You should revisit this video based on the report we got this week about the AMOC collapsing sooner rather than later

@jrersinghaus

2 ай бұрын

it was just moved up again in the paper titled "machine learning prediction of tipping and collapse of the atlantic meridional overturning circulation"

@Nehner

2 ай бұрын

There was not a single collapsing AMOC INTHE LAST 13999 YEARS.

@reuireuiop0

2 күн бұрын

​@@Nehner... Which doesn't say nothing zero zilch about next year or the rest of century. Come back and check in 01-01-2100 if yer still right, or frozen solid if you don't

@Nehner

21 сағат бұрын

@@reuireuiop0 go write your age education study degrees businessexperience or shut up

This triggered a memory of a snot nosed kid version of myself raising my hand to ask one of my favorite primary school science teachers; is it possible that ocean currents and temperatures could affect the flow of magma beneath the ocean floor like they do with the weather and winds, causing earthquakes and volcanic eruptions? My amazing science teacher looked like she was getting teary eyed. Looking back, it probably made her day.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

Most likely teary eyed because she doubled as an English teacher and you didn't know the difference between "effect" and "affect". Or perhaps you sang your question and she was a music lover.

@marianneb.7112

Жыл бұрын

@@grindupBaker That was unnecessary.

@marianneb.7112

Жыл бұрын

Cool question, especially for a young kid!

@AClarke2007

Жыл бұрын

More Salt, less density.

@cd4683

Жыл бұрын

@@grindupBaker like knowing you're shit vs knowing your shit.i guess. You know?

That has always frightened me upon learning about this in the late 80’s in my geo-studies. The other big scare was learning about how much methane, and the potential of release with more warming of the arctic tundra.

@olivialim7541

9 ай бұрын

The Nordstream pipeline blow up and the fragmentation of plastics is also a big source of methane

@kayhansen9229

8 ай бұрын

We need the aliens technology and we need them to tell us what we need to do we need their help, maybe this is why they're trying to force disclosure. I don't know but I do know that it's all true what they're saying about the aliens and the secret space program. Because of 1969 when I was only eleven years old and living in Roseville California I would see them anti-gravity craft come up every night on maneuvers look like they were training for something they were very organized I wasn't the only one who saw them in my neighborhood they were very high up though like satellites but it was definitely anti-gravity craft that could travel several thousand miles per hour and as I watched them for four whole years and they had two nights off per week they increased from thirty-five to forty up at the same time I kid you not I'm dead serious. I have never forgotten what I saw those many years ago then my father took a transfer to Houston and I have never seen any in Houston but I have heard others say they have seen them seeing is believing.

@retiefgregorovich810

6 ай бұрын

Should have been around in the 70's, when I was worried because scientists were worried about the upcoming ice age, which didn't happen.

@GIBKEL

6 ай бұрын

@@retiefgregorovich810 well, I also remember that prediction but the methane makes co2 look like a child’s Chemical playset. Regardless, we’re all in for a ride and consequences. If what you see as normal in your 50-60+ years, then you’re not paying attention. Ice age was a planetary alignment which should have snapped us back into cooling. That worked in a pre-agricultural world. It’s no longer the rule with all the driving inputs. I know, I know….yammer, yammer dooms day.

@kayhansen9229

6 ай бұрын

@@retiefgregorovich810 this is what they were talking about. In the 70s we just know more about it now makes it worse.

I'm amazed you managed to keep a straight face when suggesting all countries come together to Actually create a real plan of action and follow it.. I kept waiting for a "Yeah right" or something far less Kiwi oriented..

@apostolosvranas4499

10 ай бұрын

That's the main thing: we know that all the world should collaborate to slow down or reduce the climate change trends but, at the same time, we also feel that tha's an unrealistic expectation!

"There is no way to prepare to survive on a dead planet.'- Guy Macpherson.

@incognitotorpedo42

Жыл бұрын

Macpherson is a loon.

@michaeldelisieux5252

Жыл бұрын

“If” it has happened before, it isn’t due to “ human activities “ ( even though they “may” accelerate the process); it’s obvious that there isn’t nothing we can do to stop it! Nature is the Master.

@ChiefCabioch

Жыл бұрын

Increased CO2 is greening the deserts, enough with your bullshit fear mongering....

@fortheloveofnoise9298

Жыл бұрын

Keyword "on" you survive inside it.

@0ooTheMAXXoo0

Жыл бұрын

Climate change will not lead to a dead planet... I do not think anyone is suggesting that...

I do enjoy your thoughtful take on things. Keep up the great work.

On a purely intuitive understanding I believe I will experience the AMOC stop flowing. A visitor had come to the farmhouse and he was speaking on this. I was sleeping upstairs and remember sitting up like a jack in the box hearing his declaration. Just knew it was something that had relevance.

@tshaika9165

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it will happen within the next 10-20 years or so, the Beaufort gyre is long overdue for spilling over. kzread.info/head/PLHSoxioQtwZcqdt3LK6d66tMreI4gqIC-

I have lived in Alaska since 1977. Since 2008, we have lost much of the cold winter season. no longer did the Kenai Peninsula fall below -30 F in the winter. Average winter temps ate 24-35 degrees. Our summer temps have risen to the mid 70's from a mid 50 degree average. Worst of all, we have experienced massive dieoff of plants and animals. Most of our spruce trees have died due to the spruce beetle not being killed off in the winter months. First we lost starfish in the ocean. Then we had massive dieoff of birds and seals that fed on previous plentiful stocks of baitfish that are no longer present. In the last 5 years, our stocks of king salmon and chum salmon have crashed so bad that there are no longer catches of sport-caught salmon allowed even if all you want to do is catch and release. Commercial fishing using set nets have been closed due to possible catching a king salmon. Also crashing are the once prolific stocks of king crab and snow crab. There is a culprit here and it is the burning of fossil fuels. Burning of coal, oil and gas produces sulphuric acid. When sulphuric acid fall into the ocean, the water gets more acidic (acid rain) and that kills the base of our food chain, zooplankton. Since 1980, the presence of zooplankton in the North Pacific Ocean has decreased by 90+ percent. This also explains why the size of the king salmon that do return to spawn are less than 20lbs a piece. in 1990, the average size of kings returning to the Kenai River averaged 54-66 lbs with about 1/3 of the salmon exceeding 65 lbs with catches of 90+ pound fish occurring weekly.. Face the reality that the Pacific Ocean is dying. The Federal Court closed the last troll fishery for King Salmon in the Pacific Ocean to stop the dieoff of about 72 Orca whales that barely survive between Canada and Washington.

@taaskeprins

11 ай бұрын

These facts you mention might still be caused by the natural cycle that stops the AMOC, since the AMOC has stopped many times before in the history of our planet. I do not deny that our polution has global consequences. But we have to know wheather the due stopping of the AMOC is solely caused by antropogenetic warming or that the natural cycle is the main mechanism. In the latter case there is no preventing the collaps of the AMOC and hence the next ice age.

@Acccountable

9 ай бұрын

As posted by someone else..... The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable………I forgot to mention that this report was from November 2 , 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post 100 years ago. The climate has been changing for 4,500,000,000 years, you cannot fathom that number and I bet the aholes destroying art can't even tell you what a billion is. BTW I am typing underwater in NYC since we have been under water for 23 years now.

