We’ve heard this before. Blades aren’t going anywhere

@8evvied

9 ай бұрын

Just trends isn’t it, everyone will be using them again at some point

@Discgolf_RD

7 ай бұрын

Still makes no sense if the modern day cavity back still has almost as much workability as a blade to use a blade unless you just like the feel. But why punish yourself for being 2 mill off at impact.

@Destins2

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@8evviedyou say everyone will be back using them but hardly anyone I know uses actual blades, your average golfer and even above average usually are hitting thinner cavity backs

@8evvied

7 ай бұрын

@@Destins2 A lot of the pro’s still use blades, me & my playing partner use blades too. They still have a place, all it would take is someone TaylorMade to do their classic marketing about a new bladed iron and everyone good enough to use them would want them. Blades have always been a low choice iron because they’re the hardest to hit but they’ll never go away, I mean, Tiger still uses them…

@LikeCheckSaver

7 ай бұрын

@@8evviedlol doubt it

Alot of the top teacher say blade are such a brilliant training aid. And logically if you games blades for a year Regardless of ability Learning to hit a blade When you move back to a cavity back you’ll make quantum leaps in your game.

@brockwalls1413

2 ай бұрын

Pretty much what I did. Bought blades not knowing what I was buying when I first got into golf (I just thought they looked cool), switched to a better suited set a couple years in, and it was almost like I flipped a switch.

@jonesjobe6202

Ай бұрын

I game Titleist 680's. Adam Scott and maybe a few other tour players are known to use them. I don't know if I will ever be able to take them out the bag unless I get a perfect set of irons fitted for me. I wish the 4 iron was more forgiving at times of course but the distance and spin control with them are u believable. And the shot shaping capabilities I must add

@andynaz5631

28 күн бұрын

When i first started playing an oldtimer told me to play blades for training. I did and got better faster. Now i play Yonex N1-CBs. And They are fun and forgiving. Still play the Mizzy MP-14s just for fun and don't do too badly with them.

@RidgelineJames

6 күн бұрын

I played Wilson FG’s and man they beat me down but my ball striking improved quickly.

@atamagashock

2 күн бұрын

That’s what I started with. My first set are stupid thin, like half the sole depth of my 790s and if the shafts weren’t noodles I could still play them today.

Hybrid set of irons are where it’s at. PW-7 blades 6-4 half cavity half blade

Blades are the stick-shift of golf.

@thlee3

8 күн бұрын

thats actually pretty good analogy 🤌🤌

@YoungDisciple90

3 күн бұрын

@@thlee3I agree

@JM-qn3tf

3 күн бұрын

Yea & why would anyone want to hassle with that.

@arrr3344

5 сағат бұрын

@@JM-qn3tf Better control.

I play a full set of Wilson FG-17 Tour Blades, absolute butter knives. Original, traditionally lofted heads from 1983, on DGS300's with blue, midsize compund grips. I play them 1/2" under length for better control. Nice high, spinny flight and excellent precision ability up and down the bag. Hit these things flush and they'll drop and stop the ball right where you want it. And they're actually a lot more forgiving than people think.

Cavity backs and blades all shank the same

I played off a 20 for most of my life and swung callaway X-series irons. 6 months ago switched to Mizuno blades and while the initial transition was tough, it forced my swing to have to get better. The cavity backs allowed me to burn in bad habits whereas the blades demand more precise shots. It has also slowed my swing down which helps control, workability, and injuries. I am now off 12.9

@tomspencer4371

21 күн бұрын

You just need to be properly fitted. You should not play blades. IMHO

@timothyrosman6371

21 күн бұрын

@@tomspencer4371 My objective is not MAXIMUM FORGIVENESS. it is feel, enjoyment, and I struggle mentally with yips during the swing. Forgiving clubs enable me to over-swing which causes poor strikes and injuries as I get older. My Mizunos force me to have a repeatable pre-shot routine and a smooth swing and tempo in order to make the best contact. The proof is in the handicap and I enjoy the game more with the clubs I have - that's my motivation.

