did this conversation help you find empathy with the other side?

@God-gi9iu

Жыл бұрын

Fortnite

@thekulaura

Жыл бұрын

no Edit- 1k likes for a single syllable? Jeez

@flashstar1234

Жыл бұрын

No

@flashstar1234

Жыл бұрын

Middleground ideas: Male Feminists vs Female Antifeminists Creationist Christians vs Evolutionist Christians Pro-life democrats vs Pro-choice democrats Pro-life republicans vs Pro-choice republicans Pro-life democrats vs Pro-choice republicans

@littlebear15647

Жыл бұрын

It helped me understand the other side.

"Feminism means I can't be a housewife" is such a terminally online take.

@suleydaman

9 ай бұрын

You might think this is a hottake, but I literally know feminists who think housewife = slavery and the fact that women still want to do it, a sign that we havent ovethrown pateiarchy

@an-me

9 ай бұрын

That whole anti feminist side is terminally online. They didn’t even take to time to try and understand the other side either, they also thought that because they didn’t like the feminist, the feminist would dislike them as well which shows by how hostile they were.

@austinsmith2808

9 ай бұрын

@@an-meboth sides are terminally online. They both suck

@clarkkent4665

9 ай бұрын

"Not being feminist means you want women to be paid less"

@HughMungousPC

9 ай бұрын

She didn't say that at all. She said she got back-lash when wanting to be a house wife. I think misrepresenting what someone says is a terminally online take.

Why do people think that you can't both be a feminist AND a stay at home mom? You can be both.

@barbymadison878

Жыл бұрын

Because it's all about appeasing the male ego

@whitneypickle

Жыл бұрын

@@barbymadison878 what is?

@wiseguy240Winston

Жыл бұрын

@Barby Madison No it isn't, that seems like something a woman would say if she's insecure about how others will look at her. Nike wants to be a housewife of her own choice or are you going to ignore and disregard a fellow woman's words when they don't match up with your idea of feminism? 🤔

@fearfullywonderfullymade691

Жыл бұрын

Because a lot of feminist are hostile towards women who value traditional feminine roles

@whitneypickle

Жыл бұрын

@@fearfullywonderfullymade691 when women are forced to be stay at home moms, then yeah, it is an issue. I am absolutely not traditional at all, but I CHOOSE to stay home with my son. It's where I'm happiest. But if I wanted to work outside of the home, that's what I would do. If I had a high paying job and my husband wanted to stay home, I'd support that. It's about equality and the freedom to choose in my family what we want to do. My husband doesn't rule the roost.

The fact that Arielle said that the friend of Riki that she shouldn’t have “spread her legs” to not get pregnant, the fact that Riki had to say that her friend was r*ped was a bombshell, Arielle should’ve thought a bit longer before making those comments

@camoply

4 ай бұрын

when was this in the video? i cant find it :((((

@gabriellagalli8564

4 ай бұрын

@@camoply 31:25

@Pidatha

2 ай бұрын

Why is it a "bombshell"? If you consented to sèx, it's perfectly reasonable to say you need to take responsibility for the resulting pregnancy. It's an entirely different scenario in case of assault

@Pidatha

2 ай бұрын

@@Ah_Be That's Where we disagree. The innocent child shouldn't have to pay with its life for your choice to have sèx

@nasrinnski

2 ай бұрын

Weird that she had to bring up her transwoman friend to garner sympathy and then demeaning someone else's friend story lol

She ate her up w the “we heard a lot about your mother what about you” like yessss thank u

All of Nike's points were made out of her childhood trauma... Her problem isn't with feminism, it's with the parents that weren't there for her

@aiya7325

5 ай бұрын

literally, its all personal issues..

@MP-il8ys

5 ай бұрын

Exactly, it seemed like she should be talking to a therapist about this rather than projecting her issues with her mom onto the entire movement.

@Lemmeknowlemmeknow

5 ай бұрын

I don’t see this at all

@CKS475

5 ай бұрын

Exactly

@chewycherries

5 ай бұрын

​@@Lemmeknowlemmeknow One example, she said in the video that she was very conflicted when it came to abortion because externally, her mother was very pro abortion/choice, but at the same time, she told her daughters that they should never get one

As a woman, this discussion was exhausting.

@anaiahevans1540

Жыл бұрын

Yes, like Isabella just didnt know how ignorant she is

@Lightguardian_HOH

Жыл бұрын

@@anaiahevans1540 She wasn't ignorant what are you talking about?

@buttercup4929hl

Жыл бұрын

@@anaiahevans1540 as a woman, Isabella spoke facts.

@anaiahevans1540

Жыл бұрын

@@Lightguardian_HOH watch it again and see what i mean

@gigachad1021

Жыл бұрын

Dont matter woman moment

I’m a feminist and I don’t think the definition of feminism has ever changed, I think people have changed their perspectives on it and get misinformed and misinterpreted a lot

@jessicasousa9301

3 ай бұрын

nah, it was a group of feminists who didn’t understand the whole point of equal rights. If that happen within the movement, then don’t act like it was the people outside of the movement who misunderstood everything. 😉

@VideoGamesAndTheWorld

3 ай бұрын

Many feminists have caused the feminist movement to be seen as a negative with all the buzzwords like "manspreading" and "mansplaining". Not to mention many of them are the kind to hate both men and boys.

@HeathKirby1

2 ай бұрын

Feminism is not about equality anymore

@dannielle..

2 ай бұрын

i agree. the definition of feminism has not changed. people have just been misinformed and are not understanding the difference between feminism and what people claim to be feminism

@smithsunleashed

2 ай бұрын

@@jessicasousa9301maybe there were more vocal and louder, but that doesn’t mean you generalize all feminist as radical feminists

My idea of feminism is choice. You have the choice to be a CEO; you have the choice of being a stay at home mom. You get to decide what you do, which is why I believe everyone should be a feminist. We all deserve the choice of what we want to do in life.

@sarahnewton2550

2 ай бұрын

Don’t guys have that choice too?

@autumnrose9655

2 ай бұрын

@@sarahnewton2550 yes. Everyone deserves the choice, no matter their race, gender, or any of that.

@benjamincharlton1388

2 ай бұрын

I think in a way, it also gives men more choices, as it breaks down a patriarchal structure, it opens up more options, such as stay at home dad, while being shunned less :]

@LindaMerritt-tk7tu

2 ай бұрын

​@@benjamincharlton1388true and not to feel bad about his choice.

@LindaMerritt-tk7tu

2 ай бұрын

​@@sarahnewton2550how the one blamed her mother for tearing down and emasculating her father.

