I lost it when Braeden said he can’t be a foster parent because he’s not financially stable whilst being on the anti-abortion side 😂

@AbbeyAnn

Жыл бұрын

“Well I have the choice if I want to become a foster parent!” Yeah and I want the choice too. What’s not clicking?

@Radjhitoocool

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he’ll grow out of it like how he outgrows his pants

@jahleel0077

Жыл бұрын

​@@AbbeyAnnThey want your choice to be "should I have sex?" These weirdos treat sex way too seriously

@hiphopotamus69

Жыл бұрын

@@jahleel0077 that’s really it. It’s people wanting to police other people’s sexuality. They like pretend it’s about preserving life but when you actually break down their arguments you can clearly see that their beliefs are rooted in sex for any purpose other than procreation being wrong and should legislated out of society.

@ticklord

Жыл бұрын

@@jahleel0077 It's like these freaks cannot conceptualize fun as an adult and so everything you do as an adult should be anything BUT enjoyable. It would explain why they're all so fucking miserable.

“My experience with foster care was incredibly traumatic and awful and scarring. Which is why I think you shouldn’t abort and choose foster care.” Like????? 😭😭😭 What point is he even trying to make???

@kcar8974

Жыл бұрын

He suffered, so he wants others to as well 🤷‍♀️ spoken like a true republican

@sarahalbright7864

Жыл бұрын

And this is why republicans 100% suck and if you care about your loved ones, you would never vote for a republican in office again.

@mermaidcatching

Жыл бұрын

It’s also crazy considering he was only in foster care for a new months to a year as an infant. Dude imagine how traumatic and awful spending your entire childhood in foster care would be and try again

@JaseekaRawr

Жыл бұрын

@@mermaidcatching dude I was in foster care for only a couple months & I still don't like to claim it, like I'm doing stolen valor or something 😆 it was hella traumatic tho, even just a couple months. I'm absolutely pro abortion! Not for that reason even, just for bodily autonomy & healthcare reasons. The rest is secondary to that.

@Wraiven22

Жыл бұрын

@@mermaidcatching right?! Dude said he was only in foster care until 19 months and yet it’s left him with trauma he still carries to this day. How does he think that kids who spend most or all of their childhood in foster care fare? What a moron.

That one girl talking about bodily autonomy and how nobody should have their body used as a resource against their will was straight up spitting. She absolutely went off and I wish she had a better opportunity to really hammer in on the anti abortion kids about how their beliefs lead to dead people.

@noobmasters6913

Жыл бұрын

strangly enough abortion also leads to loss of life

@pickcollins9910

Жыл бұрын

@@noobmasters6913 fertilized gummy bears aren’t the same as living breathing women.

@nfzeta128

Жыл бұрын

@@noobmasters6913 under that type of thinking you commit mass killings everyday you step on lawns, everytime you eat anything that would be a product of loss of life. Basically at that point you've given 'life' such a broad statement that if that's the basis of policy you've only succeeded in trivialising what life is. The only time people refer to such concepts as 'life' is in an artistic manner.

@noobmasters6913

Жыл бұрын

@@nfzeta128 i agree.. im pro choice.. but not because it think its moral, i know its not moral, but humans arnt moral so why draw the line here

@Will0wAWisp

Жыл бұрын

@@noobmasters6913 it kinda is 💀 how is it not moral?

when braedon made the argument that he is not financially or mentally ready to adopt but didn’t see the irony and pure hypocrisy i lost it

@nicolettemw

Жыл бұрын

He's such a hypocrite.

@Moiny1

Жыл бұрын

As harsh as it sounds, his whole foster care story sounds like a pro choice argument.

@funty420

Жыл бұрын

He made it up to cover up the fact he was with Candace picking up stolen fetuses to make sure their hearts are beating

@frxsita_3

Жыл бұрын

@@Moiny1 it really does.. and idc how this is gonna sound either but the constance chick really just seems like she got pregnant as a statement and is using her pregnancy as anti abortion propaganda.. it’s weird.

@mischr13

Жыл бұрын

"it's a long, tedious process to adopt, and it's expensive" pregnancy/birth/child-rearing, famously cheap and definitely not long or tedious lmao

This is why sex education is important to teach kids at school. So many things said in that video are based off ignorance and a complete misunderstanding of what abortion actually is and how it works.

@TEETHHHHH

Жыл бұрын

and these pipelines those people are in teach them not to have that desire to become less ignorant sadly

@CreatorHouseVlogs

Жыл бұрын

Some women are assaulted

@loveisblue5297

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, but we have nimrods that say we should leave it up to the parents where often parents won’t even bring it up

@DalilaFreyja

Жыл бұрын

And what a 'coincidence' that conservatives are not only against abortions, but also against sex ed.

@actualgoblin

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@loveisblue5297 Right?? If you want to be involved with your child's education, that's great, but a lot of parents won't-- whether they're too busy, uneducated, or just lazy. IMO it's kind of cruel to willingly leave disadvantaged kids in the dust like that just because of _your_ kids don't need it 💀

They just got a room full of ppl with sexual trauma and ppl with genuine assholes who've stolen discarded fetuses. This is kinda disgusting tbh

@infern0127

Жыл бұрын

agreed it was so insane for Constance to say to a rape victim that "oh you know you could have had that child"

@christophergreen6595

Жыл бұрын

Did they let thr right stuff their side with media professionals again?

@iandragooo

Жыл бұрын

That's the Jubilee way baby

@samiamrg7

Жыл бұрын

Why does Jubilee keep doing that? They consistently have on conservative activists vs regular people. Is it on purpose? It’s not like they couldn’t find some actual pro-choice activists. There are plenty of them out there.

@emmaobrien1376

Жыл бұрын

​@I N F E R N 0 I'm sure some things were cut from the discussion, but I can't believe how calm the pro-choice crew was. If I was pregnant from rape and couldn't abort, I'd kill myself and "baby," and I'd have no trouble telling the anti-abortionists that. Fortunately there are a thousand ways to abort, even if it's not legal.

Any politician who votes against abortion should never be allowed to vote in favor of war or any type of military action ever.

@PhoenixFireZero

Жыл бұрын

Can't say you're pro-life if you're pro-war.

