an honest discussion about organic, biodynamic, and natural wines (2 MWs & Winemaker)

Master of Wine Dr. Pat Farrell, is joined with Master of Wine Amy Christine, and Winemaker Peter Hunken, to discuss organic, biodynamic, and natural wines. They are owners of Holus Bolus Winery and Joy Fantastic Vineyard in Lompoc Valley, California. Check out their wines and socials!
Holus Bolus wine, Joy Fantastic
www.thejoyfantastic.com
youtube - Holus Bolus Winery and the Joy Fantastic Vineyard
/ @holusboluswineryandth...
twitter - @holusboluswine
Instagram - @holusboluswine
Amy's Instagram - @acloveswine
Breast cancer and wine link
www.winelover.co/chapter-1/
Pat's Instagram: @plrfarrell

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  • @magnum1062
    @magnum10623 жыл бұрын

    한국어 번역이 수준높게 잘 된 것 같습니다. 양조학에 대해 일정 수준 이상의 이해를 하신 분이 번역하신 것 같네요. 다만 sterile filter는 살균필터가 아니라 제균필터라고 번역하는 것이 더 맞을 것 같습니다. 균(효모나 유산균 등)을 걸러내서 병입 단계로 들어가지 못하게 하는 것이지 균을 죽이는 것은 아니니까요.

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    3 жыл бұрын

    좋은 조언 감사합니다 🤗🤗

  • @ralphralphjo

    @ralphralphjo

    2 жыл бұрын

    한국어 번역 와인킹님이 하실걸요?

  • @dbwjd9999

    @dbwjd9999

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ralphralphjo 첫 영상부터 지금까지 위의 분이 하신데요!

  • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
    @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine3 жыл бұрын

    Great discussion guys & beautiful singing Pat 😉

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! We were having a blast and did this off the cuff.

  • @Gisbertus_Voetius
    @Gisbertus_Voetius3 жыл бұрын

    In his book 'Bursting Bubbles', Robert Walter describes the difference between chemical/biodynamic wine making in Champagne in vivid terms. It's a really good book.

  • @Fazejackrizz
    @Fazejackrizz3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! been looking forward to this video

  • @kimtaeshik6426
    @kimtaeshik64263 жыл бұрын

    Wow. I love these winery series.

  • @MadAuralSkills
    @MadAuralSkills3 жыл бұрын

    Pat, this is my favorite video thus far! Thanks so much for touching on the subjects of conventional, organic, biodynamic, and natural wines. I’d love to see a future video that goes more in depth on the subject of malolactic conversion.

  • @HyungMinJi
    @HyungMinJi3 жыл бұрын

    What an informative as well as cheerful video featuring an energetic and passionate wine makers / couple. I learned so much about biodynamic and so-called ‘natural’ wines from this 15 minute video.

  • @user-qi8pi2gg4y
    @user-qi8pi2gg4y3 жыл бұрын

    아 이래서 패트릭 선생님 좋아할 수 밖에 없어요. 궁금했던 부분들 시원하게 짚어주시고, 제가 생각했던 점들과 같은 의견을 제시해주시고. 너무 감사합니다

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    2 жыл бұрын

    항상 잘 봐주셔서 감사합니다 ☺️

  • @mbos4115
    @mbos41153 жыл бұрын

    this is awesome, good to have you guys' perspective on the Biodynamic wine.

  • @nicolarossini1938
    @nicolarossini19383 жыл бұрын

    More of this please, thumbs up amazing content!

  • @wineforthepeople
    @wineforthepeople3 жыл бұрын

    Great conversation guys, loved how while you personally subscribe to one style of winemaking you aren't dismissive of the alternatives and note their merit. Ultimately being a responsible producer and being thoughtful about your impact on not only the final product but also your employees and the environment is what's important!

