Drinking alcohol while pregnant should be a crime.

I have an adopted daughter with FASD. I adopted her at 12 and all her history was exactly the same. Thank God we had support systems for us. My daughter was able to go to college and get two diplomas. She’s employed but yes impulsive and disruptive decisions are still made but I’m proud of her heart and her compassion. The fight is worth it!

@alexlux8337

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly, if you truly love your child you fight for them and give 100% effort. These shitty people clearly did not

@GhostBoy1023

6 жыл бұрын

Maxx Lux stop being so judge mental. Put yourself in their shoes and just think about the guilt they must be going through right now

@karaa7595

6 жыл бұрын

April Watkinson awesome!

@Em-vv8jr

5 жыл бұрын

Good on you. But not every child is as bad as Elly.

@chingalachuga6737

5 жыл бұрын

Wow that's sad

We had a foster child, three years old, who was so much like this one. I had three of my own little ones, and didn’t understand why my foster child could not bond, Began hurting me, telling me she wanted to make me bleed,, then tried to kill my own children. I am now 70 years old. I have learned to never judge someone else. Never ever. God bless this family, you guys will be in my prayers. I do know what you went through.

Before adopting my children through foster care, I was required to take classes. What stuck with me the most was learning that alcohol, is by far the most damaging substance to a fetus. While other substances are 'filtered' by the mother's body before reaching the baby, alcohol has the ability to bypass the stomach membrane and go directly into the blood stream. Thus, it's like pouring pure alcohol right into the baby. Their brain can then take on a Swiss cheese effect, causing holes throughout it. Yet, in America, alcohol is the most legal and easily accessible drug to anyone of drinking age. Disturbing!

@ArtTheSinger

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you think so many liquor stores are placed in Blacks communities? It has been the easiest and most effective way to attack the black community.

@CartePostale.

3 ай бұрын

Having been an MD, at least posters in almost all U.S.A. OB/GYN's offices warn of the dangers. We adopted a baby girl with F.A.S.E. (as it's now called) she made our lives hell until she left home at 18. Whe I asked my British GP why I saw NO posters warning of the ability of alcohol being able to cross the placental membrane (& no amount is small enough & no time is "safe"), her reply appalled me. "Well now, that wouldn't be politically correct & would only upset expectant mothers!"

@robinc4605

3 ай бұрын

@@CartePostale. That's absurd, bit sadly the world we are living in!

I was born with FASD, and being adopted by my foster parents at 10 months old was the best thing that ever happened to me.

@TehSaviorRemixer

2 жыл бұрын

Your birth mother

@thomasjetter2683

Жыл бұрын

@@TehSaviorRemixer ?

@CartePostale.

3 ай бұрын

@@TehSaviorRemixer I had the same reaction as, "thomasjetter2683". What did the words, "Your birth mother " even mean? Those three words, standing alone, mean absolutely NOTHING! Maybe you're one of those, never having seen an abortion,, you'd have preferred that Ellie's life was snuffed out? Before you start saying the nonsense I often hear I'd like to tell you of my female patients, having had an abortion, who are suicidal for the rest of their lives as they instinctually know they've snuffed out a life. Or my fellow clinicians who, having been taught to turn the CT scan screen away (the one where a usually happy mother watches everything on the screen & hears her child's heartbeat for the first time). Sadly, these obstetricians HAVE to watch the screen & they see the infant move to the farthest corner of the uterus flailing, to no avail, as they are torn limb-from-limb...... Those clinicians, having sworn, even in the modern version of the Hippocratic oath, to "First do no harm!" Two, that I knew well, took their own lives the memories destroyed their hearts & minds. So, unless you have opened your home to a woman who'd rather keep their child but have nowhere else to go or, have adopted children, at their birth mother's wish (we've done both & one of our children was born with F.A.S.D.

Unless you've lived with a child like this, you are in no place to judge them. There is no cure for this.

@sonjakrishnan373

5 жыл бұрын

Nikki Velazquez they chose to adopt a baby with fasd they should not have been allowed to adopt ever again

@NikkiVelazquez

5 жыл бұрын

@@sonjakrishnan373 they didn't know she had it at the time.

@Megan-tj9bu

5 жыл бұрын

Sonja Krishnan Did you even watch the video?

@sonjakrishnan373

5 жыл бұрын

Nikki Velazquez of course they didn’t but when you choose to adopt you take on that risk

@sonjakrishnan373

5 жыл бұрын

Merav Raanan I watched the entire video

They wanted to be parents, not psychiatric workers. Unless you’ve walked this path, no one has a right to criticize these parents.

@blackfirstdealwithitblack8098

5 жыл бұрын

Bitch a parent is everything, chef, teacher, psychiatrist, don't procreate. Parenting is hard hard work.

@nicky3524

5 жыл бұрын

Lmfao obviously they lack compassion. You don’t need to be a psych to be a parent. you turd.

@Ruth0Ruth0

5 жыл бұрын

They choose to be parents so they should look after her like any parent should, unconditionally. When you become a parent you can't choose your child's future. Would they have let their biological child go? .....

@liyanibernier5720

5 жыл бұрын

BLACKFIRSTDEALWITHIT BLACK nobody wants a brain damaged child especially one who’s aggressive and can harm vulnerable people what if she threw the young ones down the stairs or something?

@liyanibernier5720

5 жыл бұрын

Ruth Warne NO they wouldn’t but this child is brain damaged and was hurting the younger kids she wasn’t safe around them anymore plus there is no hope for a brain damaged child maybe in 100 years from now they will have the right medicine and treatments to fix them

I cannot believe the shade being thrown at these parents. What did you want them to do.....let the girl continue to make false abuse claims until CPS removes all of their children? Let her keep trying to kill herself until she succeeds and one or both of the parents go to jail for it? Let her keep hurting the other children until they end up in the hospital or dead? Let her disrupt a happy, healthy, safe childhood for the other kids in the house? No, no, no, and hell no. This was not a moral failing on their behalf, as there is something to be said about parents who can admit when they are out of their depth. Had the parents made the news bc she found a way to kill herself, you lot would be the first to crucify the parents for not putting her into 24hr care like docs told them to when she was 3. I think the parents realized that this was a tragedy waiting to happen and good for them for recognizing it before it was too late. I'd rather be judged by the world for getting her the help she needs than for not being able to prevent her suicide or someone else's death by her hand.

@Sailormoonfan88

5 жыл бұрын

Amy, blame Elie's birth mom for drinking while she was pregnant!!!! This innocent little girl didn't ask for this her mother was a selfish bitch who didn't care.

@moniquegagne2272

5 жыл бұрын

If I did what they have done bring "my daughter bk" there is no way that i would be able to bring that precious daughter of mine bak where i took her from i would not be able to live w/myself no matter what the situation @ home + it wouldn't be my daughter's fault that she was born this way

@haileyparsons3844

5 жыл бұрын

They could have given her medication, they could have taken her to a psychiatrist and have them come up with techniques to deal with the child. And worse case scenario take her to a mental institution to get her on the medicine that she needs. Their are so many other ways that child could gotten help, that people seem to forget because they consider it creul or never heard of them. You do everything to fight for the child, you never give them up. Blood related or not.

@moniquegagne2272

5 жыл бұрын

OHHH, please instead of taking their side it sure ain't that little angels fault they could have look 4 support an still keep that little precious angel

@saywen5825

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. Such hypocrisy in these comments. The following verse from the bible comes to mind: "For they tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them." (Matthew 23:4)

I'm not judging them and I get their position, but why did they go to the news with it?

@silentrunner7283

6 жыл бұрын

To get sympathy and someone out there is going to go awww here's some money. Plus if you run to the media first telling your side of the story... when the real story of "how I booted out my adopted kid, when my biological daughter showed up" story comes out it "trys" to make you look better to the public. Also maybe there's a writer out there that wants to cash in with anything and make a book, movie etc. The couple is probably hoping one watches this and cash in on the "poor lives with a defected kid"

@mzdimplz93

6 жыл бұрын

So that pregnant mothers will see and understand the dangers of drinking while pregnant

@blondwiththewind

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly, madimplz......but even more important is the public education that should occur regarding this topic. Any person at risk of becoming pregnant OR planning to become pregnant, should stop drinking or using other substances BEFORE they get pregnant OR use birth control if they do not wish to become pregnant. Unfortunately: the first trimester of pregnancy is when a lot of congenital defects due to "exposures" to numerous factors occur. MANY MOTHERS HAVE BEEN DRINKING AND/OR USING DRUGS BEFORE THEY KNOW THEY ARE PREGNANT....BUT THE DAMAGE MAY HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED. Don't wait until you find out you are pregnant: take steps to avoid problems by not drinking if you are planning to get pregnant.

