Good advice to install over the pan. Only time will tell if the HVAC industry likes it or not. It’s certainly an upsell.
@user-se3qd9sy2m19 күн бұрын
Thanks for the help on the Trane S8B. It worked like a champ, did what you said. Jumped G and Y ran yellow straight.through. Fan ramped up to cooling tap. Also thanks for the help on getting the condenser. This will become a regular thing as that property ages. Glad I can call on you when I need help.
@10speed419 күн бұрын
You have the shop of my dreams. Very nice.
@dimbag119 күн бұрын
Great video MR. T . I see you got some new asphalt. I hope the city/ county took care of you.
@AlwaysClearYT18 күн бұрын
Thanks for the awesome review, Ted!!
@TedCookHVAC
17 күн бұрын
Any time !! Keep me posted on any new stuff too !!
@johnwalker89019 күн бұрын
Good job Ted.......
@peterhodgkins698519 күн бұрын
It's certainly an interesting gizmo... I'll be anxious to see how the long term eval goes! The only snag is that being all glued together, if ya gotta take the thing out for some reason, you're kinda stuck with buyin' another one!
@bryansimon407219 күн бұрын
Curious to see how this works. Please update us on it. Really appreciate your openness to new ideas. Thanks
@n.gineer810219 күн бұрын
I agree on the “over the pan” ahead of the trap, but could you use a little bead of window caulk to seal the lid but still be able to take it apart?
@davidpetersen709119 күн бұрын
Love your videos. Mr. Pete--------> aging hippie
@eddiereichel93548 күн бұрын
Something about PVC glue and primer I never knew until I read the directions. They said you apply the glue before the primer dries.
@Eddy6319 күн бұрын
Nice looking install ... Seems like a good product ... We shall see ... Thx
@jeffreywhitlatch140919 күн бұрын
Too bad it doesn't treat the Evaporator drain pan. I enjoy watching your excellent footage.
@danobrien310919 күн бұрын
I don’t use primer on drains either Theodore. 👍👍🇨🇦
@danieldyer119 күн бұрын
My first impression of this video is your shop is beautiful. It was hard to see what a diamond in the rough it was back when it was a dingy, dirty body shop.
@rj.parker19 күн бұрын
I think the idea is ok but I don’t like the idea of chlorine vapors getting into the coil. Not sure lowering it would prevent vapors from migrating to the coil during off periods. I also wonder if that block of chlorine will last a year in hot humid locations where a couple gallons of condensate a day is produced. Rev2 might make use of standard pan tabs. Ultimately condensate lines may have to go commercial made with copper at least the first few feet.
@numchux219 күн бұрын
cool product, but they need to add a gasket and some screws in there or something to prevent leaks. That would also make it able to be maintained each season...
@stevedemarest27619 күн бұрын
Looks like it might be a tight squeeze on a lot of installations near the P-trap.
@edorofish19 күн бұрын
I saw one gadget you feed down the drain line and its supposed to keep the drain clear and free of clogs for 20 years. Blue rope?
@sentryfe7419 күн бұрын
Does it prevent a clog at the outlet of the evaporator drain opening itself? I guess some tablets in the pan would help with that.
@arthurhartwick797419 күн бұрын
If it’s mounted right outside the evaporator coil pan and the drain line does back up. You might end up with chlorine leaching back into the coil. I would worry that might cause refrigerant leaks.
@JohnH137019 күн бұрын
What keeps the alge out of the pan???
@carlmccoy66219 күн бұрын
They could make the body of that a little taller, the water level would trip a float cut off switch before it could leak out. That is for a unit without a pan.
@daleborg907019 күн бұрын
Is there a screw that got hidden behind the riser of the Ever-Clear? I think I would install a union so it could be easily removed.
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
Did they say…, mount over pan?
@95thousandroses19 күн бұрын
Seems like this should be mounted after the trap to prevent caustic chlorine fumes from entering the coil area. Not to mention the annoying smell. But then the trap wouldn't be getting any treatment..... ETA: This is some info I found from the site "The placement of the intake, outflow, floor, and directional vents of the Always Clear device eliminates vacuum induced hydraulic back draft and liquid back flow to the HVAC air handler. " So this addresses my previous concern.
