Nate, please stop apologizing for running long. We want you to run long, we want you to keep reporting. I am disappointed when you sign off. Your insights are amazing and I want more!!!

@kimberlyrogers0804

13 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@Floridasun942

13 күн бұрын

Same here , likes when Nate Runs Long with his reporting and family life and congratulations to Elliot!

@r1133rocco

13 күн бұрын

❤ Nate’s courtroom insider

@PawsandLaws

13 күн бұрын

I concur

@ginnieplato2871

13 күн бұрын

Agreed, but I gotta say: NATE!! Please don’t miss important family events for us!!! Couldn’t one of your colleagues that covered while you were away fill in? It sounded like one of them (Caitlin?) may have been covering the Utah case, but still….

I don't think Chad ever believed in his visions. He just saw the power it gave him over others and used it for his power and ego.

@audradaniels4161

13 күн бұрын

I totally agree

@bethanymock4581

13 күн бұрын

I agree. He knew what he was doing when he told lourie she was no longer protected bc she wasn't talking to him he's just a liar/manipulator.

@CKT7009

13 күн бұрын

The whole thing was his fiction from the moment he decided to turn a nasty bump under water into a near dearh experience in order to capitalise off Julie row and the vision of glory ideas. Made him a famous prophet popular with tge ladies, and what better pick up than...I was a god and you were my goddesses a past life. Worked for the " hot blonde"

@Soffity

13 күн бұрын

@@CKT7009 sure did. But then she was already very much obsessed by his idiotic books. Wouldn’t work for me. I’d probably slap his stupid face except I couldn’t bear to touch him.

@tanjabolli3170

12 күн бұрын

That is religion in a nutshell

Couple of things I noticed; Chad keeps screwing up. He tells her that Alex laughed, then catches himself realizing he’s told her that he and Alex were texting, and adds “you know, lol”. He says Alex told him he misses her, then catches himself again realizing their schtick is that they can communicate with dead people and adds “but he’s not far you can text him anytime”. It infuriates me, he’s working her so hard. He doesn’t want to lose his piece. Blech. This man is not, nor ever has been, delusional. He was a small insignificant man with a big inferiority complex and a boatload of insecurities. Bored with his wife, bored with his life. Nothing more than a wanna-be cult leader, trying real hard but just can’t seem to really get it off the ground. And then he meets the blonde narcissist……

@runningfox9750

13 күн бұрын

And he made up his near death experiences and visions (took it all and pieced it together from other people's books and talks at conferences.... because for years and years following his two accidents he'd never told a single friend or family member that he had a vision or a near death experience in either case.... And he took all the torn veil, end of times, light and dark spirits, portals and reincarnation talk from various fringe topics and teachings that break off groups from the LDS religion had been secretly passing around in fringe groups for years. He made it all up first to sell books after seeing Julie Rowe and Suzanne freeman make good money on their books and Julie began gaining an actual following demanding more n more books and selling out conference halls for talks about her visions of the future. Chad published these books ..Tammy doing all the work of course....and after he saw the success n popularity of these ladies n other authors books he suddenly came out writing books claiming his veil was torn in his near death experiences and he had all these visions of the end times. ...and eventually he shoveled so much crap he was calling himself and actual prophet and claiming he'd lived alongside Joseph Smith and of course with Jesus in past lives. He never believes his own crap. He told it to SELL BOOKS. to BE SOMEBODY and to gain himself a following of mostly women. When the "hot and loaded"(Chad words not mine) Lori "Ryan"-- wonder why she gave a name she wasn't living by at the time ..... Came into Chad's life and ate up his books his talks his stories his podcasts...and basically immediately jumped his bones...well dumpy chad daybell was so thrilled he had to keep up the lies and keep exalting himself and even moreso exalting lori as a goddess, in order to keep her as a lover. Pls see Hidden true crime channel and the JJ and Tylee silver linings podcast both here on KZread. You'll learn soooo much about everything connected to Chad n Lori and all the people surrounding them and this case. I've learned an incredible amount by going back to the start of the hidden true crime channel and just watching every episode on this topic. Same thing with the silver linings podcast. It's so eye opening on all of it.

@sharithompson1672

13 күн бұрын

@@runningfox9750 you’re a fan of True Hidden Crime as well! 😁 I think Lori does have mental issues. That doesn’t mean she didn’t know right from wrong but I believe she’d convinced herself of Chad’s idiotic lies for her own reasons. Justified getting what she wanted by any means all her life and it kept getting reinforced and growing (or sinking) levels until she ultimately rationalized the horrors she inflicted on innocent people by using Chads rhetoric to justify it. It was just to get what she wanted and she knew it deep down, but kept telling herself it was for some “greater good” because she had Chad to back up that narcissism. I think it’s good that she has to sit in jail and think about it for the rest of her life. Him? DP. What’s he worried about anyway? It’ll just give him a head start on that god gig he’s been bragging to all those “followers” of his.

@wolfmoon2010

13 күн бұрын

@runningfox9750 that’s exactly what happened in a nutshell, he got what he wanted first Lori and now all this fame, it’s just not exactly how he envisioned and he lost his freedom. He knew when they arrested him it was over.

