I'm going to wait for the UNAS Pro Max Enterprise Fortress Ultra with Etherlight

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Is that the Premium Ultra Platinum Monster Elite edition?

@joshuafoster6790

27 күн бұрын

Don’t forget SE

@mvrck-pb5pk

25 күн бұрын

😄

I can see unifi selling a nas solution as part of a way to "host" multi site networks. As well as being a secondary backup to the nvrs and the controllers.

As a user who just changed their network over to Unfi to run ethernet throughout the house and who has NAS in the plan, I'm quite excited to see this video poop up in my feed. I hope it's true and is a decent product. I'd definitely buy it if so.

@jeepdog5

23 күн бұрын

Just get a synology. The hardware for NAS’s is the easy part, the software interface is the make or break component for NAS’s and UniFi isn’t know for rock solid UX/UI

Would love to see more 10Gbps switches.

@ryanmalone2681

Ай бұрын

Right? It’s all or nothing with them. Either 24 x 10GbE for $1300 or a tiny little switch. What I want is a 24 port switch with half 2.5GbE and the other half 10GbE. I can’t believe 1GbE is still so prevalent.

@jpsilvashy

Ай бұрын

@@ryanmalone2681 exactly. I mean we could just get the aggregation switch, but that’s not really its intended purpose. I have 8 engineers in our small office, sharing huge files (~1Tb) all day with each other from their workstations, and sometimes from home on our VPN. Don’t want tons of equipment to support our basic use case.

@jpsilvashy

Ай бұрын

Also office has 5 cameras, door entry, and 3 WAPs, so those could be on the 2.5Gbe PoE it would be perfect for us.

@mx338

Ай бұрын

As a business user I want more 25Gbps, and even 40Gbps and 100Gbps, these speeds aren't crazy anymore.

@jpsilvashy

Ай бұрын

@@mx338 Yah I agree with this, our issue is we only have Cat6A and would need to run OM4 fiber to do that, 1Gbps => 10Gbps would make a huge huge difference for us.

If true then it looks cool but based on a NVR-Pro. Honestly though, I wish Ubiquiti would slow their R&D for new products and just get the current products fully integrated to the extent they've spoken about. For example, they've officially said that in a future update that the Intercom Viewer will integrate with the G4 POE doorbell with POE chime - has this happened yet? Nope. Personally I love their products however they need to just finish the things they've made public and then create new things. For a NAS solution, Synology is the go-to for rapid deployment in most SMB cases (QNAP if the HDD thing Synology did is an issue), I say this as there's a hell of a lot of work to create a comparable NAS unless Ubiquiti were to either licence an OS from Synology or QNAP or unless they got permission to deploy TrueNAS (or a fork of it).

I personally like the Synology DSM solution. Very complete. However, you're totally right: a NAS solution from Unifi would be different than others: simple to setup and will just work. Kinda like Protect. That would be sweet. Simple deployment. Central management. Synology DSM does have some business solutions built-in, like M365 and Backup for Business are great to have for a full business solution. I'm guessing UniFi won't have that. At least not on their first version.

@GabrielKozsar

Ай бұрын

DSM took a decade+ to develop with built in features. I do not believe UI could catch up in any reasonable timeframe.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

This! But also, I would imagine Ubiquiti would focus on fundamentals at the start, and add feature rich and AAA+ services (based on uptake) at a later date.

Im curious to know in what form and what features will have

0:55 thanks for playing that music, I was trying to find a certain cartoon that played it for quite a while now

@rufus_mcdufus

Ай бұрын

Magic Roundabout! (actually it was based on a French production and had a different name there)

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

It's been in my head for about 2 weeks...I swear, part of me only made this video to exorcise it from my mind!!!

@MisterPikol

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares haha yeah I feel you

I'm curious if this would require a console that can run it. Like how you need to be able to run Protect, Talk, etc, I wonder if this will have that requirement. I'm interested in the desktop NAS from Ubiquiti, but if my UCGU has to be able to run whatever software is needed for it and that device can't do it, I'd probably opt for Synology before I'd upgrade my Unifi gear.

