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@SpammytheHedgehog

Жыл бұрын

It had fallen from grace. 📉

@CalAndAly

Жыл бұрын

I felt honestly insulted after the scientist episode that they thought that was good enough to hold anyone’s attention in 2023. I honestly was so turned off I just stopped watching after that. I don’t care what plot filling thing it was suppose to be for or exploring their thoughts post empire, just terrible slogging dialogue and elementary notions compared to Andor’s nuance - just like you described, boring NPCs. People have moved away from whimsical feel good nostalgia with no depth. The world is dark, we need something dark enough to mirror that and be believable to actually be immersed. That’s what Andor did. Even Lucas wrote Star Wars about American imperialism, which is some dark shit when you aren’t on the winning side. The Ewoks were the Viet Cong he said in an interview once. My time is just too valuable to not be watching something that’s actually entertaining and immersive with emotional depth and creative nuance. Andor had it. The new Jedi Survivor game has it, being pretty damn real and dark. Kenobi had the worst child actor nepo baby that was so cringe dreadful to watch on screen. Just why bother.

@ACompletelyRandomGuy

Жыл бұрын

There is already a confirmed season 4 as well.

@uk82punkz

Жыл бұрын

in one word? - SHIT! totally lost the spirit from the original three. might be something to a jar-jar fan but for the fans - a great disappointment.

@WhiteSharkfsul

9 ай бұрын

Raid sucks

Personally, after binging through Tony Gilroy's Andor I said to myself "There's no way the Mandalorian's gonna top brilliant writing like this." And I was right.

@hopegalaxy

Жыл бұрын

Right you were.

@danyknight9107

11 ай бұрын

In my personal opinion I think that The Mandalorian dosent need to top that level of writing, it will be amazing if it could but M is a show more directed towards western space fun action adventure or a least that was the premise for the S1 and S2 but then came 3 and all fall apart, the first two seasons feel at least consistent, this season, consistency was trow out of the window and logic was buried under that Mandalore subterranean lake/sea thing where the Mithosaur is. For me at least is enough with the show to be fun and consistent(we can have enormus writing on Andor S2) but right now am very worried about Mando and all Favreau/Filoni related stuff

As an enormous fan of season 1, season 2 started to kill the show, and season 3 just feels like a sad, pathetic corpse, bumbling around.

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s almost gotten too busy for it’s own good with writers who don’t know what to do.

@Excalibruh2004

Жыл бұрын

I prefer season 2 over season 1, but I agree. The darksaber and Bo Katan made it lose its way.

@dapperdan9470

Жыл бұрын

@@Excalibruh2004 this is no longer the way

@lstarkiller1

Жыл бұрын

Season 2 started to kill the show? How? I loved season 2. We had more locations compared to season 1, cooler locations, so many amazing guest appearances, and an absolutely unforgettable season finale.

@positivetakes5592

Жыл бұрын

I still liked Season 2 as well as the Boba Fett episode. I actually don't seem to hate Season 3 as most either even though I think stunt casting Lizzo was a bad idea

This season made me realize how much I miss andor

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

Yeah my thoughts exactly

@leogolive

Жыл бұрын

Facts Andor is a really good show. It’s not the Star Wars most people think of but that’s what I actually liked about it. I liked Rogue One as well.

@ultraviolet540

Жыл бұрын

@@leogolive I think Rogue One & Andor are the only consistently good live action SW since the Original 3.

@joeyskywalker1322

11 ай бұрын

@@ultraviolet540 Andor was okay but Rouge One wasn’t needed and literally didn’t add anything to Star Wars lore I think people loved that movie because of the Star Wars scene

@BlackSunRX2008

10 ай бұрын

​@@joeyskywalker1322Rogue One fixes one of the biggest plot holes in Star Wars. I mean, you'd build a gigantic expensive space fortress with a glaring failure?! How convenient that this huge treat has this easily exploitable weakness

It’s painfully obvious that the writers wanted to continue the story without Grogu but Disney stepped in and forced their hand. It’s so annoying that the genuine and emotional ending of Season 2 got immediately undercut and erased, and by a storyline that occurred in an entirely separate show no less. Then Din Djarin is effectively replaced by Bo Katan as the main character, which isn’t the worst since Bo Katan is a pretty good character, but the problems with Pedro Pascal not being on set really started showing and the performance felt very phoned in. I’m not sure how the show gets back on the rails if there is a season 4 unfortunately.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

yeah uh, the other mistake they made was setting up mando to lead the mandalorians and making boka refuse to all of season 2 only for both of these things to flip around for no particular reason in season 3.

@Misery7531

10 ай бұрын

Bo katan sucks

@thatoneguy8146

7 ай бұрын

How is Bo a good character, everyone treats her like she is a good person, but she is a literal terrorist and got her sister killed from the clone wars. It bothers me sooo much that characters don’t acknowledge her actions in the clone wars

@Antiklimax1989

6 ай бұрын

She was somewhat redeemed in Rebels. As I said in another thread: The smudger9 fan edits of the Mandoverse greatly improve the pacing and focus of Mando S1-3 and BoBF. Incredibly clever craftsmanship going on there. It is sad that nearly all Disney Star Wars Content drowns its good pieces (if existent) in filler.

