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Can we take a moment to appreciate how good both Ian McShane & Blythe Danner are looking? They're both nearly 80!

@Hibbs4Prez

3 жыл бұрын

Blythe is damn gorgeous.

@cantstopwontstop976

3 жыл бұрын

Her and Betty White. I don’t know how they do it but they’re damn good at it

I’m not certain how the story of Bilquis and Technical Boy will come to a head, but I do understand why TB on the whole has been losing influence and power and lost his disciple the CEO. Technical boy used to be very important and influential (like in the days when he meets Wednesday at the Burlesque Club). People used to have an attachment to machines bc they did singular but life changing things. Think the cotton gin or telephone. Now people care less about the technology and more what it can bring them- media, advertising, wealth, entertainment, connectivity. Technical boy is becoming less god and more tool. A tool for people to get what they really want and so their devotion goes to the tv shows not the tv itself, to the entertainment, advertising, information and connections, not the computer or smart phone itself. Tech has lost its magic and wonder and people only see it as a tool. People worship war gods but they don’t worship the swords or chariots or tools that allow those wars to happen.

@sincerelyeugene6638

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, essentially what Bilquis herself has been realizing, so, the dynamic between them is subtle but very well thought out and planned. Techboy is essential becoming Bilquis. He's not worshipped, he's a tool for modern day folk to get their easy highs and rocks off.

@hawkdsl

3 жыл бұрын

That's some great insight!

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

I think Technical Boy is Pinocchio. He is the puppet aspiring to be a real boy, a creation aspiring to claim the creative spark as his own and failing. He's not Hephaestus; he has no creative ability himself to step beyond the tools created by others. If anything, Hephaestus, who created mechanical maid servants to assist him at the forge in Greek myth, may ultimately be his 'father' in the sense that Gepetto was Pinocchio's father. In contrast, the old gods and more especially the goddesses, are the embodiment of creative power in the real world. Bilquis is likely the Oldest of these, and may prove to be the ultimate Creator who birthed the world as we know it. As I see it, when Bilquis poked Technical Boy, she gave him the experience of war as a truly living being would experience it, and she gave him the knowledge of how life in war ends in bloody death not too different from the Black experience of murderous racism. Ultimately, her presence drove TB back to his womb and his altar, the mechanical puppet, where I think he may actually die.

@raheen187

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with your assessment however I do believe some do worship they're GUNS

@gentlegiant6585

3 жыл бұрын

That was really profound and insightful 👍🤔.

My Theory - Automaton is Technical Boy's First Temple. More to it - I think that young inventor in 1893 DIED in the Automaton, becoming first ever sacrifice to the New God of Technology - that's why modern Technical Boy looks like this young inventor!

@thegodofimagination

3 жыл бұрын

I like the theory it does kinda contradict the whole origin of him being created by that cool digital musician but at this point he has so many origin at this point i am convinced he just keeps being reborn like Chinese Gods do

"Mo Fale Bale" literal translation; "I pull the earth down" ,more deep meaning:"I lay the Earth before thee"; OSUN is trying to make Bilquis search deep within herself to discover her true origin!

@learhoden2755

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been searching all day .. what language does this translate to… thanks in advance

I got a "Loki" vibe from Maximilian, him being a trickster and all that...

@Anubis5511

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that as well, with the connection to Magic/Illusion

@TuanNguyen-ko9wz

3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler for the book: Loki is the one that "kills" Tech Boy.

@DC-zw3dt

3 жыл бұрын

He is definitely Loki. Chicago is Trick City

@jacksonestacado7409

3 жыл бұрын

Well Mr world is loki in the book.

@myevilresident3001

3 жыл бұрын

100% thought the same

I actually felt genuinely bad for Tech Boy this episode.

It’s meant to be “Mo fori bale “ which means I bow to you. Not Mo forin balen. They got the Yoruba wrong

@StoryDive

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@palerider1979

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you as well!

@brainsandbeautyra

3 жыл бұрын

Ase'!

@mauralee9987

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@bread079

3 жыл бұрын

They Messing with the images of the Orishas, also...they are getting it wrong🤦🏽‍♀️

for those of you disappointed with the show i think it is important to remember this is based (loosely) on a neil gaiman book. if you're not familiar with neil gaiman, his books have very little action, but the genius is his use of language and thoroughness of storytelling. i give the show credit for trying to create the same effect but i also appreciate the level of difficulty of the task at hand. george r r martin and john grisham this is not

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

And this section of the book is particularly slow. The added material actually gives it a lot more action while the Lakeside part of the timeline rolls forward.

@dragonofthewest9186

3 жыл бұрын

And all the better for it.

@chito2294

3 жыл бұрын

@@dragonofthewest9186 i do admit tho... some anansi sure would help

@6ixpoint5ive

3 жыл бұрын

I adore the book and all of Gaiman's work. and honestly I adored the first two seasons of this show. Season 3 is not any of these. IMHO, this season has completely abandoned any connection with the source material or even the previous seasons besides a surface level connection. They're making decisions that make no thematic or narrative sense of the story. I'm very disappointed with this season, and I truly hope they resolve whatever is going on behind the season. The themes being discussed in this story is powerful, this season has none of them. What the hell is going on with Starz American Gods???

