Ally McCoist BACKS Graeme Souness' Claims That 'Snowflake Society' Is RUINING FOOBTALL! 🔥👀
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Graeme Souness has that claimed 'snowflake society' is ruining football. talkSPORT's Jeff Stelling and Ally McCoist have their say!
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Totally agree with Graeme Souness. I remember the ridiculous outrage over him saying footballs a man’s game after a feisty encounter in the Premier League.
It's not ruining football, it has ruined football. Football as a whole has gone down rapidly particularly top level football. Bunch of robots everywhere.
@polreamonn
Ай бұрын
Malfunctioning robots at that.
@davidg7643
Ай бұрын
Make no mistake, Pep ruined football. Brought severe possession play to a game that is best when end to end.
@davidg7643
Ай бұрын
@@clarevoyant6322 I prefer counter attacking teams or teams who play more rock and roll. one team having 80% football makes it less of a game, more of a tactical exercise
@neiloldfield8661
Ай бұрын
@@davidg7643I completely agree I love counter attack football For me when Leicester won the league that year that was my favourite kind of football Full throttle I’m a Liverpool fan and playing a high line leaves us exposed but I love it
@NTL578
Ай бұрын
@clarevoyant6322 Incorrect. What people don't know or have forgotten, is that the first 5 or so years of Spain/Barca was tiki-taka. That was fantastic to watch. Although Barca and Spain continued to be successful for a while after this, it changed from tiki-taka to just heavy low risk, possession at all costs football. That is not entertaining. Effective yes, good to watch, not really.
Spot on in 1980s, was tougher 4 Moore/Best/Maradona/Hoddle/Sir KennyD etc via 1- Nasty studs raked down back-legs causing bleeds & stitches & career ending infections (now vicious stud tackles from behind are banned) 2- 1 sub (vs 7 subs now) 3- 15 man squads (vs 30 internationals at ManC) 4- No air travel & overnight stay in luxury hotels ( Souness drove 6 hrs on a saturday morning to play West Ham or Ipswich or Norwich etc to play em at 3pm then drove another 6hrs to get to bed at midnight with aching limbs) 5- No on-site Drs ( Brian Cloughs career was ended at age 27 cuz it took several days to get an NHS appt - he was on-track to become Englands greatest goal scorer & was better at finishing than Harry Kane or Ian Rush etc) 6- They played on grassless ploughed fields with muddy puddles in autumn & ice rinks in winter. It took more skill to stay upright & walk, than playing full pace, on todays carpets. 7- Weather was colder & windier & wetter, in 1979 there no matches played in January due to non stop snow. 8- Violent fans used to beat up players if they played badly after hooligans got drunk when pubs opened at noon 9- They headed balls heavy as cannon balls which had been soaked in water & mud. .. It killed greats like England internationals Jeff Astle & Cyrille Regis in their 50's. Who Never got to play footy with thier teen grand kids. 99% of UK fans love Souness for surviving his heart attack mostly caused by injuries stress. 10- For Souness to dominate like he did was amazing ! He is a national treasure & should be in charge of a UK team to go to future world cups. Brazil has over 300 million citizens. How can Scotlands 5M compete with that. But we can compete with a UK combined population of 70M..
Welcome to the soft boy era!
@kygodragon4782
Ай бұрын
Soft boy gang. Don't assume my gender tho. How dare you, I'm reporting you for having a opinion on my solid fact that is also a opinion.
It's not just football.. snowflakes everywhere nowadays
@alanfox691
Ай бұрын
I am 42, coming up for 43 at the end of July. When I was 32, I had a stroke it took a hell of a lot to recover from, but I got there, people telling me dont worry if you can't walk again, my balance was affected by my partial sight loose in both eyes, but I put in the hard work got my balance back slowly no it did not just suddenly come back it took about 6 weeks of physical therapy & a lot of hard work buy myself following exercises I was given buy the physical therapist but I did they exercise day after day weekends to Mum , Dad and Girlfriend telling me I was over doing it but I just keeped pushing myself day after day week after week. I also got help from Visibility Scotland had to learn how to scan sight wise it's not easy in busy situations like in Glasgow City centre, shopping centres & at Glasgow Central Station but I get there. I bloody well dont complain about it being to much bloody hard work like a snowflake football player would pampered babies that they all are at the top level. As we say in my family, 💩 💩 💩 💩 happens to deal with it, dont just feel sorry for yourself, deal with it, do something flaming well about it. I would say I have a Warriors mentality I will keep doing pushing myself to one day I drop dead like we all will. Life is for the living let's go & live it to the max we can.
A civilisation built on hobbled boots will fall in silk slippers..
