Honestly, the AI getting a spare is more impressive than a strike.

@haskeymorrison

8 ай бұрын

uh huh

@cargumdeu

8 ай бұрын

I was willing that ball on

@helloofthebeach

8 ай бұрын

It mainly knew how to try for strikes, probably because it had way more opportunities to attempt them and the reward was greater. My guess is that the algorithm would figure out getting spares eventually. It'd just take a lot longer, both because of fewer opportunities to learn and because it would always be in competition with continued improvement in getting strikes. A perfect AI would never need to bowl for spares in the first place.

@AdamWood

8 ай бұрын

You have no idea how big of a problem that is. If it does one thing so perfectly that it never gets to experience anomalies. That's an inherent problem with fixed data inputs from simulated environments. That's why Tesla is using customer driving data to train their AI, the real-world data is extremely varied, potential inputs are limitless. They are teaching it the entire visual human experience and letting the NNs figure out how to navigate those experiences as safely as possible. It will be awesome to see the final NN in place, planning and control. Exciting.

@Nyerguds

8 ай бұрын

It's simply not trained to handle incomplete pin sets. Since most of its throws are strikes, and they normally get rewarded more, it probably doesn't find any real value in training that specific rare scenario.

I'm going to have to try that "throw ball and immediately faceplant on the floor" technique next time I go bowling.

@b2stud

11 ай бұрын

Record it please

@realElectroZap

11 ай бұрын

you HAVE to upload that PLEASE

@Martcapt

11 ай бұрын

Don't forget to use the elasticity of your spine.

@donutchan8114

11 ай бұрын

Don't forget to add the little swimming on asphalt move

@elio7610

11 ай бұрын

It seems like a perfectly fine technique for a single throw, it just impairs your performance for subsequent throws.

The Wii Bowling imitation was immaculate. This entire project is immaculate. I can't wait to see more from you!

@b2stud

8 ай бұрын

You are gonna love the next video

@celloj3703

8 ай бұрын

@@b2stud I bet!

@samhaden7385

8 ай бұрын

The ending is just spot on!

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7 ай бұрын

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@robocatssj3theofficial

2 ай бұрын

extreme demon

4:45 as a bowling prof i can confirm that this technique is flawless

@louf7178

8 ай бұрын

LOL

@guccilibrarian4728

8 ай бұрын

I read this as "bowling professor," and I think that's a solid title for you, sir.

@russ0519

8 ай бұрын

​@guccilibrarian4728 is it not bowling prof?

@onlinefriend3889

8 ай бұрын

There's a professor for bowling? 🧐

@noot3778

8 ай бұрын

​@@onlinefriend3889 probably

I was hoping to see the AI figure out centrifugal force and start spinning faster and faster each time to launch the bowling ball at Mach speed

@Grane1234

11 ай бұрын

Avoid having the ball hit the lane altogether, just YEET the ball at the pins

@junkyyard2273

11 ай бұрын

isnt that just centripetal force at least in this case?

@andrasfogarasi5014

11 ай бұрын

@@junkyyard2273 I'd say the core idea behind the strategy has more to do with spinning permitting one to hold the ball for longer, thus giving them more time to accelerate it. The centripetal force by itself does not contribute any energy, as it is orthogonal to the velocity.

@paulomartins1008

11 ай бұрын

​@@junkyyard2273yes, but meh

@NoHoleBagel

11 ай бұрын

@@junkyyard2273 it might be i remeber hearing centrifugal force isn’t really a thing in physics but I can’t remember the context of it I just know centripetal is the force keeping the object from flying away like a rope or this dudes arm in this case

My university occasionally has ice bowling events, literally bowling on an ice rink, wearing hockey gear, and this AI flopping around and faceplanting after throwing the ball is EXACTLY what it looks like 90% of the time

@b2stud

11 ай бұрын

Is there anywhere I can watch this? Sounds hilarious

@Shako_Lamb

11 ай бұрын

@@b2stud The university's recreation department (UVM Campus Rec) has a video of it up here on KZread, idk where else

@econecoff1725

11 ай бұрын

I do such on ice even when not trying to bowl.

@ihavenoson3384

11 ай бұрын

@@b2stud kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZayLkteeYtqZnKw.html The ball they use is elastic as hell.

@Jawsomest

11 ай бұрын

@@ihavenoson3384 "Hey how do we make ice's low friction fun" "How about using a ball that won't even be touching the floor" "but, that defeats the whole poi-" "ELASTIC BALL GO BRRRRRRRRRRRR"

I love how the AI resorts to faceplanting into the ground and throwing a tantrum every time it throws the ball 😂😂

@hiit-itxr-fitness1962

3 ай бұрын

It actually reminds me of an old gag - the Machuga flop (PLEASE Google that)

@Dr.JustIsWrong

2 ай бұрын

That's part of the game, surely?!

