Another GM 5.3 Ticking Noise. It's not the lifters on this one either
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GM 5.3 Ticking noise, GM 5.3 Tapping Noise
5.3 4.8. 6.0 6.2 exhaust leak, lifters, oil pressure, rocker arm, push rod, exhaust manifold
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This guy knows engine repair. He is not a parts changer that throws your money at a problem until its accidently fixed.
@philipallen7956
Жыл бұрын
This gut just works on ls engines regularly.... literally every chevy truck from 2000 forward has at least on broken manifold bolt, if not two. In my experience its generally the driver side rear bolt that is broken pretty much always.
@thomasnew8606
Жыл бұрын
we have a 2007 Tahoe with 185000 miles and there are 2 broken bolts on the passenger side. It goes away in a min or 2. I have the AFM turned off and I really believe doing this has saved the lifters as it runs WAY better than when it was activated.
@mph5896
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasnew8606 yeah, turning off afm prevents lifter from dropping and oil burning. I have run Tahoe’s for 6+ years without issues turned off
@ozzynomicon2817
Жыл бұрын
So that's what I'm called hahaha.
@elregresara412
Жыл бұрын
I live live in Florida i am a Tech for Chevrolet . lol
Best mechanic I have ever watched on KZread. Very knowledgeable and straight forward. He actually fixes the problem from theory to diagnostic and then section and finally to the issue. My favorite channel now.
Diagnosing the actual problem is so hard for many of us garage warriors. Love the thought process training. Thank you!!
Salute.... There are very few mechanics like you left in this world..
@gen.arnavpoe4633
Жыл бұрын
Stupid ass comment...
@robertlipperd7352
11 ай бұрын
word up ,no doubt, got that right, preach it
@Billybigrigger-ic7jp
7 күн бұрын
mechanics are all like this,parts changer scammers are all bad
Its so good to see someone who does their job the right way
Darned outstanding video.!!!! No drama. No click bait. No BS. Your presentation is spot-on perfect. It’s as if a normal person is giving the information. And, that’s rare on the tube. Thanks for the EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!!
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much !! Really appreciate that !!
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
@razorsedge is it possible the tin shield near the starter became distorted and is touching the flexplate ?
@Chanchito510
3 ай бұрын
@@WrenchingWithKenny I notice that Noise after cold starts in the morning then Goes away after warm up idk why
@lawnmowermanTX
Ай бұрын
Thanks WWK! Saves me a headache 🤕 hassle. I have a 2013, Avalanche, I got a good scan tool and found a misfire on #6.. the spark plug wire was broken and someone put the wrong plug In. New wires, plug and coil helped.. I’m getting a P015D, P0446, P0451.. Evap and a Fuel Pressure Sensor error. How do I fix this problem? What parts do I need and do I need a replacement Evap line?
Respect from northern Ontario Canada. You saved my 6 ltr V8 HD I was going to change the knock sensor then if that did not work I was thinking it was lifters and I may need to also change the cam. I was going to try a knock set delete. Here the entire time it was the muffler guys not fixing the issue. I got under it and made the repair after watching. You saved my thousands. Your a rock 🌟. Respect from northern Ontario Canada
Thank you for posting this video. This is EXACTLY what is happening with my GMC Sierra (same bolt, even). Your video was very helpful in understanding what was going on and I appreciate your followup video on how to do the repair.
And once again. You have not failed me! A lot of the other mechanic guys could learn a lot by watching you. You get straight to the point. You don’t stretch the video. You give a brief history. Some comparisons and then your thought process. That information alone is priceless! Thank you again sir 🙏🫡🥃
As soon as you started it I knew exactly what it was. The sound was the key here. That is no lifter. You can hear the exhaust escaping from around the manifold. Very distinct sound compared to a valve or lifter tick which is more metallic in nature as well as internal and sometimes muffled. This is external by nature. Either a broken stud/studs or cracked manifold itself. Like he said very common. Especially northern exposure vehicles due to snow and salt emulsion. Death by CORROSION. Truthfully I have repaired only a dozen or so lifter jobs on these due to the fact that they were caught early but if left alone you are looking at cam and lifter replacement. Once it starts it just progresses from there to total carnage of the cam. It’s good that this man is around for him. Good ear as well as knowledgeable about these engines. But most importantly EXPERIENCED. Just because they went to school to learn how it works doesn’t meant they are experts. Experience is gained by years of working on them. Not a text book. Good example of old school vs new school. Very informative video. 👍
@NoNORADon911
Жыл бұрын
This is clearly Putin's fault
@alexpasillas3187
Жыл бұрын
Wait are you saying if I have this leak due to a bolt that broke it can completely damage the lifters and cam?
@turbodiesel4709
Жыл бұрын
@@alexpasillas3187 : No, that's NOT what he was saying at all.
@aahzmandiusblack
Жыл бұрын
@@MercuryRisingFast that would be a rod bearing. Pull the oil pan and windage tray to inspect the rods. Look for up and down movement. Side to side is normal to a curtain degree but up and down is not good. If you find up and down then you may have a spun bearing. Depending on how long it has been doing that will determine whether or not you need just bearings or a tear down to replace rods. Put the vehicle up on lift and have it running. Listen to where the knocking is concentrated at. If it is down low you have a bad rod bearing or more. If further up towards the top of the engine near the heads you have piston slap from bad rod pin sleeve. If the later then a tear down is required to replace pistons and rods. Full lower end rebuild. That’s worst case scenario. But if just a spun bearing and no visible damage to the journals then bearing will fix the issue. If there is damage then the crank needs to come out and replaced if the damage can’t be cleaned up and smoothed out to spec. If can be cleaned and smoothed out oversized bearings will work. Need to spec the journals after smoothing with a micrometer so you get the correct size. That’s it in a nut shell. Good luck.