  • @overjeff
    @overjeff3 жыл бұрын

    very very very interesting talk! thanks

  • @tae-wonkang4593
    @tae-wonkang45933 жыл бұрын

    Wow, Learned another thing for natural wines…👍👍👍

  • @user-vb9oq5dp8p
    @user-vb9oq5dp8p3 жыл бұрын

    The previous ones were fun, but this one, which featured two experts, is another fun.^.^

  • @hyunjunewoo1730
    @hyunjunewoo17303 жыл бұрын

    Greatest video about brewing bio-dynamic wine 👍👍

  • @giovannipassoni849
    @giovannipassoni8493 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, grazie

  • @hhj51
    @hhj513 жыл бұрын

    Really thank you for goooooood lecture

  • @user-hq9cs5ev4s
    @user-hq9cs5ev4s3 жыл бұрын

    you've reached 10,000 subscribers. Congratulations!

  • @pigspigs76
    @pigspigs763 жыл бұрын

    I worked at a winery/vineyard beside a very high end organic winery.. we let all our fruit mold and so it floated over to our neighbors and they had to cut tons of fruit to avoid a spread.. later we over-sprayed our vines and I witnessed these clouds of spray float right on over and land on the fancy organic vines 😅 ... I guess the take away is that your only as fancy as your neighbors next door

  • @agentcooper6179

    @agentcooper6179

    11 ай бұрын

    Organic doesn’t necessarily mean fancy. I don’t get that.

  • @pigspigs76

    @pigspigs76

    11 ай бұрын

    @@agentcooper6179 fancy is a relative term .. they were fancy in the sense that everything they did went well beyond logic and was moreso done to appease the ego of the owner lol If you want to know more look into ‘hidden bench winery’

  • @pigspigs76

    @pigspigs76

    11 ай бұрын

    @@agentcooper6179 organic could be the opposite of fancy in a particular context, that’s exactly what Mike weir winery was just prior to spraying lmao they were so organic they had birds nesting amongst the grapes

  • @danielescalante304
    @danielescalante3043 жыл бұрын

    Great video, educational

  • @NickS-zv7py
    @NickS-zv7py2 жыл бұрын

    Great information that will not stop me from drinking traditional wine , but it will make me start looking for those bio ones and give a try

  • @ronaldlee8036
    @ronaldlee80363 жыл бұрын

    엄청난 열정과 그리고 오픈마인드가 있으신분 들 같아서 멋집니다👍그리고 구독자 1만명 축하드려요 🎉 🎉

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    3 жыл бұрын

    감사합니다 🤗🤗

  • @user-cb1ye1zg2r
    @user-cb1ye1zg2r Жыл бұрын

    아주 솔직해서 좋구만

  • @user-hy4cw1ej1t
    @user-hy4cw1ej1t3 жыл бұрын

    I'm your fanatic!!

  • @user-hy4cw1ej1t

    @user-hy4cw1ej1t

    3 жыл бұрын

    fancy?

  • @25ludoviclef
    @25ludoviclef3 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a tour of your wine cellar for a video!

  • @MakingaStink
    @MakingaStink3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video, great conversation! Amy Christine really gives me a Sheryl Lee vibe! Looking good in that fancy shirt doc! -Chris

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree about Amy’s resemblance to Sheryl Lee . Happy you liked my shirt. You two have good taste.

  • @COCODUCK
    @COCODUCK3 жыл бұрын

    Wow today contents is so good so interesting

  • @yhkang9452
    @yhkang94523 жыл бұрын

    매우 재미있고 유익한 내용이었어요. 지식과 정보를 주는 면에서도 좋았지만, 세 분의 말씀을 들어 보니, 앞으로는 와인을 마실 때, 와인의 맛 뒤에 숨겨진 농부들의 땀과 노고를 떠올리게 될 것 같아요. 그리고 소비자로서 내추럴 와인에 대한 저의 기준을 생각해볼 계기도 되었어요. 여러모로 좋은 영상 고맙습니다.

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    2 жыл бұрын

    잘 봐주셔서 감사합니다 ☺️

  • @jaecheokkim99
    @jaecheokkim993 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Wanted to drink natural wine.