As a bowler myself, this is hilarious. By the way, it might have been helpful to include information on which pins are standing as an input to the system. Then it might stand a chance at getting spares somewhat consistently. Bowling scoring is very strange, but basically it heavily punishes leaving an "open" frame, meaning you didn't get a strike or spare. This means that being able to pick up your spares is super important for good scores. Another thing to consider is that the hand can act like a lever, allowing you to release your thumb first, then use your fingers to add rotation to the ball. If the model had some sort of basic "hand" that essentially has hold of the ball in two locations, that might allow it to add a fair bit of rotation. Also, did you consider adding oil to the lane? A standard bowling lane will have oil applied to it, with most of it in the first 40 feet and biased toward the center of the lane. Then you could increase the friction between the ball and the surface to compensate.

@a_921

2 ай бұрын

You know... "Birthday bowling" was a big thing when I was a teenager. I never liked it much really, but here's the thing: Nobody EVER told me any of those things. Everybody was just supposed to know how bowling "works" , I am now a little bit wiser

I love how he finds a technique that works perfectly.. and then throws it into the next lane a second later lmao

@colinhaml

8 ай бұрын

That's what makes AI better, it never stops searching for better results, while humans will settle for the best result their mind judges it to be so

@tanelehala6422

8 ай бұрын

@@colinhaml but as said in this video AI does sometimes settle for "good enough"

@jaffusmaximus

8 ай бұрын

​@@tanelehala6422that's the age old problem of exploration vs exploitation

@gt4lex

8 ай бұрын

@@tanelehala6422 Well here it did because the actual objective wasn't even part of the equation. Should really have started with "kock down these quills with the ball" rewarded and "don't cross that line with your feet" punished. In this case, the AI didn't settle for "good enough", the AI tried to maximize the amount of points it could get, and it was rewarded with points for things that don't grant you any in reality when bowling.

@peter.wilson

8 ай бұрын

The Jeopardy game show AI (a decade ago) did something similar. After an opponent answered incorrectly, the AI then gave the same incorrect answer.

I love how he is so exhausted after every throw that he just straight up dies

@maksphoto78

10 ай бұрын

Pretty much me at the bowling alley.

@ewanstewart2001

10 ай бұрын

I sympathise. If you don't get any points for standing up, why bother?

@jonr3198

9 ай бұрын

I'd like to see real people bowl with spheres for feet

@Lefthandedpal

8 ай бұрын

He just avoids the cameraman at all costs!

@moonasha

8 ай бұрын

yeah seems like he should have rewarded staying upright after throwing more

That last throw in the 10th frame sent me into hysterics. AI just hauls off, full send cranks it to the right...only for it to hop over to the left.🤣

@somgiontheinternit

2 ай бұрын

he said "nope, that lane's no good!"

For all we know, if stumps for feet is all we had, this could be the best technique to bowl.

i like how one of the initial objectives was finishing the episode standing upright so it wouldn't just instantly faceplant every time and then halfway through you went "actually you know what little buddy you just do what you want"

@Enter54623

11 ай бұрын

By the end is when the head being held high should have been started to be rewarded, the importanter shit was figured out from there just condition that model to also stay upright and you’re golden

@russelltesmer6633

11 ай бұрын

My mans was created with spherical feet too so I saw it as a fruitless endeavor lol

@Tenten_Tamtam

11 ай бұрын

Yea lol

@CommieCat

11 ай бұрын

@@Enter54623 least contact with floor as possible. watch him learn to jump shot a bowling bowl ))

@whoopingmuffin9700

11 ай бұрын

I think a smarter modifier is that it should be punished when it lets it's head, thighs, and torso hit the floor. Though this should also be integrated into it's existing network so it knows how to bowl first.

I love how the camera still zooms in on the pins even though the bowling ball wasn't even remotely close to entering the correct bowling lane

@gabrielharrison9800

11 ай бұрын

Same, also I like your name.

@PineappleElephant68

11 ай бұрын

are you itchy

@hotdogman8271

11 ай бұрын

@@gabrielharrison9800 why thank you

@Eleven217

11 ай бұрын

I read this JUST as it happened lmao

@rannnoch

11 ай бұрын

@@PineappleElephant68 yes

The drastic strategy changes when there were only a few pins remaining is a testament to how well you tuned the reward parameters. If the reward for knocking down pins hadn't been tuned effectively, the AI never would've attempted spares, and instead would've just launched the ball down the center of the lane during a split to be rewarded for speed and direction. Well done!

I love how it starts in such an organized pose and then immediately throws itself into the ground

To be honest completely throwing yourself off balance is a pretty effective way to transfer energy to the ball. The only real difference is in real life people tend not to like to severely injure themselves on every frame or two.

@april_

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like you are not a serious bowler, the pros use this move on occasion

@axileus9327

8 ай бұрын

Not if you want any amount of accuracy.

