Great week for the justice system

@xionsflame1

2 жыл бұрын

It's leon!

@brightmorningstar8780

2 жыл бұрын

Sure was a great week for the justice system. It would be great for America if...i dunno maybe a lee harvey oswald fell out the sky......HAHAHAHA IM JUST KIDDING!!!!!

@robertparker6280

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I'd take a drink to that.

@Blank-41

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, this gives me hope it can work as intended. The Casey Anthony case was one of the biggest miscarriages of justice ever seen, I would have no faith if these verdicts went down the same road.

@djbidd007

2 жыл бұрын

Two great results 👍

The common thread in both cases was that the people who were chasing someone down were at fault.

@leyio7453

2 жыл бұрын

Of course.

@rohanjarande

2 жыл бұрын

Rioters don't want to accept that reality.

@em3sis

2 жыл бұрын

@@dgardner2233 The idea is that by chasing, you are no longer the defender, but rather the aggressor. Hard to claim self-defense while being the aggressor, as we can see.

@JohnSmith-zs1bf

2 жыл бұрын

Also, no matter how stupid the person with the gun, don't try to take someones gun

@JohnSmith-zs1bf

2 жыл бұрын

@Finn Witty I'm not blaming Arbery for what he did but whether you're right or wrong - don't go for the gun. I've been held up at gunpoint and if I did what arbery tried I would be dead, too. And I wouldn't care if the other guy went to jail or not. So whether it's a crook or a good guy or cop, rule of thumb is don't grab someone's gun.

Aba, one of the dudes chasing Kyle DID have a gun. He said it in court, Kyle only blew his arm out when he pointed his handgun at him.

@hcook1023

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't even really admit it until given a picture of him pointing the gun at Kyle and told police earlier he never had the gun to try to save his own ass. We have a family friend who's a lawyer and he said the moment the jury watched that footage Kyle would never be convicted of anything but a firearm misdemeanor, and it turns out hunting is big enough in Wisconsin to allow an open carry of rifles above a certain size

@mario125ww

2 жыл бұрын

@@hcook1023 yeah I felt like he would get off. I thought the only charge that would stick would be possession of a gun under age. But in Wisconsin it doesn't matter the age

@Tyreker

2 жыл бұрын

There was actually 2 guys with guns chasing him, the first one fired it in the air which is when Kyle turned around and saw the guy lunging at him and the second is the one your talking about

@dafr9344

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tyreker After he already killed someone. He was looking to start a fight. You can't denied that.

@Tyreker

2 жыл бұрын

@@dafr9344 what?? After Kyle already killed someone he was looking for a fight?? Every piece of footage of Kyle shows him running away, tell me how that looks like he’s looking for a fight? If your talking about the second guy then yeah he was looking for a fight, dude was streaming it and asked Kyle what he was doing and Kyle said “I’m turning myself in” then he aimed his gun at kyles head shortly after

This case was a 180 from Rittenhouse. Arbery, if he were carrying a gun, would have had every right to do the exact same thing as Rittenhouse and I would hope the verdict would have been the same.

@deeznutz8320

2 жыл бұрын

No he would not, Kyle was protecting stores and shops. Auhmad of whatever the fuck this guys name js was trying to steal shit. Apples and oranges

@Amb252

2 жыл бұрын

Kyle was guilty asf he started all that shit

@jon-snow-GOT

2 жыл бұрын

If he had a gun and they killed him they would have gotten away with it easier

@aminahmed719

2 жыл бұрын

But we know better

@zinho934

2 жыл бұрын

Bro. A whíte guy kílls two other whíte guys, gets off innocent and conservatives rejoice. But two whíte guys kill a blàck Amont Arbury, and they get sentenced to prision. I see nothing wrong with this.

The craziest part is the neighbor literally just met the father and son THAT DAY. They said they needed help chasing a guy and without thinking, the guy who recorded the incident said yes. Threw his life away for people he didn’t know.

@jeanniemaycrawford4466

2 жыл бұрын

That was kinda unfair

@olakinrimisi6053

2 жыл бұрын

Truth. That is why critical thinking is key.

@FlightX101

2 жыл бұрын

Welp...this is why you pass this risk over to the cops. If things go wrong be becomes the states problem. Not yours. I have to say this to so many people in high school who always pursue the vigilantee route

@mcjon77

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that. That is nuts. There is no way in the world I am going to chase some dude down on the word of two random dudes that I just met. Now this guy will serve a MINIMUM of 30 years in prison (if the judge grants life WITH parole, which is the minimum for felony murder).

@phantomzxro1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 to be honest I don't think so. He also tried to run that man off the road and get him trapped in a ditch. If he did not know the mcmichael or the guy running, why go so far when you really did not know the situation.

I agree with your final point: folks [knowingly] spreading false/ misinformation ... especially professional media outlets, they need to be sued.

@11Ash11

2 жыл бұрын

@@KazeWolfen Misinformation is false, inaccurate, or misleading information.[1][2] Examples of misinformation are false rumors, gossip, and misleading use of facts. Disinformation is a subset of misinformation that is deliberately deceptive.[3][4][5] News parody or satire can become misinformation if they are believed to be credible or communicated as if they are true. Misinformation and disinformation have often been associated with the concept of fake news, which some scholars define as "fabricated information that mimics news media content in form but not in organizational process or intent."[2] Either way, disinformation or misinformation is unacceptable at the professional media outlet level... as they have the resources to check and triple check their facts on a regular. Which is why they should be held accountable for the garbage they spew on a regular basis these days... Whether they intentionally deceive or just lazily publish/say something completely inaccurate. 🤔

@bombomos

2 жыл бұрын

@@KazeWolfen But what if a government group is providing misinformation to the news networks? Would that still not be misinformation

@slinkychungus2044

2 жыл бұрын

@@11Ash11 That guys argument was so shit, typical though. They try to play the semantics game, but it just shows that they can’t seem to understand 2 terms that can basically be interchanged in a situation like this.

@slinkychungus2044

2 жыл бұрын

@@KazeWolfen Keep playing semantics, you will get far with it! Well, until someone can find the definition and recite them verbatim and dismantle your argument with common sense.

@GuyUWishUWere

2 жыл бұрын

Or "peacefully protested"

The justice system, though flawed in many ways, has energized my hope in due process. This man deserves his verdict, just as much as Kyle deserved his. Both of these cases have similarities... The major difference is that the "victim" happened to be the man being chased down. which in itself flops the roles for all the parties involved. So, I am with you Gents on this one.

@Floridamangaming729

2 жыл бұрын

I mean Kyle wouldnt be alive if he didnt shoot back. And that would've been the absolute worse outcome. The left have shown that they arent afraid to mock minors who have been murdered by the mob. remember when that one lunatic went into someone's lawn and just shot a toddler? the kid was white and the killer was a black BLM activist. These people are nothing but pure evil.

@Amb252

2 жыл бұрын

@@Floridamangaming729 Kyle started that shitv

@chongert6396

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amb252 🧢 how??

@LethalByChoice

Жыл бұрын

@@Amb252 No he didn't. Only people who didn't pay much attention to the case think that.

@NativeTanSkin

Жыл бұрын

Ok bih, stay mad

I love you guys even more for not selling out into the whole "Kyle is a criminal" thing. Well done as you used your eyes and logic to see the clear difference.

@khanm.a

2 жыл бұрын

But he is, he possessed a gun before the legal age and not only that he used his friend to purchase the gun for him.

