Memnon never gets the love he deserves.

@Worm739

Жыл бұрын

There was a guy name Memnom at my high school, he was a bit older, so I’m not totally sure on the spelling, but now that I know more a about the Trojan war, I think that’s pretty cool

@lordmicrowave768

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

@@Worm739 Interesting, was he Greek or African or something?

@davexorus9836

Жыл бұрын

@@thalmoragent9344 by legend Aethiophian

@idigchickflicks8730

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood just wrote him out of Troy

It's SO good to finally see Memnon in western media, let alone such a high quality channel. Beautiful art and great narration!

@goosnavslakovic4908

Жыл бұрын

It's so weird to me. Even the Netflix series would rather rewrite Achilles as a gay black man before adding an actual Iliad African hero who was second only to Achilles in combat.

@BlackDog97

Жыл бұрын

@@goosnavslakovic4908 exactly! It's crazy to think about it. Memnon was a demigod and equally skilled to Achilles himself, top tier character just keeps getting ignored by Media.

@lefaaddenes7650

11 ай бұрын

Patience is key not rush perfection

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

​@@lefaaddenes7650they might do today with All this woke hollywood. But In Hellenic mythology and culture from where Memnon originates from. He is NOT described or depicted being a Nubian Sub Saharan African character. Plus the Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with Africa.

When Achilles and Memnon began fighting I legit had chills running across my back

@jarongreen5480

Жыл бұрын

Me too! Such an epic clash.

Thank you for the hype you gave to Memnon. One of the most underrated figures in the Trojan War. You showed him as a brave and strong warrior, who even earned Achilles respect I bet Achilles would have been honoured if had died by his hand

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, would've been a more honorable death than at the hands of the Cowardly Paris. Achilles would've preferred this instead

Truly magnificent video I remember I learned about MENMON not too long ago as a black man who happens to be obsessed with Greek mythology particularly Trojan War it was fascinating when I read about Memnon a Ethiopian King with the strength skill and armor to even Rival the mighty Achilles I see this character growing more and more popular every day I hope eventually we get to see him on the live screen

@bill884

10 ай бұрын

naaah my friend, they will never put him on the big screen, you got just black Achilles from Netflix hahaha

@davidneal3889

10 ай бұрын

@bill884 lol true

This is the first and best tale of an African warrior I mean he almost killed Achilles he earned my respect

When you think about it, Achilles probably would have preferred to have been killed by Memnon rather than the way he actually got taken out...

@LoganDX1990

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he definitely would have loved to have a warriors death in battle by a fellow warrior who not only pushed him to the limit, but to actually wound him, as well.

The mere existence of a great character like Memnon makes the black Achilles of the Netflix series even more ridiculous. Why did you change the ethnicity of a mythical hero like Achilles to look "inclusive", when there is already a great character from that ethnic group? 🤦

@chanchan6380

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm just pandering and lazy Hollywood.

@saharasafari9

Жыл бұрын

@@EudaimonV can’t Eos change her appearance though? Gods and goddesses just take the form of whatever they see fit so it’s possible she could’ve just took the form of a native Ethiopian woman

@stephendirusso2701

Жыл бұрын

​@@EudaimonV these days yes but during those time 99% where you came from matches how you look

@stephendirusso2701

Жыл бұрын

@@EudaimonV I have a copy of the Iliad in Greek from 1700 he describe as being dark skined

@PerceptionVsReality333

Жыл бұрын

@@EudaimonV Also Africa was named after a Roman man his last name was Africanus or something like that.

For decades that I knew this story, only today that I learned that there was this Memnon character

am so happy you guys covered Memnon, with out a doubt he was Achilles biggest win

@emperorrasheed4177

Жыл бұрын

Secondly only to Hector and that’s a maybe

@George-Hawthorne

5 ай бұрын

@@emperorrasheed4177 I'd say Hector is third, behind Memnon and Cycnus.

@augustus4832

2 күн бұрын

Memnon may had been a demigod, but Hector was his key win.

Memnon was one of the greatest kings of the old world. He loved the golden era he saw fall before his eyes

This Series is so Awesome! I'm going to be Sad when it ends! Especially when Achilles dies.

@verke00

Жыл бұрын

Spoilers!

