15:05 He's talking about scaling "laws" not "loss". These are often used by scientists to relate the manner in which one quantity grows as another changes. The simplest scaling law might be that the volume of a sphere grows as the cube of its radius. Here, they are talking about how FSD improves with compute time and dataset size.

The 12.3 update was the most notable shift in FSD since I've owned my car. Where I used to be on edge when the car was driving before because it would randomly do weird shit sometimes, it's been pretty flawless so far and I've tested it in rush hour traffic in Denver. This makes a huge difference in the utility because now I feel like like I can relax and let the car do its thing. Really excited to get 12.4 and 12.5

I can imagine the time when you take your Tesla to the service center they saw off your steering wheel and put a cap on the end😂

@Tubeytime

2 ай бұрын

and they take comically oversized scissors to your driver's license

@hankkingsley9183

2 ай бұрын

How about when the system sees you have outstanding parking tickets or a warrant, locks the doors and drives you to the police station?

@Teabahgeue

2 ай бұрын

What about the scene in I, Robot where Will Smif don't trust no AI and takes manual control?

@alexp.6406

2 ай бұрын

@@hankkingsley9183that would be the end of the company, be it Tesla, ford or any other manufacturer. As the purchase comes only with underlying thrust of no privacy invasion.

@JohnVanderbeck

2 ай бұрын

@@hankkingsley9183 Maybe don't have outstanding parking tickets?

Seeing AI driver for the first time is like seeing Darth Vader with the helmet off...

@Malteroehlmann

2 ай бұрын

Just more pretty

@wheelofcheese100

2 ай бұрын

😂

The #1 reason I been paying attention to FSD is because I think robotaxis will be a great solution for people with disabilities. I don’t know how long I have until my disability prevents me from driving but I hope robotaxis will allow to still be independent and travel around town. I’m sure there are others that would like a robotaxi to have some freedom.

@sudeeptaghosh

2 ай бұрын

Do you know how many breadwinners die everyday on the road all over the world ?

@craigfreeman9280

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, it is a scary number, if FSD can stop even half of those deaths … 🤔

@Teabahgeue

2 ай бұрын

@@sudeeptaghosh Your point?

@wizzyno1566

2 ай бұрын

​@@sudeeptaghosha lot less than the number of breadwinners who will lose their livelihoods if Robotaxis become real.

@eugenes9751

2 ай бұрын

Uber exists today. Imagine being disabled and your robotaxi makes a mistake... like driving into a river.... Or just getting into an accident where the battery is punctured and ignites. Huge gap between "Supervised FSD" and actual "FSD".

I have 12.3. It is a whole nother level. We use it 95% of the time. No exaggeration. The only time i have to take over is at the destination. Thanks Elon Bob

@aguyfromnothere

2 ай бұрын

The GPS needs to be more precise. Also sometimes it goes to the address of a location not the parking lot...that was my experience doing the demo. But it was good enough that I am probably getting a tesla JUST for FSD.

I can't deny that each version is a step forward, and when I compare to where we were in the very early limited beta when I got in, it is almost jaw dropping. That said, I really feel like each version is two steps forward, maybe even two leaps forward, but with a step back. Ever since v12 came out for example, speed control has been atrocious. Lane selection is a lot better, but I frequently find ego being stupid about how it changes lanes and sometimes it just leaves me sitting across two lanes! I'm also still really concerned that they are overfitting to certain areas. I often see videos like these here and others on YT where it does amazingly well, then I go out in my local area and rarely can I go even one drive without having to intervene or disengage. It STILL can't handle roundabouts properly. I swear whoever trained it is one of the 80% of Americans that does not know how to legally drive a two-lane roundabout in the US? (Hint it is NOT the same as most other countries) and v12 refuses to properly slow down when the speed limit drops, unlike previous versions. Also still doesn't recognize school zones which seems like a huge omission for a version that is being pushed more to the public with the free trial and reduced monthly cost. I live in a community with a lot of Teslas - 6 just on my block! - and I've had more than one neighbor tell me how they had to take over in the school zone and they weren't expecting that. Me personally, I just hate how it handles intersections. I get that its better to start cautious, but really it is so careful and so slow in intersections that it drives me and passengers nuts. I frequently get honked at for being so slow. Overall I feel Tesla has a rather solid base and needs to spend some time focusing on important problem areas. Things that are causing disengagements, like speed control, lane drifting (yes that's back) lane straddling, and driving situations like round abouts that it can't handle properly should be the focus.

