I would’ve liked to ask why the Church refused to provide security camera information to the State for Lori’s trial? It was established that Alex cell data showed him in the parking lot of the church near Chad’s house the day of at least one of the murders (can’t remember which) but that the church wouldn’t provide footage. It was just a quick mention during testimony in Lori’s trial.

@shelliejones7817

7 күн бұрын

LDS leaders KNEW and did NOTHING! They do NOT deserve a free pass

The movie Under the Banner of Heaven is eerily similar to a lot of what happened with Lori & Chad. I’m a Baptist but you do see some people who go to the extremes in doctrine & for any religion that can be dangerous

@learnhope7895

14 күн бұрын

When you have several examples of people who have a similar outcome like the Under the banner of heaven and even if you go back to the mountain meadows massacre look at Ruby Frankey then you have to think maybe the religion sets them on this path

@carolyearsley

14 күн бұрын

@@learnhope7895 Exactly!

@jamybailey

13 күн бұрын

1000000000000%

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

@@learnhope7895 I can understand that perspective. But what about the 17 million average and humble LDS who just try to improve their communities?

@learnhope7895

11 күн бұрын

@@sarahaas183 Well you know what they say about one bad apple spoils the whole barrel

I'm not sure why he said we believe salvation is a group thing. We are actually taught that salvation is individual and exaltation is a family/group matter.

They both probably had evil in their hearts even before they met but intuitively recognized it in each other when they met. They mislabeled their evilness as some kind of piety.

This is so interesting thank you Nate thank you Dr Bowman specialist in religion for sharing. I have learned so much.

It’s hard to explain, but I almost joined the LDS church because the people that I met in Utah were really wonderful. But I also understand that had I decided to remain in the church, no doubt I would’ve found out more disturbing information as the indoctrination process continued. I did not join because I could not believe in Joseph Smith’s claims of direct communication with God.

@friskysmith2170

14 күн бұрын

It was the Book of Abraham for me. That, and anachronisms in the Book of Mormon (horses, steel, etc on pre-Columbia’s America) and the lack of archaeological evidence of huge battles and civilizations.

@stellaarthur2739

14 күн бұрын

It was Benson's grandson revealing he was senile while a sitting prophet & THEN the 3 below him changed the rule putting control of the money in their hands, taking it from the prophet. It's a corporation not a religion

@carolyearsley

14 күн бұрын

Smith and his friends put the book of Mormon together from sources they had access to at the time. Two examples--1 The King Benjamin speech is a knock off of the ones by the famous Methodist preacher Benjamin Abbott, during the Second Great Awakening. 2. The story of Lazarus in the Bible was used as a template for the BOM story of Lamoni. There are so many more examples. The verdict is that Smith and his new were bible are total frauds, to rip off the gullible people who would believe them. The sad thing is that many people still fall for it in this day and age.

Nate, this man do not really have a good overview about the studies about Near Death Experiences (NDA). They are much older than he says, even Plato writes about this. The reason there is so much more information about this topic now is that so many more people have experienced this after the development of medical expertise that brings so many more people back from the edge of life. There are mainly three groups that are talking about NDA’s. One is the religious groups, those he talks about here. Another are people believing they can be explained like he says with neurological explanations. But there is a third group that has been studying and documenting such experiences the last 50 years by scientific methods that argues that the parts of the experiences that are possible to validate are real, that the consciousness is operating outside the body. This group of scientists are the ones who has the most data to support their findings today, as they are purely data-driven and goes where the data leads them. The studies are done all around the world, but one of the most renown are the Division of Perceptual Studies (DOPS) at the University of Virginia. There is also a scientific journal about these kind of studies, the Journal of Near-Death Studies.

This was such an informative interview. Dr. Bowman shed some light on the similarities and differences between Chad Daybell's ideology and the Mormon/LDS doctrines. Thank you for sharing this!

Excellent information and answered many questions we have all been asking.

Thank You for this INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE interview. Dr. Bowman spoke clearly & with considerable knowledge that so many of us wanted to know! As always Thank YOU Nate for bringing us everything we need to know!! It’s greatly appreciated!

I’m fascinated.. awesome to delve into near life and the other side 😊

Great interview Nate. Thank you.