@marykay8587

6 жыл бұрын

Silent Runner how would they get money for this? They don’t get paid, they were asked to ‘raise awareness’ of what FAS can do, it’s a lot more common than one thinks...

@gentleeyes

6 жыл бұрын

I think they wanted people to make them feel better about giving up their adopted child.

Ohhh, don't past judgement people. This is a hard life. I have 2 adoptive sons who are FASD and unless you walk in the adoptive parents shoes, don't anyone past such judgement. My heart goes out to both of you. We have one in care too, I pray God gives you both strength to continue helping her.

@jiyon6246

6 жыл бұрын

The girl needs professional help with people who can attend to her needs who are EXPERIENCED. FASD and BPD, is no joke especially if it is as serious as what the parents claim. She can injure herself and others, she needs to be rehabilitated and learn some cognitive skills before she can coexist with her family. Unhealthy behavior this early on will only worsen if she is not surrounded by people who understand her condition. Ask yourself this when you have an out of control child that's controlling your own life. There's a difference between sacrifice and inefficient resources to care for kids with disorder. "then you shouldn't have kids at all" As if you could handle something like this on your own.

@snappysnap955

6 жыл бұрын

Beth, get a grip girl....this child put the entire family at risk...do you understand that? Not just because she was physically attacking them, but because she could have had all the children taken out of the home. How can you fault them?! Should they have just taken their chances and possibly had their other children taken away because this girl was lying about being beaten??? This poor girl, it's no fault of her own, but I pray she can get the help she really needs. I can't fault this family...they had no idea because it was not revealed to them, but you can't have the whole family become victimized because of her either.

@BarbieOliver

6 жыл бұрын

*pass judgement

@chainsawkitten3766

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, well, what if it was their biological kid? Would it be ok to judge them then???? Sorry, but adoption should be a commitment for life, no matter the issues, just like it is when you give birth to your own children. Adoptive parents go on and on about how the child is just as much theirs as it would be if they gave birth to it....unless there is an issue like this? Seems like some of them want it both ways. No matter how you acquire your children, there are no guarantees. Maybe their natural child will get cancer, or develop a mental illness...maybe she'll die of a drug overdose when she is 15. These people failed this kid. Oh, but now that they have their perfect family intact, they want to educate everyone on FASD. Such great people.

@schewitt1977

6 жыл бұрын

beth s look she very well could have harmed the young sibling as a new born. She was running on to the road. What would have happened if she did that at night when the parents were asleep? It's about safety. Hers as well.

It's wrong to drink doing pregnancy, but it's more wrong to adopt a child and the return it as if it was a dog...

@thetruepatriot7733

Жыл бұрын

He's dead, suicide. He got caught by an organization named People vs Predators trying to meet a 14yr old boy for s3x.

We need an update.

for everyone saying "but I bet if she gave birth to her she wouldn't be giving her away" well ACTUALLY, if ellie was biologically theirs she wouldnt have all these problems because the mom wouldnt have been using drugs and alcohol during pregnancy. she wouldve been born a NORMAL HEALTHY child and couldve grown up to be happy.

@ladula

6 жыл бұрын

Sydney... Anyone of her biological children could develop a mental health dissorder or learning disabilitiy not associated with substance missuse during pregnancy. What is more, prospective parents really need to take into consideration the pottential background and environment their future child is coming from. If they can't handle it then don't do it. I work with adults who went simular situations as children and the effect of being sent from place to place as children has had on them. I wish they had a "middle class adult brats living in a dream world" section of the risk assement as these children deserve better.

@sagegang7439

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Sutherland I think they mean fasd not things like autism

@resistthetcult5514

6 жыл бұрын

Jayden Battee Oh yes because FASD and autism are the only mental health disorders or learning disabilities aren't they!

@GrandmotherSunshine

6 жыл бұрын

Sydney It's the way they are talking about her in general was disgusting because she's not their biological child. Also it doesn't matter that they got lied to.

@Silverado-pq6xe

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Sutherland you’re an idiot, the disorder is caused by drinking while pregnant you fucking loser

I think the real issue here is with the title and description. They put her with a guardian family and are still involved with her and remain her parents. If this had happened with a biological child they wouldn't have titled it the same way. The reality is that she was not only a danger to herself but a danger to the other kids.. would it have been better to let something happen rather then be preventative? Its no different than hospitalization. If this family didn't have other children and could devote the time to her, I'm sure they would be doing what the guardian foster family is doing.. but there is no way to do that without neglecting the remaining kids. Think about how that would affect them. Not to mention they likely visit and talk to Ellie on a regular basis, and they are reassessing the situation once the year is up and looking at options.. likely one of which is the possibility of her coming home provided she's no longer a danger. If they "gave her away" they would have cut off contact with her.

@RainMaker-mc4vz

10 жыл бұрын

Bullshit. They didn't think they could have more kids. SO they adopted. Then, found out they could have more kids, so Screw the little girl with problems. I BET YOU if this was there biological child they would NOT have placed her in a foster home. They were not in the least bit sad or grieving. They are EVIL people who don't want to honor the responsibility they took.

@RainMaker-mc4vz

10 жыл бұрын

***** No they don't....they are full of it, I found some more articles and even found Lori Gertz's Facebook page and she rambles on and on and on about her 2 biological kids but no mention anywhere of Ellie. In fact a story I found at abc.com about them had a comment at the bottom from the people who took Ellie and they have actually adopted her, thank Goodness someone is loving that little girl. And for as much as those people bullshit everyone about how much they LOVED her, they sure don't seem to even mention it. In fact in the articles they talk about how broke they went trying to get help for her but some how they managed to buy a big huge gorgeous house in southern California and are doing all kinds of remodeling. You can find the bitch on Facebook. Not ONE mention of Ellie, actually I take that back, I read through all the way back to 2010 in her posts that are all about her and her 2 bio kids but there is one mention of an interview she did to talk about "E".... yep, she referred to her only as E!!! It took all I had not to leave a long message to her but I figured, there is all kinds of evil in the world and hopefully this family that took Ellie and has since adopted her are giving her what she deserves and I hope someday those people burn for what they did.

@lardethb

10 жыл бұрын

Raina Robles I'm friends with Lori on facebook and you're full of crap. She talks about Ellie and her heartbreak at having to re-home her fairly often. You need to get help. You're a very angry, rageful person.

@audrianamichelin8726

7 жыл бұрын

Lori Toupal. You're a LIAR!!! Now I just scrolled through her entire facebook page and as I scrolled pass 2017,2016,2015,2014 I learned a lot. I also realized how disgusting these people are. They cuddle their biological children they shower them with love and affection. And you're trying to tell me that Elle couldn't have beaten the odds had she been given the chance to do so. She mentioned ELLE in 2012 (not the fostering or Elles pain) and her (Lori) pain with having realizing the Elle had a problem. She talked about looking into Elles beautiful brown eyes and how hard it was for her (Lori) to deal with Elle because of her mental illness. She followed suit for 2013, 2012, 2011 nothing before that on her Facebook. But Elle was only mentioned 3 times in 7 years! And only on 09/09 fas awareness day nothing about her life before that nothing about how Elles doing but only about Lori's "pain" with having to deal with Elle. Not about how she gave her up. I hate these people. And even more so I stand firmly behind my original thoughts on the matter. In 2016 I hit this shared post about children with adhd and they're behavioral patterns. Lori captioned the post "interesting" and her husband Craig commented "that explains a lot" so great. Tali (their biological daughter) is doing really well tho, Camp, horse riding lessons, all the love she could ever want. Also their son he just graduated high school and is heading off to college, had about 3 or 4 choices. But Elle no mention in the last 7 years as to her whereabouts or how she's doing, I wonder if she's still in foster care, if she had a chance to attend high school, did she go to camp, how's she? My heart broke as the years of Lori, Craig and their kids life was spelled out in a backwards stream with no update on the daughter they once had. Now I'm crying in bed. How determined are you to find something wrong with a 6 years old that you spend to get 39 opinions. 39! They were looking for a reason to give her up I'll never give them my forgiveness. I wish Elle had found parent her first time around. People who would love her unconditional regardless of her mother's mistakes. She just needed understanding and patience that the gurtz found in limited supply after Tali's birth. Sad

@WhatTheHellRachelle

7 жыл бұрын

Lori Toupal Yet somehow her foster parents are managing to care of Ellie.

I’m pregnant.. I could never do something that would hurt my twins.

This was published in 2010..... I wonder how she is doing now in 2019?

@sassyg950

4 жыл бұрын

Brandy Wheelis Sadly the prognosis is not good. The damage is forever; that’s why pregnant women should never consume alcohol. Having worked in a part of the world where ETOH consumption has been present in pregnant women, many of these children grow up to to be incarcerated due to impulsive behaviour and poor choices.

