It's great the way you show the laptop. There's no bogus additional lighting it's On a white background and everything else it's good info and visual breakdowns of the laptops.

Fantastic review, and awesome disassembly!

Nice review. I bought one of these 1 month ago. This thing is a beast for a 16" laptop but does run hot.

@unknown_personW

8 ай бұрын

Every gaming laptops run hot

@colonelklink53

8 ай бұрын

@@unknown_personW I bought 2 heatsinks and attached them to the power supply 😁

Thank you very much for the detailed look! Do you have a side by side comparison on thermals and fan noise and potentially performance against it's bigger brother the scar 18? Still back and forth between the potential performance/noise improvement of the 18 and the LED Display of the 16. Sincerely thank you in advance!

@kimmythegoat34

Жыл бұрын

I think scar 18 is like 20°c degrees cooler on avg? And much more powerful i tink dont quote me

Hey are you suggesting repasting with a regular thermal paste or repasting again with liquid metal

Nice review, thank you! So your comment regarding liquid metal not being as good and offering service to repaste. If liquid metal is more expensive, more difficult to install and not as good for heat dissipation, why are manufacturers using it? I'm curious about this, as I might end up with the 4080 version of this laptop since that's all that seems to be in stock around here other than the Blade 18 that's 1/3 the cost more. I've repasted things before, but I can't remember a single time where it's ever given me better results than the manufacturers pre-applied paste.

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

LM still the best for CPU but needs applied by hand, it needs to coat a thin layer and then apply the LM on the top. I think it's because Asus's manufacturing is applied by machine so don't get the best result.

is it possible to replace the keycaps (the ones with the transparency effect) with normal ones ?

10/10 for the review

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

thank you.

@bernardomachado2187

Жыл бұрын

I want it, you give it to me

Thanks for your review, does de ssd are in raid 1 or you have two disks separarte no raid, i bougt one waiting to arrive and i will like to upgrade, i saw in the part number in your video that you have two nmve of 1tb, Regards

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

It came with RAID-0 factory installed.

Keep up the good work, 10/10 for the video. This laptop is my top choice but there is one more option, Eluktronics mech 17 with liquid cooling. Asus is a bit better and nicer looking, but coal whine is a bit of worrying they say it might even go worse over time and Eluktronics has better cooling with the liquid cooler, what do you think? Appreciate your opinion.

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Eluktronics mech 17 CPU still goes up to 90C which is ok and build quality is more like Clevo so you might also want to checkout Clevo / Sager laptops. Asus is major brand and price are higher if you are looking for more premium laptop, poor pasting job by machine but simple re-paste is a easy fix.

@Alen1984

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC Mech 17 costs same as Asus scar strix 18. My biggest worry is coal whine especially over longer period. Have you had issues with it on your 16 inch Asus?

@mineBMW

Жыл бұрын

​@@Alen1984 coil wine is possible to hear only during start something first 5 seconds. No any problem. Plenty pc Gpu have same issue.

@dertlininja

Жыл бұрын

@@mineBMW correct when i open my laptop first time i got crazy CW sound but after updates and so there is no more cw. if i dont open my laptop few days i only hear cw for few second that is all.

good review, thank you

Can anyone clarify me if those hinges are rigid? I have a feeling that they might not be so in the long run

Is there a function to turn off the dimming of the miniLED screen for programming, etc.? Kinda worried about blooming

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you can dimm the screen from the FN keys.

Plz get rtx 4070 140w and compare it to 3070ti. As per Jarrod performance is same but notebookcheck says it's 15 percent faster.

Where is small additional charging adapter?

How is the mini led performance? Saw someone that said the Razer blade's mini led panel has better blacks (the scar 16 looks grey in comparison)

@tareqislam1434

Жыл бұрын

Heard razer doesn't last long and has awful customer experience

@solitarymassacre

Жыл бұрын

@@tareqislam1434 I can second on the customer experience, bought a gaming chair and it had a bent rod so the seat sat crooked. Took like 3 months to get a replacement. Zero communication from them and then randomly I finally got it lol. Just bad.

Do you think this is the best performing 16inch 40 series laptop compared to the competition? Still deciding which laptop to get

@solitarymassacre

Жыл бұрын

Just making sure you know this is a 4090 laptop NOT a 4080

I bought this about 2 weeks ago... came with a broken speaker so I returned... but the most annoying part was that when i tried to fresh install windows via rufus bootloader... windows 11 loaded fine (most recent copy downloaded from microsoft)... but the windows installer would not find any of the NVME drives in the scar (including older ones I tried to put in it)... so i was unable to fresh install windows. Can you check if yours is able to fresh install windows via USB? Thanks

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

It's because VMD (RAID) is enable in the BIOS which Windows 11 installation can't see the SSD in VMD enabled mode. You can either install F6 VMD driver on a USB during Windows 11 installation or, disable VMD in the BIOS.

