We heard about the Kray Twins for all of 2 mins in a video we did well over a year ago. However, we learned virtually NOTHING! So, who were they? Were they really bad criminals? What made them that way? So many questions and all answered here! The United Kingdom's most notorious gangsters! Learn with us if you don't know and if you do, we bet there are things in here that will surprise you too. Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support!

@waynegray2284

8 ай бұрын

The Kray twins greatly valued their image and cultivated the media by inviting journalists to take photographs of them with other celebrities at nightclubs or in donating to charity.

@waynegray2284

8 ай бұрын

Yes you are right they add dealings with people in new York and somewhere else in USA

@MCH957

8 ай бұрын

The tv interview is on KZread. They were aquited of a trial at the time.

@space1999

8 ай бұрын

The east end is super trendy now and gentrified ... high end restaurants and quirky shops and apartments springing up from wonderful victorian buildings that were previously used for less high end purposes....

@sharroncoppage704

8 ай бұрын

Jack the hat was not murdered in The Carpenters Arms, he was murdered by Reggie at a private party at a flat in Central London, this is why I am not keen on Simons video as he does give incorrect information on occasions Ronnie Kray eventually was transferred to Broadmoor a secure hospital for the criminally insane where he died in 1995 Reggie was released from prison due to being diagnosed with terminal cancer and died in 2000

Have you ever been both terrified and relieved at the same time? My dad ran a small printing company in north London in the 1960s. One day, a disreputable looking guy came in with some printing to be done. Dad did it promptly, and when the guy came back to pick it up, he said: "This looks great. Reggie will be very pleased." Dad didn't sleep for a week.

2 really good films about them. "The krays" starring the kemp brothers who were in spandau ballet. And "Legend "starring Tom Hardy. Both worth a watch. Also mad frankie fraser appears in many films usually playing a gangster

@DMGamanda

8 ай бұрын

That film with the kemps was so good. I dont think til then anyone til then had taken them seriously as actors til then. 😊

@DMGamanda

8 ай бұрын

Gosh i said ‘til then’ a lot in my comment 😜

@williamlarge69

8 ай бұрын

Legend is the best one tom hardy is one hell of an actor

@Dcs.234

8 ай бұрын

@@DMGamanda😂😂😂

@abbafan1972

8 ай бұрын

I was going to suggest “The Krays” from 1990 with Martin & Gary Kemp.

I live in Whitstable, a seaside town some 50 miles east of London. Charlie Kray lived here in an area called Chestfield but was jailed for 12 years in 1997 at the age of 70 for cocaine smuggling worth £39million. He always vehemently denied it, saying it was a sting operation organised by the metropolitan police, getting their own back on the Krays name. He died a few years into his sentence.The twins' cousins here have also run some nice pubs around the town and close by. My dad was an Eastender. Everyone feared the twins as they were violent and unpredictable. However, the violence was invariably directed towards their gang competitors. Many respectable people still maintain that the eastend streetsof London were far safer in those days because small time criminals and thugs were too afraid to operate on the Krays turf.

Politicians consorting with criminals? Who'd have thought it? These days, the criminals ARE the politicians. But that's a different story.

Theres a couple of Kray Twins movies. One called "Legend" with Tom Hardy and one from the 90s called "The Krays"

Hi ladies, believe me, this video only scraped the surface of what they were all about. They were also very much mummies boys, also as was mentioned in the video, Ronnie Kray (the paranoid schizophrenic) was openly gay, and Reggie was presumed straight as he married a woman, but his wife committed suicide with an overdose, and it was rumoured that their marriage had not been consummated ,and that Reggie had bouts of bad temper, so was she pushed over the edge and couldn't see a way out other than taking her own life! and it was later revealed that Reggie was bisexual, but when the kray's were teenagers, they kept their sexuality a secret, especially from other gangs, and it was later revealed that they had a sexual relationship with each other to ensure their sexuality was kept a secret, this gives a telling insight into their close connection. Also Ronnie ended up in Broadmoor, a high security hospital for the criminally insane, where he spent the last 14 years of his life, and whilst he was in there he met other like minded people, and one of them was Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire ripper) apparently Ronnie Kray tried hitting on him which didn't go down well with sutcliffe.