@tomspencer4371

20 күн бұрын

@@timothyrosman6371 did i say even once what your objective is? I am TELLING YOU as a golf professional respectfully you just need to be fitted by someone that knows what they are doing. You absolutely should NOT be playing blades. I look at what you said with your handicap and think of what “could be” not “what is”. But i digress. Enjoy!

@timothyrosman6371

20 күн бұрын

@@tomspencer4371 If you don't know what my objective is, how can you give advice? If my goal is exercise and playing fun courses, a fitting is not going to add or subtract from that. Improving my handicap means absolutely nothing to me with where I am with my game. I'll play whatever I want and enjoy the game in a way that best suits me.

@Dailygolflife

12 күн бұрын

@@tomspencer4371as a soon to be golf professional you are a bad example of what we should be. He said he doesn’t want to get a lower score but he likes the feel of a blade done simple as that. Don’t go and tell him he’s bad at golf so he shouldn’t use a blade your opinion is wrong and not wanted he’s not a future golf professional he’s a guy who plays golf for fun. Get you garbage opinions out of here if you can’t even support the sport that you dedicate your life to.

I play blades, and they have been amazing for my game. Personal preference, obviously, but I love the feel and look

@Yihooni

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, looks don’t get you birdies😊

@1dale1dale

17 күн бұрын

@Yihooni Did you actually read my comment?? I get more birdies with my blades. I've played with MB and cavity irons, and there's really not much difference. If you have a shit swing, it doesn't matter what you hit. The only thing I lose with blades is a small amount of yardage on the long irons, but it's minimal. Have you tried playing blades? Or is your comment just biased or trolling?

@cleveland2022

10 күн бұрын

Totally agree

@cleveland2022

10 күн бұрын

​@@1dale1dale100%. Totally have had the same experience

I have p770 always get flyers switched to the TWs so much more consistent. I do have the TWs 1 degree strong though from standard

I did the opposite and switched to something less forgiving. I believe it’s making me a better golfer. It’s forcing me to swing properly and make good contact. I like knowing that my good hits are a product of a good swing. Scores have suffered very little.

Played Miura MB-101’s for 15 years. I’ll never change. I love them

@oozieneinmillimeeda

19 күн бұрын

I’d love to try Miuras, way out of my price range unfortunately lol

@cleveland2022

10 күн бұрын

Sharp looking clubs for sure

I play blades 7-Pw and cavity backs 6-4 irons the blades make the longer irons feel much easier to hit which suits my game. Anyone 8 handicap or lower should be able to play blades at the higher irons at least.

I use the Cobra RF MB copper blades; not the protos, but the production models. No, I don’t hit every shot perfect. No, I can’t hit a 7 iron 200 yds. I play them, because I like to play them. You get what you put into them. Swing not in tempo? Ouch. Mishit? Ouch. They have made me a more precise player. I find art in that. I’ve shot my best rounds of the year playing these clubs. One week, I went 73, 72, 75. I’m thrilled with that, and I enjoyed the art that I created playing those blades. I’m never going to be on tour. I’m never even going to regularly be a scratch player. I’m just a working stiff, that goes out when he can to enjoy the game. As a test for a week I took out some Callaway Apex irons. Played worse. Didn’t enjoy the feel. Not as fun. And they were a lot easier to hit. There’s something awesome about playing blades, and when I do get to play on a good course, which I usually can’t, it sure is nice hitting those blades off the nice fairways. Just so much fun and rewarding.

@robertedwards3551

9 ай бұрын

Nicely said, it’s not always about the score

@JakeDar67

5 ай бұрын

IVE GOT THE SAME IRONS They aren’t EVER coming out of the back

Immediately following this release, Tiger and Taylormade marketing department scheduled a meeting to discuss contract violations...