ISABELLA IS SO RIDICULOUS HAHAHA. shes like “well if i was never affected by it, it never existed”

@justicedoesntexist1919

7 ай бұрын

major mean girl vibe. and guess who mean girls appease and bully?

@misanthrophex

5 ай бұрын

@@justicedoesntexist1919 you think she's mean? try knowing that 2+2=4, but we live in a "truth" where 2+2= anything but 4, and if you try to claim that 2+2 = 4, you're gonna be in trouble.

@thomasallisonstabler3478

4 ай бұрын

The opposite of that is also true. There are those on the feminist side that say, because it happened to me, it’s all that exist and they apply their blanket to it.

@Localyellowasian

Ай бұрын

@@misanthrophexsrry but i don’t get it 😭

@RockSmithStudio

Ай бұрын

Found the future cat owner 😂

when isabella said "i don't care!" and all the feminists were like "of course, you don't have to care" and she almost didn't get it ☠

@Noone-qy8eh

10 ай бұрын

It wasn't almost, it was she didn't get it entirely

@Kitsunekone

10 ай бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but are you saying she has white privilege?

@sea_of_love

10 ай бұрын

@@Kitsunekone yeah and just the privilege of being an upper middle class woman in america

@Kitsunekone

10 ай бұрын

@@sea_of_love Gotcha.

@zainjal26

10 ай бұрын

@@sea_of_lovewhat’s white prívelage? Black privelage is breaking laws and being called victim

“we heard a lot about your mom, but what about you?” GAGGED 😂😂😂

@greatapebroly

12 күн бұрын

I AM A WOMAN

Isabella: white women privilege, if I don’t experience it, it doesn’t exist Nike: mommy issues Arielle: just wants beef Jill: white women privilege pt 2

@Bungycb

Ай бұрын

Trans women aren’t real women

@Zyrock

11 күн бұрын

The feminists: daddy issues, deep rooted hatred towards men

this video really demonstrates how you could never win an argument against ignorant people lol

@averyisaiah1

Жыл бұрын

Yes modern feminists are very ignorant.

@jimbob7382

Жыл бұрын

Completely

@Death-999

Жыл бұрын

You can definitely win arguments against ignorant people, they usually stop responding or block you, I've had many feminists do that when they realise they have no chance against my big brain when all they bring are their incorrect regurgitated quotes. Let's look at these people, they're feminists so sure they're correct they'll go on a show and debate and what do they bring "they're a clump of cells", like how little debate have they ever done that they would STILL use that pathetic quote? Everyone is a clump of cells. That's the immediate thing everyone would say to that, you don't even need to be anti feminist to figure that out, yet they still say it, it's pathetic lol

@charlotteparker2051

Жыл бұрын

Literally

@jimbob7382

Жыл бұрын

@@Death-999 so we as human beings are equivalent to something which doesn’t even have the ability to form a thought are you vegan ? Have you ever walked on grass because essentially it’s the same thing a baby is completely different to a foetus if you don’t agree you haven’t been to school and if you have go back

isabella is the perfect example of believing that if it doesn’t affect her it doesn’t exist.

@Alan_the_Red

Жыл бұрын

Nope plenty of people live without this nonsense. As they should. We should all be more like Isabella.

@bald_flop8063

Жыл бұрын

She’s so ignorant it was infuriating. She lives in a very thick bubble

@kenkar7181

Жыл бұрын

@@Alan_the_Red guys are always trying to stick their nose in women’s business . Bye

@Changed.User100

Жыл бұрын

Shes the only woman I respected during the whole conversation

@assilehasan954

Жыл бұрын

When she said "I don't even think that I'm not being represented even in ads, I don't care" that's when I knew she had 0 regard for other people's feelings and views. And there's no way you can convince someone so inherently selfish otherwise.

From Nigeria but you don't believe in the patriarchy? That's CRAZY.

@meritvickie4550

3 ай бұрын

Seriously, she needs a lot of therapy. Sounds like she just want to distance herself from whatever identity her mother held

@nasrinnski

2 ай бұрын

Same country with the rise of fgm, forced marriages... 😭

@thatboygio8843

Ай бұрын

She was a lawyer and a ceo of her own company and your talking about patriarchy 😂

@Bungycb

Ай бұрын

Trans women aren’t real women

@imrankb022

28 күн бұрын

Define patriarchy

Riki is so eloquent and calm, she was literally so calm throughout and never went for personal attacks

@satisfiedatheist8762

4 ай бұрын

Dogma is still dogma even when it is articulately expressed

@mimitabiswas4534

4 ай бұрын

@@satisfiedatheist8762 she didn't have any extreme dogma unlike the antis, and like I said she didn't come for anybody

@satisfiedatheist8762

4 ай бұрын

You might want to watch this again. She asserts (hence dogma) there is no scientist who would agree with Male and Female no being a reality which is complete nonsense. She won’t accept any suggestion that many credible peer review studies contradict her (and she doesn’t countenance the idea that she is misinterpreting what she might have read). There are of course many instances of Intersex but that does not mean male and female don’t exist and that sex is a spectrum - they are simply other, albeit very rare, chromosomal arrangements.

@mimitabiswas4534

4 ай бұрын

@@satisfiedatheist8762 give me timestamp

@satisfiedatheist8762

4 ай бұрын

Around 39 mins I think

Isabella is a clear example of the "it doesn't exists because it hasn't happened to me" mentality.

@ladygogie8887

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@cancelled_user

Жыл бұрын

Just like when feminists try to prove "oppression" by "well, it once happened to me that ...."

@mytypeshi

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY, her privilege is so unsettling to see

@woodywu931

Жыл бұрын

that's just a classic example of internally referenced person vs externally referenced person.

@juandelahoz4577

Жыл бұрын

I can't, she exudes privilege with every word she speaks

I've never felt the producers feel as uncomfortable as they were in this episode.

@TeddyHeartSweet

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@MrMissplaced

Жыл бұрын

100%

@nicholassimmons9066

Жыл бұрын

you’re only saying that cuz your trans. lol they probably loved this.

@ongakira

Жыл бұрын

they were probably more irritated than uncomfortable

@bellez6425

Жыл бұрын

yeah, i've never heard them have to tell a person to let the other one speak

"you can't be connected and sexually attracted to someone's brain" guess that erases my existence then lmaoo

@ada1312

3 ай бұрын

Yes! as a woman that is pan I was like????? I dont care What someones gender is, i dont care if they are cis or trans, i like the person, literally their personality so u could say their brain

@raynabev9632

3 ай бұрын

so glad someone said this. i was literally sitting here thinking “someone needs to explain pan and asexuality to this woman”

@Kattieninja

2 ай бұрын

Literally same. I'm not attracted to bodies, I'm attracted to the souls inside them. I'm 10000% more likely to get turned on by someone showing deep intellectualism from a deep conversation, than looking at someone.