@juliahenriques210

9 ай бұрын

@@Acccountable You know you're facing a professional or voluntary shill when their argument is 1 - hard to verify, 2 - hinges on a single point, 3 - emulates "justified outrage", 4 - ignores literal thousands of papers arguing the opposite.

@blakedblake6143

8 ай бұрын

Just say you don't understand science. That's more palatable.@@Acccountable

@SuperAtom16

7 ай бұрын

@@Acccountable "As posted on Facebook groups of climate skeptic..." FIFY. Climate has changed overtime but there's enough studies and papers to prove humans are now interfering the natural balance of climate. As far as 4.5 billion years of climate change, that's the age of the planet. Doesn't mean it was habitable the whole time. 800 million years ago was the first multicellular life found, and even at that period I bet no human could live. If your best shot is to cite a 100 years old newspaper article where your same "someone else" added the last sentence just for the sake of destroying it... Tinfoil hat ahoy, my dude!

It would have been useful to have included some information/theories on how and why AMOC has collapsed multiple times over the last few millennia. Thanks for the video.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

Vast ice discharge from the Laurentide sheet that covered half Canada 2 km thick. It gots the characteristic red mud from Hudson's Bay (the sea not the smashing fashion & jewellery store) dumped it down the Atlantic Ocean. They aren't agreed on the reason for the 23 incidences over 85,000 years of these vast ice discharges from Canada into the Arctic Ocean & Atlantic Ocean but the "binge-purge" bulimia theory where it just got too much ice on Canada and needed a purge has been largely refuted. I don't know where the science is on that, think it's till uncertain. Dane Greenland Dorthe Dahl-Jensen only said it's curious that something happened first and the other thing after rather than the switched around way "you would think" but I've forgotten all the details. The final one was famous as "Younger Dryas" from Europe plants but it was probably the same cause as the other 22 events during the 85,000 years preceding. For study search for Dansgaard-Oeschger (DO) events and Heinrich ice-discharge events and if you want easy-listening videos rather than documents there's Jerry McManus at kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGGNuZqSYNLVgMo.html and old stuff at kzread.info/dash/bejne/e22BuM-Lc92fXbA.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqyEo9puea3IiJM.html I listened to in 2013 and forgot long ago.

@frankenz66

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't fit the human induced narratives.

@jcoker423

Жыл бұрын

Mammoths farting ?

@frankenz66

Жыл бұрын

@@jcoker423 IDK! Fred and Wilma Flintstone were living pretty high on the hog 🤣🤣

@fuzzylogic1492

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought. If it has collapsed multiple times, is this not just a cyclical event? Is green house gas the cause or something else? When I was a kid the climate science was predicting another ice age by now.

Fascinating. Thanks for the information. May I say that your delivery has become far more casual and realistic since I first began watching you.

@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347

Жыл бұрын

Anytime someone starts a sentence with fascinating I then have to read it in Spocks voice lol

@tdowl

Жыл бұрын

So the delivery has become much more casual and realistic. I've not heard him before but I can tell you he could also sound authentic if instead of reading from a script at a rate of knots, he were to speak from the heart at an intelligible speed which gave the listener (there's nothing to view) those vital moments for the meaningful assimilation of such important information. Is it possible to play this video at a slower speed?

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Vivalaleta. I appreciate your feedback :-)

@s-g-j

Жыл бұрын

@@tdowl Just click on the gear at the bottom of the video and pick whatever speed you want from one quarter speed to two times normal.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

It's better now. In previous video his delivery was much darker, and that's the last thing we need right now.

This has been eye opening! Thank you for sharing this! I am definitely looking forward to your next post

I wanted to take a moment to express my sincere appreciation for your video. It was not only informative but also incredibly engaging. Your passion for the subject matter truly shines through, and the way you present information is both entertaining and easy to understand.

One reason I follow this channel is that you present this knowledge in a simple and easily understandable format for the masses. It is one thing to talk about climate change and other studies, but half the time they are presented with enough jargon that it just goes flying over everyone's heads.

@davidstaudohar6733

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 🙏 , The narrator does a wonderful job , Keeping it simple analytical and EZ to comprehend ‼️

@ItsLifeJim007

Жыл бұрын

And fill your head with shite 😂

@terrific804

Жыл бұрын

Right, just follow the science follow the data and don't allow the "masses" to hear or see any of it😳

I hope more people listen to your level headed, factual sharing of info. You should be awarded for your efforts. I salute you sir

@garywhapples7172

Жыл бұрын

Do you know enough about it to actually understand what he is saying?

@speedibusrex

Жыл бұрын

@@garywhapples7172 That's why we are here. To learn.

@LestatTravesty

Жыл бұрын

global panic alarmist. pushing your own end of prosperity. mindlessly, glad to do so. speaking to the public that you are more moral than i. while clueless of sacrifices you will not be so enthusiastic to give up when they call your name.

@Syonnach

Жыл бұрын

@@LestatTravesty "speaking to the public that you are more moral than i." and rightly so. People like you and Gary ought to check out this video's description and realise that it isn't all a grand conspiracy to take away your freedoms or what not. Many people are already making the sacrifices they need to. Please set aside your bitter, flawed logic.

@LestatTravesty

Жыл бұрын

@@Syonnach - bitter flawed logic is a a cold truth. many people. yes. and that includes me. i heat one room out of the entire house. house was at 52 degrees this morning.. the same people you are listening to, are the ones promoting a war with Russia. sending tens of billions of our tax money to UK along with a whole shi load of bombs. denying multiple attempts at reaching a peace with Putin....goin as far as VILINIZING ELON MUSK for simply mention it. the same people who kissed a billionaires as's..until that billionaire gained power over them all for knowing all their dark nasty lies, secrets and scandals. in which they are now attempting discredit our one any only true genius, Eisteind of our time....Elon Musk. who hands down has been the only one that ACTUALLY is doing something about our carbon emissions i will not listen to them scum bags that you find more creditable than Musk. i will not buy into their end of the world dooms day shi they been scaring you into submission with.

I've taught Physics/Chemistry for 37 years and I can say with confidence, that you are a gifted communicator/teacher. Thank you. I have subscribed of course.

@Nehner

2 ай бұрын

Lets say he is a qualified liar

The AMOC stopping will naturally increase the ice coverage of the poles by decreasing temps of the poles. This will increase the ice coverage of poles which will decrease global temps and increase salinity of the oceans.

@Christophe-pl5xu

Ай бұрын

I think also its a kind of circuit. More global warming, more clouds, more rain, less sun shine... In the past , scientific have shown co2 concentration have never been cause of warming or frozing but everytime a consequence which act like catalyst. So we have catalyst something who ll.be arrived thousand years in the future.

