Are Men Falling Behind? Male Feminists vs Female Antifeminists | Middle Ground

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0:00 intro
0:25 Women have more privileges today than men
9:58 Men are falling behind in society
22:36 Women should also be drafted into the military
27:23 Female sex workers should be more respected
33:36 Men should take birth control
38:55 Being a mother is the most valuable thing a woman can do
44:48 Men need to be masculine to keep their families safe
50:30 The differences between men and women should be celebrated

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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee Жыл бұрын

    So what did you think of this episode of Middle Ground? Did anyone surprise you?

  • @mirrored464

    @mirrored464

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes there was a female on the male part

  • @lanaxv

    @lanaxv

    Жыл бұрын

    stop making these

  • @tiannatippins3562

    @tiannatippins3562

    Жыл бұрын

    Janelle was very pick me to me I thought she would be more middle ground

  • @_aoe

    @_aoe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lanaxv why? It gives perspective and educates. Helps you make out your own opinions and values.

  • @SavannahSchrader

    @SavannahSchrader

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it surprised me how these women were so apathetic and ignorant to the struggles of others.

  • @christinepoppy3277
    @christinepoppy3277 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t understand why people think a woman’s brain falls out of her head because she feels an emotion

  • @alex47_in_downtown18

    @alex47_in_downtown18

    Жыл бұрын

    Logic and reason falls out when emotion comes in the way

  • @YourSensei999

    @YourSensei999

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr, like when that lady in red brought up the military thingy it made no sense. First of all, every gender is capable of feeling fear from stuff like that. Second of all, we all have a brain, so we all can learn how u r supposed to act in such situations.

  • @eliseph

    @eliseph

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, every study ever that has been conducted on womens vs mens brains as shown that women are smarter, more logical, develop their frontal lobes way sooner in puberty and young adulthood than men do. also i dont understand why an emotional nurturing president is bad?? shouldnt you americans vote for a president who cares for the people and makes choices more based on morals, logic and empathy rather than cold brutal competition and war?

  • @MayaMickaMicak

    @MayaMickaMicak

    Жыл бұрын

    Because a lot of people don't count anger as an emotion, men can seem less emotional, but that's not true at all

  • @treacherousjslither6920

    @treacherousjslither6920

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@MayaMickaMicak Anger is mos def an emotion. Men and women both can be very emotional. Men are simply socially conditioned to not cry a lot. A little is acceptable. A lot is not. Whereas women are conditioned to cry. Women learn at a young age that their tears have power. Just my observations.

  • @iridiumm
    @iridiumm Жыл бұрын

    Jubilee never fails to find at least one person that’s infuriating in every episode 💀

  • @CrankyBarista

    @CrankyBarista

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder of who you refer??? 🤔 😂😂😂

  • @Hintvision

    @Hintvision

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂omg

  • @metr0_retr074

    @metr0_retr074

    Жыл бұрын

    You gotta be talking about the women in the Red Dress lol

  • @app6984

    @app6984

    Жыл бұрын

    It makes better tv. They obviously picked them.

  • @TheRandomMuffinMan

    @TheRandomMuffinMan

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I just want them to exclude the crazies in these talks since they really devalue the conversation.

  • @annak-h8194
    @annak-h81946 ай бұрын

    I literally don't understand how Janelle can say she won't take birth control because she doesn't want to put something unnatural in her body but gets giant breast implants in

  • @kiyyaakayy

    @kiyyaakayy

    5 ай бұрын

    LMFAOOOO

  • @butterytomatoes747

    @butterytomatoes747

    5 ай бұрын

    EXACTLY!!! Like we totally couldn't tell you've had artificial work done

  • @hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5

    @hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5

    5 ай бұрын

    her whole face 😭

  • @MrFlynny94

    @MrFlynny94

    5 ай бұрын

    Breast implants sit on the surface of the body? Birth control plays with your insides.

  • @jaeshasway

    @jaeshasway

    5 ай бұрын

    Not just B implants, tanning, fillers, and who knows what else.

  • @sarasmart9263
    @sarasmart92636 ай бұрын

    Some of them are confusing "womens" privilege with pretty privileged.

  • @v.xien.

    @v.xien.

    3 ай бұрын

    Ong

  • @ferwoodz

    @ferwoodz

    2 ай бұрын

    !😊

  • @musicplug1730

    @musicplug1730

    2 ай бұрын

    Yea all those women that survived the titanic were gorgeous

  • @FlurryJoe

    @FlurryJoe

    Ай бұрын

    There is no difference. Are there men with "pretty" privilege?

  • @Dani-in7fi

    @Dani-in7fi

    Ай бұрын

    Yesss ​@@FlurryJoe

  • @_studiofrancesca
    @_studiofrancesca Жыл бұрын

    “why don’t you get a vasectomy?” “i did” i’m dead that was such an amazing moment

  • @milomoody891

    @milomoody891

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr! My jaw dropped and I had to pause the video and playback that moment 😂

  • @whatever16jb17

    @whatever16jb17

    Жыл бұрын

    he’s an icon

  • @sarawithnoh9449

    @sarawithnoh9449

    Жыл бұрын

    STOP, THAT PART WAS SO UNBELIEVABLY SATISFYING!!!!!! THE LOOK ON HIS FACE TOO MY DUDE WAS ABOUT TO END HER WHOLE CAREER

  • @sekcbeast6713

    @sekcbeast6713

    Жыл бұрын

    That guy didn't seem happy to me.

  • @TheTomboy345

    @TheTomboy345

    Жыл бұрын

    And he became hotter when he said it.

  • @peasantsgalore
    @peasantsgalore Жыл бұрын

    janelle saying she wouldn’t put birth control in her body while having two very obvious implants is sending me

  • @liastorm795

    @liastorm795

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @Alison2436

    @Alison2436

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂 so true!

  • @happy153ful

    @happy153ful

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking that too but then she said she was sex trafficking so it might not have been her choice entirely. I am giving the benefit of the doubt.

  • @sharkisradiant6686

    @sharkisradiant6686

    Жыл бұрын

    LMAOO

  • @Tlahuiltezcatl

    @Tlahuiltezcatl

    Жыл бұрын

    😂🔥🤣🔥🔥🔥 she's a bimbo

  • @notyourred
    @notyourred5 ай бұрын

    Janelle : women are inherently loving and nurturing and caring Also Janelle : proceeds to be the most hateful and condescending and unreasonable

  • @tessanewson6556

    @tessanewson6556

    5 ай бұрын

    I despise that stereotype it's so traditional. Like we are in the 21st century now!!

  • @Itsmesaucekayuchibi

    @Itsmesaucekayuchibi

    4 ай бұрын

    Other than the leader part, I don’t think she said anything offensive. Her points were valid.

  • @Itsmesaucekayuchibi

    @Itsmesaucekayuchibi

    4 ай бұрын

    @@tessanewson6556stereotypes are based on facts and we need traditional roles to keep the society functioning and thriving

  • @Doomer_Optimist

    @Doomer_Optimist

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Itsmesaucekayuchibi no one attacked her points in this thread, although I certainly could. it's more like her demeanor was incredibly smug and distasteful.

  • @kurt5079

    @kurt5079

    4 ай бұрын

    @@tessanewson6556 It is not a stereotype it is a generality. As with any generality there are exceptions but it is also true and backed up by the social science and psychoanalytical data/research spanning for decades.

  • @amberwalls4852
    @amberwalls48526 ай бұрын

    when janelle said being poor is a "mental state"🤩🤩 it really just showed how disconnected she is

  • @tessanewson6556

    @tessanewson6556

    5 ай бұрын

    Literally thought the same thing! In sociology college courses you are taught about the myth of "poor culture"

  • @al-imranadore1182

    @al-imranadore1182

    5 ай бұрын

    Being poor in a first world countries is a just a mental state.

  • @whitepicklejuice

    @whitepicklejuice

    5 ай бұрын

    How is it "disconnect" when she herself came out of some of the shittiest circumstances a person could live through? Speaking for the way life is in the U.S., poverty could become a mindset if you convince yourself you will be in poverty forever, and do nothing to bring yourself out of it. That is 100% a mindset. It's odd however that you won't give her the proper credit and benefit of the doubt considering she has changed her situation for the better.

  • @kwandozu

    @kwandozu

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​Lol she is disconnected because she is egging on poor people who cannot afford children to reproduce, merely because she got away with having a child​ she had to depend on others to raise,@@whitepicklejuice

  • @mamba4ever113

    @mamba4ever113

    4 ай бұрын

    Being poor is a mindset. You can be poor but have a plan to escape it. If you have no plan and no one in your family does either...you have a poor persons mindset. It's not that hard to understand if you think a lil bit harder.