@The_Memorial

2 ай бұрын

@@ada1312so you are attracted to the person. Their appearance, character, personality. You are bisexual. You are not attracted to a brain. You don’t see a 🧠 and be like look at that juicy ouchy pinky brain

@dannielle..

2 ай бұрын

literally i think she’s lost on the difference between sex and gender r

This didnt give what the "male feminists vs. male antifeminist" gave, this just made me sad. Seeing women actively fighting against feminism is so much more counterproductive to the movement, than men actively fighting against feminism.

@saszablaze1

11 күн бұрын

why?

As a teen girl this was horrible to witness.

@HughMungousPC

9 ай бұрын

How horrible, I'm so sad you have to be a female. It must be so awful. lmao

@andjelamisic3070

9 ай бұрын

as a teen girl, this was helpful and it helped me learn a lot more that my parents and school thought me

@HughMungousPC

9 ай бұрын

@@andjelamisic3070 What exactly did it teach you?

@kaitietheukulelelady5645

9 ай бұрын

A discussion?

@andjelamisic3070

9 ай бұрын

@@HughMungousPC It taught me a lot, actually, I wanna call myself a feminist and it helps educate me on certain topics like the inherently racist one... i live in a very sheltered home, and i didn't realize some of these thing

Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child, remember that.

@maybeme8783

Жыл бұрын

yea, 100%, I often feel sad for the children (of future children) of some people I know

@jess6558

Жыл бұрын

What a great saying

@jess6558

Жыл бұрын

This should be apart of the foster care systems values

@AJ-lm5dl

Жыл бұрын

You become a parent the moment you conceive a child in your womb

@imanis.h.8431

Жыл бұрын

We all remember because this saying is everywhere on youtube it’s annoying. On every video where a child is harmed / let down by the parents the top comment is always this exact quote.

The white woman who said she doesn't care about representation. 🤦🏻‍♀️ 🤢

@Bungycb

Ай бұрын

Trans women aren’t real women

Arielle just wanted to fight she wasn't there for a real conversation based on literally the first words out of her mouth and immediately trying to cut off their answer, absolutely not constructive and lost her points entirely because of it.

It’s so weird how the anti-feminists are mentioning that you can’t be feminist and be a housewife at the same time 😭

@yadig876

Жыл бұрын

Well 90% of feminism is about empowering women to not need men. So most of the ideology goes directly against being a great housewife. Not rocket science

@TheDeeman25

Жыл бұрын

Why is it weird? I mean the average feminist would recoil at the thought of being a housewife. I believe feminism gives women the choice to do either but in modern practice that’s not how it seems to shake out.

@katmoonshine145

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDeeman25 i do know a lot of feminists who like the idea

@andysali6884

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDeeman25 nah, the average true feminist would wanna let women do what they choose, even if they choose to be a stay at home mother or housewife

@rhaegarmcavoy1692

Жыл бұрын

@@katmoonshine145 I doubt you say the truth on that.

It's incredible how everything and nothing was said at the same time.

@j-us-t_be-in-g

Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

@passion2177

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly 😂😂😂

@justina2320

Жыл бұрын

I don't think these types of videos are meant to reach a conclusion or any mutual agreement lol, Everyone is just stating their opinion and moving on.

@dalzielholder5184

Жыл бұрын

My thought to a T.

@burningbothwicks

Жыл бұрын

@@justina2320 It doesn’t really matter much if they agree with each other in the end, it’s the bit where everything was “what if’s” and no facts, crappy debate

I will never understand when people say if you had sex and you got pregnant you shouldn’t have an abortion because it’s your choice to have sex (31:36). It gives off the same energy as someone being in a car crash and someone else saying “it was your choice to get in the car”. Not everyone has sex in hopes of getting pregnant.

@latonyanewsome0

3 ай бұрын

Two completely things. You've made no argument.

@nasrinnski

2 ай бұрын

Also, sex involve two person, pregnancy involve one. Sex can be safe, while ppl often underestimate the side of pregnancies for all different women

@VanessaBrown-de3bx

2 ай бұрын

That’s a completely different situation and if you have sex you know the consequences of it.

@hithere3121

2 ай бұрын

@@VanessaBrown-de3bx the way i see it is that you know the potential consequences of getting in a car is being involved in an accident. im also not talking about just having sex, i mean when people are trying to avoid getting pregnant and they use contraceptives. there’s still a chance of pregnancy even if that’s not the goal, just like theres a chance of being in a car accident even if that’s not the goal. i just wanted to clarify how i see it, but i’d love to hear your perspective on it if you are willing to share :)

@TomMcKayBlocksCriticsWhatAJoke

2 ай бұрын

I think the argument is that you shouldn’t end a life that was consensually conceived.

not enough people are talking about how incredibly well spoken Deja is

I'm an Iranian woman. Contrary to Arielle's opinion, feminists did stand up for us! Iraninan feminists! Feminism is not limited to american/western people

@tallard666

Жыл бұрын

Western feminists and western women generally, have spent 40 years silencing all support for Iranian women fighting religious oppression (under the false "Islamophobia). Only since last year, when men also became victims, did western women stand up. And I'm not talking about pockets of support, such as among atheists, I'm talking about generalised support, like 1000s in the streets of Toronto. We can thank men for dying, because when it's only women dying, the world just don't care.

@fabulousdarya9701

Жыл бұрын

Yes!! I'm also an Iranian woman and was taken aback by that comment

@AbuLuLu313

Жыл бұрын

They did so by cutting their hair for photo ops. Lol anyway that was embarrassing af

@Yasi_nzi

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! As an Iranian girl living in Iran, I also have to add that since 1980, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government! On top of that, they receive financial assistance being provided by the government for the sex reassignment surgery. The government also covers the cost of birth certificate and any other certificate change. I wish people like Arielle will learn to at least do a simple search before running their ignorant mouth.

@Teagod77

Жыл бұрын

You bit

I’d love to see male feminist VS female anti feminist

@rubyfransen2522

Жыл бұрын

they already did this, it’s on their page

@justleon721

Жыл бұрын

@@rubyfransen2522 No they didn't. The one they did was males on both sides.

@chittaphonlee10no

Жыл бұрын

But that’s a bit silly, the female anti feminist will just use the same “argument” over and over again; “you’re not a woman, I am”

@khaleeesi

Жыл бұрын

​@@chittaphonlee10noperfect summation

@Glambutfirstcoffee

Жыл бұрын

@@chittaphonlee10no No. That is what radical feminists use

Arielle was so combative and defensive during this whole debate when she didn't even have to be... like chill. I even agreed with some of her points but she overshadowed all that with her tone

"you could go back over there if you really wanted to" the look she gave her

"You know, they (straight white males) don't want to leave their apartment or their house because they're so afraid of women." BFFR 💀

@hannahpoole6215

Жыл бұрын

@@silentsolitude6570cry me a river

@lieutenantcolumbo114

Жыл бұрын

I'm white and i'm not scared of humans :) i'm scared of rats.