@aidangriffiths5075

9 ай бұрын

Because he decided to play one of their other irons that were available to him ? 😂

@michaellischio7617

7 ай бұрын

@@aidangriffiths5075talking glowingly about those irons too!!!

Blades are not going to die off. I just changed my to Titleist 620 MB and my ball path has been amazing. Precision is better than distance.

I use titleist 714MB. Wont start using cavity back until I play senior tees 😂

@cleveland2022

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

I did the exact same thing and I went from a scratch golfer to a +5.4. It’s ridiculous how awesome the 770s are

@cleveland2022

7 ай бұрын

They are nice looking clubs

I tried some AP2’s for a while but my distance control suffered, it was harder to flight them low and shape the ball the way I like, they didn’t feel/sound as good plus they simply don’t fit my eye and I have less confidence over the ball with a chunkier head. My iron game/GIR has always been my greatest strength on the course and I’ve been playing essentially the same titliest MB set up since 03 when I got my first set of 690’s. I know they’re going to do exactly what I want them to do, the cavity backs just seemed to want to go high, long, straight, with less spin no matter the swing you put in them. Shaping the ball into different pin locations is what I do best and I truly believe switching to MB’s when I was younger was a huge part of my iron game getting as sharp as it is. The last tournament I won I hit 16/18 GIR on Sunday in brutal wind, one of the greens I barely missed and actually made birdie on then the other was i intentionally laid up and missed the 18th green to play for bogey so that one hardly counts when I could of went for it easily from 180ish but I was 5 ahead and won by 4 on one of the toughest public courses in the country (33rd). Also even though I’m a good driver of the ball, I only hit driver twice all weekend, my ping 1 iron and titliest MB’s won that windy tournament for me no doubt. I think I’ll stick to my blades.

@1KsE1

7 ай бұрын

Nice story mate. Needs more dragons

@johnblaker2454

2 ай бұрын

This is exactly what happened to me. For me, the combination of increased ball speed with decreased spin on off center strikes with cavity backs makes it very hard to control distance. I definitely hit them farther, and on decent strikes they are straighter. But 2 or 3 times a round I'd hit one and it would nuke 20 yards over the green. For some reason, only cavity back players are convinced that anyone who plays different clubs than them must be doing so out of ego or some other mental problem. If any company starts to make super forgiving irons that don't have really hot, high spin faces. I'll be first in line to test them.

When someone says something along the lines of “people are driven only by their ego to play blades,” they clearly are just insecure. …play what you want and don’t turn golf equipment into a pissing contest!

I played blades for decades (yeah I'm 60+ yo). It was all about feel. Forged blades had a feel, sound, setup look I liked. I changed away from blades a few years ago for non-blade TM irons and graphite shafts. The difference is that with new manufacturing processes, I can get the feel, sound and setup look of a blade and pick up a little ball speed.

I found a 9 iron blade and I play ping cavities so it’s fun to see the difference on the range. Blades are lighter and shaping the ball is easier but if you don’t strike it right he’s right you lose 10-15 yards easy. But when you hit it pure you feel and see the difference

I’ve just gone to Srixon Z forged II’s. I’ve never played better golf

I started playing with blades, became a pga pro in 5 years of playing. Went to the T150s last year and got my handicap to a +5

Best ball striking for me came mith my Mizuno MP-60's with the cut muscle. Forced me to make good swings. I actually chose to hit the 3-iron. lol

@marybetheby5184

Ай бұрын

Still game a 6 -PW set with R300 steel shafts. I love them..

@cleveland2022

10 күн бұрын

Same here. I had the Mizuno MP 57 Cut Muscles and they were one of my favorite irons. Now have a combo set of Player Distance 6 and 7 Callaway Apex Pro, and 8-AW in the Callaway Apex MBs

@walterhollman8735

10 күн бұрын

@@marybetheby5184 I dearly miss mine. If I could find a lefty set, I'd buy them tomorrow.

