ALL-NEW Santa Cruz 5010 | First Ride | 29er Defying & Famously Fun
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Technical Editor In Chief, Robin Weaver, got to ride the bike ahead of the launch and had plenty to say about it. Voiced by our very own Senior Technical Editor, Tom Marvin, this video includes all the things you need to know about the new model plus all important first ride impressions.
The new Santa Cruz 5010 is longer and slacker than the previous generation but, perhaps surprisingly for 2020, it hasn’t given up 27.5 inch wheels.
Santa Cruz have methodically been working their way through their line-up, giving nearly all of their full-suspension bikes a complete makeover. After two years since it’s last spruce up, it’s now time for the 5010 to have a refresh.
While it’s still built around the smaller, 650b wheels, or, as Santa Cruz put it, “the fun-sized wheel size”, the geometry and frame layout are totally different to the 5010 launched back in 2018.
What do you think the new Santa Cruz 5010? Is it time we all rode 29ers? Or do you still ride a 650b? Let us know what you think in the comments.
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What do you think the new Santa Cruz 5010? Is it time we all rode 29ers? Or do you still ride a 650b? Let us know what you think in the comments!
@jooncash8844
4 жыл бұрын
27.5 still lives and probably won’t ever die but 29er bikes if designed well can be as playful as any small wheel bike
@adammccarthy2157
4 жыл бұрын
It looks lovely
@leonh619
4 жыл бұрын
@00:11 you already said what we expected to hear about any new mountain bike...
@adammccarthy2157
4 жыл бұрын
I think ride whatever puts a smile on yer chops .
@JETJOOBOY
4 жыл бұрын
26
SC 5010 definitely does not need to go 29, They have the Tallboy for that. Still loving my V2 5010 btw!
Omg stop with 29er thing. I mean it’s not like Santa Cruz doesn’t have the Tallboy, Hightower and Megatower if you want a 29er. SC has done it right. A specifically designed bike in 3 travel amounts in 27.5 and 29. No one bike that will take both but is not designed for either. So please, stop trying to get rid of 27.5. Plenty of us love them.
@philmean5603
4 жыл бұрын
@DADventureTV: Agree. Most of the journalists' comments these days seem to be substituting their own opinions for public opinion. "Shouldn't every bike be red? I mean, that is EVERYONE'S favorite color, right?" What I would love to see, but never have, is an honest review of all of the negatives of 29ers (and there are many) that somehow seem to be omitted in every review, whether it's praising a 29 in. bike, or criticizing a 27.5 for not being 29.
@maxwagner3351
4 жыл бұрын
I ride a 26 lol
@jakewaggoner4196
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing when he said that. A little bit of marketing common sense goes a long way.
@trentvlak
3 жыл бұрын
Typical meat head bike journalists - duuuur, 29er, slacker, steeper, lower, longer durrrr.
@dadventuretv2538
3 жыл бұрын
@@trentvlak almost like it’s scripted...🤔
I just got a 2022 and my friend kept pushing me to get a 29er. Looking at the comments and knowing most people are experienced riders that know what they're talking about, I'm sticking to the 27.5. Thank you everyone! Safe travels
I don’t get the “everyone wants 29” thing. Much prefer a 27.5 to wagon wheels.
@ethanbenton6676
3 жыл бұрын
@Stuart S What 29ers have you ridden?
@LRF49
3 жыл бұрын
They're superior for grip and speed. But, if you just want to play around, then 27.5 is good enough.
Is the narrator speaking inside a cupboard?
@benasquith26
4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best he could do at home because of lockdown
@bikeradar
4 жыл бұрын
We are indeed doing what we can during lockdown, but fear not! We are currently working on Tom's audio setup and will be sounding less cupboard like in no time.
@PeakTorque
4 жыл бұрын
Porta loo
@mintymilkk
4 жыл бұрын
@@benasquith26 I mean would it be that hard to go into the office and pick up a decent mic?
@Cj-nd3nv
4 жыл бұрын
lol
I think it's cool, that SC are still comitted to 27,5. They still have a full line up of both 27,5" and 29" bikes.
I've ridden a 26" Heckler for years and still love it.
Definitely my next bike frame. I've been waiting for this one!
LONG LIVE 27.5!!! 🙌🏼
I think it will be my next bike after my Giant reign advanced 1 from 2015. I love my reign, but I feel 5010 will be much more fun and in raspberry color! can't wait!