@littlemy1773

8 ай бұрын

They were also (Ronnie more so from what I’ve read) in to young lads and used to provide them for male politicians 🫤

@gailcrook2687

8 ай бұрын

After hitting Ronnie one of his supporters took Sutcliffe ' s eye out

@seeyouanon2931

8 ай бұрын

Apparently there was a scuffle between Ian Kay (the satanic worshipper Woolworths killer of south west London) and Sutcliffe ,whereby sutcliffe was stabbed in both eyes by what was believed to be a fibre-tip pen. Kay had apparently been showing signs of violence in the weeks prior to the attack. They had other patients who had been stabbed with the pens. Sutcliffe was nearly garrotted by another inmate Paul Wilson, but was saved by another inmate, Kenneth Erskine (the stockwell strangler) but it was whilst sutcliffe was in parkhurst prison in 1983 when the Glaswegian hardman Jimmy Costello was an inmate also, and Costello slashed sutcliffe across the face leaving 2 permanent scars and 30 stitches, Jimmy Costello was ordered by Ronnie Kray to do the hit.

Hey Ladies You're right the East End of London was mainly for the working class 50 years ago...now a lot of it is considered hip, trendy and with very expensive housing!

@susangarvey9415

8 ай бұрын

It's still rough, many areas of London are, I come from South of the river, when we venture back to London we often comment that you can't dress up a turd.

@richt71

8 ай бұрын

@@susangarvey9415 You might be right Susan. I've only lived in greater London for the last 12 years but have seen places like Shoreditch, Hackney, Hoxton and Dalston be taken over by high rise, high price apartment buildings!

@user-fq8rs7rz3i

5 ай бұрын

@@susangarvey9415 I’m from south London and couldn’t agree more. It’s never been considered safe and it’s a lot worse now. Thankfully I no longer live there.

The photos shown were by David Bailey a very talented photographer and director. A lot of the pictures he took can be found online and includes the Krays along with his fashion shoots. So famous was he, anyone who had an expensive camera or took a long time set up a photo got the question "Who do you think you are, David Bailey?" .

@Claudiaxyz

8 ай бұрын

The photos went some way to make their reputations. The reality was unglamorous.

@SkepticalSteve01

8 ай бұрын

The young photographer/hero played by David Hemmings in Michaelangelo Antonioni’s 1966 film _Blow Up_ was allegedly based on a combination of real-life photographers David Bailey and Terence Donovan. In the 1960s Britain went through something of a social revolution, with scandals such as the Profumo Affair (in which the then-defence minister was revealed to be sleeping with a beautiful young prostitute who was simultaneously servicing a Soviet Embassy intelligence agent) showing the unreliability and incompetence of Britain’s then upper-class government, compared to the fresher, more youthful energy of the lower-class. Even gangsters like the Kray twins seemed preferable, especially when snapped by a talented young guy like David Bailey. Bailey and Donovan were themselves products of non-aristocratic, untraditional British society, trying to shake off the constraints of the first half of the 20th century. I recommend _Blow Up_ to you for a snapshot of the aspirations of “Swinging London” in the 1960s, and its attempts to get to grips with modern life.

@mariahoulihan9483

2 ай бұрын

just like when anyone used to drive a bit too fast, 'who do you think you are? Stirling Moss?'

Tom Hardy played both of the Kray Twins in the 2015 film titled "Legend" ... Great performance, Good film, you should check it out.

The Monty Python sketch about Doug and Dinsdale Piranha is the best description of them.

@jamesdignanmusic2765

8 ай бұрын

They were also an inspiration for Alexei Sayle's Moss brothers in "Didn't You Kill My Brother?"

There was a film about the Kray twins with Kray twins played by Martin Kemp playing Reggie Kray and Gary Kemp playing Ronald Kray . The Kemp Brothers were also pop stars . Their group was spandau ballet

My dad was from the East End and regularly drank with them , they were glorified and feared in equal measure. I live in Essex and my parents moved from the East End to Southend on Sea ( in Essex ) in the early 50s . There is a pub in Southend on the sea front called the Cornocopia, it hasn’t changed from the 50s and is still the same today , it’s a tiny pub but the Krays were regulars . They were both crazy and scary you didn’t mess with them . I’m 65 and still have an Eastend accent . As a side note I would love you two to do a Cockney rhyming slang video . That would be hilarious, Up The Apples and Pears . Love you both xxx

Another great video. I have known about the Krays for years. I have a book called "The Profession of Violence" by John Pearson which is about their life story, though when it was written I think they were both alive. One story about the Kray's was they were trying to expire their Empire outside of London and came to Manchester where they were met by a prominent Manchester police officer. One story was he was waiting for them at the Midland Hotel in the lobby and handed them a train timetable with the train times back to London another story was he was waiting for them on the station platform and put them back on the train as soon as they arrived. Whether either story was true I don't really know xx

