Amin Elhassan Breaks Down the Jontay Porter Betting Scandal | The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Amin is in the studio to discuss the Jontay Porter scandal with Dan and Greg Cote. The show continues to expand on the Shohei Ohtani scandal, and how betting scandals are being policed in a world where gambling is legal. Then, Tim Kurkjian joins the show in front of his fake background to continue the conversation about Shohei Ohtani. Also, he is starting a new podcast with his son, and Dan is very excited that he gets to share this time with his son the way he got to share Highly Questionable with Papi. Plus, Tim is really bad at technology and we bring out the Looks Like Game to make Tim giggle.
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@swordfish0008
Ай бұрын
If you have a gambling problem… Please call 1-800-you have destroyed your family…….
@maseboog72
Ай бұрын
Right???!!!🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️
As a long time listener, first time viewer… having a daily entree of Greg Cote has been a delight!
@LeBatardShow
Ай бұрын
Welcome to the viewing experience.
@jeremyvisser3877
Ай бұрын
Greg is really having a career renaissance
@ronmexico1652
Ай бұрын
@@jeremyvisser3877Crenaissance!
@DannyDelBello-kn5gc
Ай бұрын
It would be if Mike didn't dominate 75% of the conversation
This was a tough listen. Gambling is a highly addictive thing, and even if it’s more prevalent, not all of us gamble, or should be. Everyone in the sports media space has been bought out by a betting company so no there is no such thing as “no bias” anymore.
@chrisf8283
Ай бұрын
Dan struggles. Book smart maybe but it ends there abruptly.
@johnofmalta
Ай бұрын
I am willing to bet that any child born today who can avoid gambling and limit internet usage will potentially rule the world.
@ronmexico1652
Ай бұрын
Or even the idea that just because it is a recent thing in the US verses Europe makes it somehow ok. I don't like the idea of Europe being the moral integris for the US to model.
Mike Ryan's transformation into a grumpy old man shaking his fist at clouds has certainly been an experience.
@tommyt-tone9415
Ай бұрын
Yep, "Get offa my podcast!"
@johnofmalta
Ай бұрын
I miss Mike Ryan.
@markmittens
Ай бұрын
What did he say that was wrong, he said it's being policed, I think too much focus is on the first shaking vs the substance or lack there of what they are actually saying.
@DannyDelBello-kn5gc
Ай бұрын
Mike actually thinks if those hugh prop bets on a random fringe NBA player were placed with an illegal bookmaker wouldn't end up a lot worse for these people
Kurkjan is the fuckin goat. OG. We need him on the show as a baseball analyst
Kurkjian’s “ block / charge “ line was GANGSTER!! I’m stealing that… allegedly
Fascinating, Dan. I wonder what happens when the "normalizing" of gambling in sports collides with the story of DraftKings' relationship witrh the Bulgarian mob and offshore money laundering.
Great segment w/ Kurkjian.
Crazy how many people come in the comments just to complain about a podcast/show they keep watching. Love the show today
I will never grow tired of Tim's laugh 😂
I had more enjoyment from hearing Tim Kurkjian receive 4 "looks like" than I have gotten from EVERY segment dedicated to the fake march sadness. BRING BACK LOOKS LIKE!!!
@aps5521
Ай бұрын
Makes you wonder if someone has just been lazy with the guest booking…although Dan mentioned Tim has been going through a lot
Great to see Tim back!
Amin’s dismissal of the personal gain for throwing a game or hitting a prop is crazy. “He could make a lot of money in 10 years”. Or just hear me out he could make it in one night without working. What’s more appealing to a lot of people.
lol what I’ve begun to notice is Greg will just keep talking on the “HNO” 😂😂
@aps5521
Ай бұрын
Dan told him too because it’s better visually
The sports betting segment was inherently flawed as the argument was “Europe has had this for decades, America is just catching up…” What that fails to acknowledge is the morality of sports gambling specifically has only been argued and debated even more as the years have gone on. The issue is largely centered on the advertising in a venue where children are not only present but welcomed in abundance. A recent survey has concluded that nearly 500,000 in England(close to 1% of population) are believed to have gambling addiction with another 1.8 million (3% of population) at risk. A different study from The Gambling Commission (the British gambling & casino regulator) said the number is as high as 2.5% & 3.8% respectively, though their methodology remains unclear. The root cause is credited at children being indoctrinated into gambling culture from a very young age. The Premier League for its part have announced that from 2026 onward all gambling sponsorship on the front of jersey (the big money visible one) will be banned with the potential of all gambling on jerseys banned in the future. The argument obviously is not should gambling be legal for adults. In that aspect America has been 20 years behind, but right now, Europe is grappling with whether to allow the gambling companies prey on the children. Currently the Premier and possibly more in the future are beginning to say no
dan with another incredibly odd introduction "he's dealt with terrible awful things in his life and terrible sadness, and now he has a new podcast" lmao
Great job guys. Salute 🫡
oh Tim, you beautiful beautiful sweet soul.