Yeah they need a 650b model that can still rock 👍
I like the 27.5 inch bikes, because they are much more fun and playfull ^^. i would´nt switch to 29er
@timc4258
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I actually own the new Tallboy and the V3 5010. I prefer my 5010 over the tallboy for fun factor and playfulness. I take the tallboy out for big / long days. But if I had to pick, it would be the 5010. It puts a bigger smile on my face.
@ethanbenton6676
3 жыл бұрын
have you ever ridden a tallboy or an optic (2 very playful 29ers)
@simeonkneisel8086
3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanbenton6676 i have tried the tallboy before i bought myself a 5010 yes. That´s much more fun than the tallboy
Great video and great bike, keep it up 😍
@bikeradar
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Stay tuned for more impartial reviews!
im really thinking about picking up one of these and making it a full on park bike since I work at Highland Bike Park
Good review, thanks!
@TeamCykelhold
4 жыл бұрын
It's not a review. It's a first ride impression and a list of specs.
Perfect, very nice color
I went from 29 to 27.5 then back to 29 and now back to 27.5. 27.5 = the fun and playful size 29 = the faster and better roll over size Choose a size and be a dick about it
Not every bike needs 29 inch wheels damn it.
He sounded like 27.5 will be gone! Long live 650b!
I ride a 2013 model 5010 that I bought brand new in 2020. When it comes time to replace this bike, I’d probably buy another 5010. Yes, it’s that good.
I know everyone’s having to make do but I would recommend doing something about where you record audio. There’s loads of stuff you can do from hanging heavy blankets, to DIY foam enclosures around the mic.
@bikeradar
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nelson, thanks for the comment - we are in the process of getting our audio setup sorted!
@nelsonglover3963
4 жыл бұрын
BikeRadar no worries, love the content, sorry if I came off as picky
Very very nice I like it.
Looks fun
Has Tom secretly died and his voice digitally synthesized to keep that BikeRadar vibe going, or is it a more sinister Transcendence, type thing? We love you Tom and the irk the price mark of all Santa Cruz bikes brings you😁💜
I bought the first 29er in 2011 with the Trek Marlin Gary Fisher. I'm 207 cm tall. I am waiting for the next wheel size up ;).
And may he never change
Which offset has the fork.? I have traveled the fox 34 from my 5010 v3 to 140mm and would swap frames if possible.
Can you please do a video on Tom’s audio recording setup? Thanks for the vid, great channel.
I was wondering when the 5010 would get the design change. Looks good. I hope you guys get your hands on the new Ibis Mojo 4. More interested in that
i absolutely like it! it's like a fun size bronson! 🤙
@ethanbenton6676
3 жыл бұрын
but with much more modern geo, similar size bronson has like 20mm off the reach
What would be awesome is if they would be able to put the adjustable rear. Where you could run 27.5 or 29er. Some other bike brands have that option. Never owned one though. Would love to someday.
@dadventuretv2538
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve ridden a number of them. Not nearly as good as a bike specifically designed to run one or the other.
@henryhild7404
4 жыл бұрын
Gerald Powell you don’t get the point of what this bike is
Hi - what bottle cage (with a mini tool) is shown on the 5010 in the video?
It’s a good one
Can anybody tell the whole santa cruz lineup and what each bike is made for?i want to know what bike is the top of the line enduro
Looks great. Still love 27.5, works for my trails (I’m not a 29’r hater either). That said, a Bird Aether 7 looks just as good as this and is way less money for great spec (alloy frame, but don’t mind that). Ibis launched the new Mojo, now this, the Aether, Scout...27.5 ain’t dead! #ridewhatmakesyouhappy
As what people predicted when the 12s Deore was announced, Santa Cruz indeed spec one of their bikes with Sram NX.😅
More Mullets appearing....A hail 26 Inch...😎🚴🏻🇬🇧🌍...on my GT STS WITH SHIVERS and lots of HOPE...😀
Why you make it sound 27.5 is so bad?
Where did you get the water bottle that matched the loosely blue color of the bike?
Just picked up the 2018 model, very similar ride on discount.
Nice
5010 as a 29 is called hightower? why everything needs to be same same, variety is good and something for everyone
@EILevine
4 жыл бұрын
Nah it's a tallboy
@lifeontwowheels3964
4 жыл бұрын
@@EILevine what ever. But main thing is tha there is 5010 29er on the lineup allready.
is it more of a teal blue or baby/royal blue? i want teal like the bronson!
Will the 2021 Santa Cruz bikes have the new SRAM 520% 1x12 gear range?