@Cryptomined

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC ohh :) raid is enabled when there is only 1 NVMe in it? it only came with 1 1TB NVMe inside, i was expecting 2 512 in raid. im going to order the flow x16 this week, so if i have the same problem I will try that. that is great to know :) thank you!

@solitarymassacre

Жыл бұрын

@@Cryptomined This is the standard for most newer laptops even with 1 drive plugged in. you need to put the drivers on the USB drive and load them when you are at the drive selection screen.

@Cryptomined

Жыл бұрын

@@solitarymassacre ah ok ill look into that, havent bought a laptop for maybe 3 or 4 years, thanks

Hello which one is the best for solo gaming ( games like cyberpunk dead Space alan wake 2 etc .. ) : this one or the asus scar 17 with ryzen 7945 rtx 4090 and ips ? Thanks

@GenTechPC

7 ай бұрын

gaming performance are similar with same GPU. If you like bigger screen go with Scar 17 or 18. If you like something smaller and easy to carry and same performance go with Scar 16.

Great review! Thank you! I'm not a fan of the translucent parts, they look kinda cheap. I wish Asus Strix laptops had a full aluminum body.

i wanted to know i dont wanna spend on thermal pads and i use thermal paste on my 2070 laptop and it works best for low temps but do i really need to change thermal pads on like vram and heatskin (it still factory pads on it) using since 2021 jan

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Scar 16 doesn't use thermal pads on vRAM.

I am afraid of Liquid Metal Is there any risk of Liquid Metal leakage?

Defective unit likely (throttling as seen in 3dmark temps), 25900 points in Cinebench too low for i9 13980hx.

@Cryptomined

Жыл бұрын

I bought one, defective broken speakers and windows 11 installer would not find any drives in it, including older NVME drives I tried since it was not finding the one it came with... very annoying. I returned it

@anddo24

Жыл бұрын

What's acceptable? I got 29450

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

No it's not defective because VMD (RAID controller) is enabled in the BIOS, therefore, it can't see any SSD during Windows installation. You need to download and install F6 VMD driver during installation so it can see the SSD. It's been working this way since Windows NT and Windows 2000.

@Cryptomined

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC oh im not saying the drive or MB was defective... my speakers were and i sent it back due to the speakers... the drives not loading during install was another thing... and i understand that fix now that you have told me. Thanks

@Cryptomined

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC just bought a zephyrus and yup ... turning off VMD in BIOS worked. Thanks!

can you show on a shorts video the provess of removing the fans?

@GenTechPC

4 ай бұрын

There are only 3 screws on each fan, remove the screws, disconnect the cable and take out the fan. You don't need to remove the heatsink to take out the fan.

QUESTION what are the first things I should check on my laptop to diagnose any faults on my unit

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Run 3DMark and check the score.

the timespy graphic score is not very good，for a 4090laptop did you turn on the dgpu function？

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

It's straight out of the box testing as usual.

@matthoppa1840

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC Then this was tested on stock profile not the Performance/Game profile. Hence the scores you're seeing. The Scar 18 has the same components (just a bigger cooling solution due to the larger size chassis). If you're going to show benchmarks, show them for the use case most people buy these laptops for. We should be seeing a Timespy of around 20.5k aggregate provided you do the simple step of putting the laptop in the correct fan profile (if you're running 3DMark you should be using Performance/Game profile) . Yes this laptop will be a bit hotter as it doesn't have the same size cooling solution due to chassis size but the temps are well within spec. You should also show actual temps of real world use, not just with a thermal camera or at idle. Temps after a 3DMark run would be more useful (especially if you do a 10 minute looping run to thermally saturate the cooling solution -- this will give you scores and thermals that are more indicative of real world use). There are plenty of tech KZread reviews of the Scar 18 that use proper testing methodology and consistency in their process to make sure users get accurate data to make an informed buying decision. Way to shill your re-paste service btw :D

just bought this beast.. btw is it okay for the cpu to reach 100 deg C?

@GangStiV0uli

7 ай бұрын

need undervolting from to -80

You mean the liquid metal is to be blamed or the bad application of it? I thought Liquid metal is better than normla paste

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

I mean the poor factory pasting job. LM is good.

Bro I purchased the same laptop , however I can’t seem to turn on HDR , it’s says use HDR not supported and don’t have have the same display information on the setting .

@jayryan1956

11 ай бұрын

theres two different screens for the same model, you might not have the same screen.

I ve got 18 version. Cpu max reach 95 C, and later fall up to 88. But suprise that Fire strike ultra You have 12 466 score points, but mine 13 498. Fully agreed that machine upllying LM on factory far away from best results.