@grantponciano9386

3 ай бұрын

To be fair, imagine everything in this season was the same, but without grogu. There were much bigger problems than just letting the doll come back :/

I disagree with putting this on Filoni, considering he wasn’t involved with this season as much as others due to working on Ahsoka, and the episode he did actually write (episode 7) was one of the best this season, I blame Faverau more

@JinxTheLooneyToon915

11 ай бұрын

And Kathleen Kennedy. Don't forget her.

@stianaandal1488

11 ай бұрын

Blame Disney + who wanted more feminism

I honestly thought that S2 and S3 would be about Din and Gideon. I thought there was a past between the two characters hence Gideon knew Din's name. Kinda sad that Gideon turned into a muscled villain.

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

Omg I'm so glad someone mentioned that, I wondered for so long how Gideon knew Din's name. I thought they met at some point but it was never addressed

@azrieldalusong5042

Жыл бұрын

Never in my life I want SW to be reboot again so badly.

Personally, I don't hate the show. I liked season 3 and episode 6, but I have to say it was a little disappointing. I am thankful that the fanbase is finally realizing that Dave isn't the second-coming of Lucas (or if he is he suffers from similar problems), and I'm also glad that the fanbase in general doesn't seem to be as divided over this as they were with the sequels. I'll take mediocrity or monotony over the civil wars of five years ago any day of the week.

@officialmonarchmusic

Жыл бұрын

I definitely wouldn't say Filoni and Lucas have similar problems. Lucas has always focused on telling stories. He can be conservative with content because it all matters to him. Filoni, while not the worst at this, will be more likely to use content as purely set up for what he sees as important.

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, same

@cinemagoose

Жыл бұрын

@@officialmonarchmusic Yeah. I guess I just meant that both their problems most often come into play in the writing stages of their endeavors. They are great at everything else, but the writing is not great. And besides, though I know that Lucas doesn't really care about the minutae of his universe it does give me pause, but he is also the guy responsible for Maul's return in clone wars (even though it was excellent) and later wrote another Maul return for his sequel trilogy drafts. It gives major Filoni vibes.

@jandjhroco

Жыл бұрын

Based on what I've seen/heard, season 3 of mando was heavily influenced by people above Filoni. Seems reasonable that higher ups at Disney decided they needed Grogu back because he would bring more sales for merchandise.

@cinemagoose

Жыл бұрын

@@jandjhroco that's the classic excuse. Everybody says Filoni couldn't have changed the show because KK changed the show. Well he still signed off on the final product, so he must've agreed with some of it.

I think Andor has spoiled us to much. It showed us just how much potential and greatness a Star Wars series can have after so many dissapointments or medicore experiences.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

yeah I agree. the only time i bought disney plus ever was for andor lol

My husband and I never thought we’d be turning off Mando! We loved season 1 and pretty much season 2.. season 3 we slogged through it but eventually stopped watching. There was zero motivation to watch it. Everyone lives through every fight. Nothing bad ever really happens to create tension or thrill. Boring af. And we couldn’t get through the side shows to even understand what was going on the whole time. So- really disappointing.

The Mandalorian sure has a lot of potential. The plot and characters have a lot of depth to them. We can see how this show progresses as each season passes.

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

If only they were interested in developing those story lines and characters in any real meaningful way...*sigh*

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

So true

@chuckv248

Жыл бұрын

I think "had a lot of potential" really sums up a lot of Star Wars content recently. That potential doesn't mean much if they don't do anything with it.

@Digger-Nick

Жыл бұрын

Andor really exposed how mediocre and shallow it was

@INFILTR8US

Жыл бұрын

Found the Disney plant

I just love the part when Din gave the Darksaber to Bo on a "technicality". Isn't it amazing that the woman who single handedly led Mandalore to its destruction was given the saber for a 2nd time? Oh, and I just about jumped for joy when she destroyed it. Yup. That was just so awesome. Look, I used to love Bo. But now they made me not like her. Season 3 was such a disappointment. Thankfully, we have Jedi: Survivor now to brighten our days.

@lilpatchface4325

Жыл бұрын

She didn’t destroy it. Gideon did

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

dude, the fact that they just pissed away the dark saber into the wind for no just reason at all immediately made me question who made this show. cause I assume both dave and john both have enough brain cells in their noggins to know that's not a good idea story wise

@Cobalt-Blue22.

11 ай бұрын

@RMW EXACTLY. I feel like the shoe was sabotaged.

Season 2 already suffer from cameos for other shows but thia season sucked, who is the main character?

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

So true…

I’m a big Boba Fett fan (whoop dee doo) but when I heard he was getting his own show after Mando I was like “hell yeah!” but after suffering through it I’ve never been so disappointed with how a beloved character has been mistreated and I’ve seen that Halo show

Andor really spoiled some fans with good writing. Season 2 ended so nicely with Grogu and Din parting ways, to give them breathing space to develop without each other's presence. Instead, we got this. There some good episodes, but overall lowest so far for Mando. Also, the background CGI is becoming tiring, unlike Andor's real set locations (which they spend enormous money on!)

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

biggest mistake ever was bringing back grogu. din needed sometime to build up his own character a little more and acquire a new villain or rival other than Gideon.

