Did you see the interview from Odgaard and Arteta. They said they didnt intend to sit that deep. Also odegaard said they were exhausted having to defend that much that it made the transition sittuation for them more challenging. There is a reason why possession based football generally works better because it tires the oposition out

What this game showed is that Arteta has absolutely learned in game management now. He counteracted everything Guardiola threw at him. Do not underestimate this. I honestly believe he will be the most successful manager we've ever had and the timing will help- Klopp going this season and Guardiola next.

A point away at title rivals has always been a good result, regardless of what era we're talking. Especially when you've already won the reverse fixture.

Oh what a lovely Monday it has been. Arteta is much closer in mentality to Mourinho than Pep when it comes to building a watertight defence. We had supreme players executing a supreme shut-down. George Graham's sides couldn't have done it better. Gabriel was immense. I've watched O'Leary, Adams. Bould, Keown, and Campbell and Gabriel's performance was up there with those guys at their best.

Why are we lending any credence to people who can't accept that 8 of 12 points against Liverpool and City is a great result? We got roasted for not putting in goals during the first half of the season playing like City did yesterday, where is that same energy for City? Why can the best striker on the planet not score against us? We should have gotten far more praise from pundits and fans; what have they done against us that is meaningful this season?

@kasimshaikh3750

2 ай бұрын

I think you guys are failing to understand the criticism. This game said Arsenal just wanted to hang in there. They didn't go out & tell we are coming for the title that's what people are saying that's the criticism. When you are going for trophies you can't be saying oh it's City at Ethihad how do expect us to win.

@DrHankVenture

2 ай бұрын

@@kasimshaikh3750 you kind of failed to see the point, we haven't shipped points to the two clubs pundits and fans have both said we can't keep up with, and all the commentary is about us being to defensive, rather than on City and Pool doing literally nothing against us both home and away. We did our job and never capitulated, why are we the only team being criticized? Would it have been better to ship 4 away from home again rather than showing a mature performance? Why is the onus on Arsenal to play into City and Liverpool's hands? None of it makes sense.

@kasimshaikh3750

2 ай бұрын

​@@DrHankVentureBecause Manchester United played in a similar manner against Liverpool & were criticized. Arsenal are not above criticism.

@Jedimack7

2 ай бұрын

At this point Arsenal, everyone's favourite chew toy has started biting back and they don't know what to do with themselves. They would have wanted to see us destroyed 4-1 so that they could label us pretenders again but it never happened. The recriminations are best ignored.

@kasimshaikh3750

2 ай бұрын

@@DrHankVenture Well the onus is Arsenal to go & win because there's a thing called the premier league table. There is no difference whether you finish second or third. Arsenal are not the only team getting criticised. Last season Everton got criticized when they parked the bus & beat Arsenal 1-0. United got criticized when they parked the bus and got a point at Anfield this season. Stop the victim mentality.

I think it is Arteta's system this season. Guardiola tried loads of different things which pinned Arsenal back, last season we would've been battered but with Arteta's new defensive structure we were fine and didn't break under pressure. Stuck to the game plan, didn't panic and got a deserved result and could've won it

The draw at the Emirates against spurs from winning positions, now hurts more

So totally and utterly over the whining. We have a superior goal difference, we are 2nd in the EPL (by only 2 points), we are in the quarter finals of the ECL and we are looking at a squad that will only get better and, potentially, for the next 8-10 years. Anybody complaining at this point is just deluded and cannot remember what it was like to be crap. It wasn't that long ago that our centre backs were Mustafi and Sokratis or that it wasn't that long ago that we were losing games against "Top 6" teams, conceding 5, 6, 7 or even 8 goals in the process. Get over it people. This is a massive step in a direction that looked completely beyond us not so long ago. Enjoy the ride instead of just claiming all of the glory when we finally break the duck. It may be sooner than you think!

