While the investigator was struggling to open the evidence box with the scissors, he should have looked up and asked “does anyone have a knife.”

@organicnature2679

2 ай бұрын

😂

@Freakazoid12345

2 ай бұрын

lol

@michaelhollis764

2 ай бұрын

Bruh

Another example of how alcohol ruins lives.

@babyjane87

2 ай бұрын

Another example of how some people shouldn’t touch alcohol! Most of us can drink socially and sensibly

@thebeasters

2 ай бұрын

I've drank my whole life, and a lot. Never stabbed, fought, killed hurt or otherwise. It's lightweight entitled idiot rich kids in a mob mentality situation, fueled with alcohol on top, that leads to this

@mr_hankey1619

2 ай бұрын

​@@babyjane87I think you mean why instead of how, what you said didn't make sense. Nobody is calling you an alcoholic, it's okay..

@thaGod_KingARod

2 ай бұрын

Guys I'm simply using this example and the many others in which alcohol has been abused and it's devastated those involved . Let's relax and mature. If you're not one of those examples. Good for you. Geez!... Some folks are so quick to defend the indefensible. Even when the example I commented on was just viewed?!? #stopit

@HardestEli

2 ай бұрын

⁠you don’t even need to be an alcoholic for it to ruin yours and someone else’s lives.

Never heard so many "I DONT RECALL" statements by so many Witnesses in a Trial EVER !!! 🙄🙄🙄

@contentedspirit9022

2 ай бұрын

Go watch some Congressional committee videos. That's the most used statement made.

@elpapito7809

2 ай бұрын

It was 2 years ago

@MistyMtnMan

2 ай бұрын

That's what lawyers tell you to say if you aren't 100% certain. I had to be deposed before in a corporate law suit and you use that statement more than you think you would, otherwise you'd be lying. It's ok and encouraged to say you don't know.

@davidwoolley707

16 күн бұрын

It’s been 2 years though

It’s almost like this lawyer was not ready. He is pulling questions out of the air

@tallgirlhappyme

2 ай бұрын

Prosecuter or Defense attorney?! I agree on Prosecuter.

@gagecarlsen3872

2 ай бұрын

@@tallgirlhappymeprosecutors are lawyers too! 🙄

@pinhedmcgee7891

2 ай бұрын

@@gagecarlsen3872 Dog, where are you braincells? Tallgirlhappyme is obviously asking who dandonalson is referring to. Go back to school

@twinkletoes6290

2 ай бұрын

@@legpad5857only one of the defense was part of Rittenhouse’s defense team, the bald guy who was the one questioning the witness in this particular video.

@New_Zealand_1

2 ай бұрын

I am really liking the Defence Attorney

Lawyers are paid handsomely to ask some dumb fucking questions

@audreyandlinCompany

2 ай бұрын

I think they're all govt. employees. Besides, if you're trying to prevent overturn on appeal, what kinds of questions would you ask?

@tableactiongamesdunedinflo3083

2 ай бұрын

@audreylin3466 I gave up after the 109th question about a riverbank and no not all lawyers are gov employees.

@audreyandlinCompany

2 ай бұрын

@@tableactiongamesdunedinflo3083 I meant in this trial. fwiw I am not a lawyer but many people in my family are both in private and public.

@audreyandlinCompany

2 ай бұрын

@@tableactiongamesdunedinflo3083 the prosecuter mumbles his questions.

@forpetessake3532

2 ай бұрын

you have a LAW DEGREE? you even grasp why they do that ? ANY CLUE ?

This case just gets worse as the days go by….

@MzSweetz01

2 ай бұрын

Yes, it does 🤦🏾‍♀️

@jjgloom

2 ай бұрын

A case of when 2 parties don’t walk away from a confrontation

Bad decisions on both sides!!! When stupid collides, you have a tragedy like this!!

@therealz360z7

2 ай бұрын

And they expect this man to live the rest of his life in prison .

@ian5780

2 ай бұрын

Sanest comment in the bunch. I sympathize heavily with both sides. Totally avoidable and ridiculous situation

@jjgloom

2 ай бұрын

Yep if just one side walked away this would of never happened

@Croymedic

2 ай бұрын

When Stupid, Alcohol and Pride collide.

@vanesaserrano7053

2 ай бұрын

@@ian5780sympathizing with a murderer is crazy.

Does anyone know what Maddie testified to? Pretty sus she requested to not be filmed or recorded!

@poboxchristmas380

2 ай бұрын

and she deleted her evidence that she claimed to have on her phone.

@missmochiicecream

2 ай бұрын

take your brain out of your true crime rot bucket, please

@slingblade6858

2 ай бұрын

Big time suspicious! Conspicuously absent from public scrutiny. She was pivitol in the escalation of this mess.

@terr777

2 ай бұрын

Seeing as how it's a public trial, yeah.

@poboxchristmas380

2 ай бұрын

@@slingblade6858 yeah and everybody mentions her like she was the boss of the river and controlled everybody. She clearly escalated the events and now she's not wanting to step forward?

what an absolute joke this prosecutor is

@ShaneDanger42069

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. He just rolled out of bed with a hangover and showed up for court with no prior preparation

How can the investigator not remember, this is crazy. no one remembers anything.

This case should be a lesson to all. This world is full of crazies the asylum doors no longer exist and you should never feel entitled to safety EVER. Because the psychopaths are all over the place more than anyone wants to admit. If someone is being weird, making you uncomfortable GET AWAY FROM THEM. you just don’t know what they could do and it’s best to avoid. Don’t confront the freaks just get away no matter how tough and capable you think you are it’s not worth the consequences of confrontation.

@alesia912

2 ай бұрын

This is the most logical comment I’ve read.

@patrik3482

2 ай бұрын

This case proves that all zoomers are fcking psychopaths that encircle lone person in groups and attack for no reason.

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

And don’t bully anyone. You never know how the bullied will respond.

@skyebrock7406

2 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you on this one.

@lisatappero7401

2 ай бұрын

Or you could just not bully anyone.

Paul Blart: District Attorney

@r.j.martin1818

2 ай бұрын

Isn't this the guy who tried to send Kyle Rittenhouse to prison for life?

@rachelmartin3862

2 ай бұрын

@@r.j.martin1818no. But the one defense attorney was Kyle’s defense attorney

@Amy-zs8tx

2 ай бұрын

Or Jonah Hill! He even sounds like him!! 😂

@cristineconnell7803

2 ай бұрын

​@@r.j.martin1818No, the bald defense attorney was on Rittenhouse's defense team!

@thebeasters

2 ай бұрын

​@@r.j.martin1818you mean the guy that crossed multiple State lines, and used a weapon that wasn't unregistered to him? To defend a community that wasn't his? And shot an unarmed person and killed him? That red hat Rittenhouse? The judge literally had him coddled up in his seat lol

After watching the full uncensored video it’s really hard to side with the kids here.

@LL-wc4wn

2 ай бұрын

He charged at them and walked around them and grabbed onto their tubes. Allegedly he struck a woman in the face according to many witnesses there. It wasnt until after that he got hit. And before anyone had touched anybody, he had his knife out. He ran over and got into their space. The fact you could then say it was their fault is mind boggling. Yeh drunk kids tend to heckle you if you come at them into their space like he did. He also struck first according to several people there not part of the boys group.