@davexorus9836

Жыл бұрын

@@verke00 haha is there anyone who doesn't know 😄

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

@@davexorus9836 Yeah, this is pretty much just common knowledge at this point. Even basic history classes will teach this at least once a year

I've never heard of a warrior that can stand up against Achilles he asked my respects

@Facelessbuster

Жыл бұрын

Lol Hector did

@durrangodsgrief6503

Жыл бұрын

@@Facelessbuster no he ran until the gods forced him to stop and was heavily outmatched against achilles memnon was his near equal

I’m rly glad Memnon finally got the recognition he deserved. Easily Achilles best fight

@raisasomaraki3870

Жыл бұрын

and almost fatal 👌🏽

That's great, this is the first time I had the opportunity to watch a depiction of this mighty battle. Usually Memnon is not even mentioned about the Trojan war. I hope that the battle against prince Eurypylus and the Keteioi (a.k.a. the Hittites) will be also shown after introducing Neoptolemus.

I love how much help the Trojans had. And They STILL LOST

@michaeldepinto3562

Жыл бұрын

Really does, feel like everyone came to their aid lol and Achilles killed them all but Aeneas.

@storm1328

Жыл бұрын

Lol because Achilles had hacks hesoyam

@George-Hawthorne

Жыл бұрын

Even the greatest Trojan warriors is no match for Greek plot armour.

@wankawanka3053

Жыл бұрын

Play smarter not harder

@George-Hawthorne

Жыл бұрын

It didn't help that these Trojan Champions keep coming in one at a time. Imagine if this 'help' has come at the start.

Will there be a video talking about what happened to everyone after the war?

@gorvarhadgarson5227

Жыл бұрын

We need the Aenead and the Odyssey.

@billychops1280

Жыл бұрын

Also Diomedes story should be covered

@ecurewitz

Жыл бұрын

I can only assume there will be that very long journey back to Ithaca

@shaafi1579

Жыл бұрын

Rome

i hope right after this series finishes you follow up with odysseus his story. these 2 things need to become a series not gonna lie

this is got to be Achilles' toughest opponent. even hector doesn't last too long

Memnon's mother ended up causing his death when she tried to help him, this has a huge load of irony and tragedy.

Although Memnon proved himself to be a formidable warrior he faced one of Greek histories greatest champions. That alone is evidence enough that his battle would not be so easy.

Nice to see a mention and depiction of Memnon, thanks again for this great series showcase on the Trojan War. I only wish Memnon was on the Greek side but hey, can't have all the cool dudes only on one side I suppose. 😅

Thank you so much! Always wanted to see memnon get hid just deserts as truly achilles only rival. Well done! Beautiful art of both memnon and the great achilles.

This series is awesome....specially after seeing such strong heroes from different parts of world❤

So aside from Hector this is one of the best duels of Achilles in the war.

Memnon done the impossible and Achilles respected him

The African Prince, Memnon was left out of the Troy 2004 movie. Probably cause since the story is a more then 3 thousand years old, some storytellers left him out just as other versions say the gods weren't part of the war; they just watch the whole thing and nothing else.

@stephendirusso2701

Жыл бұрын

2004 movie is an insult to Homer they barely followed the story

@stephendirusso2701

Жыл бұрын

@@EudaimonV some times you have to use term like African so the audience can follow the story. I'm a DarDanian if I tell most people that there like who what

@KingPyro123

Жыл бұрын

@blaise angel where are you getting your information from? He absolutely is an African hero, as the story does orignate from that contient, and to express that the character isnt black? The guy is literally described as ethiopian by homer. You can debate that as much as you want but the likely hood of mennon being black is so high.

@rxbitvzzinbvztin8730

Жыл бұрын

@@EudaimonV you just don't want a black hero within the epic cycle LOL 🤓🤓

@0rest1s7

Жыл бұрын

@@stephendirusso2701 I don't think it's an insult to Homer. It's way different but it's one of the greatest movies out there. Achilles and Hector have better personalities in the film than in the actual myth.

Thanks for the video

This is gonna be super fun can’t wait for this love it

I’m just speechless I’m just like keep the Trojan war coming it’s getting pretty good because the more I learn about the Trojan war the more I understand the story.

Well done!

Thank you for not erasing African people from Greek mythology because we existed there!

@Beloucif_Samuel

11 ай бұрын

if you are talking about Negros, they NEVER existed in Greek Mythology Memnon was, sadly, blackwashed.