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@khanm.a Kyle was a minor in possession of a firearm, and that charge was thrown out. Should he have had a gun or been there? No. Does that take away his right to self defense or remove legitimacy from his situation? No.

@khanm.a

2 жыл бұрын

@@tobiasreaper3650 Exactly, the possession of a firearm was a crime

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@khanm.a it is, but as I said, that charge was thrown out. I believe that the OP meant to say "Kyle was malicious" or "had malicious intent".

@OddOtter707

2 жыл бұрын

@@tobiasreaper3650 Just because it was thrown out by a judge that favored him, does that mean it didnt happen? You're telling me, the friend who bought the gun for him is in court, but the KID who used the gun and killed people 'protecting' empty car lots can go away scott free? Ain't that the US in a nutshell!

God seeing people who actually have logic with this kind of stuff is weirdly rare and I am so so glad to see it! Great work guys!

@chuckdeuces911

2 жыл бұрын

If you think this is logic then everywhere has this exact same logic so your logic is flawed.. this is the common take on it

@ice-qf8vz

2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckdeuces911 I'm not even 100% sure I know what you are trying to say but what I am saying is news outlets don't project this sort of logical perspective. So seeing this is relieving and clearly other people know what I am talking about lol

@Chris-rp8cj

2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckdeuces911 So if someone has the "common take" on a situation then that means their logic is flawed? I think that means your logic is flawed if you believe that.

@billymays8864

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-rp8cj Im very confident he is saying that the common take on these types topics are often unlogical and cause of that hes glad aba & preach are taking the logical route. Idk how you get "the common take is always flawed" from that.

@johngillon6969

2 жыл бұрын

One time i had impugned the integrity of a man i was selling an automobile to. Micky you can't take the car till my bank said it's good. He replied strongly. But I am a good Christian. I replied. "Mickey that's what they all say."

Jeeze I can't believe how misinformed I've been about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial... Crazy how deceiving the story being put forward has been.

@nicolipotatski6288

2 жыл бұрын

It's your news sources. You need better sources. They intentionally lied it doesn't take much time seeing the evidence to know Kyle was 100% in the right. He had no other choice. He was trying to get away each time. I'm glad you see it though. I use to watch them as well until I started seeing them lying.

@homiefizzle5260

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolipotatski6288 totally agree but the thing is, that like majority of people I take in the news that is presented to me by whatever algorithm I'm at the mercy of that day. We don't all have the time or willingness to search for the "truth" on every story, and even then it's so difficult to discern which truth is really the truth these days. Modern media is messed up.

@bonononchev634

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that betrayal by the media won't be soon forgiven. Months of literally lying.

@KOHoxton

2 жыл бұрын

@@homiefizzle5260 that's why I personally keep my opinion to myself until I've learned from a very credible source. Mine is usually richard lewis, but. I know that's just me lol.

@bonagrad92

2 жыл бұрын

@@homiefizzle5260 You may want to check out Tim Pool or Dave Rubin. Both consider themselves classic liberals and both have had, for the lack of a better word, an awakening when it comes to the narrative coming out of liberal media. Now, knowing how media sources like CNN and MSNBC have outright lied about Kyle Rittenhouse (and MSNBC is doubling down on their fake news), imagine how many of their news stories about Trump were actually false. If you don't have time to check out Tim Pool and Dave Rubin, try flipping between CNN or MSNBC and FOX News. Of course, you were probably told that FOX News was fake news, but in my experience, they've always been more accurate than the others. They just use more conservative language. Anyway, between the both, you'll get a better idea of where the truth lies. Hope this helps you. ✌

As a "Canadian" I agree fully about our lack of self defence laws.

@OddOtter707

2 жыл бұрын

Here in the US, all you need to do is shoot someone and run away. Thats technically 'Self Defence' these days!

@badazzmaro

2 жыл бұрын

@@OddOtter707 um what are you talking about

@srvsutaresuta5137

2 жыл бұрын

@@OddOtter707 that's a supreme oversimplification of the situation. Watch Legal Eagle's video about the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict.

Y’all are the realest ever. Not left not right just simply moral and I love it. Respect ✊🏽 Kings

“This is the streets, okay? I don’t know what you have in your pocket!” This is why my parents have always taught us to treat people with kindness as my dad has been saying something similar to my sister and I for YEARS. You can’t just walk up to anybody with the intent to fight with bare hands and act like the victim when they pull out something to defend themselves as they see fit. It’s call self-defense for a reason.

@chiliconcarne4274

2 жыл бұрын

Yep 👍

@123je12

2 жыл бұрын

When coloured people think for themselves and they don't let Joy Reid and bunch of white liberals do it for them 😎☝🏼

@creeperFIN123

2 жыл бұрын

Well yeah meanwhile here in finland if they have a knife and you shoot or stab etc. them before they stab or seriously hurt you, you go to jail. Still carry a knife myself cos better in jail than dead i guess... Of course i must say that it does prevent exaggeration of self defence and the one dead is usually 99% the victim so no need for morally complicated and expencive trials.

@hcook1023

2 жыл бұрын

@TJP 81 no shit I'm a white man but if I saw a guy walking around with an AR-15 regardless of the time I'd quickly walk around a corner

@123je12

2 жыл бұрын

@da midwif non-white people technically.

Exactly! This is NOT how we do things. They are guilty!

I remember using this particular case in one of my classes for a school report, going for my Bachelor's of Criminal Justice. I was having to go over this case last year, damn, glad to finally see it all come full circle. This dude is a prime example of how you can do something supremely stupid, that will ruin your life permanently.

@hcook1023

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously I'm of the opinion that he truly was innocent but was just a stupid kid that made a series of bad decisions.

@Myemnhk

2 жыл бұрын

@@hcook1023 think he meant that shooter

@bostearns7083

2 жыл бұрын

@Hunter Cook I was talking about the shooter.

@hcook1023

2 жыл бұрын

That's who I meant too. If they did have that video or the other guy shot first this story could have turned out very differently

@mercury_icarus

2 жыл бұрын

@@hcook1023 but he didn’t shoot at them 😂.

I think in general when one party is trying to get away, and the other party is trying to maintain contact, the one trying to maintain contact tends to be the aggressor because they can always just stop chasing and it is over. I think both trials went the way I thought they should, mostly for that reason (among others). the guy with the camera also took part in trying to corner him, so... felony murder. I thought he had the best chance of avoiding a murder charge, but any felony he was charged with was going to lead to him getting a felony murder count. also, the cops were not told to stand down, they were en route, so that was also not in their favor.

between this and Kyle I actually feeling kinda hopeful for our justice system for once

@_Smile_Today

2 жыл бұрын

Why? the DA/Prosecutors in that trial did so much that violated kyles right from lying, presenting fabricated evidence, tried to violate his 5th amendment right (right to remain silent and not incriminate yourself) and its no consequences for them and their actions. So if that’s Hopeful for you okay

@Lemme-sniff-ya

2 жыл бұрын

well let me fix that real quick, no prosecutor was going to prosecute these guys. Took a radio host making this case viral.

@kickurass67

2 жыл бұрын

There are probably 100s of cases like this. Majority of people don’t follow it unless It’s in the MSM. Thus creates this narrative that the courts are intentionally against black people. Both cases were correct. As expected.

@djgroopz4952

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@MaouHoi

2 жыл бұрын

@@kickurass67 This is going to make waves, I am hopeful crazies are going to think twice before doing this. Even if its doesn't completely eliminate the issue but it will decrease it. Life is about progress, we cant solve everything 100%. We just try to make the world better everyday.