@mmmel7193

2 ай бұрын

@@LL-wc4wn They surrounded him and pushed him down into the water. Another one pushed his head down. This was all before the knife was out. Did you not see the same video? I'm not saying what he did was acceptable but the teenagers instigated the situation. They may be young but remember it was a group of young more able-bodied men surrounding a single older man who was intoxicated.

@edwinv196

2 ай бұрын

All of those witnesses were shown to not be credible. Some of them admitted they didn't see it, some said it was a jab, some said it was more of a hook, some said she fell down when she didn't, some said it was the left hand others said the right. They said they took photos, there are no photos. The video didn't capture it. There is a lot of good reason to doubt it even happened.

@LL-wc4wn

2 ай бұрын

@@mmmel7193 this absolutely was not before the knife was out buddy.. when the 3 women come over from the shore and they stand in front of him.. the court saw he had his knife out THEN... before he allegedly struck one of those women in the face. But either way there is a massive screenshot/frame of him with his knife out before anyone touched him

@susangutierrez-chadwick2220

2 ай бұрын

@@styphlynne8253 No he wasn't, he was looking for a cell phone that belonged to one of the people in his group. The person that dropped the phone in the water told Miu to not bother because it is in a waterproof case and insured. Miu CHOSE to go, he was after those kids not doubt. Not to mention, the shoving was done by another group AFTER Miu punched a woman, stabbed another individual then disemboweled another. None of which were with the teenagers. So explain how it is the teenagers fault that a total psycho stabbed and murdered several people.

The investigator really needed a knife to open the box with the knife.

@jjgloom

2 ай бұрын

We live in a simulation. Change my mind.

@absolutelyfookinnobody2843

2 ай бұрын

​@@jjgloom nah, the angel dust already did that

Basically both parties in the wrong. Both should’ve just walked away

@susanbartlett9987

2 ай бұрын

Coudn't agree more. Both sides behaving badly.

@vanesaserrano7053

2 ай бұрын

one side was a murder and the other was annoying, don’t think that’s equal.

Can't you just mute things instead of putting that horrible white noise in there

@cristineconnell7803

2 ай бұрын

They do the white noise to insure no errors in muting & possibly allowing key info out! I have to turn my volume down quick with that stuff!😂

What was the point of wasting time taking the knife out of the box and opening the blade

@missmochiicecream

2 ай бұрын

To show the jury the murder weapon in person so that they can see it in a space. It becomes a more tangible object when they can physically see it.

@notsure188

2 ай бұрын

@@missmochiicecream It's not a "murder weapon" yet until the jury decides it is. At the moment, it's just the tool in question.

@craiglockwood981

2 ай бұрын

@@notsure188 No it clearly is the murder weapon. Miu stabbed Isaac so forceful he broke 2 of Isaac's ribs and sliced his heart. If a person shoots a person with a handgun and kills the person, the gun is the murder weapon.

@craiglockwood981

2 ай бұрын

The knife was sent out to the criminal lab in Madison. Opening the box in front of the jury showed the knife was tampered with.

Is it just me or do these lawyers seem unprepared? Seem to take a lot of time between questions and getting things....

That knife seems so small compared to the amount of horrendous damage that was caused with it.

@lizzeltired2155

2 ай бұрын

That’s because he was swinging it to get all of them off of him.

@ColdConceptG

2 ай бұрын

motion of the ocean

@lllmillll

2 ай бұрын

​@lizzeltired2155 wait whatttt No .. he was literally up when he was stabbing .. The crazy old guy could have walked away , instead he chose to stab and murder .

@Stray..

2 ай бұрын

@@lllmillll Exactly. Why is everyone acting like this is a feeble old man? He clearly felt like he was able to take them all on and clearly he was strong enough to gut someone. That isn’t something a weakling can do with an ordinary pocket knife.

@jojo-bu2sy

2 ай бұрын

Buck 110 sales are skyrocketing as we speak

He doesn’t recall if there were any other deleted photos ……. BS

@InMyPOV2u

2 ай бұрын

No kidding. Your dealing with a case in which someone died and you “don’t recall “ if photos were deleted?

@cristineconnell7803

2 ай бұрын

​@@InMyPOV2uDealing with probably hundreds to thousands of photos! Not hard to miss some.

The party that was injured played their part and i highly question how they were raised. The way they treated their elders is atrocious. Did they actually think you can put your hands on a person with zero consequence? In Oklahoma we have a thing that's called stand your ground we also have a make my day law make my day laws when someone breaks into your home and you have every right to kill them stand your ground law means when you are outside of your home if someone physically assault you and you are in fear of your life and there's a mass amount of people around you hitting you and shoving you down then you have every right to use deadly force to protect your own life it's a shame that this state doesn't take that very seriously the way that the teenagers behaved well young people they may not all been teenagers but the way that they behave just highly questionable they definitely incited if not provoked and caused it completely. They show extreme lack of judgment they were high and drunk and effed around and found out in my opinion. The damage that was done was significant him leaving the scene was inappropriate he should have distanced himself and waited for the police the rest of his party should have rendered aid to the victims however the elderly gentleman was a victim himself. Goes to show that alcohol is called spirits for a reason and it's probably the most deadly drug out there aside from fentanyl there's my two cents so may not like it but I don't care

@roger55.

2 ай бұрын

not reading allat

@jimmywilliams9824

2 ай бұрын

And wacky weed, too

@craiglockwood981

2 ай бұрын

Wisconsin doesn't have the "stand my ground law". Wisconsin has the Castle Doctrine. In Wisconsin a person who fears for his life must use every means available to them before resulting to the use of lethal force. I'm sure your state laws state the same thing. In this case Miu had the opportunity to simply walk away. Several people were telling him to leave the area. He stayed. Miu decided to use lethal force before he was in assaulted and knocked in the water. Miu is seen in the video unfolding a knife blade at his waistline. Now at this point he should have held the knife up in the air to show the group he was armed with a weapon. He didn't. Thus he is not using every method possible to save himself. At no point do you hear him call out to his group for help. Instead he hits a girl in the face in front of several young men. The girl wasn't a threat to him. Was she loud and in his face, yes. Still not a threat. The person that incited the violent, lethal part of this event is Miu. Thus he is guilty.

@mikesheppard5241

2 ай бұрын

The black kid got those other white kids stabbed with his world star bullshit

@dklien6443

2 ай бұрын

​@@craiglockwood981I pulled out my knife before in case I needed it for self defense. Pulling it out means nothing because he was not the aggressor imo. Those teens pushed a guy they thought would do nothing. I disagree with you. You are only seeing the outcome as a after the fact. Before the stabbing the teens had full control and would not stop. They escalated.

It's hard to find a deleted photo that never existed.

@vladdestroyer5177

2 ай бұрын

Especially if you cant even remember who took the non-existent photo!!! 😂

Clown show court system.

@teleskopossomnium

2 ай бұрын

always is

@donconnors3356

2 ай бұрын

See it as it is. Prosecutor can see the writing on the wall. Tough position.