Telsa should have a discount for FSD for Tesla using an owner's car for compute, as it would be costing the owner electricity. Would be a good incentive.

there are some moments in the subtitles you've added where you've written "scaling loss" when the speaker is actually referring to "scaling laws".

@AIDRIVR

2 ай бұрын

oops

@pixlshock

2 ай бұрын

hello Flee

@Flee_VR

2 ай бұрын

@@pixlshock 0_0 hello

Thank you. Your vid was the first time I was introduced to v12.

At 8:04, is the car reacting to the man and the dog? That looks like great foresight and awareness.

Thank you for doing this! Love the subtitles

Fantastic work !!! I could not understand some words back in the life meeting so thanks for subbing it all.

Ashok said “conversations we have had with OEM’s” as in plural OEM’s…wow

@philbear2185

2 ай бұрын

A car company which is behind and loosing market share today, should licence fsd, and regain interest. Maybe Honda, or Toyota, or a smaller one, like Mazda.

THIS WAS EXCELLENT - great work thank you . I have sent it to 3 doubter friends and they ALL get it now .

love the hard work man, this video is well edited!

Great summary and love your content and take on FSD. Thanks for sharing this discussion from earnings call!

And less people will die!

@Plague_Rat778

2 ай бұрын

Ehh, I feel like unless more than half the driving population is autonomous it will still be just as dangerous... And honestly I do NOT want to live in an I, Robot esque future where I cannot drive my own vehicle.

@chrisvinciguerra4128

2 ай бұрын

@@Plague_Rat778​​⁠the data that shows it’s less dangerous is based on real world data, which is going to be situations where autonomous cars are interacting with human drivers the vast majority of the time. So it’s less dangerous already in the context you mentioned.

@OneInTheMosh

2 ай бұрын

Fewer

@hankkingsley9183

2 ай бұрын

That is one drawback of the system being a lot safer than humans, indeed.

@onesteeltank

2 ай бұрын

​@@hankkingsley9183woah so edgy bro

please cut together a video where you are following a Waymo for miles. The critics are always comparing Tesla to other AVs and saying lidar, radar, etc. A "side by side" would showcase it's not necessary.

@Tubeytime

2 ай бұрын

the "stalking" mode is in the next update

@calofc01s

2 ай бұрын

Honestly they’re basically the same. Waymo has an advantage due to HD maps so it can do more aggressive movements.

@hankkingsley9183

2 ай бұрын

@@calofc01s Yes but now take that Waymo car and drop it somewhere it doesn't have a map for, and see how well it does compared to a Tesla.

@ExecutiveZombie

2 ай бұрын

What is this? 👀 The Cold War? 🤨 🤡

@calofc01s

2 ай бұрын

@@hankkingsley9183 I was literally in the 1st wave for FSD and was a beta test member for Waymo. I’ve seen them both improve. Given the same geofence constraints, Teslas just can’t comprehend certain signs or lane types. It also drives like a grandpa on the most aggressive setting. It also makes stupid lane change decisions. Obviously these will all improve over time. Waymo driving is basically superhuman compared to the “human-like” Tesla driving. Tesla also suffers with any ounce of rain.

Thanks for the videos I appreciate the editing work!

Incredible - thanks for this cut! Was very helpful :)

Thanks for this. You make the best of the best videos about Tesla. Thank you!

Dude, Love your videos. Keep them coming...❤❤❤

lol @ elevator example 8:10 "shear somebody in half between floors" very macabre but accurate. BTW: do NOT search for "elevator accidents" nor "escalator accidents" or you'll find yourself walking up and down 8 flights of stairs without reservation

@davidcadman4468

2 ай бұрын

Would that apply to sliding or self opening doors?? What are we going to do when we get the wrong connection, when we have Neuralink in out brains, connecting us to the Supercomputer Hive, and we get routed to the wrong person.... ooopsi... LOL

@prospekt1909

2 ай бұрын

No, it's not accurate. People sheared in halves because of tired elevator operators was never a thing and especially not the reason we don't have operator supervised elevators today.

Nice! Thank you for this video!

Thank you for putting this together, listened in real time but worth review.

Just bought model Y , Using FSD as much as I can , the Tesla map got the speed limit wrong in so many places , also while making wide turns it crossing the yellow marks . It still struggling in Unmarked surfaces.

