Are EVs Cleaner than Gas Cars? | EV Basics

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Are electric vehicles actually cleaner than combustion-powered cars and trucks? Critics castigate the cleanliness of EVs while proponents of battery-powered cars and trucks proclaim they'll save the planet. We'll answer that thorny - and complicated - question in this episode of EV Basics.
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Data Sources:
U.S. DOE 2020 vehicle comparison
www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/...
U.S. EPA Power Profiler
www.epa.gov/egrid/power-profi...
Argonne National Laboratory data
www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/ele...
MIT Climate Portal - EVs vs. gas-powered cars
climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-e...
MIT Climate Portal - CO2 emitted from producing batteries
climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-m...
Pounds of CO2 emissions per gallon of gas www.eia.gov/environment/emiss...
Estimated annual vehicle emissions
afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/elec...
Assumptions for annual vehicle emissions chart afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/elec...
MIT mileage estimate
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0:00 Introduction
0:42 CO2 Pollution
2:39 How We Know EVs are Cleaner
3:17 Average Power Grid Mix
4:01 Research from Argonne National Laboratory
4:53 Pollution from EV Batteries
6:29 Pollution from Gasoline
7:15 Other Pollutants
7:37 Annual CO2 from EVs & Gas Vehicles
8:26 Conclusions
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  • @EVPulse
    @EVPulse Жыл бұрын

    EVs save you money on maintenance, too! kzread.info/dash/bejne/l2qV08qjkt2aqc4.html

  • @yakovfamiliant8069

    @yakovfamiliant8069

    11 ай бұрын

    How much is an insurance cost?

  • @divin3d84

    @divin3d84

    9 ай бұрын

    this is the only thing that maybe is hard to dispute so long as your battery cells don't take a dump on you costing as much or more than to replace both a transmission and engine at the same time. How likely is your transmission and engine to fail at the same time?

  • @barilles7510

    @barilles7510

    7 ай бұрын

    EV have hydraulic brakes that uses oil. Brake pads and brake rotors are replaceable too. Suspension/Shock absorbers, Wheel bearing, how about the Lithium Ion Battery?? I heard they cost $24,000 to $32,000 to get a new one and Lithium Ion Battery doesn't like below Zero temperature and doesn't like above 100°F temperature. When a Gas Car or ICE car is flooded there's a 90% chances that vehicle can still be saved and repair. EV however when they get flooded they are considered total wreck according to Insurance companies. They can't be saved.

  • @stevehayward1854

    @stevehayward1854

    2 ай бұрын

    @@yakovfamiliant8069 My Tesla is compatible with a normal ICE car of similar size but a lot less than an ICE car of similar performance

  • @stevehayward1854

    @stevehayward1854

    2 ай бұрын

    @@divin3d84 Battery prices have dropped dramatically in the last few years and battery manufactures have stated that due to a massive reduction in material prices, battery prices will drop by 50% this year alone

  • @BTC909
    @BTC909 Жыл бұрын

    I've been saying for decades "it's easier to control the emissions at a few sources vs. millions of vehicles". Anything can pass smog if you know the right people.

  • @jensdenk9235
    @jensdenk92359 ай бұрын

    Over 90% of an EV battery is recyclable. This has not been taken onto account in any Gas vs EV comparison that I have seen. It would seem fair to say that an EV battery made from recycled materials would have less than half of the emissions of a new battery. The materials used for Batteries only have to mined once.

  • @wlhgmk
    @wlhgmk8 ай бұрын

    And as grids get greener and greener, the greanness of all vehicles becomes greener.

  • @BioniqBob

    @BioniqBob

    8 ай бұрын

    But ICE just get worse. 2,000 moving parts.

  • @A3A990
    @A3A990 Жыл бұрын

    I also wonder if calculations like this attempt to account for the fact that EVs for many people can “fuel up” at home or via infrastructure that uses the electrical grid which doesn’t require moving fuel around the country or world. When you think about filling up an ICE with gas, you have oil that is extracted, then shipped to refineries (which likely uses more gas), then put on trucks to fill all the gas stations (which uses more gas), then we use more gas to drive to said stations and fill up. All of those activities create emissions too.

  • @OmerKhan1

    @OmerKhan1

    Жыл бұрын

    To generate 1 Kwh of energy for EVs, there is up to 14% transmission loss. Plus coal, gas and nuclear fuel has to be transported to do electric plant. Transmission losses are the energy lost as heat when electricity travels through wires and transformers. The amount of losses depends on the distance, voltage, resistance, and power flow of the transmission line. Transmission losses can range from 4% to 14% of the total energy generated, depending on the stage and condition of the transmission system.