@killedya3450

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@Grubbly10 bro has over 300 comments on an account made only 1 month ago, the only one coping here is you dude

@lukecrossley

Жыл бұрын

i think this a lil bit of a diminishing comparison, bc both wars and abortion access generally have more motives than just the value of a fetus's 'life', eg. diplomatic reasons or international relations or financial reasons (or the very, very rare cases where a war is revolutionary or aiming to 'take some lives to protect several more'/ end justifies the means type situation) if they say anything along the lines of "abortion is bad bc of the baby losing a life" and then support any form of violence like a war over resources, that's obv a double standard tho i just mean that i can see a situation where someone is pro-war and anti-abortion but not for correlating reasons and i think ur comparison a tiny bit diminutive/focusing on only one of the motives for these positions (but still respect it, all good & just gives a bit more to think about)

@ItsJustDoctor

Жыл бұрын

@@killedya3450 it’s one of the bots, along with “Austin Britain” and “Superkiao”

@uncomfortabletruth3831

Жыл бұрын

Not even a war for defensive purposes? That’s just as whacked as the anti abortion stance.

Bruh, that one girl who had her rapist’s baby is insane. I don’t understand how someone can be so nonchalant over something so traumatic, and basically say, “I went through this horrible experience and it was worth it, and other people should too.”

@hollandscottthomas

Жыл бұрын

That's gonna fuck that kid up when they learn about it too.

@AudioAlure

Жыл бұрын

Lack of empathy isn't all that rare, unfortunately.

@emmalisarudnicki

Жыл бұрын

​@@AudioAlure yeah but catering empathy being jubilees whole motto and pulling this shit all the time is wild

@miegravgaardxoxo

Жыл бұрын

She has 2 daughters, I wonder what they think about her perspective. Though I’m assuming they are still young kids, imagine if one of them grew up and got raped, and momma tells u u have to have this kid 🫣

@emilie7595

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was hard to watch. I think her nonchalance was a form of trauma-response though.

Braedon really be like: I suffered and saw a lot of sexual violence in foster care that I still have trauma about but you should def risk your life giving birth to send some babies there.

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

Like a reverse Dick Cheney.

@Demonmack0

Жыл бұрын

Bro was barely even in there for a year!

Alexandra is the best jubilee participant I’ve seen. She held her ground, was respectful, and didn’t get distracted by their BS talking points.

How many anti-abortion people ever adopt? I would genuinely like to know.

@PhoenixFireZero

Жыл бұрын

Babies are something they think only other people should have to put up with

@TEETHHHHH

Жыл бұрын

None, that's why we don't call them pro life.

@taffy2979

Жыл бұрын

By and large, they are religious and regressive. They believe in the propagation and continuation of their own genetic legacy. They believe they can live through their children and still be alive after their own lives have ended. Their entire lives Spent avoiding, denying and trying to defy the inevitable in misguided ways.

@maskedentrepreneur22

Жыл бұрын

@@TEETHHHHH why is it there job to adopt, we just simply r not in favor of killing a baby where u ppl r🤣

@lukecrossley

Жыл бұрын

to be fair, i don't think it matters - if they're anti-abortion and a foster parent or adopt someone, they may be less hypocritical in what they tell other women to do, but they're still reducing other women's bodily autonomy and still have a bad take, even if they set less of a double standard to answer ur question (i'm not from the US but did some research bc curious too): i found there are around 125-130 mil US adults who are not in favour of abortion being legal. as of 2021 there were like 115k kids awaiting adoption or foster care in the US. it's hard to give exact numbers though, as like we don't really have a clear measure of how many anti-abortion people use the 'just give it up for adoption' rhetoric, nor a metric for how many of those people would be suitable/accepted by adoption services, eg. may not be financially able or may live in a different state to the child needing help, or may have just turned 18 or be elderly and not be in a position to care give etc etc etc so can't say for certain but it seems like overall there's about 1000x more anti-abortion adults in the US than children waiting for adoption, so even if 1/1000 were both willing and eligible they would actually be able to help all children currently in need of adoption and so if they argue that all the current pregnant pro-choice women should 'just give it up for adoption', we'd need like 1/100 of the ppl who are both US adults and anti-abortion to be willing and eligible adoptive parents, or for them to adopt like several kids each sorry for the long post HAHA but in summary/tl;dr: a lot more would need to be both willing and eligible to adopt kids for their argument to actually be feasible in any way, as there are already plenty of kids waiting for adoption who aren't adopted, and plenty of abortions which would increase that list rather than be adopted at the current rates

How can that guy acknowledge its irresponsible for him to have a child because of his financial situation. Yet can't understand how forcing a woman in the same position as him to have a kid is also irresponsible?

@babyfaceweeb8937

Жыл бұрын

Because they doesn't see women as people.

@jwomackandcheese73

Жыл бұрын

Because he is a piece of shit and knows it or he doesn't see the hypocrisy of it.

@ashitakedia5814

Жыл бұрын

In fact it’s even more unfair on women considering they have to go through physical turmoil throughout the pregnancy

@grosebud4721

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention, he as a foster parent wouldn't have to experience the pregnancy process (like how the one girl was talking about people disregarding the actual pregnancy part and just jumping to after the baby is born). He, depending on the age of the foster child, would not have to change diapers or teach self soothing, would not have to teacher the child how to read etc. it's such a stupid hypocritical thing to say

@mikuplayz3179

Жыл бұрын

Ths is illogical.

Why is the anti abortion teens argument always "well I had a traumatic childhood so I'm right and you're a baby slaughterer" it's like they want others to suffer just because they did

@goopguy548

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they just are there to sell sob stories as a weird way to make people feel bad for them and therefore side with them. If I had any empathy I would, inside I just see it as even more disgusting, they were raped and there rapist wanted them to abort so they want to ban abortions? It's projection, if anything they should be send to a psych ward to get that sorted out before they steal any more medical waste

@sarahalbright7864

Жыл бұрын

They are brainwashed sadly, any kid or teen that goes on a republican rant just makes me think they are being manpulated and controlled by their shitty parents. It happened to me when I was a kid. I just end up feeling bad for them, their parents are dictating their lives and not allowing them to even breathe without their parents shoving their ideas onto their kids.

@CreationsFlare

Жыл бұрын

Their empathy is shot. They are more about the child at the end than the person nourishing the entity through their own bodies.