@marybetheby5184

10 күн бұрын

@@walterhollman8735 I hear ya. I've let go of many clubs I wish I still had. It's a long list.

Blades going nowhere

The p770s are the bomb. All the goodness of the P790’s but they don’t look like hockey sticks!

As a relatively good golfer that's always bought the irons I know I can actually play it blows my mind when I see this

When I was playing many years ago, I was off 9 and my ball striking was off the chart. I moved from Taylor made burner 09 to mizuno blades. When I tried them out, I hit them great. Once the deal was done, I hit every iron from PW to 3 iron 150 yards! 😂

@michaellischio7617

7 ай бұрын

Can’t beat the consistency in a blade 😂😂😂

@cleveland2022

10 күн бұрын

​@@michaellischio7617😂😂😂

blades taught me how to hit the ball... time to go to cavity backs and drop 3-5 strokes

I think the gap between modern blades and forgiving irons is much narrower than historically. Historically, the stereotypes were accurate, but now modern blades can be quite forgiving and cavity irons can provide workability. Ultimately, if you swing well you’ll play well, so buy what you like and have fun

I learned to play blades and it changed my game. Worked on short game after and now a single digit handicap once i retransitioned to CBs

Best thing I did is switch to blades, 4-pw (titleist 620 mb) will never go back to cb. Was stuck shooting mid to low 80’s, now with blades shooting low 80’s to mid 70’s they made me want to become a better ball striker and got me to fix my swing.

Been golfing for two years ..idk i hit blades way better always have ..i need that jumper i don't hit irons as far as good golfers ..slow and accuate catch it off the face is money

Remember ppl if you're really good then go use whatever you want. The rest of us loves our CB

The fact is, forgiving irons help better players more than they help bad golfers. They do what he says, mishits go the right distance. Bad golfers hit chunks, thins, pulls, slices and shanks. Game improvement irons have almost ZERO effect on those kinds of bad shots. From the 7 down, they do very little, even for good golfers. Bad golfers can't hit the longer irons anyway. I know this because I am a bad golfer who used to be a single digit.

@bladeduffer

19 күн бұрын

"The fact is, forgiving irons help better players more than they help bad golfers." How? Mishits are mishits, regardless of your skill level. Game improvement irons don't exist. Better golfers aren't "improving" their game with them any more than bad golfers are. want something that actually improves your game, play blades. Also, what I noticed on the tour is that players that are forgoing traditional blades are going with something more like a cavity blade rather than a full cavity back.

I always think of cavity backs as the chunky irons with the massive visible gap behind them.. i think hollow bodies are the future

Love my p770 carry from 5i to 9i but i have a tm blade pitching wedge from 8 years ago that i still love lol

sorry Rick but blades will never go away

I played MacGregor blades for many years until they began to fall apart on me when I was in my late 40s. I'm 74 now and I play Wilson LP 2s as I can't hit blades anymore. The 770s look quite seductive but I have to go with what works for me. My game is on the downslope now and I'm never going to be any better so I'm just trying to minimize the decay in my game. But, always use what works for you.

Just watched a video, and this could be different for the middle HDC irons, but blades are actually more consistent distance wise, than ultra forgiving irons. (Ie darkspeed irons, p790s, etc) The spin is much better and you lose maybe 10-15 yards vs 35ish yards on similar mishits.

@johnblaker2454

2 ай бұрын

This is correct. Its why I'm selling my P790s to go back to playing MP-5s. I lost 4 shots on approach strokes gained due to distance control issues with hot faced irons. The people who buy into the concept of "forgiveness" are just falling for marketing. The data doesn't lie, some pros love hybrids. Others hate them. Why? It's not that "hybrids are more forgiving than long irons", its that hybrids maintain ballspeed over a larger area of the face. That could be good or bad for you, depends on how you strike the ball.

It used to be easy to hit meant harder to shape and less spin. With modern tech that’s not true anymore. Only advantage to blades is feel, not performance.

