Alpina or BMW | What E30 would you have?

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Imagine you were back in 1990 standing in Sytner Nottingham or L&C's Tunbridge Wells. You have the choice to purchase an E30, what one do you choose: the Alpina C2 2.7, Alpina B6, BMW E30 325i Sport or the glorious BMW E30 M3?
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  • @497adam
    @497adam7 ай бұрын

    Where is the audio of the lovely engines and exhausts?

  • @teamphashash
    @teamphashash8 ай бұрын

    For me being in South Africa, this episode really brings to mind the homologation 325iS withM3 suspension evo1and evo2 (2.7 145kw and 155kw versions)BMW S.A never brought the E30 M3. And ofcourse the 333i(M30 motor and Mtec1 kit) Now Opel had a kaddet 2.016v 'superboss' that proved a thorn in many bmw backsides on and off the track.

  • @bss325i
    @bss325i8 ай бұрын

    An E30 325i sport doesn’t weigh 1600KG. Also there was one solitary RHD B6 2.8 built in Buchloe for Sytner to evaluate. It’s still alive, it’s reg is B6MEE. Also that green C2 2.7 is not the very last built, I can think of three others including a K reg touring own.

  • @mpower320i

    @mpower320i

    8 ай бұрын

    No E30 weighs 1600KG. Their weight is about 1300 something! 1600KG is an F80 😅

  • @christianmarcussen6093

    @christianmarcussen6093

    6 ай бұрын

    A standard 325i weigh 1150 kg

  • @philtucker1224

    @philtucker1224

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes the 325i touring wagon was also utterly gorgeous - especially as a family daily.

  • @bzilla1090
    @bzilla10908 ай бұрын

    As a South African our Halo car was the 333i which was a strokes M30 with the Mtech 1 kit and bits and bobs from Alpina, brilliant car, you could either have it with Aircon and no power steering or vice versa due to lack of space in the engine bay for both.

  • @nkosanamabena3484

    @nkosanamabena3484

    8 ай бұрын

    Please make a video of the South Africa special e30's, the are a few examples in the UK. E30 33i and 325is not Sport 😅

  • @paulforbes1319

    @paulforbes1319

    Ай бұрын

    💯 guys...325iS Evo2 was the best. 155kw

  • @PowerslideSWE
    @PowerslideSWE8 ай бұрын

    More like 1200 kilos, not 1600 for the 325i's, great video, fantastic line-up of cars.

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @christianmarcussen6093

    @christianmarcussen6093

    6 ай бұрын

    1150 kg for a standard 325i

  • @e28forever30

    @e28forever30

    2 ай бұрын

    Where did you get that 1600kg weight?

  • @y0057

    @y0057

    13 күн бұрын

    The e30 325i sport weighed about 1,500kgs min with leather seats electric bits, the body kit, other luxury items and because of the 2.5ltr 6cyl (extra 2cyl)engine vs the 1200kg for the 2.3ltr 4cyl m3 with lighter panels, cloth seats, less electrics and drilled boot bits etc. So sounds about right. I owned all models: -e30 (323i/ 325i). -Alpina c2 2.5/ c2 2.7. e30 m3( Ceccoto/ Evolution) models. Spanning a period of 22years of ownership in total. The 325 was NEVER ever 1200KG. Even the e30 m3 that was fully kitted up weighed more with electric everything and AC and sunroof(electric or like the Ceccoto models or the Ravaglia model which both had electronically adjustable sport suspension or the Europa Meister Edition. My evolution was the full lightened model with no electrics/ no sunroof/ no leather and manual wind down windows. Probably the only model I ever saw in that rare spec. Car was seriously fast! Miss them all☺️

  • @PowerslideSWE

    @PowerslideSWE

    13 күн бұрын

    @@y0057 My E39 M5 weighed 1690 kilos with a half tank of fuel. Non sunroof car. No way an E30 325i is 1500.