@aahzmandiusblack
Жыл бұрын
@@MercuryRisingFast have to check that periodically. If there is an issue of low oil then yeah it can come up out of the blue. I don’t like to be the barer of bad news but from what I read in your post that is most likely the issue. But I could be wrong. It could be something else entirely but then you would need to have it checked out by the dealer or someone you can trust to give you the right information. Good luck on getting fixed. Actually worst case would be a new engine but nowadays engines can be had pretty cheep with low miles. Just getting it installed will cost you.
I stumbled on your previous video in regards to the ticking 5.3 that was related to the plug wire issue. At the time I had been chasing down a ticking noise with my wife's 2013 Yukon which I had just recently rebuilt the entire top end. DOD lifter had failed and ate the cam. Needless to say I was having flashbacks. While the new noise wasn't caused by a plug wire issue it did get me snooping around a bit more and I caught a glimpse of some soot at the manifold near the firewall. There were two exhaust manifold bolts that had either work their way loose or I had failed to fully tighten them. Snugged them down good and checked the rest. The engine is back to purring like a kitten. Crazy how something so simple is so easily missed. Thank you for the other video as it got me to look into it more and eventually got me headed in the right direction.
@rightturnclyde8575
Ай бұрын
Did the two missing bolts cause a ticking sound when accelerating?
@dennishassler605
17 күн бұрын
This is exactly what scares me about the newer 5.3 or 6.2 with AFM systems - Why won't GM fix this issue? They say only 3% of the vehicles are impacted by this, but the fact that they persist with this defective system is beyond all reason. Gents - the older ones are bullet-proof, but be careful inventing in the newer ones, because GM doesn't care about customers anymore - they only care about the government.
@cochip__5897
17 күн бұрын
@@rightturnclyde8575 They weren't missing but noticeably loose and the ticking definitely incresed with acceleration.
I just got a 2022 5.3 Tahoe….good thing to look for in a few years! Glad to see some mechanics that don’t just keep throwing parts at the problem…at customers expense of course!
@rudy_2299
Жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor and take the bolts out one by one and replace them with grade 8 bolts
@dennishassler605
17 күн бұрын
THESE 5.3 engines are truly amazing. I have one in a Suburban with 320k miles and the entire car is perfect mechanically!!! I also have one with an aluminum block in a GMC Envoy and that engine is fine, but other things wear out on this mid-sized SUV - the Suburban is a truck and everything is very solid on that vehicle. Gents, buy the TRUCK chassis 100% truck SUV's like the Suburban - the old ones last forever.
As an old former muffler mechanic, I can tell you if you're lucky (or the customer) the bolt isn't broken, it just fell out. Back in my shop days, that was the case about half the time.
@mgmjferg89
Жыл бұрын
On most of these "ls" motors the bolts are broken. After a decade of this problem you would have thought GM would upgrade the manifold bolts but hell then they can't charge your for a repair.
When i listen for noises on any engines i use 3/4 heater coolant hoses 3' long and listen through the hose by using rubber hose it drowns out all other noise and makes it real easy to find any noise. You nailed it.
@davehill1476
Жыл бұрын
A soild bar works better and is safer. 2 foot 3/8 extension works great.
@jamesmoore1341
Жыл бұрын
We used to use a 2' full length metal screwdriver to listen for internal engine pings or knocks.
@jamesmoore1341
Жыл бұрын
@@davehill1476 yeppers
@eliezerramosjr1017
Жыл бұрын
Lisle sells a $20 mechanics stethoscope works great and comes with another add on tube with a rubber duck bill tip to listen for vacuum sounds
@adventuresiwork3563
Жыл бұрын
I use a very long 3/8 drive extension. Wife looked at me like I was crazy the first time she seen me get it out to listen for a ticking sound. I never thought about using a coolant hose.
This helped a lot. I have 17 Sierra 1500 and this is exactly what it sounds like. Started to other day. I hope this is all it is
Wow. Makes me that much more comfortable with the van I have on the way to me to be delivered with an exhaust leak. I won’t be thinking the engine is no good. Thank you
This showed up in my feed and I'm surprised to find I have the same bad bolt broken in same spot! Thanks for putting this out there.
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped ! Thanks for watching !
@chrisfisher1100
2 ай бұрын
@@WrenchingWithKenny YER THE DEWD I WANNA HAVE BEER WITH, BUT MY LIVER SAID NO!!! SORRY ABOUT THAT BRO
Love the fact he literally brainstorms out loud during diag! Awesome video :)
well you just got a subscribe! dude is one of the most honest guy i've seen yet
Stumbled onto your channel I will be watching your info
Most mechanics around here in the Seattle area just refuse to work on stuff like this that. Either that or they say new engine. You are one of the good ones. Crappy mechanics around here pushed me to learn most of this stuff on my own (and with help from KZread). This still sounds like a pain in the ass repair to get a broken bolt out of the head.