They weren't aware she was an FAS baby, she's putting their other kids at risk, I get it. What a nightmare.

@tinahuttner7280

6 жыл бұрын

0 5 think the parents are trying to send the message of the fact Ellie needs one on one enttention. She needs to be in a home where she's the only child.

@sagegang7439

6 жыл бұрын

ann l she does but it makes sense since she hurts little kids due to her biological mother and her stupid actions.

@pedinurse1

6 жыл бұрын

cannot blame these parents, even if it were their own child, are you going to risk your other children?????

@nodrogytsirk

6 жыл бұрын

0 5 z

Unless you step up to adopt this child NO ONE has the right to pass judgment on this family.

my aunt had to do this with 3 adopted kids. She took in 5 kids from a drug mother who gave 3 of her kids this, with one getting autism and this. It is never easy, but they were stealing, drugs, and even sodomized her younger children, and they were just tweens and teens when they did this! She took them to judges and they would put them in special programs with animals for empathy and more, and they just didn't care. Finally the judge ruled for the oldest girl that she just belonged in jail since at 18 she didn't care about anyone but herself and wouldn't stop stealing. the second oldest went into a foster home at 16, then latter went to jail for good reasons. The autistic one also went into foster care after sodomizing a 4 year old sibling at 14..... you can tell it ruined this little girl's life! For people who are upset with this family, realize that this was a council decision, and it is never easy. It is either this girl, or the rest of her family has issues and anger for life while it is tearing everyone apart. I agree with their decision after seeing the tragedy of my aunts family, those three children messed up ALL of the other children (10 in total including the five) in the family and they will have issues themselves for the rest of their life. It isn't fair to the ones who have to live with those trouble making siblings, it just isn't. Its a tragedy and I wish my aunt let them go into foster care sooner and at least some of the siblings could have been saved. Believe me foster care isn't fun, my aunt grew up with foster care as her mother was a foster care giver so she knows exactly what foster care is. My aunt wanted to not just care for unfortunate children, but to give them a good stable home. Now she blames herself for letting those children get away with destroying other children she took in (two from another mom) and her 3 children of her very own (after being told she would NEVER be able to have children, hence why she adopted so many children and refused to separate siblings) She still loves and visits those kids, except the oldest as she joined a gang.... and wishes them the best. it is heartbreaking, but sometimes you have to make a hard decision before an even harder one come up latter on. You have to see another side to the story before judging.

My best friend has FASD, sometimes she’d do things that drive me crazy but I’m still really grateful that she’s my best friend because we have a lot of things in common, we hang out with her and her mom, overall she’s one of the greatest friends I ever have

@ginmill5280

8 ай бұрын

So does my best friend,sadly I’m one of her only friends,she doesn’t speak to anyone in her family,especially her parents,who still are addicted to drugs and drinking.. She doesn’t drink at all,which with me she doesn’t have to worry.. It breaks my heart how she is treated,my mom loves her like a daughter,my father loves her as well but he breaks down and cries being around her..

when they got rid of her that only worsened the attachment disorder

FASD is an unrecognised disaster. A study just out in my city shows 49% of 100 children assessed in the juvenile detention centre had FASD. Many of those kids had up to 5 other developmental disabilities along with FASD. 25% off those kids had an IQ of less than 70 which means they are not competent to stand trial in court. This is a one off, first study of its kind for kids who are locked up here. What a tragedy. Alcohol is a drug that causes so much harm but it is socially acceptable and the government makes huge profits taxing it's sale. Why?

@alexlux8337

6 жыл бұрын

Because it's fucking America and all our government cares about is money

@marchforth3515

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, I hate how normalized smoking and drinking is. Kids at my school do it a lot and they talk about it. I don’t wanna be That Person so I wouldn’t completely outlaw it but there really needs to be restrictions and tougher laws. I don’t agree with imprisonment or even large fines myself but idk. Parents offer their kids little, harmless alcohol contented stuff, but idk even if it’s harmless I feel like it still desensitizes them. My parents have offered me tiny sips but even that makes me feel like I’m betraying myself when I said I would never drink. I don’t even drink soda anymore lol

@chingalachuga6737

5 жыл бұрын

SkullLily Inc. You don't have to drink, I'm 23 and have never drank or done any types of drugs, my husband is 24 and has never drank or done any types of drugs. His family drinks all the time, but when you just don't allow it to be a part of your life, you're not even tempted or interested. We see how people act when they use substances, drugs or alcohol, and we don't approve. It's pointless poisoning in our opinion. Not even a sip. We have a son who is 1 year old and we are setting the example for him and our future kids, that alcohol doesn't have to be normal. Look for someone on the same page as you too, my husband and I have been together almost 8 years and I wouldn't have picked someone who didn't have the same views as me. Be a teetotaler or straightedge (Google those). ☺

@Durka-Durka

5 жыл бұрын

Don't put down your country and say all it cares about is money. You wana go live in some shit-hole country - go right ahead. If they made alcohol illegal you'd probably be the first one saying fuck the government for making it illegal.

@MissyFaye

5 жыл бұрын

you don't have to say "of 100" that's what "percent" (%) means..

Anyone wonder if Ellie were their birth child if they would have given her away???

@mewlepew4522

6 жыл бұрын

Beth Grant-DeRoos They likely wouldn’t have. And that’s why they’re shitty as fuck people

@jaquelinegarcia119

6 жыл бұрын

Beth Grant-DeRoos they probably still would. Since she would be harming herself and the other children still. Yet, it wouldn't be possible since if Ellie was their biological kid, the mom wouldn't be abusing drugs which led to her disorder.

@YurinanAcquiline

6 жыл бұрын

Beth Grant-DeRoos I bet my left arm, they not have given up that girl if she was their biological daughter. It is even easier because they had a daughter later.

@synthiamcbride7194

6 жыл бұрын

If she had been their birth daughter, she would not have had Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

@FRESCO_KUN

6 жыл бұрын

MrPippinsays I have to disagree. In my experience with children with multiple problems ( I grew up with one ) parents will always try to keep the entire family together, my brother although not being diagnosed the same as Ellie did/does many of the things she does and yes it has cost us so much grief and problems but somehow we have managed to keep it together the last 16 years. It’s definitely not easy but my mom chose ALL of her children, and I doubt most people can say that they would do the same. But it takes everybody being together and on the same page. And along the way we stayed a family when the odds were against us. Not going to go into all the specifics with that in the KZread comment section though. But it’s hard but possible.

I am an alcoholic. I stopped the same day i found out i was pregnant. I didn't feel there was any choice, the cravings for alcohol were horrific but i did it. I have now been sober/abstinent for 4.6 years. It can be done. I have two beautiful, healthy normal children. I feel so blessed.

@agricolaregs

4 ай бұрын

Good job, babe. A little won’t hurt but daily is no good. Think of the thousands of year medieval chicks drank while preggo. Awesome job to quit. And I’m sure no harm was done while you didn’t know you were preggo.

The problem is that some parents are simply not equipped to deal with some of the severe emotional and psychological issues with adopted children. I think it was very brave of them to be able to admit defeat.

@lilanpuff9524

6 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone with some sense!

@BelindaTN

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. And they may very well have had to give up a biological child to protect the other children. No one, and I mean no one, knows what they will do in such a difficult situation, until they are faced with it.

@LR39LR40EDIT

6 жыл бұрын

Then don't have them.

I fully understand their reason I just cannot believe the awful life this little angel was destined for!! Surely to God above no child should ever be born addicted and then be abandoned! For the love of children please Lord help this baby! Heartbreaking 😭

What no one else is talking about is that not only did their adopted child have FASD she also had RAD (Reactive Attachment Disorder). This is something that typically happens when you don't have stable parental figures and have been bounced around in foster homes. This is also difficult to rehabilitate and as I'm listening to the story it seemed to be triggered by her pregnancy. I can't even imagine how difficult it must be for a young child. You get adopted but yet again your guardians or parents figure dumps you. How could you ever trust again? I would like to see an update with the child as an adult. Another thing we need to recognize is that birth order is also a factor in this dynamic If you are used to being an only child and then being adopted into a growing family could be hard. Or when you have blended families from divorce the children don't know their place it used to be a hierarchy and blending it all together without parents realizing it adds more stress on the child. Where is their place? We really don't take much time as parents to understand the stress on children's lives when huge changes take place. We say oh children are resilient that is false they need stability more than adults.

I believe that the parents are truly acting in the very best of Ellie's welfare. Very important message about danger of alcohol to unborn children.