When Villa won the league in 1981 they played 42 league games, sometimes on mud baths, 3 FA Cup games, and 3 league Cup games, and used (if I'm right) only a squad of 14 players all season!! didn't see them moaning!!
Yet the media snowflakes are all criticising Forest 😂😂😂
Ally agrees with everyone.
I think Klopp and Pep complain the most
@stephenelder2783
Ай бұрын
Without a doubt
@6CaptainFalcon9
Ай бұрын
Tuchel also did a fantastic job about whinging about fixtures while having a gigantic squad.
@FreshAlchemy
Ай бұрын
Not really, they just get more media attention. Look at the likes of Chris Wilder, he never stops moaning on and on and on and on. Managers moan at all levels.
@user-pk3zw7mb8w
Ай бұрын
The 90s and 00s had the same problem. Fergie and Jose could whinge the hind legs off a donkey.
If these poor guys cant handle 2 games a week and having to live off the huge wages their on they should stop doing it and get another job.
Don't be successful if you don't want to play loads of games. It's not rocket science
“Legendary pundit”. 😂
This country. These days if you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail.
@englishandy7252
Ай бұрын
Bloody gay space mice ruining this country
@johnhopkinson7573
Ай бұрын
What does that have to do with this video about fixture congestion ?
@james.butler.
Ай бұрын
Stewart Lee great comedian
@andrewcoulson2375
Ай бұрын
I'm English and I'm not about to get arrested for saying so, wtf are you on about 🤷♂️
@dohnjoe4516
Ай бұрын
@@Swan42088weirdo. Not a soul mentioned race. Xenophobe
being paid 10s if not 100s of thousands per week they should be playing every sat over 52 weeks
So much respect for Graham souness. The man is a legend
Last season City's squad was the envy of the world. Two first team elevens were the boast when they were still in the Champions League. They even got rid of Cole Palmer because they had such an abundance of riches. Kevin De Bruyner has missed months of the season, and he's whining about fatigue. Souness is right. Being the best means playing more games.
Spot on Mr Souness
💯 this is exactly why top top managers that try to get a reaction out of you and bring the best out of you have lost their powers! Players can’t handle it generally speaking
As a youth I played for the BB, the school, the Sunday morning team and my youth team plus we trained once per week. I would have played as often as I could and we didn’t have any scientists looking after us, we survived on eggs, beans and chips, meat pies and fishnchips. Our Managers did not have any certification or training in the game other than they wanted to run a team. How the game has changed.
I agree with you two 100% and it’s disgusting 😢😢
Definitely
Agreed, too many people crying about foreigners in this country 😂
so what about these semi pro clubs, where the players work full time everyday in other jobs , building work, office work, etc, why are they not too tired to play, do they complain? no they just get on with it"
@bhuda_finger1004
Ай бұрын
They are knackered and the intensity and pressure is nowhere near the same. If you worked for a company within a larger company and they constantly wanted more from you you'd probably get pissed off too
@alangreenley3257
Ай бұрын
@@bhuda_finger1004 what about when liverpool in the 80,s had to play over 60 games a season, did not moan then" they just got on with it,
@tt99football56
Ай бұрын
They probably were tired & probably did complain to each other, it's just it's a long time ago & there was no social media etc.@@alangreenley3257
@Dead-Ball-Situation
Ай бұрын
@@alangreenley3257 It's a salient point and I often ask myself why they were able to play 60+ games in the 80's. My guess, and it is a guess, is that football today is played at a much higher intensity than it was 40 years ago. For example, a full back is now expected to do much more than defend. He is expected to be a supplementary attack minded player too. So naturally you are going be more likely to suffer burn out than you would have done in the 80's
@Adi-Dassler
Ай бұрын
@@Dead-Ball-SituationHaaland said he couldn’t continue the last(?) game and my gran runs about more than him and she’s 6 foot under.
What’s foobtall?
It has more than crept into society, it has completely taken over it. Why take personal responsibility when you can blame someone else.
I agree we live in a snowflake society, some people love to be offended. It's probably true though, players are being more burned out with the amount of games these days. Look at the injuries, no one thinks the amount of games & now a lot more injury time to could be a factor? Pep knows his team better than anyone & with what he's won in the game, if he thinks some of his players are tired they probably are.
Don’t often agree with Graham but he is spot on
I remember when the same teams went out week in week out, with one sub and the First division had 22 teams. The likes of Man City have big squads full of international players. Too many games? How about cutting out the pre christmas bolloxology in Champions/Europa League and go straight to last 16 knockout stage? - Scrap the conference league altogether. We'll soon end up with half the PL qualifying for Europe in one form or other to play against such stalwarts as Bursaspor and Fc Cluj on an October night - roll on death!!