"didnt release something that didnt look like the prototype" cybertruck tent:

Great video. Just a tip related to your comment on effort editing this video. There are now AI driven software that cuts silence, uhm and ahs, and automatically produces text. I use Descript. It would save you lots of manual work.

Thank you so much! Highly appreciated

@AIDRIVR

2 ай бұрын

thank you for watching!

"hardware 5 should be in cars by the end of next year" if I had a Tesla for every time Elon said "by the end of next year" ... 10:38

@digitaldreamer8637

2 ай бұрын

Yeah and when it's in the car, you need to wait 2 years for them to gather enough data to retrain the system for HW5 or HW4.

Yeah I’ve got a coffee bet with Yaman that by the end of the year we’ll hear the early steps of Ford Licensing FSD haha. I share your excitement. I’ve officially crossed over 100 actual customer rides on v12.3.4 and it’s at 85% success currently.

Great interview, the idea of adding my Model S to the fleet when I want like an AirBnB?!?! I was not expecting that...its genius!

Fantastic! We are living in a exciting times.

Nitpick, at 0:26, Tesla have already shared screen mockups for a ride share app during Autonomy Day, and they looked different from this one.

Thx for the video after it I bought 15x Tesla stock 😅

Thanks for making this video. A lot of important insights indeed!

Subtitles are awesome!

Great video.Very relevant way to consume that content. Thanks!

It's amazing to watch your AIDRVR FSD footage while listening to Elon and the team discussing developments 🤩

Great summary!!

I like the way you talk. Your voice has a nice melody to it. It's like rhythmical and you hit the notes perfectly.

@deltaechomusicnh555

2 ай бұрын

Bro? Wtf

That was impressive 👍 and thought provoking 🤔

Already fsd is awesome. It can do 95+% of my drive without any issue anywhere. It’s even caught some turns that I thought were wrong until I passed it. I just wish they would reduce the nag already. It’s good enough and has a camera watching the driver, it doesn’t need me to put pressure on the wheel every 20 seconds.

nice summary!!!

So excited about FSD. I have been on FSD since 2021. Recent V12 is so awesome and to think it’s only going to get better. 🎉

@hankkingsley9183

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I can't wait to relinquish control of my life and personal autonomy to the robots, sounds awesome

@gdok6088

2 ай бұрын

@@hankkingsley9183 You would have got along great with the original Luddites.

@MrRedstoner

2 ай бұрын

@@hankkingsley9183 I mean ideally ya'll would fix your public transport network, shared steel on steel beats even EVs by a landslide, but I suppose that's not the American way so high tech it is.

Apart from obvious differences between countries, such as road signs, left or right hand driving, roundabouts, there are also almost unwritten rules. For example in the UK we 'create' extra lanes even in small roads to let emergency vehicles through or flash our lights to tell others we are giving way to them. So will FSD have to be trained separately for each country to pick up on these? If travelling from the UK to the continent will FSD drive like a Brit, then switch to driving like a Frenchman or an Italian within those countries?

16:58 it's cathy wood and not kathy wood. just btw. thank you for this video. love ur content

@AIDRIVR

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the correction!

Do you think v13 will be e2e for highway too or it could be in v12.x ?

I’m stoked for the future of autonomy

V12.3.4 - Big improvement. Three takeaways I noticed in City driving: 1). Accelerates a bit too fast from a Stop sign/light unnecessarily. This eats up battery faster. 2). FSD uses Brakes more than Regen. I know to let regen do its thing where FSD waits too long to start braking so uses brakes to stop. 3). Is not pothole or manhole aware, some are quite deep and FSD just runs right over them. Not great on suspension or alignment.

As far as taxi service goes I wonder if say you are out with friends and they decided to go somewhere and you're not up to it can you summon your car from home and have it pick you up?

@imthinkingthoughts

2 ай бұрын

Yeah you could!

It's a beautiful FSD interface.

Wow, this was really inspiring.

I’ve only ever experienced FSD during this free month. I’m optimistic it will get better but I wouldn’t think of paying for it until it does. I didn’t realize how much I subconsciously avoid potholes, manhole covers, etc. until my car was hitting them constantly. Also there needs to be a way to just completely switch off lane changes that aren’t needed for navigation. I really got sick of trying to figure out why my car was actively trying to get in the wrong lane when nearing a turn. Also if I have it in “chill”, that means I don’t want it tailgating the car in front of me(something that would reduce my driver score if I was driving). I’m sure there are plenty of other nitpicky things i’m already forgetting but I wasn’t as impressed using it as I was watching your videos.