  • @JustKiccinIt
    @JustKiccinIt Жыл бұрын

    Janelle doesn’t sound like she’s anti-feminist she sounds like she’s anti-women

  • @plutosn0taplanet

    @plutosn0taplanet

    Жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @umusty619

    @umusty619

    Жыл бұрын

    Pro-plastic

  • @nailahdawkins

    @nailahdawkins

    Жыл бұрын

    @@umusty619 🤣🤣🤣

  • @rachybaby72

    @rachybaby72

    Жыл бұрын

    No, she's not anti-herself...

  • @mitch103178

    @mitch103178

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rachybaby72 Yes, she is.

  • @inesie6926
    @inesie6926 Жыл бұрын

    Janelle saying “one person speak at a time” after repeatedly cutting everyone off to speak or argue is hilarious.

  • @oopsibrokethecow

    @oopsibrokethecow

    Жыл бұрын

    What she really means is "Everyone listen to me and me only."

  • @braydendukes6633

    @braydendukes6633

    Жыл бұрын

    Thought the same thing

  • @MinifigNewsguy

    @MinifigNewsguy

    Жыл бұрын

    it's insulting for an "anti-feminist" to show so much boobs and little intelligence, whether you're a feminist or not.

  • @tahirihfudu4086

    @tahirihfudu4086

    Жыл бұрын

    she's annoying

  • @americanhomeownerwithajob6940

    @americanhomeownerwithajob6940

    Жыл бұрын

    Why didn't this panel put any real men on it?

  • @kellyjokanovich3939
    @kellyjokanovich39396 ай бұрын

    “I don’t put pressure on my son to be straight. I just tell him he has to be attracted to women.” Make it make sense Jenelle 🙃

  • @ThePestilentDefiler

    @ThePestilentDefiler

    3 ай бұрын

    Like biology intended. Dont normalize homosexuality.

  • @rayanneferreira8949

    @rayanneferreira8949

    3 ай бұрын

    Telling your son to be attracted to a woman is the same as putting pressure on him to be straight

  • @christopherestrada2474

    @christopherestrada2474

    2 ай бұрын

    I thought the LGBTQ were welcoming of all orientations? What if she’s fine with her son to be attracted to trans-women ? That’s not straight, that’s pansexual.

  • @maaalooo_1062

    @maaalooo_1062

    2 ай бұрын

    *should… makes a difference

  • @quandale3311

    @quandale3311

    2 ай бұрын

    Well it does, sexuality refers to sex, not gender, which are different according to liberal ideology.

  • @draytonwilliamsYT
    @draytonwilliamsYT6 ай бұрын

    Massive respect to Mason and his patience. Being told you’re not the person you are has to be so infuriating but he was so collected. Major major props.

  • @puliduspulls2070

    @puliduspulls2070

    6 ай бұрын

    Her patience ! It’s a her not a he, her! she shouldn’t be frustrated if that’s the truth she is a he r

  • @Iamvictor78

    @Iamvictor78

    6 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @dru8432

    @dru8432

    6 ай бұрын

    @@puliduspulls2070If hes happy why not let him do him

  • @manbeckl

    @manbeckl

    6 ай бұрын

    @@puliduspulls2070🙄

  • @manbeckl

    @manbeckl

    6 ай бұрын

    And Janelle had this creepy smile on her face while she was telling him.

  • @artemisia770
    @artemisia770 Жыл бұрын

    Lmfao at Janelle asking John whether he wants his daughter to grow up in a world full of individuality and acceptance and John’s just like…..yes?

  • @abitlost4087

    @abitlost4087

    Жыл бұрын

    Real

  • @jewel8439

    @jewel8439

    Жыл бұрын

    She was a s*x traffick victim who grew up without freedom, even now she’s too busy raising her son to research anything properly. I noticed it when she said “yeah I know the definition I googled it just today.” I just feel sorry for her, and y’all should really study how the traffickers brainwash their victims to be exactly like her. We are all products of our environment, and unfortunately we are all raised in different environments, so it’s hard to understand each other

  • @CrankyBarista

    @CrankyBarista

    Жыл бұрын

    Well someone who has surgically and cosmetically changed every natural apperance of her body obviously knows nothing of self acceptance.

  • @bigbiafra5288

    @bigbiafra5288

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jewel8439 That doesn't really make her wrong, you just don't agree with her. She was trafficked but still understands that there are only men and women and that we each have our roles means something.

  • @notlacin4961

    @notlacin4961

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CrankyBarista How can you assume that it was after she was trafficked or wtv for her to do that? Maybe her trafficker encouraged her to do that to make her seem more appealing etc.

  • @ciennabohmer9767
    @ciennabohmer9767 Жыл бұрын

    as soon as she said it was a privilege to be sexualized by men she lost me

  • @louievasquez2381

    @louievasquez2381

    Жыл бұрын

    Nobody can ever sexualize a women unless the women is doing it herself. If u walk around showing ur body, u will attract all kinds of attentions.

  • @katherinel4122

    @katherinel4122

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah she's an embarrassment to our gender :/

  • @orenmontgomery8250

    @orenmontgomery8250

    Жыл бұрын

    If you replace the word "sexualized" with "desired," maybe that would help? She's basically saying the one who is in possession of what another person wants is inherently in a strong position.

  • @monsieurtyrell9652

    @monsieurtyrell9652

    Жыл бұрын

    @@orenmontgomery8250 if my grandma had wheels she would've been a bike

  • @berryjamminsun

    @berryjamminsun

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@monsieurtyrell9652 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @maui_travels_
    @maui_travels_6 ай бұрын

    I giggled when Jenelle said ''I don't believe in putting anything that alters my body''...for obvious reasons

  • @thanerdchi

    @thanerdchi

    27 күн бұрын

    did u not hear when she said she was trafficked??

  • @supercriceto

    @supercriceto

    26 күн бұрын

    Maybe they're natural. Ahem.

  • @ryandavidson675

    @ryandavidson675

    26 күн бұрын

    @@thanerdchi That's more thank likely a lie. She has made this claim hundreds of times and has offered virtually no evidence to back it up.

  • @CyclingAMP

    @CyclingAMP

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@thanerdchi it's still funny 😂😂

  • @grandAlef443angel

    @grandAlef443angel

    24 күн бұрын

    @@CyclingAMP not at all.

  • @joclourey5118
    @joclourey51184 ай бұрын

    “I don’t think trans women should be a part of the feminist movement” while actively not associating with the feminist movement is craaazzyyy lmao

  • @shirazsharivar8536

    @shirazsharivar8536

    4 ай бұрын

    Ikr!!! like you are literally calling yourself an anti feminist, but you also wanna decide who is in the opposite side?

  • @joclourey5118

    @joclourey5118

    4 ай бұрын

    @@shirazsharivar8536 unbelievable lol like you disqualified yourself from this convo from the jump

  • @oryxisatthefront8338

    @oryxisatthefront8338

    Ай бұрын

    Tbf trans wome aren’t women so I get her point

  • @thatswhatshesssaid

    @thatswhatshesssaid

    Ай бұрын

    THIS

  • @byeee811

    @byeee811

    Ай бұрын

    Crazy cause why tf do she care or does she not support because she feels like some people shouldn’t be part of that group is why she wont support it

  • @averyestephan
    @averyestephan Жыл бұрын

    “having kids is very financially difficult” “i’m fine” HOW IGNORANT could you possibly be

  • @BozoLifts

    @BozoLifts

    Жыл бұрын

    FOR REAL

  • @preasia731

    @preasia731

    11 ай бұрын

    omg so annoying

  • @Seizuresalade

    @Seizuresalade

    11 ай бұрын

    Like they genuinely think if everyone had the same opportunities they would still be homeless and starving etc... So brain dead

  • @tre20tyu

    @tre20tyu

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s what I’m saying!!!

  • @doobieddooo

    @doobieddooo

    11 ай бұрын

    That is their whole argument. These anti-feminist women don’t think about other women. They’re like, “I’m fine”, what are these other women complaining about?

  • @lallovesu484
    @lallovesu484 Жыл бұрын

    janelle saying “women have hot bodies, they have men naturally coming to men but men have to build bodies” while having silicones??? the audacity

  • @ericx6969

    @ericx6969

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @dusscode

    @dusscode

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't see her boasting about her attractiveness.

  • @fyre4354

    @fyre4354

    Жыл бұрын

    she wants to talk about trans ppl getting gender affirming care like those implants aren't gender affirming to her as a women

  • @jaidenkara6931

    @jaidenkara6931

    Жыл бұрын

    YESSS

  • @Laenerysp

    @Laenerysp

    Жыл бұрын

    She was sex trafficked so it might not be her choice tho

  • @AvionBlackstone
    @AvionBlackstone4 ай бұрын

    "We are too emotional!" No, Janelle. *you* are too emotional.

  • @josephsmiley1

    @josephsmiley1

    24 күн бұрын

    Women are emotional.