@ribbit2515

Жыл бұрын

​@@sarahalbright7864 Spot on. I was definitely a conservative as a kid/teen, but I never actually had an understanding of what I was talking about. I was just repeating what my parents told me, because anytime I had a different opinion I was screamed at for it. It's hard to break from perspectives you've been forced to have from a young age. My hope is that when they become adults and start gaining some independence that they realize that there is more nuance to these things than just, "You're killing unborn babies because you're cruel!"

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

Trauma is their currency for optics first and view point validity third, you see this with senators daily and rarely fits the moment then too, but second place is always that rush that comes from becoming the public focal point. Saying something you know is frequently fallible becomes easy when you know certain people on the other side of the camera lens will see your act in a positive way as well.

do these anti-abortion people think being pregnant is free?? not financially stable enough to be a foster parent LMFAO

@bkelly625

Жыл бұрын

You can choose not to be a Foster parent just like a woman can choose if penis’s enter their vagina unprotected or not that simple lol

The only two (what I assume to be) boys in the group being virgins and being in the “anti-abortion” side says A LOT.

@taffy2979

Жыл бұрын

It could suggest that they don't have any personal gains that could be made with their abdication of personal responsibility through abortions. Plenty of married guys and women are also anti abortion. So, no, it doesn't say anything

@rasengdori13

Жыл бұрын

@@taffy2979 They’re kids though, not married adults. It shows a severe lack of understanding due to them receiving, what I’m assuming to be, a poor sex education system as well as their inexperience as virgins. That doesn’t make it their fault, but it does make them ignorant.

@manderly33

Жыл бұрын

@@taffy2979 Or it could suggest that, like a lot of conservatives, they have absolutely no experience or understanding of the thing they want to ban, and they haven’t even tried to learn. Plenty of married men (and women) are still complete ignoramuses when it comes to sex and reproduction. See also, the Christian “sex experts,” the wife of which did not think she had a clitoris, and her husband didn’t know enough to correct her, so a friend ended up showing her where the clitoris is *on their baby* while they were changing her diaper. Which is arguably child SA.

@Iwfb123

Жыл бұрын

@@rasengdori13pls no virgin shaming, I was raised catholic and still am but I’ve been pro choice since I was a teen

@oftheHowl

Жыл бұрын

​@@taffy2979it was definitely a poor choice to have two guys who've never had sex, in a discourse about the consequences of sex. They didn't belong there, they have no say, especially because men shouldn't have a say on what happens with a woman's body

My mother had a miscarriage in her first trimester while she was on the toilet. She said it was just a lot of thick blood and she flushed it. If that's actually considered a person, then I guess my sibling has gone through the sewage system and never received a proper funeral.

@dominicmurray7200

Жыл бұрын

Ur sibling got to live the entire plot of Flushed Away (2006)

@m.-9615

Жыл бұрын

@@dominicmurray7200 loooool

@christophergreen6595

Жыл бұрын

One state, I forget which, tried to mandate funerary services for abortion/miscarriages. Sick fuckers.

@Gorbgorbenson

Жыл бұрын

They got a mob funeral. Sleepin with the fishes

If you vote against abortion, you should automatically be signed up as a foster parent. And if you don’t meet the requirements to be one? You gotta pay child support. You wanted that baby fam, better pay up sheeeeesh

@Hondewberry

Жыл бұрын

Please make this a thing, some minds would change real quick.

@JaseekaRawr

Жыл бұрын

Pls 😭😭 immediately enact this policy!

@41052

Жыл бұрын

Anti-abortion people need to have a child tax.

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

No idea if other countries have done that but feels like one had to. As american church a century ago probably had that part of tithe I have to imagine as well.

@Trevor-kc6zv

Жыл бұрын

Ok, so if you’re against murder, do you have to be a nurse? Dang, imagine supporting the killing of babies

the fact that the anti-abortion side consistently ignores the main points of their opposition to go “so you don’t think poor people should have kids? so you don’t think kids born from rape should live? so you think foster care children are worthless?” is just so telling 💀 it’s very clear which members of the group have been guided through very specific talking points and rebuttals. stating that bringing a child to term following a rape is traumatic (which is OBJECTIVELY true) isn’t attacking your child, ayala

@chayabat-tzvi1215

Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind, three out of four antis here are PROFESSIONAL activists who are part of a fake leftist org that's mentored by Randall Terry.

@ticklord

Жыл бұрын

The answer to those three questions are "These things are not mutually exclusive"

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

Ugh coaching just dripped from ayala like Koch made it rain and she didn't care if it stains.

@DatVideoDoe

Жыл бұрын

⁠​⁠@@ticklord tbh, the answer that would’ve gotten the anti-abortion side more riled up would’ve been, “it’s for that individual to decide, as no two people will respond to the same situations the same way,” which essentially the entire pro-abortion argument. The option. The choice. That’s what we want people to have access to. No one should be forced to have an abortion in the same way no one should be forced to keep a pregnancy.

@ticklord

Жыл бұрын

@@DatVideoDoe True. I do also like to bring up that what the anti-abortion crowd is advocating for is that corpses to have more rights than women.

Getting an abortion IS taking responsibility

@kcar8974

Жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

@Agent_A_Graham

Жыл бұрын

💯

@sabrinaantonioverita3061

Жыл бұрын

killing innocent people is not responsible

@Agent_A_Graham

Жыл бұрын

@@sabrinaantonioverita3061 Then why do you want to risk the life of women over the life of non-sentient fetuses?

@nostalgicfears

Жыл бұрын

@@sabrinaantonioverita3061 slowly killing innocent people by having them forced to carry out pregnancies and creating lives for children that are filled with depravity and trauma is not responsible either. you are choosing to eliminate freedom from birthing people because you are so demoralized to equate their life to one of an unborn fetus

how is it allowed for Jubilee to put regular kids against kids that have been indoctrinated by a movement that for sure has taught them their talking points 1 by 1, and not disclose it? They seriously need to start adding disclaimers somewhere

@DresdenShuffle

Жыл бұрын

Jubilee doesn’t care, they just want views. If they disclosed the backgrounds on the anti abortion people no one watching would listen to their points seeing how extreme and insane they are.

@pas84av2

Жыл бұрын

And that one girl who had an abortion destroyed ALL of their talking points.

@calamitynatalie8590

Жыл бұрын

@@pas84av2 She was amazing!