@cwillimas9980

3 жыл бұрын

And, I would add, Frank Herbert’s Dune to @chito ‘s comment and insights. Both the movie and Sci-Fi Channel’s series drove the action parts of the Dune story more. As @chito said about Neil Gaiman I would say about Frank Herbert: “...the genius is his use of language and thoroughness of storytelling.” I have hopes for the upcoming new screen version of “Dune,” but due to the very nature of the story itself (mixing prior years and years of politics and religion), it’s hard to put what someone is thinking (verbalizing on page) onto film, not to mention the length of a film anyone will sit and watch. At least with American Gods presented in series and seasons it breaks things up and also gives time to think about and discuss in places like this...ht to @StoryDive

This show needs Mr. Nancy and Mad Sweeny.

@jamiecrucefix4078

3 жыл бұрын

I haven´t watched the interviews with a actor who played Anasi. Can you give me brief explanation why he was "fired"?

@stickmanbw

3 жыл бұрын

Well from the actor statements is that the executives thought that Mr.Nancy was too militant for the show. Yet to me he and Sweeney were great characters and I hate to see them go but Nancy was to raw for tv.

@fong03

3 жыл бұрын

@@stickmanbw But apparently Mr. Nancy isn't in this portion of the book, so he wasn't going to be included anyway. Jones' response to that claim is a bit all over the place as well and his supposed lawsuit appears not to have materialized. All of the above is to say, I'm not entirely convinced by either side on this. With the mess that was the production of season 2, it really wouldn't surprise me if they didn't know what they were doing right up until they were about to begin production of season 3. It also doesn't help that Nancy wasn't that well written in season 2 (and that was with Jones' involvement) and it has nothing to do with him being too militant. It felt like he was just "there" and his character didn't have a purpose. (That is a separate problem though.)

@stickmanbw

3 жыл бұрын

@@fong03 His character didn't have any purpose? Mr. Nancy gave two dialogs that express the other way how black people feel in this country. On the first Coming to America, blacks were at ahh with that slave story; it broke down the history of my people so fast, so harsh and so true, angry gets shit done is a rebellious statement that this country didn't allow blacks to practice let alone speak of. The second one in which he compares the life of a dead white woman to the life of a dead black woman in which for one WAR is used to be fueled from her death and the other is just another dead black woman. He talks about human trafficking in the black community as America doesn't really care about but if a white girl goes missing than the law uses all resources to find her. He tells hiw we as a people are not truly allowed to voice our opinions such as Colin Kaepernick hatred for taking a new and yes it is funny that this aired years before the Storming of the Capitol and they have less hatred towards them than a QB taking a knee. Do you know that the GOD MR. NANCY plaidba part in The First Seminole War in this country. There's an exhibit of the Seminoles and yes they were also blacks with a spider leading them into battle, Andrew Jackson lost by the way. Many black people don't know this either and this show told another Coming to America story with an Egyptian God giving the dialog. To us Egypt is slavery if you know your history. Yes America is called Egypt to us in the Bible. So Mr NANCY dialogs was strong and gave a voice to a people that weren't allowed to express their feelings.

@morenotheartist

7 ай бұрын

The story of Mr Nancy is to strong. We need weak stories of a white town, heavy metal band, old white woman goddess in rich crazy house. That is more interesting. Not.

I never even considered that there would be a back story for technical boy. Really want to find out more

@darreth0104

3 жыл бұрын

What if this is how ALL the gods start out? (In a human form?) In DnD Forgotten Realms this is the foundation of their "AVATAR TRILOGY".

@slowpie

3 жыл бұрын

me too. I just assumed he was "born" when computers really hit their peak in the 1980s, like when atari came out or whatever...which would make him the youngest god. (unless social media is its own god, newer than media?) I also assumed he was younger than media, but i guess not cuz wasnt she born in the 1930s during orson wells martian broadcast? So why was she able to treat him so badly in season 1?

@angryfirefly

3 жыл бұрын

@@slowpie I think because she was stronger than him. More worshipers offering more sacrifices.

We have to remember that Shadow was a conman before he met Wednesday and seemed to have enjoyed all that subterfuge. Obviously he had traits of his dad all along.

@trent_king

3 жыл бұрын

He was? I thought he was straight laced to honor his mother and Laura manipulated him into the casino heist bc he was really against it

@mikeaskme3530

3 жыл бұрын

@Hibbs4Prez, i dont think he was conman, i think he was a gambler before he met Laura, and that it was Luara who planned the Casino heist. I could be wrong.

I believe Techno boy went into that space because it’s weirdly a safe space for him. Somehow it makes him feel centered.. 🤔.. that’s my best guess

I don't get people that watch the show and say they don't like it. I really enjoy the show and I like that it doesn't follow the book exactly. Thank you for your review after each episode, it kind of completes the experience for me.

@oops993

3 жыл бұрын

It feels like it's dragging but the story itself is slow, maybe for tv they could have done better with the pacing so it doesnt feel that way. I wish I could like the show more, the story straying from the book isnt the problem. Some of the stuff that's going on feels redundant and so last season.

@kelvinmunene9595

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@ghostshadow9899

3 жыл бұрын

No one cares if it follows the book note by note! The problem is that the storytelling and the visuals are really bad. Season 1 was great Good visuals Good storytelling Good worldbuilding Good acting Good dialogs With the new showrunners No good visuals Bad storytelling Bad worldbuilding ( how can a goddess be kidnapped by humans) ? How can a goddess be prisoned by humans? I need explanation

For me this is by far the best episode since the season started.

