I can’t possibly express how thankful I am for all the support. Thank you all, each one of you. EDIT: Videos to check if you’re confused or want the receipts/see the posts here are some videos that’ve been posted: Emily Artful: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2esqqVtd9q0orQ.html Truth Sleuth: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4SXq5psp9y-e8o.html Omnia: kzread.info/dash/bejne/haiYrbismNDOnJc.html Omnia (part 2): kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioiNk5hqoJizj6g.html Hopeless Peaches: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZHutza19ic7ghrQ.html

@basshead7171

3 жыл бұрын

Take care of yourself!

@Beelze63

3 жыл бұрын

💜💚💜💚

@parallelaaa3076

3 жыл бұрын

We love you! Take care

@PennyWenny224

3 жыл бұрын

We’re here for you! If you need a break from KZread, we will all understand and support you x

@prettycringey

3 жыл бұрын

Sending love ❤️

She is all she claimed to hate.

@caittodd9288

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, she was projecting this whole time.

@MiniMeags

3 жыл бұрын

I KNOW....

@moyo6606

3 жыл бұрын

It's all so weird

@abundantlove2194

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I've found this to be true of several creators.

@XxdipstcklovrxX

3 жыл бұрын

Abundant Love - i see it in people in general. sad stuff

I remember some of her stories being about how she was a compulsive liar... guess she still struggles with that 😳

@starrymlku

3 жыл бұрын

😳

@S4Dist666

3 жыл бұрын

Oh hi Shgurr :3

@beanosupremo7455

3 жыл бұрын

I really liked her content so when things started coming out about her I didn't want to believe it. Then all this happens and there's so much evidence against her that I feel stupid for denying it the first time

@deltasaves

3 жыл бұрын

I was only casual viewer of her and imma have to second a 😳

@gloestickk

3 жыл бұрын

😳

“I believed her because she was my friend” 1. Nothing wrong with that as long as you acknowledge the truth when presented with evidence. People should be loyal to their friends. 2. She also high key manipulated you into believing her. You made a mistake of judgement that you corrected. Don’t feel guilty for someone else being awful.

@christinecannibal844

3 жыл бұрын

If I could love this comment I would. Yes. This is very important for her to realize!

@Meanie74

3 жыл бұрын

@@christinecannibal844 it’s hard when people abuse you, not to beat yourself up in retrospect. I do it often like “how could I have not seen this?” “ how could I have allowed myself to manipulated like this, I’m so stupid”. But it’s not true, I’m not stupid. I’m just a person with feelings another sick person used. And it’s that sick person at fault, not me.

@Nakia11798

3 жыл бұрын

Most people would believe their friends.

@kristinicole2055

3 жыл бұрын

This.

@ggundercover3681

3 жыл бұрын

this! as long as you accept evidence and truth when it comes out, nothing wrong with changing your position. nothing wrong with initially taking your friend's side before anything else. I'm glad you're here promoting ppl to be a good friend, but not blindly loyal.

I never liked Creep Show Art. She seemed too happy about canceling everyone else, even for petty stuff. She's in everyone else's business, telling everyone how to do it.

@pastelcherry8446

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I always had a bad feeling about her. Guess intuition is right in these cases

@chanel310the7

3 жыл бұрын

@@pastelcherry8446 Honestly I'm pretty good at pick up on that stuff and honestly, she slipped right past my radar.

@XxheymoonxX

3 жыл бұрын

ive allllways got bad vibes from her, just never could put my finger on it.

@ArcaniaSkypirateDen9516

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY I've been saying this for years. The fact that some fools actually trusted her is hilarious like how did you not see the truth?

@ArcaniaSkypirateDen9516

3 жыл бұрын

@@pastelcherry8446 My is correct as usual. I had classmates and other people who did these things. Nothing shocks me anymore.

This is all just so upsetting... 😥

@xenathornburg2416

3 жыл бұрын

It is, I feel bad for you guys who had to go through this. I remembered on one of your videos she commented on it being her favorites. That has to be be hard when the same person is doing all of this! I feel bad for Thumin, and all the others.

@rosexthermite

3 жыл бұрын

im so sorry. i know she made a video about your situation and it must hurt knowing the person who tried to help you is actually really shitty.

@yukinishi7633

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. I wasn't expecting this at all honestly

@hchozn

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that she helped a black woman like you, but she's incredibly racist...

@FubblerCo.

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Thumin, how've you been? I know all of this can be really tough but I just wanna know if you're alright

The roses were definitely a tactic to manipulate you into defending her when this all came out. Shannon is terrifying and needs serious, consistent, prolonged psychological help.

@blushface

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@justjulia8007

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@noko8692

3 жыл бұрын

not to defend shannon, but i don"t think so. She'd have to send this in advance, how would she even know she'd get exposed ? I think it was just a part of her acting like they're "bestieeeees

@313eve

3 жыл бұрын

@@noko8692 It was just a coupe of days before and she may have suspected it was going to happen because people were talking about it on lolcow, she caught wind of it.

@deltasaves

3 жыл бұрын

@@noko8692 it's a buffer. People like this will butter you up every now and again a bit more. Also flowers wouldn't take too long to send, maybe a few days. She probably knew people were going to start talking and sending screens to those mentioned. Edit: not pepe, my Lord. I need to fix my autocorrect for that one. And my punctuation.

One of the most disturbing parts of this is that she sent you roses, knowing exactly what she’d done behind your back. It almost as if she gets off on it ..

@mcdepressionwithlargefries5313

3 жыл бұрын

people are snakes. doesn’t surprise me. especially with someone like creepshow.

@charlottesmom

3 жыл бұрын

That was severely twisted!

@rabbitttz

3 жыл бұрын

From what I gathered from the Emily video yeah she does get off on it.

@laevan2053

3 жыл бұрын

Like when a bad partner cheats or beats, and then gives flowers like they make it all better. Blech.

@realswobby

3 жыл бұрын

@@laevan2053 Partially they really believe or they try to believe that this is a good behavior and they truly fix things in this way... while in reality it's just a manipulation. They even fool themselves in their own minds :ppp Watching some videos about sadistic/narcissistic personality really opens eyes.

Changing her profile pic to her younger self is so blatantly manipulative...

@catherineward4793

3 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of when Shane Dawson changed his profile pic after he was canceled

@dearfauxpas

3 жыл бұрын

oh tbh i thought that was just a random picture of a child

@lvl10cooking

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mind explaining? I am not doubting you, just want to know the how and why.

@luxlox9029

3 жыл бұрын

@@lvl10cooking I think it’s because of a few things :) 1. it’s basically making you see her as fully rounded person, this isn’t just ‘creepshow art’ who has done all these terrible things and come close to absolutely ruining someones life, this is a girl who has a family, a childhood, a full life - even though none of that negates horrible actions done in adulthood, it can evoke empathy in some people and make it hard for you to just see her as a horrible, manipulative creator 2. Children represent innocence, if you look at pictures of (just for an example) killers as children, you’ll find it hard to see how they could grow into a person that could commit such terrible, depraved acts. If when you go into Shannon’s profile, ready to unfollow or write a message about how terrible you think she is, if you’re met with a child version of herself before you do so, you may start double-thinking and maybe not actually going ahead with what you planned to do Basically, She’s manipulating you through the last Avenue she has - the fact that she’s ‘just a young girl’ -, and probably someone most of you used to like and empathise with, in order to try and escape the inevitable backfire. I really don’t think it’s working at all though, like nice try but, I think she’s finally going to have consequences for her terrorising actions

@caprisunlover4732

3 жыл бұрын

@@luxlox9029 I agree

Imagine having someone publicly bash you and be exposed for heinous shit and you're still the bigger person enough to check in on them. Damn if thats not humanity.

@stephandthecity

3 жыл бұрын

LOVE. THIS.

@yuki97kira

3 жыл бұрын

I hope she felt shame in that

@solala1312

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I would have done it, even though it's the right thing to do.

@Catglittercrafts

3 жыл бұрын

@@solala1312 Giulia is better than most of us

@riali499

3 жыл бұрын

@@yuki97kira That Shannon (CSA) felt shame, right?

I’m so sorry. Sending you love. 💛

@meag_ken822

3 жыл бұрын

💙💙💙

@whitneypanda

3 жыл бұрын

Can you guys become best friends, bonding over having trash friends?

@SketchingWithSarah

3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing all these KZreadrs supporting through this tough situation 🖤

@zakiatabassum9549

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jessi, you're amazing ❤️ sending you lots of love as well

@msrustyspatula8679

3 жыл бұрын

Jessi, I hope you're hanging in there! I'm so happy for you about the 🌈 baby and I hope you realize how much happiness you deserve. You truly seem like one of the good ones (youtubers lol), never stop being you 💖

Remember that 'Storytime' where Shannon claimed that she overheard some girls talking about her at a Starbucks or something, but they ended up trashing her and laughing at how bad her channel is? Well if that was real those girls knew what was up lol

@miathompson4440

3 жыл бұрын

This sounds like an “and everyone clapped” story 😭😭 like her channel is NOT that big for people to just talk about her at a Starbucks???

@aestheticlife9701

3 жыл бұрын

@@miathompson4440 literally ain’t nobody at Starbucks talkin bout her channel honey you are not That big 😂

@Tombbistol

3 жыл бұрын

That might be a “ reversed narrative “ situation judging by her stalker story , she might be the one trash talking someone else’s channel then shift the narrative pretend to be a victim to gain sympathy.

@eeeeeeeeeeeee9651

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tombbistol And knowing all the shit she has done, that would a) be possible and b) be probably one of the mildest things she has done, if it happens to true 💀 This woman needs to get her head checked asap and thrown into a jail cell.

@skyskynomnom4674

2 жыл бұрын

Let’s be honest, though. She made that shit up.

And she would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for those meddling LOLcow admins.