  • @A3A990

    @A3A990

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OmerKhan1 Certainly a fair and important point that electricity generation is not without its losses and delivery components. That said, on the delivery side, you’re delivering those materials to far fewer destinations than gas stations. Also most natural gas power plants get fuel delivered via a pipeline. Any green energy only suffers some transmission loss as a fuel doesn’t have to be transported. Regarding efficiency losses, to be a fair comparison there are losses we should account for then in the oil extraction and refining processes as well. I’m still left to wonder if such calculations between the two have been attempted.

  • @tpedwards

    @tpedwards

    9 ай бұрын

    @@OmerKhan1also, let's not forget that the source of energy for the grid is changing over time. This comparison was with data from 2021. It is now cheaper to build a solar farm than it is to build a natural gas-powered plant and the fuel is far cheaper. The grid is getting greener.

  • @jimtravis7873
    @jimtravis78739 ай бұрын

    One vital piece of information is missing from this presentation. How do EV emission totals change when figuring in the increase power requirements to operate all the EV's? The power grid is going to have to expand tremendously to meet charging requirements. How many emissions will occur building new solar, wind, nuclear and natural gas power plants? Not to mention the ongoing emissions from those facilities.

  • @tonyharford4625

    @tonyharford4625

    9 ай бұрын

    The fossil fuel industry already uses copious quantities of electricity in the refining of it's product. If that industry can be shut down all of that electricity is all of a sudden free for use charging EVs.

  • @StarKnight619

    @StarKnight619

    8 ай бұрын

    @@tonyharford4625 .......HAHAHAAHAH! Then where are you getting the power from? Sure they use power in order to refine it but at the same time a lot of the fossil fuel that is refined is used for the power grid itself

  • @Optimistprime.

    @Optimistprime.

    3 ай бұрын

    It is a fair point and some electric infrastructure might need upgrading but it's also worth noting that many people will charge at home at night when power draw is much lower.

  • @shou635

    @shou635

    2 ай бұрын

    @@StarKnight619it takes roughly enough electricity to refine a gallon of gas to power an EV for 30 miles.

  • @shou635

    @shou635

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Optimistprime.yes. Power companies have excess power at night and actually encourage night time charging.

  • @kenliuwho9331
    @kenliuwho93314 ай бұрын

    METHANE is the real issue we need to fix FIRST more than CO2. Research that.

  • @user-hf9oo5vz6r
    @user-hf9oo5vz6r9 ай бұрын

    A lot of these calculations are pretty far off because most EV's don't have an actual 300 mile range. The effective range with the 90% charge recommendation and charging before the battery hits 0% is more like 250 miles. That difference would radically change most of these calculations. This comparison is theory vs. reality.

  • @BioniqBob

    @BioniqBob

    8 ай бұрын

    Okay Nancy, you do it. Do you drive your ICE till the tank is dry? Don't forget the fumes you huff while pumping it. Don't spill.

  • @davidlennox3574

    @davidlennox3574

    8 ай бұрын

    Again, reality vs theory. You don’t have to empty the tank on an ice vehicle to know it gets xMPG. these comparisons are MPG vs EV range. MPG is factual, EV range is theoretical. Plus, no one factors in time. You can fill your tank in 5 min and have much more range than you get from an hour charging an EV. My time is not free. 😊

  • @venenareligioest410
    @venenareligioest41011 ай бұрын

    “Suppose the United States closed everything and ceased to exist on this day May 13th 2016, No people, no cars, no industry and no utilities. Current climate models tell us that as a result of this scenario in 50 years time might be a few hundredths of one degree! An amount well within the amount that the global temperature bounces around from one month to the next. The effect would be so small as to be unattributable to regulation.” John Raymond Christy is a climate scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville (UAH) whose chief interests are satellite remote sensing of global climate and global climate change. He is best known, jointly with Roy Spencer, for the first successful development of a satellite temperature record.

  • @timfuscaldo3024
    @timfuscaldo30242 ай бұрын

    This video should be required viewing for all EV haters.

  • @Mooff2
    @Mooff28 ай бұрын

    To be fair, you should compare against a 450 hp ICE car that gets 21 miles per gallon on premium fuel.