I think the pain of loss Demeter was eluding to was the death or loss of a child or Baldur. Which is why Shadow is there as a reincarnation of Baldur to sway Demeter.

@StoryDive

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's a good theory.

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

Demeter's daughter Persephone was kidnapped by Hades, God of the underworld.

@dragonofthewest9186

3 жыл бұрын

@@mackenziedrake Yes but I am talking about the show's mythology which mirrors symbols and abstract concepts. Demeter comes to america by belief bu we don't know if Persephone came whit her. But somewhere along the way she meets Odin they get married and perhaps Demeter bares enough symbolic or abstract attributes to Frigg Odin's wife in the Norse myths that they conceive a child and that child could or could not have been Baldur or Presephone he or she dies they split up and shadow is born whit somekind of abstract connection to that child's attributes that he is their child reincarnated or as close as can be to sway Demeter.

@thebox7139

3 жыл бұрын

@@mackenziedrake Hades didn’t kidnap her though he was saving her from Demeter who wanted to turn her into a tree so that hades wouldn’t be able to marry her.

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebox7139 I was not aware of that part of the myth.

I like several scenes in this episode, mostly for the cinematography and lightings. The *heist* scene looks great. The way they lit McShane in the greenhouse talk between Shadow and Wednesday was phenomenal for me.

Max was another version of Wednesday or just another face. His mannerisms, body language, even what he said, seemed exactly like Ian/Wednesday. The cane was Gungnir, looked to have runes on the edge to me. What magician wears war medals? Plus the flask.

@Lippdinos

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, remembering that Wednesday is considered to be a master of disguises so he can be anyone he wants. Plus they seem to have the same height and build. Generally the only difference one can tell from one identity to another is reportedly his lost eye.

@coalscribe

3 жыл бұрын

How observant, I noticed the flask too but wrote it off since Max had both his eyes

@jamiecrucefix4078

3 жыл бұрын

great eye The Vin

@MyVin1234

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lippdinos Plus at the end of season 2 he was just sitting in a fine steak house with no "disguise" on while his face was plastered all over the news.

@MyVin1234

3 жыл бұрын

Re-watch the scene and just imagine the guy being Ian and you'll never see it another way.

My only complaint is that its to short!!!! I love your analysis and want more!!!

I'm a booker, so this EP just feels like back story that wasn't in the book itself. By the time Shadow gets to Lakeside, that is center stage for the story until near the very end. Laura becoming alive again is a serious deviation, so that will be rather interesting how that plays out. I wont lie though.. I'm watching this because I read the book, which was amazing.. the end is going to blow your mind . But if you started with the show, I can see how you might be ready to bail at this point. The original show runners handled the story really well, mixing in short animations, and "coming to America" shorts in the same way the book actually did. I thought it was an innovative way to adapt a book to the small screen. That's all gone now, which is a shame. I'm sticking with it until the end, and it would be nice if Starz allowed them to finish, even if it's an abbreviated ending.

@chimwemwekalea165

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one who thought the show is losing its magic.

@coop8549

3 жыл бұрын

@@chimwemwekalea165 hell no... it's a complete mess now

@JS-mu9qd

3 жыл бұрын

Havent read the books,but i think i will get them.The Show made me curious to read them.

I think the automaton is his origin. Coming back to its womb where he will be reborn. Idk. Lol

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

I think you're spot on.

@davdrabek3489

3 жыл бұрын

Good observation !

@ADOwens-px8xm

3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

She's missouri means.... They have to show her ..the show me state

I liked how in the end, Technical Boy tries to escape his present trauma by "cocooning" himself inside the Automaton, just like Ibis accuses Salim of doing to escape his own trauma. Both Tech and Salim are characters feeling out of their element (Tech is "not operating at 100%" and Salim is questioning his faith). I also liked how Laura and Salim' s conversation about Sweeney being dead happened to be at the very place where he died.

I think that the man at the start was technical boys first worshiper and tech boy was made in his image and their memories are somehow possibly by bilquis showing him his own fate.

you know that a chanel is good when you don't watch the show,but you never miss the KZread video. thank you for that 👏

This episode got me really interested in tech boy. Bilquis is growing on me more

@demettressw84

3 жыл бұрын

Me2.

@coalscribe

3 жыл бұрын

The portrayal of Bilquis’s evolution has been beautiful, from mystery and power to showing her vulnerability, the stigma and patriarchal bigots she came across, forcing her to develop a hard exterior, one even she forgot how to reach into. Then discovering her origin, very relatable for women, our history and role in the society. Globally we see women shedding the warrior phase and stepping into a cosmic nurturer, one who doesn’t need to fight to claim power but embodies it invincibly. Spiritual awakening sure is better with French Fries. :)

The only thing I can think of as far as the world fair scenes is that the “war” between the magician and new fangled technology” is another way to illustrate what is happening between the old gods and the new. Just another way to describe this ongoing struggle/battle. The automaton was limited at what it could do (glitchy)comparing that with Technical boy who is right now glitchy. Who will win the battle in the end - old gods- new gods - will have to wait and see.

I have no Easter eggs to reveal or theories to makes, but I just wanted to thank you for reviewing the series. AG is the only show I’m currently watching religiously and your review adds to my knowledge and excitement. 🙏

@samhank

3 жыл бұрын

Same

I think tech boy is learning that he's not a new god but an old one. A god of craft and ingenuity.