@franklyspeaking4050

13 күн бұрын

This is the best synopsis of the situation! I couldn’t agree more. Watching from sunny South Africa 🇿🇦

@Soffity

13 күн бұрын

Good comment, and of course Lori suddenly has a ‘near death: experience’ as well and goes off to heaven and is told she is wonderful and hasn’t done anything wrong by her ‘dear friend” Tammy. No wonder Tammy was on antidepressants. Bet you anything that Chad was treating her badly and with great distain. How her children were treating her is anyone’s guess. I feel so sad for her. Also if Lori can talk to and visit JJ, Tylee, her dead sister and Tammy why can’t she contact Alex? Is that why Chad says he is texting him, cause Lori can’t.

I love how lori’s calling chad out “u didn’t tell me I’d be the one in jail! Wtf? Did u intentionally lie to me?” Chad: um, no, I didn’t lie, it’s just a minor glitch in this glorious perfect plan, it’ll be ok, you’ll get out of jail soon. Even your deceased brother said so. I have confirmation, I can see the future. Don’t doubt the all mighty chad! Lori: I don’t know. This seems f’d up. U should’ve come up with a much better plan

@abbyarroyo6748

13 күн бұрын

Yes 😂

@BCGirl822

13 күн бұрын

😂 yes! That’s exactly what they were really saying

@heatherdewey3693

12 күн бұрын

Brilliant recap!

@user-yf6cd9bb8t

12 күн бұрын

Good reading between the lines.

@bonnie_gail

2 күн бұрын

exactly right !

I didn't hear one single thing that was funny in that call, yet Chad giggles incessantly. How anyone bought his bs, I'll never understand.

@heatherbeach4696

13 күн бұрын

Ikr? Chad is completely and ridiculously GROSS

@NancyDrew1

13 күн бұрын

Chad has Lori thinking he’s connecting with Alex? Seriously??? Do I have that right?

@daphnegarrard7807

13 күн бұрын

Nervous laugh

@dejuhvu1793

13 күн бұрын

What’s scary is the fact there’s at least 3-4 more people roaming free who believed everything Chad said and didn’t question anything when people started dropping dead. If those gullible people join another cult, we’re screwed 😮

@Jag...

13 күн бұрын

​@@NancyDrew1 That must be why he giggles. He can't believe she really thinks he can text Al.

I think Alex got a motel so he could shower there being afraid they would find Tammy's DNA at his apartment.

@kristirogers7071

13 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@karenmerritt3170

13 күн бұрын

Great point.

@gbuckwheat5722

13 күн бұрын

Maybe had some evidence to discard too, like a pillow!

@emmrivera8857

13 күн бұрын

But they would know whether or not he had a room. This would be evidence.

@angellawyer

13 күн бұрын

Why a motel if Emma is so near by?

I can’t see the overwhelming soulmate vibe from these too. Chad seems awkward and trying too hard to keep some kind of conversation going. Lori sounds like she is tip toeing around verbalizing that she didn’t get what she signed up for. They’re both screwed in the end. And many innocent lives have been lost or changed forever for the worse.

@kellyj3544

13 күн бұрын

That’s exactly how I took it.loris pissed she’s in jail and it’s not going how it should or how Chads “visions “ said and he’s just trying to laugh it off like oops sorry honey but you are hot still my goddess 🙄😂

@paulinegrant4156

12 күн бұрын

Completely agree. The Chudster sounds bored and struggles to find anything to say then giggles inanely to fill up space. I'll bet good money that he thinks he's got away with it and is making plans to move on without her.

She said “down paymentS”. Sssssss. Multiple. Bodies. Lives. They sacrificed multiple people.

@kodidrollinger4768

13 күн бұрын

I feel like this call didn’t come through as clear at her trial. If the jury didn’t think he was guilty by now, they definitely do.

Charles was so much more interesting and handsome. What a trade down... Lordy

@crystal25288

13 күн бұрын

Definitely a downgrade 😂

@TheToniaczek

13 күн бұрын

But Lori needed someone who sees her as godest not as not perfect human being

@alison2649

13 күн бұрын

AND well-off. He could actually provide for her. Chad never provided for anyone ever. His wife was the primary bread winner

@dsmusicbird

12 күн бұрын

@@TheToniaczek Definitely living in an alternate reality. Some strange realm of fantasy and total nonsense. They feed each others narcissistic ‘needs.” Being highly irresponsible, immature, extremely bizarre ego, insecurities and more. 🤮 One would’ve ended up killing the other had this gone on longer. Just beyond stupid and pure evil!

@blackwidor

12 күн бұрын

Charles was hardworking and loyal and tried to get her help for her mental illness. He was a great husband who she didn't care an iota about. I'm so glad he changed his life insurance. Any of us normal women would he thrilled with a husband like that . Not lori.

I don’t know how Chad was able to convince people, he’s not a good speaker, he’s like a Gomer Pyle.

@1234cheerful

13 күн бұрын

Folksy. and they wanted to believe.

@elsedutch4972

13 күн бұрын

By that you know how stupid people can be 🤓

@bethanymock4581

13 күн бұрын

I watched a video of a KZreadr reading one of the books he wrote and doing commentary on it... I don't understand. He was a shit writer and just such a flat person in general. I just don't see how someone could view him as a superior or leader, someone who could guide.

@msaijay1153

12 күн бұрын

​@@bethanymock4581was it Paul reading the one foot in the grave book? I feel like that gave so much insight on Chad and his messed up brain.

@Catherine-qs5pb

12 күн бұрын

Facts‼️

Mr. Pryor has done an admirable job considering what he had to work with and all by himself. Researching thousands of pages of evidence entirely by himself is a huge feat. Chad got better than he deserves.

@runningfox9750

13 күн бұрын

And he's not gonna have crap left to leave for his kids. Nothing. (Who would want that property anyway, where two dead children lay for nine months? Emma had no problem moving right on in!!! Same day the police released the place-- sick!!)