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7 ай бұрын

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@BambinaSaldana

6 ай бұрын

Cowards

@lowmax4431

5 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself

Imagine seeing someone do this IRL and losing to them they just either get a strike or go in the other peoples lane or hits someone and no matter how good or bad the shot they just fall over

@erictheepic5019

11 ай бұрын

"Yeah, I tried to learn to bowl standing up, but I could never let go of the ball."

@dbeast03

11 ай бұрын

Heck, I only know 3 or 4 people that can put up a 130 or better every time and two of them were on a bowling team, I'd lose here 4/5 games for sure. Maybe losing to 'em wouldn't be as bad as sharing the lane with someone who needs an entire ER in the alley after every frame. . .

@The_Bird_Bird_Harder

11 ай бұрын

It is night, I must be quiet. These comments are fucking killing me.

@FuckYoutubeCensorship

11 ай бұрын

Sure, they might win the game, but then they have to pay their hospital bills.

@Broockle

11 ай бұрын

no one would question this behavior Bowling Alleys are basically bar substitutes. 😆

Therapist - "you can't hear words" Wii Sports Bowling - Strike! "NIcE tHrOw🤓"

Lol. This AI went 4 point over my PR. Love these AI vids. Have an upvote

@b2stud

8 ай бұрын

You too

@HedgehogAdventurer

4 күн бұрын

Have you tried falling over

I honestly think the most impressive part was him picking up the spare in frame 5

@nickcoronado898

11 ай бұрын

especially since when it was the 7 pin left he goes wild and chucks the ball into the wrong lane

@uhok6712

11 ай бұрын

Had me feeling for the lil bro. Like way to go bud!

@daveg5857

11 ай бұрын

I don't want to add an extra like to this, cause you're sitting at 300!!!

@CooManTunes

11 ай бұрын

@@daveg5857 Nobody cares. Comment likes are not achievements.

@daveg5857

11 ай бұрын

@@CooManTunes I said that because 300 is a perfect game in bowling.

A ragdoll that barely knows the concept of sports, balance, or even breathing is somehow better than me at bowling.

@ARVash

11 ай бұрын

That's because those concepts are holding you back

@Linsquip_

11 ай бұрын

To be fair people who don't play bowling are like the first neural net. Source: Myself.

@BrowncoatFairy

11 ай бұрын

it might be better than you at bowling, but you are probably better at not flopping around like a fish on the ground after every throw.

@purpl3spartan

11 ай бұрын

@@BrowncoatFairy overrated skill tbh

@childofnewlight

11 ай бұрын

@@ARVash It's amazing how self-existence (not even preservation) is such a limiting factor to so many amazing skills.

Oh my god, please do a video (or a series of videos!) where you train different AIs independently and have them compete against each other in a tournament structure. They can even continue to train a certain number of predetermined times after every game so we can see the best ones progress and gradually refine. I N-E-E-D to see this!

Someone needs to make a live stream of AI learning, this is so soothing and fun to watch

Really opened my eyes when it comes to bowling. All you need is a lack of self preservation and you can do anything!

@macaronandcheese1811

11 ай бұрын

oooooh so that's why i'm so good at bowling

@sevrynthorndyke3675

11 ай бұрын

"the man who is willing to commit suicide has the initiative" is a common phrase in Russian bowling leagues

@econecoff1725

11 ай бұрын

A 6 year old relative of mine used to bowl kind of like that. In order to get enough ball momentum he usually ended up falling down after release. It became part of his technique. His parents were used to his dare-devil energy in general such that they gave up trying to tame him. When you're 6, you can get away with that. (When he's 55 and his back aches, he might remember why.)

@teslainvestah5003

11 ай бұрын

This makes me want an olympic bowler to perfect a technique that looks this dumb and win with it. Maybe keep it in their back pocket until they're ahead enough that they can take the risk.

@aniksamiurrahman6365

10 ай бұрын

@@macaronandcheese1811 LMAO!

I'm genuinely curious just how fast the ball could've been thrown had it not given up on aiming and kept increasing in speed, like I'm not expecting a rail gun but its funny to imagine them potentially throwing the ball with enough force to hit the pins directly without rolling.

@tangentfox4677

11 ай бұрын

Is.. is that legal?

@coyoteseattle

11 ай бұрын

@@tangentfox4677 It doesn't appear that the United States Bowling Congress, at least, has explicit rules which would cover doing so, though it seems likely to run afoul of rules regarding damaging the lane, pins, and other equipment.

@karnewarrior

11 ай бұрын

@@coyoteseattle I suspect it's not in the rules because nobody thinks a human capable of it... For now. I eagerly await the screams of dismay from my local bowling alley the day they realize they were wrong.

