Team EV, Team ICE or both?

@hemant3472

Ай бұрын

Two strokes ❤

@chiragdeeppatil8889

Ай бұрын

Team ICE

@samarbirua8740

Ай бұрын

Team ICE Once EVs truly become green and clean and infrastructure is sufficient, will think about EVs 😂

@sumitmohapatra359

Ай бұрын

Team EV for scooter and Team ICE for four wheelers

@abhishekparmar7587

Ай бұрын

Team ICE

This is the type of podcast/content/awareness we need more and more.

30:29 Nahi samajh aa raha tha bas….such a simple outlook! What a casual way of accepting failure. Appreciate it

Ather should focus on expanding their showrooms to Gujarat and North as I seen, other EVs are coming in our city and people choose first come first serve, By the way Podcast is great as usual. Kudos to both of you.

18:50 - agr price problem nahi hai to OLA ki sales Ather se jada kyo ho rhi hai North me... Ather is too expensive for middle class & entry level market

@watchmovies5447

Ай бұрын

Because ather is not working on outlets and all in north ,ola is opening stores in even small towns , you can test ride and see it and check it

@udhavgarg3459

Ай бұрын

There is undeniably a quality difference in ola and ather.....Ather has proven to be a premium brand

@antrixvarma

Ай бұрын

Bhai thoda bht hi price difference hai. I think issue ye h ki Ather abhi north taraf itna dhyan de hi nhi raha hai. Bangalore me you will get to see more Ather then Ola

@SambitPattnaikOfficial

Ай бұрын

Bhai Xiaomi sale is higher than Apple in India He is telling and Want to Sell Ather as Aspirations not Value for money .. Ye samajh lo

@AvinashHeral

Ай бұрын

OLA has got incentive under PLI scheme for their scooter. Tarun has talked about this before.

one of the most important questions the media is not asking is what about right to repair situation will be, will they allow 3rd party co to repair? will they provide repair syntax? and connected tech also has an evil side, the subs, remote monitoring by the co, serial no lock already we are seeing that co hates when customers own something for a lifetime (like they revoke perpetual license of somethings )

@akshatkhedekar8561

Ай бұрын

Bhai ye log same hardware ko alag product me software se limitations laga dete hai , ye thori provide karenge ye sab inke liye sab business point of view se inke thoughts change hote rehte hai

@neelj5155

Ай бұрын

Govt inki g phad denge..... Govt nai SC phat degi.. Likk ke Rakho..

@gurupramodashetty452

Ай бұрын

​@@akshatkhedekar8561woh to sahi kaha apne lekin chance bhi nahi hai ki yeh alog itna jaldi right to repair de de kyunki market choti hai aur repair karne ke knowledge hone wale bhi bahit kam log hai tho wo tho question tab hoga jab EV ka sales aur badega

@akshatkhedekar8561

Ай бұрын

@@gurupramodashetty452 ha ye bhi sahi hai

So nice to hear Patna in this video. Love from Bihar.

Bande me hai dum. Delighted to hear from two favourites from jaipur. I'm a delhi guy, have a actica for 12 years and access for 7 years. Went for ascooter hunt last week for sister. Wanted a low seated scooter. Test ride taken for fascino, dio and ather. Fascino and dio were majorly underwhelming compare dto my access. The sales reps were not that enthusiastic as well. But ather, it's something else. The warp mode is ballistic. The sport mode of 450s was as good as my access. 139000 on road with 15k subsity. 125k for 450s looks almost good. The sales rep were a delight to talk with. If only I can get my hands on an offer/subsidy which brings the price down further, it's a done deal for me. Also Tarun seems a real bright chap. His gujrati business accument and concepts are clear. Is ghode pe paisa jaroor lagayega apun.

