I'm a Rangers supporter, I can say Celtic are easily the bigger club.

@tonyspoetry

4 күн бұрын

I'm a Celtic fan and the same applies for Rangers.

@phildemetriou440

22 сағат бұрын

I'm a reality fan.....and you're both clowns 😁

@palermothegoalgod-wd2wp

16 сағат бұрын

Rangers fan also, both clubs are monumentaly bigger than city

Whenever I travel, I only see, Man U, Liverpool, Celtic and Rangers bars in every bloody corner and every city in the world those 4 clubs are way different than any other club in UK. They are beyond just football teams its a whole other game when it comes to there support.

@barryh.4220

4 күн бұрын

Well I'm well travelled too, for the past 30 years, and i've NEVER seen ANY of the bars you mention!

@MrAlkazal

4 күн бұрын

Go anywhere in America Canada Europe no question there is a rangers club ok shirt sales now countries are for English premiership but don't ever tell me rangers or even Celtic have more clubs over the world

@englanduk6131

4 күн бұрын

@kehua....seen many rangers and celtic pubs everywhere but never seen a utd or liverpool pub other than at their grounds!

@shaunward6996

2 күн бұрын

@@barryh.4220 shut up Barry and don't lie

@beheumband5758

2 күн бұрын

​@@barryh.4220You need to go to Specsavers

Man Utd, Liverpool, Rangers, Celtic 4 biggest clubs in the UK

@craigalanwilson

28 күн бұрын

Exactly right.

@JJLYOUTUBE

28 күн бұрын

Spot on. I don't think people down south realise how big the Old Firm is. Huge fan base. What I will say is, with my experience down south, I've seen a lot more Arsenal strips kicking about. Arsenal are a massive club, but Man Utd and Liverpool are in a different level.

@raijinenel3116

27 күн бұрын

Arsenal, even Spurs have a bigger fan base abroad than the Scotch teams though.

@Grant-gk5mw

26 күн бұрын

​@@raijinenel3116no they dont. Not even close.

@rabmcnair4488

25 күн бұрын

We are talking about big clubs not dead clubs. So you can leave sevco out of the conversation. Celtic have won more trophies in one season than sevco have won in their entire history.

City are the best team not the biggest club

@Lesthered

29 күн бұрын

Neither

@environm3ntalist549

29 күн бұрын

@@Lestheredwell they are the best team

@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball

28 күн бұрын

@@environm3ntalist549 best manager but i think liverpool have a better team on paper

@k.a.n.e8636

27 күн бұрын

@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEballno

@rabmcnair4488

25 күн бұрын

City can't even fill their stadium for the Champions League.

From a rangers fan celtic are a bigger club than city

@adeo767

28 күн бұрын

City have 52.8 million followers on instagram, Celtic have less than a million!. Where are all those Celtic fans?? They don’t use social media in this day and age????

@greenockbhoy7347

28 күн бұрын

So we are going with instagram followers now 😂 I’ve been to many country’s but never saw a Man City pub, plenty of Celtic pubs, in fact there’s Celtic holidays destinations like Santa Ponsa.

@Metali-tin

27 күн бұрын

​@@greenockbhoy7347 lol There are definitely City themed pubs the world over but that's a worse way to measure it than social media counts(both City and Liverpool have over 131 million followers across the four main social media platforms of Insta, FB, X, TikTok btw) because it generally only tells you who the owner supports. He'd have very few customers if it was exclusive, you can't have thought this out. Every argument these anti-city nonsense posts throw up is superficial, in the sense that they offer flimsy measures to gauge fan counts. Such as: First hand visual accounts of counting shirts on holidays, number of supporters clubs globally(half could be empty, it doesn't tell us much at all), now themed pubs... My word, talk about scraping the barrel lol. I can tell you this, many blues have counted more City shirts than United Liverpool shirts in recent years while on their jollies... but they don't get carried away because there's probably cognitive bias at play here because obviously there are more United and Liverpool fans still. Just something for you to think about. Or just carry on deluding yourself with these flimsy measure while ignoring all the accepted ones such as broadcast viewing numbers, shirt sales, social media accounts, number of unique visitors to the stadium per season perhaps?(haven't even looked but I'm guessing City would trounce Celtic). More recent figures for you from the M.E.N 99% of the City fanbase now resides outside of the UK, citizens membership subscriptions went up 108% last year on the year before....City have been the fastest growing club in world football for over a decade... But Celtic are still bigger... When Scottish football itself isn't relevant globally(harsh but true), how can you begin to believe that?

@christophebonhoefferofbelg9846

26 күн бұрын

@@adeo767..I wonder where all those City fans were before the mega millionaires turned ..It’ll be the same for Newcastle in a few years. Celtic have a bigger history.

@jayem1980

26 күн бұрын

​@@JDH1888so what's your point why are Celtic obsessed with being bigger than everyone else

Celtic are definitely a bigger club than city

@craigalanwilson

28 күн бұрын

Agreed

@Footszeckelman

10 күн бұрын

Ireland comes to mind. Do you reckon Haaland would have signed for Celtic 😂😂😂

@pagimaidj

3 күн бұрын

Well, he is a Celt isn't he?

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

Maybe half a century ago but not now. City dwarf celtic.

@craigrothwell6144

2 сағат бұрын

In Scotland :)

Celtic have supporter clubs everywhere. No matter what city your in, you can find a club showing the game. Man city doesn't have that kind of following

@PjMasks-qu6bb

29 күн бұрын

In Africa noone watches celtic games💯

@leannecampbell4551

29 күн бұрын

@@PjMasks-qu6bb Plenty of Celtic supporters in South Africa and West Africa; Ghana, Liberia, Mali, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, for example.

@adeo767

29 күн бұрын

No one watches Celtic in Africa or Asia, absolutely no one! While plenty watches Man City in Africa and Asia…

@vincentmcnabb939

29 күн бұрын

@@PjMasks-qu6bb Yes, and they are all joke fans.

@vincentmcnabb939

29 күн бұрын

@@adeo767 African and Asian fans are fanbois. They could tell you very little about the history of the teams the follow. They are just commercial fans. Celtic fans are hardcore.