@kfrench20113 күн бұрын
My issue is if/when they go out of business you wouldn’t be able to get those square chlorine tabs. It would be better to just make one out of pvc that those 1 inch hot tub tabs
@zackmax718419 күн бұрын
As Steve Lav says, You don't want No Leakas Momma.
@rtp491919 күн бұрын
Not that it would make a major difference for testing, but you did not follow their exact installation instructions. Then again you are the professional, good luck.
@roynewling659919 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t the furnace also run through it
@jayhatch797219 күн бұрын
No kind of Chlorine should be used in a drain. The fumes will back up into the coil and rust out the coil and Chlorine leaves a white residue when dry up over the winter and clog the drain when the cooling starts back up for summer. Was also told Chlorine attacks the pvc glue causing the glue to fail
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
Great Day…, what a lot of work, never mind, I’ll just call someone out, every few years, to clean the lines…😂
@jasonkenny142619 күн бұрын
Any concern of having the chlorine potentially gassing off so close to the evaporator coil? I imagine they tested it thoroughly, but we all know what chlorine does to aluminum.
@scotts412519 күн бұрын
I watched the guys video. He states you need 5.5 inches to install this. My units are on stands in closets and drain to the wall behind them. The drain on both units comes out past the float switch and makes a 90 and another 90 to the back wall. One unit I have enough horizontal pipe but the other only has 4". I could do some wacky go out further and 45 it back but I think I will just stick with the tabs. My secondary pans are right under the stands and the condensate lines are beyond the pans so if the float switch didn't work I would have a nice flood. Thankfully in Florida both float switches have done what they are suppose to do. At least once a year despite putting tabs in every month when I change the filters both lines have clogged at some point. CO2 and or a vacuum always clears them until the next time.
@davidtedore370619 күн бұрын
First line in step 1 of the directions says to put it as close to the Air Handlers as possible...
@kevinvt417419 күн бұрын
if you keep your filters changed it's probably a good product but this won't help dirty coils.
@throttlebottle590614 күн бұрын
"once a year cartridge" yeah those will get changed, just like the filters and other cleaning gets done. 🤣
@SpecialistOne19 күн бұрын
That AC thingy needs some form of lock on its main part so that the feed doesn't pop open with attic heat or some force. Also, some type of a gasket to waterproof it to avoid leaks. If the two pieces can be joined together with screws or something and a gasket, rather than the way it is that pushed together.
@avflyguy19 күн бұрын
Pricing is a little stout 😕
@dtyr12319 күн бұрын
if that chlorine tablet is the same as what they use in a swimming pool then maybe you can break off a chunk of a pool chlorine tablet when it comes time to reload it.
@chuckq5419 күн бұрын
$99 for a kit with one unit/cartridge. Refills are $25. Made in USA The top should be designed with an O-ring inside and 4 screws holding down the top to the body 🤷♂️
@eddiekilby19 күн бұрын
Ted maybe if you put a container under the outside drain and see if the water in it grows green stuff.
@pocketjokers119 күн бұрын
Just put the block of chemical in the pan, get better results with less hassle lol
@TedCookHVAC
19 күн бұрын
Then the whole house would smell like chlorine bleach big time.
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
Plus…., you have to keep buying “Chorline “ tablets!!
@CharlesAnsman19 күн бұрын
"A fool and his money, are easily parted"
@larrysmith935919 күн бұрын
Does it have instruction?😮
@rocker869219 күн бұрын
Made in cyh-na
@86AW1119 күн бұрын
Mikey Pipes said those things are garbage.
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
You would think that, they would give “specific “, instructions, about what was what, and how it works….!?!?
@rickdiego519 күн бұрын
There was an extensive scientific study done on joints done with primer and without primer. Everyone of the tests showed the joints were stronger without the primer. The primer actually makes the joints weaker. I've never used primer and installed lots of irrigation pipe and have never had a failure.