@amandapayet1421

Жыл бұрын

@Silent Solitude Why?

@AJ-lm5dl

Жыл бұрын

@@hannahpoole6215 How empathetic and tolerant of you.

@gravemini3248

Жыл бұрын

But there genuinely are you’ll go on about Isabella being ignorant but that is also just ignorance

I love how they kept accidentally circling back to the wrong topic every single time. I didn’t even know what was happening half the time.

@meg-od2bo

Жыл бұрын

The anti feminists somehow made every single prompt about trans women

@pricesymonej

11 ай бұрын

@@meg-od2bo because we can’t even begin to talk about woman’s issues if we can’t first define what a woman is. Bottom line.

@meg-od2bo

11 ай бұрын

@@pricesymonej a woman’s an adult female

@pricesymonej

11 ай бұрын

@@meg-od2bo I agree

@pricesymonej

11 ай бұрын

@@meg-od2bo why yes, yes it is!

Arielle's position of "I'm a lesbian and I have a trans friend" to get away with her transphobic comments is so disgusting

this came out as feminists vs. those who don't understand feminism. we've been fighting for equal rights for so longgg and so much that hearing these anti feminists is not just hurtful but exhausting.

@ashleykimberly4012

Ай бұрын

Literally!!!!

@natalyavalasquez9121

26 күн бұрын

It’s like the anti feminists say you live in the USA what “possible rights” are you missing besides common sense

jubilee was FOUL for cutting off that amazing point; "if they don't have enough money to go get an abortion, what makes you think they'll have enough money to raise the kid." or smthg like that. that is an excellent point that i want answered by the other side.

@americasass3674

Жыл бұрын

Then don’t be having sex. You run the risk

@bingusdingus8239

Жыл бұрын

@@americasass3674 thats not exactly an option if someone is forced to...

@EdmundoAyarzagoitia

Жыл бұрын

@@bingusdingus8239 The vast majority of cases aren’t due to rape

@bingusdingus8239

Жыл бұрын

@@EdmundoAyarzagoitia well it doesn't really matter because those people are out of luck in certain states now

@kaiti3289

Жыл бұрын

@@americasass3674 wow i wish that’s what the women who are r/ped against their will though of, thanks!

“Men stay in their apartments because they are scared of women.” I am LOST FOR WORDS

@audreyoutland1868

Жыл бұрын

Ikr😭😭 I wish that was true 🤞🤞

@james3876

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much why I built my home gym

@sarahprosecco

Жыл бұрын

@@james3876 😂 especially with all those 'ew...omg why are you looking at my butt cheeks hanging out the bottom of my gym shorts(aka hotpants) you pervert!' catch-a-creep videos.

@metothemoon1227

Жыл бұрын

@Audrey Outland Terrible mistake on the contrary women and men complement each other and should not hate and divide and even less be afraid of each other. If so, it's called the fall of a civilization.

@Gayredheadbitch94

Жыл бұрын

Men suffer from the patriarchy, but not the same way women do

I love Deja. She is just so fascinating to listen to. Definitely the highlight of the whole video.

i find it kinda interesting how arielle looked towards her own group and the other group when she would step forward or not step forward for certain questions

Arielle wasn't there to debate she was there to talk AT people. She sat down, instantly asked a question that was nonsensical to the discussion at hand and then proceeded to interupt everyone every chance she got.

@xgoohx

6 ай бұрын

Literally!!!

@boobare5792

6 ай бұрын

She must have a hard time dealing with snowflakes.

@DaniDeFazio-jf5fz

6 ай бұрын

💯💯💯I literally am 2 minutes in and I ran to the comments because she already aggravated me!!! She IMMEDIATELY came in aggressive for no reason! Tryna argue not debate. Smh

@Olivia_b.

6 ай бұрын

@@DaniDeFazio-jf5fzEXACTLY

@bbrriaaanna

6 ай бұрын

2020 called they want their slang back . goofy ah@@boobare5792

I honestly don’t think they will ever be any middle ground in feminism and anti-feminism

@nicopetri3533

Жыл бұрын

I think there could be if reasonable people were invited, but that doesn't generate content and drama. Look at all the Isabelle comments. She was only invited by production so we can rage in the comments.

@artisticbeautybyhanako6801

Жыл бұрын

Radical feminists who detest the devolution of modern feminism would beg to differ

@yes3858

Жыл бұрын

What is middle ground? Majority of people in USA and Europe believe in equal rights. Feminism has changed significantly in the past 50 years

@bubbashursh262

Жыл бұрын

Feminists aren’t very smart same with black movement it’s the same thing it separates us more than brings people together it segregates and excludes people

@Morrow45105

Жыл бұрын

Impossible to find middle ground when the topic is based in delusion

"im a mother of 12 years I know all the hardships of motherhood" hasnt even had to deal with a teenage kid yet

@8rynFarley

Ай бұрын

just because the child isnt fully grown, doesnt AT ALL mean she doesn't know the hardships of being a mother and the future hardships ahead of her. are you a mother?

@Bungycb

Ай бұрын

Trans women aren’t real women

@antoooa8664

15 күн бұрын

Does that make her a lier?

@thegarfieldtavius

2 күн бұрын

No and u are illiterate.

I'm glad that Jill loves motherhood, but it's frustrating to see her and other people insinuate that because they're having an overall great experience, other people's voices are null and void.

damn this episode was insane seeing how much the host had to moderate the conversation

@wyattcole5452

11 ай бұрын

Didn’t even let the conversation have a basis. How are you supposed to talk about women and feminism when nobody knows what a woman is?

@Bocqurant

11 ай бұрын

@@wyattcole5452 One of the first things Arielle asked was to define woman

@wyattcole5452

11 ай бұрын

@@Bocqurant and nobody answered is my point, the mediator said focus on the topic when the topic isn’t secure to everyone, so how can they stay in topic when the definition of woman is up in the air?

@yashicasaun

11 ай бұрын

@@wyattcole5452 she did not let people speak lol

@wyattcole5452

11 ай бұрын

@@yashicasaun the moderator? Yea, when that question was asked she didn’t let People speak unless it was about what she said

12:12 she did not just quote Marilyn Monroe on the patriarchy💀she was abused so much by men

@sumayyahadetunmbi4347

Жыл бұрын

yeah

@starzy154

Жыл бұрын

Like BFFR😤😤

@cassie6781

Жыл бұрын

Poor Marilyn, she can never get a break.