Natasha & Debbie, in the town where I live in Suffolk, the Krays were evacuated as children during WW2, they were lodged with a Methodist minister and his wife who found it difficult to control them. After the war, the rwins donated some boxing equipment to towns youth club. They also bought a large house for their Mother in a nearby village! As far as I know, the Krays didn't cause any trouble locally

@carolclark8788

8 ай бұрын

The Krays had a holiday home in our village in Hampshire, they were often seen in our local pubs. An ex neighbour of ours lives there now, he says he's afraid to dig up the outside loo, who knows what he might find!

@suffolkraider

8 ай бұрын

I heard that too on a program plus there's supposed to have been a Kray hideout near Acle in Norfolk where the gardening doesn't get dug too deep.

When the brothers were doing their national service and beat up their Sergeant and went home to see their mother, their barracks were in a part of the Tower of London. As a result once they were arrested their initial detention was actually in the cells in the Tower before being transferred to a military prison, making them some of the last prisoners to be held in the Tower of London before it was downgraded from a prison to a combined museum and a Royal palace.

@malcolmsleight9334

8 ай бұрын

They are recognized as the last "official" prisoners of the Tower.

When I worked in Stratford, East London, I used to drink in The Carpenters (21:29 mins in). A small, not very significant looking pub, with no hint of its past on show. The locals still know all about the association with the Krays though.

@tommyxbones5126

8 ай бұрын

Carpenters arms in Stratford I remember in the 80's it was 'grab a granny' night every Friday - good laugh in there.

The long Good Friday is an excellent film worth seeing,it has been claimed it is based on a true story. The key actors are Bob Hoskins and Helen Mirren.

The Kemp brothers film "The Krays" (1990) feels dated now, but Tom Hardy playing both twins in "Legend" (2015) is a pretty incredible performance. As suggested by others here though, both films are defo worth a watch as they show different aspects of the story.

@Turn1t0ff

8 ай бұрын

Tom Hardy is on another level. His portrayal of Bronson was intense.

@sophiejones8813

8 ай бұрын

Tom Hardy was brilliant as Charles Bronson but cringingly bad in Legend , sounded like Alan Partridge !

@samsprrr3548

7 ай бұрын

I prefer the kemps in the 1990 version.

In 1966 Ronnie shot a man in the Blind Beggar pub in Whitechapel. Two years later (Autumn of 1968) I started secondary school (age 11) just over a mile from the site of this shooting. I travelled in from about 6 miles away - right on the edge of London - and at the time I knew nothing about the Krays. The Krays were both arrested in May 1968 - and in March 1969 both were sentenced to life imprisonment. I'm sure my father was aware how close my school was to the Krays area of influence but he never said anything to me.

The famous photograph of the twins was taken by a very well known photographer named David Bailey, think Austin Powers of a swinging 60s London. All famous people of the time went to Bailey for the publicity portraits.

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

The Kray Twins had one of their portrait photographs taken by the photographer David Bailey ( who came to prominence during the 1960s). Bailey also took the wedding photos of Reggie and his first wife , Frances Shea ( who later died of a drug overdose).

Great video. In the 1960s, the Krays walked into a bar my parents were drinking in. The packed bar descended into total silence. The fear was palpable. They had one drink and left, but spread total terror into everyone present in those few moments.

@ODHarding

8 ай бұрын

I was a holding manager a few years back and on my first day I was informed by my area manager that if a certain person came it all the customers would leave, he would sit at the bar and I should give him what ever he wanted on the house, then close after he left as no one would come back for the rest of the day. I was like could have told be that before i agreed. still was there for a month and he never came in.

great reaction Natasha and Debbie, the actress Dame Barbara Windsor had an amazing life and well worth a look at

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@pollyparrot9447

8 ай бұрын

She seemed like a lovely lady and worked regularly right to the end of her life. One of her last roles was the voice of Mallymkun the Dormouse in Tim Burton's Alice movies.