Spot on
Footballers are the worst of weakness in modern day society their pathetic
Correct. Not just footy. Generation today are lacking somat for sure
The games haven’t gone up same amount as 20years ago wtf r clubs on about
Staunch stuff from the Fat Gardener
The whole country is soft and sensitive
@andrewcoulson2375
Ай бұрын
Give over 😅
@bareknuckles2u
Ай бұрын
The whole country is broke and sliding into poverty
Sports Scientist......reminds me of the little geeks who were called ''Geniuses'' in the Apple Store just cause they could get a stuck sim card out its tray .
Both correct. Too many people who don't want to take accountability for their own self. Too many people who want to censor others because of their hurt feelings. Too many people who have no understanding of the way the world works, wanting to dictate how their fellow people live. And there are plenty of footballers who just see it as a fun job, not a real job, and don't have pride.
Never see outfield players wearing gloves in the 1950/60s etc on the field of play.
@Samweak
Ай бұрын
They’d also not survive 10 minutes playing at prem levels today. They’d be having heart attacks left and right
@johnhopkinson7573
Ай бұрын
Yeah but that shit's minor, does it really bother you that much.
@anthonymitchell8893
Ай бұрын
apt name weak Sam ultimate snowflake how many jabs did you get son ?😅😄😄😃😃😃😃😃🤣🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮😎
You know your getting old when you say things were better back then 😂I’m sure in 40 or 50 years time people will reminisce with their grand children about how football was so much better in the 2020s . The game evolves if we were to watch games from 40 years ago we might see plenty of route 1 and slower players, maybe we might be happy with the brand we have today
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Nah the game today is awful. Multiple reasons for that such as top 4 qualification for the top European trophy and the abolition of the foreigner rule in European football.
@tevildo45
Ай бұрын
Only reason people watch English football is because of all the class foreign players, so you want the champions of Romania in the European cup ahead of Real Madrid and Liverpool
Yes hes spot on
BANG ON 100%
💯 correct
Ally was a bang average player. How would he know.
In their day, did you need to win just about every match to win the league ? There points totals were lower . Plus now they play extra 10 minutes extra time
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Which clearly means that the competition in the league has dropped dramatically when two or three teams easily win the vast majority of games throughout the year. Just like Rangers and Celtic have been doing for decades in Scotland. Try harder >>>
@captainslogcabinretreat
Ай бұрын
That's because top teams refuse to rotate their squads. If you want to compete in four separate competitions (plus the upcoming Club World Cup which City have been quick to sign up for btw), you need to accept that players are going to be knackered. As for the extra 10 minutes, that's because of all the professional playacting and time-wasting that goes on in modern football.
@Devypocalypse
Ай бұрын
Points totals were lower as well depending on when you look because it was two points for a win. Which meant you had to win harder than today because even if you won the points difference would be smaller. Plus that only means the standard of the league is lower if two teams are winning every week. If the strength across the whole league is closer the points will naturally be less.
"FOOBTALL" is a great sport!
Proves Souness is a ❄️ him self. City were complaining about why their game was on a Saturday instead of Sunday when they played a champions league game on a Wednesday. The quality of that game vs. Chelsea was poor because they were exhausted from playing extra time. Proves Souness isn't the sharpest tool in the box.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
That makes no sense. Lol
@peggi18
Ай бұрын
🤦♂️🤦♂️ go back to bed kid
@y2k42y2k42
Ай бұрын
@@peggi18 typed like a truly triggered ❄️
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@oliverplant Not sure where you read me saying anything about any of that? Lol
@peggi18
Ай бұрын
@@y2k42y2k42 bruh your leaving essays not me 🤦♂️
It's crept into everyday life tbf
A lot of this conversation was about mourinho, and i think the special one lost his powers when he had to deal with the snowflake society, before then he would push players buttons and call them out but they responded in the right way
Its true todays football is shocking ,id love to go bck to the 90 and 2000s,to 2010 great times to be a football fan
@united6997
Ай бұрын
It’s a generational thing tho . I’m sure in the 2000s people were saying football was a lot better in the 70s , 80s & 90s
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@united6997 It is not a generational thing. Today's football is dull as dishwater. Every kick of the ball is analysed and controlled by scientific analysis and probability instead of being dictated by natural talent and instinct
@jonnyhull7860
Ай бұрын
@@united6997 80s was decent thou being an 80s baby haha
@tevildo45
Ай бұрын
@jhpfdijtuiweruot Of course it’s a generational thing, lads who were in their 40s in the 80s thought the game was soft, Keegan and Souness mincing about with their manicured perms, whereas lads in the 50s had to work down the mines
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@tevildo45 You wouldn't have lasted five minutes in the 80's with these s-flake tears about haircut fashions
FOOBTALL !!!