@zeyna4

3 жыл бұрын

Scooby Doo 😂 nice one

@keeshy

3 жыл бұрын

I was gonna upvote but then I saw you have the perfect amount of 420 upvotes

@SherrhondasAse

3 жыл бұрын

I’m literally watching scooby doo right now 🤣

@W1ldTangent

3 жыл бұрын

Don't piss on a sysadmin and tell 'em it's rain. We have plenty of time and coffee to sift through logs if we take a break from Reddit and YT.

@tiffanyraykrueger8621

2 жыл бұрын

*In Scoobs* Good one Shaggy!

A moment of appreciation for the admin(s) who confirmed all this. If not for them, Shannon's lies wouldn't have come to light this quickly and the situation would be 20 times worse. I hope you know that you have no commitment that is bigger than taking as many or as long of breaks as you possibly need to start healing and coming to terms.

@READYTOGLARE

3 жыл бұрын

Many props to the admins !!

@moykurs

3 жыл бұрын

this!!! thank you admins for exposing her for who she really is

@RedEzelt

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly the coolest admins.

3 жыл бұрын

They'd allegedly had their suspicions building for YEARS, but had just reached their limit of tolerating her nonsense, and one or a few of the admins on there just assembled this dossier on Shannon.

@oliverxhmll

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedEzelt bruh yeah they exposed her, but I wouldn't thank the admins because the shit that gets posted on that website is crazy and vile. They only exposed her because she broke their own rules about self-promoting.

Sending your victim flowers. That’s a real psychopath vibe.

@XOChristianaNicole

3 жыл бұрын

As One who is working on getting an anti-social personality (aka the informal “psychopath”) diagnosis.. This isn’t just straight psychopathy - there is narcissism tied into this. Psychopaths aren’t mutually exclusive to narcissism. Just as narcissism isn’t mutually exclusive to sociopathy. Sure, we may have difficulty with empathy. However, not all psychopaths are liars who lack a moral code. Sure, we plot and scheme - and get off in it - though, not everyone does it, in the manner to purposefully hurt others. I have no problem with social climbers - as long as it’s done with mutual integrity and respect. I don’t develop many emotional attachments and I use everyone to learn my own life lessons; though - I appreciate everyone I have connected with, on the levels I am able. Sure, I use that relationship for my own benefit. However, I purposefully look for how it could be mutually beneficial. So, for an autist psychopath, like me - I think like one; though, it’s used in a virtuous manner. I mean, what good would it do for me to do shitty things, in the end? How is that a sustainable life? Obviously, as Shannon has proved - it isn’t. Though, I’d like to say.. I’ve know men who’ve done this sort of thing out of emotional rage and jealousy - plotting and scheming to hurt someone. I don’t believe he was a psychopath. Sometimes people do bad very bad things - who don’t have a personality disorder. So, just something to, please, consider - when attempting to label people who do awful things, to others. Not everyone who may fall under that label, medically speaking - are even willing to ever to such awful things. Such awful things, to which - every person on the planet, holds the capacity to do, if ever pushed to it. 😉

@ac-fp9lx

3 жыл бұрын

@@XOChristianaNicole why would you seek that diagnosis

@Alex-fc8xn

3 жыл бұрын

@@ac-fp9lx why does anyone seek any diagnosis? To get support for it, obviously. Feeling numb to emotions and struggling to form interpersonal bonds can't be fun to deal with and I'd want support if I went through that

@Alex-fc8xn

3 жыл бұрын

@@ac-fp9lx also people say this to me about seeking an autism assessment. It's to access resources designed to help you, and to finally have confirmation and an explanation for why you've always felt different from most people you know. Not knowing is tough.

@ac-fp9lx

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-fc8xn that's true but autism itself covers a lot of those symptoms already which is why I ask.

Jesus, how many people this woman hurt? The algorithm is constantly suggesting new videos

@iamevilyss

3 жыл бұрын

She did Hopeless Peaches DIRTY! And a lot of youtubers went against her with no evidence. Just rumors all credits from 3 people who lied about her all three have allegations rn too

@maikonpagani1222

3 жыл бұрын

@@iamevilyss from what I heard, Emily Artful was the one who suffered more in the hands of Creep shows Art

@MamaMidnight98

3 жыл бұрын

Her entire thing WAS hurting people.

@thatonepairofuglysocks1342

3 жыл бұрын

@@MamaMidnight98 Yep, she absolutely thrived off doing that twisted nonsense. Shannon & her partner need to go to prison asap, they're a danger to others.

@Deenique16

3 жыл бұрын

Same omg

Sending you lots of love ❤️

@ela536

3 жыл бұрын

Ily Roly

@LightingCatxD

3 жыл бұрын

After watching this video it kinda sounds really sarcastic to me idk why

@PenelopeIsAce

3 жыл бұрын

hi roly

@pervysueno7749

3 жыл бұрын

Ayyyyo my nicca Roly Fingas!!!! What's poppenin' bluh?

@GeorgeFloydSupport

2 жыл бұрын

please make and onlyfans

I just saw Emily Artful's video on cheepshow art and it genuinely made me physically sick. I can't believe people are capable of being so atrocious and harmful to other people for so long without being held accountable, and without feeling the slightest pain in their conscious to make it stop.

@snoox27

3 жыл бұрын

Im glad this has come all out into the open. Im hoping emily can heal from the stalking, knowing whos doing it and having others know gives you some power back.

@Willowtree82

3 жыл бұрын

Shannon's always been a bully and the fact people are acting surprised now shows me how fake youtube has become. Emily is no angel either.

@rosannaberckley5515

3 жыл бұрын

Did you draw your pfp?

@005Amergin

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a narcissist- they have no remorse.

@Rightinfrontofmydietdoctorkelp

3 жыл бұрын

@@Willowtree82 And how exactly is Emily no angel? Not everyone is perfect in what they choose to do but when you go the extra mile to RUIN someone's life like Shannon did, Emily did NOT deserve that. No one would've known Shannon was a nasty and terrible person if these things didn't come to light.

Chrissy Teigen: *builds a career on having connections in high places, all while spreading cruel messages about her peers* CreepShow Art: Write that down, write that down!

@rwalkman10

3 жыл бұрын

Chrissy Teigens pizzagate tweets :^/ But yeah she's also very mean

@JessRodr

3 жыл бұрын

This 💯👏👏👏

@nomanejane5766

3 жыл бұрын

Courtney sodden wasn't her peer, the fck u talking abt? plus nasty tweets, isn't even in the same as Shannon did. they both did bad things, just very differently

@AliciaM5555

3 жыл бұрын

YES!!!!! WELL SAID AND EXACTLY THE SAME CASE!

@gio_graphy

3 жыл бұрын

Ive seen you in all of the Creepshow Art comment sections (And maybe the Frenemies one too?) and they are ALL great comments lol

She lied to you, fooled you, mislead you, abused your intelligence and honestly, sending you roses is her sick way of making HERSELF feel better. I am so sorry you experienced this!

@MandieTerrier

3 жыл бұрын

Or a way of letting her know, I know where you live.

@Major003

3 жыл бұрын

@m@mickeysminimouses & @Ordinary Girl Trying to be Fabulous - You're both right, and I hate that. Not because you've correctly assessed the situation, but that the assessment is that someone has truly horrible character. 😰

@josevides4665

3 жыл бұрын

She does the same thing to other ppl tho

The IP spoofing is less than "incredibly unlikely" - it's next to impossible, even for a pro hacker. A hacker can spoof an IP address for a DDoS, but they cannot spoof an IP address to connect to a webpage and, for example, post a comment. They would have to control two different routers that would require specific knowledge of the target server and the REAL version of the IP address they want to spoof. This is due to the TCP handshake, which is the server checking that a computer is opening a connection, and the computer saying "yes, I started this connection and wish to continue." Computer connects to server. It sends a specific set of data. This is initiating the handshake. Server receives the data, and then sends another set back to the computer. Computer sends another set of data to the server. THEN things like loading a webpage or logging into a service happen. What happens if someone spoofs an IP address? Computer connects to server, using a spoofed IP. It sends a data packet. Server sends a data packet to the machine with the IP address that was spoofed. The machine doesn't send a response since it didn't initiate the handshake. The connection ends.

@gregjayonnaise8314

3 жыл бұрын

There is also the fact that, if we are to believe “Amy” did spoof the IP, that would mean she’d been doing all of what you described for at least THREE years. After all, Shannon was only caught a few months ago and was active on Lolcow for a while. Why would “Amy” fake an IP for such a long period of time and only get herself revealed after a few years to make Shannon look bad? How could she have known someone would track the IP? Basically, “Amy” would not only have to be a really good hacker, but a really timely and manipulative one too.

@Snoogen11

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, this information is useful both in this situation and others, good on you for helping to educating people :)

@W1ldTangent

3 жыл бұрын

Yep this hacker nonsense is just incredulous on every level. Even nation-state hackers often slip-up their OpSec at some point over that long of a period, and there's no goddamned way she's that good even if she *could* pull it off (which we both know is almost impossible to do _once_ let alone 300 times).

@grundierungtaglich6241

3 жыл бұрын

In 4chan, people had used my IP and got me banned multiple times. In the ban reason says the cause and none of them were me.

@rubikx6097

2 жыл бұрын

Yea this argument only works against people who have no clue about it

I hope you're doing okay

@Brodie3K

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, you watch too?? Glad 2 of my favorite creators are so close.

@rabbit__

3 жыл бұрын

You're the fourth KZreadr I've seen in the comments. The site's really not okay with this shit, damn.

@grandmasterpax3248

3 жыл бұрын

hi cuestar! didn't expect to see you here. i hope shes alright too.

@caseysheaves1323

3 жыл бұрын

You are cool af and really appreciate you supporting RTG, who i love too

@abikristina1124

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit its Cue

Shannon's silence is all the confirmation i need. Emily's story is true, Glares is true, i just can't believe it. someone i watched, enjoyed, supported... completely vile.

