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@someguycp

8 ай бұрын

7:20 to skip ad

@patrickparker4576

8 ай бұрын

7:30 text on screen reads "is it's pacing"... The personal possessive pronouns are my, your, our, their, her, his and its. The word "it's" only ever means "it is" because it's a contraction.

@tobydobo4080

8 ай бұрын

Love it! More than what I expected. So glad to see ahsoka ascending to something we havent seen before. If ashoka is the catalyst to the next big thing in sw, then so be it.

@paxsondavies1575

8 ай бұрын

I agree with the needless point of watching Ahsoka turn three pillars. But as someone who loves Andor how can you say that when watching anything Syril related exists in that show. Do we really need to watch Syril eat with his mother, or move in with his mom, god damn it was mind numbingly boring

@foujiz

8 ай бұрын

@@paxsondavies1575 But those scenes are VITAL to the character's development. In such short scenes, you understand perfectly why he became the person he is. It's incredible directing and writing. Without those scenes, Syril becomes someone with a lot less personality and reasons for what he does. Those scenes were some of the best of the show character wise!

speaking of slow and tedious this video is slow and tedious taking 20 minutes to say "ahsoka is slow and tedious"

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

Cool but also not really. I say pretty quickly it's slow and tedious and then proceed to give examples why to support my point. The thesis is right off the top though...so idk learn essay structure? Maybe that'll help.

@KaneK1234

8 ай бұрын

You got owned so hard lmao

The biggest problem is really the strange pauses in between dialogue

@xdj2a2

8 ай бұрын

Grand admiral....*Awkward pause* THRAWN, it's like thinking about these moments in universe everyone knows who thrawn is why are people constantly taking pauses to say his name😤🤦🏾

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839

8 ай бұрын

All that time wasted in deep thought... Should have been invested in ACTION !!!

@officialmonarchmusic

8 ай бұрын

@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 No offense, but I cannot tell if you are mocking me or being serious

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839

8 ай бұрын

@@officialmonarchmusic :- l am agreeing with you.

@officialmonarchmusic

8 ай бұрын

@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 Okay, good. These days it's hard to tell heavy sarcasm from genuine statement :)

Dreadful take

My buddy just told me Ahsoka is “peak Star Wars” and I’m about to have him committed

@thegoodreylo4749

8 ай бұрын

Do it

You said it yourself Ahsoka has abandonment issues and a whole lot of trauma I think her stoicism makes sense and was done purposeful. Since we know Anakin is showing up I’m pretty sure that’s what gonna make her lighten up and have a bit of Snips come back

@xemi2087

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. While I get people's disappointment in not seeing our beloved snips as we grew to love her on screen, this is character writing *and it makes sense.* It's not even a conclusion we have to come to ourselves, it's right there as Ahsoka expresses her worries about Grogu coming off his path (just like Anakin) and her guilt over leaving Sabine (as she did with Anakin). I feel like Ahsoka often supresses her feelings in regards to her past, we already saw that in Rebels, even when she knew who Vader was..she didn't tell anyone. And she just let it eat her up inside until she had to face Vader and the realization that she *is* right about him. It's all been building up towards it and in the trailer she literally says "I'm not here to talk about my past". So it will definitely be adressed and there'll surely be payoff. *_Edit_* To go even further: Not only is her guilt being adressed but her lack of trust in herself which was a theme with young Ahsoka (when Padme told her she'll learn to trust in herself and when Ahsoka ultimately said she didn't know how to trust herself when the jedi council couldn't). + her guilt over surviving order 66 when she didn't feel she deserved it contrary to many others, feeling unworthy of using the force "when she's not a jedi" and left them (to die basically..in her mind anyway)

@FuzzehBear101

8 ай бұрын

I have struggled with depression and while I definitely feel like in those times I became withdrawn and a lot less energetic in my character I didn’t become completely stone dead. Having the occasional snark from Ashoka would go so far to help fans remember that the character we once knew is there. To me Ashoka isn’t Ashoka she’s just someone wearing her skin.

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839

8 ай бұрын

Too little, too late to save the series.

@reallybig4868

8 ай бұрын

durrrr

@realBatman-89

8 ай бұрын

​@@FuzzehBear101she's not a teenager anymore. Nearly all Jedi act with no emotion.

Idk if it’s an unpopular opinion but I loved the episodes.

@isaiahvoss

8 ай бұрын

So did I. It felt like Star Wars again. It's not an unpopular opinion.

@Waywardpine

8 ай бұрын

Did you watch the rebel series just curious?

@emmarod8746

8 ай бұрын

@@WaywardpineI watched Rebels, both Clone Wars shows and the movies, Bad Batch, and the live action shows. The episodes were really good and you could see the animated shows feeling present in the episodes.