The reason they would never invite Celtic to play in’t EPL. Within 5 seasons Celtic would be challenging the top 5 every season. Fanbase worldwide is massive. With EPL money to spend Celtic would be a behemoth 🍀

@Bears84

8 күн бұрын

Rangers too?

@truthoverlies1820

3 күн бұрын

I love Celtic but you're wrong. Premier League players are multi millionaires nowadays..and why live in cold, rainy Scotland when u could live in a posh area of London or be payed gazillions by man city or Newcastle? It would take at least 7 years for the Old Firm to be cemented in the top 4 or 5 imo.

@johntate5050

20 сағат бұрын

If Celtic's fanbase is massive Sky would already be pumping billions into the SPL because there'd be a massive financial return. Why are all these Celtic fans not putting their hands in their pockets now? Why are they all waiting to join the English league? The global fanbase is a myth. Celtic played Sydney in Sydney because Celtic thought they'd capitalise on the Ange popularity but the stadium was practically empty. No one was interested.

@Bears84

19 сағат бұрын

@@johntate5050 You are absolutely clueless.

@johntate5050

17 сағат бұрын

@@Bears84 Explain why I'm clueless then. Tell me why celtic's 'massive global fanbase' is of no interest to Sky. Tell me why City are in the top ten of most shirt sales globally but Celtic aren't. Fans buy shirts. Man City sell millions more than celtic. Think about that....MILLIONS.

Celtic are on another level to city and always will be .

@carl3681

9 күн бұрын

Correct.......you are on the first floor and man city is at the top in the penthouse.....you TiT.

As a city fan, all ive ever heard from rival fans is 'city will never be a big club until they win the champions league' now we have and surprise surprise the goalposts have moved 🤣

@hypez1819

28 күн бұрын

😢

@PerfectMask1

21 күн бұрын

Aww 😢

@joekavanagh7171

8 күн бұрын

Are Nottingham Forest a big club? They have won twice as many European Cups as Manchester City.

I'm from South Africa.... I'm seeing more and more kids and young adults wearing City jerseys. It's the older generation who still support Liv and ManU. This makes sense. The more they win and build a legacy, more people will support. It's not complicated

@danielmacdonald721

29 күн бұрын

They don’t have a legacy tho. They’re the biggest cheats in the history of football. 115, everyone knows they’re achievements mean nothing and have zero integrity to them

@kriskerpuchki1311

29 күн бұрын

you talking about older generation as if Liverpool are lingering mid table club for years. 3 UCl finals in the past few years,and yes I'm not talking about anscent history here,constantly in the fight to win the PL.they're genuinely the most watched club in the world now not in the 70s.

@SiyabongaSibiya-pj9gb

29 күн бұрын

It's facts bro man city are very famous now. Touch grass u will see especially the young people​@@kriskerpuchki1311

@greenockbhoy7347

28 күн бұрын

Glory hunters then🤔

@AreJayCee

25 күн бұрын

​@greenockbhoy7347 I got slaughtered for calling that guy Buvey a Glory hunter seeing he's from Bristol and supports man City. One guy said it was sad that I thought football supporters were tribal.

Man u, Liverpool, then Celtic. If Celtic had the exposure and money from playing in the tourist league, then they would dwarf them all.

@treasaseoighe9001

28 күн бұрын

Totally agree Lucy🙂👏👏👏

@declanshanahan3888

27 күн бұрын

No they wouldn't, Man Utd and Real Madrid are and always be the biggest clubs in the world.

@Grant-gk5mw

26 күн бұрын

​@@declanshanahan3888nah you don't get the papes mate. If Celtic were in the Prem they would end up the biggest team on the planet..... Makes me sick.

@robertdavies4258

24 күн бұрын

Celtic be lucky to be in league 1 with the squad they have fan base doesn't win games

@colinwilliams4338

24 күн бұрын

​@@Grant-gk5mwHaha dont make me laugh Celtic would get trounced in the premiership in England and other fans wouldn't appreciate them so called Celtic fans with there IRA and Palestinian flags flying about there heads.

Of course Celtic are bigger this isn't even a debate

@arsenewenger30

13 күн бұрын

But if they played, it would be like a training session for City.

@VivaOogway

11 күн бұрын

@@arsenewenger30 man city have like a 100x bigger budget.of course they are going to beat us

@joekavanagh7171

8 күн бұрын

​@@VivaOogway yes, all from unearned income

@Sam-mi9wi

3 күн бұрын

@@arsenewenger30 Celtic are the only club that Guardiola has failed to beat in his managerial career. Played them twice in the Champions League and scraped a draw both times.

@arsenewenger30

3 күн бұрын

@@joekavanagh7171 How do you know it's "unearned income"?

The majority of kids don’t support city. The majority support the club their dads/family support.

Celtic has more supporters in England than Man City

@labos7250

29 күн бұрын

Man U and Liverpool have more supporters in Scotland than Celtic but you lot think yous are one of the biggest clubs in the world lol

@emeraldabroad2771

29 күн бұрын

​@@labos7250Fanny

@labos7250

29 күн бұрын

@@emeraldabroad2771 the response of someone that knows it’s true

@RANGERSRELIGION

29 күн бұрын

​@@labos7250thats wrong haha

@PaulCelts

29 күн бұрын

@@labos7250Absoulte bull 💩

As a South African, you are correct Mr Townsend. Liverpool and Manchester United are by far the most supported.

@thembelamawelela9821

29 күн бұрын

Facts. Represent🇿🇦.

@kooler8586

14 күн бұрын

Because they 2 most successful clubs so glory supporters jump on the band wagon not rocket science 🚀😂

@joekavanagh7171

8 күн бұрын

​@@kooler8586 are you saying that Manchester City supporters are not glory hunters?

@barryh.4220

4 күн бұрын

Not in South America they aren't .... everywhere I visited there it was City this, City that .... never saw any United or Liverpool fans anywhere.