Is it me or is there a lot of space upon between questions

@gfexc

2 ай бұрын

Yes, don´t expect a lot here. This St. Croix County, Wisconsin. The population of Star Prairie was 561 at the 2010 census. Just another slow day

@VanDaRifleman

2 ай бұрын

The attorneys were told by the judge earlier that they need to give time for the court reporter to record everything. That might explain why there are so many pauses.

In my 60 years of watching court proceedings either in person or on News & various other forms. This is the slowest and most discombobulated process of determining line of questioning I've seen. By all parties including the Judge. I have no idea what anyone is trying to get at. This defendant should receive an Appeal on this basis alone which in my opinion speaks volumes as to our criminal injustice system here in the United States. 😮

@Canadianvoice

2 ай бұрын

"Guilty until proven innocent". Its mainly because America has garbage media laws. News channels have way to much bias and no one tells the truth anymore, that gets passed on to its citizens. North America, Canada is apart of this phenomenon too we are broken as a society. No morals, religion isn't the answer either. It's just a pendulum swing in the opposite direction.

@somuchfortalent

2 ай бұрын

You opinion isn't relevant.

@2vcrew782

2 ай бұрын

I’ve noticed the level of competence across all industries and sectors has fallen tremendously

@2vcrew782

2 ай бұрын

@@somuchfortalent*Your

@lovelylioness7827

2 ай бұрын

I disagree, the defense was very prepared ironically.. I am usually not “for” the defense in most trials I watch, but in this case I am. What surprises me is how little prosecution brings up poor Issac. They are there to fight FOR HIM! Who is fighting for ISSAC?! so sorry this young man was taken so young.. I’d like to know a little about him, but no one brings him up. 🥹

Is there any photos or videos by others at the water of maddie getting punched?

@TheEnd-eg6wq

2 ай бұрын

No, there also hasn't been any ufo sightings.

@annebosworth7048

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheEnd-eg6wqsmartass

@annebosworth7048

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheEnd-eg6wqsmartass

@TheDkb427

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheEnd-eg6wqhey I've seen some stuff once lol. No video tho haha

@maridiancrest243

2 ай бұрын

He already had the knife in his right hand when they were both speaking to him. There is a snapshot of this. Also one witness who was filming said he grabbed her hair first. In order to pull of this feat without stabbing her he would have had to grab her lefthanded(he is right handed) then with that same left hand punch her as she comes in with momentum. He also would had to do this while not making her drop her phone or beer in either hand. She was also wearing sunglasses so that "punch or slap" couldnt have knocked those off either. Its clear that that the punch they are referring to is when they he stabbed her friend as thats when the video recorder first mentioned a women being hit. They thought it was a punch too or merged the two together in the mind. And that is what has solidified in their memory. (This is if you believe they were not all giving coaching to say thay he punched her even). Thing is even if they know he didnt punch her first, they have to stand by this or else the whole narrative falls apart.

Wow is this really in the U.S.A. What a JOKE SAD

@ShaneDanger42069

2 ай бұрын

It’s Wisconsin though

@susiepoadster4642

2 ай бұрын

@@ShaneDanger42069 so Wisconsin gets a pass for creepy old farts killing and maiming teens? No thanks

@l-train7876

2 ай бұрын

Yes, we believe in self defense. Hopefully the kids learned a lesson.

These videos show how the Idaho 4 case should have been handled. LEO here was spot on, did their jobs in expert manner. Impressive work.

Seems ridiculous questioning

The prosecutor is pathetic

@user-uu1hv8nv6i

2 ай бұрын

Can you tell me why if you can my friend 💗

@debbiepatterson6335

2 ай бұрын

@@user-uu1hv8nv6i He asks ridiculous questions. Too many pauses in questioning as if he is unprepared. His attitude and questioning is sluggish with zero enthusiasm and knowledge of the case. He would put me to sleep as a juror. If you read the daily comments I am not the only one who feels this way.

These are badly raised humans being bullies, act like a decent human dont get hurt....who got charged for all the underage drinking

@clutchboi4038

2 ай бұрын

Ah yes and the dude who went up to them and stabbed 4 people then ran away and ditched the murder weapon was raised as a saint.

@Nohomiskis

2 ай бұрын

@@google_is_a_criminalthey won’t be charged because it’s moot and the real case is the death involved in this situation. Wisconsin doesn’t prosecute DUIs. Just because your emotions want these teens dead doesn’t mean anything is going to happen to them because they were tubing and enjoying libation

@davidl.7027

2 ай бұрын

Why would anyone give a shit about underage drinking at this point 😂 that's just petty and dumb.

@davidl.7027

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nohomiskis😂 for real. They are over here talking about underage drinking and smoking pot. So silly

@neoandleia

2 ай бұрын

​@@clutchboi4038no one said he was.

This investigator must be as ignorant as this D.A..

Can the witnesses hear what is being said when they approach the bench? They act like they can.

@l-train7876

2 ай бұрын

They usually block their mics.

@johnnywriight

2 ай бұрын

Miu sure seemed very attentive to the bench when he was up there

Maddison Cohen was never slapped or punched. She instigated and perpetrated the attack on Mr Mieu.

This guy held the knife , blade up. He knew what he was doing.

@nillyk5671

Ай бұрын

Of course he did. He was defending himself.

What stupid question how many times do would we have about the knife are they going to use the wrong knife.

Irregardless, how can someone just go about their merry way knowing they just stabbed or cut people? Then play dumb in cop car saying i heard someone got stabbed.

@thedingo8833

2 ай бұрын

Look up the word”” irregardless””.

@OrtegaSauce

2 ай бұрын

In a state of shock.

@ShaneDanger42069

2 ай бұрын

He had the right to defend himself “irreegardles”

@stephaniesmart

2 ай бұрын

@@ShaneDanger42069 irregardless isn’t a word, neither is the majority of the slang in you tube comments.

@ShaneDanger42069

2 ай бұрын

@@stephaniesmart Thank you captain obvious. Note the quotations.

The kids weren't attacking him, they were taunting and teasing him. I think he was a little intimidated but: 1. He threw the first punch and at a woman no less, 2. He could have just left but his he-man pride made him stay, not the kids, 3. He used deadly force when it was not needed, 3. Looking at that one boy's wound, how Nic not only stabbed but also brought the knife up to gut him was a deliberately deadly act. He tried to dispose of the weapon, which shows he knew he had done something wrong and serious.

@calinandrei8374

2 ай бұрын

good jurist thinking

@thebeasters

2 ай бұрын

No

@williammccracken5654

2 ай бұрын

The ones that testified that he threw a punch were caught in other lies during their testimonies. No video and an allegedly deleted pic of her allged injuries. LOL

@calinandrei8374

2 ай бұрын

@@williammccracken5654 They probably concocted a testimony story before taking the stand....They knew they didn t have much chance of prosecuting....But still....Those are some nasty injuries....Even if it s self defense, the fact that he used that knive , will most certainly lead to involuntary slaughter...which could mean around 10 years in jail, and at 56 years with his health deteriorated, he s a dead man....And there is a chance that he wouldn t get involuntary salughter because at one point he charged with his knive towards them....And Maddison? Maddison was unarmed, and she probably had her back turned on him....Clearly this is an act of loosing his mental control, but the fact that he lost his mental control especially because he had 2 beers on board, is not self defense people....He is not getting very well out of this one....Tha chances of getting involuntary slaughter are very very slim....Nonetheless...he won t get less than 10 years of jail....That s a certainty... I could make money on this one if this was a bet placed on a betting casino....