@kawaiidiamond7581

Жыл бұрын

Patriarchy only includes men ? To tell you patriarchy doesn't exist

The way I went HUH for 99 % of what the “antifeminists” said like it’s actually INSANE

@Zyrock

11 күн бұрын

“Tell me ur 14, without telling me ur 14”

@ucouldnevah

7 күн бұрын

@@Zyrocktell me you’re a Republican, without telling me you’re a Republican

The moment the one lady goes "define a woman" and then interrupts the person trying to respond I knew I wasn't gonna be able to sit through this. What a backwards way to discuss/debate 😭

@elise6802

Ай бұрын

Literally it had nothing to do w the prompt, she fully came on this js to be transphobic

“Feminism is anything you want it to be” 22:33. This is the problem. People are fighting over a term that means something completely different to each individual.

@DONSMOKEPAPI

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, it has become an empty word, an excuse to avoid accountability and consequences

@whosminou

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@person-ty7jy

Жыл бұрын

I believe the reason why this statement is so broad is mostly because feminism's definition is broad in itself. Feminism is the concept that men and women should be equal. At first, the fight was mostly about rights, but as our society evolved, it has become a fight for equal opportunities (especially career, society and safety opportunities) and lately we did devolve in human rights with roe v wade, so it's important to keep feminism alive and keep evolving, not devolving.

@-caspo-

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I find that a lot of disagreements come from differences in definitions. If you are going to have a serious conversation about a certain topic, you have to define the terms related to that topic, otherwise you can just go in circles all day.

@emmyaram7001

Жыл бұрын

I agree. A lot of the arguments were about things that most people fundamentally agree on, just with a lack of understanding. But generally, there are two ways I see it defined; an equality movement focused on correcting inequalities for women, and ideas generally held by people who are feminists. I believe the feminists viewed the word more as the former definition and the anti-feminists viewed the word as the latter.

The model-esque white woman saying how she doesn’t care about being represented after another woman just complained about not seeing diverse women in ads was gold. 😂

@FIREcrochethairstyles

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! So clueless

@phoebescott6787

Жыл бұрын

Literally! Like she is not the one being underrepresented of course she wouldn't care 🤣

@alexharper7645

Жыл бұрын

@@phoebescott6787 🤣🤣 There’s way more then enough diversity in ads.

@ecstasy5022

Жыл бұрын

@@phoebescott6787 anyone with real life problems wouldn't care. caring about such silly things screams first world problems.

@shortstoriesforadults5192

Жыл бұрын

yall probably look like Shrek with this mindset

‘It’s a choice to be a housewife’ you can be that while being a *FEMINIST* too?!

isabella throughout this WHOLE episode was very much “if i don’t see it and if it doesn’t negatively effect my life it’s not happening. it’s not a big deal” vibes and that was WILD especially coming from teen parents

Isabella is so blinded by her own experience that she refuses to sympathize with people who actually face issues due to their identity

@whatisnext2955

Жыл бұрын

Shes proving a point and i think she knows how to get into ur head and take advantage.

@logicandemma8474

Жыл бұрын

This comment needs to elaborate more on what it's trying to say.

@foreverrocks7989

Жыл бұрын

She don't have to. The problem is the expectation to do so. Nobody is obligated to fit the mold of expectations set by others 😪

@turqussy

Жыл бұрын

she thinks everybody was always equal and just want to fight. because yeah i always saw people as people not their race or gender or etc. but not everyone had been especially men in power hundreds of years ago. they saw anyone different from them and hurt them (all wars and genocides) and those people have been put down for years. so thats why we fight so everyone can be seen as equal its what we want. ignoring all that past abuse and dehumanizing events is ignorant.

@juliekennedy9891

Жыл бұрын

That happened on the other side as well--especially when Jill was speaking about how she felt when pregnant.

As an Iranian girl, what Arielle said wasn't true. Iranian men and women are standing for equality. But the dictatorial government is the issue

@LuciKaede

Жыл бұрын

I interpeted her comment in a way like what are western feminists doing for Iranian fight for equality, but I may be wrong.. Either way, I really hope Iranian people win the fight and get their freedom back! Much love from Croatia!

@SmileG333

Жыл бұрын

She was talking about western feminist not supporting Iran.Although I'd still disagree with her because I did see a lot of western support unlike the case with french muslim women.

@arielle

Жыл бұрын

Correct.

@noahfence6838

Жыл бұрын

@@LuciKaede They’re speaking up, talking about it, bringing light to the issues, and identifying the women who are actively fighting and have died doing so. What more can western women do? Physically go to Iran and beat up the government?

@dissident3227

Жыл бұрын

Feminists IN AMERICA don’t care

arielle using each prompt as an opportunity to be transphobic is absolutely appalling she just. kept. doing. it.

@sisuluca13

4 ай бұрын

Honestly she was just a W

@4kteli

4 ай бұрын

men cannot become women just be saying they are.

@crypkid2276

4 ай бұрын

​@@sisuluca13W for weirdo. An obsessed weirdo who has so much hatred in her heart that she needs to bring up her distain for a group of people who has done nothing wrong but just exist and advocating for their basic rights into every conversation.

@AstroMaja22

4 ай бұрын

​@@sisuluca13 wtf dif trans people do to you?

@milleniomc983

4 ай бұрын

​@@AstroMaja22Lie to others about who they REALLY are, pretending they're something they're not just because they feel lust over Love. Choosing they're opinion over Truth.. conditioning children to choose feelings over logic, opinions over facts. Staining the image of what a real WOMAN is and causing psychological damage to themselves and others around them. Use their feelings to get their way... now causing Heterosexuals to lose privileges of adoption and other freedoms simply because it doesn't support their agenda. 🙂🙃🙂

I just love that when someone is starting to get a point across and starting to make sense they are ever so quickly to change the subject

One of my biggest pet peeves is getting interrupted and not being able to finish what I was saying. I would have lost it in every one of them.

@bubbashursh262

Жыл бұрын

😂🤣

@monikamalinowski

Жыл бұрын

yes!! it's extremely disrespectful and if I was there they would've been yelled at because you need to let me FINISH my point before starting yours. You'd think adults could have healthy discourse but no, everytime there's confrontation and disagreements certain people become gradeschool kids again

@shana_sakai

Жыл бұрын

YES!

@shana_sakai

Жыл бұрын

@@monikamalinowski true

@_Izanamiyuki_

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!! 💯

Nike really needs to go to therapy to resolve her issues with her mom

@nonjabulomangoro1871

Жыл бұрын

And stop blaming her mom for her father's inadequacies

@ElectricPansies

Жыл бұрын

Her logic that her mother was too strong so her dad had to become a couch potato really confused me.