Am a Celtic fan , we’re the only club in world football to sweep everything in 67 , we done a quadruple , we also scooped the British sports personality award in that year , this achievement will never ever be repeated, it’s now recognised by UEFA as the greatest achievement in club football, and Celtic stand alone in this exclusive club all on there own , our trophy haul is incredible, we’ve racked up 9 league championship in a row twice , 8 trebles , Celtic are one of only five clubs in the world to have won over 100 trophies.[3] The club has won the Scottish league championship 53 times, most recently in 2022-23, the Scottish Cup 41 times and the Scottish League Cup 21 times. The club's greatest season was 1966-67, when Celtic became the first British team to win the European Cup, also winning the Scottish league championship, the Scottish Cup, the League Cup and the Glasgow Cup. Celtic also reached the 1970 European Cup Final and the 2003 UEFA Cup Final, losing in both. Celtic have a long-standing fierce rivalry with Rangers and, together, the clubs are known as the Old Firm. Their matches against each other are regarded as among the world's biggest football derbies. The club's fanbase was estimated in 2003 as being around 9 million worldwide and there are more than 160 Celtic supporters clubs in over 20 countries. An estimated 80,000 fans travelled to Seville for the 2003 UEFA Cup Final, and their "extraordinarily loyal and sporting behaviour" in spite of defeat earned the club Fair Play awards from FIFA and UEFA, respectively., so the question is ‘ yes we’re a bigger club than Man City ,

@rabmcnair4488

25 күн бұрын

Rangers died in 2012.

@steviechalmers1218

25 күн бұрын

@@rabmcnair4488 I know they reformed and had to start at the very beginning in the third division, as sevco !!

@colinwilliams4338

24 күн бұрын

U took 80.000 fans to seville so what Glasgow rangers took 120,000 fans down to Manchester in 2008.

@megalodon6108

23 күн бұрын

@@colinwilliams4338 easier to get to manchester, besides most of them were chelsea fans.... it woz them that wrecked the joint 😉

@Bears84

8 күн бұрын

@@megalodon6108Check your profile pic ya weapon. 😂

What a ridiculous statement city are tiny compared to celtic and rangers give me peace

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

Deluded. City are a mega club. celtic and Rangers are unknown beyond the British isles.

@craigrothwell6144

2 сағат бұрын

@@johntate5050 The proof of the pudding is in the champions league.

You dont see Arsenal pubs in Maritious, u see Celtic pubs though.

Truly big clubs, like United, Liverpool, Celtic etc have a huge following global based largely on generational support, son supports them because his dad does, like his dad before, and it continues from there, through good periods and bad. City are a big club, but until their recent success they didn't have much support outside of Manchester, and even there they are behind United. If City fall into a barren spell post Pep, like United have post Fergie, and like Liverpool did after the 80's, then we'll see how big a club City really are.

@johntate5050

17 сағат бұрын

celtic aren't a big club. Stop mentioning them in the same breath as Liverpool.

Celtic won the champions league with a team of local lads. The first british club to win the trophy.

@sbc1t

29 күн бұрын

🥰

@Busybee65

28 күн бұрын

Celtic are not British

@stephen3540

28 күн бұрын

@@Busybee65Proud as fook of our Irish background. So are Liverpool not British either?

@colinwilliams4338

24 күн бұрын

Liverpool are English Celtic are Palestinians and Celtic have never won the champions league ya pure dafty.

@stephen3540

24 күн бұрын

@@colinwilliams4338 listen boy, Celtic won the European Cup before any English team ya wee beast

He’s right Celtic are well bigger than City can ever be 🍀

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

celtic have been shrinking since the 1970s

Imagine being a small club and being the champions of Europe 😂

@scottevans5689

29 күн бұрын

I'd take that

@peterkirk123

29 күн бұрын

Imagine being an artificial club that has just BOUGHT the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE with oil money .....

@wickedmanrick2582

29 күн бұрын

​@peterkhwoirk123 how much for? Just asking for psg so they can win it?

@wickedmanrick2582

29 күн бұрын

@@peterkirk123 how much for mate just asking for psg so i can tell them thanks

@joe8120

29 күн бұрын

@@wickedmanrick2582 how much for what????

Celtic are a bigger club because they have got where they are organically not from billions from oil barons with over night success

Celtic are the only club in the world supported by a nation- Republic of Ireland!

I live in Johannesburg and I can tell you for sure that almost all kids and teens support City 😭....

@icedtea8547

29 күн бұрын

Same in India. All kids!

@Ayah_Mia

29 күн бұрын

Glory hunters. That's why

@stanleyonyejiaka9348

29 күн бұрын

@Ayah_Mia very dumb comment, so kids are glory hunters now

@vincentmcnabb939

29 күн бұрын

I bet you none of them know who Franny Lee is. The average Celtic fan knows who he is and that's the difference.

@zack7438

29 күн бұрын

@@Ayah_Mia How is it glory hunting if they are kids? Whatever club you support is also glory hunting because you weren't alive when those clubs were founded.

CELTIC BY A COUNTRY MILE ☘️☘️☘️ I WAS IM FLORIDA AND THE CELTIC SUPPORT AMAZED ME....

City are a big club to me and that's all I care about

@jm11111

29 күн бұрын

I’m not a city fan but anyone who says they aren’t a big club now is delusional European champions, multiple pl titles 9 I think lots of domestic trophies it’s just jealousy mate when people say they aren’t big

@randyvalantino6850

29 күн бұрын

​@@jm11111They will be if found innocent of ffp charges .

@philbarton2832

29 күн бұрын

​@@jm11111Genuine question, would you still rate city as a big club if they get found guilty with this current investigation?

@Ayah_Mia

29 күн бұрын

​@@jm11111Celtic also a European champion way way before Citeh 😂😂😂

@MartyyHD

4 күн бұрын

City fans are 99% plastic. Celtic fans it is their life.

People get confused on better team or bigger financially than bigger club, Celtic and Rangers in their own right are much bigger clubs with a far bigger history and fanbase than most clubs in England, Man Utd and Liverpool are respected big clubs because they’ve done it themselves and made their own history and success before silly money came into play, The Old firm are massive institutions with a stature and support in their own right around the world.

@jeffreyjeffery4712

29 күн бұрын

Nobody cares about the Old Firm outside the UK. Step out your room so sun can touch your head.

@zack7438

29 күн бұрын

Celtic and Rangers are not big globally. Go to any village in the most remote part of the world and I guarantee you someone will be wearing a Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Barcelona, Arsenal or Real Madrid jersey.