@aliciazombie8699

3 жыл бұрын

Hasn't shannon even said if KZreadrs are quiet, they're guilty? I could be wrong tho

@Bee-gc2do

3 жыл бұрын

I feel ya, I was watching her for awhile until recently I was avoiding her videos because her energy seemed...off but I didn't have any real reasoning as to why. she's very good at manipulation, it's scary. I'm glad lolcow exposed her before she reached more sucess. People like that deserve the fortune she's had

@SGT676

3 жыл бұрын

Im not surprised by this. She came off as an overly preachy folk. And after seeing dramas in the past I find people like that always have some awful secret. And i don't know why but after bit something just told me "Shes going to get exposed for something later on."

@leonardoives674

3 жыл бұрын

Its infuriating how many people she fooled with her fake sweetness.

@autisticwatermelon8633

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bee-gc2do Same! I used to watch her pretty consistently but stopped in recent months. I couldn't really figure out why, but something felt off to me too.

The fact that you STILL checked in with Shannon even after all of the stuff she did speaks volumes about how nice of a person you are. I hope you feel better about all of this soon

the sad part about betrayal is it never comes from a stranger

@melissamoonchild9216

3 жыл бұрын

well by the very nature of betrayal it has to come from someone close

@Silenceeify

Жыл бұрын

No way!!??

She hasn’t spoken up to defend herself so I think that says a lot

@Flame44

3 жыл бұрын

Once no one believed her hijacked IP address…. What more could she say? “ wasn’t herself, mental illness…..”?? . But this is really deep, pathetic, serious issues dealing w so many people. Scary!!

@orlalolo4585

3 жыл бұрын

The fact she,s deleting lot her stuff says a lot , I did watch her channel but I've unsubbed after hearing what she done to that lady and other ppl ,

@hannahshark8080

3 жыл бұрын

She needs more time to formulate excuses lol. Ugh this is such an awful situation

@shart8008

3 жыл бұрын

After emily artful's vid, i dont think she'll ever come back 😩

@mewbunnies8822

3 жыл бұрын

She’s probably being advised by legal counsel to stay quiet. KZread drama is one thing, but she allegedly stalked and harassed Emily Artful for a decade. (Saying allegedly for legal reasons. Emily’s video has quite a bit of proof in it.)

Sending you love ❤️

@jadefrancescaepperson3124

3 жыл бұрын

We all do love you Glare! Sorry this shit happened.

@LilKingler

3 жыл бұрын

lots of queens in this comment section supporting Giulia 🙏💛

@shibuyes

3 жыл бұрын

stephanie!!

@Larissabepressed

3 жыл бұрын

Everybody I have spoken to has said the same thing about you Giulia...that you're such a genuinely kind person and you didn't deserve this at all. You have a lot of support and people who care about you. Losing a friendship in this way is very hard and I hope you're able to heal and process this asap💜

@tq999

3 жыл бұрын

My girl Stephanie is in the house!!

As someone who had been a fan of Shannon for a while I’m flabbergasted. I’m a Junior in high school now and have been watching Shannon’s videos and following her art for as long as I’ve been on the internet. I cant believe that this person who I’ve kind of looked up to for such a long time could turn out to be such a shitty person. Seriously disappointed. I’m sending my love and prayers out to you and Emily! You guys never deserved this.

@jeishiikanzaki

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, take it as a lesson that the internet personalities - any celebrities really - are never who you think you see. Even the ones who try and be more down to earth and authentic are still performing a role. We develop these parasocial relationships where we think we know them, but we really don't.

@madmouse1016

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, main reason I liked Shannon was because her personality reminded me a lot of my close friend, but even that close friend of mines didn't really like her. Then all of this came out and I just dunno what to think ...

@jdhebdndjejwj1310

3 жыл бұрын

same, im a junior and have been watching her for like a year. im not even sad, just angry. i dont understand how people can do shit like this.

@fatimazafar4200

3 жыл бұрын

tbf there's been a lot other stuff going on already, people had been trying to cancel her since like 2015-2016, just around 6 or 7 moths age when hopeless peaches POV on her situation got out people started to actually try and get her to apologize abt it, and became more aware, them Emily and Glare as of recently and FINALLY she's done here, she was always bad and sketchy even to her viewers I think just ppl never noticed it bc she was sorta obv manipulating her audience, I was like that too till 2016 which was when her vids got more.. controversial

@MegaMadMuffin

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not even her art, she, apparently with consent, takes smaller artists work and supposedly tags them in the description or smth, but doesn’t mention them in her videos in any other way

I'm so sorry this had happened. You have all my love and respect 💚

@bobatea1950

3 жыл бұрын

Awww Vanna you're so caring

@FreshNews247

3 жыл бұрын

What happened? Or is it in the video?

@Leecarterr

3 жыл бұрын

@@FreshNews247 check pinned comment

@SPACESTATIONLEVEL7

3 жыл бұрын

VANNA YOUR SO SWEET

Really sorry you went through this. This really fuckin' sucks. You're such a good person and genuine soul. This sucks.

@stupiid13

3 жыл бұрын

💕💕I am loving the support going on here!! I love both of yall

@BuddleDuddle

3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing my favorite creators supporting each other. Love your work Kat!

@chanio3856

3 жыл бұрын

True

@LuckyOrangeTabby08

3 жыл бұрын

Queen Kat is here. ❤️🍓

@rydz656

3 жыл бұрын

Grow up

She hates herself and seems to be taking it out on everybody. Something is clearly wrong with this woman.

@ajaku

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I know when I was younger and my self esteem was in Hades I spent a lot of time on forums like that too...never promoted myself or talked crap about my friends there though! She really does need help

@clivebixby206

3 жыл бұрын

@@ajaku the fact that she was willing to stalk and harass Emily out of jealousy is so pathetic it's almost funny. Oh and did i mention she's in possession of cp. And she also goes out of her way to protect her rap1st husband so yeah pretty shitty eh

@djmarz7123

3 жыл бұрын

@@clivebixby206 Wait what, okay I haven't heard of that, do you know where you heard this from (about the CP and the rapist husband)?

@magdalenabentkowska3734

3 жыл бұрын

@@djmarz7123 Emily Artful posted a 2h long video talking about her stalker and showing receipts - it is allegedly about Shannon's husband and Shannon herself

@sarahbarabe8470

3 жыл бұрын

I mean she's on another level of self hate I struggle with self esteem and depression and I know so many other people inside the same boat and we ain't like that she must have gone a long ass time without help for her behavior to become so deteriorated and progress soooooo far

Just knowing what she did to Emily Artful, and her supposed “friends”. It’s safe to say she’s trash 🤡 Imagine stalking someone for almost a decade because they dated your ex before you.

@PumaArg

3 жыл бұрын

May I ask you what she did to her? I couldn't watch the video because it had a SA trigger warning, but I'd like to vaguely know

@cherrybombrose3532

3 жыл бұрын

@@PumaArg So Emily was with an abusive ex and when they finally ended it, Shannon ended up dating her ex. Emily was pretty sure he was cheating with Shannon already but had no proof of it. It’s a lot here but they hacked her fb, threatened to send her nudes (even her underage ones), and stalked her for over 8 years. Threatened her and her family, called her a bunch of names under socket accounts, etc. There’s so much more and that’s a brief summary so oof

@headerahelix

3 жыл бұрын

@@PumaArg Creepshow has been silently seething for 12 years because her boyfriend (people say they aren't really married but I have no idea) is still obsessed with Emily Artful. Creepshow's entire KZread channel and identity seems to be modelled after Emily. It seems to be the reason she even created her channel was to mess with Emily, as they'd been following her around and getting her fired from everywhere.

@beewest5704

3 жыл бұрын

How much time do they have on their hands to spend so much trying to destroy someone & harass them. This is insane. They are going to kill someone someday.

@nahbirdie4773

3 жыл бұрын

@@PumaArg and then on top of that, creepshow came out talking about someone named amy stalking her, describing and using the experience for herself. Like as if she was pretending or fantasising that she was emily 🙄 she even talked n bitched about emily and spread lies like she tried to kill her own child or something. Just ridiculous things. she also befriended emily in such weird ways and was super nice to her. I think the emily experience is the CORE of this whole thing. She seems unhealthily obsessed with emily either in hate or in love, or both, she's gotten her fired from jobs before and she's made her life hell. Emily has wasted so much money on private investigators, therapy and all around its just.. It's too much. Also, i think the SA part is mentioned only a couple of times. Not in long detail at least i can check back to reconfirm that. And perhaps if you'd like, i can give you markers where to skip. Or someone else could help me with that because its 2 hours long. Or if you'd like, reply back if you want to know what it is, in a very brief sentence, to determine if you'd want to still watch the video or not. If not that's okay :))) whatever keeps u comfortable. I might watch the condensed video too (to sent my boyfriend lol) so i can see if its mentioned less there or not idk.

Can’t help but wonder.. if she actually used one of those VPN company’s she pushed, she wouldn’t have got caught

@rachelannapolaro8969

3 жыл бұрын

Omfg 😭😭☠☠

@tupacisalive1236

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao that’s pretty ironic,I guess whatever is done in the dark comes to light

@sisselhelennikolaisen510

3 жыл бұрын

People get get trough a VPN in 30 minutes.

@shilpanair4657

3 жыл бұрын

@@sisselhelennikolaisen510 oh shit do they?

@mirrepoix

3 жыл бұрын

even when your IP changes your browser cookies don't, unless you erase them regularly. any website that stores cookies has a unique profile on you that documents every time you've been there, what your browser and IP was when you visited, and what device you used. this is what allows websites to remember that you've logged in before so that you don't have to log in again, and tailor recommendations and ads to you. the lolcow admins used this cookie information to immediately debunk her claim that her IP was spoofed, because they had her history going back YEARS, across multiple devices.