  • @shameerpatel4333
    @shameerpatel43338 ай бұрын

    Something missing here the hartge H27 sp I'd have that

  • @foundnotlost

    @foundnotlost

    6 ай бұрын

    A choice of any e30 would have to be the Black e30 333i, always loved the look of a touring 325ix maybe, be nice pal🙏

  • @philtucker1224
    @philtucker12242 ай бұрын

    All utterly lovely, also in addition (as it wasn’t a “performance” model), you didn’t mention the earlier “family four door” 323i six cylinder E30 (that I owned) and was the milder predecessor to the 325i but still just as lovely to drive and own. 🙏👍

  • @161BMW
    @161BMW8 ай бұрын

    The 325i SPORT is 1200kg not 1600 as mentioned in the video.

  • @dwaine22
    @dwaine228 ай бұрын

    No E30 weighed 1600 kg , 325 weight in a @1150kg so alpinas with bigger engines more plush interior , they gotta be 1300kg tops

  • @christianmarcussen6093

    @christianmarcussen6093

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes. A standard 325i is 1150 kg.

  • @pablowski6418
    @pablowski64188 ай бұрын

    The c2.7 manual trans all day long !

  • @daneilhussain-gm7uo
    @daneilhussain-gm7uo8 ай бұрын

    Alpina c2.7 all day everyday b6 is tempting too nose heavy and a mtec 2 e30 is a beautiful thing with a 2.7 c2.7 conversion perfect

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely!

  • @mikaeljonsson4686
    @mikaeljonsson46868 ай бұрын

    Alpina for sure!

  • @motoboy420ify
    @motoboy420ify7 ай бұрын

    Excellent video!👍

  • @Lar308
    @Lar3087 ай бұрын

    Great video! My 1991 325i coupe went through Classic Hero's hands at some stage - car still has its sticker on the back window. Car now in Ireland.

  • @evenflow2907
    @evenflow29077 ай бұрын

    Let’s not forget hartge built some beautiful e30s, I had a h26 still have an e30 m3 and a mtec2 sport, but my all time favourite would have have to be a 2 door c22.7 alpina 👌🇩🇪

  • @stevensumner3146
    @stevensumner31463 ай бұрын

    Great thanks for sharing and interesting how the 4 pot had advantages over the 6 in these cars

  • @samuelcraigrangi
    @samuelcraigrangi8 ай бұрын

    Down in NZ the best we got was the Mtechnic 325i sports - daily drive mine year round!

  • @user-hk4zw5nq7z
    @user-hk4zw5nq7z8 ай бұрын

    Living in Munich for 3 years, in 2000 I bought a E28 535i with the dogleg gearbox. It had 120.000 km on the clock, all of the electrical extras bar the seats. I paid 3,500 DM for it, around 1,600 GBP. I had it for 6 years and drove 80.000 km in it. I loved it and as many others in their 40s and 50s I am also member of the “the-one-that-got-away”-club. I did not realize at the time how important it is what a car makes you feel. I do now, and if I could have it back, I would buy it on the spot. Even now, 17 years on from when I parted with it, it is still in my dreams sometimes. So my choice would be the Alpina with the 3.5 liter engine and the dogleg gearbox because it reminds me the most of what I had. Great videos, Barney. Your commentary in the video on the E28 M5 manages to project that BMW feeling you get when you see a fast BMW from that period. Great stuff! I will keep watching and hope a lot more people will watch your channel in future - it is passionate, knowledgeable and quality TV.

  • @shindilal3311
    @shindilal331120 күн бұрын

    Very enjoyable

  • @Lar308
    @Lar3087 ай бұрын

    Alpina's were interesting but as said below I preferred the standard E30's. Even if I had the money back then and now I think I would still opt for a standard car - as I did with my 325i coupe.

  • @user-sb2uf5mj6y
    @user-sb2uf5mj6y8 ай бұрын

    Great video Barney really enjoyed a trip down memory lane. My immediate boss had one of the first E30 318i models and he thought he was something special until the partner heading the department ordered an E28 M5! I used to go out to meetings in that car with him and I felt a million dollars at 21. Great memories.

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Very cool!

  • @jakeem0
    @jakeem07 ай бұрын

    I would have loved a B6 3.5S here in Sweden.

  • @chrisleech333
    @chrisleech3338 ай бұрын

    E30 M3 evolution. My favourite car of all time

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely!