Dan, show some respect. If Tim Kurkjian says his son is a genius then he is a genius.
Udonis Haslem admitted (unintentionally) on his podcast that before his final game, he told his son to bet all of his Overs.
How did they get so lucky to find juju ?? What a good guy
Two people on this show seem to have a gambling problem (Stugotz and Mike). Is that a conflict of interest?
@whsxc12
Ай бұрын
They probably don’t think about the countless families who’s lives have been ruined by gambling addiction
@jejbsh2191
Ай бұрын
@@whsxc12 not their fault or problem
@whsxc12
Ай бұрын
@@jejbsh2191just like it wasn’t big tobaccos fault people got lung cancer
@kylesfootballchannel
Ай бұрын
government housing and real social saftey nets and then we can have gambling problems.
@stevelightcap1163
Ай бұрын
Do they have a problem with gambling or do they want us to believe that. Ever think it's the character they are portraying. Never heard about gambling until their sponsor was DK
Make slam dunks also 3 points.
This is the process working, but the game has already been played and the results aren't being retroactively relitigated
I’ve watch sports my whole life and seen many atrocious calls that I know for sure was rigged by gambling
"Exit Velocity" Ayoooooooo.. No Diddy, that's CRAZY!!!!
It doesn’t make sense long term - we see people and corporations take short term cash grabs over long term sustainability and destroy themselves ALL the time.
Dang, Tim got old fast. It makes me sad. I'm happy he gets to do a show with his son though. That's a really rare opportunity to bond over something you both love and get paid for it.
Tim bragging about his son’s tech abilities because he tweeted a video, Tim’s the sweetest person on the planet
Does Amin know gambling scandals and violations have happened in European sports. It’s not a nothing burger just because gambling has been part of sports for years.
@al99795
Ай бұрын
teams have given up ENTIRE seasons and titles to betting, and that happens like yearly
@imightbebiased9311
Ай бұрын
Amin needs to look up Dan Tan. Dude was having things happen on the ground like, power lines to a stadium get cut with the underdog in the lead at halftime so the game result at half is counted as "valid" and his bets would get paid. This is NOT something to normalize. They are ahead of the curve, because they've had their blatant scandals, and now everything's much more cautious. There's a reason the UK is considered the money laundering capital of the world. Please, please, PLEASE do a deeper dig into European gambling scandals before brushing this crap under the rug and saying, "Oh, this is just it being policed."
I’ve been watching Timmy K. for a long time and his passion and heart shine through every time, year after year. What a gem.
I don't give a damn about baseball but I'm subbing to anything Kurkjian is on. That man is a national treasure.
That's pretty astute, Kurkjian. Perceptive take since the athletes that are able to reach that top 1% tend to have such a compulsive focus and discipline that they don't make the best social interacting types. Distractions mess with that focus and you cna underperform, which can drive perfectionists batty.
I know that they want to make a joke about their show being brought to you by DraftKings, but this is exactly the problem. There is nobody in sports media who can speak on this issue without bias. It’s all paid for by gambling.
@craigboyd6600
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I agree. It’s ALL connected. Mental gymnastics notwithstanding ✌🏾♥️
Sports books always expose irregular betting volume, which is the key to exposing points shaving rings. The novelty of this episode has inflated its prominence. Once players and their support system understand there is no way to participate in rigging games / point shaving without being exposed the problem will diminish. There will be one-offs into the future (like fixing opening round matches of minor tennis tournaments) but there isn't longterm danger of constant point shaving / rigging games in the 4 major professional sports.
@Lunchboxh3ad
Ай бұрын
Players don’t have to be in on the take for this to be a problem.