  • @-_-Boomer-_-

    @-_-Boomer-_-

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@josephsmiley1Thank you dear human for being logical

  • @Kamille-Millie

    @Kamille-Millie

    22 күн бұрын

    @@-_-Boomer-_- Men are also emotional.

  • @-_-Boomer-_-

    @-_-Boomer-_-

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Kamille-Millie women are way more tho

  • @janetappmeyer7483

    @janetappmeyer7483

    22 күн бұрын

    @@josephsmiley1 Down the street from where I live, is a very large building that imprisons several hundred men that lost all logic when they couldn't control their emotions.

  • @jonellereyes6293
    @jonellereyes629324 күн бұрын

    Men have started wars over their EMOTIONS about a woman.

  • @Mr26muel
    @Mr26muel Жыл бұрын

    Janelle: I love the masculine energy we have here Mason: I'm trans Janelle: You have feminine energy 🙃

  • @adr1annn129

    @adr1annn129

    Жыл бұрын

    THIS

  • @FangeekJenna

    @FangeekJenna

    Жыл бұрын

    Thisss if he had not said he was trans she wouldn't have a damn clue!

  • @peterjimenez1075

    @peterjimenez1075

    Жыл бұрын

    This is toxic feminism

  • @ocrafting05

    @ocrafting05

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterjimenez1075 wdym

  • @alexh6767

    @alexh6767

    Жыл бұрын

    This is why you don't tell people 😬

  • @jessicawilliams3849
    @jessicawilliams3849 Жыл бұрын

    Janelle’s whole premise is “I don’t agree with feminism bc I don’t think women are smart/capable enough to have these rights”. I think it reflects a lot on how weak she sees herself. She projects her insecurities and failings onto other women

  • @ripdito

    @ripdito

    Жыл бұрын

    this!

  • @rattaface02

    @rattaface02

    Жыл бұрын

    Beautifully said 🙌🏽

  • @hi-yo1kq

    @hi-yo1kq

    Жыл бұрын

    Could not have been described better. It’s exactly this

  • @rudycastillo4150

    @rudycastillo4150

    Жыл бұрын

    Misogyny 😂

  • @samanthaplacide2267

    @samanthaplacide2267

    Жыл бұрын

    no truly. like she said things women feel that i couldn’t even relate to and genuinely confused me lol.

  • @priyankasantosh6542
    @priyankasantosh65426 ай бұрын

    Hey Mason, if you're reading this comment, I had no effing clue you were trans before you said it. And I'm so glad you managed to be so polite with Janelle, I'd have to control my punches. But you should know you look great and have a wonderful voice. More power to you!

  • @JullianLue

    @JullianLue

    4 ай бұрын

    SAAAAMMMMEEEE

  • @Josef_Stylin

    @Josef_Stylin

    4 ай бұрын

    That's a woman

  • @JullianLue

    @JullianLue

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Josef_Stylin YOU'RE SO WEIRD YOUR GREAT GRANDKIDS WILL HATE U IN THE FUTURE...

  • @elliot..5920

    @elliot..5920

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Josef_Stylincry

  • @kayliannemartinez1178

    @kayliannemartinez1178

    9 күн бұрын

    @@Josef_Stylin you are also a woman Josef.

  • @swagman7704
    @swagman77043 ай бұрын

    11:30 how does her answer switch so much? 😭 before he said he was trans, janelle greeted them all by saying they were ‘amazing men’ and she loved the ‘masculine energy’, but goes to say she sees only feminine energy and sees a woman???? miss girl 😭

  • @alessandra281
    @alessandra281 Жыл бұрын

    Somebody tell Jennelle that saying "no disrespect" does not justify saying something disrespectful. Props to Mason for remaining calm while his identity was continuously invalidated.

  • @Pikawarps

    @Pikawarps

    Жыл бұрын

    Her*

  • @Dwight_

    @Dwight_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pikawarps saying your opinion and own belief is not disrespectful. saying no disrespect is a way of saying i disagree but i don want to offend you and ill respect you.

  • @clue8569

    @clue8569

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pikawarps His*

  • @colleenruf7139

    @colleenruf7139

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s no way she would’ve said “I see you as a woman” if Mason hadn’t explained his backstory first. “I could sense your feminine energy” yeah I don’t believe her.

  • @romiaxel9306

    @romiaxel9306

    Жыл бұрын

    Literally, it was so disgusting how transphobic Jennelle was, truly apalling omfg

  • @MySaraMarie
    @MySaraMarie Жыл бұрын

    Anger is an emotion. I repeat: ANGER IS AN EMOTION

  • @theonewhosthere

    @theonewhosthere

    Жыл бұрын

    @@e.m.8094 okay..?

  • @yobbbu

    @yobbbu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@e.m.8094 ??

  • @aymanardo1322

    @aymanardo1322

    Жыл бұрын

    Jo mama is a women

  • @warriorstrength6797

    @warriorstrength6797

    Жыл бұрын

    Men have to get angry just as much as a woman should.

  • @LateNightChess

    @LateNightChess

    Жыл бұрын

    Go make me a sandwich

  • @Jim-of-Rohan
    @Jim-of-Rohan6 ай бұрын

    What a nice bunch of dudes. Daniel is the sweetest chad I've ever seen. John is a super thoughtful parent. Alex puts his money where his mouth is. Mason's got just all the patience in the world.

  • @NathanXYX.

    @NathanXYX.

    4 ай бұрын

    and they spread the most disgusting ideology of 2024

  • @Itsmesaucekayuchibi

    @Itsmesaucekayuchibi

    4 ай бұрын

    The women (except jenelle) too were very well spoken, patient and factually informed

  • @teobryksy5315

    @teobryksy5315

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Itsmesaucekayuchibibut no one's here taking away from the women

  • @StanDaMan4487

    @StanDaMan4487

    Ай бұрын

    Normies needs to stop using the word "Chad"

  • @airtrack9540

    @airtrack9540

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Itsmesaucekayuchibi “having kids is very financially difficult” “i’m fine”

  • @graceellen7984
    @graceellen79846 ай бұрын

    “ i don’t pressure I just tell him” Ya real clear Jenelle

  • @dropkickbunny
    @dropkickbunny Жыл бұрын

    Janelle saying "poor is a mentality" says everything you need to know about her opinions.

  • @masculineleadership

    @masculineleadership

    Жыл бұрын

    It literally is

  • @miacarter8740

    @miacarter8740

    Жыл бұрын

    @@masculineleadership well your username is masculine leadership so I know everything I need to know about you now😂

  • @BurntToast44242

    @BurntToast44242

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't like her, but she does have a point. Being broke is having no money and being in a state of financial crisis. Being "poor" is a mentality you see in a lot of people. College students are broke b/c of debt. The NEET who stay's in their mom's basement playing LoL is poor.

  • @hmmmmmm6901

    @hmmmmmm6901

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BurntToast44242 especially if you’re in a first world country

  • @shane-bl4jk

    @shane-bl4jk

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@miacarter8740 ....your name says alot about you, bub.

  • @friederikegrunberg7536
    @friederikegrunberg7536 Жыл бұрын

    Janelle: "I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body" Also Janelle: has had plastic surgery done

  • @arixmc5520

    @arixmc5520

    10 ай бұрын

    Came looking for this exact comment

  • @jonmelon

    @jonmelon

    10 ай бұрын

    She meant her hormones not her physical body

  • @HudaaJMalek

    @HudaaJMalek

    10 ай бұрын

    I mean you could argue that it was a product of her circumstances since she said that she was in sex work before

  • @voqz6667

    @voqz6667

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jonmelon excuse me? Are hormones used on your astral projection?

  • @Amateur_Pianist_472

    @Amateur_Pianist_472

    10 ай бұрын

    @@HudaaJMalekwow an anti feminist sex worker… she’s also very opinionated.

  • @manekineko111
    @manekineko1116 ай бұрын

    What lacks from their discussion is that BEAUTIFUL women are privileged, not all women.

  • @Mikedread876

    @Mikedread876

    26 күн бұрын

    It's not hard to be attractive as a woman. Just drink water, work out somewhat regularly, and wash your butt.

  • @01Meow01

    @01Meow01

    25 күн бұрын

    @@Mikedread876are u talking abt… basic hygiene???? Basic hygiene that is accessible to everyone????

  • @Mikedread876

    @Mikedread876

    25 күн бұрын

    @01Meow01 yes, but yet still many women cannot seem to pull of being attractive. Hairy armpits, dressing like a hobo, overweight on average...the comment here proves it.

  • @manekineko111

    @manekineko111

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Mikedread876 sure buddy... what about face proportions?

  • @jamesmcdonnell2455

    @jamesmcdonnell2455

    17 күн бұрын

    False. The sentencing disparity between men and women, is larger than the disparity between black and white. Do you think all female criminals just happen to be beautiful?

  • @crissyc9831
    @crissyc98316 ай бұрын

    What surprises me is how these women don't see how masculine and aggressive they come across. They can't see how they are exactly like the women they're criticizing?