Love how comfortable he is with you guys

What happens when big company's like honda starts to make similar electric scooter, then people will choose established companies instead of startups

@sahastradhara

Ай бұрын

Honda is struggling to compete in EV againt tesla byd tata etc They dont have reliable evs and by the time they develop one,market will be saturated

@harmanwalia2598

Ай бұрын

They are not struggling to make evs.....it's just that they dont want to make evs and that strategy is starting to pay of for them

@yogeshpilankar

Ай бұрын

iCube case study

@gkunzru062009

Ай бұрын

My Ather 450xHR is just 1month old.I noticed panel gaps under the handle bar panel, chipped/rough edges and unfinished mirrors. Even the panels next to headlights have panel gaps.These issues are not there in previous generation vehicles.Even SC agreed these are manufacturing defects.SC team tried to adjust panel gaps but unsuccessful. Panel gaps increase with time After spending 1.8lakhs i get this type of fit and finish. Really unhappy

@shas312

Ай бұрын

Then Iqube must sell more than any EV as per you. But its not. Ola is the leader.

Absolutely amazing podcast guyz, both of you asked relevant questions and tarun spoke really well and he is such an intelligent guy, no wonders Ather has got customer satisfaction.

I learnt new things. Kudos! Please have one with tata like u had with maruti!

Clear, no bakwas content. Love your videos and your work and especially your unwavering commitment 😊

He completely ignore battery change question

@sahastradhara

Ай бұрын

Battery acche products mein nahi chamge karni padti mere bhai, lakh kilometer ke upar jaoge tab kaho jaroorat padti hai. thats a non issue, thats why he ignored it

@MandeepThukral

Ай бұрын

52:45 pe suno

@Saurabh.P

Ай бұрын

He did answer

@XYZ-pn2dm

Ай бұрын

@sahastradhara My platina 110 has done 4 lakh kms. Can your EV do that on single battery 😂😂😂

@99BHUVNESHJAIN

Ай бұрын

@@XYZ-pn2dm sir , then it makes even more sense because of huge savings advantage by cost/km.

One correction I'd like to point out at 4:47 is that ICEs don't work on carnot cycle. Carnot is the most ideal a thermodynamic cycle can get. Petrol based ICEs work on Otto Cycle while diesel based ICEs work on Diesel Cycle.

Its not the just the awareness but your availability as well, there are not a lot of showrooms of ather in northen states which is why they aren't getting any good response from that section of our country

i think what ather needs is a scooter with 3 kwh 4kwh max speed 80kmph no maps and all simple clean dashboard with a semi digital instrument cluster which supports ather grid and decent speed of charging at 1lakh near about on road price on all states

@arunp2885

29 күн бұрын

Rizta base model

One big reason why E scooters are not selling in the north is because of their purchasing cost. Another reason is charging and security.

16:25 As a Ex - Ather owner i agree , Main bhi Ather ko follow karra tha 2 saal se or Khush Khushi hua jab Finally Hamne li tab

I bought 1st EV Scooter in 2006 that too in Kolhapur. It was amazing bike minus Service Center. It use to run on Dry Cell battery, 80 Kms Range and 55-60 Km/h speed with pillion.

This man,Tarun Mehta !! You are at the top of your game man, carry on the legacy that you have build...

Okay..one of the context question.... Which brand is that table over which you guys are having this conversation? It looks like its height can be adjusted electronically. I want the same table for my office too. The one that I have shortlisted costs exorbitantly high. So I was looking for the cheaper options. Is that table under a lakh?

i own both activa and ola but have not ridden much of activa since buying the ola.No going back to ice after riding an ev for a few months.Will replace my activa with rizta.

@Adityakumar-mt7lu

Ай бұрын

what's your avg. odo for a year vaise ?

@lgsamsung1

Ай бұрын

@@Adityakumar-mt7lu 3-3.5k kms

@abhimanyusahoo2741

Ай бұрын

its good till OLA working fine once it showing issue i sure u will back to your activa like me. As the services are very poor. Now whoever asking me i suggest them go for petrol one

@lgsamsung1

Ай бұрын

@@abhimanyusahoo2741 why petrol if one is not satisfied with ola then go for ather or chetak.I have had many problems with my activa.

@Adityakumar-mt7lu

Ай бұрын

@@lgsamsung1 that's plausible but to anyone with less that 2k clicks should consider ice instead of ev for sure

Indeed Episode 👍

One thing is clear : He is very confident and has contiguous energy. I mean you feel assured even for the ecosystem emerged in india for electric two wheelers. He is a visionary for sure 👍🏻👏🏻

@jenilsoni9519

2 күн бұрын

The reason I love this brand over others is because they have a clear vision. And a brand that has the right vision will never produce wrong products unlike ola which seems to push half baked products just to increase sales figures.