Amin is wrong saying that players and refs aren't incentivized to gamble. Addiction makes people do crazy things and who wants to work 20 years when you can make millions up front and retire early.
@imightbebiased9311
Ай бұрын
Especially when someone slick is the one making you the pitch and telling you that people do this all the time and nobody ever gets caught. You know Murray could have played on that ankle the other day. But he decided to play it safe and now I'm $500k richer. Who's gonna look at an over/under of 2? You wanna live on league minimum?
Refs might not be the best example ............*coughs* Donaghy *coughs*
“Allegedly”
Dan doesnt listen, not Tim's Grandson but his son. Tim corrected him numerous times but still Grandson
Don't care about baseball, but will ALWAYS listen when Tim Kurkjian is on with y'all! 😄
I really miss the "looks like game".
[0:00-12:34] Jontay Porter allegations [12:35-19:06] Tim Kurkjian's podcast with his son [19:07-34:09] Shohei Ohtani scandal [34:10-39:10] Podcast teasers, Looks Likes Dan, Greg Cote & Amin in Studio, Billy EP JuJu, Mike, and Tony the Shipping Container
There needs to be a new show sound, similar to reckless speculation, called conflict of interest when talking about gambling controversies.
We desperately need to looks like game back.
It’s a problem. Gambling is going to be a huge problem for all sports. More and worse scandals coming
AC/DC can do the NBA theme song-"Big Balls" a underappreciated anthem!!!
Greg Cote for Congress 🇺🇸(he’s of the appropriate age)
Where is Stugotz?
DAN SHOUTING!!!
Bruh i need a break from mike. For the past week its been the mike Ryan show with mike ryan. He shits all over basketball as a whole because his basketball teams arent front and center rn and Dan couldnt even begin the segment without mike trampling him. I wish mike would take another big ass step back
@stephenw3535
Ай бұрын
Thought it was just me. He really needs to learn the art of picking his spots. Getting in and getting out. But he talks as though it’s his duty to continuously talk and have a strong take because it’s his show or something. I’ve even stopped listening at times when it’s one of those Mike segments… which is a lot lately cuz I really want to hear what others have to say but Mike won’t let anyone have space to talk when he’s on
11:30 Nope. Just start playing defense again. Don’t need bigger, heavier balls or limits on 3-pointers Y’all coming up with solutions for something that shouldn’t even be a problem _if these players just played both sides of the game._
When are they going to do anything about Scott Foster?
@Kwame0007
Ай бұрын
Never ..skin color helps!!
It is sad the only way to watch my favorite sports content is through different sportbook productions.
Bigger balls? How about smaller holes, I mean hoops...
You can have someone approach Jontay and say "Hey, I run a gambling ring. I have a couple dozen dudes across the country/world working with me. We all bet on your unders. You throw the games for the unders. My partners all take a small cut of their profits, kick back the rest to me. I take a larger share and then give you the largest share." Someone with a a very limited NBA shelf life making like the league minimum would take that all day if he thought he could get away with it.
I still don't think he did anything. He's known to be injury prone, and The sites set the props. Why wouldn't high rollers, take the chance?
The head athletic trainer for the raptors leaked the information to handicappers
Certainly, not defending him isn't the sentiment I got from the excuse making speculation Tim was talking.
The problem is that more players are getting caught because more players are openly betting. This is what was going to happen once the marriage of gambling and sports came about.
If we are fixing basketball can we have 3 In season tournaments Instead of one regular season It does the players only wanna play 60 games anyways so we can have 3 20 game tournaments
Dan is so hyperbolic. Calling this the biggest gambling scandal since the Black Sox. 🤦🏿♂️
@jamessignorile7110
Ай бұрын
So ridiculous.
Greg Cote is pure GOLD…. Absolute Stallion…
No real player, with a contract of 10+ million a year coming to him will risk it. And the vast majority of players never will. But one or two dummies will have the media going crazy
@dbfro1
Ай бұрын
see there was this guy named Michael Jordan and he basically had to take a 2 year sabbatical because of alleged gambling issues
@KNByam
Ай бұрын
@@dbfro1Alledge, don't conveniently leave out his father was murdered.