@steelie2010

8 ай бұрын

I’m glad for you honestly ! It was missing a few things that frustrated me , mainly in Ahsoka’s character writing, im hoping I’ll come around later

@conradrosgaard3481

8 ай бұрын

@@steelie2010this is honestly the only problem I had. Her entire character arc kinda went the same way as obi wan when talking about fighting - they start out loving it, sub consciously believing that it’s the point of being a Jedi because of the war they’re fighting in, but then slowly stops and realizes that Jedi are peacekeepers. After that they start being willing, not to fight, but to end the conflict, in whatever way seems fit. You see it with obi wan when fighting Maul on Tatooine and Vader on the Death Star, and you see it with Ahsoka in tales of the Jedi and when trying to speak Vader/Anakin out of doing whatever he’s doing, instead of simply fighting. She’s no longer a soldier, she’s a Jedi (in all but name). Then this show comes a long and it feels like we’re back to season 2 Ahsoka who loves to fight and doesn’t care about just being a peacekeeper… other than that tho, I totally loved the first two episodes. All the small nods to clone wars and rebels were amazing, and while the plot didn’t move a lot, I loved it as a starting point/setup for the show!

There's only 2 episodes put out, and you already made a 30 minute video.

I'm with you on pace. I like slow pace. I think taking time to develop character or slow burning a feel is not what we're seeing here. It's slow cuts in dialogue. Its not wayching them walk away with a beautiful blocking and a reminder that those steps carry weight and move the subject closer to something big. We're just seeing a couple seconds of someone walking.

I personally loved em

To those who haven't seen Star Wars Rebels, I loved the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Don't get me wrong it had a great introduction to Baylan and Shin as well as an reintroduction to Sabine and Hera. It felt cinematic to witness the aftermath of Rebels. Sabine stole the show. When she heard the recording of Ezra, It was great to see old friends especially after he defeated Thrawn. It felt like Ezra was still there. The connection between Ahsoka and Sabine felt real as it's two Jedi walking away from each other but figuring out why they needed to find Ezra and Thrawn was a pivotal part. Hopefully the series goes as planned. I'm sure we'll see Anakin/Vader again and hopefully Rex as well. "This is where the fun begins" once again.

@MrDeengels

8 ай бұрын

This is all pure trash

@reallybig4868

8 ай бұрын

Why are you only talking to those people? Your interpretations are things I genuinely hope sways people to reconsider their drinking habits.

One thing I’d like to mention about Stevenson’s performance in episode one is his control during the prison break. As an audience, we’ve seen hallway fights like the one shown in this episode. Darth Vader, Maul and even Luke Skywalker have torn through the cannon fodder but each one was different in some way. It’s no different here. The easiest comparison to make would be Darth Vader vs Baylan. In Vader, we can see his rage and power as his blocks swiftly arc into the next. Baylan, on the other hand, is more composed and refined in his movements. It’s a key difference that informs audiences about the characters. One is a powerful ruthless demon and the other is a precise warrior with purpose. Then again, this is just an observation

Oh my god its been 2 episodes and allready on this BS.

I’ve only seen praise for these two episodes

No it's not

I have a suggestion for those that didn't like the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Stop watching it, you'll be better off. I did it with She Hulk and it saved me a lot of time. I'm glad I don't have this problem with Ahsoka. The first two episodes were great.

@gaffer2602

8 ай бұрын

It's not that he didn't like it, he just didn't enjoy it as much as he though after the premiere. He's still looking forward to the rest of the show

@hdbfilmz7999

8 ай бұрын

Wow youre a genius. Who should I send my donation too. We need to ensure you can spread your wisdom to the rest of the world.

@mydreaminorbit9297

8 ай бұрын

@@hdbfilmz7999 common sense is free

@mydreaminorbit9297

8 ай бұрын

@@gaffer2602 I was referring to those that didn't like it specifically

@hdbfilmz7999

8 ай бұрын

@mydreaminorbit9297 if that's the case then you owe me money

I agree with literally almost all of your criticisms, and found myself nodding my head the whole video, though my general consensus is more positive. I enjoy these more candid and specific types of videos, I know they don't get as many views but I really feel like I understand specifics about what I did or didn't like that I didn't pick up on

Im pretty much loving it so far. People acting like they dont understand of the trauma all these characters went thru and are going thru... and yall talking about they seem too sad and wheres the upbeat energy... Ahsoka and Sabine are shells of themselves at this point.

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839

8 ай бұрын

As l explained to my 18 year old grandson who is an encyclopedia on Star Wars...not everyone watching Ashoka on Disney is aware of all of the intricate foibles of the Clone Wars. Many of us are watching this Ashoka as a "stand alone" story, and we are not picking up on the deep, thoughtful silences that take up too much screen time in this series.