This is more of the usual BS from pampered, overpaid prima donnas. In the 1969-70 Season Leeds Utd. played 63 competitive games, in a Season compressed anyway because of the 1970 WC, with a small squad, only 1 substitute could be picked and only 1 substitution made in a game, playing on pitches that were more like ploughed fields than the bowling greens they play on nowadays and playing a substantially more physical game. Oh, and I should also mention that they were playing for slightly less money!
@jeannotschumacher1024
Ай бұрын
1980 arsenal played 3 replays against liverpool to reach the Fa cup final. Lost it totally exhausted against second division west ham. Nobody complained but was it right?
Players now days are much more professional. The games are alot more faster and intense. Mcoist and souness are playing against players who admit they were on the piss all the time, the players now are playing against other players who are super super fit. Its apples and oranges.
@djhp93
Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. The 'they call themselves scientists' comment by Souness is extremely ignorant, and he shows himself here to be of the anti-expert mindset that has been prominent in our society over the last 10+ years. I agree with them entirely that we have a society in the UK which loves to make excuses and lacks any individual accountability, but I do not think these traits are applicable to the extremely high-performing sportsmen that are being accused of such things in this video.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Is "a lot more faster and intense" scientific fact or a personal s-flake feeling? Clue: it's the latter
@ycymrobach9012
Ай бұрын
Rubbish.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@djhp93 Wildly missing the point. He is rightly pointing out that football expertise and experience massively takes precedence over sports science expertise.
@ycymrobach9012
Ай бұрын
And furthermore if a player gets touched today he screams worst than a baby, utterly embarrassing and sickening.
Semi professional and amatuer players can play 4 times a week near the end of the season plus hold down a full-time job. Snowflakes it is Graham.
@Samweak
Ай бұрын
The games are nowhere near as intense and physical as a prem game. We can see this in the FA when a lower league team will play a prem team and gas out inside the first half whilst the prem team hardly break a sweat.
Not just football everything wokeness and dei is killing everything.
@waxmandr
Ай бұрын
What is "wokeness"? Define.
Great insightful analysis from a couple of whinging dinosaurs.
@SpeccyHorace
Ай бұрын
"snowflake" 2015 called for Graeme and Ally, it wants it stupid terminology back.
Souness for PM 😂
FOOBTALL
Souness 💯 Facts
Far too many women in men’s football now. It’s soft and weak. But surely the answer of too many games is too stop touring all over the world pre season. That might help…
@waxmandr
Ай бұрын
Lol. More than half them women could eat you for breakfast soft lad.
Joey barton was correct ,haters hate!!
@therecanbeonlyone801
Ай бұрын
About?
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
@therecanbeonlyone801 look it up. I'll get deleted if I add any further Just with the snowflakes
@tevildo45
Ай бұрын
It’s true, look at the reaction over a bit of purple on the England top, snowflaking all over the place
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
@@tevildo45 🏴 LEAVE ENGLAND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT ASSHOLE 🖕🖕
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
@@tevildo45 if you dont like England F OFF out of it then you Axxhole
Bless them, over paid and playing on a carpet these days. Go back to the 70’s and 80’s playing on a mud bath then they can complain about it being tough and getting a bad bounce😅
@tevildo45
Ай бұрын
The 80s lads were girls. Go back to the 40s, 12 hour shift down the mine then ya had to play football
@mickharper5070
Ай бұрын
@@tevildo45 I’m not that old 😂
I remember Leeds playing four games in eight days the last one was against Wolves and they lost 1 - 0 which ultimately cost them the old first division championship , but you take it on the chin and move on. Pep Guardiola needs to stop whinging loo at the size and quality of the squad he has, cry baby.
@tevildo45
Ай бұрын
Ye Leeds famously took it on the chin and never complained about it. They literally still sing about it
@clarkefraser920
Ай бұрын
agree...too many players now a day are wimps and paid far too much money
Well said guys, and over paid snowflakes🤗
To many games? Come on stop moaning about it . Teams have big squads and I'm sick of hearing about it. You don't hear Doctors or nurses or the average Joe bloggs moaning about having to go to work every day. Modern day footballers are big girls blouses.
FOOBTALL??