@TomiAdewoleAdetom

9 ай бұрын

In truth, it's even deeper than this - the Greeks actually lifted the bulk of their mythology from Egyptian/Ethiopian pantheons. When one digs back as far as history currently allows, the forbears of the Greeks only had two deities that survive to the present day: Qos and an unnamed fish-goddess. The Greeks stole Zeus from Ammun-Ra, the primary deity of pre-Ptolemaic Egypt

Absolutely legendary.

Good job beautiful art history mythology 😍

The art is gorgeous. Props to the artist.

Awesome history

Memnon Is a Mighty Warrior ✊🏾⭐️

this story has got me hyped 🔥 🔥

Love these stories they always start my day right 💪👍💪

In the poem Zeus has a few mentions of being able to defy the Fates if he wishes, so him refusing to intervine probably hints to him simply not wanting to do so and looking foran excuse (it may also be due to it being multi-authored)

"My son can beat up your son!"

The fact that Ethiopia had a part in the Trojan war it's beautiful

If Memnon was there while Hector was alive things might’ve turned out differently for the Greeks

Finally!!

Name of the background music?

❤🤍💙 all your videos mate👍

What the song name when they start fighting

Can you do Snow White

I want the background music title

Please, could someone tell me what is the name of the background music? 😭

@kannansatheesh3075

Жыл бұрын

When all the kingdoms fall by edgar hopp

Ancient Greeks had different ideas to where Aethiopia was located: at the western and eastern parts of the world (Homer),somewhere in Africa (Hellenistic writers) or even Persia (Herodotus). In a way it was like mesopotamian idea of Dilmun,Magan and Meluha.They forgot where they originally were but the name continued to be used to other peoples and civilizations. A curious tale about Memnon is from Ctesias. He wrote that that Memnon was a vassal of the Assyrian empire and was sent to help Priam. Funny if you switch Assyrians with Hittites (who different from Assyria indead ruled all anatolia) it would fit perfectly. It was not the only occasion where greek writers confused civilizations :look at the story about Ninus of Assyria the "first world emperor" before the rise of Babylonia (who was Sargon of Akkad all but in name).

@tundakyat457

Ай бұрын

As may not have known, the Persians are descended from An Ethiopian woman Andromeda and the Egyptian Perseus. (from the clash of the Titans movies). So thats why they thought Ethiopia was in Persia. Also Ctesias was wrong. Memnon was never a Vassal of Assyrians as they did not exist then. Memnon was a nephew of Priam and first cousins of Hector and Paris. Thats why Memnon went to help the Trojans. Helen of Troy, was also a descendant of Andromeda and so was Hercules.

This is who they should have let the black guy in thr Troy series act as instead of Achilles. True to lore. Memnon was a chad and should have been given his dues.

And Hollywood left him out of the movie Troy. Sad very sad..

I'm curious, I've never seen a copy that has described a black person before and I would love to know which copy this part of the tale is pulled from. Does anyone know the source? I know there are different translations and I also know that many times certain aspects are omitted from stories in different regions and as time goes on, so I would really like to know which one has this.

@r.c.1881

Жыл бұрын

It's made up.

@criticalanon

Жыл бұрын

@@r.c.1881 its not made up, iliad its just one book of the epic cycle, memnon and penthesilea stories come from the aethiopis

@pyrix9569

Жыл бұрын

Search the epic poem "Aethiopis". It's mostly lost, some fragments of it survive and they tell the tale of Achilles fighting the Amazon queen Penthesilea and Memnon the Ethiopian.

@AlbertM170

Жыл бұрын

That's true. There were 9 works about the Trojan War. Of those, only the works of Homer (the Iliad and the Odyssey) survive intact. Everything else we know on the Trojan War we know from fragments or from summaries of the 7 lost epic poems. Well, you can also include the Aeneid, but it is usually not included in the epic cycle cause I guess it didn't exist yet when the epic cycle was established.

@Darthalas

Жыл бұрын

@@AlbertM170 thank you for educating me on this, this is not something that is widely discussed.

achilles did the SONIC BOOM lol

Bgm name

Yes, finally ! Memnon gets some recognition. Dude was awesome

@user-cn6qc6mt8p

6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately his depiction in this series, is Wrong. Memnon is NOT described nor depicted as a African Nubian character.