Honestly kind of off topic but since you brought up the Breonna Taylor case, I think no knock warrants are INSANELY dangerous how is someone supposed to know whos breaking into their home especially if the cops get the wrong house and totally innocent person is caught thinking they're in the middle of a home invasion and then they get lit up by what turns out to be the cops. That's just too dangerous everyone is human and is prone to making mistakes.

@yashar4046

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of what you just stated is factually wrong.

@ivanamicimici

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the problem was that the detectives misused that law.. I think no knock warrants should exist but not be used without clear evidence of massive crimes happening at an address. Believe me,many times my head was saved because the cops were knocking and I had the time to throw away my stash. But breona wasn't committing any crimes,and they for some strange reason targeted her and in the end murdered her for no reason in cold blood.

@majorchungus

2 жыл бұрын

From what I understand is that they had a no knock warrant but still announced themselves. Could be wrong but that's the story I heard.

@lolnoob5015

2 жыл бұрын

@@majorchungus that's correct, they knocked and announced themselves even tho they didn't have to. They got no response, so they broke in, The boyfriend shot at the police on response, the police returned fire, and killed Breanna on accident

@joshdh46

2 жыл бұрын

Breonna wasn't a no knock, they knocked and announced themselves. Her boyfriend didn't hear the announcement and fired first.

Brothers! Your episodes lately don't miss!!!....2022 is gunna be big for youse

You guys are some of the most intellectual consistent people I know. Thank you! Nowadays it means a lot!

Damn you guys nailed it with both cases. This story didn’t make it to Australia like the Kyle case so just hearing about it now. You can see it in his eyes as he hears guilty…..he knows he was wrong on some level & his peers, the jury let him know that he murdered an innocent young man for F all. Can’t imagine that boy’s fear as he was chased down.

@Youboremenow

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to guess most of the coverage of the Kyle case was from sky news?

@Notinuse6685

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that this case was the reason for the protests not just George floyd which that Kyle asshole decided to turn up to kill people

@hcook1023

2 жыл бұрын

@@Notinuse6685 I'm not a guy who thinks he's a hero, I think he's a stupid kid that made bad decisions that got him in trouble. However trust me, an experienced hunter or marksman that wanted to kill people in a riot either wouldn't get caught or have no way of stating self defense, they would be picking them off in cover, through a window, or on a roof and the riot and surroundings would confuse the origin so it would either be so premeditative there wouldn't be a doubt or he'd just get away with it. Like that Sherlock Holmes movie about looking for a bullet wound at a explosion. Also if he showed up to kill black people why were white people the only ones shot.

@AgentDoubleV_Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@hcook1023 bro dont bother, these people believe what they want to believe. they wont allow reason or evidence to the contrary to change their mind.

@saviourself687

2 жыл бұрын

Umm, you obviously didn't watch the whole case, the prosecution stipulated that Arbery had performed criminal trespass (misdemenour, important when considering the charge of felony murder) and it was likely that he was one of, if not the, burglar. Arbery was not an innocent person. It just wasn't material to the case. Neither was the fact that Arbery tried to take the gun from the McMichael's, an act of self defense in that situation and therefore not a provocation for a lethal response. The dumbfucks grabbing a shotgun and chasing a guy down was illegal and they deserve everything that's coming to em. I think the murder ruling against the guy who filmed it was the jury overreaching and may be the most likely to be overturned or reduced on appeal, but that's neither here nor there. Ultimately, the jury came to the correct decision that the McMichael's had acted without justification and had indeed committed murder. For noting, if the police had done what the McMichael's had done, it likely wouldn't have been charged because the police have a lower standard of probable cause (eg. they already had a description for Arbery as a person of interest), and if he had run, then attempted to grab their weapon, they would have been ruled justified in shooting him. This is why you never try to arrest someone as a private citizen if you can avoid it. You're not a state actor and the burden is so much higher on you in case something goes worng. Incidentally, if you want to contrast masterful persecution (vs that clown Binger in the Rittenhouse trial), catch up on Nate the Lawyer's recorded streams from the court, she did a great job. And if you object to my descriptions of Arbery, I'm just relating the facts of the case. While he certainly didn't deserve to die, he was actively engaged in playing stupid games, and won a stupid prize.

The fact a comedy channel has better information than "news" channels is frightening, that being said I wish I could subscribe to your channel more than once. Keep up the good job guys!

@bilaldogar5417

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't really call this a comedy channel. This is a channel for social commentary; these guys just happen to be really funny.

@manuelcaetano4734

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilaldogar5417 fair point

@k96man

2 жыл бұрын

Life is a joke if you think about it

@hcook1023

2 жыл бұрын

On all fairness I used to find the Daily Show and Colbert Report on Comedy Central better than most news networks, not the case anymore and Colbert changed (and got less funny)

The editing during the guilty verdict reading was fantastic 👏

Totally fair and reasonable, just like the Rittenhouse case. It's clearly obvious that the only one that could claim self defense was Ahmad. Yet he, wrongly, ended up losing his life. Horrible event.

@unknowntitan5884

2 жыл бұрын

Approaching the people with a gun and grabbing it is not self defense... That's adding more danger to the situation. There wasnt a reason for him to walk back to the truck and grab the gun, just as the 3 dudes shouldn't have approached and followed him

@jamesmccloud1002

2 жыл бұрын

@@unknowntitan5884 "Approaching people with a gun and grabbing it is not self defense" Ah yes. If you come home to a guy raping your wife, you better not approach and let him finish. Otherwise you can't claim self defense.

I wanted Kyle convicted until I started paying attention, then I was like WTF? This kid was just defending himself. As for the three just convicted; they can rot in hell.

@aservantinbabylon

2 жыл бұрын

You should have done the same due diligence with this case as well so you would know that these men did nothing wrong.

@JT-Discussions

2 жыл бұрын

So you think it’s okay to corner and draw your gun on someone who did nothing wrong?

@DeezN1892

2 жыл бұрын

@@aservantinbabylon nothing wrong? Wtf? Chasing some random guy down in trucks and pulling a gun out on him because he’s a spooky black guy counts as ‘nothing wrong’ to you? America has a HARDCORE white supremacy problem fr

@facE055

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeezN1892 he wasnt some random guy lol, jesus christ watch the fucking trial. he was a guy caught on camera in houses multiple times, had the cops called on him multiple times, who the cops had asked for help catching, and who cops had even recruited men from the neighborhood to arm themselves and help look for at one point.

@trippmoore

2 жыл бұрын

Now if we could get all the people so eager to accept "vaccine" mandates to look into this issue without bias and an open mind we might start getting somewhere.

My brother still won't actually watch the Rittenhouse trial and thinks these two cases are the exact same.

@MissMalevolent

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn't. That's why he won't watch the truth and admit he's wrong.

@yelsahblah3270

2 жыл бұрын

Willful ignorance is the worst kind.

@rohanjarande

2 жыл бұрын

Show him this video.

@user-jt6rh8xy6n

2 жыл бұрын

Political media is geared towards the ignorant and Individuals that are two lazy to think for themselves. It’s condensed and presented in a way in which highlights certain details thus leading you to the certain conclusions.Blth sides of “media” do this which is why there is now a sense of tribalism in today’s political climate I.e if you don’t support trump your a Commie, and if you don’t support abortion your a n^*zi. I won’t ask you to Encourage him to watch it and see for himself as some people are blissfully ignorant. For a reference take a look at the internet. Some people grow out of it and some don’t.