  • @zalodelsolar3366

    @zalodelsolar3366

    2 ай бұрын

    Now imagine feminist women, they are literally men

  • @skaughtsman

    @skaughtsman

    22 күн бұрын

    I don't think they're criticizing being assertive. They're criticizing the ideology.

  • @karoliinakilpelainen3325
    @karoliinakilpelainen3325 Жыл бұрын

    If Jennelle thinks women are too emotional and illogigal then why would anyone listen to her talking points? She’s obviously just talking from emotion

  • @owl3650

    @owl3650

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @coraalllllll

    @coraalllllll

    Жыл бұрын

    the self conflict is crazy. When she’s arguing with herself does she listen to her sexist opinions? Or no because they came from a woman so they can’t possibly be logical

  • @dianael.

    @dianael.

    Жыл бұрын

    I cant imagine how much she suffers from self hate in her life

  • @leak3699

    @leak3699

    Жыл бұрын

    I literally thought the same

  • @tnago916

    @tnago916

    Жыл бұрын

    The irony 😭😭😭.

  • @LaraSmit-xr9vh
    @LaraSmit-xr9vh Жыл бұрын

    “I dont want to do anything that alters my body”-Jenelle GIRL HAVE YOU SEEN YOUSELF💀💀

  • @selinaschmolz7166

    @selinaschmolz7166

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol that's what i thought as she said it 😂

  • @GroupKillingFrenzy

    @GroupKillingFrenzy

    Жыл бұрын

    Yall some retards

  • @chrishammon14

    @chrishammon14

    Жыл бұрын

    She could mean her health. Don’t be ignant.

  • @LaraSmit-xr9vh

    @LaraSmit-xr9vh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrishammon14 breast implants can be dangerous too tf?😂

  • @chrishammon14

    @chrishammon14

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LaraSmit-xr9vh i see you refuse to not be ignorant to what hormones can do to someone. carry on narcissist.

  • @jaclynd7342
    @jaclynd73424 ай бұрын

    Janelle has some serious ingrained misogyny. From what she's shared in this video, particularly the detail about being sex trafficked for 10 years, she's likely experienced 10 years of emotional abuse, and has been manipulated and falsely "liberated" into these beliefs. It would be great to see her experience true genuine respect from inside and out, she's been so manipulated into this "thing" that she seems to feel is her only true self, fulfilling her worth the only way she knows how. Like wearing prison bars for a crown. There's so much more to life and identity than the confinements you're in, Janelle. I hope you find your way.

  • @khh6801
    @khh68016 ай бұрын

    My constant awe and support for the people who are literally victim to things like transphobia and other forms of discrimination and still manage to keep their cool. As tough as these are to watch, they’re really necessary. Talking always wins over shouting.

  • @toobakhanani8775

    @toobakhanani8775

    6 ай бұрын

    I have a solution. Stick with what nature chose for you.

  • @MadaraUchiha-.._

    @MadaraUchiha-.._

    4 ай бұрын

    shouting always wins because the people talking will just get their voice muted over the ones shouting

  • @mamagherbear7082

    @mamagherbear7082

    3 ай бұрын

    @@toobakhanani8775 I have another solution. Stop being a twat.

  • @benjaminlemoine11

    @benjaminlemoine11

    25 күн бұрын

    Just deal with it. You make it surprisingly far in life if you can tolerate all the stupidity around you and just be patient, no matter the person.

  • @foireur117

    @foireur117

    20 күн бұрын

    Using correct grammar is not transphobic.

  • @aligoeswest
    @aligoeswest Жыл бұрын

    Felt like Jenelle held the group back from more meaningful conversations

  • @sloanes_edits

    @sloanes_edits

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, she didn’t giving her side much attention and efforts towards the conversation because she was selfish and talked over people

  • @gayfield420

    @gayfield420

    Жыл бұрын

    she also seemed like she was held back several grades in school

  • @anastasia-fr1gn

    @anastasia-fr1gn

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah she didn’t let the others speak.

  • @Lynnessanovember

    @Lynnessanovember

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree can we have a redo

  • @cocolezlie

    @cocolezlie

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!! Everyone was so articulate except for Janelle and Kaylee- their arguments were mostly based on delusion. When the other women and the feminists talked it was so much more impactful

  • @skatexius1710
    @skatexius1710 Жыл бұрын

    The woman in red is unbearable to listen to, but I do (kinda) agree on one thing with her - women LIKE HER should definitely not be in positions of power and leadership. She is so judgemental, close minded and completely disrespectful to anyone others personal experience. Kudos to everyone for managing to uphold a conversation with her :D

  • @carinocarino4009

    @carinocarino4009

    Жыл бұрын

    you are so open minded that you dont tolerate anything other than your opinion

  • @skatexius1710

    @skatexius1710

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@carinocarino4009 Thank you so much for your opinion, I didnt think I was open minded at all...I appreciate your words :)

  • @swatisaini6447

    @swatisaini6447

    Жыл бұрын

    @@skatexius1710 disagree! Her dress is orange colour not red

  • @sjdess

    @sjdess

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah maybe she believes that women are too illogical and emotional because she herself is. It's just you, lady!

  • @skatexius1710

    @skatexius1710

    Жыл бұрын

    @@swatisaini6447 Hehehe 😛I might be colourblind, so I'll take your word for it :D

  • @username_kk2177
    @username_kk21776 ай бұрын

    I like Amala a lot, she was very rational and really considerate of other views. Smartest one there by far.

  • @HashNub

    @HashNub

    2 ай бұрын

    Same. I enjoy watching her channel. Being a former liberal, she draws from her previous experiences and can relate topics between both sides of a problem/question, so she's great at playing the devil's advocate while still disagreeing with a side.

  • @jenni3924
    @jenni39245 ай бұрын

    “i don’t believe in anything that alters my body”…..okay sureeee janelle LMAOOOOO

  • @AlanaGuez
    @AlanaGuez Жыл бұрын

    "I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body" having multiple obvious surgeries is WILD

  • @-PiNKSYRUP

    @-PiNKSYRUP

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@cheeling794😭😭🤣 SAME

  • @biggooba6706

    @biggooba6706

    9 ай бұрын

    whats your IQ LMAO

  • @gabevive71

    @gabevive71

    8 ай бұрын

    Well, she said she was trafficed for years, so idk if it was her choice, but if it was, yeah, kinda hippopotamus lol (hypocritical)

  • @_dnlcee

    @_dnlcee

    7 ай бұрын

    That's not how I understood it. Things that can change your hormones are more permanent and can be dangerous it's not so easily removed unlike silicone.

  • @dewdew80

    @dewdew80

    6 ай бұрын

    @@gabevive71 didn't watch the video after concluding I'd be too annoyed...why did they get the opinion of someone so highly traumatized? Seems like a bad idea.

  • @katgrace3966
    @katgrace39669 ай бұрын

    Janelle: "Men are under a lot of pressure." Also Janelle: "I tell my son that he HAS to only like woman."

  • @markusmath3421

    @markusmath3421

    8 ай бұрын

    based

  • @jcdenton7914

    @jcdenton7914

    8 ай бұрын

    She was simultaneously an anti femminist saying redpill stuff while also spewing the woke nonsense of blaming cishet white men for all her problems in an argument with Destiny.

  • @MissZellers

    @MissZellers

    8 ай бұрын

    She definitely doesn’t have any « feminine » pressure to end up with so many surgeries… 🙄

  • @YaveCole

    @YaveCole

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah that's a lot of pressure, almost unreasonable levels of pressure. I mean kids in the lithium mines don't even have close to that amount of pressure. Just let everyone be is my moto

  • @inmyjoe

    @inmyjoe

    8 ай бұрын

    That woman is so insecure it’s sad

  • @Alexandrasscott
    @Alexandrasscott4 ай бұрын

    Mason is just a beautiful soul 🥹 the people close to him are very lucky

  • @terrasmith2707
    @terrasmith27075 ай бұрын

    “All women are doted on and treated better from the time they’re young” wow, I’m not even a feminist and I still think that was the stupidest statement ever made on KZread.

  • @missshooks
    @missshooks Жыл бұрын

    I wish they had like a mediator that would check information when people on these shows claim that data supports things.

  • @marvinmiller2983

    @marvinmiller2983

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Jubilee needs to start fact checking EVERYTHING people say on Middle Ground and putting it on screen. They already do a little bit at least

  • @berrymckockiner5883

    @berrymckockiner5883

    Жыл бұрын

    But most fact checkers can't be trusted, even chat gpt is full of bleeeppop

  • @alexgrissom7251

    @alexgrissom7251

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, if that would happen then the screen would be packed with fact checks throughout the whole show. The best thing to do is to do your own research while you are watching the show. I ddid that and find out that some of the things that the women were saying was correct.