@stevescuba1978
Жыл бұрын
It's not necessarily that tough. If you can get at the bolt, you can grab it with vise-grips, spot weld a bolt onto the end of it, use a bolt extractor, or (this one sucks) drill and tap it out. Good thing is, once you've torn one apart, the rest are much easier. Go figure it out bro, that's how I learned before the interwebs had everything you could hope to know at your fingertips. Good luck, happy wrenching!
@konggotti5810
Жыл бұрын
Same here, I was going to get lifters replace, they said to buy a new motor.
@20tea
Жыл бұрын
True! I'm in the Seattle area and learned to do things myself. Too many mechanics around here looking to make money off ya, so i took the time to figure out repairs on my own. Saved thousands!
@FMChimera
Жыл бұрын
The idea of replacing an LS motor due to minor problems like this is bizarre.
@vpjohnston
Жыл бұрын
There is a repair kit that simply bolts on to the engine and secures the manifold again
I am lucky and still drive a 2004 Silverado with the 5.3l back when GM made good 5.3l engines. I would not pay my hard earned money on any domestic made vehicle right now. If I had to buy a new truck I would get a Ram. I know they have their Lifter/Camshaft issues, but near as bad as GM. Ford Eco-Boost engines are really hit or miss. Real crap shoots you either get a good one or a bad one. I had a bad 2015 Ford Fusion for my wife and planned on buying a GM made vehicle to trade it in on and my buddy that is a GM service tech warned me and said just don't do it go buy a Toyota or Honda these new direct injected engines are very problematic. Domestic cars are designed to last just until the warranty goes out then they start failing. He had replaced 3 engines in Trail Blazers that month. We got a Toyota and man are we glad we did. As far as trucks are concerned they are all a crap shoot now. They charge you 60-90 grand and put a crap warranty on them. For as much money as they are selling them for you should have a warranty that goes to 200k miles IMO.
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
I agree . I'm not a fan of the Toyota trucks at all . Had to go with a friend on a road trip in his 19 Tundra Diamond Edition . Beautiful truck . But I swear , a Wrangler would have had a better ride . After 6 hours , I couldn't stand it anymore. Totally turned me off to Toyota. Honda doesn't make a truck . They make a front wheel drive Pilot ElCamino ... Barely hold a full cooler without bottoming out . I'm not a Nissan fan , however , they make a darn good truck nowadays. The ram is also good . I worked for Chrysler for 22 years. The trucks driven aggressively, never had cam or lifter issues ... The ones driven like an old lady going to church , those ate camshafts . Thanks for watching !!
@miket2172
Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way I have an 2011 with 5.3 so far so good I disabled the afm system with a programmer it's got 200k on it so far knock on wood no issues so far I also have a 2001 with an 8.1 has 330 k miles but needs a new Trans I'm keeping it around just in case I need it no way I'm paying today prices especially for the junk they are building today
@heresjohnny5808
Жыл бұрын
06 Z71 suburban and it runs circles around my wife’s 08 Suburban, and my Uncles 2019 Denali XL. Bought it from the dealer brand new and only problem I had to this very day of ownership was the left side wheel bearing blew out coming home from work, weekend fixed both sides and it still runs circles around any of these newer 5.3’s!
@JasPlun
Жыл бұрын
@@heresjohnny5808 You are lucky there are plenty of legit issues with the 5.3l engines when they changed from cast Iron blocks and added active fuel management. 2005 and older are the best IMO. Look at the engine failures they have now on the trucks and their cars. It s so bad right now with the Eco-Tec engines there are none to replace the engines that fail. Its that bad right now. Car Wizard has some good videos on that very thing. I am glad you did not have the issues others had man you missed the bullet:P
@randydeshane9991
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 SILVERADO 5.3, it is a beast with 300,000 miles. It was used in the early days to pull a 28’ fifth wheel. Now it’s a daily driver.
Keep up the good work. My son and I Enjoy your KZread we often watch if were hung up on a problem trying to fix cars for our KZread channel. thank for sharing.
great video. sound and looking is all we had I started in 1974 working in mechanic shop. today they rely too much on a machine to diagnose their work.
I heard the tell-tale ting ting of the exhaust leak the moment the engine cranked. Heard this many times on many different vehicles.
The newest 5.3L we have is a 2002 Yukon XL, wife’s transportation, I love my 1993 Chevy Silverado pickup truck with 5.7L. Thanks for what your doing
@rotelfan2000
Жыл бұрын
anything with a 5.3 pre AFM is a keeper....lol
Came across your video.straight to the point ..my 5.3 Had broken bolts and a bad lifter , Worned cam lobe. Retired tech now..thanks for the help.
@WrenchingWithKenny
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your kind words. Do we ever retire from wrenching? Thanks for watching 🔧
@raleighsmith6296
2 ай бұрын
No I can't stop.my close friends keep having problems on their autos..66 yrs old now .I keep trying to solve other mechanics Screw ups.nice to hear from you. Have a God bless day
@wrenchingwithkenny thank your for your long battle with machines to provide is with honest knowledge
I’ll tell ya another way to check for those exhaust leaks if you can’t see any traces of carbon tracks, works well, spray those areas with soapy water with squirt bottle, then take a shop vac and reverse the airflow, put it at the tail pipe assuming you don’t have any large exhaust leaks underneath, and you will see bubbles/foaming between the head and manifold, it works very well too
@gregiles908
Жыл бұрын
Awesome tip!