@unfabulouslifeofkim7836

13 күн бұрын

​@@runningfox9750Pryor owns the property now. Chad signed it over to him a couple of years ago as payment .

@clare2401

13 күн бұрын

I think so too. He's gone in there as a one man band. I was annoyed when Chad's trial got pushed to this year, for my own selfish reasons, but I completely get why. The work he's done, for let's face it, an absolutely lost cause, can only be admired

@alison2649

13 күн бұрын

Unfortunately ya you might be right. All Pryor has to do is create just one juror to doubt the level of participation Chad had in all of this. And he’s sort of doing a good job. Ugh

@danidan9917

13 күн бұрын

​@@runningfox9750not to mention where her momma died!

Nate has to be one of the nicest reporters ever, such a nice man with a calm manner.

His inappropriate and creepy laugh makes my skin crawl. 😬

@alison2649

13 күн бұрын

She’s SUCH a fool

@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie

13 күн бұрын

Mad & full of menace!

@mynameiseve.1

12 күн бұрын

If it werent so cringy it would actually be hilarious! Imagine being Lori and sitting in jail and asking her husband all the time, when am i getting out and he is just laughing and not giving answer. Only saying "the only thing i can say is that its 100% true". Id want to smack him for that. Bet he isnt giggling anymore when he gets arrested. Disgusting excuses for humans!!

@mjegan72

12 күн бұрын

Everything about him is so ick.

@sarahhunter1114

12 күн бұрын

Ya, talk about getting the ick!

I feel sorry for the Detective that HAD to listen to that crap!

@melanie3500

13 күн бұрын

I came to say the same thing! So cringe worthy!

@SusanaLandry

13 күн бұрын

Lori's voice was acting like everything was fine and dandy...

@yawninggap2328

13 күн бұрын

Totally! that creepy nervous laugh and nonsense that comes out of his mouth

@Rg-hc6or

12 күн бұрын

SO sorry for him! 🤢

Lori: "We didn't know when they dug in the back yard, that they were going to find, whatever". Remember this is BEFORE the bodies are found. Proof that she knew.

My 2 cents… I believe that by Chad’s saying that he can text Alex, he’s insinuating that he can communicate with him through the veil. Lori’s saying that she can’t text anyone and that she needs to tell Chad to text for her, implies that only he can reach people beyond the veil.

@user-yf6cd9bb8t

12 күн бұрын

Except, in Lori's trial, it was apparent that she believed she talked with Tammy and Tylee in the spirit world. Lori said she could see beyond the veil and talk to people who had died. (I can't remember her exact words) so people on here are saying that Chad said he had to text Alex. So apparently, Lori can't talk to Alex in the spirit world because she has no phone in jail to text him. But she could talk to others in the spirit world, because they can be reached without texting. Alex's spirit can only be reached by texting. And Lori has no phone in jail. Anyway, it sounds like that is how they were thinking. It doesn't make much sense to anyone. But if these two knew how to make sense of anything, Lori would not be in jail, accused of being a serial killer. Chad would not be in court, accused of being a serial killer.

@wolfkin_uk

12 күн бұрын

@@user-yf6cd9bb8t It might simply be that in the intervening years while she was rotting in jail, Lori decided that she had some powers, too....

I will tell you one thing, if I lived near Chad’s property, now, I would certainly have cameras up…I wouldn’t trust Emma, either.

@robertdailey5112

13 күн бұрын

Me either I wouldn't trust none of them kids.If she was my kids teacher I sure would be taking her out of her class she's a nut just like her father

@annettelacey7913

13 күн бұрын

Yes me either,I have a feeling she knows exactly what happened to the victims,She didnt seem shocked when the police dug up JJ,she was giggling with her dad talking about money & moving into her parents house,She thinks tammy was a zombie that's why she dont care her mum was murdered?She is dangerous I think,She was scaling her students light and dark,how she is still teaching is scary,

@doreendaykin6693

13 күн бұрын

Amen🙏💙

@Ofwaterandclay

13 күн бұрын

The interaction between Emma and Chad was so bizarre. She wasn’t even moved. She knew something.

@nadine8785

13 күн бұрын

Yes agreed, she also said she calls Lori and gives her money in prison, speaks volumes to me! Her poor mother having to put up with Chad all these years and then he murders her, God rest her soul 😢

The constant giggles! He’s such a creepy weirdo.

@itsjustlaurel1531

13 күн бұрын

I thought he was older than Jr. High-school.

@utezahn3174

13 күн бұрын

They are both creepy. She is ice cold.

@lizintexas1134

13 күн бұрын

Giggles when he can’t give her an answer. Ain’t nothing to giggle about while your beloved sits in jail. Also those long pauses where chad’s brain just can’t make it up on the spot.

@NimLeeGuy

13 күн бұрын

Deceiver's delight. She's like a child.

@NimLeeGuy

13 күн бұрын

She's not his beloved. He only cares about control.

It must be heartbreaking for Tammy's father and siblings to hear this testimony, and that Chad considered Samantha dark. If the children still believe he is innocent after this trial, they are in a delusion too. The can still love and even stand by their father, but they need to face reality.