The Krays used to frequent a famous cafe in London called "E Pellicci". Its been there over 100 years ran by an eccentric Italian family. Best place in London for a proper full English breakfast. When Reggie was in jail, he wished he could have had it one last time for his last meal

@stewedfishproductions7959

8 ай бұрын

I had a Full English there, only yesterday (Saturday); Great 'bubble', black pudding and, the 'fried bread' is PERFECTION (although I only have it occasionally, as a 'treat', otherwise it would be 'fat' overload). The same reason I ordered poached eggs to balance fat intake - LOL!). Whenever visitors come to stay, Pellicci's is usually a 'no-brainer' for breakfast prior to a sight-seeing day of London... and the Oyster Card is your friend. 😎👍🇬🇧

The killing of Jack The Hat Mcvitie was only one of three instances in the history of British Law were someone has been found guilty of Murder without a Body being found. what it didn't tell you in the video is that the rest of The London Underworld were getting so tired of their behaviour, they had gotten too big for their Boots and were seen as a pair of loose Cannons. The heads of a number of other gangs got together, mainly The Richardson gang who were from across the other side of The River Thames and a joint decision was taken to remove them from the scene, so to speak. It was only the fact that they got sent to prison that saved their lives. The filmed interview with other members of the various gangs is here on YT. I think it was done by Fred Dineage.

I watched a drama years ago - sorry forgot the title of it but was mainly about Reggie’s wife Fran, it showed her growing concerns and her depression of her husband’s violent behaviour; she had a good upbringing, her parents worried about her and rightly so as she sadly killed herself and Reggie organised a grand funeral for his wife and was devastated by her death. She was very beautiful and dressed wonderfully and seemed a nice kind lady.

I had not heard of the Kray Twins before, so I learnt a lot from watching this video. Thanks so much for all your time, thought and energy that goes into making these reaction videos. Love to you both ❤❤

I stumbled on your channel and find you ladies very entertaining, Natasha reminds me so much of my sister and her personality and sense of humor are so refreshing while learning my fav subject history

The Krays remain popular to this day. People with twins will sometimes call them Ronnie and Reggie but by far, the most popular is naming dogs Ronnie and Reggie! Thank you for this small snapshot into the lives of our most infamous gangsters.

@cheryltotheg2880

8 ай бұрын

Which is quite weird as they did some nasty stuff 😂

@nicolad8822

8 ай бұрын

Those people would be common as muck idiots.

@matt01506

8 ай бұрын

​​@@cheryltotheg2880 Very true but if I had to choose the lesser of two evils give me the krays Anyday over the scum we have today that make no distinction between attacking another criminal and attacking women, children, babies and the elderly !

@faithpearlgenied-a5517

8 ай бұрын

​​@@matt01506I sort of get what you're saying but attacking women and children IS NOT A NEW THING. Men have been raping and murdering children and women throughout history. In fact it's even less common nowadays. Not sure why people always have the misconception that the time they're living in is always the most violent.

The photo of them staring down the camera is by 60s star photographer David Bsiley. He's who Austin Powers is based on, when he's taking photos at the start of the film. The tv interview was them as owners of clubs celebrities hung out at. Both films, The Krays (Gary and Martin Kemp) and Legend (Tom Hardy) give entertaining and only slightly embellished accounts of the twins.

My mum knew the Krays. Her parents owned a roadside truck stop which late became a Little Chef on the London Ringroad... not sure what it is these days... probably a Costa Coffee. The Twins often came in for tea and a cooked breakfast with some of their boys and would call my mum "Little T". She also knew actors Barbara Windsor, David Essex and Adam Faith as they would also stop at the truck stop on their way in and out of London. My mum says they were always polite, never swore while talking to her or her parents, always said "please" and "thank you" and would always pay extra for their breakfasts and cuppas, regardless of the actual price.

Very informative, i really enjoyed it this, thankyou 🙂

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for watching ❤️

"They nailed my head to the floor!" - Vince Snetterton-Lewis. (ref - Monty Python, The Piranha Brothers sketch)

@geoffpoole483

8 ай бұрын

Well, you had transgressed the unwritten law.

@jamesdignanmusic2765

8 ай бұрын

"He was a cruel man, but fair."

Ronnie's funeral procession went past my flat on the way to the cemetery, full on Eastend funeral with horse drawn carriage. Surprisingly, to me, well attended. Although a large part of the old East End still saw them as sort of 'folk heroes' when they died. Only went after their own, didn't hurt civilians etc. I doubt they'd recognise much of their 'manor' now, most of it's been gentrified. I mean they built the Olympic Stadium car park on my first place in East London. The Docklands would be unrecognisable to them now, although somewhat ironically a bunch of that was financed through a huge robbery, check out the Brinks Mat gold theft,

@suffolkraider

8 ай бұрын

I agree parts of London are unrecognisable now. I was on a bus with a mate of mine a few years back, upstairs as you do. I kept looking and where you see trendy flats etc I was saying "OOO that was a dry goods warehouse... that's the cold store I used to go to" Many memories

Legend has it that a victim of the Kray twins body was disposed off and remains to this day encased in concrete in the Bow flyover in East London. The flyover was built in the mid 1960s and opened in 1967.