I hope that the distributed computing thing is going to be both opt outable, and compensated for (on the user's side)

It’s happening!

Very cool format

10's of millions of robotaxi's are going to need automated human-less charging

Did you have any experience with FSD and mirrors on narrow sharp corners or some interesections? Does it know how to use those?

thank you for the subtitles 3:45 did you use an AI tool to generate the subtitles automagically, like on Adobe Premier?

@AIDRIVR

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I then corrected many of them and somehow undid all my corrections and didn’t notice until after releasing and getting comments about it lol

@Beakerzor

2 ай бұрын

@@AIDRIVR thank you for your hard work!

@1519Spring

2 ай бұрын

​@AIDRIVR That must have been so frustrating that your corrections were lost! Nevertheless, thanks for getting this out to us!

Tesla is killing it! Great job, team :)

It's only going to get better and it's already bloody great

How are you doing the FSD capture and overlapping?

Thank you so much, that was awesome! 😎👍

@AIDRIVR

2 ай бұрын

thank you for watching!

they sound desperate like we’ve all heard the “tesla isn’t a car company” speech. we get it your stock price is down

Thank you!!

Needs more training on the roads in Napa and Yountville California, but still very impressive.

Hope you can do more drives in downtown pittsburg.

@1519Spring

2 ай бұрын

@aidrivr lives in the Bay Area (CA), but other teslas will be driving in Pittsburgh. Lots of autonomous vehicle research there, as you probably know, thanks to CMU.

Thanks!

@AIDRIVR

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

There's a button on the bottom called 'cc', tried pressing it?

Many thanks for this huge work ! You know, a few month ago I was very positive about FSD for EU market because regulatories were on the way but a recent bad news was giving me more negative feeling: Tesla should not answer to some requested EU rules ... I hope that it will go because it's currently so frustrating to have bought FSD a year ago without the paid service. So the car cannot be sell at the right price and I think that the law should allow reimbursment because service is not there anymore. I know it's not Tesla fault but Tesla sell something that does not exists.

I do agree that they should use idle compute time in cars and offer it as a service, BUT if they do then like Robotaxis, the owner should have the ability to add or remove the vehicle from the system and get paid for those times.

For robo taxis, hygiene is a concern for me. Should add digital noses to detect funky smells. They should also add weight scales, to make sure that the car weighs the same as it did before the previous passenger wrote it as it does when I pick up my robo taxi.

@imthinkingthoughts

2 ай бұрын

Easy to install internal detection cameras, and post ride smell rating. The car will be autosent to be cleaned if detected to be dirty. The big concern is privacy, or complete lack of privacy rather hahaha

@NickRichards

2 ай бұрын

@@imthinkingthoughts yeah I privacy I would probably be okay getting up if it were a taxi A amount of fartiness indicator would be nice though when choosing an unoccupied taxi. Looking forward to our future of choosing how much fart I'm willing to suffer for what surge price. 🙂

I’d be curious and cautious on the distributed computing will come to be. Is it going to be in the fine print of FSD? Will it be an opt in with payout you receive from Tesla? Only time will tell I suppose. I sure wouldn’t want to drain an extra 2% per hour for Tesla gain but would be happier with an extra $20/day after electric costs.

Did you notice that he gave away the battery size for the new models (50-60 kilowatt hours of compute) at the 28:41 mark of the video

I agree, Ford is the most likely to license FSD. I think the deal will be Ford gets the insurance opportunity and the data is shared.

I just wonder how they navigate the charging aspect of this. Obviously if someone is wanting to rent out there car but they’re away, or they’re at work, keeping the car charged is going to be an issue and I doubt Tesla would pin that on the user of the service. They may need a service attendant at supercharging stations just plugging in the cars and unplugging them lol.

Thank you

@AIDRIVR

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Could you please send me the script of the conference or put it in the description please🙏🏻. I'm doing a university project about Tesla and its revenues. I will also analyse the future of Tesla (as it is the main factor for future revenues) and it would help a lot. Thank you🙏🏻

I really hope that the car owners will be compensated for that compute power their cars are providing for Tesla.