  • @joantrendafilov7963
    @joantrendafilov79633 жыл бұрын

    more of this videos please! i love this style of interviewing! amazing! Go out and meet more producers and give us some insights about they winemaking, viticulture and marketing operations if possible :D

  • @user-yn9bp1wy7i
    @user-yn9bp1wy7i3 жыл бұрын

    바이오다이나믹 와인에 대해서 설명을 듣고 나니까 와인이 정말로 섬세하고 복합적인 특징을 가지고 있다는 점을 다시 한번 깨닫게 되네요 그리고 오늘도 패트릭 스승님의 영상을 통해서 와인의 다양한 정보들을 배우게 되어서 무척이나 행복합니다!~ㅎㅎㅎ

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    3 жыл бұрын

    감사합니다🤗🤗

  • @oxnoir5224
    @oxnoir52243 жыл бұрын

    개인적으로 일반 와인이냐, 오가닉이냐, 바이오다이나믹이냐를 와인 구매 시에 별로 염두에 두지는 않지만(별개로 내추럴 와인은 그런 컨셉의 레스토랑에서 페어링을 통해 마시게 되는게 아니면 좀 꺼리게 되는 거 같아요 개인적으로 와인 산지와 먼 지역에서 소비할 때는 내추럴 와인을 선뜻 구매하게 되지는 않는 것 같아요. ) 오가닉 와인이나 바이오다이나믹 방식으로 와인을 만드는 과정에서 어떻게 일반적인 방법을 대체하는지 자세히 설명해주셔서 재밌게 들었습니다. 영상 정말 잘 봤습니다. 앞으로도 포도밭 관리나 양조과정에 대한 이야기도 많으면 좋겠다고 생각했습니다. 물론 음식, 페어링, 여행도 관심있는 주제라 기대하고 있습니다.

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    3 жыл бұрын

    앞으로 많은 전문가 게스트분들과 함께 영상을 찍을 예정입니다 기대해주세요🤗🤗

  • @Shambhalian
    @Shambhalian2 жыл бұрын

    The Frank Cornelissen prices, glad I live in europe. But I find it too expensive.

  • @gagamba9198
    @gagamba91983 жыл бұрын

    @13:30 and forward, spot on. Many want to push that responsibility on the producer, as if those who make the demands think merely doing so is enough in doing their own part. This is nonsense. I see this in every business sector, from food to hospitality, garments to electronics, petrol to mining. The consumer needs to do a lot of the heavy lifting of this burden as well, but the people making the demands tend to absolve the consumer. Maybe it's more complicated to sway the many, maybe it's easier to bully the few, nonetheless, if consumers aren't on board and living their words, then it's misguided.

  • @jicklesjingles8134
    @jicklesjingles81342 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the great videos! May I have a polite request: as a non native speaker it's sometimes hard to follow this kind of "technical" conversations. Would it be possible to add English subtitles?

  • @marcusvandenbroek8957
    @marcusvandenbroek89573 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up! Whether the wine industry wants it or not. They will have to produce more sustainably. For man, nature and for the wine industry itself. All quality conscious producers are already working sustainably, or plan to do that. Organic, biodynamic or through integrated viticulture. With minimal use of chemical substances.

  • @travioh
    @travioh3 жыл бұрын

    Only after 2/3 into the video I realized Amy was wearing Holus Bolus t-shirt :D love the design! Interesting discussion- wish I could “see” their vineyard too (if video/recording was possible) while they explain ;)

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    We will show their vineyard next week.

  • @travioh

    @travioh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 👍

  • @dy3925
    @dy39253 жыл бұрын

    Very informative and entertaining video! One question: What is the reason that lots of natural wines have Brett character and what do you think of describing Brett character as 'funky'?

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    Natural wine producers tend to be non-interventionalists. Wines having residual sugar or malic acid are unstable unless sterile filtered. Without intervention, Brett can be a complication. Yse, Brett is funky, but so are some other faults.

  • @drmatthewhorkey
    @drmatthewhorkey3 жыл бұрын

    Want a way to stir up the convo with wine geeks, just bring up biodynamics hahahaha. Nice to hear from these producers. Whatever helps the producers put more attention on the vineyard, I'm all for... Even if they claim Steiner is god. I agree with Amy too but it can even apply to winemakers. I've sat with natural winemakers who go on preaching about all the natural processes while they scarf down processed food.