As someone who's seen all of Rebels twice through I think I can say that if you are a Star Wars fan that didn't see that show Ahsoka might come off as a bit weird at first. I actually really liked the start, by no means was it perfect. You could clearly tell there was a bit of a weird adjustment with it being live action as opposed to animated with the original Rebels show. The pace was off at times and I think the directing could've been better for actors in certain scenes. Yes I know everyone is ticked off with the lightsaber stab but hey what can you do lightsabers in Star Wars have never been consistent and yes that even goes back to the original trilogy. I think this show could lead up to a great end so I am optimistic right now. I just really want to see Thrawn come in and then my boys Zeb and Ezra return with the crew back together.🙏

@codyeasonBGR

8 ай бұрын

I think the edits between talking in conversation they have pauses that are way to long.

@codyeasonBGR

8 ай бұрын

But I do have a question I watched Rebbels but also listen to all the Thrawn books. Why would Thrawn leave his map in an old temple. He never makes wasteful actions. Ya he loves art but he does not hid stuff in art in plane site.

@gaffer2602

8 ай бұрын

​@@codyeasonBGRIt wasn't Thrawn that left it there. It was something that they knew *could* lead them to where the Purrgil migrate to

@BP9000

8 ай бұрын

I think it's a false comparison. Rebels is a show made for children on the disney channel, and ahsoka is made for a more general audience

@OrionInSpace

8 ай бұрын

@@codyeasonBGR that's fair although that only happened a few times

I feel like to say it’s off to a bad start is harsh

I have to disagree with you completely. Where was the fan service? There was literally none 💀 everything in both EPs were in service to the plot and characters… Nowadays people just assume named character or familiar object = fan service and that's just... Wrong.. like objectively.

@NuniPikachu

8 ай бұрын

Right? Fan Service would be Chopper killing 50 people in one go. Hera is literally a Rebels General so she kinda has to be here anyway, so fan service would be if we got Zeb, Kallus and heck, even Rex too in the first 2 episodes, even though they didn't need to be here for the story.

@conradrosgaard3481

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t say there’s no fan service, but definitely not enough to ruin the show and only really fan service if you care a lot about Star Wars. The droid at the start was reminiscent of the scene with Maul’s probe droid in TPM, Sabine’s haircut “ritual” was the same as Kanan’s, the “ending” of episode two (like the second to last scene) was the same as the ending of rebels (though I’d say this wasn’t really fan service, just anchoring the two shows timeline together) etc. It’s very implicit fan service, it doesn’t ruin the episodes, and most people most likely wouldn’t even notice it. But for the once like me who did, it’s fucking amazing lol

@nz605

8 ай бұрын

That’s how you can tell the difference between a fan of Star Wars and a fan of being an annoying debating contrarian.

@properromanwoman.2813

8 ай бұрын

@@nz605 I've got to disagree, up until now ive been able to see the good/bad in every previous star wars film or show, but the acting in the first two episodes was not great. Ahsoka's portrayal was wooden and Sabine fell flat. I'm hoping that in future episodes we see more believable emotion coming from the 2 female characters that are meant to be the show runners.

@conradrosgaard3481

8 ай бұрын

@@frojoe2004 I’d personally say that call backs/easter eggs are a type of fan service since the only reason they exist is to make the fans happy/satisfied. Still, as you said it’s in the background and not taking the focus from the actual show, so I don’t get what he’s complaining over.

Been great so far

I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes. The slower pace didn't bother me, I get that the time could have been used more efficiently but I think it's a huge leap away from the rushed pacing most other Disney-era Star Wars productions tend towards. That edited fight scene was seriously legit though; I tend to favor animated Star Wars since the medium does a better job at portraying supernatural abilities. I never knew how good live-action lightsaber duels could be with a bit of post-editing.

@s.patterson5698

8 ай бұрын

The slow pace isn't the issue....Andor was a slow pace, but the writing and acting were glorious. AHSOKA needs work.

I think you might have jumped the shark here, buddy. Two episodes in? I havent seen it yet. Im waiting till all episodes available. Now if you made this after 5 or 6 episodes in, thats fair. Two episodes in only? Not the best take

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

I fully said, it could change. This is just an initial impressions video. I'm still watching and said "look we're like 25% into this thing, it could change..." but I also know Star Wars rn so.

Aside from a couple pacing issues I thought it was quite good. Most of the critiques I’ve been hearing sound like nitpicking

@properromanwoman.2813

8 ай бұрын

why are people afraid to talk about the flat, wooden acting that we saw in the first 2 episodes? I'm sorry but ahsoka and sabine left a lot to be desired in terms of embodying the animated character they're meant to bring to live action. I'm hopeful that in future episodes we see some believeable emotion from those two.