  • @AllenBrady22
    @AllenBrady228 ай бұрын

    You neglected to talk about a couple things; The ethical questions regarding the mining of cobalt and lithium, and the rumors of child labor in those industries in South American and African mines. You also didn’t talk about the proper disposal and recycling of EV components, like batteries. The study also made a comparison with a small ICE SUV vs a EV car. I think a Tesla Model X might be better compared to a small ICE SUV. I’d also like you to consider that many ICE vehicles are used far beyond the 173,151 miles cited in the study. While EVs are mechanically totaled by battery pack replacement costs, many ICE vehicles chug along without the same cost prohibitive repairs. The cost isn’t just in CO2 emissions, but landfill waste as well. Still an informative study, but I think it is skewed for the EV audience as it’s the most likely viewership of EV pulse.

  • @aaronhill480
    @aaronhill4809 ай бұрын

    I did not see you go into recycling. What is the effect when batteries die? Where do we dispose of or put them? It is a toxic waste. I am not against EV. This was informative, so thank you. To me, the battery is a nuclear waste. Thanks for the video

  • @mikafiltenborg7572

    @mikafiltenborg7572

    8 ай бұрын

    Redwood battery recycling 🔋🔋♻️♻️♻️

  • @BioniqBob

    @BioniqBob

    8 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWas1MOrhbq8grQ.html

  • @BioniqBob

    @BioniqBob

    8 ай бұрын

    It is nuclear waste, only to the uneducated.

  • @user-lx8le3qc1i
    @user-lx8le3qc1i9 ай бұрын

    Batteries can be fully recycled. Oil can't. Put that in the build equation.

  • @Optimistprime.
    @Optimistprime.3 ай бұрын

    For me, it makes way more sense to drive an EV. While they have a lower lifetime carbon footprint, i get my power from hydro from Niagara Falls. I drive a hybrid now, but my next car will very likely be an EV.

  • @Shaqshaq_pov
    @Shaqshaq_pov Жыл бұрын

    It doesn’t matter electric cars are greener than gas cars no matter what anybody say, we already know the process It takes to make both of them, including mining. And getting to you and how they charge this is the future and they already created enough pollution since the 1700s

  • @gregfish2485

    @gregfish2485

    11 ай бұрын

    The amount of wastewater from mining it put into rivers, streams and people well water. This was not even talked about. There have been tons of fish killed and livestock.

  • @angelroms1991

    @angelroms1991

    10 ай бұрын

    Yep, electric cars have much less polution during the use time. But it get bad when you try to produce the batteries and recycle it. Because the amount of batteries we have now just can't be recycled even in decades. So it's always about delegating to 3rd world countries. As always. Stay green by cost of somebody gets their land polluted by lots and lots of used batteries. Especially, when we talking about new laws which will ban all new ICE or Hybrid cars sales in 10 years.

  • @kevinsargent6282
    @kevinsargent62828 ай бұрын

    Also, unlike ICE, EVs actually become cleaner over time (from an operating POV), as the energy sources become cleaner, as wind and solar adoption increase…

  • @StarKnight619

    @StarKnight619

    8 ай бұрын

    yet my truck can last basically forever as long as I keep up on the basic maintenance of it. Meanwhile an EV needs the battery replaced every few years. at the same time didnt the president of Ford recently try out the all electric truck and the battery on it died FAR faster because it was towing something? Dont get that problem with an ICE

  • @kevinsargent6282

    @kevinsargent6282

    8 ай бұрын

    @@StarKnight619what data are basing the claim of “every few years” on? They are designed to last the “life of the car”, which is generally 10 years or so for most people, but with a battery rebuilt or replacement it can be extended beyond that, just like an engine rebuild. Several manufacturers warranty their batteries for 10 years now, so you can be sure they are engineered to last longer than that…

  • @StarKnight619

    @StarKnight619

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kevinsargent6282 "life of the car" Louis Rossmann recently made a video that a couple will need to spend $21k in repairs due to water damage on the battery...................... I'm sorry but 21k can buy me a nice ICE vehicle that i can take with me through snow, rain, mud, etc without having to pay a ton of extra money.

  • @margolehman5482
    @margolehman54829 ай бұрын

    Excellent presentation of often confusing (and controversial) information. Thanks!

  • @EVPulse

    @EVPulse

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for both taking the time to watch and leaving a comment! Glad you're here!

  • @curtisvincent4104
    @curtisvincent41049 ай бұрын

    None of this data matters to a family that needs a small-ish truck or SUV and can’t afford that same size in an EV. 40k for an ICE crew cab truck vs 80k for the same in EV. A lot of people make decisions based on what they can afford.