  • @oscarayala1366
    @oscarayala13663 жыл бұрын

    Great syrah.

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    Simply wonderful. Next video will reveal a tasting of their great wines.

  • @pusou1117
    @pusou11173 жыл бұрын

    I have not tried that many natural wines, but I have almost found (and this regardless of the grape variety) a hay flavour and another flavour reminding me of the smell of lightly rotten fruit... Are these flavours faults common? Do you know if they are coming from a refermenting process or some bacterias maybe?

  • @trionen4807
    @trionen48073 жыл бұрын

    일전에 읽었던 칼럼에서 비오디나미조차 와인업계에서는 그 주창자의 의도를 곡해해서 포도를 재배하고 있다는 얘기가 생각나네요

  • @user-pd2mg9zz2m
    @user-pd2mg9zz2m3 жыл бұрын

    흥미로운 영상이네

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    3 жыл бұрын

    감사합니다 🤗🤗

  • @jjaebari
    @jjaebari3 жыл бұрын

    정말 좋은 영상이네요. 유투브 역사상 처음으로 댓글달았습니다. 포도밭을 관리하는게 역시 쉬운일은 아닌거 같아요

  • @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    @thekoreanwineambassador1491

    2 жыл бұрын

    감사합니다 ☺️ 농사는 다 힘든것 같아요 😭

  • @sandpiper6554
    @sandpiper65543 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed the video - thanks! Do you plan to do any tastings with the Holus Bolus wines? I have tried most of the organic wines available from stores like Total Wine, Whole Foods, etc. and there are some interesting characteristics. Many of the organics have a wonderful intensity of ripe fruit that I typically do not find in more traditional wines. One downside is that I noticed volatile acidity in most of the wines, but it often blows off after 1-2 hours of decanting. Is this due to oxidation from low sulfur content? I have also noticed many have a tar or burnt sugar flavor component on the finish. Have you noticed this? If so, why is this more prevalent in organic wine?

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, being edited along with a terrific vineyard visit.

  • @SirWussiePants
    @SirWussiePants3 жыл бұрын

    I am 100% behind more natural ways of farming. I really like clean water and lakes/rivers I can swim in. Avoiding sorbates/sulfites and packaged yeast? Whatever. Most "chemicals" used in wine making once the fruit is in the winery is from nature anyways.

  • @Gisbertus_Voetius
    @Gisbertus_Voetius3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if these wines develop faster in the bottle without sulfur.

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    They do.

  • @user-ci5ng9we8r
    @user-ci5ng9we8r3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Patrick I am big fan of you! I have question about wine I read book written by Ms. Isabelle. I am not sure because it translated by Korean however the book said “during make steal wine, wine makers does not think about nature and they controlled when tree makes grapes”. One of the reason I love wine because it does not lie to me like if wine sick nose tell me and it tell they use oak or not. Also every different grapes and different place showed individuality but when I read this sentence I felt 20% grape individuality and 80% wine makers individuality. How do you think? Do you think wine makers destroy grapes individuality and terroir?

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will address this topic at a later date in a video. Thanks for asking, it’s an interesting question. Both grapes and the winemaker are crucial.

  • @user-ci5ng9we8r

    @user-ci5ng9we8r

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 I appreciate your concern.

  • @user-tc3gw8dd4q
    @user-tc3gw8dd4q3 жыл бұрын

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @killerjones1
    @killerjones13 жыл бұрын

    I got a fever ... and the only prescription is more cowhorn! 😂😂

  • @joantrendafilov7963
    @joantrendafilov79633 жыл бұрын

    i prefer natural wine with a bit of fault or "funkyness" than a manipulated, machined picked wine with loads and loads of oak chips, fake colour and all the additions possible - fake tannins (powder) etc. etc.

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am not a fan of the quasi fake wines that you talk about. Some natural wines are wonderful. I return fault ridden wines.