  • @kev_in_traffic
    @kev_in_traffic8 ай бұрын

    325is hands down! that body kit is just perfect!

  • @MrBatwa
    @MrBatwa8 ай бұрын

    I had a lachs silver 325 m sport 2. 1989 F reg coupe. I sold it for £3900 in 2000. 😢

  • @samuelcraigrangi

    @samuelcraigrangi

    8 ай бұрын

    I bought my 1989 Lachs 325i Mtech 2 2 years ago - still being daily driven and turning heads!

  • @vantransit5692
    @vantransit56928 ай бұрын

    Great video 👍 E30 my favourite car, had a few back in the day 🙂 unfortunately the best one a 2.7 I crashed, ended upside down and written off 😢 but it's strength saved my life. P's isn't that Carl Cox's B6🤔

  • @Abigailrp
    @Abigailrp3 ай бұрын

    the linup in this video is simply JAW DROPPING

  • @darrenboston342
    @darrenboston3428 ай бұрын

    I have an E30 M3 sport Evo in my collection, absolutely love it, turns heads whenever I take it out. Love the E30 B6 also which Alpina did in the E30 M3 body but for me it has to be the one & only M-Powered E30 M3 sport Evo 👌

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Couldn't agree more!

  • @josemadrigal7782
    @josemadrigal77828 ай бұрын

    The alpina is definitely nice but my dream car is the e30 m3 for sure. Maybe one day. Here's hoping 🙏

  • @q8hektor
    @q8hektor8 ай бұрын

    I have e30 mt2 dolphin gray with s54 swap and 6 speed manual and i love it but my deam car would be e30 m3 sport evo

  • @t2216
    @t22167 ай бұрын

    Never driven M3, but almost all original models, original Alpina C1, built M30b35 and my own stroked 2.7 similar to Alpina I would say I would go for the B6. It is probably amazing

  • @wezie4402
    @wezie44028 ай бұрын

    What about the e30 325is that was only made in South Africa

  • @C6Fever
    @C6Fever7 ай бұрын

    I had a 1989 b6 3,5 in 1991 with just the b6 3,5 badge in the front. When racing I let the other cars hang on to 50kmh and just when they were shifting to 2nd I would hit the gas, 1st did 85kmh :p

  • @neilcoakley1376
    @neilcoakley137619 күн бұрын

    good watch - enjoyed that. must have been a good day driving the E30 range

  • @neilcoakley1376

    @neilcoakley1376

    19 күн бұрын

    Oh and for sure the M3. On my wishlist - but haven't got a spare £100k!

  • @philipmo4609
    @philipmo46098 ай бұрын

    Had a great used BMW E30 M3 Johnny Cecotto back in 1992. Managed to put a set of the 5 spoke AC Schnitzer alloys on them after the first year of ownership. 🎉🎉

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Very nice!

  • @philipmo4609

    @philipmo4609

    8 ай бұрын

    @@heromotorcompany shame that I've sold it, but that was many years ago. Great video BTW! 🎉 Also, there was once a UK magazine publication called Top Car circ late 1990s, 2nd or 3rd issue had a full feature about the E30 M3, all of which were modified by the different tuning houses, AC, Hartage, Alpina, maybe Racing Dynamics. I think still have the magazine in an old cardboard box in the loft. 😂😉

  • @achimstemmer889
    @achimstemmer8897 ай бұрын

    Great comparison. Where ist the "3,5" gone? The sign must be "B6 3,5"! 😉

  • @adrianrandall2395
    @adrianrandall23958 ай бұрын

    What a fantastic video Barney. Brilliant. Need a B6 to keep the M3 company 😉! Cheers Adrian

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    You and me both!

  • @davidglanister4256
    @davidglanister42568 ай бұрын

    All of them please! A superb video... Thank you. Personally an e28 and e9 lover which reminds me, I should give you a call regarding a 5 speed conversion on my CSI. Is it worth the money???