@warriorplutotrent3827
22 күн бұрын
Thanks I'll try this
When I worked in the oil patch we had a cheap and fast way to fix most problems with our trucks... Turn up the radio LOUD!!!
@myleslundy6771
Жыл бұрын
Lmao if it’s a patch truck and the truck makes a noise… god knows what the problem may be as those poor trucks go through so much. Used to work for a trucking company who built c-rings for fracking and we had a 13 duramax, too nice of a truck to be a patch truck. I cringed seeing the shit us guys put that poor truck through haha
@michaelnelson9140
Жыл бұрын
We used to say, kick the fuse panel.
Just wanted to make a comment thanking you dearly thought I had a destroyed 5.3L from a 2003 Silverado was puzzled on what to do with it and found your lovely video made my headache go away almost instantly after looking at the exhaust!!
@WrenchingWithKenny
Ай бұрын
I'm glad I could help. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching 🔧
WOW..... I have this exact same issue, when the guy that repaired my transmission gave me my truck back, that noise was prevalent. Beautifull, Thanks
When looking for noises, it's handy to use a piece of tubing--large vacuum hose is good for this--you stick one end in (or close to) your ear, and then probe around to where the sounds becomes louder. It's an easy way to pinpoint the location of the sound. I have this motor, and I was able to track a light knocking noise to the . . . fuel pump, using this vacuum hose method. In the case of this video, it would sure beat finding an exhaust leak with your hand!😱
@greybone777
8 ай бұрын
Yes I have a stethoscope. I used a long screwdriver putting it on parts of machinery with the end of the handle pressed in my ear to isolating bearing noises on processing equipment.
@drewby613
8 ай бұрын
@@greybone777 Yes! Another favorite method.👍
My 2001 Suburban had a mysterious tick which was emanating from the #1 plug wire, but would quit when I lifted up on the wire. Turns out the spark plug had loosened up and was arcing on the head. Took it back to the shop that had installed the plugs and they replaced three plugs, fixed it.
OMG thank you for this!!! I have the EXACT same issue on my 2014 5.3 and couldn't for the life of me understand why it was considering the noise location!!!!
Very informative this guy knows a thing or two about these engines
I'm amazed these vids still pop up; these are known issues with LS for the last 20 years. Ticks are rarely ever lifters in the LS or cams (99 to 06/07). They are generally pushrods having drilled out the rocker arms or sheared off exhaust manifold bolts(almost always the very front or very rear bolts). Probably 90% of ticks in the Gen III motors. 08 and up add the DoD/AFM failures to those tick sources. This engine also seems to have a lot of piston slap(likely aluminum block, which transmits that sound better) but while annoying it's a non-issue.
@FMChimera
Жыл бұрын
@@jason3211 But it's still the factory rockers. Pull the driver side rockers and look at the cup the pushrod rides in. It should be a polished divot the size of the pushrod end. If it's enlarged, deepened and/or looks more like a brushed surface than polished, and your pushrod ball looks more like an egg, there's your issue.
I used to find exhaust noises with a piece of heater hose. Put one end to your ear and run the other end around the manifold. When you get to the leak you will know without any doubt.
Exact same situation here.. thank you
Great Diag. I had this same problem on my 06 trailblazer SS 6.0L i swore it was lifter problem but after digging a bit i found this same problem broken manifold bolt. Good job!
Your video description told me everything I needed to know. Now to get the manifold off and weld a nut to the broken bolt in the head. Done these alot.
@Billybigrigger-ic7jp
7 күн бұрын
obviously not welding a nut never works,weld to remaining stud use vice grips
That's a bingo with the exhaust leak. I bought a low mileage Chevy Tahoe from the auction claiming it had engine noise. Got it cheap. Upon examination discovered a major misdiagnosis. Two broken exhaust studs driver side rear. Took a stethoscope to the engine itself and it was quiet as a church mouse. Oil pressure good. long story short I bought a beautiful 2016 low mileage Chevy Tahoe for $3,000 at auction, replaced the two exhaust studs and the vehicle runs and drives perfect. Exhaust leaks are very common problem on L Series Chevrolet engines. Hope you all get a great steal yourselves out there, but make sure it is an exhaust leak because some 5.3's have lifter issues and they don't come out from the top either.
Thanks for your support
Ya gotta love these 5.3’s I have a 2000 LM7 5.3, I’ve had it 21 years. It’s got 207K on it and I just changed the plugs and wires. At 100K the plugs were in perfect condition and showed no wear. So when I did the recent plug replacement I got a good look at the exhaust manifold bolts. The heads of them look like chocolate chips 😂 I’m expecting an exhaust leak sooner or later. And I’ll address that when it is needed. Unfortunately my truck will probably crumble into a dust pan before that happens. Gotta love the northeast…. Great videos 👍
My friend had an 09 5.3. He had a tick that ended up being the camshaft. Supposedly the camshafts on those years were hardened 2 different times causing a few of the lobes to get wiped out. One lobe was obvious to see with your eyes.
@bombmanize
Жыл бұрын
He had a lifter fail and rode on it too long. Almost always what gets those
I switched from my beloved Valvoline to the OEM GM oil and I was amazed how much more quiet the engine ran when idling. Night and day difference.