@user-zv7we2yn6x

28 күн бұрын

@@zack7438 they are though, they have supporters clubs everywhere, genuine real fans not just people plucking a premier league club from a hat and throwing a shirt on then probably changing their team after a few years lol, Go and look what’s associated and attached to Celtic and Rangers and how they were formed etc, both are massively supported by the communities and ideologies they represent. More neutrals watch the premier league etc 100% get that but real genuine supporters Celtic and Rangers are huge

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

@@user-zv7we2yn6x tell me why a City fan in Africa is plastic but a celtic fan in Thailand is genuine.

Bournemouth would be bigger than Leeds by Goldstein's logic seeing as most players would rather go there currently. Makes no sense.

@skiski508

29 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@acarna6669

29 күн бұрын

This guy flip flops all the time, just recently he said Unai emery would rather pick 7th/8th Man united than stick with 5/4th place villa

@Support-your-local-team

29 күн бұрын

@@acarna6669 Simon Jordan does the same, he just works out what most people think on whatever the discussion is and then argues the opposite.

@acarna6669

28 күн бұрын

@@Support-your-local-team true mate 👍🏻 Simon Jordan is very hypocritical at times though

I love city have done since the 70's but Celtic and Rangers are massive clubs bigger than any English clubs with the exception of Man U.

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Comedy gold 🤣

Celtic fans much more rabid and passionate and lifelong. City fans cannot compare to them. City is unquestionably the bigger club globally etc. No casual fan knows a thing about Celtic and it’s amazing history. Only the diehards.

@themisanthropichumanist7050

29 күн бұрын

You're correct about that. Globally you'll see a lot more City shirts; but if City and Celtic or even Rangers were in a final together they would both outnumber City fans by a massive margin.

@tomben6180

28 күн бұрын

Passionate and lifelong - City were setting record attendances during their dark days and getting larger crowds than most of the Premier League. City also have the highest percentage of fans who have been going 25 years+ in the Premier League. Celtic are big due to sectarianism.

@VivaOogway

11 күн бұрын

completely wrong.there is green and white hoops everywhere you go unlike man city

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

Why is celtic park full of empty green seats at every game?

It's crazy how some people don't respect man city's achievements

@salfordnick5336

29 күн бұрын

Because they're a small tin pot club with a pathetic support who have cheated on a massive scale.....Will that do

@bri_____

29 күн бұрын

It's all inflated. Take away their cash, & they wouldn't have any achievements. Celtic, however, literally won the champions league, with a team of local boys. Did city even have 1 local lad during their "achievements" ?? 😂

@Paul_Greenwood_

29 күн бұрын

@@bri_____ troll is gonna troll

@ryanallan3742

29 күн бұрын

Its crazy how some people most of epl fans and pundits dont respect the old firms aswell though

@bleb87

29 күн бұрын

Personally reserving my respect until after we find out about how many of the 115 have any real basis

Fans of struggling former greats always starting conversations about heritage because the present is too rubbish to contemplate

@vincentmcnabb939

29 күн бұрын

African and Asian fans of English clubs are fickle and would all switch to local clubs if the commercial aspect of Sky-driven EPL hype stops or is rivalled. What the hell has Chelsea etc got to do with Africa or India?

@happyhour76

29 күн бұрын

Money doesn’t make u a big club, Celtic were and always will be bigger than majority of English clubs

Every year thousands of Celtic fans take over Las Vegas for a weekend with the NAFCSC convention. You dont see that for many other clubs worldwide.

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

When celtic played sydney in sydney the stadium was empty.

Both the old Firm are bigger than City

He’s obviously never seen the reception city get in preseasons. Japan was mental.

@peterkirk123

29 күн бұрын

If the oil tycoons from Abu Dhabi had of bought trophies for Bolton Wanderers they would've had the same reception .

@claudespeed672

29 күн бұрын

Fake fans don’t count

@AU-rp4fp

29 күн бұрын

@@peterkirk123dumbest argument I heard mate doesn’t matter the point in contention is are the club getting global support and appeal which City is.

@rumoursofwar4624

29 күн бұрын

@@AU-rp4fp this blokes brain has absorbed all the 115 oil platitudes it can handle and now it’s leaking.

@Behold__Optic_Blast

29 күн бұрын

@@peterkirk123 ...which would have made Bolton a global brand and a team worth supporting for people all around the world, in turn turning them into a bigger club.

Simon the Celtic fan is talking total rubbish. Every non-local player comes for the money, it’s not limited to Citeh. Rooney is a Scouser, a fan of Everton but went to play for Man United, he must be a mercenary then.

@SteveAustin-zv1nn

29 күн бұрын

Wasn't just because of money though. United have a long succesful history of multiple league titles and European trophy wins. City had none of that. Just money.

@user-nt3de2kh8y

29 күн бұрын

@@SteveAustin-zv1nn It was mainly about money, that's why Antony joined United from Ajax even though Ajax have won more European Cups, because United pay more.

@liammeehan6592

29 күн бұрын

Rooney is actually a Celtic fan to

@TM-xb3wy

27 күн бұрын

Yes Marias, in some respects he is a mercenary.

Andy Townsend is correct. I'm a Rangers supporter.

They are bigger than city!

You can very easily define which clubs are bigger than other. You have to actually put some time and anlytics and data behind but it can be done. You use a weighted matrix with a range of categories and scoring against each, define which are the most important and least important factors, use some common sense to set a baseline and then you can make tweaks but you'll actually have a tool that works. Me and some friends did this years back rather than being bored at work, I've made a start at recreating it but it takes time and I have a day job. If someone who actually works in football wanted to do this it is very doable but sports journalist would rather debate over nothing than actual do the work. Using a single definition to define what is a big club or which is bigger than another makes no sense as shown here. If Man City win 20 Champions Leagues, make more money than any other club in the world, any other kind of metric but if you go to South Africa and don't see random people wearing a Man City shirt makes them a small club? No substance behind that. History, recent history, trophys, potential, revenue, tv viewers, season ticket holders, stadium capacity, cultural impact, general audience recognition, etc etc. ALL of these things and more determine what makes the club a certain size, it never boils down to 1 or 2 things.

Being the biggest club in scotland is like saying you're the worlds tallest dwarf its meaningless

@slightlyconfused876

29 күн бұрын

Good analogy.