Nate, your advice about trying to ignore the awkward giggling was gold. This is my second time listening to it too but now I HEAR what he is doing. He told her that Alex told him to tell her this is just a part of the plan that gets them to the end times where they are the leaders of the one hundred forty four thousand. He’s chuckling because he knows he’s lying and it works to string her along as if everything is very relaxed. The REASON is to save his own skin. If she continues to believe in him, he gets to have this ongoing fantasy with her as his captive, worshipping damsel AND she won’t start squawking to the cops. He had to have been terrified about what this unhinged woman could reveal about him. He’s filling the silence with his giggles to placate her while he spins one lie after another.

@suzanneortega3293

13 күн бұрын

Agreed

@runningfox9750

13 күн бұрын

He had to keep the fantasy alive in Lori's mind because he feared if she were ever to snap out of it and realize she'd helped to murder five people and yes I count Alex too ... Then she might cooperate with the police and Chad would get the crap end of the legal stick. I personally doubt her mental state will ever allow her to snap out of it. She would never be strong enough to face what she's done I don't think.

@smorgan298

13 күн бұрын

​@@runningfox9750 agree 100%

@lindseyhendrix2405

13 күн бұрын

Wow! Incredibly well said AND I love your username 😂🤙🏽

@jamaicacornish8931

12 күн бұрын

I agree . I caught a lot more

Chad sounds drugged lethargic dare I say a Zombie 😂

Chad knows he's making it all up. What idiots.

@dianealarcon8304

13 күн бұрын

His leadership position went to his head. Unbelievable that so many drank his kool-aid 🙄 ⚖️🪦🪦🪦🙏🏻☮️

@terryarmstrong8598

13 күн бұрын

He wings it when he talks to Lori in the jail call.

@guadalupelazar2384

13 күн бұрын

PLEASE I HOPE THE JURY GET THIS RIGHT THIS MAN IS EVIL HE WILL DO IT AGAIN TO SOMEONE HE NEED TO BE STOP NOW!

@1234cheerful

13 күн бұрын

@@terryarmstrong8598 🎯

@tresaten476

13 күн бұрын

A lot of nervous or weird laughing from both of them in that call! Chad says all those lovely things to Lori so she doesn't throw him under the bus. She was trying to get him to incriminate himself so she would get off or get off more lightly. Two narcissists playing a cat and mouse game! 🐀 🐁

In my opinion, Chad knew he was a fraud but Lori believes every word and still does. Lori never threw Chad under the bus but he threw her under the bus real fast.

@alison2649

13 күн бұрын

The jokes on her eh? Big time

@joannemurdock7899

13 күн бұрын

Well said, and listening to this conversation hes still conning her😮 hes such a fraud, 😮 and why is this sicko guy laughing and giggleing at her is he still enjoying THE fact he can still.. convince her of ANYTHING and EVERYTHING 😮? UNBELIEVABLE

@AliciaL98

12 күн бұрын

I think that was his plan all along. It sounds almost as if Chad is disengaged and was going to move on soon.

@patriciajones915

12 күн бұрын

They both believe they will be together in their next life

Nate! I love how much you celebrate your family! Thank you for taking time away from your life to do this!

Didn't anyone think it was strange & telling when Lori started talking about digging in a backyard and saying that you never know what you're gonna find-when she was talking about the pool show? If I was the cop listening to that it would definitely peak my interest.

@itsjustlaurel1531

13 күн бұрын

Right? Was that a threat?

@LoriEvans-dp7kg

13 күн бұрын

The police searched the yard & found the kids the next day…is this *why the police moved into the backyard?

@kristenhammer3313

13 күн бұрын

I thought the same thing when I heard her say that.

@lindseyhendrix2405

13 күн бұрын

Yeah, it first struck me as weird when she claimed she had been watching “extreme pools” in prison! And keep in mind, they thought they still had another month until the end of times Chad predicted in July. Which I think leads back to her talking of digging, it taking a few months to finish, different blueprints and soil, etc. Just weird all the way around.

@awesomebeautiful8782

13 күн бұрын

Pique

I think Chad picked Alex up so the neighbors wouldn’t see a strange vehicle at Chad’s house late that night, remember that his daughter and son in law live across the street.

@user-fx7sp6wc9q

13 күн бұрын

Good theory.

@icequeen6512

13 күн бұрын

If they truly believed in " their cause" or their 'mission' whatever it was they were supposedly trying to accomplish, then why all the smoke and mirrors? Why all the speaking in code etc Usually ppl who have a strong sense of belief in their convictions are not afraid to stand by them. They are not afraid to voice them. For me it proves that they knew exactly what they were doing was wrong and it was down to being evil. I call BS on all of this ' I believe I'm working for God" baloney. They are nothing more than simple, evil liars..

@alison2649

13 күн бұрын

Nailed it

@jeannemarie5908

13 күн бұрын

I thought this today also

@blackpoppymagazine

13 күн бұрын

That's a really interesting theory

That’s why Lori was so mad. He missed twice!

Detective Ray Hermacillo is a BOSS!!!! Love that guy!!! ❤ from Pensacola

You are one of the best, fair, honest reporters. Not to mention you show up without fail. Kudos, Nate! We appreciate you so much.

Bet if Chad was the one in the jail he wouldn't be giggling quite as often!

@susanromani1149

13 күн бұрын

I thought he was locked up already. Not sure why I was thinking that!

@koolhandlukemakemyday8812

13 күн бұрын

He makes me wanna 🤮

@jaimebell7971

13 күн бұрын

​@@susanromani1149 He is in jail, they are talking about when that phone call took place. Was while Lori was in Jail and Chad was out.

@mraereed

13 күн бұрын

He is locked up already but he wasn't when he was on those recordings with Lori. Only she had been arrested at that point. ​@@susanromani1149

The 5 problems. Charles, Tammy, JJ, Tylee and Brandon.