@shelbyseitzinger927

Жыл бұрын

learn how to read people a bit better. you can tell who's indoctrinated and who's speaking from their own experience. but I agree, a disclaimer like this is helpful XD

@nnewman1129

Жыл бұрын

I've always thought Jubilee was pretty trashy, but putting a group of extremists in the video without disclosing it and presenting the abortion debate as though it's a 50/50 argument is a whole new level of irresponsible. Sure some of us can see through the logical fallacies they used, but honestly I don't think the average person can (which is part of why debates like this are still happening) and therefore there's a certain amount of people that are going to be convinced by their awful opinions.

abortion is one of those topics that i just have so much trouble wrapping my head around the arguments against it. like, i don't know how to explain to someone that you should care about people.

@goopguy548

Жыл бұрын

If you look at the anti abortionists one of them has had multiple miscarriages so I'm assuming that plays a significant part. Living through others as a massive fucking cope because her body don't work properly. People are stupid

@lukecrossley

Жыл бұрын

i think the general/commonly used anti-abortion take/rhetoric is that 'we do care about people, we care about the person that fetus could grow up to be/ we care about their potential adult life' regardless of caring about the mother/birth-giver herself it's genuinely silly to value the potential life over the current one or even to equate them though, but i can see how an anti-abortion person may feel as though they are caring or they are in the right ethically or they are pro-'life' especially if they have religious beliefs about when life begins, or scientific misunderstandings about how pregnancy works, or have seen like fake ads/videos which suggest an unborn fetus is a 'life/soul' in the same way as an adult (just to clarify i'm completely pro-choice and pro-education and pro-access to these healthcare, abortion, adoption, etc. services, just trying to explain in a way which may help wrap ur head around other ppl's ideas)

@TEETHHHHH

Жыл бұрын

Ong, like how do you manage to have these takes and ideas, you sound like you've debated about this before, so how tf have you not been educated??

@katie-8452

Жыл бұрын

@@lukecrossley which i do understand to an extent, they see the fetus as a person. but we all learn about the trolley problem right? are they genuinely willing to put this pregnant person at life-threatening risk for this fetus. i understand the role of propaganda too but personally idk it's so hard for me to understand how they become so hateful

@maskedentrepreneur22

Жыл бұрын

Do u care abt the babies being killed🤣

was genuinely so astounded when ayala was saying that children born from rape are no different from children born consensually, & daphne agreed, and then ayala said “then why are you bringing it up?” like… it’s not just about the child, it’s about the mother/pregnant person that not only has to go through the strenuous and sometimes fatal process of childbirth but also carry said child and experience all the symptoms of pregnancy for 9 months. & especially with rape victims, i can’t comprehend how you can seemingly just forget that they are effected by pregnancy/childbirth/abortion too and not just the fetus/child. (potential tw/cw for describing sa trauma) i can’t fathom thinking that victims should be forced to carry and give birth to something non-consensually put inside of them, for lack of a more eloquent way of phrasing it. victims already experience so much trauma and often this involves feeling dirty about their bodies and such, even if there’s no physical trace left of the perpetrator - i can’t imagine how much that feeling is exacerbated when that persons dna is physically a part of you for 9 months, plus all the normal symptoms of pregnancy. of course everyone experiences trauma differently, so it’s possible for it to not manifest in that way/be okay with the pregnancy, & that doesn’t make someone’s experience/trauma any less valid. however, to not understand or dismiss the fact that others do experience trauma in that way & be so unempathetic about it is just so absurd to me.

@Moiny1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this argument of 'both of my children have my DNA' is so wild, yeah one of them also has the DNA of the person that assaulted me in the worst way

@truffeltroll6668

Жыл бұрын

Ayala sounds a bit brainwashed and high on copium.

@ribbit2515

Жыл бұрын

I feel like the other woman should have just said, "No, they aren't the same." One baby was a choice and the other was forced. Personally, I think that distinction needs to be made. Especially because idiots like Ayala will not understand that it isn't about the baby in the first place. It would have shut down her remark of "why did you bring it up then," entirely. It's just so baffling to hear a victim WANT other women to go through the same as her. That shouldn't have even been an argument in the first place.

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

Was at that soulless sass I eventually assumed she went through statutory rape rather than rape-rape and she lives with this "oh so you think your rape was worse than mine" chip on her shoulder. No caveats to convince not loving the child is wrong or advocating for reasonable government policies for the victims. Just a full Candace quip meant to take another girl down a peg. Her later words left me wondering if she cares more about her own anger at him than her child or any child since birth came off like a subconscious form of vengeance with her, which teen birth has famously been punishment in church gossip for decades, but that's my tiny assumption on her odd behavior though my focus should be on her script that raised a lot of "Tom Cruise" flags.

@aqualms

Жыл бұрын

On top of the fact that when that fetus becomes human, and then turns into an adult - they have to live with the fact that they are a rape baby - an insanely heavy thing to deal with. They now have support groups for children of rape (who in the best circumstances have loving mothers), but even then, it shows just how heavy it is. That mental dilemma I wouldn't want to force on anyone, and abortion solves that dilemma from happening in the first place.

I was talking to my mom a few years ago, and she was arguing “what if I had aborted you?!” And I realized, I would not have f-ing cared, because I would not have existed AND I also love and care for my mom’s health and well-being enough to know, that her life may have been easier and healthier, had I never been born. She had a lot of mental health problems and responses to her illness, that directly impacted me in a negative way, so if she had wanted to abort me, that’s chill with me, man. I wouldn’t have ever realized, because I wasn’t capable of thought as a fetus.

@nerdrocker89

Жыл бұрын

My gma convinced my 13 old mom to not abort me, and I wish she hadn't, I absolutely would have been better off. I was abused until I was 12 and we were poor my whole life. My metabolism is fucked because I would go a week without eating, zombied out on ritalin and n64 the whole fucking time, while my mom did meth and worked as a stripper. Oh and we were homeless, the n64 I was playing was at one of her dope friends house. The hardest thing though is being raised by a mother who didn't want you and blames you for her life being fucked up.

@neutral.chaotic

Жыл бұрын

my mom said/did the same thing to me too. jokes on her that i'm passively suicidal at all times, i'm really unattatched to being alive in this physical form because I'm not afraid of what happens after death. so my response was literally just like yours and she did NOT like that

@MeggieR

Жыл бұрын

I told my mom she should have aborted me when I learnt of the risks she went through to carry me to term. I love her and it scared me to death to know that she could have died. If there is some sort of afterlife for embryos and such, I could imagine myself being chill and even thankful to her from there. And if such afterlife exists, I guess it is full of love and understanding, so all aborted embryos and fetuses are chill about it.