@wildninjaturtle6715

Жыл бұрын

Way to show your racism, gtfo of here with your white condescending privilege

@FieryMaQ

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricPansies how? She’s saying her Mom emasculated her Dad.

@pixie158

Жыл бұрын

definitely

As someone who lived in the Middle East, Central Asia and Southeast Asia, I can say that the American feminists are sooo privileged and if they think they are genuine in their agenda they need to step up to help the women who are really struggling in less privileged places instead of fighting who should be able to show their chests.

@Gurlstfu44

5 ай бұрын

This needs to be seen, American women are so privileged and try to act like they’re oppressed. They have no idea what other females in different countries deal with. It’s so sad

@strawberryshortcake5505

3 ай бұрын

ikr. its utter insanity that we place so much emphasis on american feminism when there are so many other parts of the world where its still like the middle ages for women. why isnt it talked about enough?

@32.saibahelal21

3 ай бұрын

​​@@strawberryshortcake5505it is. The men's video of feminist vs anti centred around dating while by women was based heavily on personal experiences. I truly felt like I wasted my time trying to understand their mind process because I can't, they live in a bubble of so-called problems and some people from both the groups sounded pretty indoctrined to me.

@GandalfOfRivia

3 ай бұрын

It is normal that people primarily care about what they are closest to and most familiar with. Plus, the fact that it's not like Afghanistan doesn't mean there isn't still work to be done.

@sandboxlover2078

2 ай бұрын

@@strawberryshortcake5505maybe because they are feminists living in America. They can’t and shouldn’t speak on issues they dont know about. It’s not fair to gaslight or dismiss people’s experiences because of the country they live in

i think "non feminists" forget that feminists don't hate men, we really don't hate them we just wanna be recognized as being just as enough as them. if you want to be a house wife and a mother that should never ever stop you from being a feminist, degrading yourself down to say that is what is stopping you is ALMOST like saying (in my opinion) you don't even want a say in what happens in your house hold, that you just want to give up your say in anything happening around you. its sad to see other women give up their own choices because they just "don't care". you dont have to agree with every single thing down to the T.

@anestassia6346

3 ай бұрын

Saying being a housewife/ mother is degrading to women is disgusting. Also, you see it everywhere with the current feminist movement “men suck”, “we’re don’t need men”, “I hate men”… especially hatred towards whites men

@sadie7994

2 күн бұрын

Exactly I appreciate men but it is not acceptable to constantly look down on women

Arielle making every single prompt a trans issue and not allowing anyone to speak really shows why she was there..

@reberrabon_bon

Жыл бұрын

Even after we were done she just would NOT stop

@Emerance_

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@controversial_7

Жыл бұрын

But it has to be taken that side. Trans is the next female

@salaamboss5961

Жыл бұрын

No riki was not allowing anyone to speak. And she kept speaking and was so wrong about so many things Edit: who is here after Olympics banned transgenders from competitions in female track?

@jamesmichael9341

Жыл бұрын

Feminists are loud, masculine and annoying. Gotta speak over them to get a point across. Being judged for being white will cause you to speak louder and more. Just like I would expect if I judged a black person for being black.

I honestly feel like Arielle and Isabella made this discussion so hostile when it didn't have to be.

@dominiquebradley897

Жыл бұрын

They did…like they really felt the need to say how everything and everyone was wrong like they did NOT come here for “middle ground”

@nasien

Жыл бұрын

Arielle was speaking the most facts, though

@nocturnalwolf7559

Жыл бұрын

It was needed.

@alexbernard6220

Жыл бұрын

​@@avamacky2793I'm with you on they're tactics being overly aggressive, but to say that had no factual arguments, I mean come on bruh lol. It's OK to be wrong sometimes we can all learn from eachother, even progressives can calm it down a little lol

@coucoukiana

Жыл бұрын

@@nasien ur a male. Sit this one out. Ur opinion isnt valid

I could listen to Deja and Riki talk for hours

I noticed how Arielle almost agrees with the feminist a couple times, and then looks back to see if the Antifeminist agree, and then changes her mind if they don’t agree. Thats follower behavior in my opinion

when riki said “i shouldn’t have to tell you that story for you to understand that there are certain things that you have not experienced that oppress other people”🔥

@lieutenantcolumbo114

Жыл бұрын

"Patriarchy" as an oppressive and misogynistic system is a pure creation of late-sixties radical feminism. It does not exist as such and it is contradicted by evolutionary biology, history and anthropology, as long as one bases oneself on factual data and not on the deconstructivist ideology of gender studies. "Oppressive patriarchy" is a mystification that the following articles each explore in their own way. It must be said and said again: the victim paradigm according to which the history of male/female relations is part of a vertical relationship of "male domination" is an intellectual imposture and an ideological construction resulting from the radical feminism of the end of the 1990s. sixties. Prior to the 1960s, the concept of "patriarchy" did not exist.

@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw

Жыл бұрын

Than by that logic they can’t speak up for poor women who get pregnant

@Donyalicious

Жыл бұрын

@@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw what logic is that exactly…

@amandapayet1421

Жыл бұрын

Brainwashed by feminism lmao you pro feminists are so wrong. 😂

@ischl420

Жыл бұрын

@@EdgarHernandez-uu4iwwhat….

"we heard a lot about ur mom, but what about u?" QUEEN SPITS FIRE. and how i love how deja articulate her point!!!

@anna-blinks

4 ай бұрын

i laughed at loud during this

@VaaleeLol

3 ай бұрын

Timestamp?

@itsgiuliahere

3 ай бұрын

@@VaaleeLol 38:10

@nasrinnski

2 ай бұрын

Really sums up what women indebted in patriarchy seems like 😭

deja speaks and articulates her thoughts really well

I love AJ and Deja, they are so well spoken!

As a middle eastern woman, Arielle bringing up the Iran issue made my soul shrivel. No feminists are speaking up about the issue in Iran? Does she think the Irani women there actively fighting against their government are anti feminist? The phrase Zan, Zendegi, Azadi literally translates to "women, life, freedom" and she claims its not a feminist issue?

@moonliqx2211

Жыл бұрын

IK Airelle got on time nerves every time she spoke especially with that Iran issue

@bocastannn2733

Жыл бұрын

@@andsoitbegins_there’s many trans women you would never assume are transgender. If they’re going through the word looking like women they’ll be treated like women. Do you think people only discriminate against women at birth???