  • @nerinamak3298

    @nerinamak3298

    9 ай бұрын

    True enough, but battery technology and efficiency is advancing by the day. And as more people switch to EVs manufacturing cost will come down substantially over the next few years. In 5-7 years a comparable EV will cost the same as an ICE vehicle. Will you get one then?

  • @curtisvincent4104

    @curtisvincent4104

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nerinamak3298 agreed but for those that believe we are in a climate emergency and need action now, what good is it to make them more affordable in 5, 7, 10 years down the road?

  • @timfuscaldo3024

    @timfuscaldo3024

    2 ай бұрын

    Have you not seen ICE vehicle prices lately?

  • @timfuscaldo3024

    @timfuscaldo3024

    2 ай бұрын

    @@nerinamak3298 Probably not, folks that do the EV hating can never have their minds changed.

  • @timfuscaldo3024

    @timfuscaldo3024

    2 ай бұрын

    @streetx1602 Did you not watch the video that you are comentingon?

  • @LionheartLivin
    @LionheartLivin Жыл бұрын

    *Regarding end of life for EVs*: I want to address this here as responses to comments often go undread (gotta click down and read which most won't do - human nature). EV batteries at end of life will be recycled - now if it's true that they cannot be recycled efficiently (and I don't mean tomorrow but over the years as industry evolves and grows) this industry will be far from green and the EV revolution truly isn't all it's cracked up to be. But what makes you think Redwood Materials, Battery Solutions, Gopher resources and other battery recycling companies won't continue to develop their tech to recycle more and more and recycle more efficiently? What makes you think the market and the government won't continue down their path of encouraging/mandating EV adoption via incentivizing making battery recycling more efficient? If someone has told you that there will simply be massive environmentally toxic waste at the end of an EV's life, they have sold you a bill of goods (also where are they getting their info from? Is it accurate? Might they be in an anti EV echo chamber? Might they be from competing industries that are likely to be closing shop? - please ask them follow up questions such as those above:)

  • @manuelsevigny6855

    @manuelsevigny6855

    10 ай бұрын

    Many points here: Firstly, the battery life is longer than expected. Plus, the new batteries can be repaired. And they can be used with solar power on the grid like they do in California and then at the end of their lives, they can be recycled at more than 90%... That's a lot of recycling! Try to do that with oil 😂

  • @Schenkmx
    @Schenkmx3 ай бұрын

    Why don´t you include the sourcing of raw materials for the batteries in your analysis, - e.g. Kobalt mining in Congo

  • @thatguysomewhere143

    @thatguysomewhere143

    3 ай бұрын

    There are a large number of factors he is leaving out to prop up his argument. Fact is EV's are not cleaner. Just the particulate matter they generate from brakes and tires makes them worse then ICE cars, never mind the environmental and human damage created mining for the materials for the batteries.

  • @engineeringtheweirdguy2103

    @engineeringtheweirdguy2103

    2 ай бұрын

    @@thatguysomewhere143well no. On both accounts. The they are cleaner. And you even mentioning brakes as a dirtier factor shows how little you understand EV’s. As their brake wear is around 5 times less than that of an ICE. They’re also not typically much heavier than a standard combustion vehicle. That’s because whilst the battery is very heavy. So is the massive metal engine block and 6 speeds transmissions that EV’s DONT have. So in reality EV’s are only around 100-200kg heavier than comparable combustion cars. Certainly not enough to drastically increase tire wear. Infact most studies only found that tire wear is 5%-20% higher for EV’S. Mostly due to the lack of engine feedback allowing people to drive more aggressively without any of the contextual clues for how much more aggressive they are driving. So no. Particulate emissions don’t make them dirtier, the overall particulate emissions are substantially less thanks to regenerative braking. Try again.

  • @engineeringtheweirdguy2103

    @engineeringtheweirdguy2103

    2 ай бұрын

    @Schenkmx - they are phasing cobalt out of EV batteries. Tesla. Hyundai and BYD as well as others already no longer use cobalt. But last I checked, fuel refineries still use the most cobalt globally by weight to refine the fuel you burn. The latest study found that the mining and manufacturing of EV’S is only 15% more emissions heavy than mining and manufacturing an ICE car. That equates to around 20k miles of driving to break even on a coal only grid. And assuming emissions from drilling, shipping, refining, trucking and then pumping the fuel into your car before you burn it are 0.

  • @rando.name.
    @rando.name.6 ай бұрын

    I mean im happy that its cleaner but to be honest im just glad I never have to stop at the gas station again.

  • @gregfish2485
    @gregfish248511 ай бұрын

    Does not say what happens to the environment with all the wastewater from mining lithium.