It's just insane to me that people care about more about something that isn't born more then they care about the woman who is carrying said fetus. One of those are already alive and have lived for at least 12-15 years (at the youngest cases). Not to mention that in the worst situations there are possibilities that the caregiver of said fetus can potentially be injured or worse and anti-abortion folks could give 0 shits is insane to me

@Olivetree80

Жыл бұрын

I used to feel this way, growing up being taught that a God designed you specifically, and were sentient from the moment of conception. Looking at it from that pov, I can understand, although it sounds insane, the idea is the woman's life isn't on the line (although it could be), so they can't see the comparison being made. I've always been someone who valued life, like not eating animals, being anti death penalty, etc., and I equated every instance where life is threatened. But, I was still against the illegalization of abortion, due to the ramifications of that, and understanding a woman's reasoning behind her choices. They could at least grant women that level of acknowledgement.

@SuperTonyony

Жыл бұрын

People who are against abortion are also against literally every single social program that could aid the baby and its mother after birth.

@lukecrossley

Жыл бұрын

especially when there's situations where the fetus is literally unviable/cannot be born safely or healthily, and will 100% harm the mother, and the anti-abortion lawmakers still don't provide exceptions for it, literally insane how little they genuinely care for the life of the caregiver

@Moooonmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!! I’m pretty sure if the girl is young enough it could kill her( I’m not 100% sure).

@slaternapier1640

Жыл бұрын

@@Olivetree80 Abortion is all or nothing, either its an option or not. Regardless of the reasons behind needing/wanting it. This is why it was a federal law, people and states can't be trusted to regulate who does and does not 'qualify' for one. People are being thrown to the wolves in the name of their 'god' to protect 'life' even if it k*lls both of them. That's insane. If you don't support abortion, don't get one.

The fact that these types of fringe, freak and mostly unpopular movements become policy is fucking insane. The future does not look good nor bright

@Pomeray8

Жыл бұрын

It's best to live without falling into the polar traps of both hope and hopelessness. All we have is now, and life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

@shelbyseitzinger927

Жыл бұрын

yeah but look at how old all these politicians are, and how lazy repub voters will become

@Autiscat

Жыл бұрын

yknow why they're hammering so hard into it, especially now? because they're *desperate* . times are changing and the right-wing is on a last hurrah to save itself. if people give up and don't fight against it then we'll just be handing them the win

my mother was raped by her uncle when she was 15 and she got pregnant and obviously the trauma was insane so she chose to get an abortion for a lot of various reasons. AND SHE'S AN ACTIVE ANTI-ABORTION PRO-LIFER. I asked her "why?" once and her answer was literally so insane that I blacked out.

@babyfaceweeb8937

Жыл бұрын

Reasons for being anti abortions usually are insane, but what exactly was her reason? You've peaked my curiosity

@brandon9172

Жыл бұрын

​@@babyfaceweeb8937 I dont think you wanna know, you might blackout too

@Scalesti

Жыл бұрын

I want to know what she said

@neutral.chaotic

Жыл бұрын

@@babyfaceweeb8937 to be honest, at the moment of the conversation I didn't feel comfortable getting into it TOO much because she was actively mad at me for being a socialist (lol) but it was something along the lines of "no one should be allowed to force me to have an abortion" (note how she told me that she MADE that decision) because I guess now she regrets it because she did want a kid (valid) but it was her UNCLE'S rape kid? Did you really want to give birth to that? Anyways I think she feels like she was forced to have an abortion (again she said that she chose to do this because she was 15 and it was her uncles) and no one should have been able to make that decision for her. Also valid, but that's the entire reasoning behind NOT outlawing abortions. NO one should be making that decision for you except for you and your doctor and politics should not be involved. Honestly she's not very intelligent so if I pointed this out to her she would just defensive and the conversation would go nowhere. (le sigh)

@zombieedrea

Жыл бұрын

I mean, Ayala in the video is a rape survivor herself and is raising her rapist's baby and she's still part of a psychotic pro-life group that steals fetuses. Sometimes trauma makes you see things a lot clearer. Other times it makes you incredibly fucking stupid with no self-preservation. I applaud Ayala for having the strength to raise both her children at such a young age. That being said, she was kind of demonic this entire video and, I'm sorry, this is just what I've observed in the real world, most young mothers her age end up divorced pretty young. So good luck with that I guess. Hopefully she won't teach her daughters how to steal aborted fetuses too.

How do religious people justify their position considering there are literally step by step instructions on how to carry out an abortion in the Bible??!

@justwannabehappy6735

Жыл бұрын

Most religious people didn't read the Bible or learn to cherry pick some of it.

@dominicmurray7200

Жыл бұрын

The passage you’re referring to actually insinuates that it isn’t really the priest that caused the miscarriage but literally god himself smiting the fetus into the shadow realm

@katilynwhitson3105

Жыл бұрын

As someone from a religious background: they don't read that part. I never heard about that Bible verse/story until I was an adult. It was never mentioned as I was growing up in the church even once.

@mischr13

Жыл бұрын

also in Ecclesiastes (best book of them all) it says "The dead are happier than the living, but better than both is the one never born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun"

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

Best abrahamic opposition has to be modern abortion as a woman's right rather than a man's right. Outside of that damn near everything becomes hypocrisy for them.

Its so fucking sad that so many kids end up being manipulated into having super dangerous sex because they're not educated about it. The story that girl shared in the beginning was heart breaking :(

I would kill to see a jubilee like this with hasan as a participant just ruining it saying shit like “bro you are doing fetus unboxings every week what’s wrong with you”

@emilycanfield2634

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see Hasan on Jubilee LMAO

Constance should get pregnant as a black woman and see how well those programs help her.

@johannaweichsel3602

Жыл бұрын

If she survives the birth, that is.

@SunnyDeLite

Жыл бұрын

@@johannaweichsel3602 yup. It’s always crazy seeing a sister think those systems work for anyone who actually needs them

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

GoKochMe would make sure her two week hospital stay was a vacation.