@user-zv7we2yn6x

29 күн бұрын

You are either a young man in your 20s and don’t understand or just haven’t a clue, It’s not just in Scotland, Celtic we’re formed by Irish Catholics as a charity to feed the poor Irish immigrants, so they are a Hub all over the world for the Irish, They are absolutely huge, Both them and Rangers are massively supported by the two communities and ideologies they represent, they aren’t just football clubs they are institutions.

@stefanritchie1849

29 күн бұрын

I hope your second name is Wales and your not from Wales....

@wales123100

29 күн бұрын

@@stefanritchie1849 cymraeg ydw i

@stefanritchie1849

29 күн бұрын

In that case you've literally explained you country. It's dependent on other. It's just a shire in England.

I was in the biblical wilderness at Qumran. There was a guy in a Celtic jersey. At the gift shop there was a young guy talking about Celtic.

Even Noel Gallagher would say Celtic are a bigger club. City have a long way to go...

Why didn't Goldstein ask Townshend who signed from Chelsea to Aston Villa if Villa are a 'big' club?

@raijinenel3116

27 күн бұрын

If Villa are a big club why would they sign such shite players from Chelsea?

@willmunda403

27 күн бұрын

@@raijinenel3116 Those days Villa could sign anybody. Pundits Cascarino, Bent, Merson, Keone,warnock for example were all ex Villa players and the list goes on. Only big clubs win European Cups/Champions leagues and Villa were the 4th English club (behind Man U, Liverpool and Forest) to do it

@craigrothwell6144

2 сағат бұрын

@@willmunda403 So they were once a big club!

Kids in Africa wearing old Liverpool, ManU, or Arsenal shirts from the 90’s is not necessarily because they support those teams sometimes it just used clothing they bought. I see kids in Africa wearing NFL or NBA jerseys all the time and kids don’t know anything about American football

@marvinbrando722

29 күн бұрын

That's because those shirts are giving away. Otherwise, they won't use them

@TM-xb3wy

27 күн бұрын

Wish more young African kids found the hoops. When those colours catch you at a young age you wear them for life man. But i guess there would be no point as the famous mighty glasgow Celtic would never be broadcast in Africa anyway, its a shame

My local Sports Bar in South Yorkshire only fills up when either Man Utd or Liverpool are on TV, that or Barnsley

Who cares about Africa lad? Celtic are a bigger club than Man City by every metric, and I don't like Celtic

Andy is right, Celtic ain't the only ones that's bigger than the 115. Villa, Everton, Newcastle, Rangers, Forest are bigger clubs than the plastic club with no history.

@tomben6180

28 күн бұрын

115 unproven charges and it’s funny you should mention Forest… a club who have spent nowhere near the same time in the top flight as City, even before 2008 City had won more and Forest have never had a single season in their history where they’ve got bigger gates than City. Guarantee you’re a United fan, literally the most plastic fanbase in England. City got bigger crowds than most of the Premier League when the club was in League One.

@tobyflagg8058

28 күн бұрын

@@tomben6180 All that cope and Forest is still a big club than the 115. Oh don't you worry your little sky blue socks about it, the FA will sweep your cheat charges under the rug next year and clear your little tinpot club.

@peterreid

27 күн бұрын

@@tomben6180 people forget football has been around for 150 years. City have had great success recently but they were always a good club before. I support Sunderland, we have 6 league titles and were one of the most dominant english clubs in the first 50 years of the league. we had more titles than city and chelsea until recently (same as chelsea now). City are a big club and they have good fans as well, i dont understand bashing them at all.

@tomben6180

27 күн бұрын

@@peterreid People are incredibly bitter about watching another team dominate football, my hatred for Liverpool went through the roof in the 2019/2020 season for the same reason. United and Liverpool fans hate the fact a club they perceive as inferior to them is hammering their clubs in success at the moment, that’s why. There’s also a lot of ignorant people out there who think football started with their upbringing and most people on the internet don’t remember the 60s and 70s when City won 6 major trophies and were competing right at the top. If Sunderland started taking league titles off United or Liverpool they’d throw the same accusations at you, they’d pretend those league titles never existed and they’d ignore the fact Sunderland get 40k+ fans in the lower leagues. Not that you’ll ever be allowed to compete, they changed the rules to try and stop City but were too late and now it’s stopping clubs with ambition from competing, just look at Newcastle.

@peterreid

25 күн бұрын

@@tomben6180 happy for newcastle to not be able to compete though!

De Bruyne and maybe the goalkeeper would get into celtics team but that's about it

@IdontKnow-fd6rp

29 күн бұрын

Who is Celtic?

@MrLewyboy

29 күн бұрын

De Bruyne doesn’t start over Hatate, sorry

@tomben6180

28 күн бұрын

I couldn’t even name a Celtic player, never mind one that could possibly play in City’s reserves 😂

@TM-xb3wy

27 күн бұрын

Agreed, possibly haaland as backup to kyo kyo kyoooogooo!

celtic have800+ supporters clubs throughout the world -

Would be great if people just supported their local team instead of supporting clubs that win all the time who are in different city’s countries and even continents. Even Goldstein a Londoner who supports Man Utd, I mean there is plenty of London clubs to choose from

Big clubs that have won the square root of absolutely f all for years.

@richharris3016

29 күн бұрын

Still big though, city are not and that's a fact!

@Lesthered

29 күн бұрын

Big on charges 115 of em 😂 .

@colinfarrelly2513

29 күн бұрын

@@Lesthered If they ever get there.

@colinfarrelly2513

29 күн бұрын

@@richharris3016 I have no dog in the fight. City at present is the best in the land without doubt on the pitch, you can harp back but at present nothing is touching them. Until or if they ever get sanctioned and relegated.

@richharris3016

29 күн бұрын

@@colinfarrelly2513 Being the best on the pitch does not make you a big club buddy, the revenue that say city and united can pull is vastly different, in fact, its huge.

1. Mancheter United 2. Liverpool 3. Celtic 4. Rangers 5. The rest... Every trophy won by an English team after 1992 should have an asterisk on it.

Give me a city salary and i'd play for Celtic all day everyday, amazing club, wish they were in the prem

To be fair they’re bigger than every Premier League club except Liverpool.