@anonymousdonor

2 жыл бұрын

My parents are still trying to say that the judge was biased

The original Ahmaud Arbery video you guys did not too long ago was the first video I watched from you. Happy to see this case come full circle, sad a man had to die in order for me to find you guys. keep up the good work.

Frankly at this point, weather or not he was trying or intended to steal from that construction site is irrelevant. They had no authority to chase him down, corner him, and then shoot him. They are not law enforcement responding to a call, they are vigilantes who went way above and beyond the limits of a citizens arrest.

It's great to see people like you guys who will critically examine the facts of individual cases instead of knee-jerk reactions. Keep it up.

@woobiefuntime

2 жыл бұрын

they both cases of vigilantism. One got clouded by riots.

@donovanwilliams5424

2 жыл бұрын

@@woobiefuntime, defense isn't vigilantism. That's the critical difference between the two cases.

@shabazz360

2 жыл бұрын

@@woobiefuntime oh boy 🤦🏽‍♂️ you sure this the hill you wanna die on ?

@woobiefuntime

2 жыл бұрын

@@shabazz360 i look it as a case of a guy looking for people who were causing trouble. He talked about wanting to shoot a shoplifter.

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@woobiefuntime I'm not going to defend Kyle's statements that he made. What I am going to say, is that I can't disprove the legitimacy of the situation. We have Kyle getting chased, both threatened and physically attacked, all on video. I disagree with him being there the way he was, but that doesn't give others the right to chase and attack him, nor does it take away his right to defend himself from people attacking him.

He's gonna hear that celebration in his sleep 😂😭

@nathangreen4618

2 жыл бұрын

Im sure he wont be sleeping that much🙃

@shashaduke8700

2 жыл бұрын

😈😈😈😈😈 yes yes he will...... When he can sleep😈😈😈😈

@MelE33

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@MsJoyce31202

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@cashmoney6935

2 жыл бұрын

He'll get plenty of sleep after Tiny gets done packing his asshole like an amazon order

I'm glad you guys are some out of the few people that actually have logic when it comes to these recent events.

I'm so greatful to yall two for being so well informed. It's rare to get a hot take from y'all. Keep up the great work.

Being a mature adult is realizing that Kyle was innocent and Ahmad arbery was murdered. Both received justice and that’s a good thing

@zachtemoro2116

2 жыл бұрын

100% could not agree more. Clear difference is that Kyle was pursued while McMicheals were the pursuers

@robertparker6280

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo

@mikemontgomery2654

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that.

@mista4700

2 жыл бұрын

Kyle was innocent of murder. He wasn't innocent for having someone buy him a gun that he knew he wasn't supposed to have yet .but the judge dropped that charge.

@Ant-jr8ty

2 жыл бұрын

@@mista4700 he could possess with weapon, he could not buy it. the only real diff there, and it could be argued that it wasn't a straw purchase since while it was for Kyle, Kyle didn't have access to it anytime he wanted.

Yeah, you can't claim self defense when 3 of you are armed, and chasing someone down in a truck, and then shoot the person you hunted. It was a good week for justice.

@shashaduke8700

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly they hunted that man

@AntiAnathema

2 жыл бұрын

No, it was a citizen's arrest. They performed it very poorly. but They didn't brandish it or threaten him. We don't give monopoly of apprehension to police that fail to do their job. It was self defense when the man rushed at one of them specifically and grabbed the gun. That's dual possession. They defended against a violent threat who was already a criminal suspect, that had posession of a firearm. Manslaughter at worst.

@werwerqweqwe

2 жыл бұрын

@@AntiAnathema By that logic he was defending himself from an even bigger violent threat when he attempted to grab the weapon. Moronic take.

@jayman3873

2 жыл бұрын

@@AntiAnathema So he has no right to fight for his life when 3 racists scumbags attempt to kill him(for absolutely no reason, he didn't rob nobody or anything.He was just jogging, and they chased him down), and just allow some people to have their way with him? You white supremacists are some sick, twisted people.

@Mike-ul1xn

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayman3873 Even if you believe he wasn't jogging and he was casing the place, they still murdered him.

Great analysis on both cases.

I am so grateful you make videos like these. I really appreciate the honesty and thought fullness.

You guys have this 100% correct. People don’t know the facts in the Rittenhouse case. This was vigilantism and they are paying the price.

@georgianash6635

2 жыл бұрын

It’s more than that surely, vigilantism doesnt quite describe how heinous and disrespectful they were of human life .He could’ve been any darker skinned son or husband walking down that street.If he had been arrested then yes it would be a legal matter and they could’ve been sued how they chose to hunt him down 3 to one armed and in a car ready to run him over.Such disregard for that poor beautiful boy

@selverm7757

2 жыл бұрын

facts are not needed, one video of 1min is all you need, someone running me down and try to take my gun.. bye bye.. its all that is needed, 60sec video is as clear as the fing sky :D

@facE055

2 жыл бұрын

did you watch the trial? it seems you dont know the facts in this case either. they were asked to help look for this guy by the cops, he was known to have been committing crimes in the neighborhood. he had been caught on camera multiple times and had the cops called on him multiple times. they didnt have the wrong guy, he was the right guy. he was shot when he went for the gun, nobody in the courtroom questioned that the shooting itself was self defense. the only problem was the way the judge read the law you have to see a felony happen in order to chase someone for a citizens arrest. he had committed felonies, they knew he had committed felonies, they just didnt see it happen that day so following him became false imprisonment, which is a felony. when you commit a felony against someone you lose the right to self defense. so basically they were asked to help catch him, they had the right guy, they attempted to follow him until cops came and are now going to prison for a long time when he attacked them. personally i think it was stupid the son got out of the truck and put himself close enough to aubery to make a move for the shotgun, but if they thought he was turning on them to use a gun (they were warned he was likely to be armed by police and they had had a gun stolen from their truck earlier too) he mightve just wanted to get a clear shot on him if he pulled a gun. in the end i think the conviction (for felony murder at least) is probably correct, but its not some victory of the law. they were asked to help catch this guy who had been threatening their neighborhood, they tried to help catch him and only shot when necessary in self defense, and now theyre going to prison a very long time because of it. if this was three black men who had followed a known white criminal the same people celebrating it would be protesting and saying how racist the justice system is. and i'd agree with them that it's a fucked up situation then too.

@facE055

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgianash6635 he was literally the person cops had asked them to look for, who had been committing crimes in their neighborhood for months. just because someone is black doesnt make them a "poor beautiful boy" when they die directly due to the felonies theyve been committing. if he hadnt been caught committing felonies many times in that neighborhood he wouldnt have been followed. his actions directly led to this. do you people actually think blacks dont have potential to be anything more than criminals? he couldnt have been "any darker skinned son or husband" because most darker skinned sons and husbands dont commit felonies and have the cops looking for them for months. do you actually think all black people do that? do you not realize there are millions of black people that follow the law and never have the cops after them?

@jibril2473

2 жыл бұрын

@@facE055 bro why are you making this so complicated? If they seen him loitering or trespassing on private property, CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT!

Best analysis yet!