@AliA-nz1zc

Жыл бұрын

Nobody cares

@UniqueArtsCostcoPicasso

Жыл бұрын

Arielle is a hard pill to swallow but I think that the point is valid in the sense that many feminists in places like the States don't care about issues facing women in places like Iran that are definitely more hostile toward them. There are certainly feminists in Iran taking care of business.

@MaryJaneJones.

Жыл бұрын

Deflect deflect deflect that's all they do when it comes to racism.

"I have never even felt unequal! So I don't even know what the problem is!"💀

@razikboston3414

Жыл бұрын

She is so in her own privileged world it's sickening

@SmokeyDaBoss420

Жыл бұрын

well yeah most people make themselves out to be a victim they don't see what is really going on

@naomimosby5575

Жыл бұрын

@@SmokeyDaBoss420or you mean there’s ppl that don’t go through these life experiences so they’re blind to it.

@alien6824

Жыл бұрын

@@naomimosby5575 i agree, its atrocious that only men have to sign up for the draft. Women can fight too!

@pixie158

Жыл бұрын

@@razikboston3414 frfr

Isabella was insufferable.

@sadie7994

2 күн бұрын

She gives off Pearl energy

In this episode, Deja was the Kevin of the situation. I've really aprreciated kevin being so calm in the last ep, and I di the same here with Deja.

I'd love to see this conversation outside of America

@Movedaccssss

Жыл бұрын

As a German I’m on the Anti-Feminist side. The Feminist side is too obsessed with race.

@matuuscx

Жыл бұрын

living in spain, i think this conversation would be harder to have just because i think i've met ONE woman here who's an antifeminist and only because she's a conspiracy theorist that thinks, for example, that my brother is autistic because he had vaccines

@SometimesSuicidal

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a discussion between male feminists and female antifeminists. One hour of women telling men how men feel and men "defending" women. Pure entertainment for sure

@padlily2485

Жыл бұрын

@@matuuscx Most people in general wouldn’t describe themselves as feminists even if they believe men and women are equal

@angelasparza

Жыл бұрын

Or have feminists from other countries to see the differences between their culture

that girl really just interrupted their conversation on race to basically say “I don’t care, it doesn’t affect me so let’s stop talking about it”

@metothemoon1227

Жыл бұрын

In Europe and USA we almost all have the same rights. Industrialists, royal families, politicians are the most privileged. Feminism and wokism are societal political games to divide the people.

@blafgirl

Жыл бұрын

I am black and I don't care. Identity politics is toxic.

@erikpolk2962

Жыл бұрын

​@blafgirl it doesn't matter until it does.

@starryk79

Жыл бұрын

i think we would be in a better society if we would stop to assume stuff about people just based on their skin colour. So if you enter a room and you feel uncomfortable just because the people in that room have a different skin colour...maybe that is kind of the problem. It does make sense to be most comfortable if we see persons similar to us in the room and i think we won't ever fully get rid of that. But we should try and stop putting all kind of assumptions onto it. So let's try and work on equal conditions but don't put people into skin colour boxes.

@erikpolk2962

Жыл бұрын

@@starryk79 I hear and respect that. But it's deeper than just skin color. For my grandmother and mother and myself. It's not the color, it's what the color has represented. There is apprehension that is justified and I think until we understand the " why's" and come to terms with these things without being dismissive or treating people experiences as trivial, this will continue.

I hadn't thought about it that way, but it's true, in certain situations where males are involved. your safety is hugely dependent on whether they like you or not (and it doesnt even have to be romatically)

18:42 I applaud the camera person and director. Powerful choice of photography.

18:43 “if you don’t have the money to drive to get an abortion, how are you gonna have the money to raise that child? ” she ate

@Bloomsberry364

Жыл бұрын

👑

@AJ-lm5dl

Жыл бұрын

Adoption

@dakotamabry1645

Жыл бұрын

@@AJ-lm5dl really is the family gonna pay for my recovery , medical and housing ?

@neomu-multi

Жыл бұрын

@@dakotamabry1645 better yet, what makes them think the kid will even get adopted? these pro-life are just delusional, if only people looked up orphanages statistics…

@crook4422

Жыл бұрын

@@neomu-multi so we should just abandon moral values and end a human life because that’s easier?

Why do Americans think that it’s “the only place ON EARTH” where you can achieve your goals ?!?? Seriously that statement made me think Jill was delusional

@goodenergi

Жыл бұрын

Seriously. Exactly what the US teaches Americans. It’s so bizarre.

@mikepictor

Жыл бұрын

the delusion of American exceptionalism.

@SvobodovaEva

Жыл бұрын

I was surprised that this sentence wasn’t challenged by anyone because it’s so ignorant and problematic on so many levels.

@acapellaseto

Жыл бұрын

30:10

@Farsideofthemoon22

Жыл бұрын

She was they use it to not accept that we deserve better conditions that allow people to thrive and it’s all on you which fine but it’s egotistical and not the best for humanity ❤😂

thank you Deja 🙂

the best one so far... this episode was such an eye opener. thank you

I don't know it for a fact, but Isabella has definitely thought the solution to some of the world's problem can be solved by "Just stop being poor."

@kawaiidiamond7581

Жыл бұрын

No you have to work harder than others

@thomas17375

Жыл бұрын

Isabella is one of the few sane ones in this video

@imperishablebeing332

Жыл бұрын

@@kawaiidiamond7581 this would be valid if everyone had the same opportunities and start but it’s not

@kurlykayla9013

Жыл бұрын

@@thomas17375 lol no.

@lisbee6022

Жыл бұрын

@@thomas17375 u must be high

As a European, the statement that America is the ONLY place on Earth where you can work and achieve based on your merit is so funny to me. This sentence alone is the kind of arrogance Jill and Isabella are executing during the whole video

@Faith12996

Жыл бұрын

I hate this argument so much. I'm child of immigrants that came to America and who recognized the benefits of living in the US. But I also have family who moved to Canada and the UK who are equally successful. I know of many people who moved from the US to different countries in Africa and Asia and are also successful. Like the US has its moments but it also has a lot of shitty issues that impede success.

@tbreezyt9488

Жыл бұрын

@@Faith12996 I think what she should have said was 1st world countries in general which ironically are the only countries where feminism is super strong

@cynthiarios1572

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@tobiaslawrence8928

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly tell that to all the homeless people or kids living and growing up in poverty.

@yasmina.2148

Жыл бұрын

I think she meant that everyone has the ability to succeed when they come to America or if they’re in America. But idk lol. I’m an immigrant to the US and I’ve worked hard to get where I am and I think that’s kinda of what she meant 😅

I love the way Deja talks, she’s so well spoken.

It's funny watching the trans women section as one myself, The fact my existence as a human being is getting debated by people who have not experienced what I have is just hilarious.