  • @zizy6516
    @zizy65163 жыл бұрын

    I came across the term biodynamic while a studied at uni. It was so strange and pseudoscience to me. till this day, I really don't know if it work or not.

  • @tommihommi1

    @tommihommi1

    2 жыл бұрын

    It works just as well as homeopathy: Purely Placebo. Hocus Pocus. Invented by EXACTLY THE SAME GUY. If you spend the same time and effort on things that actually help the wine instead of praying to the moon and burying cow horns filled with animal guts, you get better wine. Biodynamic Viticulture is mostly thing because the buyer doesn't know what it means, people think it is "super-organic" when it really doesn't fundamentally add anything.

  • @romanwetzel1742
    @romanwetzel1742 Жыл бұрын

    Funny how stylet oil isnt allowed in organic growing here in switzerland

  • @hellored2448
    @hellored24483 жыл бұрын

    Can’

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @cbthomas9577
    @cbthomas95773 жыл бұрын

    As an advanced sommelier, I have never found a truly great organic cab….most of them really suck and the health benefits are moot.

  • @maxeffortvideoeditingportf5389
    @maxeffortvideoeditingportf53893 жыл бұрын

    Hey love your content have you ever thought about being on clubhouse?

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is clubhouse?

  • @maxeffortvideoeditingportf5389

    @maxeffortvideoeditingportf5389

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 Clubhouse is a social network based on voice-where people around the world come together to talk with each other in real-time. There are a lot of wine enthusiasts on the app. clubhouse is invite only.

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxeffortvideoeditingportf5389 it sounds interesting. Please email me at patfarrellmdmw@gmail.com with more information. Thanks!

  • @georgek.1498
    @georgek.14983 жыл бұрын

    Is global warming making more growing areas better for organic wines?

  • @dontyoudareidiot
    @dontyoudareidiot2 жыл бұрын

    a bad day for tasting wine, is a day that doesn't end it wine. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

  • @xdcfvghbjnk
    @xdcfvghbjnk3 жыл бұрын

    Biodynamic is homeopathie is the vineyard (You can look up Rudolf Steiner). It is utter nonesense with no science whatssoever and it should be treated as such. There was study at the university Geisenheim. They look a vineyard and separeted it in 3 parts. The first was treated "normally", the second organic, the third biondynamic. The result was a pretty good difference between the first and the other two. But organic and biodynamic are the same.

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not one study a sweeping condemnation makes! When first broached with the concept, I was also dismissive. Over time, I have visited uncountable vineyards around the globe and have tasted wines from the same property grown with different philosophies. Sometimes the BD wines were distinctly better, but not always. As we stated in the video, boots in the vineyard, along with passion in the vineyard makes the difference.

  • @xdcfvghbjnk

    @xdcfvghbjnk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 Yes I agree 100%. But that´s kind of the problem. Especially young winemakers are changing a lot of things and often the wines get better (e.g. compared to their parents), but it is because of many other things....not because they bury cowhorns with Hornkiesel (sry I could not find the Englisch word=) ). Again, it is the same as homeopathy, because there is just no sciene at all the support the clame. The reason I am not so tolerant with this (and all the BD winemakers seem to be great guys and definity on the right track in terms of organic farming, animal treatment etc.), is that we cannot support homeopathy in vineyard and say it is yunk in medicin. Either science has value or not. That is my problem with biodynamic winemaking and the reason I don´t buy these wines. Anyway thanks for answering and keep on with your great channel....really enjoy it!

  • @tommihommi1

    @tommihommi1

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's some fantastic produce out there made with biodynamic farming, but it wouldn't be any worse without the moon worship and burying of animal sacrifices to please the gods of nature or whatever. If the people spent their time on more sensible things that actually benefit the wine, it could be even better.

  • @xdcfvghbjnk

    @xdcfvghbjnk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tommihommi1 exactly!