Your notebook should say 144,000 questions I need to ask prosecution

@bonnie_gail

2 күн бұрын

lol

How can she stand having a conversation with him. He sounds bored and stupid.

@alison2649

13 күн бұрын

And lethargic

@amberchase7959

12 күн бұрын

Because Chad is bored and stupid

@Colacat2692

12 күн бұрын

I think they stroaked each others ego. They both got something out of it. Her believing everything he told her and she loved beeing adored by him- telling her how important she has been through their multiple lives together.

@evehalliday9928

12 күн бұрын

She's stupid, too.

Nate I sure hope you get a promotion!Your coverage is amazing!! You are trusted, ethical and an awesome reporter! Thank you!

@go_dawgs1776

13 күн бұрын

I concur!!!

@juliec1618

13 күн бұрын

THE BEST 😊

@Maryaliece

13 күн бұрын

Yep....he needs to come back to VA! LOL!

@southerndelight54

13 күн бұрын

I don't know what I'd do without Nate, I'm so used to watching him. ❤

@kristirogers7071

13 күн бұрын

I’m pretty sure he started East Idaho News? So he IS the boss. Would love to see Dateline hire him, though!

To hear them giggle during the call is sickening! For real 🤬

Part of the cringe is that Chad and Lori are talking like they don’t really know each other well. Like it’s early in their ‘dating’. They also sound so mundane yet they are diabolical. Ugh.

@reneesantiago6496

13 күн бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking!! It’s very bizarre!

@Soffity

13 күн бұрын

Well they don’t know each other very well. They spent their time planning how to kill Charles and Tammy and the rest so they could get the insurance money and be together they didn’t have time for much else especially after a session with The Storm. Chad had to go back to his cupboard under the stairs and Lori to fooling her whole family and the police.

@1234cheerful

13 күн бұрын

True, but they have only known each other as red hot lovers, in fantasy united through the ages. Not as co-conspirators (allegedly) in a multiple contracted murder plot. They don't really know how far each is willing to go for the other.

@MissJensk1

13 күн бұрын

I agree about that. It's awkward, not comfortable & intimate at all.

Wow the last part of that call was very revealing. Chad sounded so unconvincing, like he was tired of all the lies but was just doing it for her-but Lori still ate it all up.

@misskelly9821

13 күн бұрын

Definitely…Chad knew they were doomed regardless how he kept trying to reassure her everything was going to work out..and if it doesn’t? Blame Alex..he kept texting Chad saying everything was working as planned…smh

@SnailWhales

13 күн бұрын

He couldn’t bare to let her know he was a fraud and lose the energy supply she gave him. He jumps right into his monotone Mormon blessing speak to placate and brainwash her back into submission. 😅

@amysmiles9751

13 күн бұрын

Yes, he sounds like, oh crap I have to keep this up.

The prosecution is doing an awesome job

Nate: I would ABSOLUTELY love a town hall event where you interview a bunch of people involved in this trial. I think it would be a sensation!!! I think you should do a documentary about your coverage of these trials. It would be soooo fascinating.

@heatherdewey3693

12 күн бұрын

Fantastic idea! I'd buy a ticket to that event.

Yes I would absolutely watch the LIVE stream with the prosecutors, detectives, forensic experts, medical examiner, anthropologist, etc. That would be incredible!! Thank you for all you do, Nate and for the many sacrifices you are making in your personal life to cover this horrific case. ❤

Listening to these two repulses me in the sense that they are both sheer evil. I keep thinking of the innocent beautiful children and that is the biggest loss of all. Their dumb nervous laughs and all their cryptic messages to one another is despicable.

@andreacg774

13 күн бұрын

Yes! And I hate how Melanie Gibb and Melanie Polowski KNEW and were never stood up and said anything! 😡

Please Remember Charles too- not just JJ, Tylee, and Tammy.

@Eyes.WideOpen

13 күн бұрын

I dont think anyone has forgotten about Charles. It's just that this trial is about Tammy, Tylee and JJ. The trial for Charles is soon, and Maybe all the victims won't be listed in every comment then either. Mayne some will just say Charles, but that won't mean Tammy, Tylee and JJ aren't thought of

@sittingonariver

13 күн бұрын

And Joe Ryan

@VirgoLove1972

13 күн бұрын

Just remembering them because that's what this trial is about. Charles trial is next!!

@elan007

13 күн бұрын

And Lori's sister???

@jeanP924

13 күн бұрын

​Absolutely, Joseph deserves justice. His story with Lori was exhausting to hear about the bitter custody battle over Tylee Ryan but What was Colby's name before she met Joe Ryan? Why doesn't he have his biological fathers last name Is that what was on the birth certificate or was he left off and never paid child support? That is one thing about his last name I've always been curious there's any legal documents showing he aquired that name through the courts. I've always been curious why Lori would want her son to have the last name of the man she accused of assaulting him in the worst way possible. As we know now the courts proved both kids were coached what to say and if there really was sexual abuse going on it was not from Joe. jmo​@@sittingonariver

Remember the night of the ‘paintball’ gun incident, there were lots of texts and calls going on after between Chad, Alex, Lori and Zulema..remember the gun didn’t fire..and Zulema in her testimony recalled Lori getting a call from someone and that she was extremely angry and exclaiming that “idiot”..can’t do anything by himself!

Does sound like Lori isnt fully believing in chads powers now. She is sitting in jail all by herself.