@ruthbennett7563

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been thinking along those lines, as well. However, having just seen episode 6, I’m thinking more along the lines of TB being one of Loki’s children who are destined to kill the gods/bring about Ragnarok, as he achieves some sort of singularity (that’s no spoiler, unless my particular strip of tin foil pans out...)

@Josh-rn1em

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't technology from when man made rock tools? So that would make technology old. But the new technology may have confused him. The gods tend to die and be reborn. So maybe his death and rebirth muddled his brain?

10:01 or Hades tempting Persephone, (Demeter's daughter) with pomegranate seeds.

@InTouchWithBertJ

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. In the biblical story people have been arguing that the Apple was actually a pommegranate as well. Which is also depicted like that in some artworks. So there is a match between that and the story of Persephone as well. Besides that, I'm not sure if we go to deep if we would interpret Demeter in relation to that story. Because since it is winter, her daughter would be with Hades at this point, which is the time when Demeter is sad an depressed and lets plantlife on earth wilt and wither away. But she doesnt really come across like that.

@bluemoonbargins

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but Demeter is in a mental hospital for "acting out" getting naked, feeling useless, which could be related to not only the overall decline of the old gods importance in our lives, but depression during her daughter's absence. IMO.

@antissocialblackcat2099

3 жыл бұрын

But we know how Hades and Persephone-s story end... They grow a strong bond, fall in love, and Demeter makes a deal with Hades, with other gods' approval, by staying with Persephone half of a year, while Hades takes the other half.

@Jon-pw2ik

3 жыл бұрын

I think Demeter could be an incarnation of Yggdrasil. Which is why Odin wants her for her ability to give him the knowledge as widsom he needs.juzt as in mythology where he sacrifices himself for the runestones or gives an eye for wisdom. She coule have originally been Yggdrasil or the worlds tree and then later in Greek transformes into Demeter the goddess of agriculture, harvest, sacred law (knowldege?) And fertility, so basically shit that grows( like the worlda tree) and knowldge/widsom which seems to be wst Odin wants from her

I look forward to your breakdown as much as the show itself.

@th2967

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! Great explanations! 👏

Man, I really miss Mr Nancy. Orlando Jones brought a depth to the show that I truly appreciated, and now the show feels somewhat empty. Just my opinion.

@chimwemwekalea165

3 жыл бұрын

Very empty man.

@pete5252255

3 жыл бұрын

yer he was good but he has totaly gone off the rails and really needs some help

@trent_king

3 жыл бұрын

Barely noticed he was gone🥱

@slowpie

3 жыл бұрын

i miss sweeney!

@lisettes.9598

3 жыл бұрын

@@slowpie i miss sweeny so so much!! My fav character. And man, that body on him...

I loved the scenes with the Orishas and Bilquis, I wonder if we will see the Automaton again in future episodes?, I would love to see the return of Mr Wood in his tree form and Mr Road in this season or season 4, on IMDB for next week's episode it says that we will finally see Danny Trejo as Mr World which I am so excited for, it also mentions Ms World, Tyr and Demeter will also be appearing, I hope they announce/ Renew Season 4 soon.

I think it is odd that during the dinner scene and strolling scene Shadow and Bilquis never address Technical Boy needing her to "un-do" whatever she did and the whole question of what that exactly was. Tech boy is insistent that he needs to find Bilquis and has to come with Shadow, then he weirds out and runs off, and not a word is mentioned about it?

@oops993

3 жыл бұрын

It annoyed me too but I guess it's because shadows reason for finding Bilquis was more personal and he didn't care about tech boy enough to bring up the glitching- and she didn't care either tbh because she doesn't want anything to do with the new gods.

@chenxiongxiong6778

3 жыл бұрын

Tech boy got glitched so bad that he ran. Shadow never want to help tech boy in the first place so... And bilquis doesn't care ofc. She's renewed and it's tech boy's fault for not being brave enough to ask her nicely this time since this new bilquis is more powerful and more rational.

@hawkdsl

3 жыл бұрын

@@malexosh The book never revels Shadow as anything other then a demigod. He has all the characteristics of Baldur, but is never named as such. And old Gods see new Gods quite easily.. Sometimes they employ their help to stay alive... which makes them servants to the New Gods. It's part of the neat idea's Neil had in the book.. How New God's and Old God's struggle together. Stay for the end.. you'll see.

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

Technical Boy lynched Shadow and abused Bilquis. They just don't care about him.

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

@@hawkdsl Shadow in the series is far more awake in his divinity than he is in the book. In the book and elsewhere, his conscious mind loses the details of his natural state.

So they kept "Salim" who in my opinion was pointless from the start but got rid of "Mr Anansi" who was pivotal.... This episode proved how lost they are with the Salim character...

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

Orlando Jones was fired from the show. I am pretty sure Salim will develop further this season. Like everyone else, he's been taking his trip through the Underworld to his own power/destiny and driving Mr Ibis nuts in the process. Poor Ibis is a storyteller, and the characters are bringing all the chaos and confusion of life into his quiet little mortuary in Cairo.

@killcat1971

3 жыл бұрын

It's an example of woke ideology in action, Orlando Jones wanted to push the show in directions the creators weren't happy with (at least that's the rumor), so they expanded Bilquest's role (both as a redention arc, as females can't be "evil" and to cover for his loss), but they lacked both Islamic and gay representation. Gotta tick those boxes.

