers are able to cut prices, in spite of lesser subsidy. In future, the battery prices are likely to drop further and may reach $60/Kwh by 2029.This means the prices of EV bikes may drop further by 30%. Also the replacement cost of batteries will be considerably lesser in future. All EV makers know that there will be hectic competition by that time and hence their margins get thinnervous and thinner. So all EV makers are trying to make hay when the sunshines, and try to get maximum profits at the earliest.

Can you do review on new ns 200

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Waiting for test bikes Swapnil!

Please review the new hero xtream 125 r

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

In the works, Chandan!

@motorinc Waait for the Rizta or buy a tvs iqube? Suggest please

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

The details on the Rizta are to be out April 6. It's certainly worth waiting the 12-odd days, Doc

@shankarramanathan9759

2 ай бұрын

Frankly I do not see the value in Rizta for the asking price.. I agree with the assessment.. If you like the warp mode go for 450x or 450s fits right in for city commute

we dont have many roads in india to ride high performance bikes, schumi 🖌️

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Not true at all. First, the only place to extract full performance is the racetrack. If you’re serious, making the effort to go to a track is always worth it. Second, the India has few roads is a myth. We have some of the best, in fact.

In city like mumbai there is only 1 experience center of Ather , all its EC and service center are closed. There is something big cooking which doesn’t sound good from Ather . Hence no available to experience it and service it how are the customers gonna look forward for this.. it’s a big question!! Have also checked with their customer support but they don’t have any information on this ..😅😂

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

We shall see what Ather plans to do next - they have announcements coming April 6, @KaushikManani

Lmao I love the jab at Ola 😬👌

Sir have an premium ev, but trust me, they are not like activas, +u can't rely on spares and service is a hit n miss big time

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Oh? Please do explain in detail @saviocorrea6159?

Still not convinced but its getting real close

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

💯

So many variables with EV, will stick with my Activa125 till the confusion gets cleared.

@motorinc

2 ай бұрын

Yes for some people that’s the right way forward for sure! ❤️