I love Ray hermosillo he has been amazing he has been so fierce in all of this and got so emotionaly involved when he would talk about how these children were found he was 💔 my heart breaks for him himself and all the rest of these guys will never unsee this horror I wish them all well

This is NOT the conversation of an innocent man impatient for his goddess to release the children's live whereabouts, where is the demands for her to let authorities know so that they can be together?

@1234cheerful

13 күн бұрын

True! He doesn't need to ask, he knows exactly where those children are.

Chad reminds me of a stalker, in the way that he both knows and doesn't know the truth of his own fantasies.

Congratulations Elliott Eaton! The first of many exciting graduations to come in your life.

Chad has the personality of a rock.

@HKavarana

13 күн бұрын

Or maybe a potato 🥔

@lauries.nicewaner3876

13 күн бұрын

He's as sexy as the Pillsbury Doughboy

@juliepowell6656

13 күн бұрын

Or a gnat!!?

@LadyOaksNZ

13 күн бұрын

Or a sloth..

@dsmusicbird

13 күн бұрын

😂

It was a BIG day. Let's hope the jury got it.

@KayDSavage-dy6of

13 күн бұрын

I think his fate was decided a while ago. the rest of this trial is just a formality. he should get the chair imo.

@dianealarcon8304

13 күн бұрын

So far, I don’t think the jury will be swayed by upcoming Defense witnesses. We’ll see what they have to say next week.

The phone call is giving me second hand embarrassment. The long awkward pauses. The weird uncomfortable giggling. The code words. Lori sounding absolutely off her rocker while Chad texts her dead brother. This is what happens when someone with extreme beliefs meets someone mentally unwell.

They should not let him write any more words, not in text, not in paper, no writing at all. His words are dangerous.

@monicascott2354

13 күн бұрын

Believing it is the bigger issue.

@SirSmorbie

13 күн бұрын

and dumb

Chad & Lori talk like they don't have a care in the world.

@kellyewers5692

13 күн бұрын

They don’t, they think what they have done is for God.

@TheMrRatzz

13 күн бұрын

​@@kellyewers5692 I really don't think they believe this portal / dark / zombie stuff. It is just a backstory to wanting the children out of their lives.

I am so glad that Tammy didn’t know it was a real gun.

Did anyone else notice chad mention his deceased neighbor who chad may be the reason he’s deceased?

I can not for the life of me understand how Lori believed that he was texting alex in the spirit world. Those giggles from Chad were astonishment that Lori believed him.

@dsmusicbird

12 күн бұрын

Especially all the religious phony stuff to result in ending lives especially that of her children’s! It is beyond comprehension!

Well done Elliot!!!!!! WooHoo! When you are a man you will see your Dad in his videos standing up for Justice for Children not much older than you. We are proud of you for helping your Daddy and Mommy ! 🎉🥳

@lindseyhendrix2405

13 күн бұрын

Amen to this! Big whoo hoo’s for you all the way from Texas:)

After A.G. Investigator Nicholas Edwards gave his Evidence &. Testimony, &. Dear Larry Woodcock stood up &. Tapped a Thank You on Edwards Arm, as he was leaving the Courtroom, was a Lovely moment to see.😊

Chad seems so shallow he can’t even carry a conversation except for a few words here and there. I don’t know how he held all those people captive in his conferences 😂😂😂😂

@SirSmorbie

13 күн бұрын

I doubt he did. There were only a handful of people in this "church" of the first born. They seem to mostly be Lori's friends

NATE!!! That is EXACTLY what truly matters - graduations of our little ones, all the benchmarks they make. Thank you for sharing 'happy moment' with us. Congratulations Elliot!!! :)

Prosecution : if an Aircraft has no engines and no wings can it fly Prior : Objection, Speculation

@dianahernandez1709

13 күн бұрын

Right?!

@daisyunderwood1002

13 күн бұрын

😂

@jaimebell7971

13 күн бұрын

So funny!!! 😂

@jackiejohnson7158

13 күн бұрын

😂

@runningfox9750

13 күн бұрын

Lay some foundation pls. In your experience and training will the aircraft fly? No objections.

Yes! The most important thing happening today is Elliott Eaton graduating! Congratulations, Elliott! I love what one person commented here: your Daddy and Mommy are working for justice for children. You are such a lucky boy and I hope you enjoy your summer with your family! 🧑‍🎓♥️💐🌹🙏🏼🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

The equivalent of Chad pretend working on his computer is like scrolling through the weather app cause no one will talk to u at the party.

@heatherdewey3693

12 күн бұрын

😂truth

Chad and Lori sound so uncomfortable within that conversation. They sound like work colleagues rather than husband and wife. I think its clear their relationship was hollow, and their only commonality was the religion. Its so sad that everyone had to die just for that. Let's be honest. If none of this had happened, if the kids and Tammy were still alive, do they HONESTLY think they'd still be together? The whole thing was built on sand

@human-sn7lk

11 күн бұрын

Totally agree. Even if they were speaking in code, so boring. Starts and stops and giggles and Chad struggling to sound coherent.

I couldn’t stand to listen to those calls. That poor officer that had to listen to their rediculous giggles.

@IhaveS0ldMyself

13 күн бұрын

Imagine that 12 times a day for idk how many weeks

@bia.miller

12 күн бұрын

@@IhaveS0ldMyselfI would have lost my senses. The incessant stupid giggling and wretched lies. Argh! Absolutely vomit inducing! 🤢🤢🤢

The giggles are sick.! Chad and Lori both are sick!