@gerardocontreras9547
9 ай бұрын
I hear ticking when I'm by a wall or a drive thru. And I always used valvoline full synthetic. I'm definitely going to switch and hope that can't bring the tick down. It's not loud like this vehicle but you can hear it when I'm by a wall
@martinschulz9381
9 ай бұрын
@@gerardocontreras9547 Funny you should mention. I could hear that ticking every day after work when I'd pull up by the wall at the drive up at the coffee place. When I switched to GM Dexos, it made a big difference. I hear it's made by Mobil 1. Good luck.
Wise and honest Master Mechanic ...!!! My respects. 🙏🔥💯🔥
...brilliant...!!! thanks for taking us along.
Awesome work sir. I was having the same problem.
Thanks for being an honest mechanic
Huh! Thanks for this video. I noticed a ticking on my gmc and thought the lifters were going out. Gave a look and saw the black carbon on the exhaust like this truck has but mines on the drivers side.
You are one of the greatest mechanics sir
Those ls are notorious for the front and rear bolts on the exhaust manifolds breaking off. I've been thru 3 spools of wire to date removing these for people.
I knew what it was before you started it. Mine does the same and I’m missing studs. I just put in those easy adapters on
4:20 BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! My rattling noise comes from the passenger rear area of the engine!!! Mine doesn't sound as loud as yours and it seems to go partially away after a couple of minutes. I just drove it over two hundred miles with no problem, but I think the noise is worse after the trip. Last year I had the exhaust manifold removed on that side because I saw that, three bolts where broken. It made no noise, however. I had the bolts and gasket replaced!!! Still, no noise. The noise actually Does sound like a few coils are ticking! Thank you for this video. I really thought it was the rear main bearing, $$$, but I thought, why would it be from only one side? Well, just a thought checked it again. It's not the manifold and not the bearing. It seems to ch a new location. Now it seems like it is in the area of the right rear passenger area under the car. I ran it for one minute and it was very loud and then it stopped completely. I turned it off and restarted it and it came back quieter. I think something could be loose in thr exhaust the tightens up when it heats up. Any thoughts on that? Most mechanics just throw parts at the problem because Thinking and troubleshooting is so much harder. Case in point. The directional signal and emergency flasher don't work. Change the flasher, right? Wrong! The fuse was good, but it had corrosion on it. I scrapped it off and they came back on. Another case in point. The P4020 code for the cat came on and the computer wouldn't get the car ready for emissions. The problem was the need for a Drive Cycle after the battery had gone dead for three days and I installed a new one. Another case in point. The entire interior of my Tahoe would go electrically dead while driving. I mean, everything electrical was dead but the truck would still drive. When a mechanic had worked inside the dash, they didn't put everything back in its proper place. There is a small Black Box above your left shin that snaps into a galvanized bracket. It was just floating inside it and moving around and every time I made a hard left turn, the car would go dead and sometimes stay dead. When I made a sharp right turn, the power came back on. Something must be moving! I found the loose box and snapped it into the holder and the problem never returned.
that's way better than a lifter problem. I have the same issue on my 4.8. going to check it out when I get time. thanks!
Yea, that’s common. Ls exhaust manifold bolts are just too small diameter. They need changed before you hit 100k miles or they’re likely to start breaking in my experiences. Unless you throw some arps on. Another common “tick” is that crush gasket on the drivers side exhaust manifold (pretty sure it’s the driver side) , they go out around the same time the exhaust manifold bolts start going. If they start breaking, don’t take it to a shop and get got for about $2k cash. Throw the front end up on jack stands, remove the wheels and fender liners, and steering column section, (do the following work from the fender area) remove the headers. already have the new gaskets, bolts and thread locker, and spare nuts, something like 1/2” and 3/8”. Even if the bolts are not broke flush and stick out, go ahead and weld a nut on it, and run it out with a little patience, you’ll get everyone of them, with ease and no problems. When putting everything back together, do NOT put anti seize on the exhaust manifold bolts, they WILL back out after a couple months and cause another exhaust leak, instead use high strength or removable high strength loctite or vibratite. If you go arp, you should be sat for the life of the vehicle, if you go with gm or other brand, change them before you hit the next 100k miles and you won’t have to deal with this again (or before what ever mileage interval you just when they started breaking. Flux core welders do work for this repair too, just turn the wire speed down and heat up, put some heat in the weld
@garyalleccia2793
Жыл бұрын
100% correct. I posted a similar comment on L series 5.3 exaust manifold issues. Looks like we are all on the same page.
I bought an 01’ GMC 2500HD with the LQ9 in it for $350 several years ago because the guy claimed the lifters were bad. As soon as I went to see the truck, the guy hit the key and I knew it was an exhaust leak instantly. Gave him his $350 and drove the truck away smiling ear to ear. I recently sold it for $7500 with only 167k miles.
@jacobauld565
Жыл бұрын
Not to be that guy but your truck has the LQ4. LQ9 has different pistons, cam, and maybe a few other small things for performance. They were only installed in the Escalade, H2 hummer, and the Silverado SS.
@intheshoptv
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobauld565 No sir. Your data on when the lq9 was offered and in what vehicle is correct. However, the lq4 was replaced with an lq9 in my truck in 2014 due to an oiling issue. The guy then developed an exhaust leak. Someone told him it was “the dreaded GM lifter tick” Disgusted, he sold it to me (a neighborhood guy) for next to nothing. That truck is still going strong with the junkyard lq9
@Skrooge303
Жыл бұрын
So you scammed him and wasn't honest is what you're saying?