A good video. Whether one believes in this doom scenario depends upon how much faith one has in scientific institutions. My experience working on the Great Barrier Reef since 1984 has left me like Christian who has lost his faith. I therefore have no idea what to think about this AMOC collapse phenomenon despite being a physical oceanographer. The doom stories about the Great Barrier Reef started in the 1960s and have been going on ever since. There are reports every month or so about how bad the coral is . And yet the latest statistics from the Australian Institute of Marine Science reveal it has never had more coral than this year. This despite 4 "devastating" bleaching events in just the last 6 years. The latest statistics demonstrate that many science institutions got it totally wrong about the reef. The institutions have been overtaken by groupthink. I have been calling for much better quality assurance in science institutions, something that got me fired in 2018. So, brilliant video, but there is now far too much evidence that much of the peer reviewed literature is greatly flawed. Until something is done about that, I remain a scientist to the core but a lost soul about the science institutions. Peter Ridd. ps, why not contact me about a video on the Great Barrier Reef

@n0killz44

Жыл бұрын

I recently found out about glacier girl, a ww2 plane in Greenland that was buried under 250ft of snow in just 50 years. It’s hard to reconcile this with record melting that we hear about constantly.

@lamarguitar

Жыл бұрын

www.aims.gov.au/information-centre/news-and-stories/great-barrier-reef-not-fine-and-nor-it-dying-truth-inbetween And increased snowfall isn't necessarily counter-indicative of rising temperatures. In fact, increased moisture in cold climes could be indicative of warming.

@court2379

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. These models are speculative at best and passed off as if they are fact. We don't have the understanding or model resolution and processing power to drive it to get to the accuracy needed for the claims made. Sure it is something of concern and the models might be partly correct, but we don't know. History has shown again and again all these predictions to be wrong. The world has a large buffering capacity that addresses most of the sky is falling issues.

@BobQuigley

Жыл бұрын

The issue is humans stubborn resistance to thinking beyond their own life span. Add this to little to no knowledge of the past. What we do know is basic physics of greenhouse gases. We have pretty good grasp of how much we're adding to our shared atmosphere, oceans. We also know there's no Oil Fairy refilling the holes with hydrocarbons. That the easy fossil fuel finds are nearly non existent. That these fossil fuels provide overwhelming majority of our fertilizer needs, feed stock chemicals for thousands of products. That a spike in their usage since industrial revolution has added 7 billion new humans with 80 million net new precious humans joining us annually. Business uses the idea of leading indicators and lagging indicators to guesstimate the health of their businesses. Problem with leading indicators is you generally don't recognize them until they pass by. For me this is enough to act on! Don't need 'six sigma certainty' or an impending collision with a civilization ending meteor. Thanks for video!

@BBBrasil

Жыл бұрын

I can't see how you've got fired for calling for better quality assurances. At the very least you are omitting things here and biases opinion against institutions, leading the readers to agree with your statements by defamation, the readers here dont have access to either your firing case and the scientific publishing you mentioned. That being said, pay for publishing and pay for reading scientific articles make for bad information flow. Even worse, only-positive-results publishing eschews scientific advancement, science should also note, pier-reviewed, what doesn't work, but there are no funds for that. Worst, and related to your post, lack of revision for why certain predictions / published papers didn't pan out don't sell, thus we don't get funds for them.

Permanent la nina (cooler daytime temperatures, wetter conditions, floods) is not ideal for eastern Australia, but it is preferrable to permanent el nino (drought, heat waves, mass bushfires)

@Marvin-dg8vj

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I dont know why anybody would say El Nini was preferable.

Excellent presentation, well documented and presented in a way that is easy for the ordinary folks like me to understand. Thank you very much . Expect more such videos.

I built models for govt and corps for many years. even with advanced computers it is really difficult to take into account inter-actions of all the systems: eg. sea water termp, salinity, and atmospheric circulation, east/west, south/north. with the wild card of eight or nine tipping points that can pop off randomly it all gets impossible to predict with a high degree of certainty. this is why global warming pace consistently surprises scientists. that aside, all of us need to take climate action to heart. not sure how anyone can prep to survive it. but perhaps we can delay the inevitable.

Thanks for reminding us. Sadly though, we (people knowing and caring about global warming) have known about this for about 30 years. I doubt the public will ever take any interest in the issue until the stream collapses. And people playing down the problems we face are still VERY prominent in the media.

@vaga4239

Жыл бұрын

Definitely start prepping (yeah it's going to make you look nuts) but something is going to give out soon

@InfoSponge101

Жыл бұрын

Adapt2030. Humanity under attack

@martincrotty

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately us humans have advanced so rapidly that we convinced ourselves that our silly imagined human world is all there is and everything outside of it is just there for our use. Sure the weeds growing through cracks in the pavement always give me hope. While "intelligent" life may possibly be a short term self destructive phenomenon, life in all it's splendor has been through hellish periods before and is very capable of coming back from cataclysmic events.

@ramblerandy2397

Жыл бұрын

Indeed we have known about this for the last 30 years. It's the old chestnut that won't go away. Helped of course by "The Day After Tomorrow" movie. I was in a tech support job by then, and all my fellow nerds were quizzing me on the movie, knowing my environmental background. The number of times I had to explain that, yes, what was being illustrated was absolutely possible, but no, not in the time span depicted by the movie. And further details thereafter. If I had dined out on every explanation I'd have ended up like Mr Creosote. Excellent informative video Dave, as always. I love those dropped articles. Do you do the graphics? I may have asked this one before.

@vaga4239

Жыл бұрын

@@martincrotty haven't given up hope that my quiet corner of this world will be mostly spared from cataclysm. That being said I bought a cabin in the woods and have that stocked and ready to sustain me for a year or so (without nuclear fallout so let's hope Russia simmers down 😅)

Gentle Genius- love your teaching style - positive energy sent your way from Sunny Florida 🌞

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Heather. Much appreciated :-)

You are a very much needed eco warrior, sir, I salute you. Thanks to people like you, we can no longer use ignorance as an excuse for what our behavior is doing to the planet. Your children and grandchildren will be very proud of you (if we ever pull out of this).

I agree totally with your closing statement; you summed it all up very well! great video

Thank you. Not enough people know about the Beaufort Gyre and the Amoc.

@robfer5370

Жыл бұрын

Yep everyone should share this video and all the other ones anywhere they can, we need to get this info out to everyone around the world.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

Mister Cyclonic and Mizz AntiCyclonic know, though they certainly don't agree.

@nmarbletoe8210

Жыл бұрын

Rename it the Beyonce Gyre to increase awareness.

@mrburn6119

Жыл бұрын

@@robfer5370 what that the amoc shut down *this time* is due to _mans climate change_ ?

@neilmcmanus3727

Жыл бұрын

they are too busy watching TV and shopping

Good job explaining a complex topic. Thank you.