5:53, 9:37 Apparently Favreau was writing the whole season by himself cause Dave was busy with Ahsoka's show. Disney supposedly also forced Favreau to change his original plans because they force Grogu to return early. I'll probably make my mind up about him as a creative lead after the Ahsoka show came out, since he wrote all of the episodes of Ahsoka.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

the firing of Gina Carano also removed a chunk of the story favro had planned.

The first two seasons I thought were great because they would appeal to multiple ages and a new fan base. You didn't have to be a long time Star Wars fan to appreciate it. Third season I definitely felt I was missing a lot. I haven't seen any of the animated series so I was a bit lost and felt like the show wasn't for me but for more hard core fans. I can still appreciate it but I know I'm missing context. I think the same will be true for Ahsoka.

@ondrejmaceska6196

Жыл бұрын

I have seen the clone wars and still didn't like this, at all, maybe even less than you, because I know star wars can be much, much better.

@edwardhill7297

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, huge clone wars fan here and mando season 3 was a miss for me. They wanna put bo katan's mandalore plot into a random group of characters and because she's from a different show it just feels like they can't explore it properly. And why is baby yoda back, i watched boba fett but they dont even have a narrative for him, he just gets a robot. There's just too much and not enough at the same time.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

your absolutely correct. this is the problem with dave's characters butting their heads into this show. most people other than clone wars fans and comic enjoyers aren't aware of who these people are and what they're even supposed to represent. Also as a clone wars fan who does have the background knowledge of these characters i can safely say you aren't missing much. if anything these characters are being dumbed down for the plots sake. either way, I understand your grievances with them.

Honestly im drained of the retake mandalore plot. It was in clone wars, rebels and mandalorian like jesus leave the damn plot alone!

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

Lol 😆 understandable

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

thank you for reminding me that 3 separate factions have fought over a desolate rock lol

@thedarkestfateful

11 ай бұрын

Good observation. Now that I think about it, every time there’s Mandalorians involved, I can now expect a “retake” Mandalore plot line to be announced 😂

I've said this before and I'll say it again, but The Mandalorian suffers from a severe lack of imagination and wiliness to take creative risks. Everything is simple, blunt, direct and as such there's no depth or dimension to anything because everything can be taken at face value. It has been three seasons and I still have no idea what Mandalorian culture or society is like beyond a list of trivial facts. What are their rites of passage? Why does the no remove helmet rule exist? What are their customs and traditions? I honestly have no clue and that makes "The is The Way" some empty and hollow catchphrase that can be used to justify any course of action. Also like the Klingons from Star Trek, where are the farmers, scientists, engineers, and laborers in Mandalorian society; everyone can't be a warrior. It has been three seasons and Din is more or less the exact same character since the first episode. Sure he's warmed up to Grogu and adopted him, but aside from that there has been no change in his character. He hasn't grown from his journey, learned anything that transformed him as a person, or even made mistakes that would make him regress; he's just been standing still for three seasons and because of that's there no arc to his character. If it wasn't for his relationship with Grogu, you could replace him with anyone else and the story would be the same. As for Grogu, he's still a baby and thanks to that he's going to be incapable of complex characterization for decades in-universe; so his existence as a marketing ploy will only continue. As such there's no conflict between between Din, Grogu, Bo-Katan, or any of the characters or factions. Conflict is what drives a story forward but whenever conflicts comes up, the show always looks for the easy way out. Mando and Bo-Katan fighting over the darksaber. Oh Mando gets captured by some weird cyborg and is rescued by her and now she gets ownership. Two entirely different sects of Mandalorians hate each and have to work together. Oh one side decides to abandon one of their most important, and only, sacred beliefs to accept others and both sides integrate instantly without any disagreements or disputes. The only exception to this is Moff Gideon who is just there to be evil and do evil stuff because he's evil. All of this just goes to my original complain. I do not know if it's Jon Favreau or Dave Filoni, but they just do not have the desire or creativity to elevate this show outside of it's comfort zone. They know people watch this show because Baby Yoda is cute, Mando is a badass, to see cameos and references from the rest of the Star Wars franchise, and that's about it. For a while that was fine, but now that Andor has come out and really shown us what a Star Wars show can truly be when it tries, just being fine isn't good enough anymore.

“It’s like a bunch of NPCs giving mission orders” That, right there, is in my opinion the biggest issue with the Star Wars universe in the Disney days. The reason I loved The Last Jedi (and later despised The Rise Of Skywalker) is because it felt like it was trying to be something more than an endless mcguffin quest. Wether it was well executed or not is a different debate (and tbh I like it quite a bit), but it was nice to have a piece of Star Wars media that wasn’t all cool planets and sci-fi-esque buzz words thrown around.

@officialmonarchmusic

Жыл бұрын

I mean, to me and many others, it still was at times. I feel like I shouldn't have to like something just because of it being different. It needs to be good as well. And in many ways, it wasn't different.

@TomCruz54321

Жыл бұрын

I don't even consider Rise of Skywalker as a movie, it's just a compilation of unrelated Tiktok clips. Plot happens for no reason, characters jump from place to place. It's like that video that you watch while riding the rollercoaster.