@hazendismukesjr.831919 күн бұрын
I think it should be mounted after the pan I think I heard that in the instructions
@chrismitchell644119 күн бұрын
A PVC junction box with 3/4 top and bottom connections, weather proof blank cover and a pool chlorine tablet works just as well for 10 bucks
@rickdiego519 күн бұрын
A Float switch on your condensate line would prevent damage. It seems like it is an okay idea using the chlorine but there's a couple negatives. It Is the cost and the other is that if you want to use a condensate water it's going to have chlorine in it so you can't use it for watering plants. I would also be concerned that the chlorine water does not backflow into your other furnace.
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
Call them on the carpet….👍
@pocketjokers119 күн бұрын
Nice thought but it doesnt do anything for the drain pan area or the drain pan fitting ,
@moshemoshe-yy8hj19 күн бұрын
Waist ofmoney
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
Details matter…..!!!
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
As I’m watching…, you’re making a lot of decisions, a “homeowner “, wouldn’t know how to make, or decide, kind of “a joke”….
@seadeas19 күн бұрын
As a courtesy, to you, I didn’t, but wanted to just stop watching….!!!
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Good advice to install over the pan. Only time will tell if the HVAC industry likes it or not. It’s certainly an upsell.
Thanks for the help on the Trane S8B. It worked like a champ, did what you said. Jumped G and Y ran yellow straight.through. Fan ramped up to cooling tap. Also thanks for the help on getting the condenser. This will become a regular thing as that property ages. Glad I can call on you when I need help.
You have the shop of my dreams. Very nice.
Great video MR. T . I see you got some new asphalt. I hope the city/ county took care of you.
Thanks for the awesome review, Ted!!
@TedCookHVAC
17 күн бұрын
Any time !! Keep me posted on any new stuff too !!
Good job Ted.......
It's certainly an interesting gizmo... I'll be anxious to see how the long term eval goes! The only snag is that being all glued together, if ya gotta take the thing out for some reason, you're kinda stuck with buyin' another one!
Curious to see how this works. Please update us on it. Really appreciate your openness to new ideas. Thanks
I agree on the “over the pan” ahead of the trap, but could you use a little bead of window caulk to seal the lid but still be able to take it apart?
Love your videos. Mr. Pete--------> aging hippie
Something about PVC glue and primer I never knew until I read the directions. They said you apply the glue before the primer dries.
Nice looking install ... Seems like a good product ... We shall see ... Thx
Too bad it doesn't treat the Evaporator drain pan. I enjoy watching your excellent footage.
I don’t use primer on drains either Theodore. 👍👍🇨🇦
My first impression of this video is your shop is beautiful. It was hard to see what a diamond in the rough it was back when it was a dingy, dirty body shop.
I think the idea is ok but I don’t like the idea of chlorine vapors getting into the coil. Not sure lowering it would prevent vapors from migrating to the coil during off periods. I also wonder if that block of chlorine will last a year in hot humid locations where a couple gallons of condensate a day is produced. Rev2 might make use of standard pan tabs. Ultimately condensate lines may have to go commercial made with copper at least the first few feet.
cool product, but they need to add a gasket and some screws in there or something to prevent leaks. That would also make it able to be maintained each season...
Looks like it might be a tight squeeze on a lot of installations near the P-trap.
I saw one gadget you feed down the drain line and its supposed to keep the drain clear and free of clogs for 20 years. Blue rope?
Does it prevent a clog at the outlet of the evaporator drain opening itself? I guess some tablets in the pan would help with that.
If it’s mounted right outside the evaporator coil pan and the drain line does back up. You might end up with chlorine leaching back into the coil. I would worry that might cause refrigerant leaks.
What keeps the alge out of the pan???
They could make the body of that a little taller, the water level would trip a float cut off switch before it could leak out. That is for a unit without a pan.
Is there a screw that got hidden behind the riser of the Ever-Clear? I think I would install a union so it could be easily removed.
Did they say…, mount over pan?
Seems like this should be mounted after the trap to prevent caustic chlorine fumes from entering the coil area. Not to mention the annoying smell. But then the trap wouldn't be getting any treatment..... ETA: This is some info I found from the site "The placement of the intake, outflow, floor, and directional vents of the Always Clear device eliminates vacuum induced hydraulic back draft and liquid back flow to the HVAC air handler. " So this addresses my previous concern.