@RomanPhilosopher

8 ай бұрын

@@properromanwoman.2813 why are you commenting about it on every comment to this video? The acting wasn't that bad, it's a kids show, not oedipus rex.

@paxsondavies1575

8 ай бұрын

@@properromanwoman.2813I hope you’re not one of those Andor lovers, trying to convince me Andors acting wasn’t bland as fuck

@markpugh6808

8 ай бұрын

​@@paxsondavies1575I don't get the Andor love either I thought it was boring af

@paxsondavies1575

8 ай бұрын

@@markpugh6808 so boring dude. So much crap and filler that anything good in that series was hardly noticeable. I’m watching some random ex empire employee eat cereal with his mother then I get online and see how amazing the episode is being talked about. I swear there’s just a big section of Star Wars fans that just love shit now

They're trying to make a padawan the future if the jedi,even though she walked away,

You pointed out everything my husband and I have a problem with this series. We got to episode 4, but it’s just mostly ok. I’m not really a Star Trek fan, more of a Star Wars fan - but I have to say Picard and Star Trek: Strange New Worlds are more exciting to watch. Personally, just my imo, the Star Wars franchise can’t seem to capture that magic they had with the original 3. There were a couple of good movies, but it just seems tired now.

I think I'm still in the middle of a prolonged silence after a small line of dialog. Pausing for 30 seconds every time doesn't give the script more meaning or gravity.

It sounds like everyone is walking around brooding. And a 30 yr old is about to be trained to be a Jedi who doesn't have any access to the Force?

2 episode premiere is too early to critique

This is the best star wars we got since the clone wars.

Should have waited till the season ended before reviewing but I think the first two episodes were fine for what they were.

@dancingvalkyrie

8 ай бұрын

No they were dull. First impressions are important and this was boring.

@wickdaline8668

8 ай бұрын

@dancingvalkyrie Oh yeah, well, that's just, you know, your opinion, man.

@thetin-candalorian3319

8 ай бұрын

@@wickdaline8668nice clone wars reference

@wickdaline8668

8 ай бұрын

@@thetin-candalorian3319 Big Labowski reference.

@thetin-candalorian3319

8 ай бұрын

@@wickdaline8668 mb still a cool reference

Wow your wrong

I almost screamed the second I heard David Tennant’s voice! You are absolutely right: he’s so much more enjoyable as a droid than most of the human characters! He’s almost like a slightly optimistic version of K2-SO: very blunt, very factual, but with a little more whimsy 😊 Very much like Tennant’s signature role as Doctor Who

All the characters are either in arrested development or have regressed. Rehashing the same traumas with every new show is not a fun viewing experience. How can I be convinced Ahsoka has grown when she still has "abandonment issues"? She left the order when she was 16, shes 40 now! How can I be convinced Sabine has grown when shes still an edgy recluse with trust issues? I don't see the good things you point out, because those things were good when they were introduced and first resolved. Digging them back up is a detriment to their characters, not a strength. Honestly a lot of these explanations you have come off as head canon.

Fully agree ! Glacial pacing - finding the map..solving the map - multiple cockpit scenes ..arriving /docking/leaving ……all in real time !

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839

8 ай бұрын

Disney and Kathleen Kennedy have broken the number one rule of opening a new series... The first episode (and second, in this case) MUST grab you and make you wish that you could watch episode #3 immediately. If you loose the interest of your viewers and fan base in the first few episodes, then you can expect to have a pretty high drop out rate. And the reviews of those who watched the first couple of episodes does not bode well for the continuance of season two.

@rubydoo3307

8 ай бұрын

@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839I didn’t even think of the pilot rule, and you’re right I rewatched Mando,s first episode and it was tight.

Aint even gonna lie I loved this intro to the show, its definitely off to a better start than other star wars shows in my opinion

Where can we find the edited footage you used from the vfx comparison?

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

Linking in the description

I think Dave Filoni would greatly benefit from being creative director and still learning a few things about how to attack an ambitious project like this, I like the guy but I think he still needs a little more time before he can truly achieve something great and amazing, not that he's bad, but he has potential to go from good to great

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more. That's the kind of role he would THRIVE in.

@VonJay

8 ай бұрын

I know star wars is awesome and amazing but I think if SW fans were fans of storytelling first, or even cinema, they'd never say that Filoni is creative. If I removed everything that Lucas created from a Filoni lead script I'd be empty handed. I'm not saying that he should create more contraptions for the universe I'm just saying that there isn't anything he has added to the story that is unique. Even with all the ideas that make star wars he doesn't seem to have a storytelling philosophy on emotional traction (we seriously watched 40min of solving puzzles), or a cinematic philosophy on how to sell a scene (those Lightsaber fights were almost as bad as the ST). Sure the opening was awesome but it was something I saw several times before, There was really nothing new about it (like the Vader scene at the end of Rogue One).