I hope that phone call infuriated the jury as much as it did me. That would have done it for me if I were on the jury.

Been crying all day today as my grandmother just died and I am thinking that some people are so lucky to live a long time, poor these four whose lives we taken to sort.

@polarbearsaysyummy5845

9 күн бұрын

May your Grandmother R.I.P.

Nate, do contractors often tell their clients to tell his wife “he’s missing you” 😂😂😂😂😂

@patferguson9377

13 күн бұрын

You think it could be David Warwick? And who is the 3% is it Mel that snitched on them

@amysmiles9751

13 күн бұрын

​@@patferguson9377Chad had told her there was only a 3% chance their plan wouldn't work out and they could be together after Tammy dies. Then Lori got arrested and Lori's thinking well things 100% chance I'm not with you now, wtf. I think "he" at the end is he acts like he has a direct line to God and he's seen the furture. Maybe I'm naive but I don't think Mel and David ever thought they would kill the kids but they started to feel sus about all the secrets.

@gridspir

2 күн бұрын

The 3% person that Lori wanted to know if Alex was dealing with was I believe Kaye, JJ's grandmother who is the one who got the police to look for JJ after she hadn't spoken to him for too long. Also, Charles had changed his life insurance policy beneficiary to Kaye instead of Lori. So Lori was very upset with her.

Elliot Congratulations! Such a proud dad! ❤️❤️🎉🎉

I love the longer episodes! Please don’t apologize. So many of us are invested in this case and you have guided us through. Take all the time and keep us informed 😊

This habitual giggling by a man in his 50s.... he sounds like an arch villain in a Batman series... The Giggler.

That is finally settled. Dylan Rounds never deserved murder. I hope the family can feel a little peace and justice in their lives. Such a great loss.

@Soffity

13 күн бұрын

Does anyone know why he killed Dylan? Dylan seemed a pleasant hard working man who just wanted to make a success of his farm.

@deadmanswife3625

13 күн бұрын

​@@Soffitywas it before they dug up the property and bury the children? Maybe it was Preparatory work to eliminate a potential Witness I don't know much about it yet Perhaps it will come out as more people question it

@dsmusicbird

12 күн бұрын

@@Soffity I want to know why too!

@1234cheerful

12 күн бұрын

@Soffity from local news he parked his truck in a shed where Brenner didn't think he should have parked it.

I think the gigging is partly due to these two thinking they’re fooling people by talking their “code” talk since they know they’re being listened to. I go back and forth wondering if Chad actually believes his crock of sh--. So some of his giggling might be due to him getting such a kick out of how Lori just eats up his crazy crap. It’s all so unbelievably evil, there are no words.

@iloveamerica53

13 күн бұрын

💯Exactly!!!

@bluemoonofky8468

13 күн бұрын

He was writing his books about his "fantasies" so I think he half believed what he wrote and half was sure of himself that others believed him and wanted everyone to BELIEVE IN HIM! He's just delusional!! IMO

@runningfox9750

13 күн бұрын

He knows it's all lies. A tonnnnnn of background info on this entire situation can be heard in hidden true crime KZread channel then the podcast also on KZread that's called JJ and Tylee silver linings podcast. It's so much info beginning back when this case first started. I know Chad knows it's all lies because he took his "near death experiences" from other people's books and podcasts.....he had never ever told a single friend or family member that either of his two accidents had caused him any visions or near death experience or anything. Until many years later he's suddenly making those claims in books....... books he wrote by stealing and plagiarizing pieces and parts of Julie Rowe and five or six others books once he saw them selling big, talking at conferences and making big money in the 2010s.... Before that he was just a plain vanilla nobody who held positions in the church and had Tammy be the main breadwinner for the family. As his false books and talks became popular he began telling bigger and bigger whoppers about things like dark and light spirits, portals making people travel through space and time. As well as all the reincarnation talk. This was also information he stole from other radical ex Mormon "teachings" that Lori's uncle rex said he remembers being something that went around in the early 90s, among young adult Mormons. It's fringe teachings the church does not stand behind so ppl did it in secret circles and clubs, like they were the special ppl who knew What was REALLY GOING ON ....uncle rex said he looked into it way back when he saw that junk and learned it was just fringe junk that seemed to go around every generation or so and most people dismissed it all as trash. Anyway chad was using all the above to lure in these women and occasionally a few men who seemed to be the type who Needed to feel special and as if they Knew things regular church folks didn't. Chad used it on other women before Lori just none of them seemed to become full fledged physical affairz....tho a few ppl believe it became an affair with Julie Rowe. Pls see Hidden true crime channel and the JJ and Tylee silver linings podcast here on KZread. Both channels have a Wealth of information regarding every aspect of the Chad and Lori situation. Loads of interviews with key people and sooo much background info into Lori's life chads life and everything surrounding this case. Hidden true crime channel and the JJ and Tylee silver linings podcast. You'll learn so much.

People: Please don't ask her when she knew Lori was guilty. The only answer she can give is "after all the evidence was deliberated" unless you want to give the defense grounds for mistrial...

@runningfox9750

13 күн бұрын

Nate will be the one actually asking the former juror the questions. Therefore certainly no dumb or dangerous questions will be asked. Think.

@Maisiewuppp

13 күн бұрын

You have obviously never done jury duty.

@JoobieLoobieSoobie

13 күн бұрын

@@Maisiewuppp I have done jury duty and I have been a foreman. This is why I know she should not answer a question like that in public. She has an answer, of course. That doesn't mean she should say it out loud.

