I liked season 2, but it didn't have the WOW of season 1. It also seemed PG when the 1st season was a hard R.

@craigkennedy432

4 жыл бұрын

I liken this series (not the books) to AHS - anthology-esque: similar but not identical casting, a "theme", but in a universe that gives many different possibilities for locales, eras, etc.. Season 1 was just awesome sci-fi: raw, brutal, sexy, thoughtful; true fruit for the senses. this is different to be sure, but I think it was nicely done. I do believe that if there is a season 3, there needs to be new casting, characters, and maybe some "exposition" credits (like those at the start of BSG episodes)

@mjojni123

4 жыл бұрын

wow of season 2?

@algiersc9957

4 жыл бұрын

@@mjojni123 thanks. I meant the WOW of season 1.

@clateyclatey114897

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah season 2 sucked in comparison to 1

@ThunderBlastvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Well, to be fair, there was still one nude scene

the 2nd season was still a good show but the first season had a way better level of acting and the story flowed so much better. That said they are basically two different shows. The first season was a detective drama and the second season was action/adventure.

@MadmusicalHulk

4 жыл бұрын

Yes ... but only 8 episodes. I hope there is another season, I really enjoyed it,. Also the actress Dichen Lachman was in Dollhouse .... similar concept or is it just me ?!? Which also is another favourite of mine.

@bbmma838

4 жыл бұрын

@@MadmusicalHulk I've noticed that 2nd season's of basically every Netflix Original now is significantly shorter. Even if they still put out 10 episodes, just look at the screen time per episode. It's still going to be less time. I agree though, there had better be a 3rd season and I hope it doesn't take 2 years for them to do less work.

@christoph8200

4 жыл бұрын

Season 2 was so bad...IF you compare it to S1. The whole world seemed smaller, less details, less character development, less everything. To perfectly compare seasons I would say S1 was like a blockbuster film and S2 was picked up by the SyFy channel. Everything seemed watered down.

@orome9793

4 жыл бұрын

I disagree. First season was a great cyberpunk noir. The second season was a B-rate scifi.

@wampyrelli

4 жыл бұрын

@@MadmusicalHulk Tahmoh Penikett was also in Dollhouse... I've realised the similarity too, when I saw him :D

My main gripe with S2 is that Anthony Mackie is just a dude playing another dude, while Joel Kinnaman made Tak. feel like a real fleshed out original character.

@HexxuSz

4 жыл бұрын

so what can we do any way? takeshi has to change sleeves that is how the universe works

@magnusberge

4 жыл бұрын

@@HexxuSz Get a beter actor next time?

@HexxuSz

4 жыл бұрын

@@magnusberge cmon anthony is not bad

@ericbrown558

4 жыл бұрын

I think anytime you switch the actor on a lead character the character it self is going to feel different. By episode 3 I was over it and back into the new story

@SmokeyThaLion

4 жыл бұрын

@@HexxuSz hes not this guys just a salty hater

Dig says in the end "better get the good whiskey ready" thus implying Takeshi since he is the only one shown drinking whiskey.

Joel Kinnaman was sorely missed in this season. Season 2 went to far away from the cyberpunk aspect, which in turn hurt the season.

@crypticjim

4 жыл бұрын

They took a fantastic concept and turned it into a typical TV sci fi.

That's not the explanation I was looking for. What I want to know is "What the hell happened to this terrific show? Who's idea was it to turn the brilliant Takeshi into a muscle headed super hero?" Explain that please.

@marcblack960

3 жыл бұрын

Writers: "nah, fuck you. Pistol goes pew pew"

@Riftmaker17

2 жыл бұрын

Its called diversity hire hire all black cast for internet points and watch everything go to shit

@redstarkboxingsportsnews4289

2 жыл бұрын

So basically y’all only wanted white characters ?

@Riftmaker17

2 жыл бұрын

@@redstarkboxingsportsnews4289 yes season 2 sucked

@eliseintheattic9697

2 жыл бұрын

@@redstarkboxingsportsnews4289 As long as they don't suck I don't care how much melanin they have.