Honestly whenever she says stuff like “I love my friends and would do ANYTHING for them, you guys know that! Anyway (shouts out some creator really sicky-sweetly)” it has the same energy as Shane Dawson saying “I’m such an eMpAtH”

@katelynnshadoan

3 жыл бұрын

Omg I never thought about this 😭 I just thought Shannon was being a good person ugh I hate this

@onthewall7

3 жыл бұрын

Vulnerable narcissistic behavior has its roots in the false belief that everyone cares about their problems and are willing to drop everything they're doing to "help" them. Also, that people will believe what they say at face value. When these lofty expectations are shattered, they might act out even worse. I hope that isn't the case here.

@OrganicTrash

3 жыл бұрын

Shannon Dawson ey?

@utubeagnesia

3 жыл бұрын

Merge the name Shane and Dawson you kinda get a Shannon. 😳😂

@sealestial1801

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure this action is called lovebombing and it's a form of manipulation.

I have so much respect for how you handled this. Your perspective has been so helpful and I am so sorry you are going through this. It's a shocking situation.

@keepitmoving5340

3 жыл бұрын

Love you Emily

@bobbi5355

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Emily!❤️

@loriburnip

3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see you do a show about cyberstalking and what people can do legally about it.

@keely1368

3 жыл бұрын

I feel for you too Emily, you seemed to have a good friendship with her too. I was thinking about you when i saw the Emily art video. I feel for anyone who has been betrayed by her, it’s a horrible experience, worse than the breakup with a bf/gf imo

@bobbi5355

3 жыл бұрын

@@keely1368 omg i forgot they were friends! Damn that sucks 😓

This makes Creep an even bigger Creep. I feel bad for everyone who is caught the wake of her being a trash human. Like did she really think noone would ever find out?!?

@marlenathorvald

3 жыл бұрын

She did...I got into it with her over a year ago because she's a trash person and pretty much everyone took her side and she thought that would happen forever and for a while it did everyone took her side on everything for years

@WhitneyDahlin

3 жыл бұрын

I truly believe she's a sociopath. She can't hold herself back from hurting others it just brings her so much happiness. She went out of her way to pretend to be people's friends and be best friends with these people for years while also harassing and slandering them on line for years. She gets off on hurting other people. She can't control herself it just brings her so much joy and pleasure to see others suffering. I truly believe she's a sociopath and that she didn't care if she ever got caught or not. She probably got arrogant enough at one point to believe she was untouchable but in the end she just wanted to see others suffer too much to not take the risk. I am normally very against cancel culture but I think we all have more than enough evidence in this case to know for sure this person is a terrible person and does not deserve the career they've been given. Shannon can go back to living in her car. I always wondered why her family and friends didn't help her when she was homeless and now I know. She's such a sociopath her own family doesn't even want her around.

I could tell she was a mess. She went from an art channel to basically keemstar in a matter of months, because it was boosting her views.

@RJ-sd6uc

3 жыл бұрын

KARMA did her so good. This is what hapoen when mix art and try to cancel other ppl

Creepshow: "Draw your last pathetic art piece Emily!" Emily: "I have no pathetic art pieces but I do have the unstoppable receipts!"

@carlycrays2831

3 жыл бұрын

All hail the receipts!

@NeloBladeOfRanni

3 жыл бұрын

That's a insult to kaiba

@Sasygigikitty

3 жыл бұрын

Kaiba doesn't deserve to be her, at least he had good qualities unlike her! 😤

@xenathornburg2416

3 жыл бұрын

I don't get how a person like Shannon who draws disproportionate and messy art has the Audacity to tell some one, like Emily with god like skills, that her art is pathetic.

@Tara........

3 жыл бұрын

@@xenathornburg2416 It's jealousy; the kind that became so obsessive that Shannon stalked Emily for years. It's incredibly sick.

I hate this because how will you be able to trust another new “friend” ever again? You fight enough with your personal struggles as it is. I’m soo sorry babe.

@abbie_joan

3 жыл бұрын

im noticing a pattern in Shannon taking advantage of friends who clearly struggle with personal issues and befriending them or getting connected through someone else to attack them

@anae7135

3 жыл бұрын

@@abbie_joan it’s very predatory. I feel so bad for RTG.

@justinejustice_league1857

3 жыл бұрын

Facts, we worry about not finding "the one" but it's the friendships that hurt the most as they know you more than anyone. Friendships run deeper than relationships for sure.

@Ambir91

3 жыл бұрын

This really depresses me. I remember going on youtube years ago and people were doing fun collabs and their audiences were smaller so we really felt like a small family. Now a bunch of big youtubers turning out to be awful i think hurt not only the direct victims, but us the subscribers. So many youtubers i used to watch regurlarly just turned out to be so disgusting and it really affected me. I wonder, what would be of this new generation where their fave creators will desappoint them over and over...? Without the authorities giving victims justice. This is so sad.

@wmhfv992

3 жыл бұрын

It's just awful. I've had a similar experience with a friend but not on a public platform. But it is really so hard to trust new people again. I can't imagine how RTG feels.

I had never heard of lolcow before this, I just checked it out. what a disgusting horrifying corner of the internet

@nahbirdie4773

3 жыл бұрын

Same! But fitting now that shannon spent most of her time there, even on multiple accounts.

@smilesxo06

3 жыл бұрын

I still don't see the point of it

@morgan5066

3 жыл бұрын

i haven’t brought myself to check it out and i hope i never do. you’re a much braver person than me for looking at it

@maggotscave9345

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t figure that page out 👁👁 maybe for the best huh

@nameofthename

3 жыл бұрын

it's pretty much just 4chan imo

Friendship heartbreak like this to me is more upsetting than any relationship break up or heartbreak I've had. I just want to hug her.

@jeanpaleo490

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, for me relationships ending is inevitable because I only want to be with one person in the long run (I'm not sure how this might be different if I wanted an open relationship), but friendships never HAVE to come to an end, so it just hurts so much more when it happens

Just imagine the sheer dumpster fire that CreepShow Art and Gabbie Hanna could have ignited had they formed an alliance of sorts years ago. However, fortunately for everyone, their shared trait of jealousy of others who are succeeding would eventually get in the way and lead them to stab each other’s backs.

@rayykk7209

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think anyone wants to imagine that 😐

@shmell918

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimthecactus7425 oh god they’re friends??

@shan5576

3 жыл бұрын

@@shmell918 Yep. She has publically defended her on many occasions. It's also believed she made fake accounts to attack people like Hellolesh

@bellezanegra0206

3 жыл бұрын

But they DID form an alliance. They are just too busy being individual dumpster fires to use their evil for good.

@bellezanegra0206

3 жыл бұрын

@@shmell918 umm yeah. CSA has come under fire for not calling out GH. That happened right before this drama

If any random commenters here are not aware, please look into Emily Artful's experience with Shannon She seems much much worse than just lolcow posts

@myfacade6107

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching Emily since the beginning and this broke my heart, the way Shannon treated her was absolutely disgusting

@ddjsoyenby

3 жыл бұрын

yeah.

@rabbit__

3 жыл бұрын

The tone of her video was so much more authentic than Shannon's.

@nightmarefanatic1819

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we're dealing with straight up crimes here

@kellyannecoll

3 жыл бұрын

Emily’s video was shocking, and I’m honestly pretty worried for Shannon now. Hearing about Shannon’s husband’s involvement makes this all so much weirder and scarier.

“Be aware, Shannon has been deleting my comments about the following: she recently deleted the videos “I’m A Narcissist” “My Ex Boyfriend Found My Channel” “RuPaul Stole My Idea”. I commented that the reason she’s deleted those videos, is because in them she mentioned Amy The Stalker, and lies about the nonexistent Amy in those videos, contradict her current drivel on the community tab. BE WARNED. The fact that she deleted my comments about this makes me think she’s busy concocting the next chapter of this nonsense. Please don’t be manipulated. Thanks for reading x” credits to ND spread the word yall

@nightmare9597

3 жыл бұрын

I just watched the rupaul stole my idea video and she dosen't mention amy, or anyone else. She does however mention a lot of things about emily indirectly in the I'm a narcissist video. Not gonna bother with the other one.

@creatrixcorvusarts876

3 жыл бұрын

Why does this exact quote keep getting copied and pasted on ALL the videos covering this topic? By different accounts?

@nicollepedraza7572

3 жыл бұрын

Hhkfksa

@Prettymapleleaf

3 жыл бұрын

@@creatrixcorvusarts876 I’m super curious about this too…

@amycecilia8892

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's creep show on a sock puppet account in a last attempt effort to get views on the mentioned videos to cash out.. Just a theory.

Why do so many creators fuck up in such a bad way, like really fucking bad, how is it so hard for them to be a basic human being, i also wish you the best Giulia, this is just bad damn

@RJ-sd6uc

3 жыл бұрын

KARMA!!! This is what happens when Creepshow Art is all avout cancel culture.

@zasherakhan6957

3 жыл бұрын

They have too much time

@veiiee

3 жыл бұрын

@@RJ-sd6uc ikr, when that’s all you talk about you’re going to gain those kind of fans and subscribers. It would make sense that she was cancelled this bad, but she honestly had it coming.

@RJ-sd6uc

3 жыл бұрын

@@veiiee you know what funny most of this commentary/drama channel always portrayed themself as a good person and the gate keeper who is good or bad these ppl that she talks about need to do better , need to apologies, take accountability, behaviour is not acceptable, should not have a platforms and so on. She just did all the above when making her video Art+Drama.. She should focus on Creating Art but instead she go and Create Fake Acc 😂

@lisadgingersnaps9843

3 жыл бұрын

This is why, I think, a lot of KZread creators don't become friends with others in the community.

Beautifully said 💜

10:29 I relate to that strange feeling of confusion when a “friend” does something like this.. The roses were sent so she could maintain your perception of her as a “caring friend” and also simultaneously try to make you doubt the evidence. She’s fake, manipulative, and insecure.