  • @arianaariel4197

    @arianaariel4197

    Жыл бұрын

    Which ones? Can you provide recourses? Or atleast tell me what the topic is about and I’ll find it myself

  • @sannisideup

    @sannisideup

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@alexgrissom7251 if they are able to display debates, they should be able to fact check the things said in the debates, it can be briefly addressed. Otherwise, it contributes to misinformation being spread which really doesnt help any of us

  • @nezalubej1826
    @nezalubej1826 Жыл бұрын

    Jenelle: "I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body." Also Jenelle just sitting there:

  • @juan_lopez1999

    @juan_lopez1999

    Жыл бұрын

    🍈🍈🤫

  • @Sarah-gt2tj

    @Sarah-gt2tj

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah... i was boutta say

  • @hopefulromantic.

    @hopefulromantic.

    Жыл бұрын

    jennelle the entire time: 🔸️ 👁 👄 👁 🍊 🍊

  • @sourlemons4

    @sourlemons4

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't think she even knows when she contradicts herself its like words just fly out of her mouth without her thinking

  • @Random-sk6hm

    @Random-sk6hm

    Жыл бұрын

    FR 😭

  • @maxikhani235
    @maxikhani2355 ай бұрын

    “I don’t like anything that alters my body” says Janelle with a serious face

  • @niaroseagreste
    @niaroseagreste5 ай бұрын

    Janelle shaming mason for getting a transitioning surgery is so ironic coming from someone who looks like an alien at this point.

  • @virgobutcaye

    @virgobutcaye

    4 ай бұрын

    exactly.. i dont like shaming ppl for botched surgeries but her surgery is.. botched

  • @niaroseagreste

    @niaroseagreste

    4 ай бұрын

    @@virgobutcaye I feel kinda bad for her I mean I'm sure that she did it for male validation considering her statements.

  • @terencemayers6568

    @terencemayers6568

    27 күн бұрын

    You bunch of racist 😒

  • @jamesmcdonnell2455

    @jamesmcdonnell2455

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@virgobutcayewhat if you found out that the surgery was forced upon her while she was being trafficked? Sure one may assume that if that was the case, she would have it reversed, but there's no guarantee. I'm not saying this is what happened. But I will point out the true irony in how you don't actually have any problems with her insulting people over getting plastic surgery, you just have a problem with her target.

  • @virgobutcaye

    @virgobutcaye

    17 күн бұрын

    @@jamesmcdonnell2455 no, i have a problem with her insulting anyone over having any kind of plastic surgery. especially since its extremely hypocritical coming from her.

  • @Kaiteevasey
    @Kaiteevasey Жыл бұрын

    I find it interesting that Daniel, the buff guy, actually portrays more femininity than anyone else on that stage. Janelle, as much as she believes she is super feminine, displays a lot of masculine energy.

  • @Ghostinaseashell1789

    @Ghostinaseashell1789

    Жыл бұрын

    She has inner misogyny

  • @WPC799

    @WPC799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ghostinaseashell1789 i think she’s just a bit daft

  • @mohammadjuhail86

    @mohammadjuhail86

    Жыл бұрын

    So true.

  • @thomaspeterson6097

    @thomaspeterson6097

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought the same thing.... We had like an almost submissive feminine buff guy vs a very agressive woman

  • @kristenj2009

    @kristenj2009

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree with you about Janelle. It is possible for women to be feminine in their lifestyle, choices, actions, etc. and masculine in their personality and thinking ie. alpha-type personality. There are lots of women who display traditionally masculine traits of being loud, aggressive, decisive, etc. (not in a negative way), but are super girly in their clothing and lifestyle choices.

  • @naomim.7220
    @naomim.722011 ай бұрын

    "Women are too emotional" as if men dont go starting wars because someone insulted their wig

  • @Idkanymore567

    @Idkanymore567

    11 ай бұрын

    Valid

  • @klaudinegarcia8932

    @klaudinegarcia8932

    10 ай бұрын

    Or their wife cheated and eloped with another guy! (the movie Troy) 😂

  • @arrrrr1689

    @arrrrr1689

    9 ай бұрын

    Lmao🤣🤣which war is started by that

  • @yarpenzigrin1893

    @yarpenzigrin1893

    9 ай бұрын

    Women leaders statistically start wars more often than men.

  • @KingDiamondBones

    @KingDiamondBones

    9 ай бұрын

    no wars aren't started by insults their is many reasons like religion and conquest like WW2 germany wanted to annex every country and get big some other reasons is to destablize and money no war has been based on emotions

  • @gravityclarity
    @gravityclarity4 ай бұрын

    Amala is the only anti-feminist who was logical.

  • @kristinapetravirbalaite4931
    @kristinapetravirbalaite49316 ай бұрын

    I'm glad to know those men exist. Thank you for showing them. It inspires hope. I'm starting to realize that at this point in my life, I can't develop intimacy with individuals who don't grasp it.

  • @thekikombe
    @thekikombe Жыл бұрын

    Props to the moderator for calling out the lady in red for incessantly disrupting others’ train of thought.

  • @chlownee

    @chlownee

    Жыл бұрын

    Literally the second I read this comment, that happened 😭

  • @calebjh

    @calebjh

    Жыл бұрын

    When is was vise versa there was nothing said though… interesting

  • @Briecheese785

    @Briecheese785

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnbaddoghellno7751 “They seem to have problems thinking not the sharpest tools but the ladies were. Betas soyboys and 1 balding women” and you seem to have some issues with your grammar and punctuation’s, because wtaf is this sentence…💀

  • @videovoidtv

    @videovoidtv

    Жыл бұрын

    Why did they even book her for this. They created the problem that you are praising them for calling out.

  • @Jay-jb2vr

    @Jay-jb2vr

    Жыл бұрын

    304 behavior

  • @chiaramassa2754
    @chiaramassa2754 Жыл бұрын

    Jenelle is the reason why the saying "When the idiots become confident, the world is in danger" exists.

  • @georgiana1147

    @georgiana1147

    Жыл бұрын

    couldn't have said it better

  • @inesarif8497

    @inesarif8497

    Жыл бұрын

    She really bought nothing beneficial to this conversation, the prompter had to tell her twice to let others talk. 😂

  • @yeseniamendoza5844

    @yeseniamendoza5844

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup.

  • @Random-sk6hm

    @Random-sk6hm

    Жыл бұрын

    FR

  • @atlantis6855

    @atlantis6855

    Жыл бұрын

    They picked some of the worst women to represent the women haha

  • @ryleeherrera596
    @ryleeherrera5965 ай бұрын

    It’s kind of funny to me that these women were all displaying typically masculine associated traits(being confident, out spoken, protective, a leader, etc..) and yet the way they so quickly dismissed the idea that masculine/feminine is determined person to person is just so funny to me. Also the complete frustration I had to endure listening to them go on and on about the female vs male mind was just… so closed minded not because these are not factors to consider but because they refused to see the diversity that is the human mind and even if a field is naturally dominated by one gender or another it should not be that your stance is to permanently exclude any of those who would have been able to helpfully contribute to those fields on the basis of prejudice. It’s so sad seeing how one track mind these anti-feminists are because they are living proof that there are women with something powerful to contribute to the world that isn’t just being a mother figure. I have so much more to say but yeah

  • @abdullahmertozdemir9437

    @abdullahmertozdemir9437

    22 күн бұрын

    the way janelle says women are emotional and their judgement can't be trusted, all the while confirming we can't trust her judgement by her own standards? I am neither a feminist nor an anti-feminist, but the cognitive dissonance in anti-feminist crowd is just so blatantly showing. It is weird how no one pointed this out

  • @akshitaverma8694
    @akshitaverma86945 ай бұрын

    If I hear the ‘protector-provider’ argument from anti-feminists in these episodes again, I am gonna scream.

  • @NathanXYX.

    @NathanXYX.

    4 ай бұрын

    nobody cares

  • @mvstudios4922

    @mvstudios4922

    4 ай бұрын

    @@NathanXYX. did you finally get picked? :O

  • @NathanXYX.

    @NathanXYX.

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mvstudios4922 I'm happily married and unlike you I care about both genders

  • @kwandozu

    @kwandozu

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​@@NathanXYX.your initial response to this person is the precise antithesis to, "caring about both genders." But okay.

  • @NathanXYX.

    @NathanXYX.

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@kwandozu cause she was being misandrist

  • @Madeleine..
    @Madeleine..8 ай бұрын

    There is nothing more disgusting then seeing your own sex degrade itself

  • @barkbark9000

    @barkbark9000

    5 ай бұрын

    its really not degrading ur js brainwashed by current media

  • @nitrocity8402

    @nitrocity8402

    5 ай бұрын

    i seen no degrading

  • @p.nkaboo

    @p.nkaboo

    5 ай бұрын

    @@nitrocity8402 then your slow?💀

  • @Karma1st

    @Karma1st

    5 ай бұрын

    You degrade yourself by acting like something your not lol

  • @anomite121

    @anomite121

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Karma1stthat's transphobic

  • @Firedragon0202
    @Firedragon0202 Жыл бұрын

    I love when the black shirt lady basically said “I don’t experience this problem so it doesn’t exist”

  • @mmm-ie5ws

    @mmm-ie5ws

    Жыл бұрын

    but when feminist women say the same thing your not for it. correct?