This review is the best I’ve heard on KZread so far. Everyone else seems too confused and has no idea what they are talking about. Good work! I will subscribe and like then.

@JakesPlace

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. I put a lot of effort into making these recaps but I'm sure I've made mistakes too.

@herpderp297

4 жыл бұрын

I havent seen other reviews but it might have helped that in this video it did not explain in order of episodes, instead story was explained chronologically which made it easy to understand. Kudos to the creator of the video

Season 1 great suspense, action, new concepts and mystery. Season 2: ACTION ACTION ACTION ALL QUESTIONS ANSWERED ACTION BADLY WRITTEN GOD TIER CHARACTER. but louder.

@struckbyrainbow_8780

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This is similarly done to got season 8. Too fast, too forced and too money oriented

I miss Dichen Lachman... she hawt.

to the last comment about demeanor. I think they softly address this within the show. The STACKs are just "raw" data or your soul. The Sleeves they inhabit have Bio information such as hormone levels/brain differences, thus its these Bio differences that can "alter" a personas personality given time. I also think this is what the show meant by "losing yourself" after so many jumps.... but thats just my 2 cents :)

@JakesPlace

4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense.

@wattycuffee5664

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree season one Tak even said "I can't help it they put me in a hardcore nicotine addict" when asked about his smoking and drinking.

Dude. This was the best s2 review out there. Thanks for getting the story and universe. You rock. 👍Annabel and Poe serving whiskey. 🥃

@drewcarter3100

3 жыл бұрын

Dude S2 was absolute dog shit.. but this dude makes it seem more interesting than it was 😆 They seriously should have canceled it after S1 though

@Maj_Kasul

3 жыл бұрын

@@drewcarter3100 true. I had hopes for the show, but the writing and acting was kinda a mash up of the second and third books. Which also weren’t as good as the first book which the first season was based on. When they had good source materials they made a good show. Maybe they weren’t really fans and this was the best they could do. The concept of the universe is good, sadly I doubt anyone will revive this series again. So for what we have I’ll just have to be happy and sad.

@drewcarter3100

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maj_Kasul my biggest issue was how terrible Anthony Mackie was.. 🤦‍♂️ he didn't even try to recreate Kovacs from the first season. His dialect, his mannerisms, his attitude, it was basically a COMPLETEY different character. Pair that with the lackluster storyline, character arcs, I found myself forwarding through at least 20-25 minutes every single episode because of how boring it was.

in the books you learn that there are at least 2 more species outside of humans

This is just glorified fan fiction, it's not Altered Carbon, it's Fifty Shades of Carbon

@fraffucci2

4 жыл бұрын

This is so true on so many levels that it hurts... however you MUST agree (just like enders game) that its pretty sweet to see the person in your book in the flesh :)... idk i love this.

@crypticjim

4 жыл бұрын

@@fraffucci2 In a way that made it worse, at least for season 1,Joel Kinnaman was so good, and to have the story be twisted like that guaranteed we wouldn't get a decent book 3, and season 2 definitely delivered a garbage version of a mashup of the next two books. I had suck high hopes, especially after the first couple episodes of season 1 but it all went down hill quickly.

Does anyone think that Quellcrist Falconer turned into a full Mary Sue this season? Her list of abilities is crazy: Super scientist who created stacks, high moral rebel leader, hand to hand combat and ranged weapon specialist, powerful enough to contain an alien being in her brain. Then she says her only weakness is that she allowed herself to fall in love with Tak! Every second she was on screen in season two was hard to watch. Tak (by comparison) gets the crap beaten out of him several times during the show and he's the lead character, meanwhile she flows through a combat like she's made of smoke.

Not gonna lie, season two was good, but season 1 is a banger and a incredible season that I loved. I hope season 3 brings that feeling again.

Rei's present in S1 and her relationship with Tak made S1 as good as it is imo. Her absence due to her story coming to conclusion is sad indeed. I still really enjoyed S2 tho.

On the subject of actors changing and demeanour, sleeves actually hold onto articulation and personality. Only synth bodies have no prior habits that follow resleaving. Hence how rikers body in season one was addicted to cigarettes

@blackwolfie8326

4 жыл бұрын

details..