I agree that Ahsoka and Sabine feel uncharacteristically stiff and stoic. However, I loved the slower pacing of the first two episodes, it allowed me to really feel the undercurrent. Ironically, I found your video to drag on. Take your own advice and don't linger so much.

Best Star Wars we’ve had in a while

@franksloe5087

8 ай бұрын

Thus comment appears on every single new star wars slob Disney serves. If you enjoyed it, fair enough, but I strongly disagree with this sentiment, and the last 10 times it was echoed by others on shows like Boba Fett and Andor.

@NuniPikachu

8 ай бұрын

@@franksloe5087 Eh, Not on Boba Fett, it didn't.

@franksloe5087

8 ай бұрын

@@NuniPikachu... I've seen people say they "liked the mods"

@dancingvalkyrie

8 ай бұрын

Andor is better than this stale crap.

@masteryoghurt2110

8 ай бұрын

It's too early to judge. It had some serious writing issues that could be easily avoided. Nevertheless Im still looking forward to the next epsiodes because I really liked Rebels and Grand Admiral Thrawn is my favorite fictional character.

I'm really glad you showed the edited lightsaber fight cos i hadnt seen that clip and i agree i think its much better, the editing and colour grading arent doing the animation to live action leap any favours in my opinion

Rebels fan here. I really liked the first two episodes of Ahsoka. It was fun to see the live action version of these characters. I really like the inclusion of the dark jedi and the fight scenes have been great. They are setting up some really great things by pulling ever so carefully from the Star Wars extended universe lore. I'm really excited about where this season is going.

I'm glad someone's talking about the filmmaking aspects of the show. Unfortunately, I don't think it's improved much (yet).

Bro it’s been two episodes and he is shitting on the whole thing🫠🫠🫠🫠

My issue so far is that people online are being mean to anyone asking questions, including me. Usually fandom means you help each other out. If you want more seasons of this show and that Filoni feature film, you should be more welcoming to people asking questions, or less culty about Filoni (respectfully).

Can you link that Twitter clip of the lightsaber fight?

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

I'll add it to the description in a sec!

@Real_RPGgaming

8 ай бұрын

@@FilmSpeak thanks man I kept trying to find it and just couldn’t find it and it’s always good to give credit

Disagree, 100%. I've watched maybe a half dozen epodes of Rebels and Clone Wars TOTAL - and I loved the first 2 eps. Makes me want to go back and watch those series, but don't feel like I need them to enjoy where the characters and situations as presented are going, plenty enough to be intrigued by. I'm in.

I’m so glad someone else got the same issue with Ahsoka’s character writing She seems lacking in empathy and compassion, things Ahsoka was famous for and made her a nuanced character

@properromanwoman.2813

8 ай бұрын

YES! like, wtf lol she's being portrayed so differently than in the animated shows. even when we saw her in Book of Boba Fett and Mando, she was more upbeat, chipper and smiled actually. but this iteration feels wooden and well, lifeless.

@NuniPikachu

8 ай бұрын

​@@properromanwoman.2813Its almost like trauma and experience as you get older changes people. I don't think Im acting the same as I did when I was 15 or so. You can actually see her personality changing a bit in the final season of clone wars

@wereadcomicstoo

8 ай бұрын

Idk she seems to be doing better than others after being involved in a massive war and losing all her friends and allies. She wasn’t so upbeat in Rebels either…

@shippendales8543

8 ай бұрын

I think Ahsoka does have the hope she once had from everything she's gone through She is colder and in a way that choice makes sense Moat people she gets close too end up dying And her closest companion is a robot in episode 1

@shippendales8543

8 ай бұрын

​@@properromanwoman.2813Her Mando and Boba Fett Appearances have one caves She is interacting with she assumes is a child Most people even overly serious people tend to smile more around children and act more upbeat Ìts a creative choice We see a more serious Ahsoka akin to this when she is fighting the Mayor

My favorite part is how lightsabers dont kill people anymore...

@RomanPhilosopher

8 ай бұрын

Not all stab wounds are fatal. It depends on what/where is stabbed

@sixfoursoul2538

8 ай бұрын

@@RomanPhilosopher like the difference between getting stabbed in the arm or the leg than getting stabbed through your sternum and your stomach 🤣 I think what you mean to say, is light sabers kill you differently, depending on if you are male or female, and if you have Mary Sue, plot armor on or not 😂

@RomanPhilosopher

8 ай бұрын

@@sixfoursoul2538Larry Stus and Mary Sues arent really involved in star wars. There are no obvious author inserts that are masters of everything with no effort or problem and are insanely cool and loved by everyone. What I was saying is if a lightsaber cuts off your head or stabs you through the heart, you are F'd. If it destroys a vital organ, you are F'd. If it stabs you in a kidney, you might be alright. Lightsabers, unlike a actual blade, carterize their wounds. Its why Darth Maul didnt bleed out when he was cut in half and was able to live, in pain, but live, because he lost no vital organs. But I guess to you Maul is also a Larry Stu? No. Star Wars also exists in a futuristic society with a lot of advanced medical staff and Sabine was taken immediately to a medical facility where they immediately went into surgery and saved her life and healed her wounds. Its a kids show, just enjoy it man. If you want something more serious go watch Succession. Its great.