  • @mowcowbell

    @mowcowbell

    10 ай бұрын

    Just like all the wastewater from injection wells for shale oil production.

  • @tioo5265
    @tioo526511 ай бұрын

    HYDROGEN! Is the future. I think that EVs are a temporary solution between ICE and EV. T)

  • @lesliefranklin1870

    @lesliefranklin1870

    9 ай бұрын

    The problems with hydrogen: 1. Hydrogen is either dirty or expensive to produce. 2. Hydrogen has to be transported from production to distribution. This is normally done by compressing and freezing the gas. This takes a LOT of energy. 3. Hydrogen in a car takes extra steps. It has to go through the fuel cell to charge the batteries. These extra steps make it less efficient than a battery EV. Also, fuel cell cars have similar issues with their larger batteries. Sadly, hydrogen cars far short of even today's EVs.

  • @whocares264

    @whocares264

    9 ай бұрын

    oh yes hydrogen that is the stuff you can't buy....

  • @mikafiltenborg7572

    @mikafiltenborg7572

    8 ай бұрын

    🙈🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️Go hydrogen if you want to waste 66% energy

  • @raymondpaquette
    @raymondpaquette9 ай бұрын

    Before you flame me, I am an EV driver, have been since 2012. I believe in the benefits. But I also believe in facts. How can one gallon of gas (about 6 lbs) produce almost 18 lbs of CO2 when burned? Am I missing something?

  • @Sedwick1024

    @Sedwick1024

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm not a chemist, but I imagine the mass of the air that combines with the carbon during the burn has something to do with it?

  • @moarpwr4414
    @moarpwr441410 ай бұрын

    Just for clarity sake, I am assuming when calculating the CO2 from burning a gallon of gas produces nearly 18lbs of CO2 includes the pumping, shipping, refining and use of the gasoline. Since gas only weighs around 6lbs per gallon, it would be hard to produce more CO2 than what the original fuel source weighs in waste. EV technology as it evolves will be the next step in serving our transportation needs for the foreseeable future. As alternative energy sources become more prevalent, they will be even more efficient cradle to grave as many people that more to solar and such will essentially be producing their own fuel at home. You won’t be seeing that with gas or diesel. It could possibly be done with hydrogen, however that would be the dirtier production of hydrogen. That could produce an exponential growth in greenhouse gas pollution.

  • @jasonsarakatsannis7743

    @jasonsarakatsannis7743

    9 ай бұрын

    Chemistry…gas has the C, and you add O from the air for combustion. The sum is the mass of the emissions in CO2 which will be greater than the gasoline.

  • @stickynorth
    @stickynorth4 ай бұрын

    This is easily the best video I've seen on this subject. And here I was thinking this was just another click-bait troll channel trying to FUD their way out of reality... Not so... Well done! On a side note, here in Alberta, we are shutting off our last coal plant this year (after being 80% coal powered for most of our history) and replacing them with mostly renewables mixed with natural gas peaker and baseload plants in the short term with deals signed to go nuclear in the medium term with a mix of small modular reactors in remote communities and huge honking baseload reactors for the Edmonton and Calgary sized loads which combined house 3M of our nearly 5M residents in 2024...

  • @stickynorth

    @stickynorth

    4 ай бұрын

    So even if Tar Sands Alberta is headed towards a zero-carbon future there's no reason anyone else can't either!

  • @EVPulse

    @EVPulse

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for your kind words!

  • @qtheband751
    @qtheband751 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info. Good data and therefore, good arguments, are hard to find. You briefly touched on it but, what is not mentioned nearly enough, is the impact on our health. We’re killing the planet but we are also killing our selves with carcinogenic emission from ICE vehicles. That’s where EVs have a huge advantage.

  • @EVPulse

    @EVPulse

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! FWIW the purpose of this series is to try to get information out there in smaller, easier-to-understand-for-normal-people bites. Can't always hit every argument.

  • @LionheartLivin

    @LionheartLivin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EVPulseFair!!!;)

  • @Matt_K

    @Matt_K

    11 ай бұрын

    If we are indeed taking into account ICE impact on our health, shouldn't then consideration be given to poor workers who are mining various minerals used for EV batteries by hand? While the battery mineral composition is changing, to this day a large portion still uses unethically sourced elements.

