Because Bonham, Page and Jones were superior in every way to Baker, Clapton and Bruce. They were jealous; simple! 💁‍♂️

Every band hated Led Zeppelin because they came in like category 5 hurricane and blew everyone away. All of them were jealous.

@1956tojo

Ай бұрын

I agree.... It's like they didn't have to do the years of trench work to earn their status... They pretty much took off right out of the gates and went balls to the walls to the top....

@dangroat4438

Ай бұрын

I too agree but a lot of it was due to Peter Grant. He was a no nonsense manager and steered them in the right direction. He made them a lot of money while he was managing them and changed the ways of the management business.

@davemanone3661

Ай бұрын

Well said!

@ritchiepeyton

Ай бұрын

Disraeli Gears and Blind Faith were the next albums I bought after Led Zeppelin's debut. Humble Pie in the Summer of '69 were the first band I heard being called a supergroup. Followed shortly after by another who also released their album that August, Blind Faith. In October, Led Zeppelin II was released and it kinda blew the other two out the water. Nevertheless, As Safe As Yesterday Is, Disraeli Gears and Blind Faith are three of my favourite albums.

@paddymeboy

Ай бұрын

@@1956tojo Four metaphors for the price of one! You're giving good value.

Same with Townshend. They hated the pure fact that Zeppelin were far more successful and made far more money.

@scottramirez49

Ай бұрын

Absolutely right

@oldman6487

Ай бұрын

very true

@wassupnomesayin

Ай бұрын

True. Pete couldn't get over the fact that the record company refused to release "Can't Explain" unless Jimmy Page played guitar on it. Pete simply couldn't play well enough to get it right. Pete would never acknowledge this.

@crazypainter56

Ай бұрын

ERIC BURDON also did not care for Led Zeppelin

@nickmorelli832

Ай бұрын

Smh sour grapes till death... what happened to that famous “British reserve”? Not these Fn ego maniacs...

To be honest, Ginger Baker hates everyone. Or in the interviews, at least he pretends to hate everyone😂

@stephenwerner1662

Ай бұрын

The only thing I like about Ginger Baker is his drumming skills. What an a-h***

@kurtsaxton823

Ай бұрын

He's almost like Keith Moon in an interview once, closest thing to a compliment you'll ever get from Ginger Baker

@zackzallie8735

Ай бұрын

Even his own son hatred him showed how much of an a-hole Ginger was to every single human being. He was a prick as a person but a god in the drums.

@ice-iu3vv

Ай бұрын

i knew him personally in the denver area late 90s-early 2000s. the exception to your comment would be charlie watts. he spoke VERY well of charlie, but towards other rock drummers, he would say "if it aint got that swing, it dont mean a thing". he agreed with me that mitch mitchell was underrated and just plain good, but he was not impressed with 2 of my other favorites (neil peart and stewart copeland). i agree with ginger that bonham is overrated, and ginger and i were in agreement that there is nothing special about keith moon, except the halo effect that dying young brings. the thing he loved about charlie watts was that he showed off the band, and the music, never showing off his own technical abilities. when i pointed out that something very similar was true of ringo starr, he wouldnt agree, and it was a low unintelligible grumbling, whatever he DID say about ringo. it cant be a coincidence btw, that the beatles and the stones both went so far with drummers who didnt show off. as watts said, and ringo's playing echoes, "i show off the music, not the drums".

@1956tojo

Ай бұрын

Everything I ever heard or read from others that spent considerable time with and or around him absolutely paints a picture of a self tortured individual that made it very difficult for people to be around...

Zeppelin was a game changer

@charlesharper2357

Ай бұрын

And Cream is merely a footnote.

@johnthegreat

Ай бұрын

@@charlesharper2357 your absolutely rt

It's sad to watch very accomplished musicians bitch about the similarly accomplished musicians that followed them.

@colico14

Ай бұрын

I agree.

@charlesharper2357

Ай бұрын

Led Z wasn't similarly accomplished...they were far superior with a greater repertoire. How many people could actually name 3 of Cream's songs? And nobody could touch Plant's vocals.

@nicholasprotz4297

Ай бұрын

Clapton is a pompous twat. Baker was just a horrible human being. I don’t believe I’ve heard Robert, Jimmy or JPJ slag anyone off.