@joshennn

2 жыл бұрын

Ruslaannn 🙏🏿

@drewphonix7685

2 жыл бұрын

RrrrrrrrRuslaaan

@johndia5

2 жыл бұрын

From the best channel on KZread 👀

@danieldorvil7683

2 жыл бұрын

Ruslan you here

@harrythej9683

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta disagree. Ahmaud wasn't clearly innocent, even if the Mcmichaels messed up. Aba also left out that Arbery attacked, even if it doesn't change anything. Sus

It's scary to think some shit like this can happen at any time to anyone. One second you're on a walk the next you're surrounded by 3 dudes with guns. At the very least I'm glad his killers were brought to justice in the end.

@tiktokexposed898

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

man im so happy i found this channel, u guys are hilarious with great insights, loving the vids, officially hooked now!

We need to understand that self defense is something EVERYONE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT. if Kyle had been convicted. It would have set the wrong precedence for future case law

@BM-hb2mr

2 жыл бұрын

It did in the past, do making statues of a drug addict or a boi that shoots a retired policeman for riots?

@derpherp2360

2 жыл бұрын

disagree, the spirit of the law for self defense was manipulated through short sighted adherence of the letter of the law. youll see this when ya see more people looking for conflict and cry self defense when they finding out.

@zenraloc

2 жыл бұрын

Incorrect

@sgtsage2

2 жыл бұрын

@@derpherp2360 Sticks and stones. Grow up and use your words loser.

@derpherp2360

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgtsage2 lol what was that about about sticks n stone supreme "niceguy", dont go being an active shooter now "chad".

So happy to hear you guys say the jury was correct in BOTH cases.

@TheKatarinaGiselle

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@jaffamaalin

2 жыл бұрын

facts are facts, why wouldn't they?

@waterlove689

2 жыл бұрын

i mean it’s clear as day obvious & aba and preach have common sense.

@VelCroweBar

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaffamaalin Cuz a lot of people are in their feels and don't use logic nowadays.

@kazejay7229

2 жыл бұрын

@@VelCroweBar only reason I’m upset is cuz The kid shouldn’t have been out there I get it yknow but that’s kinda dangerous for a kid yknow where is bros parents man bruh

Always on point 👌🏻

That "time to kill reference" man!!! *tear drops*

This Thanksgiving, I am thankful for critical thinking skills and rationality. Thx A&P for letting the facts drive you instead of a preconception.

@ruslad1991

2 жыл бұрын

weird how he avoided mention how arbery went for a guys shotgun

@morandalec3869

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruslad1991 weird how youre allowed to do that in self defense First option is RUN He did They chased with vehicles and cornered him Then they presented a weapon and aimed it at him Hes WELL WITHIN HIS SELF DEFENSE RIGHTS to try and stop the weapon or take the weapon from the attacker How daft are you? If hed had grabbed the shotgun AND shot them, hed still be fine bro You have zero idea how law works Get off the video games and go be productive

@lastraven580

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruslad1991 Weird how you think that even matters 🤔

@ruslad1991

2 жыл бұрын

@@lastraven580 trust me it does because they are painting them like they intended to kill and it was not self defence

@lastraven580

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruslad1991 Well he's dead isn't he? Doesn't matter what they intended to do. He was U.N.A.R.M.E.D. Maybe if they weren't fat and unfit they couldve apprehended him and asked questions. These people playing super hero didn't work out well for them

Both juries did exactly what they should’ve and upheld their end of the job

The lead prosecutor (Linda Dunikoski) did a great job. Check out the video of her cross examination of Travis McMichael. Also check out her closing argument videos before the Defense gave their closing arguments. Then check out her rebuttal closing argument video after the defense finished. She made everything very easy and very clear for the jury.

You guys are on point about the two cases. 👌🏻

What happened to Ahmaud is what would've happened if Kyle was unarmed. RIP Ahmaud, justice was served for him but sadly he is no longer here to see it, may his family find peace and closure with the verdict.

@princerose233

2 жыл бұрын

No it isn't served until the da heads that tried to cover this up are convicted.

@divacheeks3676

2 жыл бұрын

Kyle would not have been murdered if he was unarmed... how did you come to that conclusion?

@Searyu

2 жыл бұрын

@@divacheeks3676 So if me and two of my buddies chase you down and we have blunt objects and a gun, aiming the gun at you, you'd think we were just gonna try and stop you to chat for a bit or what?

@IffyEdem

2 жыл бұрын

@@divacheeks3676 he had the RIGHT to carry a gun. Why the hell can you not understand that

@goodguy...badrep.

2 жыл бұрын

That's quite a reach.

100% of the people who didn’t attack Rittenhouse were completely unharmed.

@lordhawkeye

2 жыл бұрын

I am not a man of faith but the trigger control and nerves of that, at the time, 17 yr old was a miracle. Someone was making sure innocent people didn't die that night while playground stalkers and serial stranglers are left cooling on the pavement.

@KaiserReb

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordhawkeye yeah his trigger control in that situation was strict.

@thelordoftime803

2 жыл бұрын

He had discipline, control, focus. That was textbook.

@jlee4562

2 жыл бұрын

Yea 100% even after a double head injury, I'd be as "they" say call of dutyin that shit 😂

@petergeramin7195

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordhawkeye Ok, I don't think the people he shot were pedos or serial killers. Just emotional and stupid for jumping to conclusions. You're exaggerating a bit much. Anything to say about Amhad's case though?

Very clearly different cases. Thank you for acknowledging that. In the course of three weeks, if people truly watched both trials we saw the difference between self defense and stone cold murder.

What I legit hated from this was the amount of "woke" mooks telling my black ass I had no right to defend myself. It pissed me off to no end because these were the same anti-cop, anti-gun, anti-government types telling me. I had no right to defend myself because of THE LAWS.

I always think of the George Zimmerman case, follow someone when explicitly told not to by the police > confront them > cause unlawful confinement by preventing them from leaving > get into a physical fight > shoot said person > claim self defense. ZImmerman should have been held to account like these guys.

@The_Washingtons_2022

2 жыл бұрын

You should read more about that trial nobody ever told him to not follow someone, it was right for Zimmerman to get off. Sorry not sorry 🤷🏾‍♀️

@MsJoyce31202

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@Naijarianman

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%

@EriPages

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting points...is that all that happened? I think I read Zimmerman was following him until Trayvon fed up with being followed attacked him and bodied him easily (Trayvon was nearly 6ft tall & 170lbs)...then proceeded to smash Zimmerman's head into the concrete ground, forcing Zimmerman to shoot while he still could Hm...but even with this said, I do remember the police telling Zimmerman not to follow in the first place...so I guess the case hinges on did Zimmerman continue following Trayvon or did Trayvon already get agitated enough by that point and attacked him? What's the argument the pro-Zimmerman people have for the innocence judgement?

@mgancarzjr

2 жыл бұрын

Let's say you start a fist fight with someone. In the middle of the fight, they pull a knife or gun. Your rights to using lethal force to defend your life and your person from grievous bodily harm don't go away, in many jurisdictions, because you started the fight.

The misinformation spread by the media was so intense in the Rittenhouse case that even on the day Rittenhouse was acquitted a news organization printed an article with the headline "Rittenhouse Acquitted in Murder Of Two Black Men". As for the Arbery case I didn't hear much about it after it initially happened. In fact I had nearly forgotten about it. I guess the Arbery case wasn't a particularly good political football.

@jth_printed_designs

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't a "good political football" because everyone left, right, and center knew from the beginning that the men who chased him down were in the wrong. The media is only interested in stories if they can sew division between people. With Rittenhouse they could lie about it and pit the two sides against each other.