She's hurting her siblings and needs help 24 hrs. She needs parents with no other children that will dedicate her so much time. Also they didn't know she was sick

@d.m.173

6 жыл бұрын

Parents make these decisions all the time. Their kids could have had something else that would cause a sometimes violent child. You deal with it. You shouldn't throw her away because you can't deal. Watch your children. I don't agree with them throwing her away they don't even sound like they cared about her

@jacobofelix5664

6 жыл бұрын

The girls its not a puppy they can return, its a human being, they adopted her and now they see that shes damaged and now they don’t want her? Thats fucked up

@elarivera8182

6 жыл бұрын

Stephanie Alfaro I agree she needs parents without other children that can dedicate their whole time to her... poor girl 😭 I can’t imagine her pain. I think abortion should be legal and free for alcoholic and drug addict pregnant women. It is just not right bringing babies to suffer

@butitssummerma6436

6 жыл бұрын

Jacobo Felix I agree it just broke my heart watching this.

@lovelyannesalinas8545

6 жыл бұрын

You think abortion should be legal and free for pregnant women who are drug and alcohol addictions? Why, so that there are no messed up kids born with problems the way this girl had problems? What you said is the worst thing ive ever heard. They should not be having abortions just so they can stay addics and get pregnant again and do it all over again. They should be getting help for their child they are pregnant with. Getting sober is a challenge for people. But if it is that much of a challenge that you cant get help for the one your carrying then the woman should be putting their self on protection, like birth control? Its not fair for a baby to not have a chance at life just because they have a messed up parent who wont go out of their way to protect them. All babies should have a chance at life. There is a chance they might come out with some problems when they get older, but there is also a chance that they can get the help they need.

I can't even imagine what these parents were facing, but the way this is worded... "give Ellie up to save their family..." Why is Ellie not considered to be part of that family?

@gardenjoy5223

5 жыл бұрын

C C, But they clearly see Ellie as part of their family. Only Ellie was taring that whole family apart. In order to save the family Ellie has to grow up somewhere, where she cannot hurt herself or other children. It's like having a child that is holding a gun at another child and will shoot some bad day. This handicap is not to be trifled with. There just is no eloquent way to deal with this. These parents have done all they could and more. You wrote it yourself, it is perhaps just worded not well enough. To make an inadequate wording to mean something it doesn't, is not helpful.

@edmey

5 жыл бұрын

She is a danger to the family. They had no choice.

@TexasbyStorm

5 жыл бұрын

She is, they couldn't keep her safe, letting her go allowed her to be somewhere she cannot harm herself or others. This child's birth mother failed her in the worst way, such a selfish woman.

@moniquegagne2272

5 жыл бұрын

GREAT QUESTION CC GREAT QUESTION

@LucyAmberon

5 жыл бұрын

C C it’s obvious she was that’s just commentary which they probably had little say on.

centuries ago people would have probably abandoned this child in a well, or kept her in a cage. at least these parents tried to help little ellie by getting her competent care.

I guarantee if there biological child developed an emotional disorder and went through the same thing they wouldn't give him up for adoption. I wish the interviewer had a them this question; " if it turns out your son starts exhibition similar symptoms, will you be putting him up for adoption"?. Would sure have been telling.

@valhipkiss4011

Ай бұрын

Silly comment , that women didn’t drink when she was pregnant , so how can he ask her that .

I have an adopted child with FAS. It is hard--very, very hard. It has brought me to the brink of my own sanity at times. But give him away??? Never! We are family and we fight through life together. We overcome obstacles together. We move mountains together. He didn't choose FAS, but we chose him and we won't give up on him even if it kills us. And it very damn well might.

@mil3392

7 жыл бұрын

You are the true definition of mother!!!

@stellabella5269

7 жыл бұрын

Gina Rodriguez you are amazing!!! ☺ 💕 xoxox

@cats4114

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed :)

@witch6in6the6womb

7 жыл бұрын

Gina Rodriguez do you have other children?

@vanessaallan7311

7 жыл бұрын

Stella Bella yes i do happen to agree with you. The only point i see to make was this family adopting this wee girl had no knowledge what so ever of any medical records stating her FASD, had they been given this detailed correct medical information the out come probably would have been different from the out set. An extremely dedicated family with specifically training would match as an adopted parent. This poor little girl didn't ask for this disease. Shame on the birth mother i hope she has not had anymore babies its a cycle that needs to be broken.

Wow they tried to help her and take care of her. I pray the child is placed in a healthy home

@stephanidcastano3877

6 жыл бұрын

MomsWithThoughts o

@julieangona1677

6 жыл бұрын

such a sad story...but they did what was best for them selfs and the child...some children are born in to hell

@hebatallah207

6 жыл бұрын

They have alternatuves , piological children , why bother ?? And they have the nerves to talk about it in TV.

@maxwellalberts7332

6 жыл бұрын

You know fuck all about this syndrome.

@w.a.watson3078

6 жыл бұрын

"BORN INTO HELL"?. What is this? Are you trying to tell readers this child was a demon from hell?

As an adopted child this was my biggest fear as a little kid that my awesome parents who i loved would give me away. Yikes this was truly heartwrenching I feel so sad for the the little girl and the guilt her apoptive parents must feel isn't something I would wish on anyone.

@roseofsharon1009

6 жыл бұрын

Krow mother were you a threat to your parents and other siblings ? They did what they had to do to protect themselves and their kids.

@krowmother6970

6 жыл бұрын

Didn't you read the part where I said I feel so bad for the little girl and i empathized with the guilt and pain the parents must feel? It wasn't hard to guess the family feels terrible sadness and guilt over what decision had to made for the safety of the family. And for your information I have no siblings and Yes i had many behavior problems as an adolescent and young adult my birth mother had a severe addiction to drugs hence the adoption. If my parents had any other children and I had been a threat to them I would have no doubt they would have done the exact same thing as this lovely family. I am sorry if my comment offended you or came off as callous. Please have a nice day.

@krowmother6970

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful words. Please have a lovely and bright day!!

@mariaphares4783

6 жыл бұрын

I was also adopted at age 6. That was also one of my biggest fear too. I thought that they were going to get sick of me and wanted to return me. This situation is so sad. I am glad that you have loving parents. :)

@krowmother6970

6 жыл бұрын

I hope you had loving parents too! Thank you for letting me know that you understand what I'm talking about. I wish you all the best and brightest in the future. Please have a Lovely day.

My dad died of alcoholism. I miss him and I love him so much but I am quite thankful it wasn't my mother with the illness because of this syndrome xxx

I have seen first first hand how a mental health issue can effect a family. You should not be so quick to judge. they tried for years with Ellie, they did not "get rid of her" as soon as they realized they could have another baby. they did what was best for the majority of her family. she was trying to hurt her siblings. they did not just leave her at an orphanage or abandon her. they are still present in her life she still calls them mom and dad, she is just living separately so she doesn't hurt anyone including herself. being bi polar often mean that the child has no remorse. that is truely scary to see in a person expecially a child. they made the right choice for their other 2 children. imagine how those children feel, that they have to go through daily abuse because of their sister. it is not fair to them, this way they are still in eachothers life but no one is in danger. and once she is on the right medication to control her actions, then she may be able to come back and live with the family. there is no right answer because the situation is difficult. there is no way to please everyone, because each individual will have a bias view on things. what would you do if your other children were in danger because of your other child's mental disorder? let them get hurt and have a horrible view on relationships when they grow up, or show them that sometimes the responsible choice is not choosing what you want but whats right instead. if ellie could push her mother who was pregnant down he stairs, then what is stopping her from pushing her brother or sister, and one of them breaking their necks? it is not an easy decision to make but that doesn't make it wrong.

@RainMaker-mc4vz

10 жыл бұрын

Bullshit! If that was there biological child they would have kept her. When you adopt a child you adopt the good and the bad. They discarded her like trash. DISGUSTING. They should not be aloud to reproduce. Maybe that is why they had so many miscarriages to begin with.

@lardethb

10 жыл бұрын

***** Why? Because there was never any sign that they were abusing her, that's why. You must be either very young or extremely immature for your age because you are full of yourself and think you have all the answers about something you've never actually dealt with. I've parented kids with FASD and kids with mental illness. I have other adopted children, as well. One of my daughters was not only physically abusive with her siblings, she also repeatedly lied about me to anyone who would give her attention for it, leaving the rest of my children in constant fear that her lies would be taken seriously and they would be ripped from their home. We all lived in a state of constant anxiety, wondering when the next time would be that she attacked one of us, destroyed the other kids' things, took off and disappeared or had the social workers at our door. When she was 13 I was finally able to get her into a residential treatment facility, where she got 24/7 supervision, therapy and one-on-one help with her schooling. She recently graduated from high school and is learning to live on her own in a semi-supervised apartment. She plans to attend college in the Fall. These past three years are the first time that most of her siblings have been able to live a normal life. They can live without fear of attack now. They can invite their friends home and not fear what she will do. They don't worry that every phone call or knock at the door might be a social worker, come to take them away. The change in our household is palpable. We laugh and joke around, rather than being constantly on edge. Did I feel awful about having to leave my daughter in a residential treatment facility and not let her come home? Yes, absolutely. Did she call and beg me to let her come home? Yes, and it tore me apart. DId I make the right call for her, for the other children and for myself? Yes, I believe I did. Lori and her husband made the decision to allow Ellie to be adopted by the other family because she was able to bond with them and they were able to give her the one-on-one time that she needed. They did it with a lot of pain and soul searching; it wasn't easy for them at all. They made the choice that they thought was best for their entire family, including Ellie. You, Ichy and Raina, can never understand the horrendous pain it causes a parent to be forced to choose between their children. You need to stop talking about things you don't really understand and stop pouring your anger and hatred out on a stranger. Go get psychological help. You need it.