@intheshoptv
Жыл бұрын
@@Skrooge303 How did I scam him? He was selling it for $350… and thats what I paid him
@junicohen7918
Жыл бұрын
@@intheshoptv you took advantage in a major way.learn to be a better person
My 01 has the same issue. I noticed the exhaust leak with the hood open but never realized what the ticking at startup was from. Thank you!
Ticking noise is very common when sitting and idling for a few min, main reason I have found and fixed 3 trucks so far is the oil pickup tub seal.I dealt with the issue for 2 years before discovering this. Fixed it 3 years with new seal and hasn’t done it since. I tried to find help from GM techs and they couldn’t even help me. New oil pick up seal and oil pan gasket and not another embarrassing drive through experience at Burger King since I did it
I build alot of these motors, ive never had the after market bolts break!
Wow, if he does his own work, I'm shocked that he couldn't find THAT. He's lucky to have you fixing it for him Kenny!
@DSGB2199
Жыл бұрын
I know right, sounds like oil change is bout all he can do
@Savantrez
Жыл бұрын
I do work on my own truck and I couldn't find it either. I can guess that you will claim to do work on your own truck. Hiring someone else to do the work while you watch what the mechanic does is not the same as working on your truck. I can't believe I didn't think to look for carbon building up at the mounting surface. I'm subscribing. Don't worry Thomas I was only representing the fella that had enough intelligence to hire this guy. I wasn't going to let an opportunity like this one too get away
@Savantrez
Жыл бұрын
I do work on my own truck and I couldn't find it either. I can guess that you will claim to do work on your own truck. Hiring someone else to do the work while you watch what the mechanic does is not the same as working on your truck. I can't believe I didn't think to look for carbon building up at the mounting surface. I'm subscribing. Don't worry Thomas I was only representing the fella that had enough intelligence to hire this guy. I wasn't going to let an opportunity like this one too get away
@thomask4836
Жыл бұрын
@@Savantrez - I was trained by a Chief Mechanical Officer who once told me in the 70's that the three most important diagnostic tools I have are: 1. My Eyes 2. My Ears 3. My Nose He was right! Kenny is a great mechanic and you'll enjoy subscribing to his content. And yes, I was a mechanic before I was hired to the railroad. I also did work on my own vehicles, and I was an instructor that had worked my way up through the ranks to teach railroad mechanics how to repair and maintain $750,000 diesel locomotive engines nationwide. The whole fleet. That kept me pretty busy and life flew by, so I left auto mechanics for 40 years and now that I'm retired, I still like to wrench. However, a lot has changed in 40+ years to catch up on! Thank Goodness For Kenny and KZread!
@kenroberts4837
Жыл бұрын
Bruh soon as I heard it I Knew it Had to be an exhaust problem and I've only been a mechanic for 7 years
Great Job Kenny with the diagnosis
Going to check my engine right now, thanks bud 👍🏽
I believe more times than not I have seen people's "ticking" to be exhaust leaks. Otherwise... ignition issues, bad pulley bearings, intake leaks, a light tick sound from injectors and of course a loose spark plug (exhaust/system leak). More times than not it is repairable without major work.
I owned an 2002 Silverado with the 5.3L, and when my ticking issue arose, it was the catalytic converter. It was actually covered under warranty at a Chevrolet dealership. Not sure if GM ever issued any bulletins or recalls about the issue. I was actually surprised that I didn't have to pay anything.
@anthonym2504
Жыл бұрын
Happened to me as well, but it could very well be this as well. Mine is now coming back.
My truck is doing same exact same thing glad to see this video
Easy fix, part store sells a bracket just for this problem that bolts onto the back of the motor and tightens to the face of the exhaust manifold. Same thing will happen to the other side as well, they make a braket for that as well. Of course could you could go the expense route if u like, which if you have the 706 heads you will be doing anyways. Good luck!
@johnwayne007
Жыл бұрын
I added the brackets to my 2006 ESV (6.0). Worked great!
@billriffett1048
Жыл бұрын
the brackets are absolute best fix for these,and they make them for inner and outer cylinders.
Very common issue on those engines. Have repaired a ton for the same problem. I usually just weld a nut to the stud if broken off inside block. Firewall bolts are always the ones to break. I don't understand why GM hasn't corrected this well known defect.
@bigsparky8888
Жыл бұрын
GM PISSES ME OFF THESE DAYS...
@carsondoyle2537
Жыл бұрын
Because people continue to buy their trucks. As much as I love the look of the Chevys, they don’t make em like they used to.
Thank you Sir that happened to me on my truck thank you for sharing this with us. Good job 👍
Most common issue is if not lifters and after having sat is problems with exhaust manifold leaking! Very common issue with the ls, and dodge hemi's. Both my wifes yukon denali with the 6.2 ls and my dad's HD 2500 Silverado have this exact issue. The problem lies with the head being aluminum and the exhaust manifold being cast iron. The two different materials expand at different rates and causes flexing that break the bolts, or even crack the manifold.
i could tell as soon as you started it that it was an exhaust leak. good to know about that particular problem
@turbodiesel4709
Жыл бұрын
Yup, same here. Wasn't surprised at all & knew that sound instantly. It's a super common problem on many, many engines nowadays, especially pickup trucks with V8 & V10 engines.