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Call us anytime. 01825 732817

  • @laplanetsquad8935
    @laplanetsquad89357 ай бұрын

    Alpina 2.7

  • @pagodacloud2241
    @pagodacloud22418 ай бұрын

    I love e30 sedan. ❤❤

  • @gmsholdings4406
    @gmsholdings44066 ай бұрын

    So wish you could have gave us a 360 degree of the cars exterior and interior, for me personally I would have gone for Alpina 2.2 the b6 would have been stolen... Where can I find one today right hand fairly priced

  • @bennyverrek9522
    @bennyverrek95228 ай бұрын

    M3 EVO2 ❤

  • @andrewbarrett9731
    @andrewbarrett97318 ай бұрын

    Terribly hard. I do appreciate the 4-cylinder car balance (hence my E90 320si!) but just for pure looks, a C2 takes some beating and the add the 6-cylinder snarl.....so, a C2 2.7 for me (even better if a Touring!)

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    We're all quite fond of a touring too!

  • @Tonyk24
    @Tonyk248 ай бұрын

    Such an underrated video and channel. Keep it up with the great content!

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you, glad you enjoy it!

  • @qaisarshujaa348

    @qaisarshujaa348

    8 ай бұрын

    Definitely the icon one & only Alpina B6 the Beast off all daddies ❤

  • @stevengeissler525
    @stevengeissler5258 ай бұрын

    My favorite is the 320is. With the S14 drive train in a 325 sport body, which in my opinion looks better than the M3

  • @3000FAst
    @3000FAst8 ай бұрын

    Great vid #alpina 🤘🏻

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it!!

  • @mosmarb
    @mosmarb8 ай бұрын

    The E30 I owned was a BMW. If I bought another, it would be again. I appreciate Alpina but I don't necessarily want to own one.

  • @priyaagvivekanandsewparsad519
    @priyaagvivekanandsewparsad5197 ай бұрын

    Love the channel Barney and look forward to your videos. I enjoy seeing these old school BMs even the E24s in such excellent condition narrated with in dept history and technical stats. Thanks for a great channel

  • @sajidqureshi2175
    @sajidqureshi21754 ай бұрын

    Gota be the e30 m3 they just look incredible

  • @carlosoruna7174
    @carlosoruna71742 ай бұрын

    A B6 please..

  • @chejlr
    @chejlr8 ай бұрын

    Anybody know the name of the blue color Alpina? Ty.

  • @erezyoal
    @erezyoal3 ай бұрын

    What about the 318is ? It is more rare then most On the e30 and sportier

  • @shindilal3311
    @shindilal331120 күн бұрын

    325i Sport !

  • @Herbie81
    @Herbie812 ай бұрын

    Without a doubt the c2 2.7 alpina👌

  • @foundnotlost
    @foundnotlost6 ай бұрын

    The Alpina's may not be the quickest e30 produced but their engine's are torque monsters and pull like a train, M3 looks the best with it's boxed archer's but have to go with that B6 Alpina. would have them all and more if I could afford them. 😢😢😢

  • @enjoyradiosilence
    @enjoyradiosilence2 ай бұрын

    The ac schnitzer e30 m3 for me!

  • @marcuslee9893
    @marcuslee98938 ай бұрын

    Alpina B6 without a doubt!

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    One of our favourites too

  • @Hybrid330i
    @Hybrid330i8 ай бұрын

    Mine

  • @kelebogilenkosi4989
    @kelebogilenkosi4989Ай бұрын

    I would choose the 325is

  • @robster6868
    @robster68688 ай бұрын

    My local French main dealer has a couple of s/h beauties for sale.2002 E36 m3 smg 85,000 kms for 42,000€ or 2011 E92 Alpina b3 biturbo 62,000 kms for 45,000€ or 2005 m6 108,000 kms for 40,000€ all mint condition. What would you choose?

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    I think we would have to go for the E36 M3, despite the gen 1 SMG gearbox...

  • @robster6868

    @robster6868

    8 ай бұрын

    @@heromotorcompany Sorry I meant E46 but I think you realized my mistake,it’s a toughie sub frame issues aside I think I agree and it will be a rot free car I imagine but that v10 engine though on the m6,the E92 is 2011 though so euro 5 which counts for a lot these days.