@katherinemoreno4999

6 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏

@felixpeelix5155

6 жыл бұрын

I think you have bipolar disorder confused with sociopaths. Bipolars feel remorse. Sociopaths do not feel remorse.

@Fabian_Orozco

6 жыл бұрын

Angela R They did get rid of her. Such a disappointment, instead of sticking together through hard times they decide to abandon her. My brother was diagnosed with bipolar disorder when he was 7, (my mom never in her life smoked or drinked alcohol btw) and let me tell you it's hard having a brother who is violent and wants to commit suicide often, and his mood changes for no reason, it's hard having to call the police and see your family member being taken away in handcuffs but despite all of the hardships we went through as a family we NEVER gave up on him. He is now 18 years old and he is capable of controlling himself better than when he was younger. He sometimes has his moments but most of the time I forget he has bipolar disorder. Family sticks together no matter what.

don't blame them. blame the birth mother.

@peppermintwoman2049

6 жыл бұрын

Teneysia Leno no don't blame the birthmother. Most of the time mothers are dealing w their own traumas and cope by self medicating. Shaming the mothers is ignorant and lacking any compassion for their own reasons to have done what they did.

@peppermintwoman2049

6 жыл бұрын

I have fasd and I don't blame my mother. She has had horrible traumas her entire life. That is the root and shaming her would be counter productive and inhumane.

@sarahlane8430

6 жыл бұрын

Wea Wea to clarify I said all mothers who drink during pregnancy should be shot. When pregnant the mother is fully responsible for what happens to her fetus. These people tried to help at the expense of their own children. They made the right decision.

@sarahlane8430

6 жыл бұрын

Wea Wea Bahahaha so you edited out dumb bitch and still told me about it? You aren't very smart darling. That's the same as saying it in the first place.

@sarahlane8430

6 жыл бұрын

Wea Wea you weren't being facetious and you know it. Don't try to play or front like you are. FYI my parents don't drink and never have ;)

Sounds a disturbed little girl. If her brain is damaged then there is not much hope there. Poor kid will end up institutionalised. Her biological mother has a lot to answer for. Tragic case.

@shellirk2819

5 жыл бұрын

We do not institutionalize people with these disorders. For one, we only got a glimpse of the extreme negative effects Ellie displays. We weren't told about how well Ellie functions with daily living skills. She's going to require 24hr supervision and so much therapy in many different areas. It's entirely possible that she'll gain many skills and be able to live in a group home setting with 24 hour staff. She could improve in a lot of ways as she grows. Don't write her off. As for the birth mother's of these children, they should face criminal charges and serve serious time in prison for damaging the babies they carry. Those people make me sick!

@liyanibernier5720

5 жыл бұрын

Shelli RK it’s only because she’s a child she will be taken care of but once she’s an adult and people get tired of looking after her she will be rejected

@Orion227

5 жыл бұрын

Caprice123 .... so does the biological father.

@jerrypie

4 жыл бұрын

@@Orion227 I mean.... Her biological father wasn't drinking during while pregnant. That's the issue here.

I would file charges on the birth mother. These women need to be held accountable.

That poor girl and family. Every time I think I've seen the limits of how tragic and heartbreaking the human condition can be, I'm proven wrong.

I adopted my Son at birth and he too has FAS. It is a struggle and by teenage years can be dangerous. My beautiful Son has chosen to leave my home at 19 and live on the streets. He was so close with me and now I don't even know where he is or if he is safe.

@greeneyedgirlarteno6063

5 жыл бұрын

Lynne N I feel your pain. I relate

@barbibutton9619

5 жыл бұрын

Lynne N wow, I m so sorry. At least u loved him and didnt give him away. He'll come back.

@debrabaron6495

5 жыл бұрын

File a missing persons report. LE may say he left on his own. Say he has mental issues and you need to know how he's doing

@catmeres3719

5 жыл бұрын

I pray he is doing wonderfully and will come back into your life soon

@bettywilliamson6039

5 жыл бұрын

@@catmeres3719 I pray for you too,Lynne! Hope he comes back,or calls!I pray God gives you comfort and PEACE!

I inherited early onset bipolar disorder as a baby and overcame my disability at 16. I'm really happy my mom stuck with me but I was an only child. If I had siblings, I wouldn't doubt that I would've hurt them. I used to hit my mother out of rage and hurt myself by smashing glass into my hand and pulling my hair out. It took years of 1 on 1 treatment of me and my mom along with therapy and medicine for me to break through it. Imagine having brain damage and the same condition.. when you have the rest of the family to take care of, I think Ellie will get the help she needs and family that is safe with her. She might do better as an only child so she gets as much attention as possible.

I understand this family. It isn't fair to fight a war you can't win. They need peace. Hopefully they can find a cure or medicine that will help.

@sonofhibbs4425

5 жыл бұрын

The adoptive daughter needs peace too.

@liyanibernier5720

5 жыл бұрын

Son Of Hibbs No hope for that child she was diagnosed bipolar at the age of 6 What does that tell you she basically has no future she probably won’t make it to 25

I know children with FAS. I work with children with FAS. Therapy is easily attainable. Something isn't adding up. And the fact that they interviewed the youngest daughter to talk about Ellie like she was a problem pet is disgusting

@DandyBeingTandi

6 жыл бұрын

broadwaymelody33 You are so right. Completely inappropriate to interview the biological child! This case could definitely be used to discourage placement for other children with FAS, something that is so treatable (by parents that are willing, clearly these people just weren't!).

@karaa7595

6 жыл бұрын

broadwaymelody33 i agree. Wth was that about, having the biological child speak negatively about the adopted one.

@neurotic-hobbit

3 ай бұрын

Agreed!!! I've worked with adults and kids with FASD my whole life (not even exaggerating lol) and it feels like these "parents" wanted a perfect child and when it didn't turn out this way they gave up.

Would never give my child up and Iv been through this. The best thing is get the child help! If need be send them away for a month or longer to get help but never fully give up on them. It’s not the child’s fault

I can’t understand how a mother could be so selfish to ruin her birth child’s life by drinking while pregnant. She must have been really bad if they absolutely had to give her up.

hearbreaking, as someone who’s adoptive sibling had similar and extreme behavioral issues, it truly strains a family To the max and puts everyone at risk. Heartbreaking situation I hope this family finds peace as does the little girl.

Sorry, here in my state if a sibling is hurting other siblings CPS will step in. Every child has the right to be protected and cared for including siblings. One child doesn't get to destroy the lives of other children. Harsh, sad but true. The person at fault is the biological mother who chose to inflict her child with toxic substances and the agency for not being up front. Here every agency must reveal all medical issues with regards to the biological family including mental illness. I would never adopt any child with a history of mental illness or hope that they don't inherit it. I have seem the damage that mental illness and violent behaviour problems have on families and other siblings. I know of siblings who have nothing to do with their parents anymore because they felt scared and insecure in their own home because of another sibling as children. It affected the emotional well being and school. Children like this need a home where there are no other children or pets and cared for by specialized skilled families. Biological parents abandon children every day with medical problems all over the world. Biological parents also choose abortion if there might be an issue with their child. That is a different choice. Another family were told if they did not find an alternative for the child who had schizophrenia then the other children would be taken from their home. Their daughter was threatening to kill her siblings and came at them with a knife.

@Xforeverlove21

6 жыл бұрын

FASD occurs when the pregnant mother drinks alcohol, what a horrid woman. If she didn't want the child she should have aborted instead of making everyone including the child suffer. It's not the adoptive parents fault at all, safety comes first.

@NickanM

6 жыл бұрын

*This is true, and more people should be aware of it before they judge others like these parents.*

@Silverado-pq6xe

6 жыл бұрын

51Saffron nice essay

@aprildannette9820

6 жыл бұрын

xforever love no she should not have gotten pregnant murdering the child is just as bad as what she has done

@Hellooooooohiiiii

6 жыл бұрын

april, its not murdering the child, its discarding the fetus, "she should have not gotten pregnant" it takes two to tango so...

I wonder how this little girl is doing today.. I hope she's found peace within her mind and she's doing well with a loving family.