@duckie4655

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It’s like a bribe.

@brooke7063

3 жыл бұрын

Ariel? Is that your name?

@nightynightshade

3 жыл бұрын

@@brooke7063 I wish that was my name! My name is Desiree☺️

@ocinidolegna

3 жыл бұрын

@@nightynightshade that's a gorgeous name :')

@CountessJJ

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not defending her, but maybe she did care. Creep can't be all bad, I hope she gets help, and stops hurting people.

After everything that has come out about her and Emily, it’s clear to me that she invented the “Amy” character and story so that if she ever got backed into a corner she could “come out” and name Emily as “her stalker”. I’m so glad Emily beat her to the punch and told her story before that could happen.

@crystalb4178

2 жыл бұрын

I think she invented the story so she could discredit Emily\make it look like Emily copied her story if Emily decided to publicly talk about being stalked.

I hate to be that guy but: there’s always a bright side. Here, you no longer have a horrible, fake, toxic person in your life. Keep your head up!! And she’ll eventually get what’s coming for her :)

@Whoareyoupeople900

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you hate to be the person who talks positively lol. That's a good thing!

@RumbleRish

3 жыл бұрын

@@Whoareyoupeople900 Lol idk some people get annoyed with that because they want their time to just be sad ya know?

@kaedesghost3123

3 жыл бұрын

It may feel sarcastic or insensitive to put out optimism, but adding a little optimism to the situation doesn't hurt.

@atanaZion

2 жыл бұрын

Did she stop tho??

@WhenYourNumbersUp

5 ай бұрын

@@RumbleRishIt's one of those there's a time and a place kind of moments. And sometimes it's viewed as toxic positivity and it puts pressure on people to look on the bright side when they're struggling. But, I also know and understand that a good portion of the time, it comes from a good place ❤

The fact that you weren’t shit talking and dogging her this whole video just shows how much better you are than her! Take that high road sis! the view is better up there anyway!

@pastel_gardens9896

3 жыл бұрын

Your pfp is super cute 🥰

@justajeepgirlandherdogs

3 жыл бұрын

and a lot less traffic

@marlenekirkham5736

3 жыл бұрын

#this

You can see the hurt to Giulia the person, not just to the "Ready to Glare" persona.

Major respect for checking in on her even though your feelings were hurt. That's really admirable.

"Nobody deserves to hurt themselves" And nobody deserves to get stalked and harassed for the better part of a decade but look where we are. :/

@betssylopez5895

3 жыл бұрын

i thought she was just shit talking ppl wtf

@basshead7171

3 жыл бұрын

@@betssylopez5895 apparently in addition to shit talking ppl and communities, she & her partner obsessively stalked another content creator for over 10 years. Some really disturbing ways of harassing & threatening them

@helloworld2784

3 жыл бұрын

@@basshead7171 They're disturbing and people forget that they're just not evil, they're CRIMINALS TOO.

@kiddo6925

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure readytoglare didnt know shannon was stalking at the time.

@snewdraws112

3 жыл бұрын

hey no need to victim blame here, she was confused and processing being betrayed by a friend. she likely didn't know anything about shannon stalking people otherwise she wouldn't have been soft with her.

actually cancelled dinner to watch this

@ShawtySurelyTrifling

3 жыл бұрын

Make sure to eat though. Much love x

@DameVonBonDaisy

3 жыл бұрын

Worth it

@stratosphere94

3 жыл бұрын

Eat & watch ❤️

@Bonnie-lo3zh

3 жыл бұрын

Postponed making crepes to watch this 💀😂

@Monorakun

3 жыл бұрын

Eu, didn't expected u here Tora

It sucks already when you have trust issues and people do things like this to you. I’m so so sorry.

@silentfriend369

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It takes a lot to trust again after being hurt by others.

@commentbot9510

3 жыл бұрын

It only reassures you that people can’t be trusted

@vip5hawol

3 жыл бұрын

@@commentbot9510 Exactlyy smfh

@KH-ou6ex

3 жыл бұрын

Reason why I have literally one friend lol. I have major trust issues 😕

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time", -Maya Angelou Chin up, I know it sucks but we got you.

Not your fault. I originally thought CSA was just a little bit catty, but her being a Keemstar fan and being super toxic is why I believe you and Emily.

@VisciousMistress

3 жыл бұрын

she was a keemstar fan? alright, that settles it, i'm never watching her again.

@headerahelix

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know she LIKED keemstar. I always wondered what kind of people enjoyed him. Guess now we know.

@Copperkaiju

3 жыл бұрын

Who is Keemstar? I've been seeing their name in comments alot recently.

@CatDadJai

3 жыл бұрын

@@Copperkaiju keemstar is the guy that runs the "DramaAlert" channel. In my opinion, his videos are good because it informs you of any drama going off in the community. However, he's not a good person. He's said racist things, bullied kids on games, falsely accused an old man of being a convicted p*do (he got the wrong person) causing the old man to get nasty messages and a lot of distress. These are just a few examples of the messed up things keem has done.

@Copperkaiju

3 жыл бұрын

@@CatDadJai I knew he had a bad reputation but I didn't want to suffer through a bunch of his vids to find out why. Thanks for the info.

I used to defend Shannon when people were saying she “love bombed” you and I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but now I completely take that back. I see it now and I’m sorry you went through such a toxic (and public) friendship with her. She was so so fake online it’s actually disgusting :(

@franciscariveramartinez

3 жыл бұрын

what does "lovebombing" mean? And how this Shannon person did it to RTG?

@abbyryan788

3 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering what love bombing is too

@ReverieOfThorns

3 жыл бұрын

@@franciscariveramartinez love bombing is basically when you overwhelm people with acts of love or appreciation in order to hide your true intentions, often publicly. A lot of manipulators and abusers use this tactic to keep their target close to them and to remove doubt in the victim's mind that they're being manipulated or abused and to make other people believe that they're a good person. It's unfortunately common and also unfortunately works fairly well on the victim :(

@synneatssin

3 жыл бұрын

@@franciscariveramartinez “Love bombing is an attempt to influence a person by demonstrations of attention and affection. It happens when someone overwhelms the victim with loving words or physical actions with manipulative behaviours.[1] It can be used in different ways and for either positive or negative purposes.[2] Psychologists have identified love bombing as a possible part of a cycle of abuse and have warned against it.” Copy and pasted from Wikipedia but it describes it well

@lichhz4383

3 жыл бұрын

Who is shannon? What is the name of her channel?

Shannon reminds me that scene from Mean Girls, where Regina compliments girl's skirt later she talks shit about her skirt.

@carlycrays2831

3 жыл бұрын

Regina George wasn't even this nuts.

@vonnie4914

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlycrays2831 atleast Regina was mature for her age. She is almost fucking 30 and has a worst attitude than a maturing 16 years old

@fauna5328

3 жыл бұрын

And that she wrote her own name down in the burn book- Shannon posted comments shit talking herself on lolcow to remove any suspicion.

@clorby22

3 жыл бұрын

At least Regina redeemed herself by the end of the film. I don’t think we’re going to see Shannon genuinely change any time soon.

@vonnie4914

3 жыл бұрын

@@clorby22 Jokes aside I don't want so see Shannon ever again in this platform. After I watched Emily Artful's video my blood fucking boiled. What she did was crime and Emily could ended up hurting herself due to Shannon's and her psycho husbands behavior.

I warned so many people about this girl and no one listened. I originally knew Shannon was a bad person just from the way she made videos and then I had a personal bad experience with her about a year and a half ago. I'm just glad people finally know and she isn't manipulating people anymore

@Coookiiiiiiee

3 жыл бұрын

That’s so good to see. So many comments saying:”I knew she was a bad person from day one!” Okay why didn’t you warn anyone??? 😭 thank *you* for trying, I’m glad her deceitful ways caught up with her

@helloworld2784

3 жыл бұрын

@@Coookiiiiiiee Because they enjoy watching her. I saw so many fans of her and verified channels apologizing to her victims saying they're sorry for judging them, talking shlt on them, that they just believed Shannon. That's how manipulative and convincing she is.

@Coookiiiiiiee

3 жыл бұрын

@@helloworld2784 yea you’re completely right on that. It’s scary how good she was at mimicking things like empathy, compassion and such. People knew something was off but still were lured in by her spiel. Scary person

@Sutareta

3 жыл бұрын

@@Coookiiiiiiee Not so many people spoke up because they were scared of her big audience. Remember Hopeless Peaches drama happened? So many small creators talked about Shannon's lies but it never had any impact on her career. It's sad that THIS much had to happen to finally get her cancelled

@KalinTheZola

3 жыл бұрын

Hindsight's 20/20 I guess

there's no way in hell Shannon can ever come back from this. this goes far beyond petty KZread drama. this is a legit crime!

I'm so sorry, that this happened to you, it's very hard to go through these realizations about 'friends'. In your case even multiple times.. Happy that you are speaking out on the issue instead of staying silent.

@Emmie1223

3 жыл бұрын

Emily made a video for 2 hours about CREEPSHOW ART.

@just_a_turtle_chad

3 жыл бұрын

A Turtle no longer approves of Creep Show Art.

@baddie1shoe

3 жыл бұрын

What did she say that was so bad specifically about RTG?