Why does this guest sound like he is underwater?? Nate's recording sounds clear. I cant understand clearly a word that this other guy is saying.

@touche7174

14 күн бұрын

Yes..I'm also battling to hear him....such a pity😮😊

@audreyricci6383

14 күн бұрын

Did anyone stop to think that it might be the quality of the interviewee's sound equipment?

@lilylore3058

14 күн бұрын

@@audreyricci6383 yes. I thought that for sure. The sound was horrible. I am going to go back and listen/w CC on so I can read along. Thank you for your wise insight.

@vernareed2692

13 күн бұрын

​@@audreyricci6383I think along with the equipment the expert was using also his constant movement affected his delivery!!

Nate, has this tragedy has any influence on your beliefs as a Mormon? I have been questioning mine for sure. When I heard “Rexburg Idaho was the town of this horrible event my ears really tuned in. I went to college in Rexburg. I left months before the damn broke.

@jamybailey

13 күн бұрын

This case was my shelf breaker

@Becca-oi1hq

13 күн бұрын

Chad Daybell is a false prophet. The scope of damage he has caused is incredibly far reaching. He has twisted the gospel and his teachings are not the truth, don’t let his corruption cause you to fall away. Growing up in the LDS church, I left at age 18 and was anti Mormon for 14 years. Not a good place for me. I am so glad I made it back. Now I try to hold on to the iron rod and not heed corrupt and confusing messages (aka Chad and the people who think Chad represents the LDS church). Again, Chad is a false prophet.

@vernareed2692

13 күн бұрын

​​@@jamybaileythen there's ruby franke and hildebrandt!! (Spelling? But the fact these religions have to write,publish,adhere to and the rules which are so far off from the King James Bible, God's Word! KJV proves out with the Dead Sea Scrolls experts have proven!! In Revelation God warns what will happen to anyone who adds to or takes away from His Word!! Manmade can not be better or improve on God and what He says or creates!!

@thenomadsland

9 күн бұрын

I wonder the same thing. I left after seeing the destruction caused when some of my family members took on similar beliefs - portals, light/dark spirits, prepping, castings, etc. Many ward members also participated. No murder in my family, but a suicide.

Great interview Matt!

This was helpful Nate. Thank you!

Nate always watch you and luv your work

This interview is real treat for me to enjoy having a BA in Religious Studies ‘97. Looking forward to looking up Dr Bowmann’s book. Well done Nate Eaton

Excellent interview! For anyone wanting more info on the theology from an insider's view, that's all I'm talking about until the trial is over. 🙂

Yes he is a practicing member of the LDS Church.

@gaiagreen2690

14 күн бұрын

Which explains it all, I guess.

@erickah5947

14 күн бұрын

@@gaiagreen2690it’s much more nuanced.

@gaiagreen2690

14 күн бұрын

@@erickah5947 Could you explain the nuances, please?

@sjenson6694

13 күн бұрын

​@@erickah5947No, it's really not.

Nate thank you so much for this video. I have wanted to defend the LDS Church from Vallow and Daybell. You did an excellent job with yourself and your guest!

@debz5463

14 күн бұрын

I get yiu totally,It's not fair to judge the lds/Mormon faith on the people who take this lovely religion and make up they're own rules to suit themselves ...that's the sad thing of extremism ..I'm CofE in uk not practicing like most but I wouldn't ever make up the rules and preach them to others ...💜

@Juke582

14 күн бұрын

There are others who grew up Mormon going to those churches who said that all of that stuff that Chad teaches is taught in Mormonism. Dark/light scales too! Demons. The 144 after end of times! All of it!

@stellaarthur2739

14 күн бұрын

Every Mormons mom has read Chad's books. Visions of Glory was the #1 book sold in Utah last year. MORE Mormon murderers & child abusers will be uncovered. BUT it's guns & anti government wackos among Mormons we're going to hear about

@eliza-uh1sk

14 күн бұрын

I am terrified of lds since this whole situation and also the other case of the woman and the psychologist tying up the kids all seem to be a version of lds and then seeing how strange the sermons are it doesn't seem believable but more far fetched and weird But I am trying to learn what its all about or where the good part in it all is.