@poopsmithjones1

11 ай бұрын

​@@karnewarrior apparently an olympic shot put weighs 16 lbs.. bowling balls typically weigh less than that, they're just bigger I guess- still seems pretty doable when you consider how far they're able to throw a shot put

@crazy338866

11 ай бұрын

@@karnewarrior You can absolutely chuck a 8 lb bowling ball down the lane without it touching the ground, but don't expect to not get kicked out after doing it.

This reminds me vividly of the time i went bowling with friends and i slipped while rolling, let go of the ball, and nearly faceplanted with watching the ball honest to god bounce two lanes over. Art imitates life.

Thank you so much for including all these little WiiSports references, especially the backwards-throw one at the end :D brought back memories from more than a decade ago with hours of laughter playing this game at a birthday party

"I forgot how to walk" *having the most painful seizure*

I love that the camera still zooms into the lane when they miss, it makes it so funny. It zooms in, and you expect to see the ball majestically appear and destroy those pins, but there’s just nothing.

@FairyNuffMuffin2

11 ай бұрын

Wii sports also does it, which the final result is entirely mimicking (for anyone who hadn't figured that out)

@soundbeverage3964

11 ай бұрын

It's like it's saying "bruh..."

@SquirrelTheorist

11 ай бұрын

@@FairyNuffMuffin2 I loved how he included the backward-roll and the crowd yell at the end. Nostalgia hahaa

I cannot overstate how much I love that the AI proceeds to just fucking die every time after it throws the ball.

3:25 This isn't AI. This is just raw footage of me bowling. I'm in this video and I don't like it.

The most hilarious thing about watching this is my irl group of friends in early adulthood would go bowling, and one of our friends in the group had professional training- and at one point, the way he would roll the ball would sometimes have him "fall over" afterwards. So another friend started intentionally falling over dramatically every time he rolled the ball to poke fun at him... and then it became a "meme" about him falling over and flopping like a fish. But the dude could out bowl any of us without effort...

@collaboration3511

8 ай бұрын

Sorry to break the news to you like this... Your friend is an AI...

@fyodordochievsky4376

8 ай бұрын

Your friends group sounds like a riot 😂

@henkhenkste6076

8 ай бұрын

liar

@B3Band

8 ай бұрын

Imagine having your claim to fame that you could out-bowl your friends, but have to fall over and embarrass yourself in order to do it.

@kylepatrickmccrary2781

8 ай бұрын

​@@B3Bandwould you rather...?

I appreciate the presense of little ball spectators. Makes the environment look way more lively rather than looking like setting for the experiments.

@mattc3581

8 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, I got way too distracted by the $33 jellybean on sale at the bar.

@okthisisthelasttimeipromise

8 ай бұрын

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

@Jokoko2828

8 ай бұрын

Can you imagine being a ball person and just watching this dude spazz out in the bowling alley for like a week?

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7 ай бұрын

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@snoglydox

7 ай бұрын

@@Jokoko2828 : *I would be more upset the AI was throwing my buddy around.*

they should allow this as an option to play against at an actual bowling alley. it'll fit right in with the bowling animations

9:45 HAHAHA how he tried to catch himself after the fling.

I always hate it when I go to a bowling alley and realise I forgot how to do anything, so I have to have my brain rebuilt from scratch.

@havenp

11 ай бұрын

Average Tuesday night for me

@nemou4985

11 ай бұрын

2038 moment

@cattythecat9161

11 ай бұрын

Using AWD after you drunk too much... know these days...

The moment you mentioned rewarding higher speed with more reward, I just knew the guy was gonna throw that thing as hard as possible. I'm just impressed it didnt end up abusing the physics engine for that goal. Perhaps CodeBullet has spoiled me

@Shajirr_

11 ай бұрын

If left for a long time it would have absolutely ended up abusing the physics engine somehow. But the more important point is correctly defining the rewards. Number of knocked down bowling pins should absolutely be a multiplier on the score. Zero pins = zero score. But even then knocking down half at superspeed might give more score that knocking down all at low speed, which is still stupid.

@milokiss8276

11 ай бұрын

*Clips ball into chest* *Launches ball directly into pins at mach 6*

@N3G4T3

11 ай бұрын

Me when I play games.

@pocoapoco2

11 ай бұрын

Would have had to program a trip to the gym between frames.

@surfinsilver

11 ай бұрын

Was waiting for this comment lol

Thank you for these videos, for real man. I've been watching your stuff for months and they've indirectly inspired me to go to college for software engineering. I'll come back to this video in a few years once I finish up and let you know how it went.

The way the AI chose to throw the ball had my crying I was laughing so hard!!😂😂

The actual game at the end scared me. It uses the same exact technique I do, and I was sure to be the only one. No one else had the drive to send their entire body into the shot, let alone commit your face to it. AI is definitely taking over.

@doyourownresearch7297

2 ай бұрын

yeah. Its mostly about you.

That 10th frame was an emotional roller coaster.

@lampoilropebombs0640

11 ай бұрын

Imagine if anyone makes a 0-10-0 on the 10th.