It seems to me that Cream turned to sour grapes.

@1956tojo

Ай бұрын

I honestly believe it was bitter jealousy of how ridiculously Zeppelin sky rocketed...

@phatphat7089

Ай бұрын

Yogurt maybe?

@charlesharper2357

Ай бұрын

Sour Cream

@vandolmatzis8146

Ай бұрын

@@charlesharper2357 damn,that was what I was going to say,oh well,great minds.

@vandolmatzis8146

Ай бұрын

cream got whipped?

They should just keep their mouths shut and play, they were all great and played their own style you can't compare Dazed And Confused to White Room both so different. I never liked bands trashing other bands it shows arrogance!

@darrelavery9809

Ай бұрын

Yeah, Joey Ramone was really bad about that.

@qam2024

29 күн бұрын

@@darrelavery9809 The Punk rockers of the late 70s were nasty to their predecessors, but they are now mostly long forgotten while Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd live on. But no one is worse and no one is more pretentious than the original early Grunge rockers, they bad mouth everyone who came after them as sell outs and think they are God's gift to music even though they too are now mostly forgotten.

If they had a concert in their heyday and Led Zeppelin is playing across the street, I'm going to see Led Zeppelin.

@williamcabell142

Ай бұрын

Baker is an egotistical jack ass! 🤷🏻‍♂️

@jamesnash6101

20 сағат бұрын

Ya..... Cream and The Who were kinda in the middle of the pack, when it came to bands. They weren't at the bottom or at the top, like Zeppelin. They were at the level as ZZ Top, Earth Wind and Fire, ELO, Pink Floyd. Even though Floyed made the greatest album ever produced. It was the rest of the albums that sounded the same.

Cream saw themselves as the original band who were going to go down like a lead Zepellin and cause carnage in the still teeny pop world of the 60s , even their name was a provocative nod to their sense of unrivaled superiority, Then not long after they formed and were about to unleash themselves on an unsuspecting world, Chas Chandler brings Jimi Hendrix to London and their impact is stunted before it hits the ground. I don't think they ever got over Hendrix stealing their thunder, certainly Ginger Baker who always tried to dismiss Hendrix as little more than a showman. Probably Zeppelin were the last straw as they were the band in the end who Cream seemed to envisage themselves being, a kind of Beatles for young people growing out of 60s pop towards harder edged music.

@ImYourOverlord

Ай бұрын

And Cream with a vastly inferior guitarist.

Led Zeppelin was more dynamic with influences of folk and rock n roll They were more dionysian

@1956tojo

Ай бұрын

I think they were more European than anything..........................................ahem.. yeah..

@vandolmatzis8146

Ай бұрын

They were godamn Rabelasian.lol.....ahem.

@AliKHAN-mq8br

Ай бұрын

They were "Boom Boom" ....ahem....+spicy Singer!!!( Not more!)....ahem.....

@fortunatomartino8549

Ай бұрын

@AliKHAN-mq8br Nah Explain Battle of the Evermore? All of My Love Many soft songs

@vandolmatzis8146

Ай бұрын

@@fortunatomartino8549 all of my love excellent ballad.u right.

The pure ego of these people, to think that the fans are stupid or ignorant, just because they like music that they hate.

LOL. Ginger Baker makes Jerry Lee Lewis and Gene Simmons appear jovial and easy going.

About a month before he dies my husband and I spent an hour visiting with Jack Bruce . He was warm and very kind and very funny. Rest in peace Jack.

I am hard core Black Sabbath but I respect and admire Led Zeppelin very much. They also had something special and made a huge contribution to the artform I love. The members of Cream need to get over themselves and give credit where credit is due. After all, they were the epitome of 'flash in the pan'.

No matter how old I get, and no matter how many successes or failures I have, I hope I never get to be like Ginger Baker

Zep didn't "take up" from Cream, they "took up" from the Yardbirds.

Hilarious to hear Cream thinks Led Z was imitating them...

@edwardelliott5756

Ай бұрын

Actually my impression was that Liz’s first 3 albums were a continuation of cream. But after that I completely lost interest in their music. Way too weird. I’d rather listen to Van Halen than the later LZ.

@charlesharper2357

Ай бұрын

@@edwardelliott5756 I'd take Led Z any day.