@karemildred

2 ай бұрын

They were bullying him 🤦🏻‍♀️and having a great time. Using him as a punching bag, but when he decided to 🤷🏻‍♀️defend his self. Of yeah they stop the bullying. Probably this man suffers from a mental illness and they just triggered it and he just reacted. We don’t know. This should have never happened if they had treated him with respect. Im sorry for the young man that died.

He even said I heard some got stab knowing it was him they guy with the bat was not there as his attorney states he was scared.

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

That’s obstruction at most and does not negate claims of self-defense.

@cristineconnell7803

2 ай бұрын

He was definitely not scared, or he would have called for his friends to come help him! He also would have made some move to back away from the threat he was so afraid of! He did none of that, but acted guilty by changing his appearance, ditching the knife, & lying to police! He didn't turn himself in, they had to catch him! Not actions of an innocent man acting in self defense!

@cristineconnell7803

2 ай бұрын

​@@rockstarofredondoHowever it shows how doubtful a self defense claim is!

*Not impressed with the prosecuter.* So nonchalant. So bland. Seemingly unorganized.

@pno359

2 ай бұрын

“And can you just kinda tell the jury what you came upon?” The jury is being tortured by the prosecutor

@Jaypocalypse

2 ай бұрын

He doesn't have much to go on

@susanlucas1125

2 ай бұрын

VERY UNORGANIZED

@ShaneDanger42069

2 ай бұрын

He just decided to wing it after a night of binge drinking

It’s all on video I’m not sure what there is to debate… it’s self defense

@emmitt5443

2 ай бұрын

He walked away after the shoving and taunting THEN he came back instead of go back to his group - he came back and killed a kid and stabbed the others. That pretty much ends the self defense.

@hogleg8103

2 ай бұрын

@@emmitt5443 he didn’t come back lol the kids approached him same as the two women did. Rewatch the video after he walked off he stood there they came back shoving and heckling him. What he did was definitely justified. You people need to raise your kids better.

@emmitt5443

2 ай бұрын

@@hogleg8103 LOL who are " you people ?"

@hogleg8103

2 ай бұрын

@@emmitt5443 whoever agrees these kids did nothing wrong. Are you trying to bring race into this 😂😂?

@calinandrei8374

2 ай бұрын

elf defense with unncessary defense measures....

Worlds most annoying defense counsel. Except Elaine.

@calinandrei8374

2 ай бұрын

🤣She is a civil law expert though)))

@Sam4got

2 ай бұрын

ELAINE!!! Turn your mic on …ELAINE!!! 😂😂😂

At least show us the knife?

Imo, it would have been effective if the state had asked the investigator to hold up the knife with its blade open and walk in front of the jury so they could have a close-up view of the murder weapon.

I don’t think that girl he may have slapped or punched had an injury. The group clearly thought he harmed her. I don’t think the defense has gotten rid of that fact. Is there an assault charge for Maddy or whatever that girls name is? The video showed the girls in his face yelling at him both with their hands on him prior. Not sure what this is about unless there is an assault charge. The moment set off the rest but I think it is more relevant the group thought he hit her then there being an injury

@divawendy

2 ай бұрын

He is claiming self defence and had no injuries whatsoever, so Works both ways

@maridiancrest243

2 ай бұрын

He already had the knife in his right hand when they were both speaking to him. There is a snapshot of this. Also one witness said he grabbed her hair first. In order to pull of this feat without stabbing her he would have had to grab her lefthanded(he is right handed) then with that same left hand punch her as she comes in. He also would had to do this while not making her drop her phone or beer in either hand. She was also wearing sunglasses so that "punch or slap" couldnt have knocked those off either. Its clear that that the punch they are referring to is when they he stabbed her friend as thats when the video recorder first mentioned a women being hit. They thought it was a punch too. And that is what has solidified in their memory. (This is if you believe they were not all giving coaching to say this). Thing is even if they know he didnt punch her first, they have to stand by this or else the whole narrative falls apart

@Taykorjg

2 ай бұрын

​@@maridiancrest243 The only other thing they could go for if he didn't hit first is that he has a weapon and he is in a crowd of people that are not wanting him near them and he is doing nothing to deescalate the situation. A situation where he is the only one with a weapon.

@lizzeltired2155

2 ай бұрын

I would not go off of witness statements since nearly all of them were proven false by video

@neoandleia

2 ай бұрын

What the video shows is a couple of the kids smacking/shoving him along with the harassment/name calling before the actual stabbing.

I still can’t believe that after the DA was given all the video that they even decided to prosecute this man! Waste of taxpayers money.

@Beastmode42

2 ай бұрын

He ran up to a group of kids, hit a little girl, and after getting smacked like he obviously needed to be, proceeds to stab everyone within reach as he is still charging forward. Then ditches his murder weapon.

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@forusbyus1the video was given to cops day one. They didn’t even need to admit it. Then Isaac’s family suppressed the video coming out because they knew people would be incensed and demand Miu be released.

@kimcrouse3236

2 ай бұрын

He walked away, but came back

@thebeasters

2 ай бұрын

​@@kimcrouse3236he stopped when being approached by a rabid mob. He has just as right to stand there as anyone else

@Amitch592

2 ай бұрын

​@thebeasters your comment proves everything about that day

He can’t recall anything ……… 😂😂 Just like the Sherrif and cops

Nic wasnt scared, he was amused! You can see him smiling thru most of the video! He refused to answer when they asked what he was doing, except to say he was "looking for little girls." He never called for help, never appeared scared or worried. He never tried to leave, nor was he stopped from trying to get away. Indeed, they were encouraging him to go! Instead, he pulled a knife and killed a young man, because he thought he could get away with it! No one hurt him!But look at the horrific wounds he inflicted on 4 young people (who didn't even hurt him,) KILLING one! If you don't like the names kids are calling you, walk away! You have no right to disembowel anyone, or punch a young lady, no matter WHAT she says! PERIOD🔵

@nillyk5671

Ай бұрын

I've smiled in a similar situation too, not because I was enjoying it but because I was nervous. When he said he was "looking for little girls", he was simply being ironic in response to what they were accusing him of, being ironic is not a crime. Also, he did try to get away and yes, he was indeed being blocked from walking away safely. Did you even watch the video? Put yourself in his shoes or imagine your mother or father in that situation.

@nillyk5671

Ай бұрын

He never punched her, there's no proof.

Sir we all know how this works. Please make your point today

The man was surrounded and eventually attacked it was self-defense in my opinion! What would you have done if you were him, get pummeled by a group of drunken teenagers, or defend yourself? I do feel for all those involved including the stabber he's a victim in this too!

@mistymac9345

2 ай бұрын

He's an ex marine and was taking medication for PTSD...a fact not emphasized enough by the defence.

I guess it would have been inappropriate to ask if anyone had… 11:56

These drunk and high teens said that all Mr. Miu had to do was walk away and none of this would have happened. But you know what else? All they had to do was stop harassing and ridiculing him and it also never would've happened. But they never let up.