@Cha.An.BP16

3 жыл бұрын

Hallo Soja! Mag viele deiner Videos sehr-lustig zu sehen, dass du auch ready to glare guckst :). Liebe Grüße

@Beez123

3 жыл бұрын

@@just_a_turtle_chad smart turtle👏

I'm just so disappointed she turned out this way, you were manipulated along with so many people and there was really so many people she hurt and I just don't understand why Shannon did all of this. As a former viewer of Creepshow Art, it's really just so confusing to me why she'd keep up a front while leading a path of destruction when she thinks she's completely anonymous. Edit: I see so many people in the reply section trying to blame me and other people who were past viewers for falling for her antics. Keep in mind a few things, I was young and very impressionable when I started watching her content and I didn't know what behaviour to expect from commentary channels and even if the tone was too off putting like even when she was aggressive, I wrote it off as her just being angry at whatever horrible person she was talking about. I didn't know how to read people and it was never obvious to me when a tone was bad or good due to my inability to read situations. I only realized something in her tone was wrong when I started watching people like D'angelo Wallace and Kurtis Conner who were never aggressive in their content. I didn't see the red flags until much later, I stopped watching her videos about three months ago because I just couldn't stand her and that was around the time I started looking for podcasts instead. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by all these people feeling betrayed but you have to remember that she manipulated an entire audience and the people closest to her - we're all just victims in this scenario and the only person to blame is Shannon.

@angelastone4806

3 жыл бұрын

Because of those last 5 words you typed, she thinks she is completely anonymous. She is a coward & thought that even if she was caught in lies that she would still be protected by the anonymity. It's honestly disgusting to see how many people hide behind a screen & think its okay to cause such chaos because of it freely.

@xx-gb5rt

3 жыл бұрын

Turned out this way? She's ALWAYS been like this. I can't believe she managed to fool a lot of people, can't you guys see how much of a horrible person she is from the getgo?

@keeralove

3 жыл бұрын

@@xx-gb5rt i’d been a viewer of hers for a while, and i thought she seemed really genuine and like she cared about the people around her. sometimes people lie, and not everyone will be able to tell. and that sucks.

@aurcus5584

3 жыл бұрын

@@xx-gb5rt I don't think it's your intention but don't shame people for not finding out sooner. No, we weren't able to tell from the get go. Her whole audience wasn't able to tell. Her friends weren't able to tell. She manipulated all of us

@xarzneimittel8220

3 жыл бұрын

@@xx-gb5rt I honestly can't, I'm confused 😕 and I don't think the way you're saying it helps in any way. It's not out fault the fact that we can't understand someone's mind.

also, for anyone in these comments coming at former viewers/friends of CSA for not seeing this coming - remember how long Shane Dawson was on this platform virtually unchecked. how long Gabbie Hanna kept her career/collaborations by having her own corner of the platform. bad people aren't bad all the time, and what's obvious to you is not obvious to the people who connected with the good. we've all made poor judgement on someone's character before. it's what people say now they know that counts.

@xtrashocking

3 жыл бұрын

vouch

@LxstHxlo

3 жыл бұрын

Lets not use shane dawson as an example, he started his career with blackface, not being shady

@daisymay156

3 жыл бұрын

@@LxstHxlo CSA also went beyond being shady to be fair, with the whole Emily situation. but I absolutely see your point - wasn't trying to downplay Shane's behaviour at all

@cantsay2205

3 жыл бұрын

And now Shane's been allowed to slide again, all because of James Charles doing way less than Shane ever did.

One of my best friends in high school was diagnosed with psychopathy. She was extremely charismatic, popular, and one of the funniest people i had ever met-of course along with this she was incredibly malicious and conniving. The funny thing is that Shannon always skeeved me out because she reminded me SO much of this friend, all the way down to her caddy sense of humor, quippy observations about pop culture, even the way she talked … figures that Shannon reminded me of a psychopath, huh? :/

Hey Giulia, don't feel bad or naive for believing someone you felt was close to you and wanting to have a geniuine connection with them (in both cases). Just because the world is cold doesn't mean we have to be cold as well. You're a good person and a great friend who didn't deserve this. Take care x

@ddjsoyenby

3 жыл бұрын

agreed she couldn't have known what shannon was really like.

Her sending you roses before everything hit the fan is called "love bombing" and is a common manipulation tactic to put their victim in a position where they'd feel like they have to agree or go along with them Edit: I'd like to clarify that "love bombing" is a repeated behavior to manipulate someone. This one instance of Shannon giving Glare flowers is not exactly love bombing; however, given Shannon's behavior towards people like Omnia and Emily, and how she love bombed them to back them into a place where they felt like they had to go along with Shannon and felt guilty if they didn't, I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't the only instance that Shannon has done something like this to Glare. If they were as close as implied in the video, any kind gestures could have been brushed off as "friendship" rather than manipulation. The thing about love bombing is that it doesn't always immediately precede shit hitting the fan. My narcissistic mother has love bombed me all my life, taking me on extravagant vacations or buying me expensive things out of the blue and then using her "kindness" against me in a disagreement. She still holds vacations we took 15 years ago- when I was an elementary student- over my head.

@oh-6613

3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily lol. A one time thing isnt love bombing, a pattern would be. Stop using terms of abuse so easily because it makes it harder for people to recognize actual abuse.

@DismemberedHat

3 жыл бұрын

@@oh-6613 it's a pattern with Creepshow Art to love bomb people. She did it with Omnia and Emily Artful. It's not using a term of abuse so easily. It's appropriately using a term of abuse when an abuser has repeatedly displayed this behavior. Like? Do your research before coming at people?

@xxcallmeniaxx3272

3 жыл бұрын

@@oh-6613 hi I survived different forms of abuse personally, perhaps you have too? I personally feel this is a correct usage because Shannon had set a precedent in doing this stuff with others as well and because the context she was trying to use that in. You can disagree but that doesn't mean it's objectively going to hurt abuse survivors perhaps your a survivor yourself, as I said, but you can't speak for everyone, thank you for caring about the rest of us but we may have different opinions from you.

@bluerobot3806

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think what she did was love bombing. Manipulative yes but not the same as omnia. With omnia she would shower her with compliments and tell her often how she is "her idol" or "the best blah blah blah". Giving flowers isn't really love bombing... I would agree if she did more before/after that i.e strong&often compliments, nice gestures, more gifts.

@eastdakota6954

3 жыл бұрын

y'all remember when Creepshow was accused of love bombing that one time?

The irony is, awhile back, I tried offering some VALID, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM of Shannon and almost instantly, Ashlee Lillie responded to me with a rude comment talking about how I was 'bashing,' Shannon. Nah, girl, you're blind.

I have never liked shannon’s content. I felt like she was a 12 y/o going off on people and found her quite off. I want to say I’m surprised that she’s in these controversies but I’m not :/

@jennawatson9166

3 жыл бұрын

I was completely shocked when I found out she's nearly 30. I only watched a few of her videos and got a bad vibe. Specifically that semi recent one where she was emailing with Onision.

@sofaericsson6392

3 жыл бұрын

@@jennawatson9166 wait what. I had a couple of her vids in my recommended, ended up watching them and I thought she was 16, 19 tops.

@MEOWMIX3DS

3 жыл бұрын

@@jennawatson9166 yooo i thought she was a teen, or at most a young adult

@itsanoformethanks6277

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. Always wondered why I didn’t like her and thought her critiques seemed ruder than others. Makes sense now

@Christina-qx5rs

3 жыл бұрын

literally every time i heard her say my dude i cringe lol

I was friends with a covert narcissist for nearly ten years. The betrayal that came with our eventual parting still effects me and some days are worse then others. Having a friend hurt you is so painful. You let them into be a part of your life and it's taken for granted. Friendship break ups are not talked about enough. They're just as painful and hard as a romantic breakup. You feel foolish and dumb for letting someone take advantage of your heart and spend days thinking "Was any of it true? Was it all just manipulation?". You have momentos and gifts around the house that are tainted now because now you see it as them buying your friendship. It sucks. Big time. My heart goes out to you. Trust me, life is better without liars in it.

@chileanyways4517

3 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Sharpie A narc who wants to get help and change is fine but for the love of god don’t invalidate other peoples feelings or experiences because you claim to have a higher understanding of the disorder. You have no idea. Sincerely, someone who was abused by a narcissistic father for 18+ years of my life.

@CrimeGirl

3 жыл бұрын

Been there too Jenna, it's really hard! Hope you're okay!!

@sassykat2587

3 жыл бұрын

You're abosolutely right, and I second that friendship break ups need to be addressed more. It hits hard when they betray you out of nowhere, or simply throw you away as if you're disposable garbage, it's especially worse imo if either party was on relatively good terms.

@saram5964

3 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Sharpie you can be abusive and narcissistic

@papasscooperiaworker3649

3 жыл бұрын

@@saram5964 Yeah, that's what they were saying, I think. Narcissism doesn't necessarily mean you're abusive (some narcissistic people don't harm anyone), but narcissism can definitely be a reason why you're abusive, and when that's the case, my empathy stops.

What fucks me up is that a fully grown woman acts like this. She must feel really dissatisfied with herself to do this so consistently and to multiple people. Take care, RTG, and take all the time you need to heal and recover. We love you.

@Nakia11798

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's PURE self-destructive behaviour.

@yazzerino

3 жыл бұрын

yeah only a really messed up person has the time and energy to hate on other people like this

@Pandcakes936

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nakia11798 Oh trust and believe there's more people like this out there. Compulsive liars, backstabbers, narcissists, etc. I've had my experience with one who'd I've exposed yet she knew how to manipulate people so I'd be the bad guy. It's mentally exhausting. I'm glad she's out of my life but it stays with you and makes you question every person you come into contact with - paranoia.

@cuckoophendula8211

3 жыл бұрын

In regards to her being "dissatisfied with herself," I'm really wondering how her relationship with Anthony plays a part in all of this. And as someone who never really watched her videos before, did she ever bring up her relationship before? If not, I find that very weird

@alexh6767

3 жыл бұрын

One thing I grew up thinking that adults are above all the petty drama and once I reach adulthood life would be more sane. The biggest misconception I've ever had. Creepshows age has nothing to do with her maturity unfortunately, she was probably always like this since a child.