@dougst.pierre9501

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve read the books multiple times and every time kovacs changes sleeves he talks about the sleeves history at some point and he talks about the sleeves memories and how sometimes he gets deja vu from there past life.

@kennethknight5964

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I understand but its TOO far from the first sleeve. I'd understand small changed but when the second one seems emotional and lacking humor it isnt even a similar personality

@blackwolfie8326

4 жыл бұрын

@@kennethknight5964 yea man,Joel was just perfect for it, it lost a lot... Anthony just can't convey that tough don't really give a fuckness, ruggedness, he portraits kovac more like the typical good hero in modern series etc.. Joel was perfect for that role, they should have selected a better actor capable to gradually evolve the emotional state of kovaks building from S1..

@johnmantor4326

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennethknight5964 well its understandable why his personality changes some, After all theres a huge time gap between the 2 seasons

Just finished watching it. Loved it. And got no gripes about cast and stuff. Just a fun sci fi watch.

The fact that you threw in the vine "i cant believe you've done this" has just made you my favorite youtuber of all time 👏👏👏

Second season was bad! Joel Kinnamon made the show, he had presence,. Sarcasm, Mackie was boring. 1st session story flowed. Actors in in second season were bland.

@crypticjim

4 жыл бұрын

Re sleeving is kinda the point but if they were gonna fuck with the rest of the story, well then keeping the same actor would have been less of a sin than the way they changed major plot points. At least we'd still have a believable Tak

Anthony Mackie is not a bad actor but this show felt a lot more concrete with the original actor from season 1. After a certain point, what made the show so fresh and original (The stacks) now it’s overused all just for Tekashi?

I like the format and Birth Sleeve Tekashi is the main character if we’re being honest and having a different Kovacs every season is a dope concept . Then will probably get Mackie appearances . Who knows with this show this could honestly go 10 seasons

@chumcalmdown

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh N Lawz comedy and social commentary with this concept, it can go 20 lol or 10 with like 5 spin off movies lol

@neilmurgatroyd3197

4 жыл бұрын

The Doctor Who concept revisited (no harm in that)

bit late but personally I feel Kovach's mannerisms change to suit the body he's in. Like a way to respect the birth owner of the sleeve, linking back to the rebellion plot.

I just binged season two last night, Harlan's colony arrived on a cryo ship, not a generation ship. Big difference.

This review is great but every time I hear "Quellquest" I cringe :'( It's Quellcrist Mackie just doesn't have the same gravitas as Kinnaman, which really added to the darkness of the show in season 1 I felt

@SmokeyThaLion

4 жыл бұрын

Mackies way better

@SmokeyThaLion

4 жыл бұрын

@Lumumba B. 40 times better

@clateyclatey114897

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Reed u stupid? Kinnaman was a way better actor for this role

@megsmacgregs320

3 жыл бұрын

@@SmokeyThaLion Mackie is a good actor but he does not have the acting chops that Kinnaman has. He was fucking amazing in The Killing and For All Mankind and brings something new to every role. Mackie just plays himself, nothing changes.

They confirmed its Takeshi

There's alot to cover in 20 mins and you did a good job touching all the bases... Well done

His voice and speaking style changed so much in 2 years lol it’s funny cause I just found this channel and only watched season 1 of this recap lol what a shift 😂

Man they went way too far into the narratives relation with the world here, in the last season (while there was a lot of the world and its lore involved) the narrative revolves around a Sherlock Holmes type of quest and it really fleshed out the universe by allowing us to live in it like our characters and experience the mystery like our characters.

Man I absolutely love this show.

Why didn't Daniel Jackson get T'ealc to help out? Indeed.

@JakesPlace

4 жыл бұрын

How sick would Christopher Judge be in this series haha

Fantastic recap. I was able to follow season one quite well but got completely lost watching season two lol. Big thanks!

It is confirmed that Tak is alive when Anabel Lee said to Poe to prepare whisky. Since Tak loves whisky as shown in the show.

Well done jake and team. Great summary 🎉

The DHF that poe saved is obviously takeshi miss dig told him better get the whiskey ready If you paid attention to detail that is a very obvious hint

I really enjoyed the debrief of season one and season two! Thanks a lot!