@robinhughes2198

14 күн бұрын

@@eliza-uh1sk try to remember there are bad people in every religion. There are over 18 million Latter Day Saints. Obviously not all kill their children!! There are some pretty messed up people out there. I’m LDS and I think I’m normal!! You can ask me anything!!

Sound is there for me, but sadly quality of speaker’s sound is bad, very choppy…

@touche7174

14 күн бұрын

Yes...so interesting..but I'm also battling to hear him!😮😊

31: 30 LDS people study the Book of Mormon more than the bible . Can we talk of ‘ study ‘ when questioning is not allowed ?

@brittanymcguff

14 күн бұрын

This isn’t true. We equally study them all. Every year we study a different book. This year is Book of Mormon but last year was the the New Testament. The year before that was the Old Testament. We love all scripture and strive to understand it all.

@friskysmith2170

14 күн бұрын

The “most correct book” ever

@moniquedelaney7958

14 күн бұрын

It is about the definition of ‘ study ‘

@carolyearsley

14 күн бұрын

@@friskysmith2170 Mark Twain called it "chloroform in print". Smith and his friends compiled it from many sources that they had access to at the time.

@sjenson6694

13 күн бұрын

​@@friskysmith2170Yep a book with 4000 revisions.. of course most members have no idea because research of the many errors and mistakes in the book is frowned upon.

This is why guidance should come from the Bible only. No other book is needed for salvation.

Excellent discussion. I wish this guy could be a witness for the prosecution to clarify and correct defense attorney Prior's continuing mis-directions. Nate, too bad about the sound on Dr. Bowman.

Good commentary - awful sound problem.

I tend to explain from a passion believing point of view. I love it when I get to hear someone explain in basic terms the beliefs of a religion. Many have asked me to explain, which I gladly do, ever since this fiasco began. As a member of the church I think I speak fir many when I say, I do not want to be them after they die. Not inly in the taking of innocentlife but in propegating negative understandings about a religion who worships God and Christ. I think the Lord will have much to say to all those who use His name in true vain.

Coming from Protestant only background, I really appreciate this information. Most especially what the LDS do actually believe/do versus what Daybell, etc. did. Thank you both.

@carolyearsley

13 күн бұрын

Read "An Insider's View of Mormon Origins", by D. Michael Quinn

The audio quality is so poor that I didn’t hear if the interviewee told us why yea and coffee are not allowed.

@Ruth-nn1dr

14 күн бұрын

LDS prefer not to subject the body to anything like caffeine that alters the brain or body, so black tea and coffees are generally forbidden.

the church could at least give condolences to their members, Tylee Ryan, JJ Vallow, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell????

@erickah5947

14 күн бұрын

You realize the church has millions of members around the world. As soon as they start doing that, how many will be offended because their family was forgotten?

@Atalinay

14 күн бұрын

@@erickah5947 but also billions of dollars, they can take time to excommunicate, but not offer words of peace and condolences?

@MyArgylesock

14 күн бұрын

Believe you and me, the church has- on a personal level, which is appropriate.

@carolyearsley

14 күн бұрын

@@Atalinay Well said!

This is super interesting and very important. I wish your guest had a better microphone or maybe less movement or something.

A useful in-depth analysis of some key core issues. It helps to inform people and mitigate hostility toward Mormons.😊 The 《problem》with Protestantism is that anyone can interpret holy texts as they see fit, without any constraints. Some people don't even read these texts for themselves. An example : most people who celebrate Christmas have their own 《Diatessaron》in their heads and have zero conception of the apparent contradictions of the birth story on Luke and Matthew, or even the reality that we have no historical facts to corroborate the birth narrative outside of Luke and Matthew. I take the same view as Dale Martin and Bar Ehrman on this question : Matthew and Luke had a theological point they wanted to make. Without prejudice to Mormons, it's my opinion that Joseph Smith was a charlatan. That said, Chad Daybell is a prophet in his own mind. Stated differently, I believe he's delusional and a grandiose narcissist who grossly depassed societal norms, even those set by the Mormon establishment.