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

Seeing as man Utd are bigger than Liverpool that tells us everything we need to know about your knowledge of football.

@tournaline3448

12 сағат бұрын

@@johntate5050 In what sense? Man Utd “fans” tend to be people with little or no knowledge of football at all. I wouldn’t count their association to the club as anything really.

Not anymore, our success has made us a bigger club. Facts!

@peterkirk123

29 күн бұрын

If found guilty of fraud when the 115 charges get scrutinized will the so called success be inauthentic achievements from a plastic club ?

@claudespeed672

29 күн бұрын

Nottingham forest have more champions leagues than Man City.

@MegaColin1972

29 күн бұрын

@@peterkirk123 Plastic club but your still watching and commenting on videos about little old city 😂

@salfordnick5336

29 күн бұрын

You'll be supporting arsenal in 18 months when city are back in league 1

@mr.sushi2221

29 күн бұрын

Your success has made you more successful, glory hunter’s always support teams like city. My dad is an old fan and didn’t even know who they were until 2013. Orlando pirates are a bigger club than city.

Clickbait rubbish. Most people can’t name a single current Celtic player.

@SteveAustin-zv1nn

29 күн бұрын

Chris Sutton?😏

@StephenCarrIsBald

29 күн бұрын

Henrik Larsson!

@Behold__Optic_Blast

29 күн бұрын

That Japanese fella, what's his name again...🤔

@Support-your-local-team

29 күн бұрын

Most English fans can name about 8 players outside of England so that isn't really a reflection on Celtic.

@lfcspectre4335

29 күн бұрын

Jimmy Johnstone

Liverpool, Man utd, Celtic, Arsenal and Rangers are the biggest clubs in the UK and abroad and are in the larger group including the Ajax’s Bayern, Milan, Inter, Barca, Real, Benfica, River Plate, Boca and a host of others. Long Histories, Multiple eras of success, Iconic clubs who even when going through barren spells or financial distress retain a level of prestige and certain expectations. Those five have massive supporter bases around the world that are multi-generational not just new followers who latch on to current successful teams in the prem. That being said Man City have always had one of the best local support of any team in English football as evidenced by Maine Road always rocking when they were in the doldrums.

Arsenal has fans in all corners of the globe, too. Not just Man u or Liverpool.

Of course Celtic are bigger, you’ve got to be stupid to think otherwise

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

celtic are tiny

Andy Townsend was very respected till he started saying things like this

@1Jameskelly

29 күн бұрын

But he's right! Travel the world and will see!!

@samuelkoomson6017

29 күн бұрын

@@1Jameskellyin Ghana, I sea lot of people wearing City’s kits

Going to the highest bidder is the definition of a mercenary. As the guy on the call said, big clubs grow up over time. City and Chelsea bought it.

the appeal of the premiership teams is due mainly to the world wide saturation of their matches and the money that has been pumped into it .prior to that a lot of these clubs were not anythin special

I remember Andy Townsend saying Odsonne Édouard was gonna tear it up at Palace after leaving Celtic😂😂😂

@Sam-mi9wi

29 күн бұрын

Tbf he wasn't being played properly under Viera and Hodgson was awful

@colinwilliams4338

24 күн бұрын

He went to palace for better and bigger wages as Celtic couldn't afford to give him an extra 20quid.the same with John McGinn they wouldn't pay him wat he wanted so he went to villa.

@alfieb6711

22 күн бұрын

@@colinwilliams4338 yes i remember that’s when he was leaving Hibernian right

Celtic fan here. City are a wonderful team. One of the best ever. They have wonderful players, a wonderful manager and they play wonderful football. But. They’ll never have the soul of a Celtic, a Man United or even an Everton. They’re a rich man’s play thing who could have been any one of about 20 other clubs.

@motr1912

29 күн бұрын

And there is the problem. People don't look beyond the past few years when talking about clubs like City. Man Utd were bang average before the Premier League.

@cameronmilton7819

29 күн бұрын

So ignorant. We have soul but of course as a rival fan you only look at the money. 30k fans in the old division two before the takeover

@marcgreen6926

29 күн бұрын

No soul? Pretty sure we're an older club than Celtic, and we also won trophies before most of the "big" clubs in England.

If celtic played in epl, they would be one of biggest teams in the world, with the irish connection Man utd, and liverpool get alot of there fan base from irish roots If celtic were in epl, they would have just as many fans as anyone, and they would get world exposure that they cannot get now. Celtic could fill up there massive stadium every week if they were playing english teams. Because celtic is based on irish catholic, it would have a massive fan base if it was playing in epl. I understand why scots do not want that, as celtic and rangers are the only ones protecting there leagues. But celtic miss out on fortunes not playing massive teams, and celtic would have one of worlds biggest fan bases if they were in epl, with there irish links to that team. Celtic is way bigger then man city, as a potential business model

Celtic 😂 oh soooo funny made my day

@user-zv7we2yn6x

29 күн бұрын

Go and educate yourself on the Old Firn, you will soon see how big they are, both of their fanbases absolutely dwarfs almost every club in England.

City will be viewed similarly to Lance Armstrong long term, financially doped championships that have an asterisk beside them.

This is not even a debate

He's not wrong

He is right

Manchester City are a richer club than Celtic. Celtic are a bigger club than Manchester City. Many people don’t know the difference. Put it this way, if Celtic were administrated down to the bottom tier of Scottish football in League Two and had to go and play at a local park, Celtic would still have tens of thousands fans turning up to their games. If Manchester City lost their dirty oil billions and got relegated to the bottom tier of English football they would have absolutely no fans. THAT is difference between a BIG club and a RICH club.

@TheG3neralLee

29 күн бұрын

Just not true though is it 😂

@Marais-cu3vo

29 күн бұрын

A big club in Scotland. For the rest of us, Celtic are as relevant as Red Star Belgrade or Rosenborg. Most people outside Scotland don’t care about the Scottish league.