People never cease to amaze me I swear. Had similar situations with “friends” in my past. Actually was shot by someone I considered my best friend for years, and also sent to prison by someone I was very close friends with (he was also my cousin). So I just put up a wall years ago and I refuse to get close to anyone. I stick to myself, changed my life. I go to work everyday, come home and either watch tv or get on the internet. Zero social life and I’m completely fine with that honestly. I have like work friends, I may go grab a beer with them once or twice a year ya know? But they don’t really know me. They know absolutely nothing about my past. It’s kind of a running joke at work, a coupe of them refer to me as Mysterio in jest cuz I don’t talk about my life with them. I remove myself from the convo when people start talking about their personal life. It’s not the same I know, but I felt like I could understand when listening to you talk about this Creepshow chick. Hope everything works out for ya. Keep your head up…

@Nakia11798

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like some bad friends. Like, how the hell did one send you to jail?

@alexisjakubiak8035

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you can find it in you to let people in again someday. I totally relate to shutting people out due to past pain and trauma, but eventually it gets old. To each their own though, if you're happy that's all that matters.

@behms1235

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you are doing okay.

@MyScreenNameIsTroubledOne

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nakia11798 I may have worded that a little loosely. He testified against me in the case that sent me up for three years at 18 years old. I was guilty as a mofo, but he turned states evidence against me to avoid a 6 month sentence when I was originally facing 56 years. About half of the case they presented was utter nonsense and they knew it. So when plea bargaining started, we got all the way down to 3 years flat and I took and ran with it. I was the happiest mofo in the penitentiary I swear. Goin from facing 56 years to serving 3 flat, I got quite lucky there.

@MyScreenNameIsTroubledOne

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexisjakubiak8035 thank you!

Thank god that people finally found out what kind of person she is. I was annoyed by her videos popping up in my recommendation from the start. Ugh. I made the mistake more than once to click on one of her videos because the title was interesting. Just to find out that she just rambles without breathing, about unimportant bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic of the video. (usually petty drama that she got herself into). I don't have the time or energy to listen to all of this and pay attention to when she will finally start talking about the topic in the title. Her shit personality just shined through when she talked and I always just had that feeling that she is insufferable but couldn't put my finger on why she's giving off this vibe. Now I know why. Because she is.

Im so sorry Shannon did this to you. You never deserved it . She's a bully and always has been

@DameVonBonDaisy

3 жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏 I too have spoken on it. This entire thing is so sad. Poor things. We must send them loving and healing 💕 and give them time

@HonestyGaming

3 жыл бұрын

I have supported both of them for a long time. I was and am caught completely off guard by this. I just wanted to know what you have heard/seen from Shannon to say this, obviously I have missed some things

@raysha9932

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she is and I'm sorry but a lot of these creators enabled her not Glare but she would start hate campaigns and they would all follow after her

@ShawtySurelyTrifling

3 жыл бұрын

@@DameVonBonDaisy I’m sorry. I hope things get better for you and anyone else who went through this

@ad_kk16

3 жыл бұрын

@@lalayastill610 True. Bully is the wrong to use. It's more like a tormentor

This must be so horrible for so many people, she’s hurt so many people. Sending love ❤️

@hallway_revenant7919

3 жыл бұрын

What I don't understand is why she's doing this, she literally makes videos calling people out for the same things.

@just_a_turtle_chad

3 жыл бұрын

A Turtle no longer approves of CreepShowArt.

@parkchimmin7913

3 жыл бұрын

@@hallway_revenant7919 Projection?

@suelowe115

3 жыл бұрын

❤️Sending support. Sorry this happened to you.

@Alexandraincognito

3 жыл бұрын

@@hallway_revenant7919 Seems like she enjoys playing with people's emotions

The people she will be sharing a prison cell with if she actually gets charged for possession of child pornoghraphy and blackmail will very much disagree with you on the self harming bit... and I think I may disagree with you on that bit to if all this is actually true. I know this isn't helpful to hear right now, but if child porn is involved this goes way past "no one deserves to be hurt!" territory in most peoples opinions... the police included.

@ninajen2487

3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree this is on another level of evil

@thenewkhan4781

3 жыл бұрын

Emily seriously should take her to court. Years of stalking, which cost Emily's employments and mental health... a lot of people go to jail for things like this.

I feel like we all had a friend like this at one point in our lives. Some people can lie into your face, play the victim and nice person so well... you trust them. It hurts.

You know shits about to get real when I've been watching giulia for over 3 years and have never seen her record outside of her studio

All the people demanding a response lost sight of the fact that her friends were victims too. Unless you’ve been through it, it’s impossible to empathize with how psychologically traumatic the act of being betrayed by someone you’ve invested a lot of trust in truly is. I’m so sorry you are experiencing that due to this situation. It’s completely understandable that you still have compassion for Shannon and I hate that you feel the need to defend that bc people lack the life experience necessary to understand how cruel it is to expect immediate condemnation or suffer guilt by association. It doesn’t make sense that so much energy would be put into a facade for the sake of self-promotion and grappling with the reality of her false persona doesn’t negate that the friendship was genuine for you. You should be permitted the space to grieve that loss and to wish better for Shannon bc she clearly needs help. On behalf of the audience that understands that… I want to apologize for any pressure you felt from those who don’t. Wishing you peace, love, and support as you process everything and begin to heal. 💞

@lisapeesalemonsqueezah3241

3 жыл бұрын

Omg so well said! Hope she she's this one.

@courtneyisaseagull

3 жыл бұрын

@JaseekaRawr

3 жыл бұрын

Right?! I wouldn't have been able to put out a response, esp video response, this quickly, for real. Guilia is so strong.

@TimeQuxxn

3 жыл бұрын

@@JaseekaRawr took the words out of my mouth. The trolls/insensitive people on this site are usually pretty young. I know because when I actually throw an educated argument back to their trolling they just say "I don't need this. Logging off"

@DuhDee

3 жыл бұрын

Co-signing this! She owes no one any explanation and should heal through this trauma however she wants and as long as it takes. I guess some people aren’t able to be respectful and need the affected parties to SpIlL tHe TeA 🤦‍♀️

I'm not even joking, this is by far the WORST friendship betrayal I've ever heard in my entire life. It's insane, no cap.

@Lauren-pt3gz

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately friendship betrayal can get VERY MUCH WORSE. I wish disloyal people just didn’t exist

@sakasusuk

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lauren-pt3gz friendship betrayal is sometimes worse than relationships betrayal itself. Coz Friendship is like a handpicked family. There’s more trust and a safety net is instilled in friendship since we’re more likely to lose a boyfriend/girlfriend over a trusted best friend. I cannot imagine the trauma Emily had to go thru. With a toxic abusive ex+manipulative abusive friend. If I were in her shoes it’d take a while for me to recover from such a severe psychological abuse

@elizabethevenson6110

3 жыл бұрын

@@sakasusuk yeah, your friends are who you talk to if your SO turns out to be an asshole and you need support. you aren't necessarily going to get the same support from your SO (even if you currently have a relatively decent one which a lot of people don't) if your bff or close friend betrays you/is an asshole.

@sakasusuk

3 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethevenson6110 FACTS!! Even in divorce cases, who do you run to after ur spouse abuse/cheat? Friends. They’re your confidants, emotional support, and whom have been with since your younger self days. They sometimes know you better than your families. My break up with my ex was wayyy less hurtful in comparison to when I lost my ex best friend of 10 years coz she betrayed my trust. The pain level was a whole different level and it took me a full year to heal

@iamcasihart

3 жыл бұрын

This isn’t a pissing contest, but my lifelong BFF from age 4- when we were in our early 20s, her vehicle was vandalized and broken into whilst she was in the gym working out. The vandal and thief stole her bank card, some petty cash, and left one of her windows broken. That happened on a Thursday. She called me that evening after going to the police and she was so upset and rattled. I felt so terrible for her and again, this was my very best friend since we were practically babies. I didn’t hear from her for a few days, but we worked at the same club and I came into work on a Sunday night. I saw her. She saw me and the second she looked at me with a look on her face like I had never seen in my life, I felt my heart sink. I didn’t know what was wrong, but I knew something was very wrong, just in a moment, that is how much I loved her and could feel her energy. She refused to speak to me. I spent that entire night following her around the club, begging her to speak to me, to explain what was wrong. I was so devastated. I called her then boyfriend and he told me that she was upset because she believed I was the one who broke into her vehicle and stole from her. She believed that of me! I was shocked, sickened, and stupefied. For weeks, I tried to contact her. I left voicemails begging her to have a conversation with me. I asked her to have the police come arrest me and take me in for questioning. I was so hurt that she would ever think that I would do that to anyone, let alone her. There wasn’t a friend I had ever loved so much. Never has been a friend I supported so much. Never will be another friend that I will love like that. She broke something in me. She never spoke to me, and we never had a conversation. It was BAM! No contact. Also, she told all of our mutual friends and worst of all, her parents and other family that had loved me like family since the day we met in 1982. She told everyone that I’d done this awful, criminal, horrible thing. I lost my best friend, and I lost the relationship with her family, as well. I cried over this for over 6 years. It was truly that devastating. I am a very tender hearted person, and that will never change, but that experience and others since have made me so much stronger, more resilient, and now, when a friend does something that is hurtful and I’ve been betrayed, I just cut my loses and keep it moving. It’s self preservation. I’m leaving out details, as it is still painful and exhausting to explain this. But yeah. People suck. I much prefer the company of animals.

At this point I feel like no one in KZread is safe to watch anymore. I guess gotta watch everyone with the reminder that they can be hiding a disgusting past that can be revealed anytime now. The world is such a crappy place.

@KalinTheZola

3 жыл бұрын

I'm lucky if I agree with 80% about a creator I watch. When I was younger I used to be upset over the smallest disagreements and unfollow them. Now that I'm older I only do that for rare situations where the level of disagreement is just completely incompatible. Like Creepshow, if I happened to be subbed.

@westleynelson8960

2 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. Just thinking about how chances are lots of people on KZread have something to hide gives me a nervous stomach.