@HopefulInterventions

5 жыл бұрын

I do wonder as well. These people just didn’t want to deal with this poor child anymore.

@sonofhibbs4425

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder, had she have been their biological daughter, would they have done the same thing?

@hellynnwheels6819

5 жыл бұрын

She was born with FAS. She won’t find peace in her mind. FAS is the only form of PREVENTIBLE brain retardation. The brain does not grow, and no amount of treatment after they are born will cause her brain to grow.

@liyanibernier5720

5 жыл бұрын

Son Of Hibbs no because that’s your blood plus they didn’t know from the start so anyone would want to send back a mentally sick child nobody will want to look after a kid who’s disturbed and harmful to others it’s risky she can easily kill other vulnerable people she is brian damages there is no hope for that child 🤟🏻

@sparklebutt1119

5 жыл бұрын

Son Of Hibbs The adoptive mother wouldn’t have drank alcohol during the pregnancy so your comment makes no sense.

This story is light years beyond heartbreaking! I cannot begin to imagine the agony that Ellie’s adoptive parents must be enduring right now. I also cannot imagine how Ellie’s birth mother ever finds the temerity to even look at herself in the mirror.

I knew a guy like this kid, except he was older. He was adopted also. But his mind was so messed up that he did not care about anyone or anything except himself. He had NO conscience whatsoever. One difference was that he was not suicidal. I knew the family, but he was VERY difficult to be around.

I'm disappointed in your choice for the title of this story. It is not accurate and biases the viewer against the parents who have been through so much.

What an awful, tragic situation to try and navigate. My heart goes out to this child in such a huge way. My mother abused drugs and alcohol through out her pregnancy with me, and I thank the Lord that there isn’t more wrong with me. Intellectually I am quite well off, but there are some hidden signs that what my mother did affected me. Not to mention the PTSD that growing up in a chronically stressful home caused. I will pray for this little girl..

That poor baby I hope she does okay and gets help and love from somebody ☹️

@jacquipan7579

5 жыл бұрын

She doesn't want it. Why 'poor baby'? She rejected what she had so she didn't want it. She is where she wants to be now. She was suicidal living in the family so they got rid of her. I think it is much more 'poor family' in cases like this!

@Donah

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacquipan7579 It's sad but true.

@suckitvv1287

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacquipan7579 "Poor baby" because she's a victim of her birth mother's decisions. "Poor baby" because although her brain may not register love the way ours does, her soul still requires it.

@jacquipan7579

5 жыл бұрын

@@suckitvv1287 If she is a poor baby it is because of her own decisions. If she wasn't such a bitch then maybe she would she would not been subject to the birth mother's decisions. Her soul does not require loving. She doesn't have a soul! The child is evil!

@funnyvidsandalilsinging7713

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacquipan7579 bull shit

I was born with FASD. My mother professed ignorance about the effects of alcohol on her unborn child - me. She used to sit at her kitchen table with her friend when I was little & smoke cigarettes & drink coffee & boast that she quit smoking & drinking during her first two pregnancies. I was # 3, so they did have an inkling in the early 60's, how dangerous alcohol is to the fetus. My mother tried to abort me by getting drunk & sitting in a hot bath. She made sure I knew this from very early in my childhood. The suicidal behavior of a very young child with this diagnosis is not unusual. The poor grades in school are not unusual. The rage is there, knowing someone didn't care enough about you to safeguard you during your most vulnerable time. My mother even spiked my baby bottle with alcohol to make me sleep. I think they kept me because I was the youngest, & unable to fight back. My dad would never have given me away, but I'm not certain about my mother.

I knew a couple that adopted a toddler with FASD. At 4 years, the child entered his patents room with a knife. This is a heart wrenching dilemma. They seem like intelligent people, and probably put a lot of thought into their decision.

I am supportive of people who know they’ll do a bad job, and address it quickly by releasing it to people who know they’ll do a good job

I can understand this, not only was it what’s best for Ellie if the mother is able to give her the 24/7 care she really does need, it’s also what’s best for the other children because it’s not fair for them to grow up in a home where they have to fear their sibling

@ITI-xi5zx

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, but it isn't an option for you to give your biological children up if they have a mental disability-- why is it an option if they are adopted? this was disgusting.

My youngest son, who my husband and I took in as a foster child when he was about four weeks old and later adopted, had fetal alcohol exposure. He also has learning disabilities, Aspergers and OCD. He was sick all the time, starting at about four months when he got his first ear infection. He didn't sleep well and was easily angered. He also made threats about killing himself starting around four years old. It was not easy to raise this kid but, thankfully, we all survived. He never got into drugs and alcohol or into any trouble with the law. He is now 32 and is a kind, loving and polite hard working man. So, there is hope. It takes a lot of dedication and hard work. Fortunately, he was our youngest child (and our other two children were much older) otherwise, we may have been faced with a similar decision as this family.

@roseofsharon1009

6 жыл бұрын

MsKraftee I think this child had something more going on than FAS.

@MsKraftee

6 жыл бұрын

starseoul 22 - it's possible as FAS often has comorbid conditions.

@BA-el2fu

5 жыл бұрын

MsKraftee I love it❤️❤️

Bottom line is Ellie clearly needed more attention and special help than they were able to provide. The other children and the parents life are not in danger because of Ellie which should be number one. Think of it like this, if a train was coming down a track and someone was tied to it and you had the option to pull the lever and save that person but the other tracks where to five other people would you pull the lever? Ellie is a danger and without proper care she could be a danger to society.

@angeliitaperez4086

6 жыл бұрын

Bebe27790 completely agree.

@staringanime

6 жыл бұрын

If that was the case then they shouldn't have waited all these years to get her the help and attention she needed. She is a human being not a misbehaving puppy.

@joshyua5273

6 жыл бұрын

They gave her proper care

@onixxfilth

6 жыл бұрын

Joyce Jackson True, but they even said in the video they did work with therapists. They could not be there for her 24/7. If something is beyond your ability to care, isn't it more unselfish to give her up to someone who could provide that level of care?

@diane7912

6 жыл бұрын

depends on who those peeps are, mine or yours.

I researched the adoptive family, learned the mom wrote a book (which I was able to read a majority of it without paying a dime) and the guardians that took Ellie wished to not have any comments regarding the child as they were concerned about her privacy but the adoptive mom still chose to add that the guardian mom couldn’t “kiss it better” either and Ellie is still violent. She stated this, against the wishes of her guardians, to prove she wasn’t the only one who couldn’t help the child. I did take issue with this. She also hates opinions and “judgement” of others, even though it was the adoptive parents decision to do national tv interviews and to write a book. They had to be aware that the publicity would naturally come with scrutiny and opinions. I pray Ellie has found someone who love and support her, supply her with tools needed to heal and dedication and loyalty. Furthermore, when Ellie was placed with a new family, that family had to deal with abandonment issues on top of her mental illness.

so let me get this straight. They adopted a child then when it gets hard they dump her off?! They wouldn't have done that if she was biologically theirs!!!

I adopted my daughter who has fas. yes it's a challenge but no way would I give up on her

@AriannaSimien

4 жыл бұрын

Andrea Jackson no one is giving up on her. They did what was best for everyone despite all the emotions involved, and they still care about the child. However you can’t put other children in danger like that, so Ellie needed to be removed from the home.

@ladybug947

4 жыл бұрын

Arifunshine Xo words versus actions=!actions speak louder than words. Their actions- they gave her back, period. Of course they gave up on her - they gave her back, period no matter what fluffy words one uses that’s what they did, don’t adopt if you don’t understand a child is not returnable goods- next time go shopping at a store instead and leave adoption to those who are trustworthy

@reinal7896

4 жыл бұрын

ladybug You aren’t thinking logically. Parents have removed their actual biological children from the home - due to issues. It’s sad but it happens. When your kids are in danger of a sibling, parents often remove that dangerous sibling from the home.

@m_j7955

4 жыл бұрын

ladybug yes they did, but only because they knew they couldn't give her what she needs. They said needed constant supervision, they couldn't give that to her, they have two other kids. So yes they gave her up, but to have a better chance at life.

@HopefulInterventions

4 жыл бұрын

Arifunshine Xo but they did give up on her. These people signed away their rights!!

A child who has been separated from their original family is bound to be traumatised and have serious rage. An issue is giving up on child you swore you would love.

Don't judge these parents, If you don't understand FAS and what familys can possibly deal with on a day to day basis. Some kids with FAS AREN'T out of control but some have some serious issues to deal with. when a child becomes a danger to other kids in the home, something needs to be done. The parents seemed to try for years. But as kids get older they get stronger and more violent. It's not fair for everyone in the house to be in fear. The child needs a group hone setting. This would be a difficult decision for me to make, but if my family is suffering and the child is suffering, sometimes u have to make decisions that the rest of the world will judge u for. I use to work in a group hone and took care of someone who had FAS. extremely difficult.