Civilization collapse usually happened when a society is too rigid to adapt, for instance mesopotamia wouldn't move their great capital when the region dried up of water, so eventually they became sand people and eventually died out (if I remember correctly). Now though, the hurdle to geographic shuffling to better climes is because everywhere is occupied already, most people can't afford to simply reshuffle. Personally, I had nothing to my name so moved with ease to somewhere I can live better, although it would be harder now as I've children and a home, but at least I'm living less dependent on rigid systems than the ones I used to struggle in (cities and then high cost of living areas). When the flood comes, now im part of a community that won't/can't lock me out of the arks. I wouldn't have children now if I hadn't moved far when it was a terrifying prospect full of risks, but taking the plunge seems to have paid off. Humans are adaptable, but other species are not and all need a spot in our neighborhood arks. Let's do what we can for our wild friends, whether that's leaving them space in the garden to nest, supporting conservation groups, switching to more responsible energies, etc. That awareness felt fruitless when I had nowhere to call my own, so I moved and it is better now. 🌝

@sharonmartin9645

Жыл бұрын

You seem to have achieved my dream. I’m quickly approaching circumstances that would allow a potential relocation to somewhere else in the world to live out my life, in a manner that you describe. Would you please offer some potential destinations for me to research and consider (?) Thank you. May you and your family have a happy, healthy and peaceful new year in 2023.

@gage4375

Жыл бұрын

All species and civilization's die sooner later ,relax enjoy the ride get a wife have some children 😉

@gage4375

Жыл бұрын

@@sharonmartin9645 stop worrying about the planet the planet could care less about you

@wynfrithnichtwo8423

11 ай бұрын

Sumer became assumed by Akads and then this group known as Assyrians and Babylonians put death nails in it, and to salt the earth the Iranic peoples begin filtering in in mass.

You hit the nail on the head there ‘Pointless international talking shops’ that is my view entirely. What is needed is action groups to push through the required work, not people sitting around agreeing on solutions and patting each other on the backs then doing F all!

@jimthain8777

Жыл бұрын

We are the "action groups". What we Choose to do, has a profound effect. So choose wisely.

@mac2658

Жыл бұрын

Hi Wayne, could you tell me what you are doing and what have you sacrificed in our pursuit of this goal?

@wayneharrison9222

Жыл бұрын

@@mac2658 hi, I have a full solar PV system on my roof with a Tesla powerwall battery back up, for 10 months of the year I supply the entire house and export to the grid, for the other 2 months I just about self sustain our own household requirements, the installation cost me a small fortune! Both cars are hybrids too. What about yourself?

@wayneharrison9222

Жыл бұрын

@@jimthain8777 climate crisis has been on the horizon for decades, but fossil fuel company’s have ‘bought’ so many corrupt so called scientists to discredit the real scientists, money and greed is why we are where we are now, is anything going to change?

@mac2658

Жыл бұрын

@@wayneharrison9222 Nothing, I'm doing nothing because it's vastly exaggerated and what you're doing is useless apart from making you feel good. And I suppose by your stuff you are in the wealthy class and fuck poor people who can't afford your toys.

High quality production and well researched! Thanks for the time you put into this. This video puts across a very complicated subject in a way that is simple to understand.

What I've been reading about for the last 10 years or so is a collapse of the the North Atlantic gyre. This is the portion of the circulation of the Atlantic that includes the Gulf stream and the current as it goes past the British Isles and sinks down toward the bottom of the ocean along Africa. It is believed to have failed about 13,000 years ago resulting in a sudden cooling of North America and Europe. The last ice age was just beginning to let up and the gulfstream was beginning to move north as that happened. When it collapsed, there was a resurgence of the ice age that lasted about 2,000 years. There are two main theories of why this happened. One, the rapid meltdown of the glaciers may have flooded the sea with cold water and destroyed the gyre. Two, an asteroid or comet impacted the Laurentian glacier on North America which caused a huge surge of cold water into the sea.

@infinitejest441

9 ай бұрын

Younger Dryas.

Thank you for your sourced post. Very clear and accessible.

Thank you for your clear and realistic videos

Thank you again of these clear interpretation videos. Very well explained. 🙏

What I found most striking was the animation of the AMOC. It reminded me of videos of cloud circulation on Jupiter.

@etienne8110

Жыл бұрын

Convection. Physiscs is the same in all places.

There is nothing you can do to strengthen an argument more as to make your point clearly and calmly. I'd be calling that job done...

Seems to me that the least expensive thing to avoid all these problems is to just get on and apply the plans we've already come up with. Thanks to politicians, who all appear to be under the fossil fuel industry's thumb, it isn't going to happen. What a misnomer our species name is.

@twistdshade

Жыл бұрын

Just shut everything down that emits greenhouse gases. People will figure out alternatives pretty quickly if fossil fuels are cut off completely.

@j-s.w7909

Жыл бұрын

More the bureaucracy’s thumb, which is backing EV’s and AI now

@cxngo8124

Жыл бұрын

We are the only species that won't slove a problem because it's to expensive or doesn't make us money

@MysteriousFuture

Жыл бұрын

@@cxngo8124 and hurts the average citizen by making it expensive to live due to more climate taxes and implementation of policies

@everettpadgett862

Жыл бұрын

@@cxngo8124 those china batteries... CO2 is .004% of our atmosphere... More people in larger countries are producing way more... Authoritarianism is the only way to solve this and we can't even agree to not make nukes.

My grade 8 environments study teacher 27 years ago said global warming will cause current changes and a current collapse would cause massive disruptions. Guess we’re still figuring this out

Thank you. My understanding grows with every video you post.

Thanks for a fascinating video with a clear explanation. I had read of the collapse of the AMOC in an article published about 20 years ago. It seemed to postulate that the result of the collapse would not be a planet overheating but that the event could usher in a new mini-ice age due to the resulting shift in ocean currents. Regardless, I have felt that what we are faced with globally is (and has been) something we as humans cannot really abort or effect even if we coordinated globally to cut our greenhouse gas emissions, etc. The best we can do is prepare for what is moving upon us in the form of such things as much more radical weather (i.e. hurricanes, tornados) as well as devastating sea level increases which will leave low lying areas such as Florida and most coastlines radically changed. This type of preparation the human race could actually do with success even at this late hour. But we fritter away invaluable time conducting useless climate control gatherings of heads of state and sign useless, unenforceable treaties and, in the end , remain in as bad a position or worse. Our governments and global organizations are the perfect example of the small orchestral violins playing on the deck of the Titanic as the ship slips below the waves. The best efforts that can achieve some sort of security is what can now be done on the personal individual scale. Do not rely on your government to save the day. They are too busy performing the political calculus to really produce a safe , secure outcome for anyone other than themselves.

@tdowl

Жыл бұрын

Well said, John.