@CountChrisdo

11 ай бұрын

Always keep them guessing

@TheEspressoMachine

11 ай бұрын

It's like the nerves really got to him

@altrag

11 ай бұрын

I personally enjoyed the spare pickup on the 8th.. just "nope f this roll".

im only halfway through this video and im thoroughly entertained between in-progress training ai being goofy and your hilarious commentary.

As someone who writes similar code for my games, I have to say that this video is brilliant. It's hilarious, but also does a good job of explaning the concepts of rewards, penalties and weights.

You seem like an experienced programmer, visualisation developer, data analyst, video game designer, teacher, shitposter and engineer who also dabbles in drawing, cinematography, modelling, computer graphics, writing, user interface, publishing papers and gaming. Oh, and I also have this suspicion that you're an AI developer.

@realElectroZap

11 ай бұрын

pretty accurate lol

@dakodahuber

11 ай бұрын

Best we can offer is $17/hr

@wangsunfuh8889

11 ай бұрын

The only reason to pay that much is if he had fifteen years of experience. Give him the entry rate of 16.50.

@buttonasas

11 ай бұрын

@@wangsunfuh8889 I think youtube+patreon pay out a lot less than that, unfortunately.

@Cerberus1746

11 ай бұрын

@@dakodahuber 17/h sounds a lot man, where do you find these clients? 😛

10:09 the ai synchronized hitting the floor with the sound of the ball slamming down got me XD

@bebgab1971

8 ай бұрын

10:50 is even better he just slams his face into the ground the moment the ball lands

I award an amazing 9 out of 10 to the AI for accuracy, but heck I have to award at least 10 out of 10 for its sheer commitment to the game on each and every turn.

The last few minutes had me laughing non-stop, had to catch my breath! The AI falling down, throwing silly shots, hilarious!

You should do a 24/7 stream of AI bowling, or all sorts of training.I know I’d watch it from time to time

@ccctube5721

11 ай бұрын

Would watch

@comicsans2516

11 ай бұрын

Might I suggest the AI vtuber that is constantly learning: Neuro-sama!

@nickku_

11 ай бұрын

@@comicsans2516 she doesnt do bowling tho

@dean_l33

11 ай бұрын

@@nickku_ Just tell her creator to get on it. He already did it with among us

@cadneemountai2791

11 ай бұрын

​@@dean_l33 Vedal would rather spend the time making her troll better

The 6th frame was actually pretty impressive, because the AI aimed for the exact right spot it needed to in order to make the spare. There just wasn’t enough speed and power to knock them down, but it is aiming and strategizing like a bowler.

@Power5

11 ай бұрын

Dunno,, I think the programing of the pins may have been off a bit or something. As you said, that ball was in the spot needed to make the spare. I typically aim to the other side of the front pin in that situation to get more direct pin movement backwards to get the sleeper. But the shot the AI took should have taken down more than the front pin.

The technique seems to be starting by pushing the ball outside into a T pose, half a circle downwards, and then loose forward. To compensate that inertia, one leg crosses behind. Interesting, I will try that.

A couple other interesting parameters to add might be to simulate pain/injury avoidance by punishing it for falling over, and also reward points not just for being in the right lane but only if the ball is touching the lane. Maybe that would discourage falling over and discourage throwing the ball through the air out onto the lane. Maybe that would result in more familiar bowling technique, although it would be more boring too.

cant wait for it to throw it backwards and make the miis do a funny spin edit: stop telling me to watch the end i have already done it edit 2: u people r driving me insane I. HAVE. ALREADY. WATCHED. THE. END! edit 3: y'all aren't funny edit 4: can i lock a comment from replies?

@b2stud

Жыл бұрын

Is that a reference to something? I don't understand

@user-yn1oi6iv1f

Жыл бұрын

@@b2stud I think it's just a joke about the mistakes the AI makes while learning. And I'm waiting for the AI to throw the ball up or down, or kick it out of the world.

@Nukhebuk

Жыл бұрын

It's a reference to bowling the ball backwards in the game franchise Wii Sports which in some games makes the NPCs there spin in reaction to the ball.

@b2stud

Жыл бұрын

@@Nukhebuk what is Wii Sports?

@Nukhebuk

Жыл бұрын

@@b2stud First I have to assume that you're joking, and that you mention Wii Sports in the video. But incase you really are serious, Wii Sports is a franchise of games originating on the Wii (A Nintendo game console) that include the original Wii Sports, Wii Sport Resort, (which I think the original comment is referencing), and Nintnedo Switch Sports, which I haven't played and I don't know if it features the Mii characters that do the spinning in the bowling games. Now I just have to hope I haven't made a fool out my self but who cares anyways. Can't wait to see some bowling shenanigans.