@Beastmode42

2 ай бұрын

He ran up to a group of kids, hit a little girl, and after getting smacked like he obviously needed to be, proceeds to stab everyone within reach as he is still charging forward. Then ditches his murder weapon.

@l-train7876

2 ай бұрын

@@Beastmode42he never smacked Maddie, there’s no evidence, no witness testimony, Maddie requested her testimony was made private, she told the court that she “accidentally deleted” the pics of her injury, …. She was clearly never hit. And that’s a big problem for the prosecution, because Mui was on video walking away from the group initially - and then the girls run up and get “in his face” according to witness testimony. And then one of the guys starts shouting about hitting a woman, probably the same guy who was shouting “raper/p3do”. These kids are fucking liars.

I questioned whether she was punched in the face throughout the trial and now I really don’t believe she was, if a 5’2 skinny girl gets punched by a man there will be marks; maybe the police have photos

@unclebennyscreepycampfires6828

2 ай бұрын

I've watched the defense opening argument again after watching a lot of testimony of the young men & others. It's really grievous to see the comments people are making. I can see the defendant's perspective, & believe at this moment that he possibly should not have even been charged & most likely ought to be acquitted. At WORST, involuntary manslaughter. I believe the young people ought to be charged as well. The young man who died actually put his hand around Mr. Miu's throat! They all said they had 2-3 beers, yet the BAC of the decedent was .22% or something, which means he was drunk. Moreover, in statements, apparently the others said he was the least intoxicated of them all. Hey, at first blush, I thought this was unnecessary injuries & death as well, but as I've considered the evidence & the context of everything... there's no way I would vote to send this man away for murder of any degree. These boys have lied, & I don't believe he said he was "looking for little girls" at all, nor do I believe he actually punched this woman either. He possibly slapped her, but given the information, she was extremely aggressive & things had escalated greatly. It's unfortunate he threw the knife... he was traumatized by the entire incident at the time. It was one thing he could do to help manage his emotions & cope w/ what had happened.

@newcastlell

2 ай бұрын

where you born yesterday?

@unclebennyscreepycampfires6828

2 ай бұрын

@@newcastlell You apparently can't think critically, compare testimonies, or are possibly just emotionally charged & biased at the suggestion a grown man "punched" a woman. The testimonies contradict that, the evidence doesn't support it, & therefore it has not been established as factual.

@DarkStar-wu9nq

2 ай бұрын

She PUNCHED him . The thugs attacked him on camera for snap chat and attempted to drown him They sent the girl and he slapped her back after she punched him in the temple FIRST NO PROVOCATION AT ALL NOW COPS DESTROYING FOOTAGE AND PHOTOS MANY WITTNESS SAID SHE STARTED AND THUGS ABUSED HIM COPS WONT TAKE STATEMENTS WHO IS THIS GIRLS FATHER ??? OH FRIENDS OF SHERRIF

@melissaloomis9961

2 ай бұрын

Well he didn’t have any marks on his face as well and he was punched twice and pushed so maybe he slapped her but he definitely hit her in the face

When will the teens be charged?

@user-yu4go3fd5h

2 ай бұрын

Why would the teens be charged? They could be charged with underage drinking, but that’s it. Underage drinking isn’t a death sentence. The defendant is going to probably go to prison. You cannot just start stabbing people under 18 because you’re upset over freedom of speech

@patrik3482

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-yu4go3fd5hLying in court.

@lepermessiah2608

2 ай бұрын

@@user-yu4go3fd5hYou can stab people in self defense which is what he did. They were beating him and tried to drown him.

@user-yu4go3fd5h

2 ай бұрын

@@lepermessiah2608 after he started it champ. It’s not self defense if you start the physical part of a situation haha

@tk00903

2 ай бұрын

Remind me please, who grabbed whom 1st?

How hard is it to open a box?

@SlickArmor

2 ай бұрын

He's a beta.

This prosecutor is so terrible. My guess is he got a law degree from a local community College in some rural area. This also must be his first trial case. Painful to watch. If this doesn't end in a conviction, it'll be the prosecutor who's to be blamed. Seems to me like an open and shut case.

Moi wasn't scared he was angry. I can see why he was angry, but scared might have backed off. Angry isn't self defense.

@Lord_Humungus

2 ай бұрын

Either way, its still techincaly self defence, FAFO NOT GUILTY

@melaniebest5623

2 ай бұрын

@@Lord_Humungusnope once he charged and ran up and tried to flip the boys over in his raft as far as I am concerned he started the physical altercation. And while the punch isn’t captured the immediate response is captured, you see people lunge forward and begin to verbalize that he hit a women.

@ROCKO633

2 ай бұрын

I'd say it was a little bit of both, He yelled for help to his friends . You don't do that when you're not scared. I don't personally know him and you don't either you wasn't there so you can't say if he was scared or not for certain. In my opinion he will be found not guilty. He may catch a time served charge for cutting the two that tried to help. But he didn't know they were there to help.

@REPR100

2 ай бұрын

Scared people fight or flight, he chose to fight once he was knocked to the ground and flight was no longer an option

@Sam4got

2 ай бұрын

If Mui was so angry or frightening looking one would think the rabid group of jackals would have left him alone to begin with. FAFO

Cop didn’t ask her “why” she’d deleted the picture? Wow. That’s ridiculous. He didn’t ask her because he was looking at her as a victim right from the start and he got tunnel Vision. Victim or suspect, you should always want the full story - always.

@thebeasters

2 ай бұрын

It can be recovered by technicians. Assuming the pigs did their job. Seeing as this went to prosecution because they are rich kids, I'm kind of doubting it

I’m surprised he didn’t have witness pick up knife and display it to jury for a better angle. Jury is sitting, knife in table feet from them. It only makes sense. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Maddie, does destruction of evidence mean anything to you?

@lizzeltired2155

2 ай бұрын

There was not picture clearly

@almeyer3773

2 ай бұрын

destruction of evidence? you mean like throwing the murder weapon in the river? and then lying about everything from the beginning?

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

@@lizzeltired2155why did she lie then and say there was? Unbelievable that she’s above the law along with her friends.

I’ve noticed that the people who think Miu is guilty of murder can’t spell or construct sentences that make sense. 😮

@JG0en187

2 ай бұрын

I see it happening from both sides of opinions.

@cortneyrens

2 ай бұрын

I’ve noticed that too. Also ppl saying “but he’s a creepy pedo…he was looking for little girls, right??” (When it’s been well established he has a clean record and isn’t an pedo) and haven’t watched the video are the ones who are so strongly opinionated on him being guilty. Self defense 💯

@ralphbenedict3677

2 ай бұрын

@@cortneyrenswell, Thankyou Sherlock Holmes……

@kaylavarela7215

2 ай бұрын

What truly bothers me is the amount of teens, now adults who don’t know the term “shallow water” and ask for simplification of questions that have middle school grammar.

@Becki545

2 ай бұрын

Just to play the devil's advocate, I do think Miu should have been mature enough to know that Apple River is a "gross" (quote from another commenter who's been there) place to hang out.

Why harrass the guy looking for a lost phone!