@reyhudson563

Жыл бұрын

Though you have expressed your ideas very well, it would be good to remember that Floridians (highest spot: 345 ft.) can move to Georgia (plenty of land over 1,000 ft. and highest spot: 4,500 ft.) (Might do well to stay away from Alabama, though; Edgar Cayce predicted southern Alabama would sink.)😏 Holland has some land 6 meters below sea level (That's minus 20 ft.) and yet they have been able to cope and even to drive back the sea for hundreds of years, even BEFORE they had electric pumps. In the German language one says, "Es wird nicht so heiss gegessen als gekocht!" ("You don't EAT the soup as hot as you COOK it!" meaning: There are LOTS of theories going round (believe it or not, making us hotter AND colder) and all from good scientists, but not ONE of them knows all the details of what it's going to be like in even forty years... a few things, maybe; everything: NO WAY! Fogedabodit!😉

@alexanderstone9463

Жыл бұрын

“Do not rely on your government to save the day.” This is why I do not trust Republicans on global warming. This is your mantra and you derive conclusions from it rather than from what you see. You know well that the only institution even remotely powerful enough to stop global warming is government which you are ideologically opposed to. It is in your interest therefore to deny anthropogenic global warming, so that government will not expand. I warn you that this foolish and myopic viewpoint will come to haunt the Republican Party, particularly in places like Florida. I do not believe in anthropogenic global warming because scientists tell me to. I believe it because it aligns with the evidence that I see and logically follows from things that science taught before we realized anything about global warming. In the past, like the during the age of the dinosaurs, the earth was significantly warmer as a result of higher CO2 levels. That CO2 was sequestered into the crust and the earth cooled, so much so that our era, the Cenozoic, is far colder than that in which the dinosaurs lived. Indeed were it not for volcanism plants would eventually freeze the earth solid. We have spent one and a half centuries releasing the Carbon that warmed the earth in previous eras. Therefore, we should expect the earth’s climate to resemble that of previous eras on account of our activity. This is an entirely logical assumption and we have photographic evidence of it happening. Of course, the story is slightly more complicated in its details, though not in it’s conclusion. Usually volcanism is slightly more effective than sequestration, for most of the past half a billion years the earth has been free of ice caps. Indeed it’s not as if volcanism has been absent from our present Cenozoic era, in fact it’s been relatively steady. Both volcanic carbon emissions and carbon sequestration by plants have both been relatively steady. So why did it change? Well there is another reason why the earth cooled that had nothing to do with the continuous sequestration of carbon. At the beginning of the Oligocene Antarctica froze solid because of the Antarctic circumpolar current, that and the formation of the isthmus of Panama are the real reason why the Cenozoic period has been so cold. Our oceans will “fight” against global warming so to speak because its circulatory system has feedback mechanisms that favor a colder climate rather than a warmer one. But those mechanisms mitigate normal fluctuations in the warmer direction, and this not a “normal” fluctuation. The fossil fuels we burn are added on top of the steady volcanic emissions, and that is happening on a scale that’s orders of magnitude faster than plants could possibly sequester it. The effect that this has is not business as usual; it is much more akin to the eruption of a large igneous province, like the flood basalts of old. Except this time there are no flood basalts, we are dumping the CO2 into the atmosphere. If we keep dumping CO2 into the atmosphere the feedback mechanisms keeping the Cenozoic “ice house” climate in place will be overwhelmed, and the climate will go back to what it was like during the age of the dinosaurs. Bite the bullet, you need not do anything unconstitutional. Even under a strict originalist interpretation, the Tax and Spending Clause combined with the power to raise tariffs gives Congress all the power it needs to fix this problem. The longer you wait the more extremists there will be demanding more “radical” solutions.

@servehim1746

Жыл бұрын

So, the experts don't come to the same conclusions?? So much for climate experts! Let's work on things we CAN make a dent in (eliminate waste, war, etc.).

@dp-kz5cs

Жыл бұрын

I agree , weve globally unanimously come to the same basic conclusion that something is definitely happening. 🤔 most go to the denial. . To prepare and stay aware . Gov wont tell anything till after the fact . I think Bidens trying to kill us off. Every leader follows . I despise most people so this is the god send to my boredom , we here in suck wv havent had any traumatic weather for a long time , i mean NOTHING !! So these idiots dont believe anything about global warming (what theres a world beyond west virginia.......rescue me ).so many town like this , how do you "wrangle up " all those hueberoustic know it all's that will call you the idiot ?? YOU DONT .😁😂there in lies the beauty of the culling . Better be clever better stay aware . This bot in our hands is another distraction .

Happy to be proved wrong but I think the system wouldn't be a simple jump in climate - it would tend to oscillate for a thousand years or so before stabilising in a new equilibrium. If AMOC shuts down then the North Atlantic gets colder. This reduces ice melt from Greenland which tends to allow AMOC to start up again. Once started Greenland melts again which kills off AMOC once more. I did see a graph many years ago showing this pattern at the end of the last ice-age, although I couldn't find that graph again. The change in temperate was dramatic - complete step change. After a few years there was a step change back to the original temperature for another few years, then repeat. This oscillation in climate would effectively kill agriculture - it is very hard to grow stuff when you've no idea what climate you are in.

@dannybrashear5857

Жыл бұрын

There are multiple studies of paleoclimate changes which were massive temp changes that occurred within a few decades or less. Some of the oscillations are very extreme and rapid according to some studies.

@user-ul2wl9ss5x

2 ай бұрын

​@@dannybrashear5857 Yes. Oceans currents are well known phenomenon and their cycles are 60-65 years from warm to warm ( or cold to cold ). Now they are turning to cold phase again. North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and Arctic Oscillation (AO) are already in cold phase . Last time when this happened we were under ice-age threat which suddenly changed to AGW when they turn to warm phase 1978. Now it´s time to panic coming ice-age again (AGC - maybe?). Climate science use these normal changes as possibility to make money. All studies (there were plenty) which proved this oscillation are hidden somewhere because they don´t support climate change (AGW) script.

Thank you, Sir. Nice to hear the issues so clearly. Stuns me constantly that you don't just stop talking and start screaming. Sometimes I do it for you. Thanks again!

Your work is always a delight. I have to wonder if there would be seismic or volcanic response to the shutdown due to the high and low pressure systems in progress...

@grindupBaker

10 ай бұрын

Not an idiotic thought but extremely unlikely. One of the tiny regions where dense water shoves south and makes half the AMOC push (a bowl 3,000 m deep north of Jan Mayan south of Svalbard-Spitzbergen in the Greenland Sea) is directly on the fracture between North American & Asiatic tectonic plates. However, the AMOC is pushed almost entirely during the winter of course because summer is too warm there to push it, so it's already stopping & starting annually and there's no relationship between earthquakes & volcanoes there and its seasons. The ocean there will rise a tiny amount if the AMOC stops because the surface water running downhill from the South Atlantic will finally get to finish running downhill. Perhaps that will make an earthquake at that fracture zone.

@volafox

10 ай бұрын

@@grindupBaker Forgive my shallow speculations, my formal education is sadly lacking in most common geology. It is a beautiful process with nuances slow and swift, and I appreciate your explanation of one of so many movements in this world.

Surprised Dave didn't mention the north Atlantic 'cold blob' which is a dramatic illustration that the AMOC slow down is well underway. Part of the North Atlantic is now cooler than at anytime since records began about 80 years ago, and that's in a warming world!

@downburst1

Жыл бұрын

No it isn’t. There was a temporary cold Atlantic blob for a year or two, totally normal and happens frequently.

@ianseaweed

Жыл бұрын

Still there in November 2022, expected to remain until the 2050’s.

@downburst1

Жыл бұрын

There is a tiny anomaly in the western North Atlantic about 1.5c max divergence at the surface.

@galoalbertosantanaruiz5737

Жыл бұрын

You didn't mention why is that : REASON IS THAT THE ARTIC IS WARMING UP MUCH FASTER THAN THE WORLD AVERAGE ! AND THAT MEANS HUGE SWEET WATER INFLOW FROM THE NORTH INTO THE ATLANTIC !