  • @manuelsevigny6855

    @manuelsevigny6855

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Matt_KThat's true. That's why we're building battery plant in Canada, I'm not sure all the materials will be more ethical but probably a lot more. We also have some of these materials in North America. But, I wonder if it will be too late... Because sodium batteries are coming and I'm pretty sure it will be cleaner

  • @Matt_K

    @Matt_K

    10 ай бұрын

    @@manuelsevigny6855 Well, the battery plant, if I understand correctly, simply puts together processed raw materials, so battery plant, in this case, isn't as much part of the equation. The ethical portion, and health impact, will be production of battery packs that use different chemistry without using unethically sourced minerals. However, from my limited knowledge, sodium ion batteries are not proven yet in practice on mass scale at density necessary for EVs. They do offer an environmental solutions, especially when dealing with desalination of water but that's all lab work for now, so it seems.

  • @jeffs6090
    @jeffs60909 ай бұрын

    Essentially, from manufacturing up to the usage of the consumer and from after that to the recycling/destruction of the vehicle, both are roughly the same. However, it's the entire time someone is driving it that makes it better. The fumes in and around your neighborhood and city are nonexistent from an EV, and that's what matters. Everyone crapping on the greenness EVs because of their production and how the electricity is made for them are missing the point. As stated in this video, it's that end use of the life of ownership that makes them greener overall over ICE vehicles.

  • @mitchellsmith4601
    @mitchellsmith46018 ай бұрын

    This argument is no longer true, as people are keeping their cars much longer due to skyrocketing new car prices. As they keep those cars longer, they will have to replace their EV’s battery packs every 8 to 10 years, and as manufacturing the batteries counts for most of an EV’s carbon emissions, the ICE cars will be emit fewer greenhouse gases over their usable life.

  • @Optimistprime.

    @Optimistprime.

    Ай бұрын

    You don't have to replace EV batteries every 8 to 10 years! Lol

  • @SinnGread
    @SinnGread9 ай бұрын

    my friend just had to pay $28K for the new battery after only 70k miles. so yeah.. and EV is pathetic. EV IS DIRTY .. the buisness of ev is Dirty and the waste is Dirty.

  • @tonyharford4625

    @tonyharford4625

    9 ай бұрын

    Why did your friend pay for a new battery at 70k miles when EV batteries are warranted for 100k miles?

  • @jamesvlambert
    @jamesvlambertКүн бұрын

    There is no free lunch.

  • @SirHackaL0t.
    @SirHackaL0t. Жыл бұрын

    Why is it always the Ev under question? Why is it never the oil burning cars. Questions like this will leave people thinking EVs are bad when in actual fact it’s the ICE cars that are bad. Sigh.

  • @misaelramos83

    @misaelramos83

    Жыл бұрын

    For real. Car dependency meanwhile is the real problem.

  • @EVPulse

    @EVPulse

    Жыл бұрын

    The people who think EVs are bad are more likely going to watch it this way, and we have another opportunity to show them facts that say otherwise.

  • @dogsavethequeen7689
    @dogsavethequeen76899 ай бұрын

    "Sorry, but this web page does not exist." That's what you get when you click the EPA link for their "power profiler".

  • @EVPulse

    @EVPulse

    9 ай бұрын

    We just clicked the link right now to test and it's working for us. Could be a server issue. It is the gubmint after all.

  • @FejjNagaf
    @FejjNagaf Жыл бұрын

    You left out what happens to all of those materials at end of life. Lithium batteries need to be disposed of. Besides the fossil fuels needed to deconstruct the vehicle, what is necessary to render lithium ion batteries inert and safe for disposal? Where will they go? What potential damage do they do once taken out of the marketplace? Where do they go? Also ignored? The child labor used to mine as well as the slave labor wages paid to the miners, who are often put in the pits to mine by hand despite it being incredibly dangerous and to mine toxic minerals by hand. This was an interesting video that looked at a number of things, but still left parts of the lifecycle out of the equation.

  • @muskrat3291

    @muskrat3291

    Жыл бұрын

    The batteries will not be "disposed of" they will be recycled. The following companies recycle EV batteries: Li-Cycle, Redwood Materials, Aqua Metals, Comstock Mining, LiNiCo, American Manganese, Ascend Elements, Lithion, Hydrovolt, Mercedes, EcoNiLi Battery Inc., and the list goes on. The biggest problem these companies are having right now is that there are not enough batteries to recycle because they last so long. As far as the "slave labor" issue is concerned, that is the cobalt mines in the Congo. That is not the only source for cobalt, it is also mined here in North America (Idaho), Australia, Indonesia. Further more, the EV industry has been getting away from using cobalt. 31% of the world's EVs use LFP batteries, up from 17% just two years ago. While Tesla already is using LFP batteries in some of their models, they announced they are expanding the use to more vehicles. Ford also announced the use of LFP batteries. LFP batteries contain NO COBALT, no nickel, no manganese, and no aluminum.