It’s nice to know that it’s perfectly natural to just go “meh good enough, I tried”

@AdamWood

8 ай бұрын

That's not how engineering works! You keep trying until you run out of money, then ask for more. Sell exclusive merchandise to your fanbase for a quick boost of revenue. Launch one of your products into space for free direct promotion using your actual products. Have a plan and be prepared to change it, often.

@Ryvaken

7 ай бұрын

A reminder that computers are stupid, and we expect a human brain to be able to overcome challenges an AI consistently fails at. Example: throwing a ball without committing ones face to the floor in holy matrimony.

The one extra thing I'd liked to have seen would be a stability reward for how much time the AI was able to spend standing after releasing the ball (scaling with the number of pins hit, so as not to create a conflicting incentive). Adding it wouldn't invalidate any of the work that had come before and, as funny as it is to watch it faceplant every time, it would be cool to eventually see it master all aspects of the simulation, especially with those terrible feet.

i love watching early AI try to figure out what is going on. the back shimmy 5 pointer has to be a highlight moment

I think "definitely not forgetting" to include a reward system for knocking over the pins from the beginning should have warranted a fresh rewrite of the entire program. Having that in place from the first throw could have had an exponetial effect on the AI's ability to hit the pins much earlier on. Granted, it may have resulted in the AI throwing the bowling ball like a bullet, but who hasn't attempted that?

@wbfaulk

8 ай бұрын

It is perfectly legal for a bowler to throw the ball directly at the pins. It could even be thrown overhand.

@nomisukeindustries

8 ай бұрын

There are different league sanctions, but most require you to hold the ball a certain way and throw underhanded. You can even be disqualified for not putting your thumb in the hole. Of course, if you are open bowling, you can do anything you want short of violating the house rules.

@wbfaulk

8 ай бұрын

@@nomisukeindustries Neither USBC, BTBA, nor World Bowling make any such restriction.

@merp9610

8 ай бұрын

@@nomisukeindustries As has been stated, most major bowling organizations don't restrict how you throw. If someone was extremely good at throwing overhand, they'd be allowed to do it.

@danese1636

8 ай бұрын

@@merp9610I would pay top dollar to see this

That face plant after every shot kept bringing me joy. I really thought it would get old, but it just never did.

I love watching ai learn and trying new stuff to get things right.

Very nice. Also a reward for no contact with the ground other than the "foot". He might try and stay vertical. It was very interesting to see what bowling might look like if we didn't care about anything other than rolling a strike.

The Bowler knows where his ball is is at all times. He knows this because he knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the ball from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is.

@crusatyr1452

11 ай бұрын

Wait istg I've heard smth like this before. What's it a reference to?

@revimfadli4666

11 ай бұрын

​@@crusatyr1452 missile kalman filter video?

@ffelix916

11 ай бұрын

But a ball with spin on a complex axis (not just one of the X, Y, or Z axes) will follow a nonlinear path, as the spin axis itself is re-oriented by its friction with the floor. There would need to be some sort of polynomial algebra involved to solve for this differential, as there are a lot more than two variables (matrices, consisting of movement vector, gravity vector, spin, and floor-contact friction, in this case)

@crusatyr1452

11 ай бұрын

@@revimfadli4666 idk what that is ._.

@revimfadli4666

11 ай бұрын

@@crusatyr1452 Missile Guidance for Dummies

I can absolutely vouch for the "Jazz Hands" technique. After many decades of bowling, I've learned that the "Jazz Hands" technique absolutely works like a charm. And judging from the way my friends bowl, the "flopping around the floor while flinging the ball up into the air in random directions" totally works too. Although as a spectator, you really have to learn to dodge behind the furniture and other obstacles pretty quick. Go bowling with my friends a few times, and you'll become a pro "dive behind stuff dodger". The driving range is another wonderful place where the jazz hands and diving out of the way techniques also work.

@HungerGamesFan88

11 ай бұрын

for some reason this reminds me of rtgames john golf bit

my man really just fell down, he didnt feel anything, he dropped his ball then felt the pain of stepping in lego but its your whole body

I love how he looks so composed but then has a seizure immediately every time 😂

It's interesting seeing how it reacts to the pins. When it had a 7-10 split, it went right down the middle. But both times when it had only 1 pin up it tried to ride the right edge, even though one time the pin was on the left. I'm assuming it learned that sometimes it can pick up spares if it does that, but it's not aware of pin position so it's just going for what worked a different time. Which means that it will factor its strategy based on pins remaining, at least.

@jessejordache1869

10 ай бұрын

I was thinking more that the product of the rewards lead the doll to the behavior "aim straight, since spin is sufficient for deviations from a straight path". The doll is right-handed, so 10 pin? No problem. 7 pin? Spin it, but do not release the ball at an angle, because that virtually always leads to a bad outcome.

From AI learns to swing like Spiderman to inventing bowling techniques Next up: AI learns to take over the world

@wChris_

11 ай бұрын

This is number 22

@youtubeuniversity3638

11 ай бұрын

So Plague Inc. then?