@sixfoursoul2538

8 ай бұрын

@@RomanPhilosopher You seem to forget that , Qui-Gon instantly died of this wound, so did Han Solo. ( of course you are going to say that Han really died from the of the fall lol ) Maul getting cut in half only further proves there are major in consistencies on how Star Wars uses light saber. But according to you I cant have any own opinion on that because its a Kid show now ? , so thank you for telling me what you think I should watch instead , and thank for being an expert, light sabers, organ damage ,and above all mary sues!

@RomanPhilosopher

8 ай бұрын

@@sixfoursoul2538 was stabbed in a different place and didn't get immediate attention. He was also much older. It's also possible his death like oni wan and Yoda later was not a typical death due to his relationship with the force.

Does anyone have link to that clip with enhanced effects from 17:07 ? Thanks

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

In the description

@ULBERTcz

8 ай бұрын

@@FilmSpeak Thank you, I didn't notice that.

I don't believe a word you said... Because I watched it and it's great so far

Nah.

shin hati and baylan skoll were going to steal the show. now it is up to shin. great character. have to give dave credit for her

It's funny cuz while watching the first 2 episodes, i was thinking "Great ! At last, a series that takes its time and doesn't rush into action !" I feel like all Disney star wars projects have been fast paced action packed stories. And it felt good to finally have the time to take a break and focus on character developpement. But i havent seen rebels so maybe that's why i get this feeling, idk ! However i agree with you, the lightsaber duels aren't very dynamic, that's a shame. Filoni's gotta improve his directing skills. Well, this series sure is good practice for him before a star wars movie !

@foujiz

8 ай бұрын

That is the problem. The pacing is slow, but does not bring anything in either character development or world building. The problem is that Andor showed how to do slow buildup in the Star Wars universe, and Ashoka really doesn't deliver.

@shippendales8543

8 ай бұрын

​​@@foujizAndor only managed to do that because you watche'd it's whole season If you'd seen the first 2 episodes alone You probably would be saying the same thing Andor Andor worked becasmuse of the whole show as a whole but certain portions of it were slow and boring The first two epsides of a show are set up Character development is supposed to happen thougoug the duration of the show Ahsoka swallowing her pride and deciding to train Sabine is character development Same with Sabine going back to her jedi training

@foujiz

8 ай бұрын

@@shippendales8543 You're right, all criticism for now should be taken with a grain of salt. The full season is what really matters. Still, those can be judged for what they are as of now. I was one of the few that really like the 2 first episodes of Andor, but quite a bit of people found them boring and directionless. I guess it's my turn to feel the same, but the direction of Ashoka really doesn't help. (like there's 3 lighsaber action scenes, how come it manages to feel slower than Andor)

You guys nag about EVERYTHING...its just fine geeesh

What did you think of episode 5?

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

Eh...some good stuff but as a whole, didn't love it. Ep 4 was MUCH better.

Have to admit the two episodes were slow-burn compared to the animated series Clone Wars/Rebels. Then again Ahsoka is now in her 40's? so her outlook has changed. She is more like Old Ben Kenobi in her attitude.

I wish people would get over the fact of believing Filoni wrote any episodes for the Clone Wars & Rebels. He was just an executive producer. He obviously got to the point of believing his own hype like Patty Jenkins. And look what Jenkins did with Wonder Woman 84.

Love to see you make a video on Rebel Moon

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

Coming soon!

Overall I enjoyed it. I have some concerns moving forward but giving it a fair chance. For me. The best part was the villains. I find them all interesting and hope they stay that way. I've only watched Rebels season 1 so I'm not as interested in the side characters so far. I'm watching for Ahsoka. I agree with your takes. Other concern. There's only 6 episodes left. Can they tell a complete season story?

i personally really enjoy this show. i also grew up with the clone wars like many others and rebels i only recently watched and finished. i’m 21 now and seeing a main character from my childhood get this live action show is amazing

I actually like it so far. And that’s from someone who couldn’t finish Andor and felt a full meh for both Mando and Boba…

Im liking the dark Jedi, 9r whatever they are. Their pretty impressive

You REALLY make up your mind too EARLY. I highly recommend watching episodes 4-6 and reevaluating. Some of the best Star Wars content in years. Even tone and great themes. Hoping you make an updated video

Yea I dropped it after episode 4. After Andor, nothing hits the same in the Star Wars universe.