If u want to become an elite ball striker u need to start off with blades or atleast have a blade 7 iron just to practice with, I recently got p7tws and I’m playing the best golf I have been

@cleveland2022

7 ай бұрын

I agree.

Wilson Model CB's are ridiculously good

Technically the p770 is a hollow body iron and the p7mc is a cavity back but ahhh whatever. If you are a robot, you will be more consistent with blades or the p7mc, apparently. There's more info about that on cool clubs website.

“Best golf I’ve ever played because I went to a more forgiving iron” yeah and that’s why you’ll never make the tour cut grant, your ball striking just isn’t good enough, night and day difference between throwing a p770 in the 3 iron slot

I never understood why pros would not want forgiveness as well.🤔 This guy says it best. It's an ego thing.

Love the 770s

They have been saying this since the 1980s.

Depends where your game strength is. Mine is irons and "long wedges" (130 to 40 yards, say). I play blades P-8 and (very shallow) cavities 7-4. But I'm streaky at driving and suck at green reading. Some would score the same as me with good drives, good putts and average/bad iron and wedge game... They would be much better off with a thick-ish hollow set of irons.

I just have 14 putters with various lofts.

Could we see the return of the Mizuno MX-20 and MX-23 range? Now that would be something.

I remember in college many years ago I was one of the few players not playing blades and I would get goofed on. Why would I play blades when I can play an iron that performs better? Cavity backs are so good now you are literally putting yourself at disadvantage playing blades unless you just don’t miss center of your iron. The other great thing is nowadays caving backs look great behind the ball

Blades offer the ability to advance your play at the cost of learning to more skillfully and precisely strike the ball. They will always exist because where there is 2 friends using cavity backs, someone needs to feel more dominant and needs to justify and prove their own skill and effort put in to the sport. They switch clubs, brag about how they learned to hit blades, but then fall off and start hitting poorly again. Or only improved 2 strokes and put in twice as much practice as before. Honestly seems like only necessary if your already nearing scratch and you want to up your game while in your prime. Too many suburban dads over 30 or 10 handicap golfers think they are one blade set away from making tour.

Muscle back, cavity back irons are game forgiving

I love my 770’s

I was about to make an argument for people to keep playing blades, then I looked at the set of Cobra F9s I play, decided not to make that argument.

I refuse to play shovels.

There are advantages to blades...consistent distance and spin, but the best part...you'll discover that the blades aren't the handicap, you are. Are blades made for better golfers, or do blades make better golfers? Had that question answered a long time ago.

The difference between P7TW and P770 is huge. Maybe try P7MC.

Blades are boss I don’t see the big deal. Hit fizzing shots with them 7i to pw.

He’s talking mince. P770 has jumpers but not in the way people think. It’s just really bad around the sweet spot which is where most live so that one out the middle, goes the distance it’s meant to. Club golfers and competent hitters aren’t the same. A distinction that’s left out of these conversations.

The 770 isnt really a cavity back but its not a blade...its something between. They Re forgiving...but not hugely like a true cavity back.

100% agree bro! I play the p7MC/p770 combo set and I absolutely love them! Blades are overrated imo! Even some of the best in the world are playing a p770/P7MC COMBO SET

I play my best with blades. The thinner, the better. I've tried to go to cavity backs a couple times but I always go back to my Mizuno MP 69s. I just can't hit an iron with any thickness to the top line. Can't explain it. Just is what it is.

I have a new set of TM P7MC's in 2024'. I have to say I am not a fan of the co-forged tungsten, polymer filled irons. They are way too 'Cheezy' and strong lofted. Irons should be made to a std loft, like 30* - 6 iron and 46* - PW.

I think blades should be required for the pros and off the rack only drivers,woods and hybrids. No more need for rolled back ball.