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@jth_printed_designs the media only likes to go fishing in the murkiest of water

@thunderouswanderer7753

2 жыл бұрын

Which will forever be insane to me because everyone involved in the Rittenhouse case was W H I T E

@zinho934

2 жыл бұрын

A whíte guy kílls two other whíte guys, gets off innocent and conservatives rejoice. But two whíte guys kill a blàck Amont Arbury, and they get sentenced to prision. ggs folks. Justice is served

@gamemediafan1714

Жыл бұрын

@@zinho934 The "white guy" you named in the former shot in self-defense and all the evidence proves that.

Love you guys. Thanks for reporting by using facts! That's kinda important

This makes me so happy what hurts my heart is to think about all the other young black men throughout history in the United States have just been minding their business, who's murders have not been solved. My grandparents used to tell me stories about people disappearing from black colonies throughout the South only to find their bodies later hung from trees I am so happy this man's life is destroyed. I I hope this continues to happen, I shouldn't have to worry about any children I have "fitting the description," just because they so happen to be in the area. You have a chance actually watch the videos of when the cops arrived nobody tried to help Ahmad he laid gasping in the street like a dead animal and the police officers walked around his body and comforted the murderers. Finally a system showing some semblance of correctness in these situations.

@chroniclejim5073

2 жыл бұрын

Calm down sweetheart

@JSmoothGamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@chroniclejim5073 don't tell us to calm down.

@camalex7782

2 жыл бұрын

@@chroniclejim5073 shut up Jim who shit in your coffee because your extra edgier than a teenager on adderal

@brohanfromrohan5771

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus christ. The fact that you think this country is anything like it used to be back in your "grandparents day". Of course racism was rampant then. To claim it still is to this extent is ridiculous.

As someone who has lived in Georgia all my life, I remember the story my grandfather told me how he came across a lynch mob and fled also learning my great grandmother's brother was lynch for simply asking for a pay raise. When this murder first happened I just knew nothing would happen to those men and they almost got away with it. I just felt so overwhelmed when that verdict was read now its time to go after the DA and prosecutors who tried to cover this up.

@nicolipotatski6288

2 жыл бұрын

No they were screwed. They cant do crap like that. As long as the jury is fair they will get convicted. Which they did they never almost got away. There is convicted or vindicated that's it.

@Eagle-cy4qj

2 жыл бұрын

Thankfully they're going to face consequences for their behavior. I agree, any individuals in positions of power who tried to obstruct or run cover need to be held accountable for their actions.

@MissEasyPeasySleasy

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolipotatski6288 if their idiot lawyer friend didn’t put out the video seeking sympathy for them, they WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT! Because no one knew it happened until the footage came out

@nicolipotatski6288

2 жыл бұрын

@@MissEasyPeasySleasy still justice was served, I am glad.

@yuancree8019

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolipotatski6288 as am I my friend. I just wish that the mistakes made by the system would be corrected

You guys are a couple of my heroes. Honesty and integrity matter a great deal. Thank you.

Y’all’s faces got me rollin!! 😂😂😂🤣

Someone who has never seen a video of someone's skull getting split open from a truck slap: "It's just a skate board"

Its great to see that libs, conservatives, and moderates mostly agree that this is the right verdict.

@kermmy3228

2 жыл бұрын

True

@camalex7782

2 жыл бұрын

Well unfortunately there are alot of racists out there who say hE wAs WeArzInG CARGO PANTS how could he jog ?! And claim he stole something even though he had nothing but a phone in his pockets and say it was okay to shoot because he was trespassing even though walking on your neighbors lawn is trespassing and there are videos of people walking into constriction sites (from the last video) and doing no harm but I guess they're unreasonable

@yayger825

2 жыл бұрын

Libertarian and I agree

@kermmy3228

2 жыл бұрын

@@yayger825 I'm a conservative and I too agree with you .

@BamBamGT1

2 жыл бұрын

Neutral, and I can't comprehend why people think this is a right verdict. Malice murder? That's a charge that doesn't add up to the facts of this case at all. This was negligent homocide at best. The police themselves had involved Greg Mcmichael when he was sent footage of Arbery walking around on that construction site on prior occasions. When arbery did it again that day and they saw him running away, they decided to chase him, they contacted the police, Greg was actually on the phone with police when the shooting happened. And what happened there. As they were awaiting Arbery, he ran to the right side of the truck, when he got to the front, he changed direction, and charged Travis and attacked him, with lead to Travis shooting him. so, euhm, where's the malice part in this case? The Mcmichaels created the dangerous situation, but as Arbery attacked Travis, at that moment, Travis was just defending himself against his attacker. That's got negligent homocide written all over it, but Malice murder??? This is the most absurd verdict I've heard this century.

Thank you! Idk how people defend the actions of these three guys

@KennyBucketz

2 жыл бұрын

I already know I’m gonna get hate under this comment. A whole bunch of people going hard to defend these killers

@emtrac7898

2 жыл бұрын

@@KennyBucketz Im just gonna say, what happened? I have no idea about any of this

@ayinstrumentals7731

2 жыл бұрын

They've slowed down on the mainstream outlets, but I'm sure they're still there. Apparently they're trying to say that these fools killed Arbery in self defense since he grabbed the gun and was stealing from the property (because he was black)

@emtrac7898

2 жыл бұрын

@@KennyBucketz nevermind i remembered what this was

@EriPages

2 жыл бұрын

Big Media needs to be held accountable for all their lies about Kyle Rittenhouse AND Ahmed Arbery

Great point! The media should most definitely be held wayyyyy more accountable for false information and news. Yes they should be sued, maybe then just maybe we as a people can get better news and information from them when they are held responsible for inherently causing or swaying things to seem one way when its actually another. Shame on us for allowing this and mostly them for choosing to be such an bad influence knowing how most people will react.

I'm so relieved both these cases ended the way they did.

Absolutely, both verdicts correct

Fun fact: even if they did watch this dude (Aubrey) trespass on the and take something, they still wouldn't have a defense. According to Georgia law, it has to be a felony. And petty theft and trespassing are both misdemeanors. Once again, another video of amazing content.

@jeanniemaycrawford4466

2 жыл бұрын

No, if they witnessed it, its most definitely a citizen's arrest and from Aubrey's past history, it'd definitely be in talks to bump it up to a felony.

@phantomzxro1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 seems like alot of what if. His past would not magically bump it up to a felony in the context of the mcmichael chasing him.

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 I think the person starting the citizens' arrest has to also be a witness to the offense, and the offense has to have a felony charge available by itself under Georgia law. Edit: the person making the arrest has to be in the presence of or have immediate knowledge of the crime when it is being committed. You are only allowed to pursue someone if you probable cause that they are fleeing after having committed a felony.

@TishaPisha

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 incorrect... just loud and wrong! Smh

@SillyRamen

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 Except they didn’t witness anything besides him trespassing. And trespassing isn’t serious enough to do a citizen’s arrest. Especially to chase him with guns drawn and trying to run him down in their vehicles.

1:46 That was unexpected, my sides are still recovering from...

"The first 'Woo' is unintentional" -Erich Preach

Take a moment to realize this jury was comprised of 11 white people and 1 black person. And despite the defense attorney's efforts to dismiss (without cause) any black potential jurors, justice still prevailed. So there is still hope for this country. Don't give up the fight.

@iykeharrison9161

2 жыл бұрын

What fight?