I suppose Ally would have them down 5 pints before a game to show how hard they are
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Men in the past drinking beer after playing a game of football made you cry. Lol. What a s-flake
ManC is charged with 114 FFP CHEATING offences. They shud be treated harshly by the fixtures list & refs until they are forced to sell to honest owners. ManC shud be relegated to tier 5 & banned from inward transfers for 5 years. CHEATING RUINS THE GAME & turns fans to follow NFL & CRICKET & and RUGBY, which do not tolerate cheating & financial doping as per Mr Wenger.
“Old men yell at clouds” vibes
@Devypocalypse
Ай бұрын
Proven winner who was respected by everyone voices opinion based on experience and facts is now old man yells by internet clown who hasn't done any of the things previously noted. Utter piss wipe.
The crazy amount of injuries teams have had this season must just be a coincidence then?
@jfbfitness
Ай бұрын
They don't rotate, a lot of players don't do extra work to look after themselves
@timedwards5734
Ай бұрын
We've seen an increase in ACL injuries this season, i believe that the modern football boot with blades rather than studs is playing a role there, the leg isn't planted into the turf, it slips due to the over flexibility of the modern boot. Other injuries could be down to the lengthy VAR decisions, where players almost need to warm-up again. And if you play 10 minutes of injury time, something that we've seen happen many times this season, there is bound to be more injuries, that's just logical
@GIBBO4182
Ай бұрын
@@timedwards5734 💯
@GIBBO4182
Ай бұрын
@@timedwards5734100%
@creasicle
Ай бұрын
Can't reason with idiots like Souness
Dinosaurs
Man who cried about the colour of a flag calls everyone else snowflakes
Souness is becoming such a generic, salty old gammon.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
That is a hilarious s-flake thing to be crying about. You are deeply offended by his age and his skin tone
@creasicle
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot haha triggered much? I think you're the snowflake in this scenario princess 😘
@dohnjoe4516
Ай бұрын
Lol tf? He never even mentioned his skintone. You anti-woke warriors always frothing at the mouth to mention race you claim to not care about. Aimless bunch
@tevildo45
Ай бұрын
@jhpfdijtuiweruot Why are you so offended when someone criticises Graeme, why does it trigger you so much
@McMac11
Ай бұрын
Oh no! You did a waycism 😭😭😭
It ruins everything, so that's hardly a revelation...
Souness and Jordan are the biggest snowflakes going! Look what happens when you point out how bad refs are, Danny Murphy called refs incompetent and Jordan started crying!
@Jporter196
Ай бұрын
souness rent free he's a legend who always upsets the snowflakes from every fanbase with his facts about their lazy players and useless teams
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@Jporter196 Agreed. From a lifelong Utd fan from Manchester
@oliverplant
Ай бұрын
@@Jporter196Souness’s opinions are like blindfolded Russian roulette. He just says things and then when he eventually gets something right he brags about it but ignores all the nonsense that he spurts
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@oliverplant And the s-flakes of the world obsessively cry when he says something that they don't agree with. Well done for proving the point
@oliverplant
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Souness doesn’t give facts he gives opinions. Congratulations on proving you don’t understand the difference between a fact and an opinion.
White, Jordan, Souness, McCoist, Stelling, it's like Talksport's version of Last of the Summer Wine, talking about how everything was better in the olden days. Hilarious. Remember, McCoist said he couldn't play a game of football because he was upset about the death of Diana, snowflake indeed.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
And yet you obsessively watch them and cry about their words instead of tuning into a modern day pundit channel
@tevildo45
Ай бұрын
Haha he cried about Diana, ally is a snowflake
@kino6445
Ай бұрын
Talksport is still the best sports radio so worth listening to. However I agree that it tiresome listening to souness mcoist and white harking back to the good ol days. Move on dinosaurs
@kino6445
Ай бұрын
Last of the summers wine 😂😂😂 Perfect
@Leesy7NUFC
Ай бұрын
And here’s one snowflake
Does "snowflake " mean just going with "feeling" rather than facts .??
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Partially, yes
@james.butler.
Ай бұрын
No.
@themoststupidpersonwhoever4891
Ай бұрын
Who knows?
I remember Steve McMananam saying his father used to do 12 hour shifts manual work So to say I'm tired after playing 3 games in a week would be an insult to the working man.
@ShedRule1
Ай бұрын
3 games in a week at the elite level would be tiring though surely, if top players are over worked that only diminishes the standard of the game overall
Snowflakes or LGBTQ/ woke overlords? Say it with your chests talksport
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Football has become too politically aligned and politically correct. It used to represent the working class man who wanted to get away from politics. Now it represents politics that wants to get away from the working class man. IMO, the whole culture of football is slowly falling apart. Can't do this, can't say that. Race to the bottom on who can employ the worst pundits just to tick a box. It's awful.
Rangers Radio
Souness is literaly being a snowflakes tho 😂