@ayanaalfonso5339

Жыл бұрын

she literally is at the time of the video it's crazy

@sokka_pfrt

Жыл бұрын

@@ayanaalfonso5339 and she will rely on thoses programs because her incom is "sometimes from my subscribers" (she is 99% payed/taken care of by the foetus stealing organisation)

I genuinely hate pro forced birth people. Sincerely a person who's mother should have had an abortion.

@maskedentrepreneur22

Жыл бұрын

U mean anti killing ppl🤣

@kcar8974

Жыл бұрын

Same. My mom wanted an abortion but my dad threatened to kill her if she had one. He was never in my life and she struggled trying to raise me alone. I am angry at him all the time, not for abandoning me but for putting his nose in where it doesn’t belong 🤷‍♀️

@sarahalbright7864

Жыл бұрын

You are not alone, I hate the force birth movement to, they are extremly hateful towards women and hate anyone who is already born.

@sarahalbright7864

Жыл бұрын

​@@kcar8974 that sucks and I am sorry, you have every right to be angry and you are so better of without abusers like your father.

@daddymuncher1015

Жыл бұрын

@@maskedentrepreneur22average arsenal fan

"I don't have sex because of my religious beliefs" sure bro

@euronimo34

Жыл бұрын

Dude worships at the Church of the terminally rizz-less

@goopguy548

Жыл бұрын

​@@euronimo34 worships the church of cardiovascular issues

@goopguy548

Жыл бұрын

They don't have any sex because it would be death for everyone involved. The person on the bottom would be flat, and the big dude would have a heart attack and die

@doppio_9983

Жыл бұрын

Bro needs to be Pro-Salad

@taffy2979

Жыл бұрын

Why are some leftists like this "we believe everyone, Unless they disagree with us"

"Heart cells can beat in a Petri dish". Tell them, girl!

23:39 "I'm 1000% against dehumanization of any human being whatsoever" - the anti abortionist, which stance includes giving more rights to a fertilized egg than a woman

i cant ever argue with anti abortion people because i get so angry about how much more they care about a couple cells than a conscious full grown human.

@sokka_pfrt

Жыл бұрын

and how much they invoque science when they never went to biology of reproduction 101

As a man, I don’t think I should have a say in if a woman has the OPTION of an abortion. If I’m involved in her getting pregnant, I think it’s my responsibility to be a part of the decision. But that doesn’t mean I get to make the decision. But men getting a say in if women overall can even have an abortion, is ridiculous to me.

@Jessica-gy6kr

Жыл бұрын

You are the type of man women desire.

@nathansimpson5721

Жыл бұрын

as a fellow dude, agreed completely

@ashitakedia5814

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly the point when women say that men shouldn’t be the one making laws regarding abortion. Like of course the father has a say but some random dudes shouldn’t be the ones deciding whether or not women should have the right or option to abort.

@LeilaStrickland

Жыл бұрын

not necessarily disagreeing but what are the repercussions for if she does it against your will? would you need to provide proof the baby was yours, would you want to press charges?

@V_______

Жыл бұрын

@@LeilaStrickland do we currently even have repercussions for it being done without the fathers knowledge? Outside of reasonable reasons. Like rape victims shouldn’t require anyone else. But I know some places like the would-be father to be involved in the decision. If you’re asking me to come up with some, I’ll be honest, I don’t really see anything that “fits the bill.” How would you “punish” someone who doesn’t want to bear a child? Putting a price on something like this seems, distasteful. I know we’re America and all, but even that’s crossing a line. And you can’t imprison them for it. This seems like something that would have to operate on trust and faith. Sometimes that’s the only thing we can do. Is hope the other half of the equation plays the game fairly. Besides, what am I “owed” in the scenario of my gf/wife aborting our child against my will? Someone who’s pregnant and needs a father for the child? (This is a joke by the way.)

My biggest issue with jubliee is that they give 50/50 representation for each side of arguments that are not 50/50 issues in this country. Abortion support is at like 70% right now

@chayabat-tzvi1215

Жыл бұрын

Gen Z and Millennials are overwhelmingly supportive of abortion rights. The pro-life side is dying off quickly.

@erdling3132

Жыл бұрын

That's it? Only 70%?!

@christophergreen6595

Жыл бұрын

And they often pair professionally-trained media conservatives with normal folks.

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

@@erdling3132 30% of the country still thinks Obama is muslim. That 30% shows up in too friggin' many polls.

Pro-Life: The Fetus has rights! Pro-Life: The child must conform to the parents demands and medical autonomy until they are 18! Yeah, logically tracks...

@bimjean1053

Жыл бұрын

What a shitty ass argument. Just because a child must conform to it‘s parents demands doesn‘t mean it doesn’t have rights

@union1st

Жыл бұрын

Conservatives want you to suffer

@mischr13

Жыл бұрын

Christian fundamentalists view children as possessions

@MrYago-xd7um

Жыл бұрын

Pro-Life: My right to beat the child and wed them off it's a girl.

@miegravgaardxoxo

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never thought about that before lol So true

i love when hasan gets hype and cheers for people saying good things just like a dad watching football would do

When Constance started to debate bro the rape victim as to why she wouldn't keep her rape-baby, I knew I was in for a good one.

@gagegang6421

Жыл бұрын

Braedon is also a demon. Kind of hard to believe he looked these women in the face and said they support the slaughter of children. Actual demon with a nice mask on, kill it with fire

it's ridiculous. Pro-choice is literally a middle ground - to have a choice to have a baby or not. Not like the pro-choice is arguing for the abortion of all babies

@braidena1633

Жыл бұрын

That's just it, no one is "pro" abortion. It's unpleasant for everyone. Taking away that choice from people is a whole different thing

when braeden said “you’re advocating for the slaughter of human beings” in front of someone who had to abort their rapist’s baby, i was ready to slap him

"Scientifically they existed" I was stitching them back together for fun to mail around 😂

@goopguy548

Жыл бұрын

There "scientific proof" is the 250 foetuses in there living room that they stole from the local abortion clinic

The way pro lifers are so snide about it makes me insane

A fetus heist is wild💀

Remember when Jubilee gave Hasan a shoutout? And the woman was super chill about it; kinda shocked they did that cause Hasan has been eviscerating their videos. I kind of want to see him on jubilee

@GAMEOVER-yy6zj

Жыл бұрын

They r based in LA probably hasan's neighbor. Instead of stealing wifi he's stealing(however u see it)their videos.