@barcaman1013

2 жыл бұрын

No hope

@arichalevas2298

2 жыл бұрын

In this case they were scared of rioting, looting and terrorism. I don't care the race this was self defense. And if it was a Black guy instead of a White guy it would be self defense and everyone agree. From what I seen is he ran at him and attacked him beating him trying to take his gun at that point it IS self defense. If roles were reversed and Arbrey was the one following McMichaels it would be self defense and all you all would agree and all the people that riot, loot and do threats would agree too if Arbrey followed him and was attacked and beat on then tried to take gun. They just made this case about race. No matter the race, person or character it was self defense to me

@melb4161

2 жыл бұрын

@@arichalevas2298 How was it self-defense, when they were pursuing him? Three of them, one of him. They were armed, he was not.

@CrzyLion

2 жыл бұрын

@@arichalevas2298 theres literally not a single country in the world where you can pursue somebody and then claim self defense...stop smoking meth

Kyle: tried to get away. was chased, Was assaulted, threatened, opened fire when his life was threatened. Self defence. Aubrey: tried to get away, was chased, was assaulted, tried to grab the gun of the guy who was assaulting him, was shot. How the hell can THEY claim self defence when they were the ones instigating the fear and the assault. This is the argument that kyles prosecution tried to make. You lose self defence when you are the instigator.

@yareddeyaso1219

2 жыл бұрын

Kyle's prosecution was on something during that whole trial. The sad part is that the prosecution is only supposed to bring up the details of the case and present solid reasons as to why the defendant should be punished by the court of law but these people really tried to win it even if it meant fabricating evidence.

@CommunistJoeRogan

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure that skateboard was loaded and ready to fire🤡

@broskiyeets1599

2 жыл бұрын

@@CommunistJoeRogan underside of the board is basically a big hammer

@Eseerrowez

2 жыл бұрын

@@CommunistJoeRogan are you trying to make the claim that an adult male swinging a skateboard at your head isn't a serious concern? Are you a clown?

@eddiemitza2544

2 жыл бұрын

@@CommunistJoeRogan You can kill a person with much less than a skateboard. Getting pushed to the ground and hitting your head against the pavement can result in you death. Stop being a clown.

If I was in America, I'd honestly be scared as fk to do.... anything in the streets knowing someone could have a gun

I love you guys and the way you brake things down! Happy holidays to you and your families! Come do stand up in the tri state area!!! (P.a.) 💚🎄✔😉

Whenever cases like this pop up, I think it makes more sense to just stay away from media surrounding the topic to avoid having wild views being thrown from every direction and to try and just look at the facts such as just a video of the incident to form my own reasonable conclusion. It’s good to stay informed but bad to believe everything you hear or read especially on different platforms.

@TacseraEpSekahs

2 жыл бұрын

this is probably one of the reasons why when case have jurors on, they are obligated to pick people who didn't hear what media says about the case. And If a case is popular it sometimes becomes difficult to do

@samborghini5412

2 жыл бұрын

Yea facts are kind of important when it comes to murder trials tho.

@scurus11scurus

2 жыл бұрын

@@samborghini5412 exactly why to stay away from the media 🤷‍♂️

@samborghini5412

2 жыл бұрын

@@scurus11scurus lmao I see what you did there. Fr fuck the main stream media and these cell phones. Fb said they’re designed to make us depressed what more do we need to know to stop using this poison?

@locky7347

2 жыл бұрын

It is indeed good to be informed. But the news ain't trying to inform you

Top commentary from Aba on the media coverage. This kind of quality, humorous analysis is why I subscribe.

@prestona9658

2 жыл бұрын

ong. when he said "black supremacy", i was dead.

@AxxLAfriku

2 жыл бұрын

i was a boy. they were 138 girls. can i make it any more obvious? thats right, i had a crazy dream last night. HAHAHAHAHA!!! im the funniest youtube star ever. youre welcome for laughing dear sam

@samh-n2368

2 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku You alright there, mate? Maybe go outside and touch some grass. Perhaps take your meds (or seek treatment to get a prescription?).

Gentlemen, I love your candid honesty! I also truly appreciate your understanding of due process and presumption of innocence. These guys deserved to be found guilty as well as anyone who is found to have assisted in a coverup of the Murder. I put your channel up there with Russell Brand’s as far as calling for the truth and eliminating the bias that is so prevalent in today’s media. Thank you!

I wonder if people think im following them around the store when im just putting stuff on the shelves. Can seem like it sometimes but i never do it on purpose and then you acidentally look at them more than one time and things get awkward. The world is pain

Honestly this week restored some hope in the justice system. The two jurys and judges mad an excellent job and applied the law as it should be.

@tobiasreaper3650

2 жыл бұрын

Although I like your comment, and am glad that these cases restored your hope in the criminal justice system, I am going to add to it in a way that you might not like. I understand why you might lack faith in the criminal justice system, but the reasons behind your loss of faith, probably have little in common with these cases, and possibly, reality (just a guess, I don't know your reasoning). For starters, although these cases are a good test of the system in terms of technical working, they should not be the ones you look to for "faith" or "belief" in the system, which ironically enough, is what the vast majority of other cases with the same or similar charges are good for. Most people who want you to lack faith in the system typically like to cite a macro number or percentage of a demographic or charges or sentencing or socioeconomic background or conviction rate, but by doing so, are omitting all the relevant information about each individual case. Now I'm not going to say that they're flat out wrong, but I will say that most of them use speculative reasoning to reach and absolute conclusion, that they then preach as an absolute truth. The only tangible evidence they might have against the system comes from when they start citing actual cases of proven innocence, but by switching gears to individual cases, they have entered the realm of micro numbers (note: micro can become macro of built up to macro size). By analyzing individual cases, most macro number based arguments fall apart, because all the other relevant information about the case comes in to play. Now I'm going to tell you about current injustice. I'm going to make a guess and say that most cases in which people have been wrongfully convicted are cases in which there is no immediate suspect, unlike the two cases in the video, and cases of false accusation. Over the past 20 years, DNA has helped many people who were wrongfully convicted 30-40 years ago, and in almost all of those cases, there was no immediate suspect. DNA has helped free some people convicted in cases of false accusation, but video, specifically the fact we all carry cameras on our phones and the fact that we have security cameras everywhere has helped save people who have been falsely accused, from ever being charged. Deeper down the rabbit hole, you will encounter situations where the problems are with the law itself. I'm talking specifically about cases in which there is a disconnect between the law and science, some of which have potential to be improved, and others exist because this is the United States, and people have rights. For example, the FBI definition of a serial killer is the act of committing a certain number of homicides over a certain period time, but I'm not sure that intention beyond murder is in the definition. Now, having serial killer desires isn't illegal, the actual act of murder is, and FBI definitions aren't a law, that's just an example of the law vs definitions vs rights. Moral of the story, don't confuse macro based stats with legitimate cases by case research. Objective research studies have shown that juries in general have a 95+% of correctly deciding a case, meaning that most major anomalies are caused by sloppy detective work and/or sloppy/malicious prosecutors. If you are interested in more consistent current problems with the criminal justice system in the United States, look into actual laws and legal definitions that don't align with scientific/dictionary definitions.