I liked S1 more but still loved S2. I think S3 should bring back Joel Kinnaman and focus on the 3 different Takeshi's out there now, and how different they are. (Edit: Yeah I thought there was still one leftover from S1 lol, even after a recent rewatch. But apparently he died too.)

@Vexreal_

4 жыл бұрын

it wouldnt make sense to bring him back. and where are the other 2? there is only 1 alive at the end of s2

@DenisineD2

4 жыл бұрын

Plus the time frame...if i remember its 30 years after Bay City

@clateyclatey114897

4 жыл бұрын

Kinda sucked that they killed the original Takeshi off at the end

@Cifer77

4 жыл бұрын

@@clateyclatey114897 I'd recommend rewatching that final scene with Poe, you may have missed a detail ; )

I liked it. Not quite as good as season one. You are a good "soul"

Im not a fan of Anthony Mackie's Tak

Thank you. Your awesome

I subscribe to you simply because of that “bahd muhfhhuka” remark and the excellent Annunciation therein

Best review of Season 2. Made a lot more sense 👍 Subscribing

I miss Leung, there's no badass bad guy in S2.

Thank you so much for this!! I just re-watched s1 which I loved but heard mediocre things about s 2 hence looking for a pocket version.

Man are all aussies such good commentators? The review was hilarious

What was the point of the symbol that kept coming up? I miss that.

@collegeopera

4 жыл бұрын

Jack Bauer If you mean the one that the possessed“Quell” carved, the archaeolog the governor captured said it meant “nest” or “roost”. Considering the nursery was where the genocide was committed....

Can you explain more about Semetaire and the soul market?

Thanks Jake!!!

@JakesPlace

3 жыл бұрын

Love and kisses

Fantastic video

For Season 3, pls GO FULL POE 🙏🏻

Why is no one talking about Danica? I loved her character! It was just so well written and had its depth (unlike some main characters), also huge shoutout to Lela Loren for flawless acting skills.

@chumcalmdown

4 жыл бұрын

Del0000 I liked her better on this show than Power.

@christoph8200

4 жыл бұрын

Really?!?! she was the worse actor of S2. I would compare her acting to that of daytime soaps. What happens when you blow your whole acting budget on one actor and use D class actors as the supporting cast.

@clateyclatey114897

4 жыл бұрын

Danica was decent as an actor but that woman with the hair coils was annoying as shit

I really enjoyed this season although I missed kinnaman and some charisma but I am thrilled for s3!!

I really enjoy the summary and help me understand even more. I was kinda lost during season 2. Thanks🙏🏽

I see you changed your "poe"nunciation of Takeshi's last name so it fits that of the show. I was gunna comment on the previous video had you not in this one, but here I am. Cool videos!! This was a great show to binge on Netflix.

at the end Dig told Poe to "prepare the good whiskey" meaning for kovacs?

Pretty sure that the DHF stored in Poe is Takeshi, or else that other AI wouldn't have suggested poe taking out the good whiskey

Brilliant video i instantly Became a fan 👍🖤💜💚💯

Thank you!!!

I feel the set design was heavily lacking in a lot of this. Harlan could've been way more creative.

I agree

Let me explain Season 2 in short; it's shit.

Can you do a review for the animated movie??

Is it just me or did season 2 suck compared to season 1

What is the story behind the drawing that Quell makes, drawing that is placed in the envelope ?

@JakesPlace

4 жыл бұрын

Not 100% but I think it's to do with an elder language which helped prove that quell had an elder "entity" in her stack.

If you like the show, don't bother with the books, which are amazing. They changes so much in season one that it has almost nothing to do with the 2nd and 3rd book anymore. I loved the books so the series has been aggravating. Joel nailed the character in season one, but the changes in the end were just stupid, so by the time season 2 arrives it barely resembles the next two books in the series. Quell doesn't even show up until the 3rd book, she didn't train him, and they didn't have a thing going. Well at least not at first. Never wanted to be one of those "the book is better" snobs but here I am.

you never touched on my biggest question, why did tak say to jager that he should be dead already, they said hes only spun up for war, so i get it hes not rich but the ctac need him so why would he get old enough to die if hes always replaced to a new sleve?