The picture of them that you thought was professionally taken most certainly was. It was taken by the world famous and iconic 60s fashion Photographer David Bailey CBE. At the time they were the darlings of the rich and famous because of the clubs and at the time it was seen as cool to be associated with them, hence the TV appearance.

Ronnie's favourite word from childhood was crocodile. I have no idea why I always remembered that fact. They also broke frank Mitchell , the mad axeman out of prison

I learnt something as I have never heard of them. Thank you for enlightening me 👍

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching Pauline!!

Natasha & Debbie I am British and also live in London where I was born 49 years ago. My advice to you is to forget watching the second movie about the Kray twins starring Tom Hardy; instead watch the first movie about the Krays titled 'The Krays' starring Gary and Martin Kemp; in this movie the Krays were portrayed and played by real life brothers Gary and Martin Kemp who started out as British pop stars in the early 80's.

@paulguise698

8 ай бұрын

Spandau Ballet

fun fact, i was born 11 days before Ronnie died in a hospital directly across the road from prison where he was, Parkhurst prison on the Isle of Wight. the Hospital is called St Marys

That was a great reaction video girlies. Living near by we grew up knowing all about the Kray twins. If you get a chance watch the film with the Kemp brothers playing the Krays or Tom Hardy who plays both parts two very good parts. If I remember correctly they were locked up in the Tower of London being the last prisoners to be there. Well done girlies another great video. ❤

Really enjoying this video 😊

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

It's the first ever you tube video that I had to stop and rewind within 20 seconds because I was laughing so hard 😂😂😂😂

The movie Sparrows Can't Sing which starred Barbara Windsor. The nightclub scene was filmed at the club owned by the Kray twins.

I had a wee in the Blind Beggar pub yesterday 😂

The TV interview is from LONDON CRIME TV. The photo was taken by renowned photographer DAVID BAILEY.

The kemp Brothers from spandau ballet played the krays personally my favourite film about the Krays called The Krays.

I hate this sort of idolisation of murderers, thieves and bullies.

I belong to a club which was having monthly meetings in a pub in White Chapel. It was the weekend of the Queue after the Queens death and wanting to avoid the crowds used a circular route to reach Whitechapel. This meant that I used Whitechapel underground station. Outside their was a street market, and everyone looked quite poor. 100 to 200 yards there were tall modern buildings and people walking around with Latte's in their hands. This is still Whitechapel! The gentrification of London carries on a frantic pace.

I was born and brought up in Bow, which is close to where they were born. I worked in the French Connection warehouse ( Fairfield rd, Bow ) with Lennie Hamilton ( jewel Thief ) who was tortured by Ronnie with a hot poker.

There is an excellent fiction book based on the Krays and Richardsons called The Smoke by Tom Barling. Worth a read. I remember them being transported through London in a massive police procession on the way to their trial at the Old Bailey They took different routes each day and sent out decoy processions as the police were worried about attempts to break them free. My friend lived near them and knew them well, one positive was that within their area of influence there was little other crime as long as you didn’t get on their wrong side. Lord Boothby was an obnoxious oaf in his day and yet was continually in the media- the BBC naturally. Don’t be surprised British politicians are corrupt and perverted - they are still at it today.

@WasiuAlatise

8 ай бұрын

Now it's Islam blacks & Eastern European gangs in britain destroying the English race & culture

@lenwilcock2438

8 ай бұрын

They came up Clapham Rd every day of the trial, forked left up Bedford Rd into Kings Avenue and forked left up Lyham Rd where the entrance to Brixton Prison is situated. On our way home from School we'd stand on the wall by the Clapham North Estate opposite the Tube Station and watch them go by after the Police Motor Bikes held up the Traffic. It was quite a procession and took quite a while to pass. We were used to it because we had seen the same when first the train Robbers and then the Richardsons were on trial and the same procession went through. It was something of a curiosity and quite an attraction for us as kids.

@myrescuecats3028

8 ай бұрын

I knew Charlie Richardson very well And Mad Frankie Fraser. The Richardson’s were south side.

75K subscribers now - wow! Thanks for uploading, ladies.