As someone who’s looking to run a UniFi network and so far has been looking at Synology for a NAS to go with it, this is very interesting. However, DSM is so far along, could Ubiquity really get all those ducks in a row, Photo App, Video Station, Plex support, Docker, etc, etc. I’m not sure they will go down the “open” road, and it’ll be more for basic file storage and a place to put UniFi camera footage.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Realisticaly, if Ubiquiti rolled out a NAS, bailing down the fundamentals (object storage, tiered backups, worm, snapshots, secure shares, etc) would have to be the priority. Then, maybe gauge interest and uptake, and go for there. But again, we'd ga e to wait and see

Can you please do a video on Use a Synology or QNAP NAS with UniFi. That is to use as storage for protect and back up?

I’m very interested in this. I really enjoy playing with my home network, but I’m no IT or engineer so I just save files on a windows PC that’s pretty much always on and wired to the network. I hope these devices can also host the unifi controller so I don’t have to have the said PC running it anymore

Software? guess: TrueNAS Scale with a simplified menu for beginners? Or a homebrew OS based on Ubiquiti?

Ubiquiti Networks UNVR-PRO UniFi Protect NVR Pro was one of the pics you showed. I would love them to create a nas but im not holding my breath. It would be nice though.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

I know, I know. But that's the same chassis that is shown on the "data sheet" for the rack mount unit that I found. So, unsure if it's using the same chassis, or it was a placeholder

@TheKaiserlol

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares the Reddit Leak has the identical specs as the NVR Pro Hardware. I guess this is a fake or Ubiquiti is selling the exact same hardware with another software. But i guess the datasheet PDF is a fake, because the year 2022 in the copyright.

Mate. The seaguil is lovely I never felt bother by them. In contrast, It is constant reminder to the audience that u an authentic loyal to ur background and what you said is always (I mean always) valuable to a large IT community.

I'd buy the desktop version 10Gbe, Intel Cpu for Plex transcoding, VM's maybe would be nice. The touch screen would be cool match my Amplifi Alien I'm still using which they also need to upgrade to Wifi 7.

That NAS pro marketing material is old and in fact predates the UNVR pro. It's essentially what became the UNVR pro. I even commented to this on the thread on Reddit.

I appreciate all that you do and have done. Keep fighting.

I didn't see this one coming, but makes sense.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Kinda blows me away that there wasn't one already! I get it...R&D, the work that would go into an entire new ecosystem component, then also opening it up to the rest of the software platform (all of that, and a % of users will just use a Synology or a QNAP anyway, as they have already for years)...all of that adds up to a mountain to climb. But fairplay, it looks like it's happening

I might be wrong here but wasnt there a SMB enable script for Dream devices posted on Github? Wonder if that trick still works.

My first reaction when I got into the ecosystem was “how do they not have a NAS?!” So, awesome if true 🙏

Interesting. I hope it’s more then a rumor. If it is in development one can also hope it steers clear of bloody Kickstarter and has wide availability. Having said that, ARM isn’t my preference. Sure Apple has done an outstanding job with their silicon and Windows on ARM via Snapdragon Cortex SoC is seemingly coming along nicely. However, server / NAS on ARM gives me the dry heaves.

I like unifi, but recommend steering clear from new product lines. Unifi unfortunately have a reputation of releasing buggy/incomplete products (from a software point of view) and I recommend leaving it to early adopters to iron out the issues.

What do you do with all the NAS sat behind you on the shelves?

Everything else I have right now is (mostly) Unifi, so... I'm waitin' and watchin'.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

*finger guns* nice!

Ubiquiti…finally 1gbps connectivity in a NAS!

@mustangthings

Ай бұрын

Get the pro version and you get a second 1gb port for an extra $99!

@ExpressITTechTips

Ай бұрын

😂 this comment is on point

@AtanasPaunoff

Ай бұрын

Why would you say this ? It's too late to have 1G connectivity on a NAS ;) Just my 2 cents. I am upgrading my NAS systems to 100G these days for example.

@CyberBlaed

Ай бұрын

I was looking at all their wifi 6 stuff 12hrs ago… and honestly, whats with everything having 1gb ports on it? Since wifi 6 and 6e are above gbit.. :/

@DozIT

Ай бұрын

The UNVR-Pro (same chassis shown in this vid) has a 10 GB Sfp port

Where can I find that sweatshirt? Love it!

I’m two months into owning a Sonology and you bring this up 😩

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

In my defence, we only just met.