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

the score difference was because of the driver versions. Some early nVidia drivers performs pretty bad.

Good review. I wonder if this thing is a possible 🔥 fire hazard?🔥

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Poor pasting job from Asus factory and probably bad LM material.

Sorry this laptop (rtx 4090 version) comes with 500 nits or 1100 nits mini led?

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

1100 nits mini LED.

Too bad they chose a translucent case, it makes the laptop look cheaper, while the rest is top notch.

price ?

Liquid Metal is supposed to reduce the heat because it has a much higher thermal conductivity. Using paste has a much lower thermal conductivity and also dries out over time. This is why Asus switched to Liquid Metal. Bruh 🤨

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

LM does not dry out overtime. It's was just a bad paste job from factory by machine.

@XyonusTV

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC My 12th gen Scar had a terrible LM application as well, had to do it myself and it was a considerable difference. It's sad paying so much for a high end laptop when the QC is so bad.

@jonathanr4160

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC It might not "dry" but it can definitely bond to your heatsink, which happened to me on an RTX 2070 Sager you guys sold me/ re-pasted with LM. Temps were good until a year or so, but then started throttling really bad. Paid someone to repaste it and they showed me how the LM bonded to the heatsink and there was nothing left covering the CPU die. Basically has turned me off to LM forever on a laptop now so there's that lol.

@Great_America

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC That is exactly what I said. Huh??

Amazing how the zephyrus g14 can manage a GPU score of 20000 in timespy when tuned in

@bartman2395

3 ай бұрын

mine g16 4090 is doing 21350

Got that one. Got two questions. Is it compatible with PCI 5.0 m.2 SSD ? Is it compatible with RAM DDR5 @ 5600Mhz. Can't find any info at Google.

@derekcranson2307

Жыл бұрын

No,doesn't support more then 4800mhz ram,and support only nvme gen 4.

@michalk5262

Жыл бұрын

@@derekcranson2307 Thanks. Where did you find this info if you don't mind?

@derekcranson2307

Жыл бұрын

I own a Asus scar 18, I tried 64gb 5600mhz and the laptop wouldn't boot.

@michalk5262

Жыл бұрын

@@derekcranson2307 ok thanks

Good review I agree the paste job is bad on that unit. However, the i9-13980HX runs hot period. I have yet to see an i9-13980HX from any manufacture NOT hit 100c momentarily. My Scar 16 will hit 100c for a brief moment when loading games, but usually settles in the 82/90c range... Cinebench 97c max... With a BIOS undervolt of -80 (max allowed by ASUS) my idol temps are around 42-52c. So yeah, 100c is high, but this is every factory i9-13980HX. The coil whine is a thing with 2023 Asus laptops. I have slight CPU coil whine with the fans at 5000rpm or higher... At 5000rpm you're in headphone territory anyway.. The coil isn't notable or absent during normal use.

@Olibelus

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I have the 18 inch G834JZ with a 4080 and i9 13980HX. It's honestly fantastic so far, after 12 days of everyday use and gaming I have no complaints, however some of the CPU's 'P' cores do hit 100c sometimes during gaming for long periods of time or during stress tests, whilst the package as a whole is usually around 80c-85c. On idle the CPU usually runs at 50c and the GPU 45c. As you said, it's likely every i9-13980HX, they just run hot.

@Olibelus

Жыл бұрын

I've also tried undervolting it in BIOS but ASUS only allows an undervolt of -30mV whilst it states that it can go up to a maximum of -80mV but any value above -30mV doesn't work. Also Intel XTU doesn't work currently, so I hope they fix this eventually and allow us to undervolt it a bit more!

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

i9-13980HX doesn't run hot, it's only poor pasting job and re-paste will fix it. MSI GE78 and GT77 with i9-13980HX don't even reach 90C under load with factory generic dry-type paste.

@solitarymassacre

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC Which do you think is better in performance alone? From your scores you gave on this video and the MSI GE78, the Asus is top in Fire Strike score, slightly higher in Time Spy, but slightly lower in all the others (You didn't do a Fire Strike Extreme for the asus, but you did for the MSI). Is it slightly lower because of the paste job? Also, is liquid metal not always better than traditional thermal paste? I watched your MSI video and the temps were insanely low for only using thermal paste. I'm guessing the fans are faster/move more air than the asus? If its not obvious, I am looking to get one or the other lol.

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

@@solitarymassacre GE78 has BIOS issue and latest update fixed it. The initial BIOS during launch does not perform well if laptop is plugged-in, instead, it runs at battery mode with lower performance and does not recognized it's plugged-in with optimal performance. It's all fixed now with latest BIOS update.

Is it worth buying that gaming laptop to play and edit video?

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Of course, you don't want to buy a office laptop for video editing. :)

Hey do you guys ship this to Australia?