Can’t believe she didn’t even admit it to her own close friends

@juliamomu

3 жыл бұрын

I mean she was shit-talking about those close friends so...

@RMaher-cz7gw

3 жыл бұрын

I doubt she can even admit it to herself. I imagine she has said so many lies she's convinces herself she's genuinely in the right.

@suitdoggy4707

3 жыл бұрын

That is if she actually really thought of them as friends. An not just a social security blanket.

@thayna64077

3 жыл бұрын

Girl my own mother tried to burn my face with a hot fork and had the nerve to tell me "why do you hate me so much? I Never did that to you" some people are just madly fucked up and don't care for anyone

@HolicChan

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliamomu it's more so because its so obvious shes lying, so the fact that she STILL wont admit to those close to her, i genuinely find bananas

At this point, I’m ready for anything. After watching Emily’s video, there’s no way Shannon can get worse

@bellezanegra0206

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t even say that. That’s when worse info comes out.

@ProbablyAkeelah

3 жыл бұрын

@@bellezanegra0206 oh yeah. True

@kate.6262

3 жыл бұрын

Great now you've jinxed us /j

@cher3093

3 жыл бұрын

Sure she can.

@AudraBurgess

3 жыл бұрын

[Billy Mays enters the chat]

A completely unrelated compliment: Your hair looks amazing 💖

No idea why this showed up on my feed or why i clicked on it or who these people are. But the way she handled this is so mature and such an honest way of handling a situation. No jumping to conclusions, giving people the benefit of the doubt, but not ignoring the evidence she was confronted with. Still caring for her friends health even when she knew she had most likely been betrayed by her...its just great to see how she handled this, and it's unfortunate she had to encounter that kind of person

Ugh this whole thing has really shook me. I can’t even imagine how you feel.

Honestly it didn’t even occur to me your silence was compliance/avoidance/etc. I was concerned your mental health had taken a heavy hit because of this so I’m glad to see you’re (relatively) okay. She fooled a lot of people and has done a lot of damage. I hope you are getting support irl and we all send you our love and support as well 💜

@darkwriter_xx94

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I figured she wouldn’t make a public video because of the possible mental toll this would take. Never thought she condoned it at all.

You did really good in this video.

@Quario

3 жыл бұрын

Go away

@carolin2220

3 жыл бұрын

You’re amazing rep 💖

@xaixn.

3 жыл бұрын

hey rep 😎

@liamgeorgios

3 жыл бұрын

@@Quario why?

@fazilaeminovic1796

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamgeorgios Watch Primink's video about him

I come back to various videos about Shannon from time to time, and it still feels strange each time I do. I’d subscribed to her channel before a lot of those self serving “I’m a ride or die friend” or “I will always hold myself accountable” videos came to be…basically before she’d become a fairly well known creator. I can’t say that I loved her content. I can’t even say that I agreed with much of her statements. She just had an interesting approach to how she “scripted” (or more likely, improvised) the dialogue within her videos. But, it became harder and harder to continue watching/listening to her videos. Mainly, it was due to how she seemed to be either 1) becoming the person she adamantly claimed she wasn’t, or 2) she was allowing the mask she wore to slip and who she really was all along was visible. And, to be honest, neither of the two were very attractive. I can’t say that “Ah-ha! I KNEW there was something wrong with this woman!” because that’s not really the truth. Her content just started to feel disingenuous She would claim to dislike people saying or doing certain things, and then all of the sudden she’s partaking in those very things herself. She stood there for all the world to see yelling from atop the precariously unstable pedestal she’d built for herself that this kettle or that kettle was black…and all the while she was the godd@mn pot. The only thing I can say for certain about how I felt was that it was uncomfortable for me to continue “supporting” her by watching her content. So, I backed away from her content until I just couldn’t even stand seeing thumbnails of her videos. I unsubbed and never went back. It’s just surreal to know that I, along with SO VERY MANY others, had unknowingly watched this creator braid a rope, knot it carefully and almost lovingly, and then savagely hang her reputation and the friendships she’d made until the kicking finally stopped. I don’t know that I’ve ever personally seen anyone hoist themselves by their own petard in such a brutal fashion prior to this.

“Can’t put the shit back into the horse.” -Emily D. Baker

@nicanonymus2491

3 жыл бұрын

Ewww, I see the picture… 🤮

@_gothy_mothy_

3 жыл бұрын

Ew. Accurate. But ew lol

@gemmayoutube

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that was going to say Emily Dickinson 😫

@dottyorange7270

3 жыл бұрын

@@gemmayoutube 😂😂😂

@ivanovskameow999

3 жыл бұрын

@@gemmayoutube "The moon was but a chin of gold a night or two ago, and now she's gone and done a shit and tied it in a bow." Ahhh, one of my favourites..

The roses were a: "I'm such a nice person and I'm your friend" She knew what was coming. I'll have to be honest her lovebombing of you in particular Giulia was what made me stop watching her. A good friend can be a good friend without getting the whole internet involved

@ajaku

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, and same here. It was just too much. Came across really disingenuous

The rose thing reminds me of when Snow sent Katniss the white rose. Yikes

You genuinely sound heartbroken. It's the only word I could think of when you were describing how you felt. I am so sorry you had to go through something as horrible as this, especially publicly.

I was a huge fan of yours before she was even on the scene, you were the first person I thought of after Emily though, because you had met in person and become personal friends. Hope you're okay🖤🖤

As a former viewer of “Creep Show Art”, this is super confusing and I feel hurt aswell.

@juju10lins

3 жыл бұрын

Right? She potrait herself as a totally different person. I used to really like her, i kinda feel that i wil not ever look at youtubers the same way. U never know how they really are. Heck! I can only imagine how Ready to Glare is feeling right now... cause imagine one of your friends doing this to u online.

@heidyrichiez4833

3 жыл бұрын

Same I am so confuse.... I came to know about Giulia because of Shannon and I’m trying to find a reason why she did this. I really can’t imagine how hurt she is, and also the other victims.

@Shaowraven2266

3 жыл бұрын

@@juju10lins I mean, yeah she did but tbh her tone always though me off, she always seemed aggressive even when the topic she was talking about doesn't make sense to be. Same with videos that I could tell she just attacked the person based off of personally views

@ghostiguro

3 жыл бұрын

i was hugely inspired by shannon and even saw some of my personality in hers. i loved (most) of her content, her story times, her loudness, her humour, her personality, her “good heart.” now i’m not sure how to feel. either way it’s not a good feeling. :// i can only imagine how the people close to her feel about all this.

@daniellecollins8257

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. I've been a fan of her for years now and I really looked up to her as an artist. But she's nothing like the person she pretended she was

I started smelling a rat with Shannon's content about a year and a half ago, when she started ragging on content creators that I was a fan of. So much of what she said either felt like a lie or was demonstrably false. And a lot of it went after people's personal character. It seemed like, if she knew those things, she would have had to have gone digging. Or just made it up. Now that the truth's come out, seems like Shannon's been the kind of person who didn't grow out of high school level character assassinations; she just got worse.

@VisciousMistress

3 жыл бұрын

i know this is way off topic, but rats actually smell really good, or at least domestic rats do. sorry, i just wanted to say that >_

@laura72339

2 жыл бұрын

@@VisciousMistress now my curiosity is peaked! what do they smell like?

@VisciousMistress

2 жыл бұрын

@@laura72339 they can smell like a variety of things. smells that have come straight from my rats' bodies, even if it's the end of the week and their cage is stinky, they can small like corn tortillas (sometimes a bit like full blown tacos), grape soda, a blanket that was just washed about an hour ago, sometimes plain white bread... all very subtle, but pleasing.

@iaminpainauchocolat9300

2 жыл бұрын

@@VisciousMistress that is adorable

It's so huge of you to still check up on her, pure example of a good human

I think it’s so unfair that people demand instant responses and reactions of people when their friends are exposed for being harmful. As humans, we need time to process our complex emotions and I think we should all try to be more patient with one another instead of demanding people speak out immediately or writing them off as enablers or complicit. I hope you’re taking care of yourself above all else 💗

@cosmichoshi4175

3 жыл бұрын

I completly agree. It makes me feel ill knowing that some people can just disregard people's mental health who have been directly effected by this to fuel their own narrative as soon as they want it. Give people the time they need. I hope you can heal from this Giulia.

@rabbit__

3 жыл бұрын

Instant responses to shit like this causes more grief than its worth. Taking the time to process, and understand the situation and how it affects you is so important to having a healthy response.

The lolcow admins are honestly heroes

@lieutenant_lucky_rocks

3 жыл бұрын

In this situation yes, but we cannot discuss this site without acknowledging its much more prevalent role as a hotbed of transphobia, racism, targeted harassment, basically everything awful in the world, none of which their honorable actions here can mitigate.

@neu_dae

3 жыл бұрын

yeah only in this sense. Lolcow is still one of the most hellish sites I've ever had the displeasure of clicking through, and the admins are there to keep that shit running.

@neu_dae

3 жыл бұрын

@Oli Ver obviously not, but Lolcow is a completely different level of intensity then a KZread comment section could ever dream of being lol

@alwayscommenting56

3 жыл бұрын

@Oli Ver KZread comment sections are Nothing compared to lolcow, you should really check out what's posted there. KZread, Twitter, etc still have terms of services that limit what you can say (hate speech, targeted harrassment, etc are still not allowed) and you can still report those to get the comments/users taken down. Lolcow has a completely different TOS that allows these disgusting stuff to fester.

@CrypticPara

3 жыл бұрын

How I see lolcow when knowing about it is like old meme Love them or hate them, they are speaking the truth

Creepshow art is a channel were a shady girl just short of slanders other KZreadrs for clicks while she traces anime style drawings. When anyone called her out on her lying or misrepresentations, she would turn it around to make them look like the bad guy. The name suites her.