I loved the tagline for the 1990 movie version, I think they used it on the video rental release cover... 'Mummy's Little Monsters'

Piece of trivia, the Kray twins were also the last prisoners to be held in the Tower of London in 1952

Great video again i did know about one of them had a relationship with dame Barbara Windsor she is a legend R.I.P. thank you for the great videos

My family knew someone murdered by the Kray's. People make them out to be these heroes, when actually they were two psychopaths who were violent killers.

Love David Bailey's photographs from the time. The picture shown is really effective at showing what powerful manipulative people are like. Of course their periods of 'success' without being involved in many killings is a measure of their success and how manipulative/scary they were. My godmother was 'Her Majesty's inspector of schools' in their patch (Tower Hamlets) and had a few stories to tell. I wish I had been old enough when she was alive to hear more of her stories. The Kray's would help people in difficulty... as long as they did as they wanted them to. Look at the crowds that turned out for the funerals.

Hi girls great video loved the history on them i think there is a book out on the krays there is a longer documentary on about the krays thats good

When I was a kid, before Mum and Dad bought their 1st house we lived with Nan and Grandad. There was a wannabe "Gangster" (so called) living down the road with his Mum. He'd tried to rip Ronnie and Reggie off so they sent a couple of the firm after him. He answered the door and they had a few words before the "kick in". His Mum heard it and rushed out with a frying pan and the Firm backed off because they were told to never hurt "Ladies" She was in her 70's, very frail, known as Fin Anne (Fin as in thin). Every family get together I ever went to, someone would say ""oh I remember when Fin Anne beat Ronnie and Reggie" 🙂

Ladies, the killing of Jack "The Hat" was not as stated in the video as it did not take place in the Carpenters Arms.

@martinwebb1681

8 ай бұрын

That's correct, It actually took place in a basement flat in an East London Victorian semi in Evering Road.

They were notorious back in the 50s and 60s. Feared by many.

Ronnie's unrestrained and uncontrolled violence has been underplayed. The Richardsons were at least as 'successful' Gangsters, and operated out of South East London ( as poor and violent as the East End), they however avoided publicity. The Krays did take part in a television interview which can easily be located on youtube.

@anthonybartlett6924

8 ай бұрын

charlie richardson could have been the ceo of any large company ronnie & reggie on the other hand were street thugs. i knew several of r&r's collectors in the 70's they also were prone to violence @ the drop of a hat. charlie could also get very violent if he thought it was warranted to protect his criminal enterprise other than that he tried to keep out of the limelight & make money. 2 of my uncles friends were relatives of charlie & eddie, though neither worked for charlie.

@H4CK61

8 ай бұрын

I lived in the same street as Charlie and Eddie and they were good guys always helpful and decent they have been villified by the press and was stitched up by the police. Yes they were villains but not to there own. Charlie was a very good businessman and Eddie was a hard bastard and with Frankie Fraiser were a formidable pair. The Krays were jealous of the Richardsons Wealth and success and tried to muscle in and thats where they f.cked up and were made to look what they were MUGS.

@MG-xm3yv

8 ай бұрын

The Richardson’s where from camberwell in south london not the east, Richardson’s weren’t gangsters they were successful business men who had issues of people muscling in on there manor & businesses, the Kray twins brother Charlie where all about being wanna be gangsters, ron kray was a psychopath, reg & Charlie tried to cover up Ron’s psychotic acts of violence, they feared the Richardson’s & was warned off numerous times by Eddie Richardson, I used to knock around with Eddie’s son frank

@anthonybartlett6924

8 ай бұрын

@@MG-xm3yv ok lets settle for criminals who invented the long firm fraud & the heathrow car park scam oh right that was charlie. my dad's family is from cottage green which is where we lived when i was born in 1956.

@georgemann1786

8 ай бұрын

@@H4CK61 Interesting

The photo you asked about was taken by David Bailey in 1965. He is a famous photographer who regularly took pictures of the royals and other prominent people, worked for Vogue etc.. Just as a foot note, Bobby Ramsey lived over the road from me and my father convinced him to go straight and get in to acting.

The film in which Tom Hardy played both Ronnie and Reggie Kray was called "LEGEND" I hope you get the opportunity to watch it, and yes it's violent.

Interesting watch girls. I was brought up in the East End of London. Many years after this episode of London's history. Thank you!

Boothby was Rector of my University, there was a portrait of him in my hall's library!

I worked in one of their old pubs in the mid 90’s. There were secret hallways in the walls.