@EloiseInParis

3 жыл бұрын

@@killcat1971 He didn't want to "push" anything. He was writing unaccredited. All those amazing speeches and moments from the Black characters were his writing. Neil Gaiman, actual creator aka the writer of the book loved what Orlando was doing with the character and his writing. Gaiman is very upset over the firing and vocalized he does not approve. The one who fired Orlando is the new showrunner, this mess we're watching now is his first season working on the show.

@killcat1971

3 жыл бұрын

@@EloiseInParis That's what I meant the shows "creator" and as I said it was the rumor mill .

@eshowoman

3 жыл бұрын

The Jinn was also fired, so Salem has very little point.

I think much of the episode reflects rebirth - Laura literally has been 'reborn' to life, Bilquis is 'reborn', literally emerging from the "waters of life" (as in the womb) where her attackers were suspended in the water, Technical Boy at the end returns to his own 'womb' of the hidden dark space under his first creation/version of himself. And Shadow is slowly discovering who he is now he knows he is, at least in part, a God. Demeter wasn't just goddess of agriculture, she had links to the underworld (represented by being in the care home?) reflecting that life is reborn from death (death shown via Ibis' services in Cario, Sweeney's ashes and his blood on the floor). I took a different understanding of Demeter's comments to Odin though: that it is HIS heart that grew cold and small as a result of loss, not hers, though she seems to share that grief. Perhaps they lost their child? She did react dramatically to learning that Shadow was Odin's son.

I was like why didnt Shadow mention he had dreams/visions about her being locked up, prompting him to go rescue her. Along with seeing her in visions/dreams of his past (gas station/convenience mart)

Technical Boy's glitch or whatever. Wasn't Bilquis, it's World/Wednesday. He's being used again, like the opening. Assume him in the box was a psych/ comfort thing.

just as Wednesday had a totem the automaton is technical boys people believe in it and he just took the form of the inventor

I love your analysis, by far the best channel for it! When I watch the new episode there is always your new vid on the 2nd screen waiting for me. :)

I was right that Odin was pulling another con. Shadow Moon is Baldr from Odin's side and the male Oshun (like worshiped by Cubans) from his mother's side.

@hawkdsl

3 жыл бұрын

Keep your good eye on Odin..

@fRaNKiEb0NEz.

3 жыл бұрын

@@hawkdsl you're right. Even though Odin looked sad when Demeter said that she grew cold because of losing Odin....he is still after her money. And my friend, who was telling me about the history of the Orishas, was right ; Bilquis is Yemaya, but on the path of Queen of Sheba. I'm still curious about Technical Boy....he still has that Automatron.

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

@@fRaNKiEb0NEz. He also wants her in his war.

@AnaisKarim

3 жыл бұрын

Shadow is Shango to Bilquis' Oya.

@mikeaskme3530

3 жыл бұрын

@frankiebonez, i got that as well, i honestly think Shadows Character is how you laid it out, but i also think the twist will be. Shadow turns out to be Shango god of thunder, from the Orishas.

These breakdowns are far superior then the other ones I have seen. Good work. Keep it up 👍🏽

Been waiting all day for this video !!!! THANKS 😊

@StoryDive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I hope people don't wait all Sunday because usually it takes me until Monday afternoon

I feel like Bilquis and Shadow are Lovers. I don't see a mother son relationship there. He was supposed to get answers from her so wtf happened? I feel like it was a huge let down.

@hawkdsl

3 жыл бұрын

Bilquis continuing story is off book like you wouldn't believe... but I like the actress... and I think her likeability is why her character is still around.

@orionsdiary2903

3 жыл бұрын

@@hawkdsl I feel the same way.

@doratonks07

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. He seems to have much more on screen chemistry with her, Cordelia ( even though that’s described as more of a sibling relationship than romantic), Laura, Zorya, and even technical boy (😂) than he does with his supposed love interest what’s her face.

@ThabangPhetla

3 жыл бұрын

Same here I was disappointed with how itunfolded especially after all the waiting the show put us through,only to get no true answers

@doratonks07

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThabangPhetla I really hope they’re not doing this to extend the story into a season 4. This season should end with the war. I really don’t need anything beyond that where they show Shadow “finding who he is” on his own. Although a lot of people on the show have hinted a want for another season, I think it would be unnecessary.

So it's Technical Boy once a human or he basically just another representation of technology & invention? 'cause even the greek had one too like "Hephaestus."

This channel is really incredible. Watching it after every episode gives me so much more insight and so much more history. It makes watching the show so much more enjoyable.

Moforibale it’s a ritual greeting in where the person lay down or bow their head to the Orishas

@StoryDive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I was wondering.

Great Analysis!!!

At the time of The World Fair Techno Boy was just starting his automation but when the next world war occurred techno was solicited to aid in battle, at that point he became God-like and immortal the consequence however was the scarring memories of war. Techno is sensing the impending battle of the new and old gods and he fled to his earliest state and assumed a fetal position because he's not built for war

Maximilian reminded me of Loki

Was waiting for your video!

So Technical boy is technically part of the Old Gods? I think he will switch sides.

@Apryll.