I wipe fork and shock stanchions after every ride. looking at these new SC bikes, can you get to clean shock at all without removing it? looks kinda tricky
@ejhayes76
4 жыл бұрын
Me too...wondered the same.
Still riding 26 inch
@farrier53
4 жыл бұрын
Me too (Scott Spark RC). AWESOME!
Was thinking of buying Diamondback 5C... should I buy this bike or??!
Nice first look at new 5010! It’s really hard to tell the difference between all of Santa Cruz’s bikes now at first glance. P.s I hate to be that guy but the ‘s’ in ‘debris’ is silent 😂
@Mockle07
3 жыл бұрын
I came here looking to see if I was the only one that was annoyed by “debriS”! 😂
narrator sounds like he's about to fire the death star.
@bikeradar
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, very good Tim C! You'll be pleased to know we got Tom a new mic, so no more standing by for any star destruction! Thanks for watching from your friends at BikeRadar.
@timc4258
4 жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar lol. It was a very good review and good video!
where you riding dowies at FOD ?? great video tho.
Also when does this bike release?
What other bikes compare to this bike?
Is this the voice of number one off-road xxxtreme BikeRadar MTB rider Tom Marvin?????! It would be cool to see a race down Spooky Woods between him and long distance tourer Felix Smith. Would Marzzochi Bombers be a good choice for this hardcore trail? Thx, Jim. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
So I really like the changes made to the bike. It is a lot closer to how I setup my v3 with a shorter stem and wider rims. The audio in this video is pretty bad. Get this man a USB microphone and five minutes of setup with GarageBand.
A 29er 5010 would kind of be a tallboy
Why get rid of 27.5" bikes? It's better to give the consumer the option, IMO. I'll always prefer the smaller wheel size. Plus, Santa Cruz already has the Tallboy for people who want a 29" trail bike. Anyways, if I had the money for it, I'd be looking at this bike as my next irresponsible purchase. It looks sweet as hell.
Great review. I've got an absolutely pimped 2019 5010cc .xtr di2 factory 36 chris king hope etc. I spent more than a fortune on it . I can finally eat again. Lol. If the V5 is a 29r... I'd think I'd actually go down to SC headquarters and slap some1 lol I can't stand 29rs but I believe in to each there own. I bought into the company brand with the frame lifetime warranty. I pray 🙏 I never hurt my v3 5010cc.
Soooo are we going to ever finish the bikes of the year series for road, trail, enduro, etc? For Enduro the author was saying there was a Canyon Strive video as part of the series, but it still hasn't come out yet. I don't understand what you all are waiting for with all of the bike of the year series collection, just put them out already.
@bikeradar
4 жыл бұрын
You are right the Canyon Strive was part of our video series but unfortunately we weren't able to get this to you before the country went into lockdown. We still very much want to make this one but it will likely be later in the year. Thanks for watching! - BikeRadar
@Hardcaslte
4 жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar I see. I guess I figured you all record the main video around the same time since all of the reviews show multiple bikes on the trails riding together. Just figured it was up to editing at this point, I'll be looking forward to the Strive review. And now the YT Izzo maybe for the 2021 Trail Bike group.
wow...is this enduro by specialized? Yeah I also agree with sentiment of people here in comment section tired of 29 shilling. We want to have fun riding bike 29 are not helping with it.
This was nothing like a bike radar review
@bikeradar
4 жыл бұрын
This is different to our usual reviews but it was the only way we could get this news up in time for the big reveal! Stay tuned for future reviews though, we have some great videos in the making!
@HamzaFaruqui
4 жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar cool cool. Glad you guys aren't changing it on purpose. If it ain't broke, why fix it.
A more stable 5010. Seams pointless. (v2 owner)
Yep I was just thinking what Santa Cruz needs is a 130mm 29er and they did not do it... bankruptcy is right around the corner...😉
@bikeradar I really hope this is not the way Santa Cruz is starting to go by getting rid of the alloy option. Some of us poor folk cant afford to pay over $4000 for a mountain bike.
@rafaelalbertotorres8070
4 жыл бұрын
Santa Cruz usually releases their Al versions at a later date.
@MrBallsOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
They didn’t do an aluminum version because of poor sales of the aluminum v3 version but if the demand is there they will and most likely do an aluminum v4 in the near future.
I love my V3 5010, but boy this new one is a pig. 31lbs for a carbon 130mm travel $5k/$6k build? And I’m pretty sure Santa Cruz themselves said an upper link is better suited for a short travel bike.