@carolyearsley

14 күн бұрын

Smith and his friends took information from many sources to create the BOM. Here are just two examples. King Benjamin's speech is a knockoff of the ones by the famous Methodist preacher Benjamin Abbott, during the Second Great Awakening. Also the story of Lazarus in the Bible was used as a template for the BOM story of Lamoni. The con men created a new religion in order to dupe the gullible, ignorant populace and make a bundle of money. It is still working, as L.D.S. Inc. rakes in billions of dollars every year from the trusting members, to add to their over two hundred plus billion that they already have. And they are so cheap that they won't even pay custodians to clean the buildings, making the members do it, adding to their already over loaded church service load. SICK

@doneestoner9945

14 күн бұрын

Joseph Smith was a known con artist. I believe there are actual court records from his time in the 1800s.

@carolyearsley

14 күн бұрын

Of course Smith was a con man. EIN deleted my comment to you giving some examples.

Very informative! I watched it twice!

What insight does a man have to write a book woman in Mormonism?

THE NUMBER OF KIDS LORI REFERENCED IS IN CHAD'S BOOKS.

I always roll my eyes at the near death experience people. I've died twice in my life (lucky me, huh?) Once as a child with pneumonia, the second during an emergency c-section. There is nothing. No bright lights, no floating over your body, no dead relatives, no tunnels. There is absolutely nothing. It's black. It's like being asleep. Sorry if that brings down some people, but that's the truth.

Thank you Dr Bowman and Nate for educating the non LDS, and separating it from what Chad believes in. When I studied world religions as a minor, the LDS church was touched on. My heart really goes out to the area where Tammy and Chad lived. I’m sure the community is especially hurting when the world may view Chad’s religious views are the same as their churches official view. Thank you for the clarifications.

I can hear

Instead of the 100s of videos like this that explain the differences between the Church of Chub vs the LDS Religion (some good like this one, some very bad and misleading) the Church leadership should put out a statement that simply says (1) there can only be ONE Prophet- and it ain't him, (2) if anyone invites you to a Fireside that is not sponsored by your Bishopric or Stake Presidency, DON'T GO and report it to Church Leaders, and (3) anyone that says that they can see beyond the Veil is blasphemy and also needs to be reported to Church Leaders ASAP. But they don't, so more misinformation is in the public domain, and their silence is deafening.

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

I wish for that, in a way, too. But sometimes I have to consider that the prophets don’t necessarily draw more attention to an already sensationalized situation or headline. They don’t veer from what God allows. The main role they have, is to preach repentance. We are all responsible to live our lives in the way that reflect our beliefs, accurately. I’ve gotten so exhausted by and miss information about our faith, now that there is social media, and Internet, that I have realized I can only do so much. I can only raise my kids and take care of my family and neighbors. I can’t fight off all the wolves on social media all day. Though I certainly want to.

I would like to see this interview with subtitles

@FamilyHandshake07

13 күн бұрын

Turn on the closed captioning

@vernareed2692

13 күн бұрын

​@@FamilyHandshake07closed captioning isn't always correct,it puts in wrong stuff!

Thank you Nate Eaton and Dr. Bowman for this post. Very informative and well presented. I am an Episcopalian who has followed the Vallow Daybell case and the Frankie Hildebrand one as well. Just a few thoughts: Mormonism was founded during the Second Great Awakening in 19th C America along with the Shakers and other apocalyptic religions. Even among mainstream Protestant faiths there was an all encompassing stress on redemption and being ready for the End Days. It was also the period when Spiritualism was growing rapidly. Emphasis on the afterlife and communicating with the Spirit World. Queen Victoria and Mary Todd Lincoln used psychics and seances. As an example of how Morman belief has been often misrepresented in the midst of all this if you wanted to twist Episcopalian belief in the Communion of Saints you might confuse it with Spiritualism practices. Dr. Bowman is spot on r.e. Chad and his followers mixing historic Apocalyptic beliefs with modern New Age ones solely for their benefit. Evil! I don’t really have a horse in this race but I do hate attacks on different belief systems in the media. BTW when the new Elementary School was built in our County the playground was up to the PTA and people willing to fund it and erect it. One of the teachers is LDS. The whole ward showed up every weekend until three perfectly equipped and landscaped playgrounds that were age appropriate were constructed. God bless those families!