@user-cn6qc6mt8p

6 ай бұрын

Now you know. Glad I could help.

@agentofchaos7456

4 ай бұрын

@@user-cn6qc6mt8p Ancient Greek literally said he was a black man. Shut up.

@agentofchaos7456

4 ай бұрын

Ignore what that other poster said. He is a clown.

@user-cn6qc6mt8p

4 ай бұрын

@@agentofchaos7456 prove it. Tell me where exactly does ancient Hellenic says that Memnon is a Nubian African character??

Ive never heard of him in school and for other superhero code names

👑🔝

Netflix has their own Troy series but picked the cast roles wrongfully like a Afro-American cast who played Achilles instead of Memnon or any other African warriors. Like HBO Max Velma but for some unknown reason they left Fred untouch and worst of all, Afro Shaggy who was depicted as a stoner in past adaptations but swapping made it even more insensitive because its common for them to get arrested based on his roots

u know they had know Africans as goddesses in Greece are you Netflix?

Le combat contre Hector aurait dû être aussi détaillé

Aethiopica (Αἰθιοπικά in 'ancient' Greek,Αιθιοπικά in 'modern' Greek "Ethiopian History") or Theagenes and Cariclea, is a novel in ancient Greek divided into ten books and written by Heliodorus of Emesa ( hemesa hemsa Homs )(2nd or 4th century).The Aethiopica tells the story of an Ethiopian princess and a Thessalian prince who undergo a series of perils (battles, voyages, piracy, abductions, robbery, and torture) before their eventual happy marriage in the heroine’s homeland

Wait a second. If Memnon was son of Eos and Tithonus, brother of Priam. Does that mean that Tithonus was black or Eos?

@megabladechronicles962

Жыл бұрын

Oddly enough the Greeks may have believed that Ethiopians were white. That’s why Andromeda, the princess of Ethiopia is described has having skin like marble

@anthonywinslow1655

Жыл бұрын

All Greeks and Egyptian gods and agriculture can be traced back to Ethiopia. I don't know if this character was African or not. But I do know even Zeus is an African God, massively changed over by the Greeks. The early Greeks went to Egypt to learn from the Ethiopians that were there at the time, before being decimated By the Egypt that most people know today. Ethiopians where forced to move back further down to their other kingdoms. But all in all, this was a cool story, great animation. 👍🏿

@AA-bn7tf

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonywinslow1655 we wuz Egyptians. We wuz Olympians.

@summersong5876

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonywinslow1655 Have you heard Mr. Imhoteps channel? he is talking subjects like what you say.

@PerceptionVsReality333

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonywinslow1655 That is false.

They fought almost until the evenong. Memnon never knows about Achilles weakness. Yet like Achilles Memnon also almost immortal. Some said Acbilles finally strangled Memnon to his death just like he did with Cygnus. Seeing his falls Aeneas fled and emter the Trojan walls

@alexrahardjazh

Жыл бұрын

Priam biggest mistake in this war is 1 Too rely on Hector 2. Not ask Penthesilae and Memnon to come at the same time. Had both of them came and Hector were still alive, Troy would be victorious. 3. The biggest woe of all is he was not return Helen back to Acheans long before the war ever started. Like Hector suggested him to do. Should Astyanax grrew to adulthood he shall surpassed Hector in both personal combats and art of war.

@George-Hawthorne

3 ай бұрын

Memnon wasn't immortal and Achilles didn't strangle Memnon he got him through the heart. They were both equal in skill and equipment but Achilles' dip in the Styx gave him the edge.

Epic fight!

After all his victories, Achilles is killed by Paris. I wonder if Thetys would have preferred a hero's death, in hindsight

Who was the better fighter Memnon or hector?

@valentinivanov7825

Жыл бұрын

Judging by the fact that Memnon faced Achilles head on while Hector initially tried to run and the Ethiopian actually was able to wound Achilles i say Memnon is better.

Everyone who heard of tht coming clash between demigods assumed Achilles would end the fight early because of his famed fighting prowess . However Zeus favored both Memnon and Achilles so he decided to take away their godly abilities and make them to mortals fighting . Achillies got the best of memnon and Zeus mourned his death . Look that up

wow

I'm starting a petition.. renaming WW1 too WW2 because obviously the history of the trojan war shows it as the first world war.