@10wuebc

11 ай бұрын

Also turn that into 2 AIs and make them mice.

@Amasingearth

11 ай бұрын

Ok pinky

@YetAnotherInv

11 ай бұрын

​@@youtubeuniversity3638 Or, god forbid, Grand Strategy games.

I’d use this for reward: pins knocked multiplied by head distance to ground, where 1.0 is slightly below regular height, 0.0 is slightly above the ground, and clamp it within 1 and 0

I love the beginning, its like he messes up his throw and throws a tantrum like a toddler 10/10

Suggestion: AI learns to play Yomi Hustle. Yomi Hustle is a turn-based fighting game where each player is given anywhere between a few seconds to a half hour to plan out the action of their fighter down to the frame-data. The goal is to make AI that master Yomi hustle, analyze the game balance (overall win/loss ratio against all characters and best/worst win/loss ratio between them), then select a character mod and run it through to see if it fits that balance.

@Snowowowie

11 ай бұрын

Good Idea, but 1. b2 doesnt own the rights to YOMIH 2. YOMIH is very complicated, even compared to stuff like this, as it has many, many inputs and outputs that would need to be considered 3. b2 would have to program his own version of YOMIH in order to give the AI precise inputs such as the velocity and position of the players, and it would be very difficult to make a good recreation as b2 wouldnt know the numbers to throw in for YOMIHs engine 4. The computing power required for this would also be insane, as the AI would have to predict every single scenario and weigh the likelyhood of whats gonna happen, and somehow decide as to which move would be the best, which would also require looking even more moves in the future in order to correctly see if the enemy would be able to retaliate easily, or if the AI would be able to combo them. YOMIH does seem like a good game to train an AI for, but even after hundreds of hours being put into making it, i doubt the AI would even be able to pull off basic combos, and thats not very good material for a video.

@krembananowy

11 ай бұрын

Toribash seems like a good candidate: * f2p for the past 16 years, * Input interface is 20 joints with 4 possible states each. Not a small space, but simple to handle and discreet, * Observation space is continuous - with position, angle (and speed) of all body parts, * Leans into the theme of this and the previous video - 3d ragdoll physics

@Joel-qo6gt

11 ай бұрын

And the ideal end is to be able to pit two of these bots against each other and have them play real-time matches.

@vadandrumist1670

11 ай бұрын

@@Snowowowie 1. Didn't realize that was a requirement. Why didn't that apply for all the other established games he's done videos for? Monopoly in the creative commons? 2. I have seen AI take on the likes Starcraft and Pokémon, complication is only a matter of his system's capacity. 3. I know that is not a strict requirement by virtue of the other games he and others have tested. It is a requirement for lesser systems, but it's far from an absolute. Even if it was though the good thing about it being a turn-based fighting game is that most of the values are evident up-front, and we've already seen him crack into games like Rocket League for specifics. 4. That is the same problem for every turn-based game from as early as chess. The goal is not to plan out every move, it is to select the most optimal within a range for the immediate situation. As for how it judges that, that's were the machine "learning" comes in, along with some basic conditions to define value. Throw moves at the wall and see what sticks. As for the computing to understand the moves, Yomi Hustle already has a built-in system to literally let you check every single move down to its frame data against every single one of the opponent's, might ease up on the burden. Yomi Hustle is only complicated in a vacuum. As long as it has the capacity comparable to that which learns the most traditional of board games, after hundreds of hours it would probably look just like them: practically impossible for humans to beat without handicaps.

@revimfadli4666

11 ай бұрын

​@@Snowowowie I mean, unity remakes seem feasible to him

This is what true bowling mastery looks like. If you don't like it then you just aren't strong enough to handle these advanced techniques.

I love the little bowling alley environment. I would play this if it was a game.

I know the math is cool and all but the resulting animations of flop-bowling are really the highlight of this video

This is unbeatable content! It's fun, it's visually appealing and the AI work behind is really complex. How the hell did you get so good?

@b2stud

11 ай бұрын

Mate, just spent a lot of time alone

@alexander2438

11 ай бұрын

​@@b2studAI bowling tournament?

@wrathofainz

11 ай бұрын

@b2studios If that's all it takes then I should be a professional by now.

@Ari-8449

11 ай бұрын

​@@b2stud then why am I not good at ai already?

@pauljefferies5837

11 ай бұрын

@@b2stud unsupervised learning ...

9:28 literally had me dying- i don't know why the ball slowly creeping up on the pin was so funny to me, but i choked on my sprite laughing

@victorfunnyman

11 ай бұрын

comedic slowness

@TheRealBatabii

11 ай бұрын

I was just impressed it actually went all the way to the pin

@The-EJ-Factor

8 ай бұрын

A sprite is a 2D game object

@Mate_Antal_Zoltan

8 ай бұрын

I think the pathetic thunk of the single pin being knocked over helps

@willyb7353

8 ай бұрын

​@@The-EJ-Factor 🤓 They were talking about the drink.. 🙄

I love how after every throw he's just like, "I'm tired boss."