@GenTechPC

7 ай бұрын

Yes we do ship internationally.

Did the repaste fix the temps?

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

It does. Not sure what kind of LM they are using but the result shows not the best.

so when i recieve my scar 16(ordered from xoticpc) could i send to you guys for a repaste?

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately we don't. But our re-paste is next-level. :)

@StateofDecayScience

Жыл бұрын

Should have bought it from GenTech where they don't charge you $50 for the repaste!

@Renverse64

Жыл бұрын

@@StateofDecayScience didn't hear about them till I saw the video lol

@Renverse64

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC what's the cost

@StateofDecayScience

Жыл бұрын

@@Renverse64 Check the description bud

good

Instead of liquid metal TIMs, OEMs should go with superior non conductive TIMs like PTM7950

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Liquid Metal are still slightly better than PTM7950.

@StateofDecayScience

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC But no risk, easy to install, Will get perfect results 100% of the time! Why are not you offering PTM7950?

Does this laptop support 5600mhz Ram? Or only limited to 4800mhz?

@GenTechPC

9 ай бұрын

It's limited at 4800MHz due to chipset limitation.

is the screen the same as the one on the duo 16?

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@Renverse64

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC when do you expect to ship those?

@ibrahimozdemir1973

Жыл бұрын

@@Renverse64 Its 3700 $ in GenTech or Xoticpc, but 4700 $ in Czech Rebuplic

Asus wins the box competition

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

Slightly confused, was always under the impression that liquid metal is more superior at transferring heat from CPU/GPU to heat plate and pipes, due to metal's unmatched thermal conductivity of delocalised electrons (being a unique property of metals). Has anyone experienced if the high temperatures of the '2023' ROG Strix Scar 16 and 18 are causing any throttling issues of prolonged/sustained running times? Incidently, MobileTechReview reported similarly very high temps on the ROG Strix Scar 17 which comes fitted with an AMD Ryzen, so maybe there's an issue with 'how' the liquid metal is being applied or processed at manufacture.

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

it was applied by machine from the factory, apply by hand will improve the performance quite a bit.

@yashj1072

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC how are we supposed to apply it manually?

Gorgeous design, overkill performance. Did you noticed any coil whine with this laptop?

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

normal use no, but can hear a little bit while benchmarking but can't hear when fan kicks in.

@lucamagni99

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC So, if I was like just browsing online, wouldn't I hear weird sounds? (obviously it goes from case to case). One last thing, which I think is the most important, that liquid metal that drips out of the chip die, was there already before you disassembled the heatsink system, or did you notice that it spilled after removing the coverage?

@michalk5262

Жыл бұрын

@@lucamagni99 it's very quiet 😀

@urulooke

Жыл бұрын

Terrible coil whine on my unit. When the fan is on during the game in performance mode it is barely noticeable, so if gaming is all you do then probably fine. On Silent mode coil whine is really bad. Watching KZread or other work on the computer - it's also really bad. I bought it mostly just for playing games, but even with that I'm thinking that I should return it.

@lucamagni99

Жыл бұрын

@@urulooke Thanks for your experience. As I thought, Asus continues to bring coil whine problems on its ROG series Notebooks, for generations now...

Thermals look disappointing. Though I'm not impressed with the paste job. Probably be much happier re-pasting personally.

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

LM is good stuff, it's just factory paste job not too good.

Wish I could buy with English keyboard in Japan!

Dude, the liquid metal is much better than any other thermal paste, the temperatures was high becouse the CPU and GPU are very powerful and both have a high TDP. Repasting it WILL NOT make the temperature to go low.

@GenTechPC

4 ай бұрын

Paste by machine and paste by hand makes huge difference.

@RafaelGanza

4 ай бұрын

@@GenTechPC nice, so prove to us. Make a video and prove what you're saying

the least u could do is record a 60fps. jeez those choppy fps made the video worse

How much in USD? ASUS for me is best at laptop design that is why I want this laptop at 4070 variant

@brianguerra

Жыл бұрын

4070 is bout 1,999 without tax

These rog strix laptops are like tanks structurally excellent build quality. Melting internals not good.

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

Learn physics, how can 100C melt anything except butter at 32C?

@solitarymassacre

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC I think it was just an expression...

the level of tense between my wife and me if i get this laptop makes me not wanting it. Pass

@suyini734

Жыл бұрын

Lmaoo waw

No more bag

It's melting! Yikes!

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

100C can melt butter but nothing more.

@kennysponto6568

Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC ok sounded rough. A question. I bought a raider ge77hx 3070ti 20k r23 score. It's still returnable. That said Is either strix scar 16 with either an i9 or the Ryzen version with an rtx 4080 going better than the msi ge77hx?

intro way too long, keep it short

@GenTechPC

Жыл бұрын

This is the short version.

To much cook whims