@Jerome_111

2 ай бұрын

😅

@AliceMadness.

19 күн бұрын

As someone who is also a Transwomen I feel you on that. When people who talk about our experiences when they haven't experienced it is kind of hilarious in a way.

"we heard a lot about your mom lets hear about you" I WAS LIKE FINALLY

@metothemoon1227

Жыл бұрын

We would like to hear about their arguments (those who said "we heard a lot about your mom") too those who are using emotion instead of arguments. But it's clear feminists rarely has rhetoric and arguments. They can't never debate with women such Cathy Young, Ekomania, Candace Owen. Whatever we like them or not but in term of debate nope the feminists can't debate with those women.

@yadig876

Жыл бұрын

And her point was….?

@NayCa622

Жыл бұрын

@@yadig876 Mommy issues

@ClearBlueSky1

Жыл бұрын

Her whole identity was centred around rebelling against her mom so her mom's a feminist and guess what that makes her - anti feminist.

@gaopatricia

Жыл бұрын

😂🎉im rollin

Tbh I feel bad for Nike because it seems like her antifeminism stems from interpersonal conflict with her mother

@spaceboj9198

Жыл бұрын

WTF saying that by seeing her talk for 10 min is disrespectful

@nessawithsmiles

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceboj9198 are you Nikè?

@spaceboj9198

Жыл бұрын

@@nessawithsmiles no

@kismet6193

Жыл бұрын

that's literally, what i was staying every time she made her points i feel so bad for her fr 😭

@lalyndacobb48

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceboj9198 she literally brought up her mom with every topic until they told her to focus on herself and not her mom

What was the white lady in the red shirt on 😭😭 she kept yapping and it would go nowhere lol

Great conversations , felt like I wanted to be part of the convo too 😊😊

"We've heard a lot about your mom, but what about you" had me crying !!

@lunareclipse6359

Жыл бұрын

Yeah looks like she's dealing with a mother wound and is taking it out on the movement because she sees it as the vice that took her mom away

@theelolicious9302

Жыл бұрын

@@lunareclipse6359 you’ve explained it really well

@pixie158

Жыл бұрын

@@lunareclipse6359 yes exactly

@tatsunithelennyking2540

Жыл бұрын

@@theelolicious9302 Y'all are insane lol. KZread therapists everywhere in the comment sections. It's insane how the world has turned out.

@michellebueso6238

Жыл бұрын

@@tatsunithelennyking2540 Everyone can see it duhhhh people are not playing therapists it is very evident

„youre just traumatized enough for me to understand that maybe things are hard“ describes modern society perfectly in one sentence

@ninjawizard3865

Жыл бұрын

Trauma? What trauma? Too many people say they are traumatized because of an event that they weren't even a part of. What the what?

@evangelinelee5238

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjawizard3865 Rape is traumatising wth is wrong with you

@ninjawizard3865

Жыл бұрын

@@evangelinelee5238 where did I say anything about rape?

@SourceChan

Жыл бұрын

Not really, it describes ancient history much better and describes modern society the least of all other times, the sentence that perfectly summarizes modern society is "I'm at the top of the victim hierarchy so I deserve the most while putting the least effort into better myself out of all groups of people".

@ninjawizard3865

Жыл бұрын

@@SourceChan that sounds more accurate.

I love Deja, I feel like she was incredible well spoken and respectful

love the embrace at the end after 50 minutes of heated, yet civil debate

Nike should really consider therapy the entire time she talked about her parent's failed marriage as a reason behind her beliefs shifting drastically decently points to quite a bit of trauma

@courtr1588

Жыл бұрын

Regardless of what she thought, if she were on the other side a lot of her talking points (just as the rest of the women on that other side) would've came from trauma... I mean, is sexism in action not sometimes traumatic for feminists?

@ItsNikenotnike

Жыл бұрын

They are still happily married. 45 years. :)

@sistagaia

Жыл бұрын

@@ItsNikenotnike You should still consider therapy

@lindsaykirschner3832

Жыл бұрын

Especially when talking about how her mother's strength emasculated her father, it seemed like she viewed the situation as zero-sum when it may not have been. Overall though, she made a lot of black-and-white comments, and I wish she used her past & upbringing to broaden her views instead of narrow them down.

@ItsNikenotnike

Жыл бұрын

I have always been and I have a degree in psychology

I refused to believe that Isabelle wasn’t put there as a satire character to push the viewers and the feminist.

@virtualwarp

8 ай бұрын

Nah, she was put there to infuriate these ignorant feminists with her sound logic and collected mind.

@Hotfckngirly

8 ай бұрын

@@virtualwarp just say you want attention & leave

@virtualwarp

8 ай бұрын

@@Hotfckngirly I don't need to leave, and guess what, I'm not going to, and neither are the countless of people who believe the same, including Isabelle.

@yumetako847

8 ай бұрын

@@virtualwarp "I don't need to leave, and guess what, I'm not going to, and neither are the countless of people who believe the same, including Isabelle." 🤓☝

@jagoisvara8178

8 ай бұрын

Huh? She spoke only facts

DEJA IS SO AWESOME!!!

The prompt "there is no wrong reason to get an abortion" is very interesting because, coming from India, female foeticide is a huge problem. Sex selective abortions are a thing. And I'm surprised they aren't addressing that.

Nike is simply calling her childhood trauma "feminism" and hating on it. It's not "feminism's" fault for her not being able to have a relationship, it's just more convenient than blaming her parents.

@kind2423

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, take accountability for your actions. She's blaming feminism for her downfalls in life

@cancelled_user

Жыл бұрын

LoL, it's like blaming men and "the patriarchy" for all your problems 😂

@fsf471

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, the feminists call their trauma Patriarchy

@johnkofi-theultimatelife1315

Жыл бұрын

She is stuck with her mom's life trauma of wanting to be a feminist while having a huge cultural and generational dissonance about those issues. She tried.

@Cornerstanding

Жыл бұрын

Yup

Arielle is a type of person to debate people who’s on her side

@narlywaves2371

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😭

@AverageGamerNub-qf6sp

Жыл бұрын

Arielle just came outta nowhere packin balls to the walls

@Elypsen

Жыл бұрын

and there's nothing wrong with that :D

@christinepoppy3277

Жыл бұрын

I like Arielle, even though I disagree with her on a lot, but I think she came in obsessed with wanting to fight about trans issues and assume that any liberal has forgotten what a biological woman is

@casandraldg

Жыл бұрын

@@AverageGamerNub-qf6spmy jaw dropped when she started talking

"feminism is what you make it" is the best way to completely dismantle your own argument by literally stating everything you say is subject to change at any moment and you don't really believe in it