@szero7429

10 ай бұрын

​@@TomCruz54321it's like a pachinko machine full of unrelated clips for the sake of having clips

Filoni is only credited for writing 2 episodes this season 4 and 7 so I think your putting a lot of unfair blame on him his focus has been Ahsoka this season is majority Favs work and honestly I wish he’d get help or have others go over with him because you can see Favs style all over this season it’s the same with Book of Boba Fett the filoni written episodes being significantly better than the rest of the show

@theflashgordon193

Жыл бұрын

what were feloni episode with boba fett ?

@officialmonarchmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@theflashgordon193 Episode 6. Probably the best episode of the season.

@TheDawnofVanlife

Жыл бұрын

TV writing doesn’t happen in a bottle. While someone ultimately gets the majority script credit/assignment the show’s sketch, main ideas, plots, and (more than likely) character inclusions are mostly decided in the outlining process before people break off to script individual episodes. Or should be so that however many writers pen the individual scripts, the overall season knows where it’s going.

@dom3225

Жыл бұрын

He's an executive producer, and you can't tell me that you don't feel his hand all over the show. It's his style regardless of the writer or director for the episode.

@officialmonarchmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@dom3225 Sure, but this is Jon Favreau’s show more than anything else. Besides, this season shows his lack of interest in the matter as he works on Ahsoka

It's taken me awhile to realizes but Filoni really doesn't have original ideas for Star Wars. All of his characters expect Ashoka but he didn't make Ashoka alone. She is his and George's character even then you can say she is Anakin if he didn't fall to the dark side, but his others are all legacy or legends characters watered down or mixed together. Hera is Leia with the piloting skills of Han and Luke, Kanan is Kyle Kartan, Ezra is Kyle Karyan and StarKiller, Zeb is a rejected Chewie with Mandalorian culture, Sabine and Fenn Rau are Fenn Shysa frim legends they even kept the name of the Fenn Rau's troops the same Protector, and Bo-Katan is Shae Vizla.

@thedarkestfateful

11 ай бұрын

I’d say a lot of his ideas come from the old EU, which he reworks in his shows. A lot of that was shown in Clone Wars (ie Dathomir and Nightsisters, Maul’s cyborg legs, Quinlan Vos). They’re usually watered down versions of the actual concept, which is pretty disappointing.

It’s really weird. It’s like as if Frodo gave the ring to Arogorn after the Twin Towers.

Earlier, you told me that you weren't watching this season. After episode 4, I said I wasn't going to watch the REST of the season. Look where we are now lol. Just couldn't help ourselves. Andor, Tales of The Jedi, and The Bad Batch formed a triple hot streak (to offset the double cold streak of BOBF and Kenobi) only to be rudely interrupted by the Mandalorian season 3. It's kind of crazy how we can get great and terrible SW content on the same day even

@officialmonarchmusic

Жыл бұрын

@Matthew Short Why?

I personally still like season 3 but I will agree. It had issues that even I cant get over, like it being all over the place and them not giving the characters more depth. I liked season 1 and 2 as well.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

not gonna say your wrong or anything but the back tracking of bringing grogu back and making din suddenly not want to lead the mandalorians made this a pretty tough sell for me.

@Sasu123456789x1

11 ай бұрын

@@rmw9420 Trust me when I say, I absolutely felt the same. I love Grogu and even I honestly would have perfered they kept Grogu out of this season just to show us, Din missing him and then he gets him back later. And just to let you know, I'm a fanfiction reader and many of the fanfictions go in that route too, of why Din is better off as Mandalore and give so much nuance to his character, his story and his interactions with others among other cool ideas. I genuinely didn't expect this season to go the way it did because it never gave the vibe that Bo-Katan would rule Again... I personally can't hate the series too much because I genuinely like Mando and Mandalorian culture and their potential too, but that's just me.

Andor is definitely spoiled us for good writing. Mando feels so mediocre in comparison. I think they missed out on character development for Mando, he could have overcome his reluctance to be a leader and become a king of Mandalore. Instead he want to swim in specific pond and then chill with Grogu, and he did it without much struggle. And Bo quest to get back mandalore feels empty, because it's a wasteland with one imperial garnison. Take back what and from whom? Third season is one big wasted potential.

This season needed to showcase so much of the Mandalorian political history through flashbacks from when Bo was young up to the night of a thousand tears. That would give the audience something to care about and a reason to be invested in her as a character. This season, to me, confirmed all the rumors around KK and Favreau. Lucasfilm is a complete dumpster for behind the scenes. Disney and Bob Iger will not drop the hammer on KK and actively support this direction in their entertainment division. Until the shareholders lose enough money to demand change, this is the garbage we will continue to receive. We speak loudest with our wallets, so scream if needed. Boycott this hot trash.

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

Honestly yeah, I was so confused why there were no flashbacks

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

a huge problem with dave being so entrenched in the mando shows now is that you kinda NEED clone wars knowledge to get a good idea of why any of the things his characters are talking about or doing are important

The ending was such a mess that lacked any narrative tension and Its logic was more is more. The screen was crammed with people or lasers to flying troops. There are like 3 fights or battles happening at once. Nothing felt at stake. It ended, without an emotional payoff. Mando's little house to live in 'between adventures' felt like something for one of the theme parks. Even the character saying 'in between adventures' makes the whole thing sound contrived. I hope they don't make a mess of Andor and start fooling with it to make it more Mandalorian.