@virupakshawalla5734

2 ай бұрын

Indeed and the final destination is Jose ball. Its just a staging post in special circumstances. We just need fewer injury prone players in squad.

PPL SAY THIS WASNT A GAME FOR JORGINHO....WELL HE MARKED FODEN OUT THE GAME FOR 60MINS, JORGINHO BLOCKED ALL THE PASSING LANES THAT FODEN AND KDB WERE IN.....BUT PPL WONT SEE IT

@charles9489

2 ай бұрын

Considering he had a 67% passing percentage, barely got the ball forward, looked physically out it, I would say yes this wasn't a game for jorginho. Why the all caps though?!

@SHUTUPNOWW9360

2 ай бұрын

@@charles9489 arsenal plan wasn't to have the ball all the time....obviously

@Ghfjgjggj123shdhfnfmdk

2 ай бұрын

Ben White marked Foden out of the game

@SHUTUPNOWW9360

2 ай бұрын

@@Ghfjgjggj123shdhfnfmdk clearly you didn't see kdb and foden come central

@charles9489

2 ай бұрын

@@SHUTUPNOWW9360 bad is bad bro, he made 10 accurate passes for 66mins of play.

I agree with George, if we beat klopp and pep, the kudos will be huge. But if anyone thinks the Liverpool players aren't giving 120% to win klopp a title for his last season, they are INSANE !

@samkhan5661

2 ай бұрын

😂.. Liverpool was sitting on top of the league when he told everyone & his players that he was leaving.. They always give 100% for him!

George did you watch Saliba's 1st half starts? He was first in everything,dual won,pass accuracy ,progression etc

Each of the top 3 have a few tricky fixtures remaining. I think Arsenal's chances will depend heavily on the health of Martinelli and Saka the rest of the way. Our defense is obviously solid. Goals will be key and their ability to consistently contribute will be massive.

The reality is that on the day we were a team playing with limitations. Those limitations led to us being very pragmatic and focused more on defense and not attack. That's called intelligence on behalf of our manager and looking at the implications of us losing vs. drawing. If we lose the Premiership by 3 points, then we can cry and pout, but in reality, it's situational, and we did what we needed to do. ❤😂

0:00: ⚽ Discussion on Arsenal's recent performance against top teams, addressing fan reactions and overall satisfaction. 5:01: ⚽ Injuries to key players impacted Arsenal's game plan and performance, leading to confusion and criticism. 9:26: ⚽ Arsenal's defensive solidity against City praised despite not being at their best. 13:35: 🔑 Tactical surprise by Pep Guardiola forces Arsenal to adapt defensively and narrow their playstyle. 18:10: ⚽ Analysis of tactical adjustments in Arsenal v City match focusing on player positioning and press strategy. 22:09: ⚽ Comparison of entertainment value and performance against top teams between Liverpool and Manchester City. 26:34: ⚽ Gabriel showcased maturity and defensive excellence, standing out in Arsenal's performance against City. 31:07: 🔑 Analysis of players' roles in maintaining composure and position against technically secure City. 35:37: 💬 Ben White praised for composure and brilliance as best performing right back in Premier League. 40:00: ⚽ Premier League teams struggle to win away after International break, affecting Arsenal's standings. 44:22: ⚽ City's depth and quality make them favorites in upcoming fixtures despite recent draw. 49:00: ⚽ Crystal Palace's impact on the title race due to new manager and changed narrative. 53:09: 🏆 Speculation on Pep Guardiola's potential departure if Manchester City wins the title and Champions League. Recap by Tammy AI

George is my favorite, so insightful and intelligent, but still so passionate and so in love with the team, I love it!

@TheCannonPod

2 ай бұрын

Humbled by the kind compliments mate truly means a lot and cant wait to keep learning together :) - George

What went wrong to get outplayed by 10 men Fulham at home one up is a discussion. Are we not quite ready to surpass City is a discussion. Should we have have pkayed differently isn't one for me. We got hemmed in and didn’t fold. Nerves are real. City nervous CL final last season. Coping with nerves is different from bottling. Now we had good results at Liverpool last 2 season and collapsed after. Luton and Brighton are our next test of metal considering our previous big awzy game hangover.