@danield1718

Ай бұрын

​@@edwardelliott5756NO Led Zep 4 ,Physical Gaffitti or Houses of the Holy? You are.missing out.

@lyndoncmp5751

Ай бұрын

@edwardelliott5756 Led Zeppelin's peak was album 4 to 6. You missed out 😂

I never heard Led Zeppelin talk bad about other bands. I could be wrong.

@ImYourOverlord

Ай бұрын

They were usually above that level.

@qam2024

29 күн бұрын

Not Zeppelin, but Robert Plant did say a few years back that the only reason the Eagles are still touring is because they are bored.

Wow. Jealousy. The green-eyed monster.

Led Zeppelin has stood the test of time more than Cream. Sour grapes by three guys that couldn't hold their band together

@DavidGiguere-sx7hb

Ай бұрын

They couldn't hold it together because they were three colossal douchebags

They hate them because Led Zeppelin surpassed them!🎉😂😂😂

@encoreunefois1X

Ай бұрын

Seems like you got them all worked out. Sure they surpassed them in sales and popularity, but that certainly does not prove your point. You may prefer LZ over Cream, but that does not prove your point either. Elton John has out-sold Johann Sebastian Bach and whilst he is undeniably great, does that mean Elton is a better composer than Bach? Coca Cola is more popular than any number of other drinks from Dom Perignon to Brunello di Montalcino to Sprite. Popularity does not always equal best quality.

@user-gl5kj1fm5x

Ай бұрын

300 million in album sales is how many times sour creams?

@ozzyk63

Ай бұрын

@@encoreunefois1X I personally don’t care who CREAM hated and was jealous of himself. Their time is up. And the time has come for the Jimi Hendrix Experience and a great band like Led Zeppelin. And also Pink Floyd and many others. CREAM members couldn't come to terms with this. This is their stupidity.

@encoreunefois1X

Ай бұрын

@@ozzyk63 It sounds like you're making some assumptions. The cream members have an opinion on this and they're giving it. You and many others are jumping to the conclusion that this must be because they hate LZ or are jealous or even stupid as you said.. This assumes that the Cream members lack intelligence and have no integrity. If you say so. I like all the bands you've named and I listen to LZ more than Cream, but that doesn't mean Cream isn't the better band. I personally think in terms of musicianship Cream is the better band but I enjoy more of LZ's catalog. Higher sales figures do not a better band make, they don't prove anything either way.

@austonboston4361

Ай бұрын

​@@encoreunefois1X Except that Zeppelin were better than Cream 😉👍

Jealousy, period. And Clapton has a history of being a jerk too. Just ask Valerie Bertinelli, EVH's ex, what she thinks of EC.

@darrelavery9809

Ай бұрын

I love Eddie's response to Clapton - " Forget that teabag."

Eric Clapton is THE most overrated guitar player of all time. They may have been first, but Cream had nothing on Led Zeppelin.

@nickmorelli832

Ай бұрын

Wow I really gotta fn agree. I mean he had his early run w blues breakers n cream but very short lived n yes in fact very overrated!

They barely liked each other let alone anyone else. Love their music though.

@darthscipio5289

Ай бұрын

BARELY? I THOUGHT THEY HATED EACH OTHERS GUTS; THEY HAD GINORMOUS EGOS, EGOS THAT DIDNT JUSTIFY THEIR TALENT AS A GROUP;

@jeremycagle19

Ай бұрын

@@darthscipio5289 Agreed!

wth does cream have to do with lz? nonsense.

@user-jf6gw6ys5i

Ай бұрын

Nonsense indeed

@ImYourOverlord

Ай бұрын

A bit.

Here's a question: if you're ten times BETTER than the other guy, how come you're not ten times BIGGER? Why is Zeppelin still actual and Cream now rests in the past? And also, as a member of the public, I just love to be called fucking dumb by a musician who relies on me buying his crap to make a living. Happy I was too dumb to buy his music in the first place. saved me cash. Here's a trick for all of you musicians out there; if you don't respect your public, guess what they will do with you? Interesting document. Thank you for your work.

Page and plant wrote a lot of brilliant songs, and so did Pete Townsend,and so did Jack Bruce.

Both good but Led Zeppelin was better.

@Joe-ve8yw

Ай бұрын

Zep was way better. Zep was very likeable and free. Jimmy was out of control great

The clash of egos. That's all this is.