  • @yoonkang3558
    @yoonkang35583 жыл бұрын

    한국 와인바들 터무니없는 가격에 네추럴와인 마케팅하면서 똥내나는 와인파는 분들 이거 보고 반성좀

  • @kblakeney09
    @kblakeney092 жыл бұрын

    Everything is chemicals

  • @user-pc8jl1yj9u
    @user-pc8jl1yj9u10 ай бұрын

    알콜은 1등급 발암물질입니다!😂

  • @TheCitygear
    @TheCitygear3 жыл бұрын

    한국에서도 최근 내추럴와인을 유행시킨 사람이 '이효리'라는 43살 여자 가수입니다. 그녀는 양치질대신에 유기농 오일을 입에 머금고 헹구면서 해독을 한다고, TV방송에 나와서 자랑하여 한국에서 오일풀링을 유행시킨적도 있습니다. 건강을 위할려면 뭐든지 자연성분이 좋다는 생각을 가진듯한 그 여가수는 학교에서 과학을 전공한 적이 없습니다. 이 영상이 한국에도 많이 소개되어서, 똥냄새나는 내추럴와인을 자랑하며 마시는 유행이 중단되면 좋겠습니다.

  • @user-vb9oq5dp8p

    @user-vb9oq5dp8p

    3 жыл бұрын

    선생님. 아무리 그래도 "늙은 여자"를 강조하실 필요가 있나요??

  • @6ygrene167

    @6ygrene167

    3 жыл бұрын

    이새키 꼬였네 남들이 뭘마시던 무슨상관이냐 tv 에서 선동하는 의사들 한둘이냐 이게좋다 저게좋다 지랄하는 세상인데 네츄럴이라고 좋다고 마시겠다는데 진짜나쁜건 말안하지 농약에 화학 비료쓰는 채소들 꼼수로 유기농이란 단어로 많이 낚았지 왜 마녀사냥 하냐 여혐종자냐 정치병자냐

  • @user-wh3cf3yw6v

    @user-wh3cf3yw6v

    3 жыл бұрын

    이효리는 자신이 하는 걸 강요하지도 않는데 만만하다고 생각하니 이렇게 뜯어대는거

  • @TheCitygear

    @TheCitygear

    3 жыл бұрын

    불편해 하는 댓글이 많아서 주관적인 표현을 객관적으로 수정합니다. 한국에서도 최근 내추럴와인을 유행시킨 사람이 '이효리'라는 늙은 여자 가수입니다. -> 한국에서도 최근 내추럴와인을 유행시킨 사람이 '이효리'라는 43살 여자 가수입니다.

  • @TheCitygear

    @TheCitygear

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-vb9oq5dp8p 불편하게 하여 미안합니다. 주관적인 표현을 객관적 사실으로 수정하였습니다.

  • @prunoesko5470
    @prunoesko54703 жыл бұрын

    Natural wine people are disgusting. The old wine editor for bon apetit mag almost killed the entire industry.

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not all, but some are holier than though while producing flawed wines.

  • @prunoesko5470

    @prunoesko5470

    3 жыл бұрын

    removing man’s intent from art suffocates it’s expressive potential. They’re are the only bandwagon that attempted to downplay the greatness of winemakers by naming us interventionists. God makes vinegar. IPOB is another animal I destroyed with IPOO. In pursuit of originality. The adverse reaction to high alcohol is not the same thing as quality. Nor is it “good” to equate the highest quality wines with a simple qualifying artistic analysis such as the very basic “balance.” I am the Pariah of wine. I have spent the last 6 years making $200 california pinot noir. The wine world is THE most exciting industry to be a part of. So much revolution and revelations await us in this infant country.

  • @NL90000
    @NL900003 жыл бұрын

    Would never buy a biodynamic wine. Don't want to support lunatics. So even if they only have one biodynamic wine, I try to stay away from all their products.

  • @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    @dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496

    3 жыл бұрын

    The natural folks are more loony.

  • @tommihommi1

    @tommihommi1

    2 жыл бұрын

    arguably the biodynamic folks are literally loonies, because they basically worship the moon.

  • @fredr8159
    @fredr81592 жыл бұрын

    „People who believe in science .... liberals“, only Americans would say things like that.