3 жыл бұрын

The old Gods where here before the written language. I think hes too self serving to switch sides

@bluemoonbargins

3 жыл бұрын

I had wondered about switching sides myself, couldn't think how that would happen but after reading some of the other comments, now I'm thinking about it even more

I think Bilquis is Oya. In season 1 she was called the Storm Queen. Oya controls storms, hurricanes, etc.

@celestebamoree368

3 жыл бұрын

Very true And oya has a river in yoruba west Africa

@EnnoiasTruth

3 жыл бұрын

aye is oya just another name for her bilquis is oshun, the original incarnation thats why she mainly communicates with her, and remember back in season 2 when mr.world tried to recruit her for the war and he was saying how her powers of love and seduction could be a great asset in war and she refused.

@EloiseInParis

3 жыл бұрын

@@EnnoiasTruth The Goddess who helped her awaken is Oshun, so Bilquis is not her.

@AnaisKarim

3 жыл бұрын

@@EloiseInParis Agreed. I have thought Bilquis was Oya from Season 1 - Storm Queen. I wrote a bit about it during Season 1, so I need to go review my notes. Oya's colors are purple and burgundy. When Bilquis goes to the museum to see the statue of the Queen of Sheba she is wearing burgundy. She also wears burgundy when she arrives at the funeral home in Cairo and purple in front of the coffins.

Do you think Wednesday's new assistant is one of his children aka Shadow's sister

I am so hyped what more we are going to see in upcoming episodes 😱

I thaught it was very enjoyable, though the tech boy stuff is a bit confusing I'm guessing hes "starting" to remember hes past selves,something from last season implies that when he "upgrades" he becomes a different person,so the glitch is hes past selves comi g together. I love Ricky and Ian on screen,everytime it's always fun,and also the actress that plays demeter is very good as a wise,nurturing goddess(sorry dont remember her name ),also the con was very good in love that 70's heist vibe ,all in all great episode in my opinion

You know, I can't help but feel that there is going to be some kind of significance to the unique hand poses we see in the graphic. Maybe not for everyone but perhaps one or two.

Salim: "You're either very generous, or you REALLY want me to leave" Mr. Ibis: "Yes" 😂🤣😂

This episode confirmed for me that I have absolutely NO idea what they're trying to do with this show anymore-- and I feel like neither does the creative team behind this show. There's nothing wrong with changing elements of a book to fit the Television or Film medium, it happens, these are different ways to tell stories; but I do feel like if you're going to do an adaptation the heart and soul of the story should remain, even if you must change plot or characters. This feels like an *extremely* loose adaptation now. This is not american gods, it's not the book, it's not the graphic novel, and it's not even the show. I have no idea what this is anymore. Season 1 was pretty phenomenal in its adaptation and where/how it deviated. Season 2, I honestly really enjoyed, it differed in plot from the book, but it captured the soul, themes, and spirit of the book, bringing in new cultures, characters, and stories that felt like how the book would have handled them (the Mad Sweeney, Thor, and Civil Rights episodes are in my top episodes of the whole series!!) This season feels like... I honestly don't even know. It's not narratively doing the book, it's not thematically doing the book, it's not even anything like the first two seasons. It's just characters and places that happened to be named the same running around doing eff all for 10 episodes while Starz makes its money. The book is a slow burn, the last two season were slow burns--- this season isn't even a slow burn, it's a soup that got put a stove that someone forgot to turn on and is now growing bacteria. (Which only makes me more pissed that they fired Nancy. They said it's because 'he didn't appear in the book" ... like, buddy neither does Oshun... they said they wanted to stay more true to the book this season... it is very clear now that they was a lie. I am so disappointed) I'm going to see this show to it's end, because I love Neil Gaiman, I love mythology, I love exploring history and cultures, and narratives about faith, the spirit, and self-discovery, on a societal level and a personal one. Hopefully this show returns to those themes. As of now, it feels like a high school-grade fanfic, hitting topics that are tumblr blog surface level... at best... Such a shame, for something that was so wonderful, engaging, and interesting.

Although many gods existed for centuries, as political control of Egypt shifted from region to region, these gods were modified or combined with other gods. Often deities with similar traits were combined, as with Hathor and the cow-goddess Bat. However, gods did not always match up perfectly, and new myths were created to explain the new facet of a deity's nature. This explains how a single god or goddess might have what appear to have several unique personalities or backgrounds

I really liked this episode. The heist was really fun, the development of Laura's story is interesting to me, and I am really getting invested in Bilquis. I am feeling a but thrown off by the downward spiral of Technical Boy, because I like the character and actor and it is hard to watch him circle the drain.

I never read the books but so far this Series has little to no action is more just talking and somewhat mesmerizing effects and to be honest Game of Thrones had luck talking but at least there was action sometimes and clean epic scenes of battle

@pandawillishelthostage2985

3 жыл бұрын

That's good

I think Bilquis is related to Shadows Mom

@trent_king

3 жыл бұрын

How? Shadow's mom wasn't immortal and Bilquis is millennias old

@stickmanbw

3 жыл бұрын

@@trent_king blood line?