  • @philtucker1224

    @philtucker1224

    2 ай бұрын

    I would always have the silver one. The paint finish on mine at just two years old was to die for. I really miss that beauty ❤️

  • @Flordeh
    @Flordeh4 ай бұрын

    M52/ M54 motors make the e30 a delightfully drivable fun to own for a decent price 80's car.

  • @y0057
    @y005713 күн бұрын

    Ma man from Munich legend fame. Got to give it to ya, still dedicated to the e30’s despite the fame of Munich legends and all that, wink wink, lol. Good luck under the new biz brand.

  • @idokwatcher2062
    @idokwatcher20626 ай бұрын

    Narrow body cars will never do when M3 exists. Just like E46. The E36 328is owners got the best deal of all, there is no widebody E36 M3 to constantly remind them of their "lesser" car.

  • @rolkaz1804
    @rolkaz18047 сағат бұрын

    Wo ist der Beste Alpina B7 Biturbo S mit 360 PS und 295 km/h Spitze

  • @stephenedwardsnewell1715
    @stephenedwardsnewell17158 ай бұрын

    The 2.7 for me mate , pure E30 porn 💯

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Manual or Auto?

  • @stephenedwardsnewell1715

    @stephenedwardsnewell1715

    8 ай бұрын

    @@heromotorcompany Gotta Be a manual Geez 💯

  • @victordenolf7128
    @victordenolf71286 ай бұрын

    where is the e30 evo2v🤭

  • @chejlr
    @chejlr8 ай бұрын

    I can't believe that he kept saying Alpina v6.

  • @user-hv2ff8in6t
    @user-hv2ff8in6t8 ай бұрын

    I take it the red sport doesn't do many miles, michelin tyres that look brand new with full tread, but are actually 13 years old 🤔😂

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    You're not wrong! The car is in immaculate condition and hasn't been driven much over the last decade. But, the car has now been sold and all four corners have brand new Continentals.

  • @mcjjordan
    @mcjjordan8 ай бұрын

    B6S… m3 with m30 engine

  • @SeanKGilde
    @SeanKGilde5 ай бұрын

    M3

  • @johnmitchell2269
    @johnmitchell22692 ай бұрын

    An E46 M3 weighs 1,495kgs. An E30 325i would be around 1,200kgs.

  • @MCorrigan
    @MCorrigan6 ай бұрын

    If we are talking modern BMWs I wouldn't touch one.

  • @91drunkenmonkey
    @91drunkenmonkey7 ай бұрын

    1600kg ??? I don’t think that’s correct

  • @christianmarcussen6093

    @christianmarcussen6093

    6 ай бұрын

    1150 kg for a standard 325i.

  • @161BMW
    @161BMW8 ай бұрын

    I would have 325i SPORT with BMW Manual Gearbox. RWD. LSD. Manual. NA I6. No DSC. Has just enough creature comforts like ABS, PAS, OBC. Have a Scorpion exhaust and all the neighbours be so jealous in their financed Audis, BMWs etc while I’m in the mighty E30 driving like the man.

  • @janvanderflier1723
    @janvanderflier17236 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately a lot of talking. Can reed those facts in a book. I would have preferred some unmistakable E30 engine sound. Even the starter would have done it.

  • @497adam
    @497adam7 ай бұрын

    they weigh nowhere near 1600kg

  • @likits1999
    @likits19992 ай бұрын

    Apina is an ugly car. Whats up with all the stripes?

  • @user-sb2uf5mj6y
    @user-sb2uf5mj6y8 ай бұрын

    Great video Barney really enjoyed a trip down memory lane. My immediate boss had one of the first E30 318i models and he thought he was something special until the partner heading the department ordered an E28 M5! I used to go out to meetings in that car with him and I felt a million dollars at 21. Great memories.

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Very cool!

  • @user-sb2uf5mj6y
    @user-sb2uf5mj6y8 ай бұрын

    Great video Barney really enjoyed a trip down memory lane. My immediate boss had one of the first E30 318i models and he thought he was something special until the partner heading the department ordered an E28 M5! I used to go out to meetings in that car with him and I felt a million dollars at 21. Great memories.

  • @heromotorcompany

    @heromotorcompany

    8 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

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