@celticfan67

29 күн бұрын

@@Marais-cu3vo I can guarantee you there will easily be more Celtic pubs outside the UK than Manchester City pubs

@jaymuny6126

29 күн бұрын

@@celticfan67 city had massive turnout in the lower divisions already

@celticfan67

29 күн бұрын

@@jaymuny6126 not compared to Celtic they didn’t

100% correct

Big club! 😂 They can't even fill the emptyhad! 😂😂😂

Man city is such a huge club that their manager had to advertise that they play a game over the weekend so people could fill emptyhad. City is 3rd biggest in the Manchester just after UTD and UTD reserves.

@Mal_Freeman0451

29 күн бұрын

I'm not a City fan, but as a knowledgeable football fan, I'm quite aware that they are among the top clubs for attendance percentage of capacity. It's regularly packed. The Emptyhad joke is way outdated. Their capacity is 53,400 and their average attendance is around 53,000.

@sayandeb6459

29 күн бұрын

You're absolutely right. Our avg attendence is 98.8% . Its always full. These emptyhad jokes are boring tbh. They click pictures of the stand at 88/90 min when people already starts going out.​@@Mal_Freeman0451

Do Celtic have 50 million Instagram followers

@New-ye2fl

29 күн бұрын

No one who knows anything about football doesn’t give a f how many followers a football club has on instagram.

@Support-your-local-team

29 күн бұрын

Tbf if Celtic played Man City in a European final at a neutral venue they'd outnumber the City fans at least 10 to 1.

@Lesthered

29 күн бұрын

And they don't have 115 charges

@jamiehayes5888

29 күн бұрын

That's current 😂😂😂😂 It's called sheep 🐑 It's called plastic fan base . It's called glory hunters . Work it out when they were at main road they very rarely were at full compacity. Watch the semi final against Liverpool in the fa Cup 😂😂 They had to use big flags to cover up the empty seats. Such a pathetic club It's unreal

@claudespeed672

29 күн бұрын

INSTAGRAM HAHA posers

I think theres a difference between a big club and a current successful club, a big club has heritage, history, an array of legendary players and a global reach, City’s success is too recent for them to be considered up there with Man utd, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich. But like Andy said it doesn’t really matter because the here and now is whats important to fans, and right now city might not be the biggest but they are the best.

@tomben6180

28 күн бұрын

So when City were winning trophies in the 60s and 70s, had full internationals in the side, were playing in front of the 3rd biggest crowds in the country, does that not count as history or “heritage”? What about when City set the attendance record for a game in England outside of Wembley? Still stands at 84,500?

He’s right about core city fans, growing up in Manchester in the 90s, you didn’t chose to support city cos you cared how many fans they had.

What is the obsession with how "big" a club is? If you're not winning in the present and all you have is your past, you're nothing more than a has-been trying to make your irrelevant club relevant in the present. Rather pathetic and sad when you think about it.

@upon-fe2720

29 күн бұрын

The whole point of winning in the now is to have something to look at in the past. They're two sides of the same coin. Despite what you think, history is important.

@makcity7850

29 күн бұрын

True, it's like an aging flim star still thinking they are the box office draw they were in the golden age.

@waynebutler7602

29 күн бұрын

That's like saying Barcelona aren't a big club as they ain't won nowt for a couple of seasons 😂😂😂

@FoggyPigeon

29 күн бұрын

Absolutely savage way of putting it... but pretty much spot on 😅

@davidbeeson9408

29 күн бұрын

What absolute nonsense. All you have is history. That’s it. That’s all any club has.

As a Brit living in Mexico, and travelled most of central and South America too, I have never seen a Celtic shirt. This is utter nonsense. People wake up at 5am here to watch city, you see city shirts everywhere. They are more represented than liveroool and United outside of Europe now. The biggest myth in the world everyone is a United fan outside of England. People know them obviously, but hardly anyone is watching United nowadays

@claudespeed672

29 күн бұрын

Absolute nonsense waking up at 5am to watch city 😂😂😂 They watch their local clubs

@dee3717

29 күн бұрын

You liar 😂

@fergalharper3920

29 күн бұрын

Waffler

@Daniyal731

29 күн бұрын

liar went to japan 3 days ago there were so many celtic tops in toyko

Silly argument always bringing celtic into nonsense like this . Right now city is most successful on the pitch in england . Folk who support man u and Liverpool always bring this up because they cant handle not being as good as city . Celtic is a massive club no money in england will ever change that HAIL HAIL 🍀

Spurs fan since the 70s,I’d argue Celtic and Rangers have a bigger fan base than most of the premier league clubs except for maybe United and Liverpool,and their could be an argument Celtic are bigger than Liverpool.COYS.

@lewishookings7536

Күн бұрын

As much as you would probably hate to admit it but you need to add Arsenal in there, the three big traditional prem clubs are Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal. Arsenal have loads of fans in the South, certain demographics all over and if we're talking overseas fans, they have over half of Africa. Then quite a way you got the next bank which includes yourselfs towards the top, maybe Newcastle, Everton and Villa fading out, Leeds gone, Man City and Chelsea returning. I think the two mentioned would fall just below the top three, just above the 2nd group. We had a bad 100 years start of small restricted ground and shite team, but the Hammers are slowly coming round to the 2nd group, just need to have a decade of success behind us and we'll be laughing (we can dream).

@johntate5050

17 сағат бұрын

PMSL @ celtic bigger than Liverpool AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Comedy gold 🤣

@johntate5050

17 сағат бұрын

Did you see celtic play Sydney in Sydney? the stadium was empty? Did you also see Liverpool play melbourne in melbourne? The 100k stadium was packed and everyone was wearing red.

Not a chance. Man city already have more global appeal than Celtic. What is Andy on about? If this question was asked 20 years ago, ok, sure. But now??? What is he on about lmao.

@paulmooney-nl1zt

29 күн бұрын

I’ve been all over the world and seen Celtic jerseys wherever I’ve gone. You don’t see City jerseys anywhere.

@user-zv7we2yn6x

29 күн бұрын

Only because of the league, You go anywhere around the world you will see Celtic and Rangers fans,

@Behold__Optic_Blast

29 күн бұрын

@@paulmooney-nl1zt that's not really true though, is it? Not an actual measurable fact. What city have done in the last decade alone ensures they'll have more new followers and fans for years to come. This is how big clubs became big clubs in the first place. And with Celtic and Scottish football being practically irrelevant nowadays, I don't see how they could possibly argue about this. Can you call yourself a big club when you don't win a CL game in 6 years? Celtic are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned, how could they possibly be considered a bigger club than a team that just won the treble? Historically, there's an argument sure. But the last decade is what matters, and city have grown exponentially and are arguably the best club side in the world right now. There won't be a drop off like Celtic had either. Celtic are just a better supported Sunderland lol.