@honesttruth8064

2 ай бұрын

If u r speaking about the knife 🔪🔪 perp. He had been GRABBING other tubers from UNDER the water!!!!!! Before the murder and attempted murder of three he came BACK and CREATED A LOT of BRAVADO BS BY HITTING ONE FEMALE first!!!! Helpful to have the WHOLE story AND sequence of who put hands or weapons on who FIRST. ONE PERSON USED A KNIFE 🗡️🔪. Same person being asked to keep his hands to himself and leave the group he ultimately ATTACKED WITH HIS FIST AND HIS KNIFE.

@gehudon

2 ай бұрын

That’s NOT WHAT HE SAID!!

@Ladybug1222

2 ай бұрын

@@honesttruth8064you haven’t comprehended the videos!!

@Jbrowni3

2 ай бұрын

@@gehudonwhat did he say

@Jaydee71172

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@honesttruth8064Everything you have said (besides the stabbing part) is just not true. Have you even watched this court case or the video?

The other engineers don't have a $5 pocket knife so they call Miu and ask him to bring his? 6 engineers can't figure out how to attach and detach 8 tubes without a knife. SLIPKNOT

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I've been river tubing plenty of times and saw others around me and nobody ever needed to carry a knife. Miu had the knife on him the whole time. It's obvious why he carried the knife. Then, when he first pulled it out while talking to the 3 females, he had thos look on his face like he was pumping himself up to get ready to start attacking. He's allegedly from Romania and fled during the cold War so I'm assuming he might've been involved in violent situations back in red Europe back in the 70s

@devintaylor7049

2 ай бұрын

​@jamesbroomfield7799 I also go tubing alot and everyone I'm with and everyone around me always had a knife

@MyName-yl2nc

2 ай бұрын

Let's not forget the ropes are all pre cut also

@belindavandyk6128

2 ай бұрын

?? He was PHONED to bring a knife?? Could the other guy not uhm JUST TAKE HIS OWN??

@charlescarter3595

2 ай бұрын

@@devintaylor7049 Yeah but did anybody "call" you to tell you to make sure you bring it? Totally made up to explain why he has knife. Also, have you used your knife on people?

INTENT

Not guilty.

@Beastmode42

2 ай бұрын

He ran up to a group of kids, hit a little girl, and after getting smacked like he obviously needed to be, proceeds to stab everyone within reach as he is still charging forward. Then ditches his murder weapon.

@jamesd7495

2 ай бұрын

@@Beastmode42 he hit a little girl?? Proof?

@jamesd7495

2 ай бұрын

@@Beastmode42 more like hit a grown ass woman after she got in his face and put her hands on him. Then stabbed someone after being jumped by a group of drunk teens trying to make a tik tok. Maybe learn that the real world isn’t the internet or your safe space.

@martinfazekas2299

2 ай бұрын

Nope. There are very important little details that most people are missing. Look at the first few seconds of the video that’s on Fox9, recorded by the black kid. Niu runs at the black kid and the girl next to him, who are sitting in their tubes, and grabs them. That right there is assault under the law. After that, when the kids start their little humiliation ritual, instead of getting out of there, he stops, faces them, and pulls a knife on them. Only AFTER that, he gets pushed, and then slapped. You can’t claim you killed someone and injured another 3 in self-defense when you assaulted them before they started fighting back. Really Niu’s only hope is that the prosecutor really is as lackluster as he seems. The other possibility is that he feels pretty confident and wants to let the evidence speak for itself.

@missmochiicecream

2 ай бұрын

@@martinfazekas2299 There weren't any women with the teens. The two women showed up after they heard commotion from the teens. He doesn't grab them, either, but he does reach for their tubes and touches them as a result. I'm not excusing what he did because I absolutely think they should find this man guilty, but when you're pointing out that details are missing and you're also missing details, I had to speak up.

I think it’s 100% the guy’s fault who was taking the video. If he wasn’t there that day instigating it all, it would never have happened

@poboxchristmas380

2 ай бұрын

makes me wonder if any of the people involved feel guilt for that kid's death.

@missmochiicecream

2 ай бұрын

@@poboxchristmas380I can guarantee you they do.

@user-py6jj4qd8o

2 ай бұрын

True character will show eventually, whether instigated or not. And if morals drop because of the influence of another, then a better backbone needs to be made

@l-train7876

2 ай бұрын

Imagine your Isaac’s mom (the kid who died) and you’re already dealing with the earth shattering pain of losing your child, only to later see the video and see how his “friends” contributed to the events leading up to Isaac’s death. Isaac’s friends (the Asian kid and the black guy/cameraman) *completely* escalated the situation.

@Pureblood712

2 ай бұрын

Oh, so your defending beating women?

Why did he grap, stop, stand in front of their tubes? Makes no sense. Their tubers! Who stands in front of tubes? Why did he refuse to move? What was his point. Just because he could? I wouldnt have stood in front of river tubes thats just rude or stopped them, but then I'm not insane. Was he just looking for trouble? Why? Its all such a waste of life. He should have just let them tube and looked for the phone when they passed. My condolences to the family. Your son died way to young. May you find closure and may your son RIP.💜

Miu grew up in Romania under Ceausescu. Not excusing his actions, but he probably saw some dreadful things as a child.

@cb664

2 ай бұрын

And he learned how to do dreadful things with a knife. If he's that damaged, he shouldn't be running loose. He was a ticking time bomb!

@FreddyFowler-wq2mg

2 ай бұрын

Exactly they were just little boys with hardly any experience with alcohol when I was 16 I would drink a 40 of mickeys and run around naked

Lmao the prosecutors wanted to ask well what did you have for breakfast

Classic case of “fuck around and find out” Never seen worse prosecution in my life.

@Beastmode42

2 ай бұрын

He ran up to a group of kids, hit a little girl, and after getting smacked like he obviously needed to be, proceeds to stab everyone within reach as he is still charging forward. Then ditches his murder weapon.

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

The prosecution has nothing to go on but a string of drunken drugged out liars that were proven to be reenacting Lord of the Flies.

@MrTHL1

2 ай бұрын

@@Beastmode42little girl? lol you mean a drunk mid 20 girl

@darkwingduck3477

2 ай бұрын

@@Beastmode42 He didn't even hit her. The girl they were talking about in the video is Ryhley. They say it after she gets punctured with the knife not immediately realizing she got stabbed. Jawahn then says "he hit a girl?" as a question as though he hadn't seen anything despite the fact that in court he testified that he saw Miu punch the blonde.

@Sam4got

2 ай бұрын

@@Beastmode42not going to prove your point of view no matter how much you plead your case. FAFO

I want to know what was said at the end, that caused the judge to react a d ask what was said. I keep replaying it and cant tell if he said its tragic or what

It's just the opposite of what they said the knife is dried dirt on it the bank meant where it sits is damp dirt unbelievable

Any charges against the young people for assault and battery against the man much older then them ?

@melissaloomis9961

2 ай бұрын

Give me break that’s ridiculous

@kitfranzman4860

2 ай бұрын

You mean the big strong 51year old man who started the fight by punching a small woman in the face? The big strong 51 year old man who shouldn't be near kids? The big strong 51 year old man who stabbed kids and murdered a 17 year old kid for calling him a name? We don't do that in this country.