@siddharthlachhwani1

2 күн бұрын

@@jenilsoni9519 well put👍🏻

Great Podcast. A Big Thanks. 🙏🙏🙏

@ICN

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

boys...this was great ...keep it up

@ICN

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

The worst thing about this video is that it ends 😤

@aparichit_2.0

2 күн бұрын

Sahi me bhai

Even in the comment section, people are so negative in terms of the reception of EV as a solution. Aur ye woi log hain jinhone kabhi bhi EV na own kia hai na test drive li hai. People need to come out of their bubble and see for themselves that the EV space is not in nascent stage right now. It has significantly matured in last 2-3 years.

@XYZ-pn2dm

Ай бұрын

Ev is costly. Ev has low range. No skilled 3rd party to repair for cheap. Ev's are highly explosive compared to ICE. Evs are very unreliable. EVs have high carbon footprint hence bad for environment. Evs are scam.

@judgementholder

Ай бұрын

Dude you really need to up your game. I won't type too much, just humbly suggest you to read/ watch about the carbon emissions and inhumane aspects of extraction of Lithium and Cobalt... It's 60% more polluting than an ICE

@RoodeMenon

Ай бұрын

@@judgementholder People only care about the "cost savings" part.

@shresthsonkar9207

29 күн бұрын

They are indirectly proving his point about people falling prey to misinformation and lack of awareness assets.atherenergy.com/Ather_ICCT_Emissions_Report.pdf

Awareness Awareness Awareness. Tackling mis-information & FUD(Fear, Uncertainty, Disruption) from social media is the biggest stumbling block towards electrification and de-carbonization. The goal of Net zero can only and only be achieved through BEV.

Thank you for this detailed podcast ..........

@ICN

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Mr.Tarun is far more mature. I am definitely putting Rizta as my first option before buying any E Scooter. Also this will be my first E vehicle in family. Great podcast. Just fix a day on a big ground with customers and demo all functions features there. Use well known customers as volunteers.

When do we get the delivery of rizta

Amazing.. phenomenal podcast.. should do more such eye opener series 🤝🏻💫

Agar Product 95% india mai banta hai,🔥🔥to Gov ko two wheeler EVs pe Taxes 0% kar dena chahiye...

Yar main isko headphones me sun raha tha (without watching video) and i couldn't differentiate between Gagan and Tarun's voice. So similar. Close ur eyes and feel

@human_boulder

Ай бұрын

Get better headphones. They are not at all similar lol.

@Johntreff

Ай бұрын

@@human_boulder get better ears or get them cleaned man , I ve airpods so fckoff

A quality podcast. Great insights!

this video is amazing, what a vision of Tarun ,hats off

Lovely conversation 🙂

धन्यवाद भाई लोग 🎉

What an interview and what thought process ?... will want to try out ather for sake of his thoughts and research..

Hi, I'm from North and I want to buy ather Rizta but I think I have to go for TVS only because the nearest Ather service center is approx 145kms away. 😅

Another nice cartalaap conversation session, nice to know the in and out thinking of an electric vehicle entrepreneur

As Tarun sir mentioned about the problem in Mumbai, being a mumbaikar, yes in Apartments doing that wiring costs a lot for charging. Need something for that. Also, have been asking since long, more showrooms and service centers in Mumbai..

PlugInIndia also had made an dedicated video on it Fossil fuel vs EV . People can watch that to get there doubt clear .