  • @tootsiejoon

    @tootsiejoon

    10 ай бұрын

    @@muskrat3291 I want to see the proof on that!! All I hear is talk!!

  • @moarpwr4414

    @moarpwr4414

    10 ай бұрын

    @@tootsiejoonlook at Redwood Materials as they recycle the batteries from EV’s and all our other battery operated devices. As the industry grows and evolves there will be more players in the field. The batteries are around 95% recyclable currently. Battery recycling is nothing new as it has been mandated for our 12v batteries in our vehicles for decades.

  • @johnjay6370
    @johnjay63707 ай бұрын

    I have heard we do not have enough raw materials to make EVs and the cost will skyrocket over the next few years because of that.

  • @engineeringtheweirdguy2103

    @engineeringtheweirdguy2103

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s not quite true. Not only is lithium entirely recyclable from old batteries into new batteries, it’s also relatively abundant. The shortage isn’t how much lithium. The shortage is lithium mines.

  • @LoveStallion
    @LoveStallion16 күн бұрын

    3:18 That does not look like the United States.

  • @shaystern2453
    @shaystern245311 ай бұрын

    does a bear shit in thr woods?

  • @jimschimmel3181
    @jimschimmel31818 ай бұрын

    Did not discuss the Co2 used on mining for the precious metal(s) and the environmental impact from the toxic chemicals into the ground when refining. Also, you are not adding the horrific human rights violations from using slave labor to refine by hand (so toxic). Also, let's talk about the child slave labor to do the same. There is no one talking about this or studying this. The car manufactures definitely don't want to talk about this at all. Then let's not forget about the fuel for just 2 of the rigs that are needed to mine enough of the lithium. One of the machines consumes at minimum average 60-70 gallons of diesel an hour. A typical shift is around 12 hours. This would then equate to 720 gallons to 840 gallons of diesel per shift. The big dump trucks consume on the lower average around 55 to 65 gallons of diesel per hour. This would then equate to 660 gallons to 780 gallons of diesel per shift. That would be low estimate of 1,380 gallons to 1,680 gallons of diesel per shift combined. Last I read from the mining of lithium it takes a minimum of one 12-hour shift to have enough raw ore to make just one electric car battery. But no one what's to look at breaking down the actual numbers not just what CAT put's out for consumption on each of the equipment needed for this. Then let's not even talk about that there is ZERO plan to deal with the battery waist when the battery is no longer good. No recycling and I am sure they will be shipped to 3rd world countries for a fee. They will then dump them in the ocean's and barred in the ground to leach into the ground water. But the people that drive them don't care.... They just feel like they are better than the common person and act like elitist. They look the other way to have other countries poison their people because they can't see past their noise. This video is misleading and all in the play book of the so-called greenies.

  • @damaliamarsi2006
    @damaliamarsi20069 ай бұрын

    You forgot to mention that batteries are 99% recyclable and once you mine the Lithium you only need to mine the less than 1% loss and account for new demand. Also for ICE you have to take into account the search for recovery and refining of fuel. Though one bad thing is that CO2 is a good gas to have in the atmosphere and removing it may cause plants and plankton to diminish and die wiping out all carbon based life on earth, but sure why not.

  • @Sedwick1024

    @Sedwick1024

    8 ай бұрын

    Atmospheric CO2 concentration for the last 800,000 years has been about 170 to 300 ppm; I believe the plants and plankton were just fine. it's now at 411 ppm, and much of the excess in the air gets absorbed by the oceans, which then become more acidic. That will kill the plankton first.

  • @damaliamarsi2006

    @damaliamarsi2006

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Sedwick1024 When Co2 was at 7000 ppm the plankton sere fine.

  • @pureblue2
    @pureblue210 ай бұрын

    Great info and presentation! It’s exciting to see new technologies in automotive as we need to move away from ICE for the sake of our planet. Lithium batteries may not be the perfect solution but it’s a start and great minds are working on even newer solutions. We have an EV and solar panels and pretty much charge at home, we’ve had it for a year now and love our EV. So much misinformation and people afraid of change, thank you for helping to get the truth out there!