@dominicmurray7200

Жыл бұрын

Hasan in a jubilee would go so insanely hard just imagine the reacts to himself

@Eternal_Emerald

Жыл бұрын

If shapiro wasn't a coward, he would be on there.

my new head cannon is that pro lifers haven't had sex

@ItsJustDoctor

Жыл бұрын

Call them by their proper names “forced birthers”

@goopguy548

Жыл бұрын

"haven't had sex" bro that hyper religious landwhale isn't fucking NO-ONE. They CANT

@DresdenShuffle

Жыл бұрын

It’s not that they haven’t had sex, they’re just brainwashed by religion most of the time and haven’t gone through proper sex education which is why religion shouldn’t be in schools.

@TEETHHHHH

Жыл бұрын

​@@ItsJustDoctor thank you doctor

@Eliqueme

Жыл бұрын

​@@TEETHHHHH thank you teeth

I will never take a person with anti abortion views and no children or pregnancy scares serious.

These pro abortion teens fucking nailed it on staying on topic of the lived experience of being pregnant and how that is just as big a factor as actually giving birth and taking care of a kid. Like we had a kid at my school who got pregnant and she just disappeared full stop, I think I saw her once before graduation and it was because her sister and I went on a trip with our ap bio class to do citizen science stuff and she came to the airport with her mom and baby to see us

The kid saying it is hard to be a foster parent is making a pro argument without even realizing lol

Love how the "I am a virgin because of my beliefs" guy was out of breath while talking for walking like 5 steps.

@braidena1633

Жыл бұрын

Well he might be telling the truth. But that ain't the number one reason he's virgin (not that it matters)

@h0_vwy606

Жыл бұрын

Fr tho 💀

when bro said he's not in a financial position right now to adopt a child but can CHOOSE to do so later if he wants,,, he really dug his own grave

It IS selfish to bring children into your bad circumstances, poverty, mental incompetence, etc. The children's needs always come first, not someone's desire to be a parent.

Why don’t the anti-abortion people understand that they can keep their believe when it applies personally to them. No one is going to force them to get an abortion we just don’t agree with them pushing other people with a right over their own body not to get one.

you shouldn’t need any extraneous circumstances to have an abortion

when that anti abortion girl completely swayed the topic when she was being asked “are you forcing every r*ped woman to have a baby” made me sick to my stomach

That pregnant woman was gaslighting and sidetracking every time her dumbass points got destroyed. Also, the foster care question was completely stupid. Fetuses don't go into foster care, and, generally, babies get adopted very quickly.

@kcar8974

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, if they’re healthy. What do you think happens to the ones who are born with physical/mental challenges or born severely addicted. You think people are lining up to adopt those babies?

@slaternapier1640

Жыл бұрын

adoption is expensive in most cases, and we all know who the rich are wanting to adopt..

@goopguy548

Жыл бұрын

That's IGNORING how utter horrific foster care is for kids. Sure they aren't worth less

@manderly33

Жыл бұрын

@@kcar8974 Also babies that are not so-called white babies. See the article “Black babies cost less to adopt” from NPR, June 27, 2013.

@kevinmclarkey621

Жыл бұрын

LMAOOO spoken like a true outsider. The foster system BREAKS KIDS, and idk what drugs you're on to think that babies get adopted quickly. Millions of kids are not adopted and just AGE out of the foster system. Check your dealer for how much fentanyl they're putting in your system, it's making you dumb.

Even my country where the Catholic faith is literally coded into the constitution passed a law allowing abortion.

@truffeltroll6668

Жыл бұрын

The bible has an abortion tutorial, right?

@tomgu2285

Жыл бұрын

​@@truffeltroll6668 yes it does. If you read the Bible an Koran it literally doesn't have a problem against any of that to.

Bro this is not the first time Ayala has been in an abortion video on Jubilee and she's just straight up awful every time she gets a chance to talk, always using her traumatic experience as a weapon and trying to belittle someone for making a choice on THEIR BODY. She just gets worse and worse every time I see her.

this is why i could never be in a debate i would start yelling so quick

The fetus that has not been born yet has literally 0 value to anyone else except the parents. And if the parents of said fetus choose to not have said fetus then I'm pretty darn sure they have the right to unalive said fetus

So I was in the foster system like Brendan. He said at the beginning that he saw a lot of sexual violence in foster care along with physical violence. Yet he’d be okay with putting children in the foster care??? I’ve never heard one person say foster care kids are less than other kids. It’s so confusing to me 🤦🏽‍♀️

In Poland another woman died from septic shock recently, because doctors didn't want to perform abortion on a fetus that had no chance to survive anyway. They wanted to wait till the fetus dies naturally. I'm scared of getting pregnant myself. I'm scared to have a baby in this country.

My gaydar is doing overtime with braedon praying he escapes his religious chains.

the fact that they’re acting like both sides are equally valuable is hilarious to me. this is not a 50/50 issue, and it is certainly not morally complex 😂

i love how theres just the one white guy who never even said anything and you would never be able to tell he was there unless you literally looked for him

@Lichenroc

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed the white kid said absolutely nothing.

@eggnotegg

Жыл бұрын

@@Lichenroc in a way i kinda respect him for it but also now im interested in what he wouldve said

"The idea that I could [just be non-existant is horrifying]." Brother that's what I call a nice dream. Im perfectly fine with never having been born if it means being able to avoid foster care.

@lucasmurphy740

Жыл бұрын

Literally happens to them every single night lol

What really pisses me off and gets me heated is when others throw their own religious beliefs at others. I happen to be Christian but that's between me and GOD! Abortion laws should not be made because of someones religious beliefs. It's separation between church and state! Also, if you want me to have a child, then you pay for it and help me raise it! That's just the financial aspect of it all. What about the emotional and physical aspects of it?

The fact braedon said that he is horrified of the fact he doesn’t get to exist is so fucking stupid. Of course he is in that position, because he IS existing. A foetus does not experience life, so it cannot fear not existing as it already doesn’t.