What happened to ryker sleeve

It took an episode for me to get into season 2. The problem is a bunch of non scifi fans loved season one and didn't quite understand the world it seems. The entire premise of the show is that you can swap bodies. Taks whole thing, even mentioned by his his sister and several other characters "You used to swap sleeves like nothing". Meaningbhe has had probably a thousand different bodies over the years. If you truly grasp the essence of the show its easy to move on although the actor in season 1 is the reason I got hooked on the show in the first place. I'm a HUGE For All Mankind fan so I was already a fan of his and it was a pleasant surprise a week ago when I started Carbon, to see him as the lead. The problem is Makey doesn't seem to try to carry on his traits. I looked for then the first few seasons and then I stopped as it didn't seem like he even tried. That said I still loved season 2. This is my favorite new scifi universe as it feels lived in, a John Wick style environment with tons of lore/history/backstory. I suppose I have to read the books now

@JakesPlace

Жыл бұрын

I didn't mind the cast change, but agree Makey didn't seem to have Taks traits, but I also thought the action was weak and far to much of it. It just didn't have that gothic darkness of the first season I thought.

The elders were described as war like creatures and they were almost extinct so the creatures they were fighting potentially could be more advanced than them

Ohh God.. His vocabulary and phrase..... Funny and nice.. Thanksss 💓 👌 👌

Who exactly is lizzie again and why did Poe help her in season 1? I forget.

I like it

Save yourself 20 minutes. I will explain season 2 for all of you in 2 words, "it's shit". There you go.

Are they going to make a 3rd season

@JakesPlace

3 жыл бұрын

Not anytime soon. It got cancelled.

I have 2 episodes left and I need to know, so obviously huge spoilers to anyone who clicks on the answer. Quell is probably my favorite female sci-fi character of all time. If she dies at the end of the season I’m never watching TV again. Please tell me she survives.

@pyotrkropotkin406

4 жыл бұрын

Swann These are questions you have to find out on your own. We cannot help you. 😀

@dallasroberts3206

4 жыл бұрын

She dies. Comes back as a tree. All very peaceful. They use Miracle Grow. It’s really beautiful.

Season 2 was good but I wanted some more explanation of the elders and the envoy training and teachings.

Joel is the last envoy.

Good Poe impression

Gotta be takeshi in that DHF cause DIG said to Poe “better get the good whiskey ready”

I could not make it past the first episode. The main character was clearly miscast and... eh, I don´t even remember much of it. First episode of the first season had me hooked instantly.

Someone close to me put it best. Mackey is a good actor but he's a bad kovacs. In season 1, 3 actors played him and all seemed to be the same character. In season 2, kovac was different in every body.

What happened first Harlan and Founders killed Elders OR Quellcrist Falconer invented Cortical Stack?????

Actually, acting and shakycam aside, the story of S2 is more SF than S1 which in essence was a bit LA Confidential. Looking fwd to S3

Its definitely Nak because before it ended Dig said that bring out the whiskey.

I WILL @ YOU! bit of an underwhelming season though. They need more actors with charisma if there's a season 3

I want another season :(

@runhomie1013

2 жыл бұрын

Season 3:rise of Poe

I can't just watch Mackie ruin the flare I have if Joel playing Tak perfectly So I'm here watching this explained video Thank you

Maybe Quells "imaginary" friend is actually Envoy Takeshi's DHF. There might be some free space on her stack since the elder moved out.

@L333ize

4 жыл бұрын

Full Spectrum Matter 🤔

@QargZer

4 жыл бұрын

takeshis dhf was stored within poe..

@circuitboardsushi

4 жыл бұрын

@@QargZer probably, but it's not actually shown who's DHF Poe has.

Pissed there won't be a season 3

Who really controls the Orbitals? in the episode where Danica launched the Rocket (fireworks), the Orbitals are seen the destroy the rockets and the prison staff strapped to them. This made me ask if they were being controlled or not? if the Orbitals were not controlled and say they were programmed to obliterate anything leaving the surface then how can Harlans export the alloy used in the stack in the first place? Is this a plot hole or is there something i'm missing?