Martinelli’s absence cancelled out Walker’s absence. I was looking for that. I have no idea how we scored the most in EPL while having an average attacking outlet. The quality is there but in terms of quantity, we just don’t have it. Just shows Arteta’s achievements more. If Wolves and Chelsea are in financial trouble, then Neto and Mudryk should be in question.

@coolerdude42

2 ай бұрын

We largely got a strong goal tally because we have several players whose profiles are to break low blocks and operate in tight spaces. But it seems that Martinelli is our only speed profile that effectively breaks on transition on the wings. Saka and Trossard can't do that and this is at least the 2nd game where that profile of player would have been clinical for us on mid/high block strong teams. I hear Nelson also has pace? Not sure if he would've made a difference offensively

Good Point ❤

Pep’s signings in his first summer at City: Gundogan Nolito Zinchenko Sane Stones Bravo Mari Rulli Mooy and then Jesus joined in the winter

It’s impressive how some players just get teams on their shoulders, like Bernardo Silva, KDB, Rodri these guys were the reason that we couldn’t even hold the ball, making all the press and all the attacking chances and creation… We need a Bernardo Silva… Sadly Saka/Martinelli/Jesus/Trossard even tho great and love them, they can’t do the same things as these City lads do… I wish Saka and Gabi to improve more and more and become like them… In the summer window we need a player that could face Bernardo Silva or KDB straight up! COYG

We will be there

Jorginho organisation was vital.

We have to win all 9 games by scoring multiple goals in the first half to start lumping the pressure on citypool. Making it look like we will not lose another game !

It would be funny if spurs lose all 3 games after most fans said they will decide the title 🤣

@liesideways

2 ай бұрын

funny and unsurprising

@aphexrhubarb

2 ай бұрын

perhaps some might call it Spurssy? 🤔

@virupakshawalla5734

2 ай бұрын

No it won't 😢. It will be hilarious if they lose one and its us. ❤

@ollie5464

2 ай бұрын

It would be funnier if they beat Liverpool and city, lost to us and helped us win the title.

Gabriel was our better defender I agree. I think some of the pundits fancy Saliba because his passing was off against city.

For fan it wasn't boring. It wasn't tactics but edgy intensity made it engaging. Time flew by. Thought it was hilarious Akanji said we tactically fouled lol. Pit and kettles flashing in my mind. Sorry mate we are allowed to learn from you lot.

I still remember too well how badly our last results with them went to be upset here

I agree with George in that Gabriel was more tenacious than Saliba in this game. Overall, I think Saliba has Gabriel beat in match-to-match consistency, but Gabriel has so many other attributes that Saliba has yet not honed into. He covers more spaces, makes more runs up, arguably has to be bullying attackers more often

@ferrm1992

2 ай бұрын

Odegaard (without the ball) was superb. And White was incredible. Jorginho & Saka were pretty much disappeared, obviously Saka is carrying injuries. Rice good as usual. Havertz, Raya & Kiwior were decent, complicated City a bunch. GJ was a straight up disappointment imo, Trossard should have started

How didn’t you guys remember Ilkay on crutches? Iconic signing but I agree he has been levels and is still growing. I have been saying he has been outplaying saliba all season.

Who is the organiser between Saliba and Gabriel? There's usually one in a partnership.

@Songstarify

2 ай бұрын

I'd say Gabriel...

Y'all are funny. Caring about what rivals think, granted, that game was sh*t but why would you care we didn't lose and we beat them at home. Bruh we ate 14+ goals from Liv and MCI one season. i don't care.

Quite frankly, we made the best team in club football look ordinary yesterday AGAIN. How many teams have done that once in a season in the past 8 years, let alone three times.