@Dmbm789

3 жыл бұрын

@@trent_king the Yoruba slaves brought over to America might be the ancestors set free in the earlier episodes by the Orisha gods

@Dmbm789

3 жыл бұрын

And I’ve never seen a detailed scene explaining how his mother died if I’m not mistaken for all we know she might be a god somewhere chilling too scared to tell Shadow his true heritage but I’m reaching now 🤣

The portrayal of Bilquis’s evolution has been beautiful, from mystery and power to showing her vulnerability, the stigma and patriarchal bigots she came across- the disco age shown few episodes back, forcing her to develop a hard exterior and do what she needed to do for survival, she forgot how to reach into her truth as she built a hard exteriors while living as a homeless woman watching her lineage crumble on a tv. Then discovering her origin, very relatable for women, our history and role in the society. Globally we see women shedding the warrior phase and stepping into a cosmic nurturer, one who doesn’t need to fight to claim power but embodies it invincibly. Spiritual awakening sure is better with French Fries. :)

After they changed writer who acted as Anansi too.. This s3ason has not been at par with earlier. I hope you noticed it too..

At 3:14 the earrings worn by the actress is a symbol called a Sankofa from Ghana. When Questlove turned 50 Tariq gave him a beautiful sankofa made from rubies because it looks like question marks and a heart so quest-love. It was very moving you can see it on jimmy fallon.

There is one piece you did miss one thing, in the background of the heist scene we see two paintings. The Oath of The Horatti and the last words of Marcus Aurelius. I am curious what they might mean for the series.

I assume Salim is going to find his faith again but it's going to have to do with the homosexual God we saw in the trailer(the butterfly one) and we also saw Salim in some kind of club type setting as well. We know Laura and Salim part ways at some point and Laura travels with the new leprechaun so Salim probably stays at whatever the club type place is.

Hathor was one of the most important and complex goddesses of ancient Egypt. A mother goddess who created and maintained all life on earth, Hathor was also worshiped as goddess of the sky, fertility, music, and dance and as the symbolic mother of the pharaoh, or rule.

I think the automan might not be responsible for his glitchy state but acts as a place where he feels like he has control when he feels his life's chaotic.

Shadow moon is "DONAR", this is what broke Odin and why he started this war. When Demeter said "the pain of Loss" it did not refer to her but rather Odin. We all want to think he is Shadowmoon is Baldur but he isnt, he is Donar.

@hawkdsl

3 жыл бұрын

Nope.. stay to the end of the show, or read the book if it gets canceled. The ending is great. You wont see it coming.

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you about her loss being the relationship and the loss of the future she hoped to have with him. He is her Zeus, and she is one of his many mates/tools across the American pantheon.

@Apryll.

3 жыл бұрын

Donar killed himself and Shadow is just Shadow, he wasnt brought here he was born.

@jacobjackson5062

3 жыл бұрын

I dont know guys, they change and added some things from the novel to the show. It was never, 100% cleared in the Novel that shadowmoon was Balder, even in the Monarch of the glenn.

I thought this season was supposed to be closer to the book, but Laura is alive now. If I remember from the book, Laura stays dead and in the end rips her chest open and offers the coin to Shadow, causing her to die once and for all. I could be wrong though, it’s been a while since I’ve read the book.

Sometimes with Tech you have to go back to the beginning for the redesign. I am guessing tech boy is doing just that going back to the beginning so that he can sort out who he is and what he can do differently.

I don’t think that Sweeney’s blood was contained in the vial of gris-gris. It is when the cemetery caretaker was cleaning up Sweeney’s blood and Laura’s ashes that he stepped on the vial which cracked and then Sweeney’s blood came into contact with the gris-gris and Laura left Purgatory. (At least that’s the way I saw it unfold.)

@CorpseBride64

3 жыл бұрын

No duh.

@Josh-rn1em

3 жыл бұрын

That makes sense. You're probably right

Yeah with Maximilian I was thinking along the lines he might be Loki

The magician draws his power through belief in his “power.” TB operates through the reality of his creation. The kid kills the belief when he spoils the egg trick. The magician does the same to TB when he smashed the glass. It is both a reflection of how the old and new gods draw power from their worshippers and a small precursor of the upcoming conflict.

I believe the automaton might be technical boys first version. So he thinks that being around his first form might get him back to his usual self

Where I'm confused and possibly over thinking ..... Wouldn't technical boy have been birthed in the industrial age - steam engine.... Ada love lace the first coder, Tessa and Edison.... I guess he would have been an infant ..... That would have made better sense to me as an origin story. I also appreciate the metaphor of magic of technology and the meta of magic vs tech and how our gods of magic lost followers after tech became more and more accessible ....

I forgot to add this, but I don't know if you mentioned this, but you think maybe the reason shadow didn't want to use guns is that he instinctively knew what Bliquis was gonna do considering that thing she did to him at the end of season 2 anointing him with the blood. The actress playing Bliquis said that her and shadow have some type of connection to each other. Plus the whole thing with his dreams about the orishas. I dont think it's a mother and son thing. I think he was comparing him trying to save Bliquis to what he couldn't do for Laura, and his mom. Even tho I thought after watching rewatching both s1 & 2 I saw a resemblance. Hopefully you understand what I typed lol

The "Missouri" comment from that lady confused me, and then my husband told me "it's the 'show me' state." Also, wouldn't Technical boy be super old? Wouldn't things like the invention of the wheel, out of place artifacts like the Antikythera mechanism, the building of ancient temples. etc. count as technology? It trips me out that he counts as a "new god" when tech could be older than all the other gods. There was recently a story about a 17,000-18,000 year old conch shell that had been fashioned into an instrument being found, wouldn't that count as tech? On that note, it would be really cool to see a music character aligned with him, tech and music go hand in hand. I love this show dude. I do miss a ton of the old characters, but I'm still digging the show as it stands. Edit: Oh! Does anyone think that Demeter could be Wednesday's son "Donar the Great's" mother? There seems to be some hurt that runs deep, like deeper than dealing With Wednesdays usual B.S

I'm still hoping Sweeney will come back somehow. My favorite part this week was seeing Bilquis and Shadow together. She seems more humble after what she went through. They appeared very comfortable with each other.