Season 2 left me believing that we were gonna see more mandalorians then the 2 groups we got, and that Bo was gonna be an antagonist to din and boba. Tbh I thought they were gonna potentially set up Tatooine as a surrogate mandalore etc. what we ended up getting was a scattered rushed mess.

This is like the third time bo become ruler of mandolor

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

Omg ikr it needs to be someone else 😫

Finally somebody says it! I've been waiting for someone to admit this show has declined in quality, and not only that, but it's been pretty mediocre from the start. I will concede the first 2 seasons did have some semblance of a core message or central theme, but after season 3 and The Book Of Boba Fett - it is abundantly clear that it serves no purpose except to sell merchandise. the story has no clear direction and every attempt to explore anything deeper falls completely flat because the show contradicts its own message: if the story is about all the Mandalorian clans uniting under one banner and discarding the symbols and traditions of the past, then why have the only reason Bo-Katan's group rejoin her be that she has the darksaber - (a literal symbol of Mandalore's past traditions). Why establish Axe Woves as someone in direct opposition to Mando's culture and beliefs if he is given no moment of comeuppance or growth? They were intent on ending this season triumphantly with the Mandalorians reclaiming their homeworld, without earning that end result.

Years ago you served my childhood in the clone wars. Help me Asoka you're my only hope.

Imo, this whole season was undercut by book of Boba Fett and grogu returning. That should've never happened. Instead season 3 should've started with Din struggling with darksaber due to his exile and loneliness. Add Bo's own despondency about losing the darksaber and the whole mandalorian history and you have several points to build a compelling story on. 1. Bo's desire for darksaber vs her unwilligness to kill Din over it. Added with Din's struggle to use it and general cavalier attitude about it. 2. Clash of the old ways (the Creed) with the new ways (mercenaries) with the history of mandalore. You could build so much just by focusing on Din and Bo and exploring their different positions about mandalorian culture and its history, their own emotional struggles (Din's grief at losing grogu and being exiled, Bo's regret at getting tricked by Gideon and failing her people)... Seriously those conflicts write themselves. Instead of Din giving Bo the darksaber on technicality, show us Bo's emotional journey through her regret (flashbacks and actual dialogue) to finding her resolve to unite mandalorians and challenging Din for the darksaber. And make Din lose due to his own unresolved emotional state and perhaps be inspired by Bo's dedication. Like seriously, you don't have to be even an expert writer to see the potential there. Drop the stupid B-plots of pershing, lizzo and Jack Black and really focus and the Din vs Bo dynamic. Explore the different mando factions and what drives them. And perhaps as a thematic villain, show us Gideon exploiting the division between mando factions for his own souless imperial gain. Don't just make him appear with new fancy beskar armor, show us his parasitic ways of getting there. You can really build a solid season on these three BASIC pillars: 1. Emotional journey and conflict of Bo and Mando 2. Traditionalism vs adaptability of the mando "tribes" 3. Mando unity (represented by Bo) vs Imperial cold utilitarianism (Gideon). Don't bring back grogu and make Bo the main character alongside Din.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

well said. Gina Carano being fired messed a lot of stuff up too

I was not expecting to be watching the Bad Batch first every week they shared releases, but that’s exactly what happened and I don’t regret it for a second, that show was good, because you can tell they have a plan and aren’t making it up as they go along, Tech’s death was infinitely more impactful than random nobody character Paz Vizsla’s, like, besides the fact the dude was kinda cool, who tf cares???? He was no one, he wasn’t a real character, Tech was one

Seasons 1 and 2 great… but wow 3 oh my god that was so bad

@Misery7531

11 ай бұрын

The whole show is so overrated it sucks

I agree about Grogu. They don’t seem to be doing anything with him. He’s just there for ‘insert cute kid moment’. He is handled more and more like a prop on set with the exception of a few moments. If he’s gonna be around, give him some character. Get past babble babble ‘me so cute’.

I definitely feel like Favreu was in charge of a lot of this with Filoni on Ahsoka

What pissed me off is just how sloppy they made Mando in this season. The same dude from season 1 that was constantly quick with it, on guard, strategic and basically a bad ass gunslinger, they made him into a sloppy bitch. Every fucking episode this guy needed his ass saved, current mando is just like a op gun on cod, got Hella nerfed to the point where it's not fun. There was many scenes in s3 where I genuinly questioned why dude is being stupid, when we've seen he can solo no problem.

the entire time i was watching this season, i kept looking down at my mythosaur tattoo with a frown

are we getting that Succession episode when the season ends??

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

If enough people want it!