@davidbarnkow5595

Жыл бұрын

@@galoalbertosantanaruiz5737 And arctic warming is easily explained by increased weakening of the global magnetic circuit and pole shift. and the resulting influx of solar and cosmic plasma radiation and their interaction with the earth's atmospheric and solid electric circuits.

Thanks Dave, great job. Much appreciated.

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Brian

Amazing information and wonderful presentation- you’ve been working out 💡

Your last words pointing exactly who is behind you. I listened to you with open heart that you are bringing science and not psychopath agendas.

Thank you. Keep us abreast.

Excellent presentation. You made the science very accessible to me. Thankyou for your calm approach to such a potentially difficult subject

Thank you for yet another great video mr. Borlace 😉👍🏼

This was a really cool video. Thank you for making it. Your work is greatly appreciated!

WOW …. THANK YOU for making this video! Ive often wondered about this and have kept telling my kids, that here in Wisconsin, it seems like the planet is slowly shifting poles or something. Only bc the winters have not been the same since 1979. Our winters are much too warm. Thank you for making this video.

@brucecampbell6578

Жыл бұрын

Hard to tell considering the chem clouds which is government interference. Most gardeners would doubt the CO2 story, considering plants are always starving for more. Its the same in Northern California where I have lived my life. Less and less rain since the 80s. Now our weather is more akin to Southern California patterns. Something is going on for sure.

@Greg-yu4ij

Жыл бұрын

Here’s a thought for your kids. Ask them how much the sea level will rise in the next 10 years. When they say 1-2 meters , say more like 1-2 centimeters. Then point to this guy’s nice chart showing O(1)mm rise per year. Once you ground their expectations in actual science you should be able to tackle the pole shift question with ease 😂

@sinkpehnarossfire454

Жыл бұрын

@@Greg-yu4ij 🌎: "Mmm-Huhn, Mother Earth and Mother Nature have been seriously Hot Flashing for awhile.......Mayans chiseled info on stone for future understandings and weather Cycles. Maybe your help will provide accurate info for the younger American kids-students." 🤗

@itsoktoberight4431

Жыл бұрын

Not where I live, winter weather has been going on since April this year up to December, that's 9 months! All time record rain and cold days in summer

@maryhelen9940

Жыл бұрын

Watch suspicious observers Ben Davidson. Catch up with world events

The lighting is so much better on this video. Well done!

@lrvogt1257

Жыл бұрын

Agreed... but face could use a bit more contrast.

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew. I think we finally got there!

All seas and oceans on the ball are connected and they want you to believe only certain one’s are rising. Madness

It just seems logical to me that we should learn to live in our environment without destroying it. Sustainability should always be the primary goal and focus. I am constantly amazed at how many people revel in destruction and misery.

@brucemiller1696

9 ай бұрын

There is more money in destruction and misery vs peace and harmony. Wars need money and politicians are invested in wars. Trump was the only President in decades that didnt start a war or continue one.

I was in Greenland for a year and took the opportunity to asses the glaciers where I was stationed. Someone named the three glaciers around my location as one dead and two live. So this climate change was on going in 1956 and no one paid any attention as to why. Frankly looking at the dead glacier was like going to a funeral as the feeling was sad. I could not say anything or if I did I would be thrown to the polar bears, if you could find one. It is indeed sad to seen the degrading of the climate.

Your point about the models is the key, in my view. There are many variables and indeed many interdependent systems that make the accurate modelling of climate change extremely challenging. Ocean circulation is just one of these systems. To make matters worse, the collections of systems itself is not static. For example, consider the effect of more CO2 on vegetation. We have already seen a 15% increase in planetary "greening" owing to rising CO2 levels. We could ask, what influence does this "greening" have on ocean circulation and vice versa?

@channel1_channel

Жыл бұрын

Accurate climate forcasts would surely have to include the prime heat generator.

@jessepollard7132

Жыл бұрын

Basically all chrophyll converts sunlight into atmospheric heat. The green you see is what isn't converted.

What weve been saying for 40 years , This is well presented and balanced. Thanks so much.

@matthewm7867

Жыл бұрын

Global warming is a hoax - temps this year are cooling dramatically - the sun has the reigns

@aaronjennings8385

3 ай бұрын

Good work. You were right.

A decent amount of preparedness is always a good habit. Of course, if earth moves towards a direction of complete disruption, one might wonder what the point of living in such a future would be.

@fuleinist

8 ай бұрын

Birth rate proofs Gen z are smart 😂

loved the update

Very nicely presented as usual

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

Yes, I'd like to know more about AMOC. It is truly terrifying what is happening to our planet and that we flirt with this level of danger.

@vaga4239

Жыл бұрын

I think it's wilful ignorance at this point, oil is so profitable that governments are encouraged to plug their ears and shout till something catastrophic happens.

@tschmitz4522

Жыл бұрын

@@vaga4239 I think it's criminal.

@terryhigson434

Жыл бұрын

its all bullshit.

Thank you for this awesome presentation. I've subscribed to Just Have a Think. 🙂

@grindupBaker

10 ай бұрын

OK but the video title is godawful misinformation CRAP. The video & lead comments are fine enough. The AMOC is NOT "global ocean circulation" (the video title), not even close. Perhaps 20% of it, probably less. GLOBAL ocean circulation is driven around Antarctica NOT around Greenland. So normal for the internet, lying clickbait titles to draw attention. Junk-science drivel not the topic of the video.

People are actually paying attention to this now, because we have a couple decades left, not a couple centuries. peace earth.

Thank you for keeping me sane! I was teaching high school environmental science a decade ago and this was exactly what I predicted based on the studies I could access (there was little to nothing in the textbooks). TBH I could see we were past the point of no return already but all progress is still progress! Anyway, climate change & all its repercussions is such a "big picture" thing its very hard for most scientists to grasp, leave alone students or the public. But you do an excellent job, thx!!

@arcanondrum6543

Жыл бұрын

I sometimes wonder if there is a rescue in mind (not involving Mars, if we can't do it right here, there's no hope for us there) but regarding Bloom Energy. The devices are in-use by FedEx and a couple other Fortune 500. Is there a scenario where a population collapse is welcomed by the few at which point many Bloom Energy devices (the device purportedly converts as much Carbon Dioxide to Oxygen as "tens of thousands of trees", each) are finally powered and begin scrubbing. But then I remember Growth Capitalism and sociopathic billionaires and I think; _"Ohh that's right, never mind."._ Yes, I did re-post instead of edit.

@peacepoet1947

Жыл бұрын

@@arcanondrum6543 the Earth should always have places where people would survive. Even if there was fires or ice. Not everyone would survive and populations would move to more comfortable regions of the Earth.

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tolley. Much appreciated

@grgmetube

Жыл бұрын

@@peacepoet1947 Hopefully the ones to survive would be intellectually honest and emotionally honest but I don't know that there is a strong natural selection for that

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

@@grgmetube I'm pretty-near certain that there is a strong natural selection against that

Love your graphics and delivery- great subject . This ought to be part of all middle school/ high school science classes

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Anne. I really appreciate your feedback.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

Shameless apple polisher.