Legend has it, the AI never stopped falling.

Man I was really rooting for him on the 8th frame. I laughed so hard when he chucked the ball sideways! 😂

It's amazing how AI can really help improve and refine things in ways we might never have thought of before. I am looking forward to trying this technique the next time I go bowling! The other bowlers won't stand a chance.

@holisticreviews

11 ай бұрын

You’ll be floored with the results.

@jlinn12

11 ай бұрын

Coincidentally, you also won't be able to stand afterwards.

@rannnoch

11 ай бұрын

What about a movie like Real Steel but instead of boxing it's robot bowling and they have to bring a geriatric bowler out of retirement to shadow bowl with his junkyard bot

that midi loop during the end sequence was immaculate. excellent vibes all around

"While wildly unorthodox, you're a formidable opponent guy." (Face down, nose bleeding) "Fnangk ñou"

The throw at 9:09 is 100% me when I choke and cant take the pressure of downing a single, lonely pin for a spare

@near5148

10 ай бұрын

Lol that is so relatable

Love the little Wii Sports jingle at 8:02.

@funkygawy

11 ай бұрын

the whole 9 frames has look & feel of wii, from the semi-transparent bowler to the other players sitting, the visuals on strike/spare, the pin inset in the corner...

@funkygawy

11 ай бұрын

10 frames duh

@acidhydra101

8 ай бұрын

the song that plays after, as well as the ui, is all also a reference

The edits! Insane editing, genuinely so clean

Love that follow through form!🤣 Improve the scores, and the PBA has a new star to bring in the viewers!

I will wait here patiently for 40 hours

@petergardner4451

Жыл бұрын

Same...

@liaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaav

11 ай бұрын

Still waiting

@5skdm

11 ай бұрын

Me too

@5skdm

11 ай бұрын

I missed the premier

@loggeek

11 ай бұрын

did you practice during that time?

a few pointers: keep it simple. reduce your reward function to just knocking over the pins + staying in the right lane. clamp lane reward to 1.0 (or low exp towards center) until sides, then go negative exp or fixed to a value once over bounds. if you want speed, give a reward reverse proportional to time spent until pin hit. all rewards must be lower in total than pin knockdown reward. that should avoid local minima, maximize knocking pins down + keep optimizing for speed after pins are knocked down. don't reward means, only outcome. if spin is benficial it will learn it, if pin position is benficial it will learn it as well.

@Elvan-Lady

11 ай бұрын

I was a little surprised that he didn't prioritize pins down, myself.

It looks like it's fighting against the starting position more than it should. Like everything in the starting position (all the limbs) are taut and when the program starts it's fighting against the release of tension.

One of the funniest videos ever made. And interesting training sequence montages.

I just want you to know that I was quite literally crying from laughter during this. Thank you so much for sharing this experiment!

3:19 the tv in a bowling alley when you hit a strike

Wondering if anyone noticed that a single jellybean is $33

Watching it launch itself onto its face just gets funnier and funnier every time.

Poor guy really felt the pressure in the 8th frame there… (@10:28)

@smilerbob

11 ай бұрын

It looked like a CGI version of me bowling 🤣

This was absolutely hilarious. Imagine if someone employed this "falling" technique in real life, and actually perfected it. 🤣

@jessejordache1869

10 ай бұрын

I once bowled a few games next to a group of small children who were deliberately doing this.

this video is absolute gold. so glad I found it

watching this little goober flail around in the alley brought me so much joy

I'm a little upset it didn't score any pins in a wrong lane, but it still did shockingly well!

Watching them faceplant every bowl made me laugh so hard i couldnt breathe through almost the whole video 😂 ☠️

@maksphoto78

11 ай бұрын

It's too funny! One too many drinks for this guy.

@121Corey121

10 ай бұрын

Same! I haven't laughed that hard in months!! 😂

@maksphoto78

10 ай бұрын

I'd be exhaused too if I were an AI under his command.

You deserve a ton more viewers! What a cool project!

a couple of papers you might be interested in based on the technical limitations you encountered are “Fourier Feature Networks Let Networks Learn High Frequency Functions in Low Frequency Domains,” by Tancik, Srinivasan, and Mildenhall, et al. of UC Berkeley, and “Agnostic Learning with Multiple Objectives,” by Cortes, Gonzalvo, and Mohri of Google Research. The first paper is about helping encode low dimensional data (such as positions) in a format easier to process for high dimensional kernel models like neural networks. And the second is about adversarially choosing a combination of weights for the terms of your reward function that _requires_ the model to maximize them jointly, each without sacrificing the others.