@denisenoles3159

6 жыл бұрын

Jessica Jasinski Indeed. So easy for people to judge because they have not experienced this. Why would they put their other children and themselves at-risk?

@tinahuttner7280

6 жыл бұрын

Jessica Jasinski so agree, feel like a lot of these comments are being made by young people so its a lot of arrogents.

@tinahuttner7280

6 жыл бұрын

They don't get Ellie is being PHYSICALLY ABUSIVE.ALOT OF UNEDUCATED COMMENTS.

@haileyparsons3844

6 жыл бұрын

ann l how is he being physically abusive, All she did from what I heard was she kicked and punch, she didn’t chase them with a knife, choke them, nor did she scream at them saying I’m going to kill you. Nope she was definitely depressed, and would try killing herself, but to me it didn’t seem like she was abusive.

@nono-bj5cm

6 жыл бұрын

booo boooo boooo

Why the F do they protect the identity of their own children, but not of the adopted child?

You adopted her, that means she's your child. That means you have to make sure that she gets the care that she needs. And you don't abandon her, she's still your daughter. That's what you signed up for everything. That comes along with raising a child the matter what problems they have

This poor family! What a tough decision. My heart truly goes out to them both

@votecurtistheguineapigforp9603

6 жыл бұрын

Nola Girl oh yeah.. and now had that adoption agency or somewhere in that pipeline been honest and giving these people a choice a well-informed choice they may have taken that on and maybe would have got the right treatment right away and could have made a huge difference

@catherinealpi323

6 жыл бұрын

Nola Girl a huniuja

@amandacollins1888

6 жыл бұрын

Wow. I wouldn’t never have givin her up - sad

@kymberlyp4056

6 жыл бұрын

Amanda Collins ~ It doesn't sound like they are "giving up on her" to me. I'm a Social Worker and see a couple looking out for her wellbeing and family safety. It's only been 3 months and they appear to be in contact with her foster placement.

@rachaelnelson3702

6 жыл бұрын

No excuse that’s a form of Autism spectrum disorder too which Dr’s likely missed out on telling the couple too her Dr’s missed our that she likely has Autism

We as society in general need to put far more money and resources into diagnosing and treatment in children in general and mental illness in general. Nearly every doctor gives a different diagnosis and different treatment. They need specific treatment for the correct diagnosis as the wrong one can lead to more problems and medications affect brain chemistry, especially in a developing brain.

@elliegoldie5902

6 жыл бұрын

macky macky I'm seeing alot of the comment White Trash on you tube,if we did that to black people we would be in trouble,the comment was racist and there is no need to call us white trash,,

@suesheification

6 жыл бұрын

We need to put money into preventing incompetent people from procreating.

@suesheification

6 жыл бұрын

Ellie Goldie idiots of any color shouldn't procreate

I'm sorry, but it isn't an option for you to give your biological children up if they have a mental disability-- why is it an option if they are adopted? this was disgusting.

I will never forget the nite i saw a 9 month pregnant woman stumbling around , so high on drugs and/ or alcohol she couldnt even stand up, didnt even know she was in a convenience store. All i could think of was that baby inside of her, what it was doing to the child. I saw this 30 years ago.

They sacrificed this beautiful girl for their own selfish needs.

@jaquelinegarcia119

6 жыл бұрын

Sunny Quackers ..how? She was putting the other children and herself in danger. They couldn't look after her 24/7 so they put her with people who could give her the proper care she would need.

@brookierex4223

5 жыл бұрын

How is that selfish? They made a wise decision. They weren't prepared to take care of a child who had medical issues they didn't know about. How can you blame them for that? Keeping the child for themselves and not knowing what to do; putting the entire family in danger would have been selfish.

@jaquelinegarcia119

5 жыл бұрын

chibi hungary i would if i had the proper time to do so.

I remember hearing about a case like this. There was a girl named Evelyn who hated "love" and touching, and was always filled with a rage. She destroyed everything in her path until her parents had to send her away. Like these comments, they were heavily criticized.

I have an adoptive child (now 24 years old) who has Attachment problem disorder at a severe level. No love can't cure them. Their needs are beyond what 'simple' parents can give even with all the good intentions, love and help. We never gave him back to the adoption circuit but our family paid the price (mentally, financially, emotionnaly, and on so much more levels. We gave it all but nothing changed. He didn't heel and got even worse. He to did false accusations in his education system (principal, teachers, educators, us, his parents. After years and years of trying to help him and nothing changes, I understand their choice of saving the rest of the family (sibblings, parents). I think they did the right thing. Alot of them act and a better way in institutions because love is not treatning them like in a family. Some can't bear to fell love. If the feel it, they do something bad to break the weight of love. People who haven't been threw this situation should not judge.

My heart goes out to them. This child could have destroyed their marriage, their peaceful life of their other children. They made the best decision they could make due to the circumstances.

Bless that little girls heart.

@Redeemed_30

5 жыл бұрын

Jaydee Lady I hate this expression. It is so stupid. What does it even mean? It's a Southern thing.

My heart just breaks for Ellie.

you all are unbelievable!!! this little girl is 7 years old!!! imagine how she is feeling. this is her family. her mommy and daddy

I’m sorry, as a person that was adopted. With severe dyslexia, severe short-term memory loss, ADHD, and disassociation disorder with anger issues. I feared so much that my parents would give me up. I was a nightmare they had a wrap me up in a blanket sometimes to calm me down. Hitting my self and others. There support and love and dedication. Allowed me to succeed in my life and now I’m leading a successful life. And these people just gave up! I’m Literally in tears and now I’m going to call my mother and dad to thank them for sticking with me. I can’t see there side at all.

@braxma12

Жыл бұрын

You didn't learn anything from your experience, especially boundaries and limits. You think love can solve any kind of hurt. You think if they tried harder, they would definitely succeed. Knowing what happened, I can tell you that in this particular case it is very naïve, childlike thinking. You can absolutely say with the same success, that if you pedal faster and better a bicycle, you can reach mount Everest summit. You also seem to care for people and families who got affected by this girl violence and the whole family struggled with with severe PTSD afterwards. You don't care for the consequences that other people face by making a sacrifice. Sounds like you never got really better of you think somebody has to go to those lengths to help a child that literally missing parts of the brain due to FASD.

@james_daniels

Жыл бұрын

@@braxma12 why do you say that this person learned nothing? It sounds like they have come a long way in their journey with their issues.

@braxma12

Жыл бұрын

@@james_daniels because he thinks that paying for his issues is par for the course. Because if he had issues, it is someone's else's responsibility to fix it

@james_daniels

Жыл бұрын

@@braxma12 so you’re saying he didn’t take responsibility for himself and his own actions and issues and fix them himself?

I Know the family that has Adopted Ellie and she is a Beautiful young woman that is NOT dealing with problems associated with Bi-polar or Fetal alcohol Syndrome. It is from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and Reactive Attachment Disorder or RAD. ALL FROM HER PREVIOUS FAMILY (Gertz). So when you read Lori's book and you read all the hyped up stories just to sell more books and profit more off of Ellie. It is mostly exaggerated Garbage. Ellie has not received a penny of the proceeds from the book, that's why Lori changed her name in the book to Emily. Her Family hasn't even received a complimentary book. I just wanted all the people who have commented that I have read the book and this is not the Girl that I know. Thank you

@melidoe452

7 жыл бұрын

Don Rothrock Thank you for this I for sure will not buy that book

@VintageRose75

7 жыл бұрын

Don Rothrock How do you know her?

@mirzamay

7 жыл бұрын

I thought as much! I've learned to see and smell bullshit coming, and this story just reaked of it. I'm very very glad to hear she is doing better now. Pathetic the way these people had to demonize Ellie for problems they caused , and try to pardon themselves from their sins by tricking the public into siding with them. I've seen it before. Morally bereft. And the real birth mother probably pining for her child all these years, stolen away by protective services to be abused by fake parents. Well bravo to her new parents, and may her future go well.

@Lisa.G.

7 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, this is horrible, I did believe they were exaggerating when she said the child at 2 or 3 was trying to maliciously throw her down the stairs. They made it sound like Ellie was in care to try to help her, now finding out she was adopted by someone else (believing this comments true) and she's doing very well, makes these people look awful!! Also writing a book, profiting off a child they gave away, over dramatizing the story, is pretty damn disgusting!! But I don't believe for a minute, her birth woman, is a victim!! She drank & did drugs while pregnant, she's ultimately the reason Ellie has been put in this position. The only one my heart goes out to is Ellie, and the good family she finally has!!