@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.

2 ай бұрын

Yrs lets charge people for defending themselves while being stabbed. 😂

@danielferreira3573

2 ай бұрын

Are you mentally ill? This guy inserted himself into a needless situation, and was the first to be aggressive/strike someone. Hitting a woman in front of a group of young boys is a surefire way to start something like their reaction. He just came prepared with a knife to take a life, unlike anyone else that day, and then ditched the knife like a murderer and lied. Why are so many defending this man's decisions? All did wrong that day, but his actions directly led to all this

@PlatinumArtiststv

2 ай бұрын

They clearly started messing with him are u blind?

You know when you hear your own voice and cadence in a recording and you ask, "Is that what I sound like"? The attorney questioning the investigator sounds exactly like me. The guy's my auditory doppelganger.

It’s obvious that some of these kids were drunk and don’t remember what happened. Give me a break. Move on

If this man wanted to start threatening these teens, he would've taken the knife out sooner to try to scare them. Mr. didn't take it out until he felt threatened. I bet those teens wouldn't like if their parents got provoked the way they acted towards this man.

@Cookie4XO

2 ай бұрын

And on the reverse, if Mr Mui and his wife had a teen, they wouldn't like it if a 50 yr old man stabbed him to death.

@RS-cw3oy

2 ай бұрын

They probably would have raised better kids

@user-uu1hv8nv6i

2 ай бұрын

I agree with you here my friend

@Jaypocalypse

2 ай бұрын

​@@Cookie4XO so that gives people free range to assault? I'd hate if my kid broke into a house and was killed for it that doesn't mean I think it's unreasonable to happen.

@Taykorjg

2 ай бұрын

If he punched first then self defense can't be applied. But yes, both of these parties had a whole river to walk away from the other party

Why was he carrying a knife in his swimsuit? Who does that? The teens did not deserve to be gutted. They had no weapons. They all were drinking even the man that stabbed them , from what I’ve gathered. There must have been a lot of deep anger for him to stab so many and so deep.

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

This has been explained a million times.

@faithmatthews5767

2 ай бұрын

If you listened properly he had a knife to cut the ropes, quite a common utensil in tubing.

@Oceanside2023

2 ай бұрын

@@faithmatthews5767 Exactly! It’s the same type of knife my son was encouraged in boy scouts to carry at all times for miscellaneous uses!

@fmm3487

2 ай бұрын

maybe a gang is a weapon

@jimmywilliams9824

2 ай бұрын

The old man not "drunk" officers stated that .

This should never have happened , disrespect for sure could have avoided the whole thing !!!!

The attorney never asked for this investigator’s CV ! He never asked this investigator about his educational background, nor his specific knowledge or experience in his field. Why? The nurses and doctors have to go through their CVs and explain their credentials to be considered credible. Why not this guy ? Asking for a friend.

What I find suspicious is...the father, the one who owns the bar, stated that Maddies Mother sent him a pic of Maddies injury, at a later time! Why hasn't that picture surfaced as evidence? Maybe it will, maybe that's one that got deleted. I think all of their phones need to be investigated. The first officer she approached stated he saw no visible injuries, nor did she stop walking to allow him to take pictures for evidence. I'm now leaning towards Making false statement involving a criminal act. Self infliction, or co-conspirator to stage a criminal act to cover up the truth. If so, she should be charged with numerous crimes and face jail time. As well as the others involved. The man needs to be set free.

@chicago1779

2 ай бұрын

The stills show her reacting to being hit on her face. I defo think he did slap at the very least

@mgxzazfbyjuchrisclarkvpz236

2 ай бұрын

That's what I think. There's definitely some lying going on tho with a few of the witnesses, embellishing certain things. For one, the black dude I think is lying about hearing the accused making a comment "looking for girls". I think these drunken idiots were too busy harassing him than to even hear the guy say "looking for phone/snorkel". This is a f'ed up case for sure.

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

@@chicago1779he may have pushed her off of him since she was all over him along with the other cigarette girl.

@chicago1779

2 ай бұрын

@@rockstarofredondo maybe

Supena this Harrison’s phones and all her friends They are being protected They started the whole thing This man bleached her phone for her

This is a really unfortunate situation that happened. I hope and pray parents use this as a teaching moment for their own children. You never know how crazy somebody might be. There are people out there that are just itching for a reason to snap on somebody and when the opportunity finds them…. This is the result. 😕 People need to realize that you can’t just go around slinging accusations, getting argumentative and threatening to physically harm someone. I can see all sides of this case but at the end of the day, I think he was well within his right to defend himself. From what I could tell in the video, the only people that were injured were the people that put hands on him. With all that said, I do think his actions after the fact were sketchy. I think he should serve time for not contacting emergency services for the kids he hurt, not trying to render aid, etc.

No one has mentioned if the phone was found? What normal person would snorkel looking for a mobile in the river?

@craiglockwood981

2 ай бұрын

If you look in the picture of the group, most of them had their cell phones in waterproof cases around their necks. So, it's possible the wife dropped her phone in the water as she testified in court. Miu decided to snorkel for the missing phone. The apple river has quite a bit of current. The reason why so many people like to tube the river. The phone being in a waterproof case could have tumbled quite a way downstream. Thus, the reason Miu was so far from his group. Miu could also have thought the teens had the cell phone. Alcohol makes you do so stupid things.

@marciaquarle8870

2 ай бұрын

No phone was founds by police and given back to Nic’s Hispanic amigo

How old is the prosecutor?

@mothmanifest

2 ай бұрын

He sounds like a toddler.

This is a guy who had heart surgery- my dad had surgery-he tried to be the same but he never was-this guy could have had an attack just from the stress of being surrounded-I know I would have been scared

@arneh.180

2 ай бұрын

oh makes sense to stab 5 people then if you had heart surgery and in fear the stress might kill you

I am pretty sure many of you have heard the white noise between video sound segments. It is about privacy.

@jimmywilliams9824

2 ай бұрын

Well put rain noise on

Longest box opening video ever.

Under age drinking, public intoxication, harassment, using physical assault… wow I’m clearly confused how the charges went SO wrong!!!! And yet we wonder why our teen and young adult population is so incredibly out of control! This case does one thing perfectly…it shows the sense of ENTITLEMENT this population holds to be true! Let’s hope there was A-LOT of lessons learned that day!

@missmochiicecream

2 ай бұрын

I'm from the area; this is very definitely not shocking coming from a bunch of young white male teens. Do I think they could have behaved better? Yes, do I understand why they behaved the way they did? Also yes. Do I think they deserved to die? Absolutely not. Come on.

@ShaneDanger42069

2 ай бұрын

@@missmochiicecreamIt’s something you’d see more with young black males for sure

@donnaadom8483

2 ай бұрын

And flying purple people eaters. Every dang one of them.

@wisconsinite202

2 ай бұрын

I do not understand why they behaved the way they did. It was vile and indefensible. They are drunk and obviously entitled

@craiglockwood981

2 ай бұрын

Wow are you really that thick?

Those young adults were nothing but a bunch of punks!

@BlackShale

2 ай бұрын

Jeering and taunting a guy calling him rapist and pedophile....