It's not about which group was better. It's about what the music from both bands can do for your mind.

Zeppelin was the greatest band ever. Cream couldn't hold it together. Jealously is my bet.

@margaretedwards1366

Ай бұрын

I hated Cream. Three guys ,all soloing at the same time sounds like random crap.Which it is. They couldn't groove to save their lives. Enormous egos , which is also why they talk shit on Led Zeppelin . Arrogant and unprofessional .

I would take Led Zepplin over Cream any day.

@francishughes2016

Ай бұрын

Yes, So would most music fans.

Oh please... Old slowhand couldn't lay a finger on Page

Jimmy just keeps smiling and playing his guitar.

So the roots of Led Zeppelin were Cream? Haha

Led Zeppelin blew away The Who & Cream ! Zeppelin # 1 🤘🤘🤘

@massimolombardi1367

3 күн бұрын

No.Who live sets in 1969/70 over by far Zep.

Jealousy, that was the real problem

Jack Bruce was still slagging Zeppelin off on their reunion shows that were running at the same time as Cream---"Zeppelin are CLAP!"🤣🤣🤣

Jealous?

Ginger Baker cracks me up with that "I've been smoking for 60 years" voice.

That's not jealousy. That's envy 🙂

All lovers of music should definitely check out the documentary Beware of Mr. Baker. A total hoot.

You think The guys in cream would have loved for bands like Van Halen and metallica and aerosmith etc….to speak so admirably about them the way these bands talk about Zeppelin? Of course they would. Isn’t it interesting how Zeppelin’s competition at the time had plenty of negative comments, while the next generation from around 1973 to about 1995 showered them with praise.🤨 doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out, just a good ear for music. Pure jealousy. Not even going to come on here and say they were the greatest, but they might have been. One thing is for sure, Nobody sounded like them. Not even close🎸

Sour grapes, Clapton included.

@alandesgrange9703

Ай бұрын

Clapton is/was boring. Yawn.

Jealousy kills

BEFORE THE INTERNET, GET THE LED OUT WAS A COMMON RADIO PLAY OF 3 ZEP SONGS ACROSS THE USA AT 7,8,OR 9 OCLOCK PM NO OTHER BAND OR PESON HAS HAD THAT, WHEN ZEP TOOK TO TOURING THEY WOULD TAKE INFLUENCE OF EVERY COUNTRY,CONTINENT TOWN ETC THEY VISITED ,ZEPS BEYOND BROAD SPECTRUM OF STYLE IS UNMATCHABLE,

Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands, I'm happy they took some songs and made it there's, where are the other songs now, give glory to Led Zeppelin

I could never get past Robert Plant

The difference here is that Creams make a few good tunes, where as Zeppelin has made close to 100 great tunes!

@michaelsears8159

Ай бұрын

100’s🤣 😂

@massimolombardi1367

3 күн бұрын

Zeppelin 10 years career,Cream 3 years career.Which stupid comparison is?

@watchluver

3 күн бұрын

​@@massimolombardi1367for sure.. but they started the shit so zeppelin spanked them.

Baker over Bonham? Ummmmm,......NO!!! No way. Not a chance. Not in this world. Ask the best drummers out there. Case closed.

They call it jealousy. I love Zeppelin, but I could not cop Cream.

They always fall back on that old comment. “We were really a jazz band.” No you weren’t.

Agreed, they were just jealous like all the other bands of that era. Interestingly enough. Clapton and Page are my two favorite players that I grew up with!

Ginger seemed like a lovely bloke! 😳

@67marlins

Ай бұрын

If you admire envy.

@robertranger6612

Ай бұрын

😅

Wow. Talk about sour grapes. LZ wipes the floor with Cream.

Zep did create the best RnR song to date though…

Jealousy is a bad look even for Bruce, Clapton and Baker.

Baker was a legend in his own lunchbox

Usually when you boast that you're better than anyone else, you're covering for the fact that you really aren't. Zeppelin quickly mimicked Cream in their very earliest days just to gain popularity, then they mastered their genre and a vast spectrum of musical exploration that Cream simply didn't have the depth and breadth to do. Bruce, Baker, and Clapton appear to have acquired a terminal case of Sour Grapes. It is embarrassing that, like jealous teenagers, they're unable to accept their plight as limited musicians who couldn't find the integrity and character to pay tribute to their obvious superiors.