@katindahat7927

7 жыл бұрын

Don Rothrock thanks for the update makes sense to me ...money was it from the jump

Is it true that the dad committed suicide after being caught trying to meet a 14 y/o boy?

@tubbsfarquhar4645

Жыл бұрын

Yes. He was caught by People Vs Pred

@thetruepatriot7733

Жыл бұрын

@@tubbsfarquhar4645 oh wow! I knew something was wrong with these people. What's his name?

@tubbsfarquhar4645

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruepatriot7733 Craig Gertz

@thetruepatriot7733

Жыл бұрын

@@tubbsfarquhar4645 thanks, I looked him up. The story is correct, he died by suicide after being caught meeting a boy for s3x... I knew something was wrong with these people. You don't just return children after you adopt them!!

Ridiculous to just "let a child go" there are so many other options rather than abandoning your child .

They should be charged with abandonment. They made a commitment to that child.

This is heartbreaking. I don't blame the parents for giving her up. I hope that the biological mother is happy with what she's done, and how she has ruined this little girls life. Oh, that's right, she probably has no knowledge of this little girl, and how what she did has impacted her, and everybody else around her.

My heart breaks for the whole family. I also adopted a FASD child . Life was always a struggle for all of us. It is a horrible burden for the child to be stuck with a disorder that was no fault of their own and they they get judged for and have to live with the rest of their lives. The parents have to protect the children who are too small to protect themselves. May God bless them all.

wen u love someone unconditionally u stand by them no matter wat 🙄

@DybbukDEpstein

3 жыл бұрын

BuIIshit. You don't allow a demon who endangers the lives of your other children stay with them in the same house. What kind of love does that show the other children that you don't care enough about them to do everything you can to protect them? Sorry, but it takes a special kind of person to deal with a child like this. If we only allow people who are gifted with the ability to cope with such a situation, you would reduce the pool of families by 99%. What about their two normal kids? They don't deserve to be loved unconditionally and kept safe from the psycho they are being forced to live with?

Such a sad story! What a difficult decision those parents had to make! That poor child,she is suffering now because of her birth mother. I hope that this little girl gets all the help she needs and eventually can return to her adoptive parents who obviously love her!

Does anybody have any new information about this family ? I would love to know how Elle is doing in 2017

@trickshott1116

6 жыл бұрын

Ugly bitch

@marianamartinez1737

6 жыл бұрын

Hopefully she got the help she needed

@crystalwalters1780

6 жыл бұрын

TRÎCK ŚHOTT And your problem is? Like actually get a life🙄

@crystalwalters1780

6 жыл бұрын

TRÎCK ŚHOTT good for you. Taking old jokes and making them bad. Great job👍 I guess that's what people with sad, sad lives do now a day.

@Fleurbunny

6 жыл бұрын

TRÎCK ŚHOTT coming from the person with no profile pic...what horrors are you hiding?? Trolling for the hell of it, find something useful to do with your time.

The first problem is that you all continue to separate alcohol from the drug category. STOP saying "drugs AND alcohol"...say "drugs, including alcohol"!!

Having worked with pregnant women that were in recovery & their babies I will tell you that alcohol is the WORST drug in the world. Like the mom said...It pickles the brain. Children born of women on heroine, crack, meth, etc. had some issues, but nothing that could not be worked on with therapy & parenting classes. I worked w/ two babies / toddlers that had fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) & they had so many problems. The family that gave up the girl did the best for that child & realized their limitations.

I would of done the same thing! They tried!

@juliagooglia374

5 жыл бұрын

MultiValerie21 then you don’t need to be adopting a child!

@catmeres3719

5 жыл бұрын

They didn’t try hard enough,, they gave her up before trying therapy, medication, hospitalization. They didn’t love her, parents that love their children love them unconditionally and could never give them up like this. I have no sympathy for this family

@jacquipan7579

5 жыл бұрын

@@catmeres3719She was a violent liar and did not deserve for the family to try what you suggest. If she was going to behave like that, she dies not deserve a family. There are children who deserve a loving family and don't have one then this little brat has one and treats it like thisò

@jacquipan7579

5 жыл бұрын

@@catmeres3719 I have children who are not violent liars. That is not mental illness. It is an awful child!

@thebest-yt5px

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you they have to protect the other kids she could hurt the other toddler

Imagine being 7 and having the only parents you ever knew just give you away

@el.6627

5 жыл бұрын

Katie Morgan that hit home

They don't speak about her like a child they've had since a baby...

@rebeccagirma6775

6 жыл бұрын

P YanC I was think my the same thing.

@blobbyblob2573

6 жыл бұрын

P YanC oh well

@eslandagooderamos4930

6 жыл бұрын

To.P.Y.C. Think - these are the parents, who courageously delt with all difficult issues when a child was a baby, a toddler. Just trying and doing the best they could, openly, using all the medical sources. Hoping, staying calm, loving. Nothing seemed to work. And worse - they had to face the girl's worsening condition and the specialists' diagnosis and prognosis. Being responsible parents of their other children they had to come to the only right decision. Don't judge them. They've done for the girl's development and well-being the maximum possible. They deserve to be unburdened. Sad. Her biological mother will burn in hell. And, since you can't lock the child in cage, they and the society will live in constant fear for her life, and lives of others around her. And if she lives to a certain age to chooses to buy a gun..... Remember Florida, and other school shootings... Florida killer was a teenager, was known and even reported as aggressive and threatening. But he was able to purchase multiple guns, LEGALLY. This girl might be the first female who...

@goddessmelanisia

6 жыл бұрын

Bonding goes both ways. You can't bond with a child that can't bond with you.

@blueblaze332

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think the whole thing was staged.

This poor little girl is 19 now...I can't believe these people went on national television about this. If ABC had any heart they'd remove this video.

My problem is with this segment/interview. Why is the family made out to be the victims? And why did they feel the need to share such private medical info that really isn't theirs to share? Something feels off about this.

@zainzachass

6 жыл бұрын

Kara A agreed!! Don’t trust this family.. way too fake and holding hands as if they are having issues.. they legally have stuffed up this kids future I hope if they did anything bad they will get wat comes to them

@karaa7595

6 жыл бұрын

Squall it's obvious they are upset how things turned out and basically want to divorce this child. People should just know there's a 99.9% chance an adopted child with this kind of past will have issues at some point.

@prettypaperthings

6 жыл бұрын

Kara A "99.9% chance." Yeah right where do you get your facts from

@Stig007

6 жыл бұрын

Because it cost money to adopt a child and more money to take care of a child properly since we don't know the actual Financial stability of this family we can assume that they're just a little bit higher than average so their thought process was that they were adopting a child that came from a good medical background. That wouldn't require an extreme amount of medical or psychological care. Not sure why or how they got media attention but there's always going to be people like you or like others in the comments else that call this family off , evil, shity, or lazy. So yeah they had to provide a defense and their defense was that the mother's medical records were falsified the baby came from a medical background that this family could not afford or was equipped to handle. So should this family have kept this child let her actions and stories tear them apart and dropped every last dime they had on her plunge the family into poverty so they can be a welfare family or give up the child weather it be for selfish or genuine reasons to a family that could handle such a child .

@karaa7595

6 жыл бұрын

Stig Cruise you're not understanding my point. I have no problem with them getting help. I have a problem with how they are dragging this little girls private life out in front of the world and having their biological daughter be interviewed to confirm how scared she is of her adopted sister. And btw, parents find themselves faced with all types of problems with their bio kids, that they didn't plan for. And they don't do this because they can't do it. And parents who adopt (especially from other countries) shouldn't be so naive and foolish as to believe that they won't be lied to or that the expert who reviewed the child didn't make erroneous judgements when evaluating the child. So, If you're not willing to take on a child AS YOUR OWN and treat them AS YOUR OWN, then don't bother adopting because the LAST THING a child needs is ONE MORE parental figure ditching them/betraying them. There was a better way to handle this - IN PRIVATE or at least with more compassion.

Wow. All the comments about who is to blame don't even matter in the end. I am adopted. I can't even imagine.... A little discipline goes a long way. In the end, I hope and pray that being given up for adoption, then given up from adoption plus God knows what else happens to her between now and then to add to all of this - doesn't define for her who she is for the rest of her life. That's what matters in all of it. Her. The little girl. I just think all of the comments about who is to blame are silly. All of the "adults" involved are to blame. One thing is certain, the little girl is not. How sad.

Looks like this was in 2010. As its 2019 now I wonder 9 years later how little Ellie (well now grown Ellie) is doing? Anyone happen to know of any updates?

Since being pregnant I drank twice (once was just a sip and the other time was 2 mixed drinks) and I feel extremely guilty about that and it was before I even knew I was pregnant (I found out at 6 weeks so obviously very early in pregnancy) I don't get how someone purposely causes their unborn child harm

So sad.. I just don't feel I could give up someone I love forever?