Hi, beautiful ladies, thank you for another good video. IM from the UK you should find the documentary on the kray brothers. It gives you a lot more information. And what's happened to them when they were in prison

Omg I love you guys.

I used to work with a woman in South London who was related to the Richardsons and was baby-sat by 'Mad' Frankie Frasier a few times as a child(!) She told me a few hair-raising stories about them and the Krays. You did NOT mention Reggie or Ronnie at their family gatherings...

The Tom Hardy Movie "Legend" is an in incredible movie where Tom plays both Twins.

Natasha, you mentioned they looked as though they could have had Italian ancestry. I’ve just looked it up online and their ancestry was Irish and Jewish. Their father, Charles Snr, was of Irish descent from the Shoreditch area of London and their mother, Violet, was of Jewish descent hailing from Bethnal Green.

@rnw2739

8 ай бұрын

All that is irrelevant. They were both English and a vague, distant relative that may have riverdanced occasionally or had an obsession with spuds does not alter a thing.

There is a very quick clip of the twins being interviewed on television about their lives/ club activities on KZread.

Hi Ladies, you are absolutely right when you say that the photo looks professional. It was taken by David Bailey, a very well known British photographer. As for the Boothby affair, MI5 would not have considered The Krays a security risk as they were unlikely to have any connections to the KGB, unlike what happened with The Profumo affair. That's something that you might want to check out.

@Split10uk

8 ай бұрын

In a way, Bailey made them famous.

Monty Python even did a sketch called "The Piranha Brothers" which was inspired by the exploits of the Krays.

I'm from from Liverpool UK and 70 years old,. There's a story of one of the Kray's opo's traveling to Liverpool on the train in the early 60's to do a deal with the Liverpool undergrounds guys . The train stopped off at Runcorn Station, the last stop to Liverpool. He was met with a few guys. The story goes that he left Liverpool having never left the train and minus a few fingers. Sorted !!.

@garyford3533

Ай бұрын

Fantasy land!!!

Remember that everyone involved in the Boothby affair was a criminal because in the 1960s being gay was a crime. The MI5 investigation would have been looking at whether Boothby's actions made him vulnerable to blackmail by foreign intelligence services, not whether he knew a notorious British gangster. Incidentally, the Richardson's were, if anything, worse than the Krays, if not as famous. I once, as part of my job at the time, saw the prison committal records for the Richardson's themselves and the elder one was sentenced to several terms of life with a minimum of 30 years to run consecutively (So finish one 30 year term and immediately start another one). Someone else mentioned that the Krays were popular among ordinary law abiding East lenders because the level of petty crime and violence dropped significantly on their turf. There was one case I read about years ago about a couple of violent assaults on women. While the Police were pretty sure who was responsible they didn't have the hard evidence to take action. The story goes that a couple of days after the Krays became aware of the case the badly beaten body of the suspect was found floating face down in the docks. As Simon points out, the boys were brought up by the women in their family and idolized their mother. Their response to crimes against women was absolutely brutal. Not that you should ever condone that level of violence, but their popularity in the east end makes more sense if seen in context.

There are a couple of great films about the Krays. It was funny that Natasha got tongue-tied at the end, with all the stuff that you began with.

@ 9.26 Think the Kingsman pub scene

I live just 5 miles from Broadmoor, we have sirens every Monday at 10 am to practice in case people escape, scary scary people incasterated in there !!! just had a 250m rebuild and new entrance but still only 120 odd scary scary men

I've slightly warmed to Simon after really not liking his content for a while but you do show the best of him! I ended up watching his video on Sir Charles Kingsford Smith and for once he was accurate and bang on about an aviation and national hero.

Unfortunately the Krays acquired an unearned reputation. Yes, they were violent and dangerous BUT only to other criminals, not to the general public. I had worked with a guy who lived a few doors away from them. I had arranged to meet Bob (my friend) in a pub called the Morpeth Castle and we had a couple of beers and then went up to theWest End. I suppose I was only been in the pub for about a half hour. A few months later I decided that I'd go and see Bob. He didn't know I was coming and I walked into the pub and someone came up to me and said "are you here to see Bob?" I said that I was, and she said, "He'll be here soon." I felt quite safe there, despite the fact that the Morpeth Castle was one of the Kray's favourite pubs.