My Ather 450xHR is just 1month old.I noticed panel gaps under the handle bar panel, chipped/rough edges and unfinished mirrors. Even the panels next to headlights have panel gaps.These issues are not there in previous generation vehicles.Even SC agreed these are manufacturing defects.SC team tried to adjust panel gaps but unsuccessful. Panel gaps increase with time After spending 1.8lakhs i get this type of fit and finish. Really unhappy

Please think of present

Its always worth listening Tarun ji , his pace , knowledge & dedication it's truly amazing Thanks ICN studio for hosting him

You both are among most genuine auto guide creators presently, thanks for creating such genuine podcast

this man is like lion of the jungle, very different POV from any other brands very well know how to tackle indian consumer in term of EV-shift very intelligent GUY. Whtevr will be the car EV market in future but thiss man will win the 2-wheeler market and will make drastic shift in his jungle

After 1 year Im seeing the two OGs together in a podcast... Plz do more 😊😊& with a bit of trash talk on cars, it makes it funny

This video Convinced me to buy an Electric Scooter. Will look into it, especially Ether, if it is available in my area (Small town in West Bengal ).

30:00 - Miniatures, Merchandise, and Toys are a good option for brand building and additional revenue. Ather can license these products to quality vendors for manufacturing.

Awesome interview 👍🏽👍🏽

Congrats on your new punch.ev, GC..... 🎉🎉

One simple question, why does Ather doesn't give the convenience of removable batteries like Vida?

price is the real problem for a middle class family ( from west bengal) . Base model ka on road price 1,24,00L too high .

Tarun ji plz address range anxiety barrier and pick up of ather compared to sluggish tvs I cube as well

Tarun mehta sir need to take some more session in North side . No need of Ad his podcast or short clip can make difference in View making . Proudly using EV from past 4 yrs and will switch to Car also in coming years . Till my car grow Older

I think ev ka sirf ek fayda hai, running cost kum hai but agar pricing aur resale ko consider kare to vo bhi balance out ho jayega isliye filhal to ice hi better hai, EVs me kuch bhi easy nahi hai aapko roj charging par lagane ka hassel rakhna padega, charging infra bhi nahi hai, price bhi jyada hai resale bhi zero hai, reliability bhi nahi hai to aise me ice hi sabse badhiya option hai

Very clearly understood the concept of EV after this podcast #Good luck #ATHER

At 13.00 sale of activa over ev in terms of rickshw is tht they dont have much range issue as they run and charge and rest while a home person not sure when all of sudden the work will come for the scootor

Team Both!

Just hyped

90 percent three wheeler currently running lead acid battery. Because lead acid battery are chip and old scrap battery value almost 25percent of new battery. Currently 3wheller lead acid battery change cost 30000 and life almost 2.5years

Market will maintain a ratio....

33:00, iQube is already considered as the family scooter, also Ola.

Incredible podcast 😊

@ICN

Ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

Is there any practical charging solution for those who do not have a covered parking space ? For example, in Mumbai we have at lease four months of heavy rains and in many housing societies two wheelers are parked in an open space. In that case what can help a person who is interested in buying an electric scooter ?

@rohanch07

Ай бұрын

But why live in Mumbai? You live only once, find a decent place to live.

When the Rizta Ride Riviews are happening?

Very good discussion. I think when we launch a new product..always it is expected atleast all good points available as minimum plus something extra new we get. so, for a scooter ,good seat comfort, ride quality, storage and mileage is a must and considered as a basic. on top of that if someone gives more features it can become successful..but at the same time if any of the minimum feature is missing then it becomes a deal breaker..

Hi Mr. Mehta If you could make the scooter which can be pushed to charging stations less like by more regen and also by giving drums which will improve regen and avoid changing discs for every 6k kms to 10k kms will be cost effective even though your scooters cost 1.70k ex show room I never mind, please do these two things which I mentioned rest of the things are good in your Ather scooters

Waste battery ka kya hoga?

existing Family EV scooters with usability wise (storage space, seating space, range, build), in my view River Indie, tvs iqube, Ather ritza are good. I own River Indie.. seating and storage space better than other models, it's my personal opinion. Every scooter has it's own pros and cos. Visit showroom irrespective of any scooter, check the product and take a test drive.. opt for the 1 which suits your requirement.

Why video cut around 13:45?

North ki sirf ek problem hai ki koi bhi ev company fast charging nhi deti. Sare fast charging station ya toh metro city mai hai ya south mai.

@Saurabh.P

Ай бұрын

That is not a reason for low adoption in EV in the north. Most of the people charge at home.