@cleveland2022

10 күн бұрын

Play more difficult courses, no ball rollback needed

Blades will be here forever I have a set of MacGregor Vfoil blades. - i hate playing them but they make you a bettet golfer. I play a set of cobra ltdx for some forgiveness

I can shank a blade just as good as a CB

I started with cavity back and got to about a 16 handicap. I switched to blades and couldn't break 90 for about 6 months....grinded away and consistently hitting mid-80's now.

If people miss hit a cavity back and end up pin high it shows they cant club very well or they are talking shite. Miss hit a club and hit one well they both go the same?? BS. If you miss hit a blade you come up a bit short but the benefit is they are more consistent. You don’t have to be a worldy to play them either. Another myth

Unless you shoot 67 every round with blades there is absolutely no reason to play them. Ive known several low handicaps thinking they are good enough and it ruined their game until they went back to some sort of small cavity. I never understood blades cause no one not even the pros hit it absolutely perfect each shot. If even once per a round you come up 10 yards short of the pin with blades its not worth it. Blades are also always played by guys that shouldnt be playing them lol.

TBF Grant playing the TWs was complete ego. Even Trottie wanted him in something more forgiving.

Theres a reason those "blades" are named after and built for "tiger woods" , why would any amateur think they can strike it like him? Big EGO there alright

Not a big fan of CBs. Blades and Player Distance Combos work the best for me. Blades will always be desired by the best players. I have 8-11 iron as MBs and 6-7 Iron Player Distance iron

P770s ftw:)

I’ve never played golf and cared what anyone had in their bag. Neither has anyone commented on my 923 Hot Metals as being a helper iron. Honestly, Im not sure why everyone doesn’t play a more forgiven iron. What’s the point?

Smh cavity backs are not as aerodynamic as blades. Blades have instant feedback at impact and cut through the wind like butter.

lol companies will always offer blades, but today only the top 1% of golfers should be using them. If there are tour pros who don’t play blades, what makes you think you should be playing blades?

I thought P770 were blades? But the TW's are just a bladier blade if that makes sense?

@actfrm600

Ай бұрын

P770 are hollow body “game improvement” irons but they still have the classic “blade” look just a little thicker top line and more offset.

@darrenrider5676

Ай бұрын

@@actfrm600 I thought that's exactly what the P790 was?

@actfrm600

Ай бұрын

@@darrenrider5676 both the p770 and p790 are considered game improvement clubs. They are nearly the same club the only differences being the 790 has a slightly longer blade length, thicker top line, and more offset.

@darrenrider5676

Ай бұрын

@@actfrm600 personally I'd call them players distance irons rather than game improvement irons, but the difference is so small it's hard to tell them apart

guy adds absolutely nothing to this podcast: "rip to blades."

Very little reason to play blades now unless you grew up playing them. Irons like the ZX7 and i230 should be on every good players radar

nice ad

Grant good golfer but he's only popular because of GM and he left them behind seems ungrateful

Thanks for growing the game and making it easier… go find an old set of MacGregor 985s and learn how to hit them in the middle of the face at speed. Sorry … not a fan of easy golf.

Im playing blades til i die. You c words can do whatever

I don’t understand the logic of “pride” when it comes to clubs lol. Isn’t it more shameful to play like crap? Lol

Blades are OVERRATED boys

No they aren't dead.

Lol blades are better

Blades will never go out of style. There’s so many amateurs who either want to play what the pros do or think they’re better than what they are. Drop ego & say you are not that guy.

White people

Anything that isn’t a blade is cheating because your results and outcomes are not a direct result of your ability.

Blades will always be around, if only for the ego factor if nothing else.

Blades are delicious If my blades were female I'd marry mine 🏌‍♂️👍

Hard Texas ground will forever favor a low bounce club

Going to a less forgiving iron has significantly helped my game. I struggled pretty hard at first but I’m now striking it better than ever and can even shape my shots. They demand higher concentration and finesse and can make you better because of it.

@cleveland2022

10 күн бұрын

Yes exactly