Wow! I can't wait to hear these! Unreleased LPs of Ginger Baker's Superior playing. I've searched KZread. I haven't heard what he's talking about yet.

Embarrassing stuff from the Cream 'man babies' Clapton, Baker, and Bruce. Zeppelin ruled - and still rule - and they couldn't deal with it.

Envy is the ugliest of sins and so hard to see when you're the one in it's sway.

Just because you don’t like someone doesn’t mean jealousy. Cream have no reason to be jealous of Zeppelin or any band.

@alexhoffam4170

Ай бұрын

Cream were extremely jealous of zeppelin.

@francishughes2016

Ай бұрын

@@alexhoffam4170 Especially Bruce in regards to Plant !.

@alexhoffam4170

Ай бұрын

Cream have every reason to be jealous of the greatest band that lived.

@MillerGenuineDraft1980

Ай бұрын

Your funny

Of course there was someone else Ginger hated: Jack Bruce....and vice versa. Two of the best bands ever imo. I don't care what they thought of each other.

One could get the impression that Led Zeppelin was a football team who won most of the games when reading through the comments. As if musical quality could be measured in sales figures. As if the purpose of music was about being "higher, bigger, faster" instead of touching your soul and changing your life...or broaden your consciousness.

@brianbishop4753

Ай бұрын

I have to agree. They have two different sound and to me, appeal to two different audiences. (Though I know a lot of people like both, myself included) I like a lot of different styles and types of music. I find very few artists where I like their whole catalog, it’s about how it makes me feel or makes me think and even relax.

Zeppelin will always be the GOATS! The Kinks😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

If Cream had had more to say musically, they never would have said goodbye. A dissertation on on the music you don't like and why it shouldn't be liked isn't worth one good tune.

The Battle of the Roaches fight the Maggots! Bwa ha ha!

I saw LZ in 1969, they were Ok. I prefer Bonham’s drumming over Baker’s though. Also Peart over moon. Woulda been cool to see Cream!

Cream more like sour cream that has definitely gone off which has definitely gone off Led zeppelin was definitely much better and much bigger sour grapes 🍇 lasted longer and definitely more relevant must be turning in he's gravy Mr Baker

Nearly 40 years ago, Ginger appeared at a drum clinic put on by the Long Island Drum Center. When an attendee asked him his opinion of Eric, he said, "Jack 'n I coulda made a real musician outta the bloke if he wern't such a bleedin' WANKER!"

I used to admire Cream, but not so much anymore. Three musicians who are full of themselves.

@matthewashman1406

Ай бұрын

Most are. It's part of there nature

@jamesnewberry1191

Ай бұрын

They are full of something.

Cream ❤

What I heard was a lot of ego. As I understand it, that's why they only lasted 2 years. No of them could get their egos in check.

I personally don't care what Eric Clapton cares or doesn't care about.

Sour cream!

Musicians are a strange lot. Regardless of genre, they are extremely critical of one another. Here are some examples from long ago: “Wagner has beautiful moments, but awful quarters of an hour.” - Rossini about Wagner. “After Rossini dies, who will there be to promote his music?” - Wagner about Rossini. “A composer for one right hand.” - Wagner about Chopin. “Greatly overrated.” - Stravinsky about Vivaldi. “Handel is only fourth rate. He is not even interesting.” - Tchaikovsky about Handel. “I’ve been to the theatre a few times and heard Wagner’s Walküre, from which I carried away memories of two or three glorious minutes and a whole ocean of boredom and utter emptiness.” - Tchaikovsky about Wagner.

I'd like to go back in time so to lock Cream and King Crimson in a room and let them sort out which band is the more supremely arrogant.