Fun fact: the guy who jump kicked kyle was black…..the only guy out of the three who physically attacked Kyle and wasnt shot was a black man. He seriously failed at the whole white supremacist thing

@Ryan-cw1td

2 жыл бұрын

I mean the second guy did hit him in the back of the head with the skateboard and also grabbed his barrel but yeah

@usonly101

2 жыл бұрын

This is random, but I find it funny that Kyle calls him “Jump Kick Man” because no one tried to investigate who he was

@96Logan

2 жыл бұрын

@@usonly101 dude had mad hops, I think that's sufficient enough

@protoman1214

2 жыл бұрын

@@usonly101 he was identified. He was arrested for another crime some time ago, tried breaking a deal with the prosecution team to testify against Kyle but they didn’t want him. Surprise surprise, he also had a rapsheet for awful crimes just like the others Almost as if criminals have terrible impulse control and would attack someone without knowing whats going on….

@protoman1214

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ryan-cw1td i think you misread my comment. I wasnt saying only the black guy attacked him

I like how you described the case in detail

Great video agree with you 100 on both cases 😎👍

You guys have, once again, done a fantastic job of being objective and extremely logical in your analysis. Both of these cases and the way they panned out is proof that the justice system still has potential to work. Reform is definitely needed (Darrell Brooks is a fine example of that), but these juries have done an amazing job of following the law and honoring the constitution.

@LoriDawnLynn1981

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@frankdatank2304

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think they even watched the trial though, I mean they acted like Ahmad was just jogging absolutely wasn't true. This whole case got imploded over the judges unwillingness to make an interpretation on Georgia citizens arrest law.

@blakegillette839

2 жыл бұрын

@Frank Da Tank I watched both trials very closely and was absolutely careful not to convolute fact with opinion with having a background in the legal field. I watched the videos and analyzed them pretty intensely. Whether or not that man was just jogging does not override the fact that they attempted to make a citizen's arrest based on zero evidence that he had committed a crime. I actually think that Ahmad had a better self-defense claim when he tried to fight them off had he survived what most certainly looked like an attack. Also, three armed men against one unarmed man...as a law enforcement officer now, we would consider that an excessive use of force when things most certainly could have been handled utilizing less lethal means having that ratio of individuals in this scenario. We have case law that backs our authority with things like this (in my case Graham vs. Connor and Tennessee vs. Garner) to establish what use of force is reasonable. Had that been three armed officers against one unarmed man, with one firing a weapon on him rather than attempting to use less lethal force to subdue him, that'd be those officer's jobs and potentially freedom. These may not be trained officers, but if you're trying to play officer and make a citizen's arrest based on speculation, you had better be ready to face the consequences of your hip-shot actions.

@atticcus7935

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankdatank2304 he pretty much was just jogging. he didn't break any laws that day

@werwerqweqwe

2 жыл бұрын

@Shy Brotha Speaks It still would have been an excessive use of force, so no.

I had a conversation and it was asked of me why the third man, the one who filmed it, also received a murder charge when all he did was film, and I thought back to one of the early game of thrones seasons where Robb Stark hangs several of his men for murdering some prisoners, and one begs "spare me they made me watch." To which Robb replies "this man only watched, hang him last so he can watch the others." He was part of the posse, he could have stopped them at any time. Instead he filmed it like a vulture and then tried to weasel out thinking cooperating with the authorities would save him. Cooperation doesn't make you good or right, it only makes you are too weak to stand for what you did. It makes you a snake.

@MsDragonbal776

2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful comparison

@moimeself1088

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't just film. He also participated in the chase. At one point he was weaving about with his vehicle to corral AA towards the killers, and actually hit AA and landed him in a ditch. That's what he was found guilty of, false imprisonment and assault with his vehicle, but bc of the killing, those charges amounted to felony murder. He was found not guilty of malice murder (no intent) as well as the gun related charges cos he was not armed. There's video of him telling the cops what he did (and giggling about it), then he says he doesn't know if the should've been chasing him. He volunteered himself into prison. Should'a stayed fixing his porch.

I'll probably always watch Abba and Preach cause they don't fall one side or another's opinions and stick to a pretty damn consistent and thought out set of ethics and principles, might not always agree but they give damn good reasons for their positions and I can completely understand their positions.

Damn you guys are funny, glad you come up on my recommended, just subbed, looking forward to watching your other videos 👍

This is why I love these guys' channel so god damn much. Not only are they funny and provide awesome commentary, but they give the most unbiased point of view on any subject and are always informed on what's going on, despite what others are saying about whatever subject is at hand

@owennesbeth3818

2 жыл бұрын

@Anal Farmer interesting pfp

My man turned to rick flair when he heard “guilty” 😂

@shloweiner1439

2 жыл бұрын

Woooooooo

@rflair

2 жыл бұрын

What did I do?

Yall are my favorite channel on KZread. I just dig the way you put forth your opinions. Intelligent and respectful yet humorous. That's all I wanted to say :)

Thank you for giving a clear headed view of both these cases. 8)

When the killing happened last year, even Ben freaking Shapiro said that it was a clear case of unjustified murder, that's how open and shut this case was...

"Citizens arrest" they should have known it was game over from the start.

I heard that the they were listening to Beer for My Horses on their eight track player in that pick up.

I'm about to jog thru a empty house right now

I agree with both verdicts. Don't try to take the law into your own hands (call the police and mind your business) and don't try to attack someone and then act shocked when they defend themselves.

The sad music and zoom ins were so petty, but I ain’t mad at it 😂😂

"out rage" lmao

I haven’t been subscribed for but a minute but, You guys got a real take In more ways then one. Thank you

I figured that guilty verdicts were going to be handed down. It was captured on film and was an obvious ambush. Our country should address people playing cop who don't have badges.

@charleshill1906

2 жыл бұрын

Right, because defending property from career criminals is SOLELY a police action. Maybe wait until you're being raped to have that same stance. Don't worry, by the time the guy's finished his 5th load the cops will still be 20 minutes out. Or in this case, wait on the cops to do something while your home is being raided by a psychopath. I'm sure he's going to stick around and wait for them to arrest him and not just run off into the night with everything he can carry. They'll totally get all that shit back and your bank totally won't give you the run around while you try and reverse all the charges he made with your cards...

@hakumenx1

2 жыл бұрын

@@charleshill1906 those are very different things. Your examples are crimes actually being committed whereas in this case there were 0 crimes linked to him. The home owner said nothing was stolen, the three men who chased him down had no idea about his past criminal record (with absolutely no context), the fbi found 0 links to him and those crimes so yes Those 3 men over stepped their boundaries and got a man killed for essentially no reason then lied multiple times on police reports and their story. Trust me the only reason Aubury isnt being paraded like a violent criminal is because the recording was confiscated and they couldnt "lose" it.

@charleshill1906

2 жыл бұрын

@@hakumenx1 Trespassing IS a crime. In case you forgot. It wasn't his home, he had no permission to be there. IE, he was criminally trespassing. McMichael's were made aware of his criminal record by the police who deferred to them when contacted by the home owner. They literally told McMichael's about Arbery because they identified him to them. That's why they were armed. Arbery has an extensive and violent criminal record with multiple felonies one including bringing a gun to a school.

@wildbeast5553

2 жыл бұрын

@@charleshill1906 am gonna assume you have access to all that information and are willing to share it with us, or here me out you have not facts but just opinion

@painlessdreams831

2 жыл бұрын

@@charleshill1906 that doesn't give them the right to play cop and get some one killed because they wanted to be hero's. They had his name and the cops could find him if they wanted to. Also thousands of people trespass on property every day either on accident or on purpose but most if them don't go to jail their just told to leave the property and not get killed because some guys think their hero's

You two are absolute legends. I love the way you cut through the BS.

Yo it's videos like these that make me love these dudes...tell it like it is and should be!!!