  • @ghhoulx

    @ghhoulx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mmm-ie5ws what issues has feminism stated this about?

  • @iiastridii

    @iiastridii

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mmm-ie5wsquickly

  • @feel_special143

    @feel_special143

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mmm-ie5ws r u gonna reply?

  • @tonyonaperky2128

    @tonyonaperky2128

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ghhoulxFalse accusations. You don't face it so you say "PERSONAL ANECDOTES DONT COUNT REEE" but you'll scream your personal anecdote of being fuked in the 4ss

  • @Iamalltoounwell
    @Iamalltoounwell5 ай бұрын

    I respect the patience everyone has to speak to Janelle patiently and calmly

  • @lexidodgson4659
    @lexidodgson46596 ай бұрын

    Janelle saying that the military messed her back up is such a joke when she has 60k worth of surgery in the front

  • @ryandavidson675

    @ryandavidson675

    26 күн бұрын

    She was probably never in the military. She is a serial liar.

  • @purplelightwolf741
    @purplelightwolf741 Жыл бұрын

    Jennelle was an embarrassment. Everyone else was so level, thoughtful and respectful. She just wanted to fight with everyone about things she didn't agree with, and shift the conversation away from the topic to things she wanted to fight about.

  • @i7ven

    @i7ven

    Жыл бұрын

    She's fighting for mens rights, but by doing that she's bringing the other half of men down

  • @bishbosh4815

    @bishbosh4815

    Жыл бұрын

    They always have someone like that

  • @damage_inc86425

    @damage_inc86425

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@i7ven Very well said, Seth!

  • @miss-nomer

    @miss-nomer

    Жыл бұрын

    I honestly thought Jenelle was a trans woman.

  • @Stillchannel22

    @Stillchannel22

    Жыл бұрын

    I think all the anti feminist were insanely rude, abrupt and dimensioning to everyone else’s opinion. They didn’t respect anyone’s option and came to argue, not debate.

  • @rachellee2152
    @rachellee2152 Жыл бұрын

    “i see a woman” is such a crazy thing to say 😭😭😭

  • @majasadowska9683

    @majasadowska9683

    Жыл бұрын

    And him being ok with it😳

  • @jasminegates-cr5hg

    @jasminegates-cr5hg

    Жыл бұрын

    Bros got more restraint than me

  • @wowest.

    @wowest.

    Жыл бұрын

    I see men when I see western trans women

  • @oPlayboy805

    @oPlayboy805

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean it’s true I bet that’s the first time he’s guests that too

  • @magallanesagustin4952

    @magallanesagustin4952

    Жыл бұрын

    Because she's still biologically a woman.

  • @user-bu3vt5bz8s
    @user-bu3vt5bz8s4 ай бұрын

    being a female, I absolutely hated everything the anti-femenists said

  • @jacobvisser4750

    @jacobvisser4750

    29 күн бұрын

    ofc cuz you’re a women 😂

  • @isaactrussell5121
    @isaactrussell51215 ай бұрын

    John is the best. So level headed and non judgmental.

  • @_studiofrancesca
    @_studiofrancesca Жыл бұрын

    Maybe this is just me, but when i think of feminism, i don’t just think about American feminism. There are still so many countries with discriminatory laws - not to mention Iran where femicide is actively happening! Feminism is necessary on an international scale

  • @a.k.salazr

    @a.k.salazr

    Жыл бұрын

    @Florentino Perez MMM.. not entirely, but it's way better than other countries.

  • @sayyestolife333

    @sayyestolife333

    Жыл бұрын

    @Florentino Perez BECAUSE of feminism. So that is why its sad but hilariously childish to see western women who benefit from feminism so passionate about hating feminism...

  • @speedytrader5180

    @speedytrader5180

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Florentino Perez well I live in the so-called Western world yet in my country women are still largely seen as bad workers because they could get pregnant at any time and go on paid leave, for that employers tend to be way more strict when hiring women,so I believe that there is still quite a long way to go in the West as well.

  • @hrishitasinha9334

    @hrishitasinha9334

    Жыл бұрын

    OMG SAME!! like who's gonna tell them there's a world outside AMERICA that needs feminism.

  • @eriksucioboy686

    @eriksucioboy686

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@A.K. Salzr how are we not?

  • @taytae1989
    @taytae1989 Жыл бұрын

    Gosh. The calm energy of John, the way he expressed himself...it was just so beautiful. He seems like a great father.

  • @mattheq9930

    @mattheq9930

    Жыл бұрын

    Same with Jenelle😊

  • @divyanshsingh1078

    @divyanshsingh1078

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattheq9930 wtf r u serious

  • @midwestrebel2

    @midwestrebel2

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah the males & trans on here are so sensitive , brainwashed

  • @midwestrebel2

    @midwestrebel2

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mattheq9930I agree she's beast !

  • @davidbrooks1700

    @davidbrooks1700

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr,

  • @kiya0334
    @kiya03346 ай бұрын

    The men in this video are really smart. Mad respect for them to be so patient and calm till the end.

  • @BELLAOMG991

    @BELLAOMG991

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, applaud men for the bare minimum like all male “feminists”

  • @thedieseldiet

    @thedieseldiet

    4 ай бұрын

    They respect all women 🙏

  • @dbamp
    @dbamp Жыл бұрын

    kaylee and jennelle are the definition of egocentric bias-- "if it doesn't happen to me, it doesn't happen to any women." hearing kaylee, who is clearly well off, respond to the idea that some people can't afford to raise a child with a "well, but i'm fine" made my blood boil

  • @kaitlynbradley8787

    @kaitlynbradley8787

    Жыл бұрын

    i just came into the comments to see if anyone said anything about this. the mocking comment she made about poor people not wanting to have kids was SO beyond disrespectful - i can’t believe jubilee even kept it in the video.

  • @madisongreen9816

    @madisongreen9816

    Жыл бұрын

    Kaylee sounds like a spoilt, sheltered, and privileged child. It’s like she can’t comprehend that other people in the world have it harder than she does

  • @id4551

    @id4551

    Жыл бұрын

    THIS

  • @thekayleelayton

    @thekayleelayton

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kaitlynbradley8787 the feminist movement literally encourages that. you guys are idiots if you can’t see how degraded women are and how torn down they are from being able to raise a child.

  • @shorterstax

    @shorterstax

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@kaitlynbradley8787 they kept it in the video to show that sometimes people really are that crazy with their beliefs

  • @Jasmine-dd8ce
    @Jasmine-dd8ce6 ай бұрын

    These women made these men feel how women in general feel like in this patriarchal society.

  • @musicplug1730

    @musicplug1730

    2 ай бұрын

    Patriarchal society??? What other option is there?

  • @yawnzzn1206
    @yawnzzn120625 күн бұрын

    Omg Janelle gives me second hand emberassment, not her thinking he asked her about her sex drive that's crazy

  • @Qualex14
    @Qualex14 Жыл бұрын

    The energy I get from Jennelle is of a person who thinks that comment sections on social media are an accurate reflection of society.

  • @crustycrabpizza4581

    @crustycrabpizza4581

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!!!

  • @WildXstElementZ

    @WildXstElementZ

    Жыл бұрын

    You’ve worded so well. You genius

  • @sayyestolife333

    @sayyestolife333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank youuu thats so many of these people. The youtube algorithm that is fueled by extremes to make you click and comment is how they judge feminism as a whole

  • @zzzaaayyynnn

    @zzzaaayyynnn

    Жыл бұрын

    haha, perfect, so true

  • @raqimk

    @raqimk

    Жыл бұрын

    I wanna be friends with you fr😂 genius

  • @parrisnia72
    @parrisnia72 Жыл бұрын

    I couldn’t tell that Mason is trans. The fact that she said she can sense "feminine energy" from him makes me wonder if she only said that because he said he's trans lol

  • @Marz2727

    @Marz2727

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course Jenelle said it for that reason, Jenelle is an awful human being.

  • @Execution88

    @Execution88

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely knew he was feminine, you could tell from his mannerism and the way he spoke

  • @choco12325

    @choco12325

    Жыл бұрын

    i felt so bad for Mason for having to deal with her T_T

  • @jcookway

    @jcookway

    Жыл бұрын

    As a gay male, I just thought maybe he was a fellow gay male, everyone can have a little feminine energy that doesn’t make them gay or trans just makes them human. She definitely just said that to be annoying.