Glad to see a Trump commercial here!!! Yeah, Ginger swings and tunes his drums better than Bonham but Bonham is Hammer of the gods so give him that. And to me Led Zeppelin is Hard Rock in the exact same way Hard Bop is to Bebop. Hard Bop in jazz means slower rhythms and more emphasis on the blues as opposed to bebop's determined focus on virtuosity. Hard rock is harder, often slower, and more blues based. Unfortunately it also tends to take the roll out of it, hence the need for The Rolling Stones and AC/DC. I don't think there's a band that swings more than The Rolling Stones. And I have a theory for that: AC/DC and The Rolling Stones have stand-out rhythm guitar aces. That takes some of the weight off the drums but it can't take the whole weight like The Who. 50's rock and roll everything was swinging, I think. Everything that made it. When the form was pure and the intentions were pure and everybody just knew if it went or didn't. Bad asses like Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry. There's even a song "It Don't Mean a Thing If It Ain't Got That Swing." It's a jazz song, admittedly, but jazz understands swing- well, it probably invented it!

You’d struggle to find any lists out there that rank the best ever drummers and see Baker in the top 5. Same with Clapton and guitarist.

Sour Cream

Because JEALOUSY is a terrible thing! You gonna compare Clapton with bloody Jimmy Page? Oh hell no...Jimmy was sooooooo much better!! And Jimmy was a producer! Snd Bonham was THE HAMMER OF THE GODS!!

Bass and drummer in cream both had their kids disowned them- good job

Well then, I must be dumb, because I think Bonham blew Baker away.

@francishughes2016

Ай бұрын

Jeez, Without half trying ! !

@nicholasprotz4297

Ай бұрын

Gingers in hell, still moaning that Bonham comes higher on all lists.

Jealousy?

Plant got it right.

If Cream were so concerned about Led Zeppelin, perhaps they should've stayed together instead of bitching about them. I do find it ironically funny that one group of white English dudes complaining about another group of white English dudes when, in fact, both groups of white English dudes got their main influences from mostly black American dudes.

Cream was great but i prefer zeppelin.

Baker was a brilliant drummer, just like Mitch Mitchell in subtleties. Bonham was Bonham. Jack Bruce was nowhere near Plant or, for that matter ,Daltry. My opinion only, as I'm a total Zepp follower. Cream or the Who don't even hold a space in my music collection, which ranges from Jolson to the Zepp and back again. Individual tastes are what make the music worthwhile, and I cannot be ar==d with someone bitching about other musicians. Doe's any drummer or fan bitch about Baker? I think he was brilliant, but he's not on my music shelves due to the cr=p voice of Bruce, or their compositions. (My opinion again, like it or lump it, I don't mind or care.) Have a good day, all.

@kenm7179

Ай бұрын

Same here. I have two or three early Who songs in my collection. Nothing by Cream or Clapton (unless he's on one of my two or three Yardbirds tracks). And my tastes run from Cab Calloway to The Kinks, to Sandie Shaw, to The Toy Dolls. And if I like something, it's never because of the drummer, lol.

@robertalford2257

Ай бұрын

@@kenm7179 That last sentence is so true. My exception to that is Chris Farlowes 'Out of time'. The drummer got me to buy it.

Ginger Baker's jazz upbringing shines through in his playing. Look up Bonhams description of his own technique and keep an eye on jpjs expression, it's hilarious

Pfft sorry not even going to watch it cuz i already **Know** for a **Fact** **MyBelovedOtherWorldlyMagicalLedZeppelin** & **MyBeautifulJimmyPageMagicalMysticalGeniusWizardBabe** are THE **Best** of the **Best** period the end anyone who has bad things to say about them are just **Jealous** pure & simple

Bruce & Baker. Good, but really a dime a dozen. Crapton, the most Overrated Guitarist ever. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹

Cream was jealous because Zeppelin was the cream

The fact they named themselves Cream as in “cream of the crop rises to the top” should tell u all u need to know about these egomaniacal narcissists!

Jealous

Arrogance is ugly

Envy

Zeppelin blows Cream away! Cream was really good. But Led Zeppelin is fantastic. Screams albums all sound similar. Not 1 of Zeppelins albums sound like another? That is musical creativity and genius. Nuff said!!!

I love Bonham's power and sound and Paige's riffs but they are kind of right I would take a drummer like Bruford who really could swing over Bonham any day ironically the best mesician in the band was probably JPJ who never gets that much credit.

@RichardCThurston

Ай бұрын

Saw JPJ at Big Ears last month and he’s a very interesting musician. The other guys in Led Zeppelin were rock stars. An entirely different animal.

@nicholasprotz4297

Ай бұрын

You wouldn’t take bruford in to play Zeppelin tracks.