Just imagine if Tesla were to add Robotaxi to their existing app on Aug. 8th to give Uber a run for their money! With Tesla Insurance and a ride share function added, it would allow any Tesla owner to participate in the Robotaxi adventure! How is that for a new advertising plan? Just like the Uber phone app, people would add the Tesla app to their phone which would absolutely raise the user's awareness of the Tesla brand. That would actually be the Final Piece to the Robotaxi Puzzle!

This is so freaking cool!

A well deserved sub and like from me - thank you 👍

The „Auto“ in Automobile😏👍🏼

I would love to see a Knight Rider edition of Tesla with voice control and all in a couple of years. Would be insane and funny

@3:15 bwhaha you had better get that cold looked at lolol

Confused about the AWS part.... what inference would they be running on the idle cars? Inference for what?

@michelangelobuonarroti916

2 ай бұрын

Listen again. They gave examples of what.

@ben_sch

2 ай бұрын

@@michelangelobuonarroti916not helpful dude. You could have provided some examples but chose to be condescending.

@ben_sch

2 ай бұрын

Check 25:28 for more insight

@The_TermiGator

2 ай бұрын

Folding@home in your car

2:00 I can't tell scale? is that the size of a candy bar, or a football stadium?

@imthinkingthoughts

2 ай бұрын

Same i want to know. Need a banana for reference

@Beakerzor

2 ай бұрын

@@imthinkingthoughts I googled it, each segment is the size of a house closet, so we looking at like 9 closets side by side

@imthinkingthoughts

2 ай бұрын

@@Beakerzor awesome thanks for this. in the middle between a candy bar and a football stadium hahaha

The distributed compute thing is kinda strange. If you buy a computer, the OEM doesn't get to run a workload on your machine. I get the business evaluation of it, but if I had a Tesla I would not want my car doing anything when not in use. Maybe if it was converted into some sort of energy credits for their chargers, or some other form of equal exchange.

@gdok6088

2 ай бұрын

Why wouldn't you want your car doing anything when not in use? It's a waste of capital investment. That's why airlines try to maximise the number of hours their planes are flying, because they are expensive pieces of kit that shouldn't be sitting idle. And yes, you would get paid for allowing your car to bee used for compute, otherwise there is no incentive for the consumer. I think Elon understands incentives.

@Jaryt

2 ай бұрын

@@gdok6088 They made no mention of that in the call, so wasn't sure about whether there was an incentive program. Obviously no one would want a company they bought a product from using their electricity if they weren't getting >= amount of the expenses returned.

@The_TermiGator

2 ай бұрын

I like the idea of it and hopefully it will be an opt-in setting

wow great job!!!!

Problem with Tesla’s thesis: It’s also obvious to everyone who’s tried v12 that the camera placement, camera quality and weather conditions will stop the dream from becoming reality anytime soon. It’s frustrating that Elon/Tesla seem to keep their head in the sand rather than fix the obvious shortcomings. I think they could be the ones to dominate but they refuse to admit the emperor has no clothes

@Zedus-rl9hp

2 ай бұрын

So you mean that several cameras (with different possible UV filters) that are constantly analyzed in parallel have less insight than a person who can only observe one direction at a time?

@TexCritter2002

2 ай бұрын

It needs some means to clean ALL the camera lenses, as well. Getting tired of fsd beeping at me every time it rains.

If I purchase a Tesla vehicle today, can I easily swap out the compute in a couple of years or do I have to purchase a new car?

Funny how Elon says, “Understand it shouldn’t hit things no matter where the car is…” YEAHHH SUREEE, what about all the FSD12 Wheels that have been curbed??? What about that ELAN???

This paradigm is already in use millions of hours per day: Commercial aviation is Supervised FSD with pilots acting as the supervisors.

@eugenes9751

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, there aren't many pedestrians, or road signs, or other drivers, or things to crash into in the air, are there? Autopilot goes in one direction, at a set speed and altitude, in empty space, this is not even remotely the same.

yeah. Pump worked again. Let's see, if they deliver this time.

0:30 the cybertruck?

As a computer scientist I don’t think they’ll solve autonomy in the foreseeable future. You need AGI for that and that in itself is very far away from even being conceptualized.

Will the Robo-Taxi have a panic button for passengers when FSD gets itself into a jam?

@johanvts

2 ай бұрын

Yes

Did I hear "hoard", as in 2nd mortgage triple down on TSLA? 3:10