GM cheaping out on metal quality is the real reason for this. Never used to happen this soon (Or in most cases, at all) on the older 350 / 5.7 engines.
@rudy_2299
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Chevy express van I drive for work, the cat bangs against the cross member and has cracked the pipe where it is welded to the flange, these new vehicles are junk
My good running 05 Silverado 5.3 does it when cold and it’s annoying, truck runs soo smoothly I would have hate to over spend on it. Great video I’ll look into this more, 20 yrs old next yr.
I had ticking in my 63 Chevy Impala convertible 283 54 years ago I would adjust the valves and in no time it would start again ....Chevy has a history of ticking.
A few exhaust studs on my 97 f150 looked like rivets when I changed them out. They rusted out so bad I had to grind them down flush with the manifold to get the manifolds off, then heat up every stud on it to pull them out of the heads. The manifolds themselves were so bad, there was no reusing them, they had to be replaced. Out of all that though, they never leaked although it was getting there. Now with new studs and manifolds, it's good to go for years to come. The one noise I can't stand is leaky manifolds.
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
Sounds alot like what I had to deal with when I was living in NY. Thanks for watching !!
My mother has an 08 suburban with a 5.3. We had lifter failure, and a few other issues which lead to a total engine replacement (not my suggestion) and after 20k, I was driving it, changed the oil. All was well, 50 mile drive home after, and it sounded like lifters again. But after using a stethoscope on both heads, I couldn't determine a metallic noise comming from the valve train. Checked coils and they appeared to be fine as well. Now I'm wondering if this is our issue. Problem is it doesn't change once it gets to op temperature. Thanks for this, now I feel dumb and have something to trace down now lol.
I've recently started to keep a closer eye on my truck now that I'm getting rather high in the miles. I am worried that it could be a lifter being that I had a misfire about a week ago. I immediately changed my spark plugs that night. So far, so good. However I have been getting a lot of gas fume smells in my cabin, especially at a stop. I asked Uncle Google and it said it could be an exhaust issue. I looked under the hood after I got home from work and could hear a ticking noise. I thought maybe it was something to do with the spark plugs or coils. But after watching this video, it seems more apparent that it's a broken exhaust manifold bolt. But I'm going to bring my truck in for an inspection regardless.
Your awesome! Same sound same symptom on mine ! Thank you
Our 5.3 engines are known for that bolt. They have a work around adapter to fix that on the ones you can't get to.
@NORCALPYRO__
Жыл бұрын
Hey brother do you have a link to that or what it is exactly called... i looked and both my rear bolts on driver and passenger side is gone 😆
@itsdavex2
Жыл бұрын
@@NORCALPYRO__ Search for gm exhaust manifold clamp. Dorman makes one that bolts to the back of the head and then has a bolt that pushes against the manifold when you tighten it.
@NORCALPYRO__
Жыл бұрын
@@itsdavex2 thanks will do appreciate it. Also do you happen to habe the part number you used theres multiple ones😬
The 2016 GMC Sierra Denali I own with the 5.3 is the most problematic vehicle I’ve ever owned. I have the ticking in the drivers side cold and it’s the purge valve by the throttle body. The passenger side is notorious for leaking, especially after GM does the AFM lifter failure repair and re uses the original bolts. Nice job!
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
Thank you !! Appreciate the input !!
@dudebud72
Жыл бұрын
I just replaced my manifold bolts with the oem, since the lifter was replaced in July. Im glad I saw this video, I’d be into more of a headache. Happy Holidays!
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
@@dudebud72 Glad the video helped !! Thanks for watching!
Wow!! Awesome video. My 2016 GMC Sierra 1500 just started this identical issue on same side to a T. Thank You for the video and fix. 👍🏻
A lady I worked with bought a brand new Mercury Mountaineer around 2000 or 2001 and I drove it once a few months after she got it and it did the exact same thing, but I think it was on the driver's side. I can't say for sure but I think it had the 5.0l V8. She had only just started hearing the noise a few days earlier and hadn't really given it much thought but I told her I suspected it was the exhaust manifold not being sealed to the engine. A few days later she had taken it to the dealer and sure enough, they found a couple of loose bolts and fixed it under warranty.
Just had mine fixed. I thought it was the lifters also but turned out to have a cracked flywheel!
I knew right when you started the engine what it was. The high pressure injectors will cause a ticking too which everyone says it's normal. I have the 4.3 v6 in my 14 Silverado.
@kevin86670
Жыл бұрын
Same thing I hear in my 15gmc with 4.3
@turbodiesel4709
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but an injector tick is a much different sound than an exhaust leak tick. A trained mechanic knows this. Average Joe doesn't.
@victorcarreon7800
Жыл бұрын
@@turbodiesel4709 what causes an injector tick and how can I make sure thats what im hearing?
@turbodiesel4709
Жыл бұрын
@@victorcarreon7800 : Injector "ticking" is both a common & normal sound made by the electronically operated poppet valve inside each injector each time it's electronically "fired", on common-rail high pressure fuel injection systems. You can put a long screwdriver, a mechanic's stethoscope, or even a length of hose, to any injector body & to your ear while engine is running in order to amplify & hear the tick sound. Some side notes pertaining to exhaust manifold leaks: On a cool engine, soapy dish detergent water dispensed via a spray bottle to suspected gasket and/or crack areas also works well to find exhaust manifold leaks. Also, visually inspect for blown out exhaust port gaskets & exhaust soot trails from such areas. Most common exhaust manifold leaks come from burnt and/or blown out gaskets, caused by broken/rotted off manifold bolts.