@Joe-ym6bw

2 ай бұрын

Exactly that's what I said not to mention they were high on weed and alcohol bad combination for punks looking for trouble

@johnphilpot5205

2 ай бұрын

People from Stillwater always think people will take their crap.

@clutchboi4038

2 ай бұрын

​​@@Joe-ym6bwso being obnoxious is now a death sentence? He should be free to go because of y'alls personal hate for young obnoxious people? Wtf is wrong with you people? You wonder why you get no respect well here's your answer.

@Seagull1950

2 ай бұрын

They were loud, rude and obnoxious but how does that remotely excuse his murderous behaviour.

I wonder what obligations the lawyer has to not mislead. The defense attorney has seen the 2nd video showing Madison being struck. Was he trying to make the argument it’s okay to hit someone as long as you don’t leave a mark?

Dammit these DAs seem rookie to me.

In the video as Mr Miu approaches the raft someone called him a "cracker" which is a racial slur against a white person. I can't imagine who might've said that. So someone introduced a racial component to this incident. Also, as the person filming the video knows, the more crazy you can get someone to act the more views you will get so he had an incentive to keep egging on his friends and harassing Mr. Miu. Also, the videographer never stopped recording to help his friend who was bleeding and dying in the water, it was more important to get a good video and record his dramatic reaction then actually help his friends.

@missmochiicecream

2 ай бұрын

He said he started recording because of the interactions leading up to the event (that weren't on video). They were teenage boys, drunk and high, so it doesn't shock me that they acted like this and kept hyping each other up and saying dumb stuff. That's intoxicated teens for you. Is this a harsh lesson to learn? Yeah, sure, but no one deserves to die over it. I'd hold a 52 year old man to higher standards for de-escalating a situation that he literally walked himself into.

@mi81tkne47

2 ай бұрын

@@missmochiicecream If he was in fear for his life then he is legally allowed to defend himself. He's a guy in his mid 50s, poor health, had quadruple bypass surgery, had been punched and knocked down into the water where he could've drowned or had another heart attack. He was surrounded by around 8 physically fit people and was in fear for his life, that's why he defended himself. A tragedy but they started it and wouldn't let up on him.

@jamesrandolph6021

2 ай бұрын

​@@missmochiicecreamnope

@hautehussey

2 ай бұрын

They called him a lot more than that. They were basically shouting to the world that he was a pedophile because of his snorkel/scuba mask. Then surrounding him and telling him to get out of there because he was an old pervert. Then physically pushed him down and slapped and punched him.

@craiglockwood981

2 ай бұрын

@@mi81tkne47 Well you got this all wrong. Why challenge all these people? Why not just walk away, come back later and snorkel for the lost phone. In the video as I've said before it shows Miu opening a folding knife at his waistline. This is before he strikes the girl. He's not calling out to his group for help. He not trying to walk away, back up out of their reach. He isn't even trying to tell them to back away. Nope he just opens the knife blade. Why? Is this what a rational person would do. He doesn't even hold the knife up and yell for the people to back away. No, instead he punches the girl in the face. This is not self-defense. Any rational person would know this would cause a negative reaction from the group. You just don't hit a woman. The teens and the group from across the river react to defend the girl. As for drowning, they're in like 12 inches or less of water. As for his heart condition. If he has one. Why confront the teens at all. He had to know there were 6 of them. Miu tried to snorkel under their tubes. Bad idea. This led to the teens calling him a pedophile.

😔. It's not self-defense when you can freely walk away unscathed from verbal taunting. However, taunting a stranger & videoing it for upload - are "likes" & "subscribes" worth the risk one may be taunting an armed killer? Be kind just bc you can.

These defense attorneys does the slowest boring nightmares I’ve ever seen

only question the defence needed to ask in regards to that phone was," so, how many deleted photos of her 'injuries' were recovered?"

@williammccracken5654

2 ай бұрын

That photo never existed.

@t.j.5044

2 ай бұрын

@@williammccracken5654 yes I know. That is why it's the only question h need to ask about it.

I really wonder how this case is going to go, i feel like it could go either way. Complicated case which is going to apply to different people differently because of peoples different moral scales.

@gregoryjones7712

2 ай бұрын

yeah but knife is always gonna be a tougher sell plus at any moment he would of fled if he felt in fear of his life, 2 different groups attacked by the same guy cutting the women and punching the other is where he completely failed dude is Fkk3d lol

@simaturna9765

2 ай бұрын

İm deeply sorry for the guy who lost his life but they did not let him go

@jaimhaas5170

2 ай бұрын

More about common sense. Those that have it know Miu is INNOCENT

@jaimhaas5170

2 ай бұрын

@@simaturna9765 Agreed. SELF D all DAY

@vickijo2343

2 ай бұрын

​​@@simaturna9765All he had to do was put his hands up and say ok, I'll go... none of this would of happened.

Just the most primitive thought, so primitive that i don't even know why i have to write it, predating even human race itself... Why the hell would an individual willingly attack group of 10+ people? Even the dumbest person alive would have to know he will lose and should rather avoid the fight. And you are trying to tell me he, a 50y old man, past the prime, would willingly go fight 10 20y old people? Go ahead, people that defend those punks, tell me.

@martinfazekas2299

2 ай бұрын

Did you see the whole video on Fox9 which starts with Niu running at the 2 kids sitting in their tubes and grabbing them? Who attacked who here?

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

Such a good point. The video proves self-defense anyway. This is a malicious prosecution.

@missmochiicecream

2 ай бұрын

Because his ego was bruised over being heckled by a bunch of teenagers? I don't know, a lot of men have very fragile egos and masculinity so it doesn't shock me that this guy reacted in the moment and escalated the situation further. He's an adult, so he should know better. The teens were 1) 17 years old, therefore minors, 2) drunk and high, 3) under the assumption that he was being a weird creep. It doesn't seem like Miu made any effort to clear that up. Maybe other people don't think about this, but I feel like it's common sense to explain why you're snorkeling in 3 feet of water near a group of teenagers. I don't know why you're so bent on defending a 52 year old man who should have known better and should be held to higher standards regarding de-escalation and behavior.

@ShaneDanger42069

2 ай бұрын

Definitely. Self defense

@cristineconnell7803

2 ай бұрын

​@@ShaneDanger42069How? He charged them, struck first & after slowly saunters away, changed his appearance, ditched the knife & lied when police caught him! If it was innocent self defense, you go to the police for protection & to tell the truth! Not lie & hide! He is guilty of murder!

You don’t throw away a knife and lie about knowing you were involved leaving the scene if one is innocent, he stabbed 4 or 5 people and killed one of them, guilty but only 2nd at most, the boys were live feedings and trying to harass and tease the defendant, I’m sure they all learned a painful and tragic lesson.

@poboxchristmas380

2 ай бұрын

he did have a mob after him. A guy was after him with a baseball bat. Just saying.

@mistyl1987

2 ай бұрын

Aggravated manslaughter

@arneh.180

2 ай бұрын

@@poboxchristmas380 "a mob" , his life was never in danger. In the video you can also hear that it's him who struck the girl first before he got pushed

That defense attorney always ends with a “right?”

I’m so done with this trial. Can we just get to the verdict, please. Self defense.