Loved the information Nate!! Haters gonna hate 😂 great insider.

Man made religions & rules of many religions that are not fully practicing the Bible as God & Jesus intended!

The guests audio is bad.

Chad was very public with his beliefs yet no one reported this to his church/temple? Chad wrote books and people were going to his events - many knew.

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

None of us can know all those details. We are all human. Most people wouldn’t be able to imagine or fathom what was going on in those two heads. Even when I meet someone, I might disagree with them, or think something is “off“… That doesn’t mean I would necessarily know how to perfectly handle it, or what to do about it. The whole thing is so insane, and it doesn’t look anything like my LDS, faith or beliefs. Any of us who have learned about this, or so horrified. I doubt that, any average, volunteer, rank and file member, or local leader, could guess how bad things were

@irene_f.

10 күн бұрын

@@sarahaas183 I was thinking more of Melanie Gibb and perhaps those who knew him a little more that were aware of his "light and dark and zombie labeling". He was very public about his beliefs and his books.

@shelliejones7817

7 күн бұрын

Heather Daybill warned leaders of LDS. They knew and did NOTHING! LDS does NOT deserve a free pass!

Hi Nate I'm tuned in from Australia. When I was 16 which was forever ago. I was working in a fruit canning factory. I went to eat a piece of pair one day and it got stuck in my throat. I was chocking and couldn't breath, and I saw flashes of my life up until then flashing before me as far back to when i was a little kid, thankfully one of the girls I work with came and saved me from chocking. It's only ever happened the once. Do you know what that was or what you would call it. ???

@carolyearsley

14 күн бұрын

It's called a Near Death Experience. Unfortunately, Chad and Lori were making up theirs in order to sell books.

Thank you; emphasizes how dangerous the mormon cult really is. Mormonism breeds individuals like the Daybells, or the Frankie's. Chad was a storm waiting to happen. marcus

@jamybailey

13 күн бұрын

Yup. And interviews like this is what mormons will continue to hide behind screaming "not my religion". I should know. I used to be mormon and use the same weak apologetics

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

It “breeds”? You really think these people represent the kind, service-oriented LDS people that simply try to love God and improve their communities?? We are really quite boring!😂 These two people are horrific. Their beliefs look nothing like my faith or knowledge, as a Latter Day Saint. We talk about, is Jesus Christ. And my children are kind, loving, nonjudgmental humans. These two were dangerous. Latter Day Saint christians are statistically NOT dangerous. C’mon

I believe the book Visions of Glory was written by John Pontius but that was a pseudonym for Thom Harrison who is a member of the LDS Church.

Sound is so bad,I couldn't follow along

Sound?

@catalinacurio

15 күн бұрын

Try closing the app and reopening.

I can’t hear him! I really want to watch this with better audio!

@betsyandall

13 күн бұрын

Turn on your closed caption. Click on the cc up on the right

@vernareed2692

13 күн бұрын

​@@betsyandallcc isn't always correct! It makes mistakes!

No sound

Thanks Nate. Great un-biased interview with a scholar who did a decent job explaining how Chad and Lori were mixing Christian and New Age beliefs to come up with their new disturbing and distorted teachings. Based on some negative comments from a few people, I guess the interview wasn't negative enough about the LDS Church to satisfy their preconceived notions. My observation is that it's gullible people like that who end up following people like Chad and Lori Daybell !!!

@gaiagreen2690

14 күн бұрын

He is a practicing mormon.

@Kimmer

14 күн бұрын

​@@gaiagreen2690I was mistaken and you are correct after more research. I'll edit the comment. Thanks!

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

@@gaiagreen2690what difference does that make? He spoke objectively

Chad and Lori went from seemingly mainstream members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to following and practising beliefs outside the official teachings and doctrine. Sometimes, there are formal offshoots of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - people like Chad and Lori who formally create a new group. Chad and Lori chose to develop their own ideas that were out of sync with the mainstream church.

@user-dc1mv5rd4n

14 күн бұрын

Chad and Lori's extreme narcissism and hubris is astounding. In assuming Church of the Firstborn status and esoteric superiority they manipulate others and assume power unto themselves. They assumed power and authority over others. Their doctrine is wholly-opposed to the teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ. Lori and Chad are manifestly evil. They used the Church for their own evil purposes.