  • @ag2407

    @ag2407

    Жыл бұрын

    Mason 100% has female energy, thinks like a woman because he was born as one. Whoever doesn’t sense that is coping

  • @dashed0327
    @dashed03274 ай бұрын

    Why does the most annoying person have the most to say?

  • @hobovan.
    @hobovan.4 ай бұрын

    [18:09] as a dude, my brain is definitely all over. i enjoy talking about my issues. the women in the video make a lot of assumptions about men that are straight up false, but because their source is basically just societal expectations and not individuals, there’s no way to argue against it without extending the argument outside of the prompt and talking about the patriarchal structure of society.

  • @musicplug1730

    @musicplug1730

    2 ай бұрын

    lol you enjoy talking about your issues

  • @meghanluhowy3152
    @meghanluhowy3152 Жыл бұрын

    It's so sad how Kaylee is so close-minded and judgmental. She's the epitome of "if it doesn't happen to me, then it's not a problem for anyone else either."

  • @Chris-ko7ov

    @Chris-ko7ov

    Жыл бұрын

    @amanamhie I agree, but I think an interesting fact is that most countries that are poor, and where is not easy to raise a kid (even if it is related to ignorance or bad education) those places have high natality rates.. To be clear, I'm not saying YOU SHOULD, if you can't afford it, I'm saying they do it anyways. I think it's easy for her to state things like that because she probably never had to face a similar problem for herself, but I also think believing everything should be in perfect alignment before having a baby is unprobable. Not defending her posture anyway, and I would always encourage people to NOT have kids if you can't feed them.

  • @tashboog5458

    @tashboog5458

    Жыл бұрын

    The fact of the matter is that (outside of non-consent) pregnancy is a choice for both sexes just period. End of story.

  • @cocoalovelife8849

    @cocoalovelife8849

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly, its sad... now shes raising a BLACK male in america smh

  • @memsysr

    @memsysr

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@tashboog5458 no it's only a woman's choice nowadays

  • @darkymana3735

    @darkymana3735

    Жыл бұрын

    Very well said @meghan Luhowy Close-minded people measure the world By there only experience... Even if they are the 1% of a cases

  • @WillowFrancais
    @WillowFrancais Жыл бұрын

    Kaylee came across as so comfortable in her own privilege, that it just didn’t compute to her that some people do struggle and that for some people it’s valid.

  • @mariaygonzalez83

    @mariaygonzalez83

    Жыл бұрын

    How come you didn’t think the same for Jenelle ? Also wouldn’t you say, that there’s exceptions for everything? Not everything/everyone is the rule. Meaning that just because some people do struggle, doesn’t mean others can choose to have kids and not struggle. What she said if there’s 2 ppl in the relationship, there’s more chance of less struggle with being a parent. Just because some say they don’t want kids because they don’t wanna struggle, doesn’t mean there’s not ppl out there who want kids and will provide regardless of circumstances. It’s not being privileged if she had a plan in place, has someone who supports her and they both wanted this. What she saying is you could have this too if you really want it. The same way others are saying “just because u won’t struggle it doesn’t mean others won’t.” Same could be said vice versa and it’s all about how you view things and think.

  • @Lauwit

    @Lauwit

    Жыл бұрын

    "Some"

  • @notovidio

    @notovidio

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mariaygonzalez83 These people are literally programmed and wired differently. No point in having a genuine conversation or debate with them. You’ll end up pulling your hair out trying to make sense of it

  • @crystaleuwing8411

    @crystaleuwing8411

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mariaygonzalez83 okay but the problem is some people don't want to struggle.. I think that was the whole point

  • @jewel8439

    @jewel8439

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mariaygonzalez83 ​What privilege? She’s a s*x traffic victim who is busy raising a son who she didn’t ask for. Holding them to the same standard is wild. I think everyone in the comments is overlooking how the feminists are the most privileged here, no not because they are men but because they have been educated properly and weren’t brainwashed by bad people

  • @Hardawayfits
    @Hardawayfits4 ай бұрын

    As a woman in construction I find this debate so intriguing 😅 Dear anti feminist come to construction and see why some feminist are feminist 😂

  • @christophervibe7430

    @christophervibe7430

    3 ай бұрын

    Why Bcuz of the way guys may treat u in the work force? U can’t use that and say that’s y ur a feminist. That’s like me sayin I work with triple K members and now I’m a liberal. Just Bcuz there’s bad ppl around u doesn’t mean society as a whole encourages or condones their behavior just like America doesn’t condone the actions of the triple k

  • @Hardawayfits

    @Hardawayfits

    3 ай бұрын

    @@christophervibe7430 Definitely not the reason I'm a feminist. It's because of my father. But go off.

  • @RJsermon

    @RJsermon

    2 ай бұрын

    I assume that you're being coddled and you have no idea.

  • @Hardawayfits

    @Hardawayfits

    2 ай бұрын

    @@RJsermon Interesting assumption 🤣😅😂

  • @joshualoveday
    @joshualoveday6 ай бұрын

    Sorry, I cannot take the red hot air balloon seriously. She has the greatest issues of the entire panel but is somehow an expert on all topics. What a joke.

  • @luvbombz
    @luvbombz Жыл бұрын

    I couldn’t imagine janelle having actual conversations with people in real life. She just likes to hear herself talk

  • @gracieexx

    @gracieexx

    Жыл бұрын

    she talks soo much omg

  • @jasondutton2531

    @jasondutton2531

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s a feminine trait though. Women talk far more than men do

  • @sohailayawari9547

    @sohailayawari9547

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely frustrating

  • @armyb140

    @armyb140

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​​@@jasondutton2531 While men talk over women at work and don't even pay attention to their attribution to solve a problem that may occur. Little incel you don't know sh1t.

  • @gracieexx

    @gracieexx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasondutton2531 i have never seen anyone talk as much as her though and none of it made any sense 🫣

  • @gloriapetrac
    @gloriapetrac Жыл бұрын

    Jenelle is able to dress that way thanks to feminism, but she obviously isn’t ready for that conversation yet.

  • @Thisissilly222

    @Thisissilly222

    Жыл бұрын

    And her KZread channel about being sex positive, feminism helped the world become more sex positive and open about sex

  • @edp-xo1on

    @edp-xo1on

    Жыл бұрын

    You do realise that was first and second wave feminism third wave feminism is a disaster to the modern world and is deteriorating the world third wave feminism must go its an extreme movement that has nothing to do with feminism. Women and men have equal rights in 2023

  • @worlore1651

    @worlore1651

    Жыл бұрын

    Feminism has come too far. If you want real civil rights why don’t women get drafted too?

  • @atgrandfathersknee3065

    @atgrandfathersknee3065

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Thisissilly222 Sex positivity is a result of capitalism and globalism. The world, as a whole, does not care about feminism. Feminism is a western concept, that isn't really relevant in most of the western world.

  • @bluenomadbruh

    @bluenomadbruh

    Жыл бұрын

    100% !!! Either she is a hypocrite or just ignorant about history.

  • @aster_11
    @aster_1111 күн бұрын

    These women are so privileged to talk about a topic in the way they are.

  • @mybootscamewithoutstraps
    @mybootscamewithoutstraps3 күн бұрын

    This one was a bit wild. It really seemed like a couple of the anti-feminist points were hyper niche experiences to justify an overall belief, and instead of recognizing that there's overarching things going on that data showcases, they'll just continue to hyper focus on the niche and run with it.

  • @olivia-nx8xf
    @olivia-nx8xf Жыл бұрын

    i need jannelles confidence. homegirl will fully spew blatant misinformation with her entire chest, its remarkable

  • @melodiejobinmcinnis6558

    @melodiejobinmcinnis6558

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s the implants

  • @olivia-nx8xf

    @olivia-nx8xf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@melodiejobinmcinnis6558 the chemicals from the silicone impacts seeps into your blood and then melts your brain no it’s true it’s true

  • @JakeThatMan

    @JakeThatMan

    Жыл бұрын

    What misinformation?

  • @doeeyes2

    @doeeyes2

    Жыл бұрын

    I dont think that chest is actually hers

  • @proathiest

    @proathiest

    Жыл бұрын

    Its called "audacity"

  • @Cantrona
    @Cantrona9 ай бұрын

    My favourite moment was when Alex was like "Why wouldn't I [take male birth control]?" and she was like " Why don't you get a vicectomy?" and he replied "I did." Mic. Drop.

  • @adamjuneau6287

    @adamjuneau6287

    8 ай бұрын

    the Beta boys are coming.

  • @matts1166

    @matts1166

    6 ай бұрын

    There was a news article about 2 years ago about the clinical trials of male birth control. More than a few self-described feminists were denouncing it. They were pissed because there were too few side effects. No, seriously. They were mad because it had less side effects than women's version, and thus "unfair".

  • @paollus8575

    @paollus8575

    5 ай бұрын

    But who dropped the mix tho ?