I have been saying since season 2: they shouod have split the show into different ones. Keep Mando the same as eposodic season 1. Make a companion show, call it like The Outer Rim. And do anthology seasons. Season 1 would be The Outer Rim: Boba Fet. And so on. Might have possibly have been better. Maybe.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

not a bad idea tbh

This season almost made me done with star wars. But Bad Batch saved me from doing that because of how good that second season was compared to Mando

Star Wars is best when it’s based on old Japanese cinema. Mandolorian season 1 was lone wolf and cub.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

or OG spaghetti western

this is the way

Dude Disney is straight giving us Gerber baby food sprinkled with some nostalgia, it’s sickening. I am not some baby consumer I need substance 😂

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

Man you’re preaching to the choir here haha it’s so frustrating

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

True

I wouldnt go as far as sucked. It's just mid, solid 6/10. They need to increase the no. of episodes to accommodate the one-off, world building plots. OR they need to get rid of all that and tell us a more focused and singular plot like Andor or british tv series.

The Mandalorian and Boba Fett deserve some Andor type redemption when it comes to the reputation of the former two. And that's coming from someone who finds Andor to be overhyped, IMO.

@Sasu123456789x1

Жыл бұрын

Omg I completely agree. They are two of my favorite characters but the shows aren't presenting that in the best way.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

im be completely honest with you man. 2 things: the time has passed for something like that to happen and i don't think the andor formula of story telling and writing would work for characters like them. just my op tho

@wickdaline8668

4 күн бұрын

​@rmw9420 You may be right, and you probably are.

I thought most people thought Obi-Wan sucked. That show had no stakes since we knew the main characters were definitely gonna survive.

The incompetence and political agendas of Disney as a whole has made me lose a lot of confidence in their ability to create good movies and shows. That is why their movies are bombing. I’m not investing my money in a Star Wars, MCU, or Disney movie until they’ve proved they are able to create good stories. Otherwise, it’s just a waste of my time.

Agree with everything you said. But Dave Filoni is not the Creative lead of this show. Jon Favreau is. And this is probably the most Favreau season yet since Filoni was most likely busy with Bad Batch, Tales of the Jedi and Ahsoka

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

Ehhh they both are. Favs just writes a lot of the scripts so I mean he shoulders A LOT of the blame too.

I liked season 1 and 2, even with the flawes. But season 3 felt all over the place. The big moments in the season felt empty and were not satsifying imo. On the other hand, I enjoyed Bad Batch S2 much more (not something I expected when the season started). It also had the mission of the week episodes but with more impact. The stakes felt much higher and I was more invested in the characters (Crosshair, Tech). With season 3 being the final season of BB I hope they can stick the landing.

An episodic story about a loner wondering here and there, trying to accomplish a goal has already been done by a great show called “Samurai Jack”. They could have just copied that and been fine.

I'm honestly with you man. While season 1 and 2 nailed the "star wars" aesthetic which is enough for a lot of more casual fans, it never nailed the storytelling and I am of the opinion that it's been mid at best and absolutely awful at worst.

this show's writing is so bad lmao and people scrambling to absolve filoni and favreau of any responsibility in this mess is annoying. and now people are claiming that these two really made a bad season "on purpose"? i don't buy it. yes everyone knows kennedy sucks but fans find any excuse to not blame filoni and favreau and it's getting old. if it's good, it's because of them! if it's bad oh it's all kennedy/disney right? it can't be all of the above. visions had zero involvement from filoni and it gave us creativity and originality that was lacking in this ip since disney took over. we need more artists, writers and creative talents who know what they're doing instead of hacks banking purely on nostalgia in some of the most shallow ways.

The Rise of Skywalker and everything that followed it has been so bad I didnt even bother watching this season. Star wars has lost all its charm imo

I loved season 1, it was one of the first live action shows I've watched and got me into watching series. I also really liked S2 too although it was a bit formulaic. But I watched 1 episode of S3 and it felt off, so I was going to wait for it to all come out but then everyone was disappointed so Idk what now...

@achaudhari101

Жыл бұрын

Watch it now that it’s done.

My biggest criticism of Star Wars recently is just how much it focuses on Mandalorians. Under Lucasfilm the biggest appearance Mandalorians had was what? KOTOR? And that was mostly from their influence on the story. Yet so many Star Wars projects these days have to heavily feature Mandalorians. Boba Fett and Mandalorian for obvious reasons. Then The Clone Wars series featured Mandalore pretty heavily, and Rebels revisited the Mandalore stuff (even bringing back the Darksaber). At least Disney seems to moving away from it slowly with Andor and Obi Wan, but please, Disney. The SW galaxy is made up of hundreds of thousands of different peoples and cultures with thousands of warrior cultures. Focus on literally any other culture!

@ergob3907

Жыл бұрын

At least its not rebels or the empire. I'm so sick of those two factions especially since neither had any place existing a least in the state they were in the Sequels.

I quit “Andor” at episode seven. I can’t stand Andor as a character. He’s so boring. I didn’t care for any of the characters.

Did you know that The Batman used the volume to incredibly good effect? Particularly the rooftop scenes and car chase. 9:07

This season is pretty much a build up for the rebuilding of mandalore. We have been seeing fights and fights and fights, we have never seen day to day activities and the culture of a race until now. We are watching the comeback of a warrior race who have been purged to near extinction by the empire. Star Wars is more than just lightsaber fights, gunfights and the use of the force. This season was not bad but it wasnt that good either, i view it as a stepping stone for the mandalorian race. I feel like most of the complaints are towards mandalorian shifting towards the race instead of focusing on grogu and din djaran. People just arent patient enough for story buildup already, its sickening

I really enjoyed it. I'm watching it and it's fine. It's trendy to hate on Star Wars. Everybody's a Red Letter Media cuz it's cool to be a hater. I enjoyed it, I turned it off when it was over and moved on with my life. I'm not 8 anymore so I realized that it's a TV show. Did I forget my crushing depression for the length of the show? Yes. Was it as good as a 7 year old in 1977? No. Nothing will and I'm self reflective enough to know that because I'm not 7 anymore. Andor is amazing and this is pretty damn good. Bravo.