Demeter says the pain of loss makes you grow cold..she would know all about that especially regarding her daughter Persephone and hades..the months that she would be alway caused Demeter to be very sad and cold which mythology says is the reason for the seasons fall and winter

i think tech boy was one of the original ¨gods¨since artifact 1 seems to be that obsidian spear point. So he is a very Old god but constantly reborns or rebrands unlike others, thats why he is always young.

Maximilian is the god of deceit.

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

Loki or Odin?

@malalford

3 жыл бұрын

Nah. he's just your typical Chicagoan. SOUTHSIDE!!

@demettressw84

3 жыл бұрын

@@malalford 🤣

@Apryll.

3 жыл бұрын

@@mackenziedrake Loki was in season 1 and Odin is Wednesday

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

@@Apryll. Yes, and both are known for their trickery and violence.

I believe that Technical Boy hides inside the writing invention because in a way that was either what brought him into the divine state or that potentializes it, hence he is approaching it to absorb some desperately needed power from this talisman to bring him back some of his rapidly dwindling power. As far as Wednesday and the bar blowing up, I gave my opinion under last episodes forum so I won't repeat it here, but I feel it's worth reading if you find the time. As far as Shadow, I think that he will show to in fact hold the identity of Baldur. I am curious to know why shadow refused to use the firearms that TB brought in the trunk of his car but I think it has to do with him not wanting anything to do with technology, showing that he has one more thing in common with his father and the older gods.

would you like to know the name of the song that plays when Bilquis floods the room? I can't find Shazam ... can you tell me?

Doesn't the 37 reference in this episode correlate back to the Norse numbers 3 & 7, which Wednesday used by multiplying them to call Shadow earlier in the season during episode 4 (maybe 3). Just another reference to these numbers this season that could mean they're going to be significant this season, maybe?

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

There may also be a con game with that name as well, as it is a classic, but the permutations of 3, 7, 21, 37, and possibly 73 (yet to be seen) may well keep coming up.

This slow is really really losing me. Honestly, I look forward to your breakdowns and videos about the episode more than I do the actually show. It’s kinda sad. Loyal fans being let down constantly

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

Books are not shows, and vice versa.

@gfunk5345

3 жыл бұрын

@@mackenziedrake and that’s a fact

@mackenziedrake

3 жыл бұрын

@@gfunk5345 I remind myself of that all the time in adaptations. The two forms have to stand on their own merits, IMO. Personally, I like the new material and how it gives the characters depth that isn't in the book.

If Mr. World is Loki in this version -- and the season finale implies as much -- I'd like to think that the Magician was Loki in disguise; breaking Technical Boy's spirit so that he could later manipulate him with another persona.

what is the song that sounds when bilquis comes out of the water?

Sometimes I am wondering if Cordelia is Persephone. If you want to get Demeter out.. you don't need Odin. You need her daughter.

@thegodofimagination

3 жыл бұрын

Is the show taking place in spring or summer

To be honest when I first saw it season 1 I honestly was all for the new Gods because the old gods are bloodthirsty who will trick and deceive Humanity just to stay alive and a new modern world and Wednesday is a jerk who would like Zeus himself like to trick and tempt people to join his side to go back to the old days of blood and death of the new gods who I'm not as wholesome as the old ones at least the New Gods are working with Humanity!

@hawkdsl

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good observation.. I can't say anything because it would spoil the story... but keep your words, "Trick and deceive" in your mind as the story goes along.

@JS-mu9qd

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Still the new gods on the other hand want control over the humans it seems . But good point

I personally liked this episode. We got more back story of tech boy and we saw the Oshuns. There was a good storyline for both Laura and Salim. I want to see Shadow doing more heists for the old gods and finding out his god like powers.

I think Technical Boy went back to the automaton just as a place of comfort. Experiencing war, and his own death, is obviously freaking him out. The automaton is where he had his breakdown the first time. Maybe that's just his special place. I think Odin did to Demeter before what he's doing now, pretending to love her to get something he wants. That's why she eludes to how his actions shriveled her heart. Being used is a terrible feeling. She probably still loves him so will eventually be persuaded only to be let down again.

Too me it seems like it's 3 sets of gods. True gods like the orishas, ester, and demeter, then the old gods like odin, bliquess (ppl who became gods ) and then the new gods like mr. World, media and tech boy. The new gods seems like technology coming to life

I was thinking that Maximilian might be a leprechaun it at te very least a trickster of some sort.

Can someone please tell me whats that music when Bilquis sets free?? Cant even find it on Tunefind...

You didn-t comment on the paintings in the Hall of the hotel, when Shadow and Cordelia are pulling the 37, and he passes her the briefcase. I couldnt find it but I think it was meaningful as easter egg concerns.

Hey man, do you know how is the name of the song of the Season 3, episode 5 minute 16:53? I can't found it. Thank you

These last 2 episodes have been missing alot of Easter Eggs that other episode had like Map scenes of america, The Ravens or peacock in previous episodes.