To be honest. The 1st year plus that stitched together movie theater film was pretty rough. Nobody remembers that apparently.

Especially after watching the brilliant filmmaking in display in Andor, Ahsoka is like creative and aesthetic backsliding. The idea of stopping Thrawns return is fascinating but the dialogue is poor (often relying on dull exposition and wooden delivery) and the direction is completely static with many dull shot reverse shot composition with washed out images and poor choreography of any action which is given a lot of attention and thus requires equal critique. The philosophy on display in Ahsoka just screams stretch the run time as characters speak as if they are unaware of the world around them. Mostly it fails as a show and isn’t given the time of day if it isn’t Star Wars. It isn’t awful. But it’s the bare minimum.

I don't see how a series doing well, even reasonably well, among fans as "off to a rough start" because of any particular individual's reaction to it. It isn't necessary to see Rebels or an Ahsoka recap to understand it. It enhances it. It's fun to grasp parts you might miss. But it isn't dependant on it. And that's an aside from the fact that not every Star Wars property needs to be specifically crafted to bring in new fans. We have so many other Star Wars properties that can do that, the films notwithstanding. A single project can be target fandom, even if thought that's not what this series does. It's just doesn't ignore the past as if it's a thing that will confuse people if they learn a new thing then didn't know before.

I liked the tone and performances. Tired of MCU type comedy that was seeping into Star Wars. I like the melancholy vibe it has.

@nope5657

8 ай бұрын

Star Wars was never melancholy. It's got zip, zap, pizzazz - it's swashbuckling and operatic and high melodrama. Even the most "mature" SW like Andor understands this. Nothing else on the show side sans maybe Mando season 1 gets this.

@thegoodreylo4749

8 ай бұрын

This just feels LIFELESS

Why are these hack writers not creating their own stories? 🤔

@RomanPhilosopher

8 ай бұрын

No one buys original scripts in hollywood

I really used to love this franchise but honestly Kenobi severely wounded my love then Mando s3 quietly killed it to the point i have no hype for this show ill probably watch it when a few more episodes are out which is nuts since i still love Ashoka Tano

A total disappointment, Disney has ruined Star Wars, first the stupid cartoons and now bad series after bad series.

I don’t understand how you say the show is in limbo between the hardcore and new fans. That’s what this show needed. It needed to bring in the majority who haven’t seen Rebels while remembering their fans.

I like how this guy gives his opinions on the first 2 episodes and is waiting for the rest before he judges the whole series

Nonsense..Ahsoka is fantastic..😊

@goodputin4324

8 ай бұрын

Nope 😊

@jonathantoymaker

8 ай бұрын

@@goodputin4324 Yes 😁

Well i liked it, this just feel like your following the hate trend

@Me-not_you

8 ай бұрын

I agree, I feel like people are just saying like “it felt hollow” but really can’t explain what that e

@dancingvalkyrie

8 ай бұрын

Complaining about hate is a pathetic defense

@tstreb66

8 ай бұрын

I agree, this dude is just looking to complain and pull shit out of his hat of complaints that don't exist.

@properromanwoman.2813

8 ай бұрын

@@Me-not_you it felt super hollow compared to what we've been conditioned to expect from animated Sabine/Clone Wars' Ahsoka. the acting was flat, wooden, lifeless, and their dialogue was just boring. it took some characters 10 minutes to say something that could have been communicated in 10 seconds.

@aquiestapedro

8 ай бұрын

14.000 years of star wars lore and we are in the same era same plantes same characters same trash You guys are a joke

I enjoyed the first two episodes and disagree about them dragging - they flew by for me. I think Rosario Dawson plays her well and was a good casting choice, but she seems to be too short for Ahsoka, or maybe just not lanky enough. It throws things off for me a little, particularly the saber duals and her interactions with Hera and Sabine, as the scale is off. Ahsoka is one of my favorite characters, and has my favorite fighting style out of all the sabre wielders - incredibly fast and fluid with her motions, but also very graceful. Dawson does a commendable job, but Feloni hasn't really captured the essence of her style. Again, just a nitpick, but the fact that fanboys are altering fight scenes to make them more compelling tells me I'm on to something.

Nothing will beat Andor when it comes to star wars series imo. Andor moves away from all the childish playful fight scenes that star wars is known for and really puts some grit and darkness into its scenes.

To go from rebels where we had complete, established character arcs, there live action counterparts feel and act like completely different characters, I also think the overall direction for the actors is poor and needs to be improved.