Funny how Hollywood always neglected Memnon

Wonder what would have been the outcome of Achilles and Rustam of Persia's battle.

Nice!!!!!! Perfect timing!

I think Memnon’s mom is the reason he lost the fight. You’re going to be more protective of a weakness and therefore you have counters in place for that weakness and in a way expect it. Its almost like bait in a way. If he went for a wound anywhere else I think he would’ve won.

Was Hector already dead when this battle happened?

@michaeldepinto3562

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@eelchiong6709

Жыл бұрын

Dead, burned, & scattered in the wind.

I am just learning the whole story about Memnon..

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately this is does a mistake by referring to him as a African prince and depicting him as a Nubian warrior.

Hope the art stays humanly drawn like this and not AI

Epic

And I guess that concludeds the punt empire

Things that never happened for $50.

I didnt know this.intresting👍👍

I saw that abomination of a Netflix show, and despite all half the characters being black, they literally didn’t even have that one character. I’m not joking. They have Amazon women, but they never had that other character. Memnon should’ve been in there. They just literally didn’t add him. since they were all about diversity equality and stuff they could’ve just added him in there. But no, they didn’t. I found that absolutely disgusting. That character deserved better he fought for the Trojans. He was there reinforcement along with the rest of his army from Ethiopia. Interestingly enough character was actually like Achilles equally matched not to mention they both had mothers that were both goddesses. Their fathers were mortal.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

Ай бұрын

Well the thing is that neither Memnon is described believed or depicted as a black Nubian African character in Hellenic mythology. IN the original Hellenic source Memnon and the Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia in Hellenic mythology have nothing to do with Africa. The idea of him being African comes from the Romans that believed he hailed from Africa.

Wasn't memnon in the scorpion king movie

@user-hq3yv3hy7j

7 ай бұрын

Nope Memnon from the scorpion king is a fantasy character. Memnon from the Trojan war is a Hellenic Mythological character.

Son of Aurora or Son of Eos ?

@Beloucif_Samuel

11 ай бұрын

son of Eos and Tithonus

@PeerlessUtopian

11 ай бұрын

@@Beloucif_Samuel Thank you. I just checked on google that Aurora is the Roman version of Eos.

Alright Black Panther I see you 👀

This version isn't as epic as the one where everyone was so awe in of the battle between Memnon & Achilles that both armies stopped fighting, and Zeus turns them into giants so everyone, including the gods, could sit and watch the two master warriors clash

The battle between two gigachads.

@ajithsidhu7183

Жыл бұрын

The 3rd battle of gigachads

@supermavro6072

Жыл бұрын

It was battle between Illyrians and ancient Greeks

PIP Antilochus

Ohhh Great Memnon😌😍

Memnon must be from punt the eygptian kingdom idk just a guess

@gkiodinakachukwu631

Жыл бұрын

He’s clearly Ethiopian. It’s even stated in the story

Memnon looks like Michael B. Jordan's Kilmonger

How is it possible Memnon hit his hand? He was bathed in that sacred water by his mother, all of his body except the heel.

@ecurewitz

Жыл бұрын

That was not a fatal wound

@George-Hawthorne

Жыл бұрын

The river Styx made him invincible not invulnerable. Memnon wasn't the first to wound Achilles either. Asteropaios was also able to wound Achilles.

@YamiKaiba

Жыл бұрын

Because he had divinity too I believe

@pathfinder5288

Жыл бұрын

In Iliad mentions the Achilles was wounded in the elbow by a son of a river-god. About weak point in heel, it's from romans.

Hey Disney why isnt this a movie?

yeh memnon was the third best Warrior at Troy, Achilles, Hector and then Memnon

Even the god's came with their UFOs to watch the fight. It is a very important and auspicious occasion for human history. Sad thing Hollywood left him out of the movie. I was actually shocked. From a historic point...it is a shame yeah it's only a movie.

In trying to help a perfectly capable black man, they ended up destroying him. I’ve seen this somewhere.

memnon was a king of Aethiopia, not a prince.

@user-hq3yv3hy7j

7 ай бұрын

Yes King of the Aethiopis people. But also a Prince of Troy. One thing is for sure. Memnon is NOT described or depicted being a Nubian Sub Saharan African character in Hellenic mythology. Plus the Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with Africa.

Woah

2:23 Memnon Macedonia now