Peps first was gundogan def better than gabriel

lol throwing shade at nnt

We managed to breakdown Porto's low block at home. Why City fans not put the critic on their club more than us. They should find a way to score goal. You are the best club in the world btw, not scoring goal and blame on opposition? 😂 its more like crying than debate

I dont get why people are blasting Arsenal for the low block. It wasn't intentional. City players spaced themselves in their zonal press perfectly. We tried to play out the, we tried to be direct, but it just wasn't working for us. We had 2 opportunities, the Jesus miss and the Trossard miss, if we capitalize on one of those two, it is likely a very different game...But Jesus was half a second too late, and Trossard didn't square the ball to Martinelli because of an uncharacteristically bad first touch. I think the bigger mistake Trosasrd make was not try and find Havertz who had made a really good run into the box behind Akanji. The rest of these 9 games for all 3 of these teams is going to depend on how the law of averages plays out. I dont know how Liverpool aren't conceding more goals...their xGA is 35, for 27 goals conceded. And ours is 20, for 24 goals conceded. Liverpool are getting lucky to some extent, will that luck run out? Or will the power of friendship propel them to a title? Man City are pretty much right where they should be when it comes to their xG and xGA (good teams overperform their xG). Liverpool have an xG of 65 and have scored 67 goals. We have a xG of 57 and have scored 70 goals, and City have an xG of 57 with 63 goals. So I guess our bad luck with xGA is made up for with a big overperformance of our xG. Liverpool will drop points. We just have to capitalize on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 3rd.

@ephraimakoto3657

2 ай бұрын

You gonna finish 3rd after Chelsea is done with yall .

Was the game boring, it's a bit like people who watch UFC and think it's boring when they go to ground and do Brazilian ju-jitsu, unless you understand the technique and transitions involved in the ground game it looks boring. But if you know what they are doing it's like a intense chess game of moves and counter moves. A knockout in UFC is like a goal in that game, it will win you the match. Going to ground and counting each other moves is a tactical match that to the people who understand it is entertaining, but people who watch UFC only to see a knockout punch are missing the point. A technical football match with 0-0 is to some as entertaining as a UFC match without a knockout ! We did have the chance to win the game and on a different day we would of scored and everybody would of said it was absolutely a genius battle plan !

Our toughest game away would be Tottenham. Bookmark this tweet

Game flow was patchier than Alex’s “beard”

Looking handsome Bhaverene grrrrrr

nonewthing always catching strays from Alex lol

We had the pressure to win because we dropped too many points against Fulham. Now we have to rely on Liverpool dropping points.

@aphexrhubarb

2 ай бұрын

We have to rely on Liverpool to drop 2 points from 27

@Jedimack7

2 ай бұрын

​@@aphexrhubarbI can see them dropping points at Old Trafford as early as next weekend if they're not careful.

Who wants to bet that the next round of fixtures sees at least one of the top 3 drop points?

Is bhavs half sleeping?

The pundits built the clash up as a MUST win for us, not city imagine!! even if we played offensively and still drawn the game the narrative would still be the same for these so called football experts of these media platforms

My therapy would be 0-4 at the OT

Klopp’s signings in his first summer at Liverpool: Matip Mane Karius Wijnaldum Klavan Grujic Manninger Caulker

Fulham and Villa will cost us... and VAR

@mangoesboy

2 ай бұрын

We were robbed at Newcastle.

@JD-mc3bl

2 ай бұрын

​@@mangoesboyrobbed at villa too

@JD-mc3bl

2 ай бұрын

​@@mangoesboy& at Stamford Bridge. That was never a handball by saliba

@ephraimakoto3657

2 ай бұрын

Chelsea and spurs bout to cost you the title 😂😂😂

Fürst !!

Can we get the guy in the left to say *The Foggin Estandards* in every podcast please? I only subscribed for that reason