Is Nate part of the LDS church?

@brandibugh1

14 күн бұрын

Yes nate is lds last time I checked 😊

@irarobinson284

14 күн бұрын

Yes Nate is a practising member of the LDS Church

@gaiagreen2690

14 күн бұрын

I really didn't need to know that... It does explain why this guest, another practicing mormon, is going into such appologetics of the LDS church.

@dreadede

14 күн бұрын

Doesn’t really make this an unbiased interview, does it then?

@user-dc1mv5rd4n

14 күн бұрын

Nate and Dr. Bowman both did an excellent job present this in an un-biased way and spoke clearly to all audiences. Just as a great college professor makes it difficult to tell his actual positions and preferences, Nate and Dr. Bowman presented facts for listeners to learn and understand.

Is Nate a member of LDS?

@aowyn_

14 күн бұрын

yes

Incredible interview! He’s amazing! One would believe the LDS church should comment on the many current members. Thanks so much for this.

Sound is like fingernails on a chalkboard. I’d like to hear what he has to say, but just can’t stay with it.

I is have sound :)

Hard to understand this guest

What the heck is this? I thought Nate was a member

'this book' 20 times, seriously say the title more than 1 time

Chad and Lori went rogue.

And All The Time Joseph Smith Knew That The Book Of Mo-Mos Is False 😢😂😅💯%

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

Odd comment

Tamy for sure would of bever died if chad wasnt a Mormon. Chad would of just gotten a divorce like a normal person

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

Uh. I don’t think he was ever normal. (Crime rates are statistically, extremely low in communities that are high in latter-day Saint Christians.) Sadly, if it wasn’t his twisted view of LDS beliefs, or his made up beliefs, he probably would’ve still became a psychopath with whatever his upbringing was. These people don’t represent latter-day, Saints, and anybody who has latter-day Saint family or friends, know that. But the crazies in the news now represent all of us boring LDS?

@sarahaas183

11 күн бұрын

He’s not a normal person 😂 So, no.

Neurologists can easily explain what happens to the brain when it's deprived of oxygen for an extended period of time. Near death experiences can be physiologically explained. But facts are not as spectacular as what these so-called visionaries come up with.

@doneestoner9945

14 күн бұрын

The brain releases certain hallucinogenic chemicals when the body is "dying".

@MrDavenez

14 күн бұрын

I think anyone who is associated with Chad Daybells beliefs are nutso, but I also thought there was a neurological reason for NDEs until a Neurologist had a NDE and it changed his entire life. I guarantee Chad Daybell didn't even have a NDE he just wanted to cash in like his friend with the popular books.

The question is does God choose the chosen to kill the dark & zombies ??? LDS ????

I Would Make Public Statements About The Screwed Up False Religion

Is living near or doing business with radical LDS believers safe? Clearly no given their self righteous justification to harm others. One may not know how far they will go until it is too late. Romans 3:23

Seems like chad followed the pattern js attempted to complete writing his own book ! “Visions of glory “ js saw supposed glory then took other wives hmm seems awful familiar!