@ejhayes76
4 жыл бұрын
I have the V3 X01 build with 2.6 tires. My bike is 1.5 lbs lighter than the 2021 X01 build, and I have bigger tires. It is basically a Bronson/Nomad/etc with less travel.
@bryanthomason270
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the "new" 5010 has gone the way of the hightower and other models in the SC line. Damn, they want $5k for the c carbon GX bike with heavy wheels and a heavy alloy bar and entry level suspension. I have a 2016 OG hightower, 29lbs with pedals and cage. Demoed the new Hightower, at 31+ lbs, and decided my bike rode better and was more fun. The new lower link feels like dead wood unless you get the cc version frame with the nicer rear shock, which costs way too much.
Bike manufacturer should make the xtra small size available for 26 wheels without too low bb height for small people like me
@toofarpunk
4 жыл бұрын
Buy a Juliana
How much that
Could you mullet this bike?
@cyclicalcycler993
4 жыл бұрын
Yes defo...
@5tr4nge75
3 жыл бұрын
Could you? Sure Should you? Definitely not, why ruin a playful bike by making it into a steamroller.
Am i seeing this right or whenever i search this bike up it says it costs £1000!!!!! FOR A SANTA CRUZ THATS A BARGAIN
VO from inside a bathtub?
Luke I am your father
29’s are for old Dads. I mean you might as well buy a Specialized if you’re into 29’s.
Re new geo totally missed the growing head tube lengths too!!! Seriously how is no one picking up on this? There is literally no one doing this until now... Its always the same bloody reviews its like these editors don't actually do any real analysis on this stuff. #keepthereachditchthespacers
@justinwbohner
4 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, and their ht lengths were already big for the industry in the previous version.
Wheel size don’t mean much.
Costs way more than 5010 $
Hired a robot to do commenstery?
Give us the Santa Cruz 5029 with 130 rear 140 upfront!
Sounds like is was recorded in a bathroom stall.
Checked MRP. Its Fucking $2,699 My Two Well Functioning Kidneys Couldn't Even Afford That. (We Can Get Two 2 Wheelers For This Price) PS: Bicycle > Motor Scooter Edit: Checked Price For A Kidney, $5000 For One, But Its Not Worth Kidney. PS: Its A Joke
I still love my 2015 5010 CC. Better geometry.
Voice over recorded in a coffee can.
1:25 "debriss" it's debris, pronounced: deb-ree
Is nobody going to mention the insane price tag? I would never pay more than 3000 for a bike and even that is hard to justify
@justinwbohner
4 жыл бұрын
My Mach 6 frame was $3800 otd with tax and worth every penny.
@greghenderson1362
3 жыл бұрын
OTD tax included prices make awful comparisons - taxes vary a lot!
Starting off with the wheele size... shitty first look incoming.
Great bikes santacruz but overly expensive. Very few will buy this bike.
@adammccarthy2157
4 жыл бұрын
roi k. It's actually reasonable now compared to other brands and the warranty is second to none
@benasquith26
4 жыл бұрын
Adam McCarthy 🤨 reasonable- many other bikes are much much cheaper for the same spec and often better geo. Santa Cruz does have great warranty though
@dadventuretv2538
4 жыл бұрын
Ben Asquith only if you are comparing to direct order. Compared to other bikes sold through a dealer- Yeti, Pivot, Ibis, Trek they’re all within a 100$-200 of each other.
@maximilianoquinones8236
4 жыл бұрын
Yet they still always sell out of stock lol
@MrBallsOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my cc x01 reserve. They’ll sell plenty. First run is sold out. 2nd run will be available in a month.
Inthink it is too expensive
@toofarpunk
4 жыл бұрын
Then buy a Yeti.
I hate 29. and I don't care about just speeeeed.
No aluminium frame 👎
What about these crap trails you are riding on, not worthy of the SC 5010 honestly... A CX bike would be more suitable!
does anyone else agree that this bike is uglier than other santa cruz offerings?
@adammccarthy2157
4 жыл бұрын
Andy A .........nope
@TPV07
4 жыл бұрын
@@adammccarthy2157 I think the curves and lines on this bikes is beautiful, I love how the middle section is so compact, balanced.
@dadventuretv2538
4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@j.l.5966
4 жыл бұрын
I like the aesthetics of the older 5010, specifically the V3 in light blue or purple.
@Tony.795
4 жыл бұрын
@@j.l.5966 Aluminium Bronson V3 in teal looks best in my opinion.