@TheDoomWizard

Жыл бұрын

You might like my content too.

@sinkpehnarossfire454

Жыл бұрын

@@JustHaveaThink 🌎: " 🙂🖐" ..................

@baneverything5580

Жыл бұрын

No time for learning in schools anymore. There`s an agenda to force into young skulls now. Besides, math is now considered racist so we have to lower all standards of education so nobody gets their feelings hurt or learns the truth about reality or real history. All of that must now be erased and rewritten to fit the new narrative of division and hate. Lots of money is at stake.

“A whole circuit can take up to a thousand years.” Interesting… Go back 1000 years in history and you’ll find yourself in the middle of the Medieval Warm Period.

Thank you once again for your great videos

Nightmare fuel. We should be prevving (preventing), not prepping.

@kx7500

Жыл бұрын

We’re now forced to do both

@thomasmaughan4798

Жыл бұрын

"We should be prevving" There is no WE. Prev if you wish.

@thomasmaughan4798

Жыл бұрын

@xIcyStarzz "It's literally too late. All you can do now is get ready" The deadline passed 5 minutes ago. Or was it 40 years ago? It is difficult to keep track of all these predictions.

@timmydotlife

Жыл бұрын

There is We and we should not prevent. Prevent is a mean to control. Controlling implies to alter the natural flow. Time on tine interfering with nature turns out to be a bad idea.

@Leastmachine

Жыл бұрын

You got a plan to keep the ocean running?

Best explanation of the AMOC thanks

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thank you :-)

One should include the effect of the Beaufort Gyre, a cold water pool west of Greenland. The periodical outflow of this rasavoir is definitely a game changer in the flow of the golf stream.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

Ah but is the rasavoir a game changer for curling ? because THAT'S the ice related one.

One of the most amazing changes in my lifetime is that the fabled Northwest Passage through Arctic waters is now basically open. It was still slammed shut when I was a child, as it had been for early European explorers. .

@AndrewCharnley

Жыл бұрын

...sure but interesting to note that these cold areas, Antarctic in particular, was for much of the past 100 million years a tropical paradise.

@emotown1

Жыл бұрын

And, in the spirit of things, it’s also interesting to note that for much of of the past 5 billion years the Antarctic was glowing magma.

@jeffspicoli5399

Жыл бұрын

@@emotown1 The Earth isn't even 5 billion years old dude. As for the magma thing... You Emos make my head hurt. Just stick with the pole puffing thing lol 😂

@og4372

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffspicoli5399 I think he rounded up, but according to the acretion theory it was pretty much molten all over. Of course no continents existed just yet.

@XD-te6vj

Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewCharnley clearly you have zero concept of continental drift. Now antarctica used to be near the equator due to drift. Nice try.

About 30 years ago I attended a lecture called, if I remember correctly, “Global Warming could mean the freezing of Paris”. The only thing that has changed since that presentation is how fast we are making it happen!

@grindupBaker

10 ай бұрын

No "ice age" here mate. About half our fucking country's on fire right now. So not your typical "ice age" as I understand it.

@apostolosvranas4499

10 ай бұрын

@@grindupBaker, wrong anwer, my friend! It won't happen in the cinematographic speed of The Day After Tomorrow - thank God for that!

Thank you for your posts! Slightly disturbed that I am getting more subtle climate denial dressed as science popping up in my feeds and I've been almost tricked. Worrying that there really are no politicians with the scientific background to actually address this fundamental existential predicament. Experts are gone and financiers have taken over the controls. It's going to get very ugly.

@richardsmith579

Жыл бұрын

The financiers pay the experts who give them the answers they want.

@miroslavhoudek7085

Жыл бұрын

@@richardsmith579 that's nonsense. Would you accept money to destroy the planet on which you and your family live? Then why do you assume "the experts" would? The financiers have no need to pay experts, because nobody listens to the experts. They instead own the media and modulate the presentation of facts in such a way, that public remains aligned with their profit goals.

@darrensnell1869

Жыл бұрын

Subtle climate denial? or just real unbiased un-politicised science, the simple truth is non of them or us really know, and we humans have no control over the universe. Live well now and the future will take care of itself.

@to6941

Жыл бұрын

If you post something that builds a human induced Co2 climate crisis you will get a lot of well read people who understand that this is a WEF agenda. Many also understand that the climate has always changed and will continue to do so whether we have a personal carbon credit system or not. Also scientists who study solar activity had predicted the coming 2030 freeze back in 2015 however they have now been silenced. Maybe you need to do some research yourself I’d start with the WEF personal blockchain linked carbon credit system.

@Mcrauder800

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean "Climate denial?" No one denies climate exists and changes. Just name climate prediction climatologists have gotten correct. Islands like the Maldives were predicted to have been flooded by now, they've risen by several meters. Our planet has benafitted from more co2. Our biggest danger is pollution, plastic in the ocean. What have you got to say about climatologists adjusting some of the records to make warming appear true, or worse than it is? I can provide graphs by NOAA and the IPCC that have removed the medieval warming period and the 1030s warming.

I think he made this video before the new statics came out. this year we had record ice in both north and south pole. The ice is growing and not shrinking. The new consensus is that it will be colder in the future not warmer.

Brilliant. Very interesting and very well presented. Thank you.

One of the penultimate channels for filling my trousers 😱. Seriously though, a brilliant broadcaster with an incredible style and research work. Thank you!!

Was time to start prepping years ago. Any climatologist who doesn't encourage preparedness doesn't believe (or understand) the realities of what they discuss.

That was a fun thought experiment. Nice to think more on the systems that govern climate and play out scenarios.

Very interesting topic. Has there been any research about how quickly ice formed at mid latitudes during previous ice ages?

I live in Romania. Since about 10 - 15 years ago winters became very mild and almost no snow. Before, the winters were very snowy and cold. Nobody seems to care and very few take notice...

@grindupBaker

11 ай бұрын

Actually, snow reduction isn't necessarily a sign of global warming but it can be in Romania. It depends on the latitude is what I'm saying. At higher latitudes where it's still cold enough for snow there can actually be MORE snow with global warming because pretty all snow (and all rain) comes from evaporation off the tropical ocean so more global warming == more rain and == more snow wherever it's still cold enough for snow.

Physics. Nature wrote the rules. We break em at much peril. ShakeUp XR

Human greed will continue to lead us towards the cliff and we won't realize how foolish we've been until after we've gone over the edge and it's too late to do anything about it. Great video btw!

@dudewaldo4

Жыл бұрын

Human greed and the fact that we've put it in the driver's seat of society

@nicolasuribestanko

Жыл бұрын

Although I agree totally, I also believe we should burn as much fossil fuel as possible. Why? Because I'm convinced we've already passed several tipping points, and if you've booked passage on the Titanic you might as well go first class.

I heard the voice of God loudly proclaim to cancel the AMOC, just last week, I've been obsessed with finding information to confirm this, and explain it's effects on our earth ever since. Thanks for this info, it's the best I've found so far.