My issue is if/when they go out of business you wouldn’t be able to get those square chlorine tabs. It would be better to just make one out of pvc that those 1 inch hot tub tabs
As Steve Lav says, You don't want No Leakas Momma.
Not that it would make a major difference for testing, but you did not follow their exact installation instructions. Then again you are the professional, good luck.
Shouldn’t the furnace also run through it
No kind of Chlorine should be used in a drain. The fumes will back up into the coil and rust out the coil and Chlorine leaves a white residue when dry up over the winter and clog the drain when the cooling starts back up for summer. Was also told Chlorine attacks the pvc glue causing the glue to fail
Great Day…, what a lot of work, never mind, I’ll just call someone out, every few years, to clean the lines…😂
Any concern of having the chlorine potentially gassing off so close to the evaporator coil? I imagine they tested it thoroughly, but we all know what chlorine does to aluminum.
I watched the guys video. He states you need 5.5 inches to install this. My units are on stands in closets and drain to the wall behind them. The drain on both units comes out past the float switch and makes a 90 and another 90 to the back wall. One unit I have enough horizontal pipe but the other only has 4". I could do some wacky go out further and 45 it back but I think I will just stick with the tabs. My secondary pans are right under the stands and the condensate lines are beyond the pans so if the float switch didn't work I would have a nice flood. Thankfully in Florida both float switches have done what they are suppose to do. At least once a year despite putting tabs in every month when I change the filters both lines have clogged at some point. CO2 and or a vacuum always clears them until the next time.
First line in step 1 of the directions says to put it as close to the Air Handlers as possible...
if you keep your filters changed it's probably a good product but this won't help dirty coils.
"once a year cartridge" yeah those will get changed, just like the filters and other cleaning gets done. 🤣
That AC thingy needs some form of lock on its main part so that the feed doesn't pop open with attic heat or some force. Also, some type of a gasket to waterproof it to avoid leaks. If the two pieces can be joined together with screws or something and a gasket, rather than the way it is that pushed together.
Pricing is a little stout 😕
if that chlorine tablet is the same as what they use in a swimming pool then maybe you can break off a chunk of a pool chlorine tablet when it comes time to reload it.
$99 for a kit with one unit/cartridge. Refills are $25. Made in USA The top should be designed with an O-ring inside and 4 screws holding down the top to the body 🤷♂️
Ted maybe if you put a container under the outside drain and see if the water in it grows green stuff.
Just put the block of chemical in the pan, get better results with less hassle lol
@TedCookHVAC
19 күн бұрын
Then the whole house would smell like chlorine bleach big time.
Plus…., you have to keep buying “Chorline “ tablets!!
"A fool and his money, are easily parted"
Does it have instruction?😮
Made in cyh-na
Mikey Pipes said those things are garbage.
You would think that, they would give “specific “, instructions, about what was what, and how it works….!?!?
There was an extensive scientific study done on joints done with primer and without primer. Everyone of the tests showed the joints were stronger without the primer. The primer actually makes the joints weaker. I've never used primer and installed lots of irrigation pipe and have never had a failure.
I think it should be mounted after the pan I think I heard that in the instructions
A PVC junction box with 3/4 top and bottom connections, weather proof blank cover and a pool chlorine tablet works just as well for 10 bucks
A Float switch on your condensate line would prevent damage. It seems like it is an okay idea using the chlorine but there's a couple negatives. It Is the cost and the other is that if you want to use a condensate water it's going to have chlorine in it so you can't use it for watering plants. I would also be concerned that the chlorine water does not backflow into your other furnace.
Call them on the carpet….👍
Nice thought but it doesnt do anything for the drain pan area or the drain pan fitting ,
Waist ofmoney
Details matter…..!!!
As I’m watching…, you’re making a lot of decisions, a “homeowner “, wouldn’t know how to make, or decide, kind of “a joke”….
As a courtesy, to you, I didn’t, but wanted to just stop watching….!!!
Not impressed!!!