@Dj2xP

4 жыл бұрын

The orbitals probably were programmed to protect themselves from any sort of attack, so I assume the rockets were aimed at them knowing they would be shot down by the Orbitals.

@Bromley86z

2 жыл бұрын

In the books, the orbitals were an abandoned automated Martian network. They shot anything over a certain mass/threat level that flew over a certain height. It's a network that covers the whole planet, but there is one hole in that network (missing orbital, reason unknown) which allowed the colony expedition to land. That's where the capital was founded, and that's how you physically get on/off the planet. Of course, the TV series fucks with the books so much that this might not hold true: e.g. the whole stacks-alloy-export idea is not in the books. The whole point of DHF is it allows FTL travel of personalities, but not matter. Moving actual freight between worlds would take so long as to not be worth it for all but the very richest in society.

I am up to episode 3, and I just knew something felt off, series 2 is a complete bastardisation of books 2 and 3. Soo many plot holes now .... like how do they get the mined stack metal off planet? The angle fire was supposed to shoot anything that went over 130m off the ground down (if I remember correctly). I do like the inclusion of Poe, and I do wish he was in books 2&3. I cannot see how/where there gunna go or even if there is a season 3, as iirc the author wasn’t going to do a book4, and instead did some prequels Dunno how I feel about it now .... gunna have to do some beer meditation 🧘‍♂️

@ivanhartley4378

4 жыл бұрын

David Hill I don’t recall that in the book 😉

@glennkammerer795

4 жыл бұрын

In the books it's said that there is a safe zone or a very small hole through the defense grid, near the equator, but it's difficult to navigate.

@crypticjim

4 жыл бұрын

I just regard the series as fan fiction, which it basically is. It lets me still enjoy the show even though they are fucking up the books. it's a little disappointing since 3 was by far my favorite book and that was dead with the way they changed things in season one. I didn't even know there were prequels, where they any good?

has you seen ALTERED CARBON Anime

Now do Why Did They Cancel Altered Carbon Explained

@JakesPlace

3 жыл бұрын

OK. I made this just then for you specifically: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIpnsMiuk5SWh6Q.html

@DustinPlatt

3 жыл бұрын

@@JakesPlace love you

Thanks for all the detail now I wont make the mistake of watching this show

Super great synopsis of Season 1 + 2. Really Great! It helped bring the whole thing together. Great job. Personally, I'd like much LESS brutal violence & torture. I actually fast forwarded through some sections because I thought it was over the top. If the story is good (which it is)... & if the characters are engaging (which they are)... excessive violence is completely unnecessary (& actually takes away from the series, I think).

Dude, fuck these haters think. . .you did an awesome bloody job, I totally love the addition about the soul, which I hope that is something they delve into a bit more next season(no fucking way it can't happen)

In my opinion season 2 felt like a bad CW tv show. Large part of scenes are transitions. Themes, dialogue, casting, special effects, and fight scenes are disappointing. Let's be honest, what fight scene was really memorable? (Final fight scene was meh) What cool scene showcased his "enhanced" healing? (They could have done some cool scenes like in X Men movies with Wolverine, but none to be found) Season 1 felt like a Blade Runner like fun. Season 2 felt unfocused, sloppy, and sadly cheap. Fans waited this long for a lame CW like product to me was a bummer. Season 3 to complete the book series would now seem doubtful. I was so excited for this season but after the third episode it seemed clear what this was... Not the competitor to The Expanse...

I think that DHF is the "old" Poe.

@JakesPlace

4 жыл бұрын

I thought that for a moment but DHF os digital HUMAN freight... also there is the line about the whiskey... I dunno maaaan.

@sincord1

4 жыл бұрын

DHF is takeshi

netFUCK fucked up .... we need season 3

I found season 2 to be a bit weaker, we don't see thru Takeshi's eyes except hear and there as well there is far less of the puzzle solving from the first season, also from the first season we see less of the building of the pack that quell talked about, also for an interstellar civilization why do we see all the surface favoritism, where are the Dyson swarms