Just valuable contributions to society from this excellent presenter. Thank you

The Thermohaline circulation might collapse, but it won't stay that way for long. The waters around the equatorial line would become excessively hot and the water around the poles would frozen, increasing salinity of the water near the poles and then moving south towards the equatorial line, thus, restarting the circulation. However, the direction of the circulation might be different.

@lrvogt1257

Жыл бұрын

Not for long is a very relative term. Either way it would be catastrophic in the short term and for a long time after.

@dalel3608

Жыл бұрын

@@lrvogt1257 Yup, "not long" could easily be a decade (or more) before the salinity disparity is great enough to kickstart the circulation again. Once halted, that is a lot of water to get moving again.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

@pedrolopes3542 Your thermodynamics & oceanography are wildly incorrect there. It isn't esoteric like, say, quantum physics, but it does take some hours of quiet actual fact gathering & study to produce a worthwhile thought. For example, I pondered the +ve feedback aspect of the AMOC force starters from scratch & realized the +ve feedback aspect for 8 hours in June 2020 while plastic kayaking and just a month ago heard Stefan Rahmstorf (mentioned in his video) mention a talk what I had deduced in June 2020, the +ve feedback aspect which causes "tipping point " and a bi-stable state arrangement. It does need a basic science education like British 6th Form and some genuine quiet studying though, not just a quick babble from the hip like yours. It's good that you're trying to think though.

@markhemsworth2670

Жыл бұрын

@@grindupBaker that's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing useful.

@lrvogt1257

Жыл бұрын

@@dalel3608 Long is a relative term. It would certainly be long enough to be catastrophic.

Past performance is no guarantee and all that, but humans are remarkably good at avoiding cohesion. There was a report they managed it once briefly, but were stymied - something about multiple languages. I'm glad to hear someone is studying the AMOC. While not distracting from the work on slowing general warming, might it be also good to begin preparations for the likely future state? How will we charge our iPhone batteries at least?

@incognitotorpedo42

Жыл бұрын

Your iPhone battery will be the least of your problems.

@danyoutube7491

Жыл бұрын

@@incognitotorpedo42 I think he knows that :)

@lindarose2327

Жыл бұрын

A number of obviously previous human species have gone extinct mostly due to climate changes. And when chaos happens and no one is able to cool the spent rods we will have massive Fukushimas and that will burn off the ozone layer and a barren rock will remain like Mars.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

"I'm glad to hear someone is studying the AMOC". All kinds of scientists are studying the AMOC non stop of course. There are AMOC specialists. The US Clivar videos I listen to have an AMOC series (among other topic series).

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

@sdkjl5984 I wasn't Alarmed about this 6th Extinction Event kerfuffle until you pointed out my iPhone charger might stop working. Thanks for nothing !

thank you for a well explained video.

Good info well presented. Thank you.

In recent years there has been a apparent sharp increase in the rate of decline of the AMOC though it's hard to be sure as there are large year to year fluctuations. There was a large hesitation around 2009 which resulted in a 9cm sea level rise along the US East Coast albeit temporary. It reminds me of the splutters of a petrol engine that is about to run out of fuel. Stephan Rahmsdorf said him self that it may be that current models are overestimating the stability of the AMOC.

@sammason2300

Жыл бұрын

Can you say a bit more about the temporary sea level rise? I find this an odd concept outside of tidal and weather timescales

@petewright4640

Жыл бұрын

@@sammason2300 As the Gulf Stream moves north the water is deflected east by the rotation of the Earth aka the Coriolis effect. This lowers sea level along the East Coast. If the stream weakens then sea level to it's west rises.

So, Mother Nature is letting us humans know that it's time to shape up or She will ship us out. In the end planet Earth will survive...

@mrburn6119

Жыл бұрын

mans ego at its best there - mother nature does not care about us, she will do her cycles regardless

Thank you for an excellent presentation. Really good, and presented in a fair and balanced manner. But I am concerned that the general public are becoming more cynical about modelling and scientific predictions in general (hastened by the Covid fiasco). So meteorologists and oceanographers have their work cut out trying to get their message across. Keep going!

@dale2855

9 ай бұрын

You lost your credibility when you denied the pandemic and insulted all the hardship and deathes caused by real sickness and of course made much worse by the stupidity of a certain delusional political right wing fanatical cult

@thinkingtoomuch7680

4 ай бұрын

Agreed, and this citizen ennui or fear about actual scientific facts translates into giving up or joining science deniers, such as those who believe in a global conspiracy to control people’s minds.

Thanks always a great video !!

Great video! How about a video about dark aerosol (mostly tire particles) effects on melting the ice in the Arctic? Thanks!

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

I had thought it was mostly ships' diesel. Just a general assumption though, perhaps not applicable to Arctic. Never heard about the vehicle tyre rubber particles thing before.

@ru.kiddingme

Жыл бұрын

@@grindupBaker not diesel, high sulphur bunker C fuel

Great video! Well balanced and informative! Keep it up!

Wouldent a stop to these massive currents also dissrupt transport on nutrients in the ocean? Could there also be a risk that the water will beckome stagnant?

@grindupBaker

9 ай бұрын

Probably not because every time that it happened before the bigger deep current from Antarctica simply pushed further north across the equator and all the way to Greenland because the northern AMOC wasn't there to stop it. This happened 18 times during the "ice age" the Greenland AMOC weakened and the stronger deep current from Antarctica simply pushed further north across the equator and all the way to Greenland. The title of this video is moronic lying disinformation drivel because the AMOC isn't "global ocean circulation", not even close, it's only ~20% of global ocean circulation. The water that fills the ocean basins right now is at kzread.info/dash/bejne/en1_ycutadDZqtI.html at 9:01

Thank you for this clear explanation. I look forward to your future videos. Forgive my ignorance, but Please consider explaining the effects of the huge increase of cellular transmissions since the 1980's and its possible impact on the atmosphère. Has it possibly had any impact? Also would increased volcanic activity including ash particulates increase cooling? Many thanks!

Thank you for another great video! I wonder what your profession is or has been? ❤️ Thank you from the Netherlands!

@TDurden527

Жыл бұрын

Yo Netherlands . . . much love, usa.

@harrynac6017

Жыл бұрын

Tip: read the about. Groetjes ;)

@JustHaveaThink

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I am not a climate scientist. I have a BSc in Technology and I was a Project Manager before I started the channel. So I am on a journey of learning, just like most folks.

@grindupBaker

Жыл бұрын

@@JustHaveaThink We had a "Mechatronic Engineer" among our consultants (I'm retired now). They have some snazzy modern education things now. Wonder if I'm too geriatric (& lazy) to earn an Honours Degree in Twittering now Elon Musk has elevated that to the same status as electric cars and space rockets.

Your content is amazing mate!!... some of the best out there.

This is what keeps northern Europe mild in winter, if it collapsed we would experience the same conditions as in Siberia and Canada. Europeans would have to adapt to a much colder climate, you only have to study the little ice age (roughly 1500-1850) to see the effect this had on the continent with frequent severe winters, widespread crop failures caused by poor summers, which in turn caused famines, food for thought indeed.(no pun intended)

Difficult for the developing world to cope with the predicted changes when denied cheap reliable energy from fossil fuels