@ChelseaPensioner-DJW

8 ай бұрын

Only dangerous to other criminals. So that makes the pub and club owners and landlords that they threatened so as they could sell their fruit machines all criminals. Oh and all the shop owners were criminals also, when they needed 'Protection'. 🤡

There's alot more to it that what's been shown, The Krays were not to be messed with, there's 2 movies about the krays which go alot deeper. Always interesting when it came to the krays twins, so glad you've both looked into this but I'd say there's alot deeper you can go❤

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The one and only good thing you can say about the Krays compared to todays bad boys is that if you weren’t involved in their world you had little to worry about!

@4Kandlez

8 ай бұрын

Unless you were a legitimate business or club owner and you suddenly had to pay "rent"

I remember comiing out of Saintsbury's in Islington many years ago . Downhill all the way , but glimpsed my bus home approaching on my far right . Took to my heels and collided with with Frankie . Sent him sprawling . Picked up my fish fingers , ran even faster . Caught my bus to Stoke Newington . One of the old busses that you could jump on . No back door .

David Bailey took the photo of the krays. Was a famous 60s celeb photographer.

That was interesting never heard of them until now

Great reaction ladies. Next stop should be the Essex Boys and the Hunt Syndicate.

Use the K button on KZread to pause videos. It's a nice little feature. (solving the space bar issue)

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Hopefully it will work until we get a new keyboard

Leaky Blinders is brilliant. Violent, but brilliant!

I worked for a while at a plant hire company in Newhaven, East Sussex, one of my customers was a guy who owned a couple of fishing vessels operating out of the harbour there. He had been interviewed for a TV programme about the Krays and the unsubstantiated story that Jack the Hat had been taken out to sea on a trawler and dumped in the English Channel. He was not allowed to speculate on the show but he did tell me that Jack the Hat was by no means the only person to have been disposed of in this way.

I used to live in the same block of flats as a paranoid schizophrenic. He was built like a brickhouse and very dangerous. I do not recommend. One minute he's your best friend. Charming, eloquent, polite and engaging, but a few minutes later he wants to rip your nose off your face. Luckily for me, I can handle myself, so I kept my nose and was one of the first people to make him think twice before becoming aggressive. Watching him wrestle his conscience was unsettling and I often had to subdue him. Again, not recommended at all. Seeing someone's inner turmoil, and knowing you have to tackle what comes, at a moment's notice is heavy stuff.

I’ve literally watched every single interview and documentary about the craze. I’ve even met someone who was very close to Ronnie Cray back in the 50s and 60s.

The movie Legend with Tom Hardy is great … he plays both Ronnie and Reggie Kray a great performance as both twins, especially Ronnie the mad one, one of my favourite movies. It’s an unusual take on their story as it’s based on Reggies wife Frances story (she took her own life) but it’s got some great one liners in the movie… defo worth a watch girls. There’s a few movies about them an earlier one with the Kemp twins (they were pop stars in the 80s) is good too. There’s many documentaries about them. Some say their sentence was harsh as there been more dangerous killers and people have done worse etc … They were dangerous men no doubt about that! I personally think the authorities wanted them incarcerated because they thought they were above the law, they allegedly blackmailed Boothby the Politician, had judges in their pockets. What amazes me for all their connections and head of a criminal gang … they did their own dirty work in killing people. They got too big for their boots basically and thought they were infallible!

Wow interesting subject

I don't know if you can still get them, but Reg Kray wrote two books. "Born Fighter" the inside story of the rise and fall of the Kray twins, and "Villains We Have Known" which is a who's who of London villainy of their time, and offers a good insight to the mindset of these guys...Scary as you noted. Two of the villains mentioned were Jimmy and Johnny Nash. Given their origin of the Angel and Islington area, and my paternal grandfather being born in Bermondsey, the family living on the Old Kent Road just a mile or so South East of them. I have wondered if there's a historical connection by accident of birth. The books were published by Arrow Books, in 1991/1996, out of Random House. I have them along with the autobiographies of Freddie Foreman, and both Richardson brothers. A fascinating time in both of our countries. You guys had the Kennedys, LBJ, the Mafia, CIA, and FBI things going on, Cuba, and all of the assassinations which changed the political landscape over there. Anyway, thought you'd might be interested. Have fun, be well.

Jellied eels are southern. I've never and never will eat them. I'm northern! Try black pudding! Haha Congratulations on your anniversary btw. I'd never have guessed you were a couple! ❤❤

@janewalker3921

8 ай бұрын

Jellies eels are more East London .

@paulw314

7 ай бұрын

@@janewalker3921 really? I have family in London but never been offered jellied eels

Really interesting vid Natasha and debbie saw the movie with Tom hardy this helps understand the movie better