This comment section is making me lose brain-cells. So many braindead Disney fans that seem personally offended that he isn't loving the show as much as them (even though he's literally saying it could get better) and making the dumbest excuses for the show.

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

hahaha thank you for this

*me holding my Star Wars Visions Posters happy and content*

The difference being that Thrawn will most likely be the formidable and evil tactical genius his followers want him to be and take charge, unlike the "deconstructed" hobo and character assassination that was Jake Skywalker.

The Acolyte can’t get here soon enough. The fans’ STUPID reaction to The Last Jedi led to this cringeworthy phase of ‘fanservice Star Wars’

This dude is crazy. Ahsoka is awesome. I love Sabine.. I just feel like a lot of these guys want to hate on everything and they think that’s the weather gonna make money because look we’re commenting about it. But Asoka is one of my favorites now. I didn’t even watch this video. This is pure heat, and he thinks he speaks for a lot of people but he doesn’t.❤ahsoka. Some people just like to hear them self talk.

Understandable filmspeak My Aunt doesn’t want to see the Animated series (cus they are animated ) but I do feel she will be extremely confused by the events of Ashoka The Clone Wars and Rebels , however This series first 2 episodes was pretty good Start I hope it continues to be good to its finale Also What are your Thoughts on Blue Beetle now that it’s released in theaters ? i thought it was really Good as well Capturing the Emotional moments in film and a interesting villain Carapax being a Naruto emotional Villain I gave the film a 9/10 in my review (in Insta)

As expected the comment section largely disagrees with this video, i for one agree with your points.

You trippin homie

I litteraly started watching and instantly just started looking at my phone.. That says a lot as a life long star wars fan.. Over 33 years of active fandom.. I just don't care anymore

Some good ideas in the show. I have to give you a downvote for not confronting the raising Sabine as a padawan issue. Sabine having no force powers/sensitivity and Ahsoka having disdain for the Jedi ways. That rewrite of Sabine is grating to say the least. Still watching to see where this goes. Hope the payoff is worth it.

Calm down bro! 2 episodes

They're great episodes

Lingering shots on characters, props, and locations I have no idea about is not a way to introduce new viewers to 'Rebels'. It's just confusing. Who is Ezra Bridger, why are we staring at a bunk for so long? Who are all of these characters Ahsoka seems to have tons of unsaid history with?

Where is the Twitter fight link?

@FilmSpeak

8 ай бұрын

Link in description

@codyeasonBGR

8 ай бұрын

​​@@FilmSpeak thanks, man will look in the description. So happy you made this video. You and I had a lot of the same feelings about this show. Did you find the edits between the spoken lines so very long? Had to edit my first question their. It was written so poorly I think only you understood it. 😂

I'm pretty much exactly where you are.

They nerfed her in shows she kills inquisitors easy and took 2 on and won and in this she struggled against one and a droid

@lyleabrahams

8 ай бұрын

characters are not all equal in strength.

I mean if its not for you its fine, but we are literally just 2 episodes in. Its a little early make call, much less a video essay.

0:39: 📺 Disney Plus Star Wars shows have been a mixed bag, with cancelled shows and weak releases, but Dave Filoni's work on Clone Wars and Rebels was great. 4:13: 🍿 The reviewer feels that the new Star Wars series, The Bad Batch, is caught between catering to fans of the previous show and trying to appeal to new viewers. 8:01: 📺 The live-action shows on Plus have issues with pacing, being either too fast or too slow. 12:05: 😕 The video criticizes the lack of emotional resonance, pacing issues, and stiff acting in the episode. 16:22: 🎥 The video criticizes the action scenes in Star Wars for lacking excitement and investment, but praises a fan-made enhanced version of a lightsaber duel. 20:24: 📺 The video discusses the potential storyline involving Ahsoka, Thrawn, and the former Jedi, as well as the contrast between different character relationships. 24:29: 📺 The video discusses the character development of Ahsoka in the remaining episodes of the show, focusing on her journey to move on from the old ways and her guilt of not being there to save Anakin from turning to the dark side. Recap by Tammy AI

This is really the first time that Disney is releasing something that relies so heavily on the cartoons that carried the franchise for the period between the prequels and sequels. It's lore is so detached from the movies that the wider audience is aware of, a lot of work has to be done to lay down groundwork for the fans who are into the live action but not so much the animated media. In my opinion and many of my friends who are SW fans, they are loving the show thru the first 3 episodes. As a matter of fact, I wish they would have shown a bit more a slow pace for episode 3. they packed it full of events that they just ran through in ~30 minutes and didn't feel satisfying by the end credits roll.

Tbh, I have issues with some of what has happened in the show, but not enough to throw me off. I kind of love thay it's a continuation of Rebels to be honest.