  • @al-imranadore1182

    @al-imranadore1182

    5 ай бұрын

    Condoms work fine, vasectomy works perfectly, male birth control is just unnecessary.

  • @mckchillin

    @mckchillin

    5 ай бұрын

    @@paollus8575Alex

  • @FordSkilled
    @FordSkilled6 ай бұрын

    No one can outshine Amala. She's too smart and she studies up.

  • @coco-kl3xr

    @coco-kl3xr

    3 ай бұрын

    All male feminist did,I didn't even notice she was there till you point out

  • @FordSkilled

    @FordSkilled

    3 ай бұрын

    @@coco-kl3xr obviously you’re lying but okay.

  • @coco-kl3xr

    @coco-kl3xr

    3 ай бұрын

    @@FordSkilled she literally made no point just asked 1 or 2 question that's it

  • @FordSkilled

    @FordSkilled

    3 ай бұрын

    @@coco-kl3xr “literally”? You don’t know that that word means apparently.

  • @anusha2222

    @anusha2222

    Ай бұрын

    she studied? If she actually studied she would know that women out there are not more privileged then men lmao

  • @rxse5042
    @rxse50422 ай бұрын

    Janelle: I don’t believe in taking birth control or anything that alters my body Also her: 👁️ 👁️ 👄 🏀🏀

  • @UnravelingArchitecture
    @UnravelingArchitecture Жыл бұрын

    I actually really appreciate when Jubilee editors keep the moments when the producers/directors try to keep the conversation on track. It's really easy to just edit these moments out in post-production. But I think seeing reactions of the participants is really telling. Also it's interesting to see when producers/directors in Jubilee feel the need to interrupt.

  • @Pikawarps

    @Pikawarps

    Жыл бұрын

    They edit out hours of content, i would prefer if they edit out producers, it’s not about them.

  • @MadRodriguez

    @MadRodriguez

    Жыл бұрын

    its the best

  • @oConshien

    @oConshien

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes moderator is a part of a debate

  • @joshuasatterwhite9520

    @joshuasatterwhite9520

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pikawarps we needa jubilee uncut

  • @dusscode

    @dusscode

    Жыл бұрын

    The discussion you are seeing is watered down. They edit out huge chunks, especially controversial parts.

  • @scarlettmclachlin936
    @scarlettmclachlin936 Жыл бұрын

    I need John and Amala to sit down and do this alone. I feel like I would come out with PhD level insight. Seriously.

  • @tanushritashas9856

    @tanushritashas9856

    Жыл бұрын

    a proper intellectual debate

  • @elsai1926

    @elsai1926

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeaaass omfg

  • @Bee-cm5md

    @Bee-cm5md

    Жыл бұрын

    this.

  • @genevievehernandez1595

    @genevievehernandez1595

    Жыл бұрын

    need this

  • @marcalinewampire2102

    @marcalinewampire2102

    Жыл бұрын

    yessss

  • @vdt-gh4
    @vdt-gh46 ай бұрын

    I was getting insane second-hand embarrassment from Janelle trying to hit on Daniel 😭😭☠

  • @user-zw8vi1pl9y
    @user-zw8vi1pl9y3 ай бұрын

    Wow, that was a big topic ! And very intresting thank you !! But It was aslo very difficult to watch and for other reasons than just having ideas being challenged ... It was hard to have people being so immersed in there point of view that they cut each other mid sentence. The mediator did a great job to have reminders of trying to have equal chances to express themself ! bBut I wonder if it could help to have a systematic input about non violent talking ahead of the video ( But maybe there 's already one off camera ), even a "talking stick" in the video as we call it were I'm from ( something that people will have to give too each other each time they want to speak so that the ony people speaking are to ones having this thing before giving it to the person having something to say ) or just a "safe word" for when they are being interut ? But, regardless of this, thank you for your work, all the great ideas and energie your speading with your videos !

  • @JJ-ok1vf
    @JJ-ok1vf Жыл бұрын

    35:07 is the best interaction Torrie: "are you saying that to please the feminists?" Alex: "please myself?" Torrie: "male feminists tend to have the talking points but do you actually think you would [get male birth control]?" Alex: "why wouldn't i?" Torrie: "why don't you get a vasectomy" Alex: "i did"

  • @Torshaa

    @Torshaa

    Жыл бұрын

    HE SHOWED ME LOL

  • @excelself

    @excelself

    Жыл бұрын

    He took himself out of the gene pool! We need more Make Feminist follow his example!

  • @susu_peaceo4887

    @susu_peaceo4887

    Жыл бұрын

    I WAS SO HAPPY BRUH... OWNED THEM

  • @Thatgirly777

    @Thatgirly777

    Жыл бұрын

    YESSS

  • @sabrinahope7794

    @sabrinahope7794

    Жыл бұрын

    @@excelself You should follow his lead!

  • @pewpewww13
    @pewpewww13 Жыл бұрын

    i already know this is gonna be chaotic

  • @Lilhajxjk274

    @Lilhajxjk274

    Жыл бұрын

    And funny

  • @nas19281

    @nas19281

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lilhajxjk274 and infuriating

  • @Zythus07

    @Zythus07

    Жыл бұрын

    Think this is chaotic, imagine how "Male Anti-feminists vs. Female Feminists" would be like...

  • @frosty5651

    @frosty5651

    Жыл бұрын

    0:07 Beliefs like this are codified in religious doctrine of Abrahamic origin like Islam , Judaism and Christianity, the same people calling themselves feminists will turn a blind eye to the misogyny in religion, especially when said religion is of a minority

  • @Iluvepetunias

    @Iluvepetunias

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, unsurprisingly the anti side was literally so transphobic

  • @moniqua9123
    @moniqua91236 ай бұрын

    Thank you for these men to standing up for women, that's real men in my optic!

  • @yagmur.karagoz
    @yagmur.karagoz4 ай бұрын

    I dont think these women have been in career based places AT ALL. I am a woman engineer and we never taken seriously but when a male friend of my say the SAME thing for me, everyone starts to agree. This is not just my experience, almost every women go through this. I can not believe her AUDACITY to say 'If i wanted to be a CEO i would' as if she tried before as a woman. She have may gotten what she wanted in her life but not every women wants her path.

  • @RJsermon

    @RJsermon

    2 ай бұрын

    It's because you're most likely worse. Or you don't know how to properly navigate

  • @yagmur.karagoz

    @yagmur.karagoz

    2 ай бұрын

    @@RJsermon You have no idea who I am and I am speaking for every women in this industry. Its a fact. Are you a woman in stem?

  • @la1z33
    @la1z33 Жыл бұрын

    Jenelle really said "I'm not interested in putting anything that alters my body" in response to birth control pills.

  • @cranburrey

    @cranburrey

    Жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile her breasts…..

  • @josegarza7719

    @josegarza7719

    Жыл бұрын

    Funny you say that. She looks like she has implants.

  • @DavidW-ng5zv

    @DavidW-ng5zv

    Жыл бұрын

    Male birth control is a joke, men shouldn't take it.

  • @defmo8

    @defmo8

    Жыл бұрын

    😂 yeah I was looking for someone to comment the same thing.

  • @aldubm2234

    @aldubm2234

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, birth control pills alter hormone production which definitely alters the body. But ya I didn’t like that woman

  • @karennn3
    @karennn3 Жыл бұрын

    Jenelle is very delulu. Also people are forgetting that having certain privileges as a woman vary. If you don’t fall into society’s standard of beauty then your “privileges” are revoked.

  • @morgane.n

    @morgane.n

    Жыл бұрын

    Delulu😂

  • @cameerkat

    @cameerkat

    Жыл бұрын

    What is delulu?

  • @morgane.n

    @morgane.n

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cameerkat delusional

  • @totalrko

    @totalrko

    Жыл бұрын

    ironic that a Karen said this

  • @ceeIoc

    @ceeIoc

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah, ugly women can still get a guy locked up by lying.

  • @freshpinkapples7618
    @freshpinkapples761812 күн бұрын

    I love how supportive and chill John was with Janelle. He was just trying to make her think of things another way. I really respect that!

  • @alexspicemen4076
    @alexspicemen4076Ай бұрын

    the dad is super wise and calm at his core for no reason, truly inspirational.

  • @eaaronross
    @eaaronross8 ай бұрын

    Hurt my heart so much when Jennelle said "I still see a woman". She was just looking to twist the knife and it was so cold :(

  • @PENH5428

    @PENH5428

    8 ай бұрын

    Amala knew immediately

  • @Rossuke1

    @Rossuke1

    7 ай бұрын

    no bro cause she wouldn't be saying that if she didn't know too it's infuriating :( justice for Mason

  • @lulugreen3588

    @lulugreen3588

    7 ай бұрын

    Literally I was so mad

  • @joetoto2331

    @joetoto2331

    7 ай бұрын

    Snowflake

  • @reymki

    @reymki

    7 ай бұрын

    @@joetoto2331 that's all you dawg

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