@JoobieLoobieSoobie

13 күн бұрын

@@runningfox9750 Yes, but we all know about a thousand people will request that. Maisie up there, for example.

@elizabeth_820

12 күн бұрын

It's her opinion of facts that are in evidence and her opinion. She's not a witness so it can't cause a mistrial.

There NEVER were ANY abs to tighten ... the delusion on this MONSTER

I truly believe that Lori and Alex really believed it…. Lori needed to be special and Alex was just not smart. I believe Chad really wanted it to be true and he even tried to convince himself. He needed to be special too, and he really needed to justify his affair with Lori….. I think the prosecution has been right from the beginning. It’s about sex and power….

Chad should just give it up and make an agreement! He doesn’t stand a chance

@peachesinthecity4099

13 күн бұрын

Selfish for one. Instead of leaving the property for his children, he used it to pay for an impossible defense. Dragged his and Tammy's family through all this media coverage of 2 trials. If he so "exalted" why is he afraid to die?

@loveforeignaccents

13 күн бұрын

A plea agreement hasn't been offered, and he would never admit what he did. His children think he is innocent.

@monette7819

13 күн бұрын

💯💯💯💯

@kimberlynance2711

13 күн бұрын

A sociopath will never give it up.

@kimberlynance2711

13 күн бұрын

@@loveforeignaccentsabsolutely his kids, brainwashed by Chad, stand 100% by their father.

The comment Lori made about digging up the backyard was HUGE. Told cops where to find the kids.

I texted a live contractor is code for I contacted your deceased brother in his after life & he said for u to believe everything I tell you, no matter how ridiculous

Chad & Lori are bonkers delusional and the denial is unbelievable! Like kindergardners discussing Santa. Some heard he's real, some heard he's not. They all know he's probably not real, but hang onto the fantasy and are bummed things aren't as magical as promised.

@monicascott2354

13 күн бұрын

Sounds like religion, too. Beliefs can be dangerous.

@lindseyhendrix2405

13 күн бұрын

This is a PERFECT analogy! “You text him because I can’t. And you promised I would get ____ for Christmas, but I didn’t! It’s complicated!”

Thank you, Nate! I will miss this daily update when it’s over! You have been a light in the darkness!

Thanks so much, Nate, for showing us photos of your son's pre-school graduation ceremony. It is a bone-deep relief to see a loving father so visibly proud of his son. After 7 weeks of Chad and Lori, it's like balm on a wound.

Can’t listen all day so I love these wraps ups!

They all went over the "blueprints". Chad reassured them they would work. Alex was the contractor to carry out the blueprints. Now that he's gone, Lori is wondering if the blueprints are going forward or have changed. Lori said she would be in charge if she were not in jail. "Since I'm here and I can't be in charge of the project."

@NancyDrew1

13 күн бұрын

Who else was dark and without Alex the plan has changed.

@onika6357

13 күн бұрын

@@NancyDrew1 Chad says the plan is still going forward, according to Alex (Ray) whose spirit he talks to.

@bluhuny

13 күн бұрын

Chads blueprints, Alex the contractor and Lori the supervisor.

@alison2649

13 күн бұрын

Good catch

They are ridiculous, full stop.

Poetic irony that Lori is watching “Off the Deep End” in prison.

Dear Elliot, Well done from Stoke on Trent, England! A beautiful family and your Daddy is an excellent journalist who is keeping us all up to date on this shocking case. The Eaton family is just the tonic we need!

Nate Im really hoping you write a book on this case.

@polarbearsaysyummy5845

9 күн бұрын

Agreed. He's the definitive expert on this case.

Congratulations to Elliott! An awesome achievement!!

CONGRATULATIONS LITTLE MAN! 🎉 happy graduation ❤

So proud of sweet Eliot. You are so right your son graduating is very important!!!!!! Blessings to your family for sharing you with all of us! Great job tonight Nate! Thank you for all you do. Hope you get some rest

I think Lori was passive aggressive in the phone call and Chad was nervous and dismissive.

@dsmusicbird

13 күн бұрын

Yup! Two peas in a pod (prison)!

@itsjustlaurel1531

13 күн бұрын

Exactly. She is not getting her way and is manipulating the master manipulator.

@dianealarcon8304

13 күн бұрын

Two peas in a portal 😉

@mardyross2838

13 күн бұрын

Good one! ​@@dianealarcon8304

@OscarFrosty

13 күн бұрын

@@dianealarcon8304 lol!

Elliot!! Best News of 2024! 🎓❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻

We’re here on Nateline!

🎉🎉🎉 Congratulations Elliott! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 You're on the way to big things!!

If my kids were missing the first question out of my mouth would be "Have they found my kids yet? Are there any leads?" Not about their projects, blueprints, texting her dead brother, pool shows etc

@misskelly9821

13 күн бұрын

One idiots in jail and the other idiot is trying to stay out of jail and yet they talk about blueprints for some present and/or future project and texting a dead man..a pool? In Idaho? Sounds like the “pool” is code for something nefarious.

@monicascott2354

13 күн бұрын

They weren't missing, and she knew that, so she wasn't asking.

@GiniRisinger

13 күн бұрын

@@monicascott2354 I know that. I meant if she was trying to hide it better

@SirSmorbie

13 күн бұрын

@@misskelly9821 ya think?

Best scoop ever. Congrats to Elliott

Nate, you cover this story better than *anyone* !!!

Ugh! Those phone calls and texts! Chad and Lori may you live long miserable lives in your separate prison cells.