The thing that bothers me the most about Bo-Katan: She is a failed leader. Not once, not twice, but three times. Once in TCW, once in Rebels, and again in The Mandalorian. Why the hell the Mandalorian people would ever follow her again blows my mind. At the end of the day, Disney doesn't understand Star Wars, and as much as the defenders of it want to say they do, that's how we end up with things such as Season 3 of Mando, BoBF, and Kenobi. They don't understand the fundamental aspects of what makes these characters great, then by trying to make it in the way that they seem fit, it just falls apart when it's finally all pushed together.

It all has become a giant mess. Profits have ripped what entertainment used to be. This is beyond sad. This will never end.

Basically every single thing you said is full on point.great video man

This particular season felt like a colossal waste of time. The standouts to me are the Coruscant episode and the first visit to Mandalore. These were fascinating episodes on their own but they either set things up and don't follow through or they finish it off too quickly so they get lost in all the noise of the rest of the season surrounding them. That's just what most of this season was: incorherant, nonsensical, irrelevant noise. When the season ended with the liberation of Mandalore, I felt nothing especially since they had already carved out a piece of land on Navarro to call their new home so why go back at all? It seems to me all those Mandos died for no reason other than "We're homesick." Visiting post-apocalyptic Mandalore was cool but I think this would've ended better if they didn't retake Mandalore, if they failed, that most of the clans involved were wiped out and all that was left was Din and Grogu(and maybe Bo Katan because Katee Sackhoff is awesome.) Where the show could go from there? I have no idea but it would've made the season more impactful.

Season 3 was seasoned with 💩

I have more hope for Ahsoka and the eventual Mandalorian era movie than I do with these mid story shows. It seems like some of these stories are pay offs and very important while others are just stalling for time.

@vyntarus9618

4 ай бұрын

Do you still have that hope?

@datguy3581

4 ай бұрын

@@vyntarus9618 No

@datguy3581

4 ай бұрын

@@vyntarus9618 Nope

If that's the case it sounds like the doing the same thing with Bo that they did with Tela did on He Man

KK forced rewrites repeatedly. KK forced Mando into Book of Boba.

Couldn’t have said it better myself……thanks for making sure Andor gets the props it deserves

We need more Tony Gilroy and less Filoni 😢

Spot on. S1 was weak but that's actually super-good today. S3 is much, much worse....

I've hated the mandalorian for so many years its what adults only care and talk about not clone wars or the clone wars non of them and im glad this turned to shit even the sequels are better than this non animated bullshit

This season was terrible on many fronts but making a character like Bo Katan the lead was especially dumb, general audiences only knew her form Mando S2 so why would they care about her???. If they were gonna make her a co-lead at least they could have sticked to the messy angry Bo we knew from Clone Wars who was once power hungry. It'd have been a nice arc for her to realize she doesn't have to lead to help Mandalore, cuz she's tried 2 times already and failed miserably. Instead we got the boring misunderstood princess who did no wrong!!!. Also pls don't call the children of the watch a cult, they're just religious Mandalorians who have a kind of covering rule. Choice is important to them and that doesn't align with how a cult works (all the people in the series who called them cultists/zealots did it in mockery, so it's supposed to be wrong as they have showed us they're willing to accept other Mandalorians -even if it was poorly written).

There’s no LORE for the MandaLORians, it’s been written, there’s a whole language we haven’t heard once, 6 named mando characters, ignoring all the mando world building from rebels, hated this season

Mando was always mid. Great limited action scenes, Easter eggs and lore. Though the show had one good story line with Luke that boba fett destroyed and it was paced horribly when there wasn’t action.

I got to episode 3 and just stopped watching. I was bored with it. Kenobi just ruined my enthusiasm for Star Wars. I will give Ashoka a chance. I also tried to like Andor but got bored with it also.

Should have been the mandalorian, the mandalorian: the book of boba fett and the mandalorian: the book of Bo katan

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You are completely right and you'll only enjoy these lame shows if you're already a fan of it... except Andor. That show is awesome! I finally got my friends interested in Star Wars thanks to it.

Disney in general hasn't put out anything quality in quite some time. I mean look at Marvel. The last good movie was Guardians 3 and Disney had nothing to do with how good that was, that was all James Gunn. Once Disney realizes story should come first rather than making sure diversity is forced into every story regardless if it fits or not...and from the looks of it, they're not going to stop that bullshit anytime soon

Fans are slaves to nostalgia and cameos. Nothing happened in this season that should have taken a season worth of episodes. We really sat through Mando saying he can only get to the living Waters with ig just to get a trash droid and do it regardless. Who was the other spy? Why did Paz die when he had a jet pack or hell why did Bo cut the other way, Paz took out the fleet alone. Mando never lost in a fight, he was trapped. Mandalorians are supposed to be the greatest warriors but didn't know they were running into a trap and somehow always fall victim to wildlife. This was nothing but loud CGI to distract idiots from the fact that nothing is going on. And the show is the Mandalorian, not plural, he's addressed as the title or Mando, but they basically Jon Snow'd my dog 🤦🏾‍♂️

Mandalorian started plummeting in Season 2.