I read the direct injection can have audible click. I only hear mine when I am outside the truck. Otherwise, whisper quiet. However, the clicking sound you are hearing is much louder and exhaust related for sure.
He is so proud of himself 😂 good job gary
They make a clamp kit for these that uses existing holes in the block and head to push the manifold up tight to the head. Works great saves having to drill out broken bolts.
@JerryLeeMac
Жыл бұрын
who makes the kit, what do you call it or where do you get it, thanks
@Laughhardloveharder
Жыл бұрын
??? Info please
@elmanteixeira1468
4 ай бұрын
@@JerryLeeMac Dorman Products or Kral Auto Parts
Good old heat expansion and contraction
My 07 5.3 had the cam give out at 167000. I just had the lifters checked with no issues at 166000. Oil was changed frequently every 3000 with oil consumption issue. Ran Quaker state 5/30 full synthetic w/ a wix xp filter
This is a common problem with Chevys over the last 20 years. Every single one I’ve owned, from new to used, eventually had this exhaust leak. I’ve had it in the 4.3 V6 as well as the 5.3
You would think as many years as this engine design has been around you would think GM could figure out you need bigger manifold bolts and possibly a redesigned manifold. I think every single one I've ever worked on had atleast two of the back bolts brake off, anywhere from 40k to 200k miles.
@joshkrause2977
Жыл бұрын
Nope, it’s a cast iron and aluminum cooling issue. Bigger bolts or a different manifold design using the same materials will do nothing. Compare the hemi cast iron exhaust manifolds to the srt cast steel exhaust manifolds. One breaks the bolts the other doesn’t nearly as much.
@MrKhabbu
Жыл бұрын
All said and done the root cause of the problem is the carbon and sludge build up and also the engine vibration. Both put together will have effect on the exhaust connection ,bolts, and other things . Best of the best bolts will give in to such conditions
@turbodiesel4709
Жыл бұрын
@@joshkrause2977 : Bingo Josh! You'll notice any engine that has a steel head and a steel manifold doesn't have this problem, arguably... ever. The true problem is that manufacturers have been using aluminum cylinder heads for about 40 years now, and then they bolt steel manifolds to them. To put it rather bluntly, it's just freaking stupid. Exhaust manifold fasteners can only take so much heat cycling and shear stress before they fail. That's the reality.
@h8troodoh
Жыл бұрын
If they'd use stainless steel studs instead of plain bolts,I'm sure alot of these exhaust related issues would go away ..
@plowmaster1206
Жыл бұрын
Designed to fail, keeps you buying new
Well, the sound was different. It had two separate ticks going on - completely different than a lifter tick. Auto Repair is 90% diagnostics and 10% changing parts. Kenny knows how to diagnose so he is a golden mechanic.
Thank you so much for sharing this !!!.
My 13 RAM does the same thing. Been doing it forever. Broken exhaust manifold bolts. I knew where you were going from the start of the video.
I have a 02 Silverado with a 5.3 and have 575,000 miles. Blowing a little blue smoke on startup. Ticked since I've bought it new at start up an sitting long times and idling
@elliebro3370
Жыл бұрын
I got a 99 1500 5.3 with 255,000.. Thing runs great!!! I love that truck.. I sure hope i get 555,000 out of mine!
@buddycochransr.1842
Жыл бұрын
Educational
@anthonynicholich9654
Жыл бұрын
How many transmissions have you replaced for those miles 3 or 4?
@elliebro3370
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonynicholich9654 Same transmission
@forgotten320
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonynicholich9654 replaced first one at 250,000 then the another at 575,000. Currently on a good used one that came out of a wrecked Tahoe. The second one was bought as a remanufactured from Chevrolet and just lost 2nd and 4th.
I had a ticking noise on my 17 Tahoe. Dealer caused so many excuses. I found another KZread video where it was the vacuum pump on the front lower drivers side of the engine. Sounded just like a lifter or exhaust leak. Finally got the dealer to change the pump and quiet as a mouse.
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
Thats awesome !!
@tommycrump8525
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking I had a lifter tick and was looking at Afm delete kit. I read this comment and went to check the vacuum pump and I do believe it could be the pump. I replaced the pump about 3 months before GM recalled them. Kenny is there any way I can definitely rule out the lifter?
@fiero880
Жыл бұрын
The vacuum pump has a stretch drive belt on it. you can attempt to take the belt off the pump if you can figure out a way of how to get the belt back on the pump or what I did was I used a microphone and put it on the back of the pump and you can clearly hear the ticking coming from there.
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
@@fiero880 , great info !! Thank you !!
@WrenchingWithKenny
Жыл бұрын
@@tommycrump8525, like fiero880 said , remove the belt on the pump . Even though you replaced the pump , it could be faulty . Check all the manifold bolts and make sure none are broken . You can get a mechanics stethoscope at Harbor Freight to place on the valve cover and vacuum pump to try and pinpoint where the noise is coming from.
Worked on many vehicles that have this noise aside lifters etc Have been due to exhaust manifolds
Excellent job I learned something thank you so much
Loose spark plug also could also cause that squeaking noise. That was my immediate thought when I heard the squeak. When I do lifters I always replace manifold bolts. I hate when people don’t do that.