@lellow7087

Жыл бұрын

exactly

I’m taking away his ability to be a Braden. To be a Braden you have to be Pro-Choice. (He spells his name wrong anyways)

the heavier kid on the anti abortion side has some extremely serious, christian sexual trauma from his time in the foster care system and needs help meanwhile jubilee is propping him up like the views he devoleped through his OBVIOUS closed off reaction to witnessing sexual violence EITHER BETWEEN CHILDREN, OR WITH THOSE WHOS CUSTODY THEY WERE IN OR BOTH are somehow based in reality

The fact that they brought together a group of people that have experienced pregnancy scares or abortions to have to listen to some guy named Braedon be like “I wouldn’t have liked it very much if I was aborted :(“

Pro choice allows for both decisions, the other side wants it to be illegal and you sent to jail or executed for it. Its so nice she says "Thank you for sharing such a hard story" while omitting "but i think you should be in jail or worse for your choice". You're casually and politely chatting with people who think you're a murderer...wtf?

It's not until around 17 to 20 weeks, when the four chambers of the heart have developed and can be detected on an ultrasound, that the term heartbeat is accurate, according to ACOG

@truffeltroll6668

Жыл бұрын

The 5 week sound comes from the machine not the heart

Being pregnant right now and I’m can absolutely see why woman do not want to go through this. I can’t imagine having to work a full time job/being a full time student and dealing with this. I love my baby, but truly.. this shit sucks

@2tired4_urshit61

Жыл бұрын

Sending positive vibes ❤❤

I'm 100% pro abortion in every case of a pregnancy. Unless the woman really really wants to develope the fetus and deliver a human I think as society we should do abortions as the default and culturally enforced.

@pbee2447

Жыл бұрын

yes! Even in cases where the woman wants to carry it full term, there is still a possibility for the fetus to die inside the womb in the late stages of the pregnancy. The mother's should be able to choose saving her life

@emmaobrien1376

Жыл бұрын

Enforced is a strong word. It should be no more contentious than "oh I didn't order this, send it back"

@leonardopatrizio

Жыл бұрын

@Emma O'Brien Of course. I was being way over the top on purpose with the wording. I was trying to be snarky to the pro life position dm their counter arguments. But I agree with you that it shouldn't be contentious at all when a woman excerisies her right to choose and with p bee that I support a woman's right to choose at any point during pregnancy because we don't know her circumstances. And that choice should be available at any time during pregnancy.

“Five weeks and seven days” is actually exactly six weeks 😭

"My mother had the option to abort..." BUT SHE DIDNT- which is why you went through trauma and injuries and scars. He's lucky that she didn't abort so he could go through both the happy memories he might have had and the miserable memories that he also had. But he's also wishing onto these future unborn- well now forced to be born children to also go through short or long-term trauma and abuse.

in the 80s the parents would have blamed the girl for being abused

@TEETHHHHH

Жыл бұрын

these people still do sadly

@truffeltroll6668

Жыл бұрын

They still do💀

I love how AYALA had words of encouragement for the woman that was upset over her abortion and had nothing to say to the other woman

@tybosh6961

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she completed encouraged they way one woman felt, then completed ignored the other as if it didn’t exist lol

blue flannel girl for president omg she was SPITTING

Imagine not being able to get pregnant, not able to afford adoption, not being able to take on all the damage that comes with pregnancy and using your eXisteNtiAl fEAr of posssibblllyyy being aborted(even though you're a grown adult) is pathetic. They should have ripped him to shreds.

god those demons piss me off to no end "I got pregnant at a very young age because i was groomed into being sexual" "You should have been forced to carry that child and give birth to it, actually. There are great resources for children who gave birth while they're still in school 😊"

The biggest scare in my life I dropped to my knees shaking so hard after I took a pregnancy test it waited too long I was 16 I thought my life is over... even though I live in Europe no prob but it still isn't easy to think about it is torture to take that right away disgusting

There were 2 kids that didn't say a single sentence lmao

Next thing you know people are going to say that it's wrong to remove a tumor because it's alive and it's just trying to survive.

They all say the same story , “I suffered , but I’m ok (they are in fact NOT ok) , so u should do it too , u should experience all the horrible things I experienced .”

@lucasmurphy740

Жыл бұрын

Ironically one of the most cruel and selfish attitudes out there

"They existed" lol, thats like me saying the trillions of semen I've wasted were persons that existed.

Braeden just clearly is asexual.. why is he here. How can you grow up and witness sexual violence and still be anti-abortion... someone who at this stage doesnt want sex in his life with another partner, should have absolutely no say in abortion rights

@avatardecadewho

Жыл бұрын

That religious indoctrination is a hell of a drug

crazy how braedon said he has no money to raise a foster children like yeah mayebe that’s why abortion should be legal so more children don’t end up in foster care systems

“I know exactly what a five week old fetus looks like because I was just illegally putting one in a jar”

I got real sex education in my school. The generation after me got 'abstinence-only' religious indoctrination, complete with 'promise rings' and 'tertiary virginity.' Thanks Bush!

"i am a virgin because i am a catholic" right yeah thats why buddy 🤣

“Fetus unboxing” had me screaming

More jubilee cringe

Braedon was giving me closeted gay vibes.

WHAT???? Exactly how is in NOT selfish to force a new human into a world of poverty and mental illness? What an insane take. The attitude is "But I WANT a baby!" It is ONLY selfish.

I don’t think the argument should be whether or not fetuses have the right to life or not, since that could be very subjective. Rather, I think the argument should be “do fetuses have the right to grow inside of and come out of someone else’s body.” My answer would be “no.” If we could somehow remove an embryo safely and let it finish developing inside of a tube or something, I wouldn’t object to that. But until we get to that point, I say the pregnant person’s right to bodily autonomy supersedes any of the “rights” the fetus growing inside of them may have. Edit: and even if we get to the point where the tube fetuses are a viable option, I still don’t think someone should be forced to have their unwanted pregnancy removed that way, as that would also be a violation of bodily autonomy.

I already lost it when one of the girls said she was a victim of INCEST and GROOMING and the anti abortion advocate was like, "tHeRe's aCtUaLlY rEsOuRcEs tHaT cOuLd'Ve hElPeD yOu".

21:21 “I would rather abort a CHILD than put them through the foster care system” is an intentionally misleading question, and here’s why. When someone uses the terminology “abortion” people associate that with “fetus” and pregnancy. However, a “child” could be a being of any age below the age of majority. So I feel like that was a mistake of a question at best on the part of Jubilee.

@truffeltroll6668

Жыл бұрын

The discussion is so one sided that they had to pander to the anti-choice people somehow