Yeah, this season really was su-par, (still better than most current fantasy/sci-fi shows - but that aint saying much). And what made this season so disappointing was how great the first two seasons were. Like seriously, those two seasons made this series tied for my number-one favorite live action content in all of Star Wars.

Bro I felt the same way about the show. I only watched the first season because everyone kept saying how great it was 🤷‍♂️

Very well said

Wow I mean....for real?...............I mean this season have easily a lot of problems and I disliked a ton of decisions, but as whole, still wasn't as bad for a RANT LIKE THIS? sure it was easily the weakest, and have some really random bad episodes, but I have seen a lot worse Star Wars so far, this is not the worst (Book or Boba Fett, Obi Wan, The Last Jedi, Rise of the Skywalker, Solo...Resistance did anyone even remember that one?) like those are bad shows and movies, this wasn't that level of BAD, and you speak of Dave Filoni like the man kill someone close to you, chill down man....like did you watch BAD BATCH season 2, airing at the SAME TIME Mandalorian s3...go please tell me the MAN DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE STAR WARS again....oh and he is the same man that give is Tales of the Jedi and Season 7 of Clone Wars....now all sudden everyone hate Dave?...did what the heck was that rant man?.....pick you fights dude, you really confuse the hell out of me, like again I agree, weakest season of Mandalorian and I'm sorry, you like Avatar simple story telling....but somehow, MANDALORIAN SEASON 1 and SUPER MARIO need DEEP PLOTS TO WORK?....as an AVATAR FAN....the F is wrong with YOU? Seriously I want to love your channel and finally subscribe, but then I get this random RANTS about content that quite frankly.....don't earn the RANT.........but somehow you made a video saying....QUANTUMANIA was GOOD..........how I take you serious man?

The Mandalorian season 1 was great, season was pretty good and i didn't even bother watching season 3. I will eventually watch it but after it's hype diesdown.

I'm a Diehard Star Trek fan and I loved the Mandalorian. On episode 4 of season 3 its good. Though it's basically Muppets in Space

A few episodes were good but I don't know if Kathleen Kennedy has something to do with it like everything else but yeah I hope it's better next season.

it was a great show at first but the second we went past like season 2 it just burned to the ground

Yeah him re adopting goku just made no sense. I turned to my brother and was like didn’t he already do this

To address the title of this video.. i quote something poignant master jedi plo koon said to his clones, “NOT TO ME!”

It's just my theory but it seems to have massively dropped in quality since Kathleen Kennedy got involved. Originally The Mandolorian was probably something she didn't think much of as it was a small show. As a result, she wasn't involved so John Favreau and Dave Filoni had complete control. It became more popular than she could have imagined and she panicked. She could see she was losing control so fired Gina Carano to take back control at the end of series 2. She then used her influence with the higher ups to force Baby Yoda back into series 3 under the guise that he made money. This ruined the original plan of Dave Filoni and John Favreau. Now Kathleen Kennedy had control of series 3 she made it all about Bo Katan as she is a woman. Now she had control back she announced the dreadful sounding Rey Palpatine film with that activist director. Bob Iger coming back probably allowed this to happen.

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

she wasn't allowed to touch anything starwars related after the solo movie failed. bob iger sent her off to work on something else and when she got back and found out something had become successful without any of her input or influence she was probably furious lol

@rmw9420

11 ай бұрын

also, Gina Carano being fired threw a wrench into johns already preestablished plan for the mando related shows and over all doomed them to make some corrections that wouldn't exactly look good compared to the original plan. i completely think that gideon was gonna be gina's villain in her show before it was canceled and mando would have gotten a new adversary instead

I prefer the episodes of this show where Din isn't the main character. The adventure of the week stuff isn't for me. Grogu should have stayed with Luke and make Bo the main.

So can I finally say that andor is the superior show? Or am I still gonna get looked at weird?

@FilmSpeak

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely say that! It’s true haha

Wow and I thought us Star Trek fans hated New Trek. Star Wars fans giving us a run for our money. I can't lie I noticed the blah dialog too

miss the days when it felt like watching a space western 🥲

Overall, I did enjoy season 3. I'm just still in a what the fuck kind of headspace over the finale. It felt like a rushed series finale and I just don't understand what they were thinking with it.

In my opnion, The dark saber concept was always really dumb. IDK, i think these choices to expand the mythos are kind boring, dumb and cliché. It kind Lost The Magic of the originals and prequels (I know, they are terrible movies, but they got that star wars spirit). Just like order 66, know Luke os not The last Jedi, there were a bunch, and where was ashoka during The originals? It all seems forced, improvised in a way trying to give more depth but just sounds.... Empty. (I imagine they figured out a reason why ashoka did not appear in the originals, but i'm pretty sure is dumb and contrived)