Thank you for covering this important issue. 1. Joseph S using 1800 terms in BOM has been questioned. Using portals and zombies, Daybell did the same, he wanted more cred. Zombies just eat others, they don't scheme where Daybell got it wrong. 2. I kid that the books of Mormonism and Visions of Glory are sequels to NT (The Book of) Revelation and OT books like Isiah. a) Without the sequels, there is no use for Mormonism. b) It's Revelation, no The Book of. 3. Like you said, there's many parallels to Evangelism/Pentacostal; however, there are some essential differences. a) Throughout the 1900s, Born Again movements gained steam to the Evan/Pent movements. b) Mostly protestants were joining non-denominational churches. Because of the Reformation, salvation was more personal, so one faith to another is not so drastic. c) Not so for Catholics. Catholics had to downright quit the Catholic faith. d) So the Carasmatic movement didn't require quiting. Ceremonies just had to be separated and not talked about. The movement is best known for speaking in tongues, alien to most Catholics. e) Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, and Anglican/Episcopalian are essential the same. Minor differences and schism were mainly political. Anglicans are not really Protesants. f) The cult Christian denominations use Revelation and its sequels to scare their followers so they stay in line and it's easier to grift. g) Way before all the schism, the Catholic Church stressed that all prophecy ended shorty after the start of the Church. h) Mainstream denominations do not reference Revelation and much of the OT. The Bible has too many contradictions and God isn't so nice. i) Hell, Jesus' is it. Catholics do not and are not required to read the Bible by themselves. j) The main difference between these Hell raising Evan/Pent cults and Mormonism, each church is very automis. The preachers answer to no one about faith or finances. k) the preachers are the visionaries, they talk to God. In a way good, the preachers are public figures. l) Catholicism is lead by one leader. Even the mainstream denominations tend to be confederations. j) This is why LDS leaders pick on the CC, because it would take half the sermon just to name all the protesant denominations. h) I define the cults as: LDS, Jehovah W, nondenominational Evan/Pent, and some Baptist denominations. i) Sciencetology uses similar techniques. Except they have more time. Converts sign one billion year contracts. My theories: 1. Have leaders of LDS and Jehovah W ever been photographed in the same room. They number about the same, have NY ties, and any instigator is dead asleep a 1/2 sentence into a sermon. a) JW copied the LDS playback 50 years later. b) However, JW knew to have a founder with less baggage than Joseph S. c) Blacks are in the top leadership. With additional 50 years, one can iron out the wrinkles. 2. Is Star Wars really a biopic of LDS? The SW Emperor and LDS Nielsen sound and look a lot alike. 3. Do you think the LSD helped in the creation of JW? That way, LDS can say JW is worse. All parents in JW, fringe LDS, and Sciencetology should be jailed and the kids placed in the Child Welfare system. All kidding aside, I truly believe the last should be done now. Those poor poor kids.

I’m sure Mormon teaching doesn’t teach murder but it does create an arrogance that needs addressed.

@kristiediaz1

15 күн бұрын

Nope you are incorrect. If you’d like to learn more, just let me know! 😊

@DonnaHeckert

15 күн бұрын

You hit the nail on the head, arrogance, they think are supremely special

@Kimmer

15 күн бұрын

... based on what evidence? Your comment reflects your profound ignorance. Arrogance? Do you know any members of the LDS faith or do you believe this from false narratives you have read and believe? I know many members of this faith and would never describe them as arrogant. Why not learn more rather than ignorantly offend an entire religion?

@Kimmer

15 күн бұрын

@@DonnaHeckert Please explain and show the doctrine of the LDS Church that proves they believe they are supremely special as you claim? You can't because no such belief exists! It's people like you who fall for false narratives and end up following people like Chad and Lori Daybell !!!

@Kimmer

15 күн бұрын

​@@DonnaHeckertWhich doctrine of the LDS Church leads arrogant members to believe they are supremely special? Are you getting confused again between beliefs of Chad and Lori and the LDS Church?

Any time a "religious expert explains" get ready for the BS and backpedaling..

Good info? Can’t watch as the sound is so awful it’s giving me a headache! Can’t understand him! Sad, like fingernails on a chalkboard.

@audreyricci6383

14 күн бұрын

I can understand the interview.

@doneestoner9945

14 күн бұрын

I can hear him fine.

Have an interview with an actual member of the church like an apostle or the church spoke person.

@shelliejones7817

14 күн бұрын

They probably won't interview.

Why have an “expert” on your show that isn’t a member? Seems a little odd to me.

@sjenson6694

13 күн бұрын

Any decent expert on history or religion has a nasty tendency to bail out of this rocky mountain sex cult once they come across the thousand or so reasons it's phony.

Follow the Bible. Period 🙏🏻

There are 13 Article’s of Faith that give a brief summary of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint’s beliefs. The 8th Article of Faith states, “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.”

Both are weird & their teachings. The Bible came before all these religions & that is what should be taught. Nothing else!

@joycewedel9084

14 күн бұрын

They are more like cults!

No sound

@marygoff3332

15 күн бұрын

It's working now. Took a couple minutes after the "live" ended for the sound to come in.....

@pslm23

14 күн бұрын

​@@marygoff3332 thank you