Campaign can be ," Pride of the nation"

@snjkmr055

11 күн бұрын

❤

🛵 scooters EV hi hone chahiye 5 -7 saal main😐😐,bas Shauk mai Bike 🏍️ bikni chahiye..., Public ka Petrol mehenga hai ki natak hi band ho jayega

The cost is More.Where do you get Power to Charge.The E three wheeler s all local made.All are assembled.Good.

I started doing job around 9 years back. For 7 years i never bought a bike. But during COVID time, I realised that I needed a 2 wheeler. So i bought an electric scooty. I used it for almost an year. I took it on long rides. I had ridden it in city conditions. From my experience no1 - I learnt the reason why do people buy petrol vehicles. 😂 no2 - I'm not that poor.., that I cannot even manage to buy fuel on a monthly basis. 😅 After this enlightenment Now I bought a 400 cc bike.

Which brand they are talking about. Which messed up in north

There is no doubt that Ather is doing well in 2 Wheeler EV segment but, the word premium hurts a lot, because Mass customer are give way more volume then the premium customers. So I feel that if Ather can do a quality product for the Mass at the price of Activa ..............then the target of EV market share of 2030, they will achieve it as early as possible.......

nice and informative pc

@ICN

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it

Tarun sir answer on green energy is answer to Gagan concern which he raised in another video on EV that electricity used by coal as peoduct is not green by EV . And one lame excuse of minerals used in battery are more exploiting that areas .

bhai sab khel running ka hai as you said in the recovery cost section , if running's low it should be ice all the way

Have used EV Moped for more than 2 years and for almost 22000 km, My observation: 1. EV two wheelers are definitely good. Product Differentiation based on Low and high power motor and High and low capacity battery would EV two wheeler offering more inclusive by covering all the use cases of an urban two wheeler moped. 2. EV Two wheeler aftermarket repairs and spare parts need to be encouraged as it'\s crazy costly to go with original parts. Like a simple Brake pad costs 700 Rs which is easily available at 350-400 Rs. Same thing for brake levers. In case EV, Considering complexity of Electronics involved, OEM must publish repair manuals. 3. EV Cars are for very small number of people who has monthly 2500+ km usage. Otherwise a good CNG car is more than enough, financially and environmentally.

Considering the price difference of the vehicle, resale value, battery cost, definitely electric vehicle is expensive for normal usage.

Great , i don't understand why lots of people are still buying ICE scooters , bikes I can understand, but scooters , you should research and buy electric

i guess you should also do a Bhavesh Agarwal's interview and see what's his take on EV!

Ola is giving 8 years battery warranty wheras Ather is giving only 3 years....and also this pro pack to extend warranty and enabling features really doesn't feel good.....if im not wrong we need to buy Pro pack even to enable Eco mode.....!!!

Base model price of ather is 17k more than top 125 cc activa.

@akumar448

Ай бұрын

N reliability is bullshit

Points for Tarun - You got free advice from one of the industry's finest. You definitely need to make edu-adverts 20 seconds each for advanced "SUV style" features in two wheelers. At least 6 such ads explaining one feature in under 20 seconds. Think of how short Zoo-Zoo ads worked for Vodafone. 2 features that are relevant for youth. 2 features relevant for older women - fallsafe, manually limiting speed. 2 features for older men - bigger boot for stuff, charging woes in emergency situations.

Kinda strong question for gagan.

Places like mumbai people can't charge vehicles at their apartment which leads to natural options towards ICE

Video editing thora achha karlo sir.. Jaise ke questions ka puch na likh le te?

I have ather 450 x It’s 1.5 years old And I driven it over 30,000 km But only serviced it one time😂 Is it ok or i need to service it every 6 months as ather says??

@leonardbennet9907

Ай бұрын

Yeah, you've probably voided the warranty :/

Patna is fastly adopting EV scooter. Ather should come up with Hub Motor Scooter for Rural area.

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31:00 but they skimped and cut corners, by not putting disc brakes and flat boot in rishta scooter.

Where is the link to the white paper?

@dhruv00721

Ай бұрын

It is there in the description box of the video

@shresthsonkar9207

29 күн бұрын

Here you go assets.atherenergy.com/Ather_ICCT_Emissions_Report.pdf