  • @MichaelSmith-nv5fl
    @MichaelSmith-nv5fl8 ай бұрын

    Like trump said. What are all these semi trucks and cross country transportation vehicles going to do when they have to go EV? They can’t stop every 300-500 miles to charge for hours at a time. And if they do develop a big enough or strong enough battery to achieve the same numbers and time as a diesel engine just think about the emissions created to manufacture that thing😂 and say goodbye to fast shipping and stores restocking lol

  • @dathyr1
    @dathyr19 ай бұрын

    I am not worried about whether my EV is cleaner than ICE vehicles. I did not buy my EV based on what governments say. I got the EV to break away from going to the ever rising costs at gas pumps. I only drive around town with the EV, so I only charge up my EV at home. I know the pros and cons of an EV from watching you tube videos, so my driving style and how/where I drive does very well for me. I can drive several days and then do a quick charge back up to 90 percent. Only takes a 2-3 of hours to charge. EV's are not for everyone. The vehicle works for me, but I know not for others that have to do long daily drives or trips and have to sit at charging stations for 1-2 hours. Many just don't want an EV, period. Watch all the you tube videos and then decide. Make your own judgement, not the government's. That is what i did. Take care.

  • @BioniqBob

    @BioniqBob

    8 ай бұрын

    Not for everyone, just 90%

  • @AE86FTS
    @AE86FTS Жыл бұрын

    The main advantage of EVs is that they are significantly more energy efficient than an ICE vehicle

  • @greendg7
    @greendg78 ай бұрын

    300 miles a charge ???? after 10 yrs??? which cars are these and at what temperature. How long does the battery last and a new one will reset the co2 deficit?

  • @BlackhawkPilot
    @BlackhawkPilot11 ай бұрын

    I purchase 100% green energy here in Oregon for my home and EV. When other states take on the task of going 100% green electricity we will be much better off. We have one residual coal plant that is destined to go off line soon.

  • @BioniqBob
    @BioniqBob8 ай бұрын

    Plus. When the battery is done, it is 95% recyclable. I forget the Percent of gas that is recyclable after burning it.

  • @BioniqBob

    @BioniqBob

    8 ай бұрын

    @streetx1602 Okay Nancy show us the Fake Data that proves that.

  • @willxin4517
    @willxin451710 ай бұрын

    How do you figure EVs only last as long as ICE, or later half as long as ICE. Evidence says that the current EVS will last twice as long as an ICE car. Not sure where I saw the co2 emission from getting the gasoline to the bars tank. You talked about it but not laid it out very well.

  • @rorynicholson3295
    @rorynicholson329510 ай бұрын

    Hmmm, look at the environmental carrnage 500 burning EV's have caused off the Dutch coast....imagine the disaster EV's would cause in the Channel tunnel or in a highrise apartment building car park.

  • @tonyharford4625

    @tonyharford4625

    9 ай бұрын

    If you are referring to the cargo ship containing EVs which caught fire you will find if you look it up that the fire was not caused by the EVs. I would post a link but can't here.

  • @rafaelmejia5988
    @rafaelmejia598810 ай бұрын

    Every time something new comes, there is resistance to change. Typical. I find an EV more comfortable than an ICE car. The EV is quieter, transmits less heat, has low maintenance, ability to charge at home, etc.

  • @jcfallows
    @jcfallows9 ай бұрын

    I don't believe the building of EV are that dirtier them an ice car. I'm twenty years used batteries will start being available to reprocess they won't need remaining so will be so much cleaner too manufacturer new ones. I'm the man time we have to stop burning things!

  • @erichannes6392
    @erichannes6392 Жыл бұрын

    A ice car pollutes every time it’s used……total fact.

  • @billcichoke2534

    @billcichoke2534

    10 ай бұрын

    But uses the fuel in its tank and doesn't lose it. Also, ICEVs put out water vapor and CO and CO2. WVs put out ozone from motors and inverters. So tell me which one is ACTUALLY polluting. No lies...fact. Sorry about your unearned superiority complex...

  • @larrymaloney877
    @larrymaloney87710 ай бұрын

    No "math" is needed except on a six-grade level. EVs have many fewer parts needing much less material and labor and fabricating machinery. They can be built with less-skilled labor (which fits with our dumbed-down society.) ICE vehicles waste 70% of the gasoline burned as heat energy. The list is endless. EVs are controversial only in the political/fossil fuel arena. They will stall the demise of ECE vehicles for 50 years if given a chance - just as big tobacco stalled the demise of tobacco promotion and sales. Today, only the truly addicted smoke. Evs can be made less powerful, thus needing less battery energy (smaller batteries.) As the industry matures it will easily take the place of the ICE technology.

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