@Behold__Optic_Blast

29 күн бұрын

@@user-zv7we2yn6x no you won't. You're acting like this is truly the case but it really isn't. What we see is almost entirely a mix of the top prem sides and teams like Madrid, Barca, psg, Milan, etc. Celtic would probably be far down on that list, not that there is actually a list to measure by.

@paulmooney-nl1zt

29 күн бұрын

@@Behold__Optic_Blast what’s not true? That I’ve seen Celtic jerseys everywhere I’ve been and no city jerseys? No, that’s very definitely true.

City are massive! Deal with it.

@Lesthered

29 күн бұрын

Dealt with it still not massive

@renderxtravels8464

29 күн бұрын

Klopp won one prem 😂

@MegaColin1972

29 күн бұрын

@@Lesthered but your still here

There are a plethora of big clubs then you get the elite! The European Giants! Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, AC Milan, etc. Those clubs are a step above the rest...I would even argue Madrid are a step above the Elite clubs

FACTZZZZZZ

Celtic are alot more respected in the UK even in England. City if it wasn't for their billions would be in the a mid table club at best if not in the second or third league

@pjoseph5950

29 күн бұрын

There really not

@renderxtravels8464

29 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@TheMrClutchy

29 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 of course they are.

@faghriedaniels

29 күн бұрын

Why would a basketball team from Boston be more respected in the UK? Because you cant mean that little trash team from Scotland lol. The club whose player transfer market value is 120 million Euros. with a market valuation of between £450 million to £500 million

Celtic are a team of rejects. Watching the Glasgow derby the standard of the football was awful

@Daniyal731

29 күн бұрын

how is mat o reily getting linked with moves to athletico madrid sure hes a reject

@davidmc446

29 күн бұрын

Still a bigger club worldwide tho

@user-zv7we2yn6x

29 күн бұрын

Celtic have a better head to head against English opposition in Europe lol, Rangers haven’t done that bad either despite the gulf in finances and budgets, If Celtic and Rangers moved to the premier league, after 5 years you would soon learn who the real big clubs are.

@slightlyconfused876

29 күн бұрын

The whole of Scottish football is third rate. That doesn't mean it is not fun or relevant but it is not good.

@matthewjennings5893

29 күн бұрын

@@Daniyal731 absolutely ath Madrid are a long ball defensive team with no technique.

A big club definition: at least 10 years+ legacy on winning domestic and international trophies consistently.

@johntate5050

19 сағат бұрын

But not in a tinpot league full of farmers and carpet fitters. Darlington would win the SPL.

I am from Middle East … City everywhere no united shirts or Liverpool as much as city

Who even cares, my cars bigger than your car??…just sad by Townsend and pure bitter…City till I die 😀

@paulorganisation1

29 күн бұрын

City till you get relegated😂😂

@user-nt3de2kh8y

29 күн бұрын

@@paulorganisation1 30000 in the third division says otherwise.

Any club who grows artificially over night, like citeh, can claim to be big all they want. Id love to see the demographics of who actually attends those games. Atmosphere is pathetic. Small club. Owned by an oil state. Ok then 👌

@user-df1qb4xf4k

29 күн бұрын

Bitter are we. Off to the Madrid match and pretty sure the atmosphere will be pretty electric. Oh I'm from Manchester and you.. well you stick to your little keyboard. Melt

@1983davidmurphy

29 күн бұрын

@@user-df1qb4xf4k wee bit offended there pal? Fkin hilarious 😂

@user-nt3de2kh8y

29 күн бұрын

@@1983davidmurphy Keep crying pal.

@faghriedaniels

29 күн бұрын

at least City fans stay until the end of a game unlike the much-vaunted United and Arsenal fans lol. The biggest club in the world has stated that the Etihad is the most intimidating atmosphere they have ever experienced.

@1983davidmurphy

29 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They are

Celtic will always be bigger club than 115 Fc Tinpot club

@coolfamily7451

29 күн бұрын

In a Celtic and Real Madrid combined 11 only one Real Madrid player make that Celtic team ,and that is Zinedine Zidane right 👉 celtic fans 😂😂😂

Celtic are a much bigger club worldwide

@imouto4hire

29 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@SmilingFishingRod-eb8cl

29 күн бұрын

​@@imouto4hireThey clearly do... ive never seen a city fan club, celtic have fan clubs everywhere in the world.

@samuelkoomson6017

29 күн бұрын

@@SmilingFishingRod-eb8clthen you’re extremely ignorant. City have fan clubs even in Ghana

@claudespeed672

29 күн бұрын

@@samuelkoomson6017cause they have nothing better to do. They’re fake fans

@user-nt3de2kh8y

29 күн бұрын

@@claudespeed672 So are United and Liverpool fans outside of England then, why would they be real ?

the older gen will think that,the new one wont think the same.and so time goes on.

Being richer doesn't make you bigger. Celtic have supporter clubs all over the globe

@johntate5050

17 сағат бұрын

And all of them are tiny

@NorthernsoulBoy63

9 сағат бұрын

What do you mean all of them are tiny. Utd city Liverpool etc are huge obviously but i know my club celtic are as popular all over the globe​@johntate5050

Celtic are huge.

@ifldiscovery8500

29 күн бұрын

in their own mind.

@1Jameskelly

29 күн бұрын

True they are...

@1Jameskelly

29 күн бұрын

​@GraverobbertGlasgow is in Scotland mate!! 😂😂😂

@ifldiscovery8500

29 күн бұрын

@@1Jameskelly Celtic is based on Irish identity not Scottish.

@macker33

29 күн бұрын

@Graverobbert give it a rest boy.

Citeh in 10 years will be bigger than the like of barca and real madrid

@fergalharper3920

29 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@ironrebel357

29 күн бұрын

​@@fergalharper3920 I second your sentiment

@Behold__Optic_Blast

29 күн бұрын

Wild. 😂