@dbfro1
Ай бұрын
that's...not relevant.@@KNByam
@patrickcrippen880
Ай бұрын
Calvin Ridley, Ohtani...2 absolute nobodies 🥴
@SomeChink
Ай бұрын
@@patrickcrippen880 in the grand scheme of things Calvin Ridley is basically nobody, when compared to Ohtani
you can not make millions of dollars on jontay porter prop bets in one night. Draftkings would never take bets for enough money to make it worthwhile to jontay porter making 400,00 a year to start with a rich ass brother
Timmy!
Antoine
who,s eppie ?
@JohnThomas-tb5kd
Ай бұрын
Ohtani translator
Porter is not a big story, his unders were like 5 pts hes not influencing games, he should get kicked out as a message and they should move on.
@Christian-eq6pq
Ай бұрын
You think he's the only one? If he's just a microcosm, he alone may not be influencing the games but aggregated, it definitely does.
Dan says the most awkward things to his guests lol
The man is a walking parlay
Amin knows basketball 🏀 🫡
Does anyone else here believe, as I do, that sports gambling is just dumb? People making low information decisions, basically. Up to date injury reports. Last minute DNP coaches decision. Weather. Field conditions. An endless list, really. Even with that information it’s still just a coin toss. In fact, you might as well just bet on coin tosses. No Vig.
@imightbebiased9311
Ай бұрын
Internet Citizen, have you ever looked into the world of internet streamers gambling? A world where the entire outcome from start to finish is a black box that the user cannot see, and unlike slot machines in Vegas, there are no checks and balances to determine if the posted odds are validated. A world where people play poker online, and poker developers have knowingly put in cheats to let them see the cards of all other players at the table? I feel like an old man yelling about this stuff, but we really have gone way, way too far. It's not that we're nearing a tipping point. We're past the tipping point and we're gaining downward momentum.
They should investigate when james harden tried to block kawhi's shot.😅
Tom kurkjian 😍😍
The curveball man is on the show today!
I never miss Stugotz
Money says believe Shohei.
If NBA refs aren't involved in betting then they are just bad and most should be fired. The main problem I'm the NBA isn't the All-Star game, it's this horrible refs making themselves part of the game.
Put it on the poll When a 60+ year old says your a genius at technology, is it true?
Kurkjian's sounds less like a pirate ship and more like a cruise ship.
@ronmexico1652
Ай бұрын
To me, it sounds more like an exotic port either ship would visit.
Get wheeled off like Paul Pierce
goddam - this show has obviously gone downhill for some time now, but the hypocrisy here is through the roof. Just taking the gambling (blood) money and not even addressing it would be better than this. Even having them continue to keep faking that they like women's basketball would be better than this.
@whsxc12
Ай бұрын
Please gamble responsibly *extremely small font*
@al99795
Ай бұрын
I think Amin and JuJu and all of the women on the show do earnestly like women's basketball, its crazy that they talk about it more than like baseball or men's college though
4:25 Amin trying to inject rational thinking into behavior that’s largely an (irrational) addiction🤦🏾♀️
I was hoping Mike Ryan was gone
Its remarkable how Dan continues to say with a straight face how gambling is infecting sports while being paid tens of millions of dollars by a gambling company. And he doubles down. I don't get it. Mike is right and Dan is just trying to be dramatic to weave a tale of flying to close to the sun with gambling and sports.
The elites be like : Oh we’re losing money ? He must be betting 😂 stop it man..biggest thieves ever
What happened to OTB? They were everywhere growing up. Sports gambling was illegal so long for many reasons.
Haven't seen LeBatard in a while, when did he start turning into Captain Lou Albano?
Dan is either not listening to what anyone is saying or being hyperbolic for clicks. Either way stop
@BennyLava19
Ай бұрын
Are you not familiar with sports talk entertainment?
Yo
The h3 podcast of sports
lol Dan couldn't have been more wrong on this. you can't buy even a fringe NBA player. juice is no way near worth enough the squeeze for the player. Jontay is just an idiot. nothing more to see here.
The show sponsored by DraftKings is talking about what ppl will do to get money from DraftKings. At this point, we prolly DESERVE Trump fr smh
Kind of like the bigger balls
Worse takes I've heard on this yet
More Juju!
Tim is so dramatic
Oh Billy lmao. Why are y’all so dramatic.
Diarrhea… The only way😂
The thing that Mike has turned into over the years....just unwatchable.