@jorgemtds

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares 🤣

@pale_nimbus

Ай бұрын

I'm thinking Ubiquiti will be even more expensive per bay/hardware than Synology.

Yet they can’t release a udm pro that supports unifi aps with wifi 7. (2.5 gbe) nor sufficient processing to do 5gig IDP and vlan routing

Anyone know where I can score that awesome sweatshirt?

If they do a NAS I am suspecting that people will expect it to be an easy to use system that has the feature set of Truenas. That means they will need 25 gig switching.

New products while the standard product range is barely in stock.. always a fine move

@roger38888

Ай бұрын

They even have an App for the empty store.😂

This has been one of the worst kept secrets. And it probably will include the same form factor and tech from the NVR Pro. That will make it cheaper to manufacture since they are already making this. Since the CPU and memory are fairly pedestrian ARM embedded chips that Unifi uses everywhere, I'm thinking the device will be limited to file service and related functions but don't expect to be doing VMs or anything sophisticated. Whether they open APIs to run third party apps is anyone's guess.

If it is anything like the UNVR I can only imagine how much of a half assed job they will do.

Looks like it's an upgraded Alien Router, hopefully it's going to offer 10Gbe and more overall.

Great idea, however, my biggest concern would be about scalability and if you had to buy another unit, how they connect together to increase storage, iSCSI or fiber link etc and also the cost of both units.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

If UniFi hadn't thought about expansions during the development of a NAS, I would be astounded!!! That's enterprise and business storage 101...will have to wait and see

I would rather see them bring in asked gor features to existing products than focusing on new products. A 10Gb switch with 25Gb uplink would be great and optional upgrades for udm pro, se, promax for 25Gb uplink to switches would make more sense or optional upgrade to 25Gb WAN and bring unifi to med - large business.

I think that Ubiquiti have enough on their plate meeting the demands of the customers for their current products. They've been far too laid back in reacting to demands from customers for minor improvements, or even major gaps in functionality - such as a softphone for their VOIP system. They also have the habit of launching a product and then losing interest and dropping it a while later. A NAS makes sense for them, but I'd prefer that the focus on what they're best at. Switches, access points, CCTV, entry systems, phones and now NAS? They're in danger of spreading themselves too thin. I'm using Synology NAS, who have also ventured into wifi and networking and CCTV. Why does everyone want to try do to everything rather than focusing on their core strengths. Apple used to make printers, but they stopped because it's not their core business and they're better off letting someone else sell those.

If the rack mount only has 6 bays.. that's a bit... low? Especially since the rack mount version will probably cost a fair bit. If they could make it 3U (or 4U) and be able to fit the HDDs vertically instead, they should be able to fit at least 10

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

My money is on 8 or 12 bays, it's the sweet spot for storage cap vs redundancy vs cost vs scale vs performance (I've made A LOT of dull videos on this subject...)

@Tanax13

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares I hope you're right! Setting up your own NAS isn't super difficult but the difficult part IMO is to find a good drive bay so I might just go with that one if it has enough capacity. The desktop variant, do you reckon that uses SSDs internally?

How would authentication happen? I would assume SMB /FTP, but would it support their client that is used for network access/vpn functionality?

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Another fun hurdle for them to challenge. I assume I will be a native version of how Synology or QNAP systems currently reside in their environments

Ubiquiti announced they made a new NVR with expandability. What are the chances that is what this rumor was about?

needs to be super fast drives though

As a Unifi user at work I honestly never asked for a Unifi NAS, they are a network and security system provider to me, if I want a server I go to Dell.

@evelbsstudio

Ай бұрын

Totally agree, myself I would rather them introduce features that have been asked for for many many years instead of focusing on newer products such as a NAS.

Interesting but I'm impatiently awaiting my UGreen 4800P+ - recently received an email from them to expect a query for shipping information! Getting closer... Now what RAM should I buy to expand it to 16TB and HDD 12TB? Already bought a 5 port 10Gbe router and cables plus a 10 Gbe PCIE card for my PC... Suggestions?

from your leaked picture of the rackmount nas it looks the same as the UNVR-Pro (CCTV)

Just ordered the green 6 bay. Darn it.

@Solkre82

Ай бұрын

You'll be able to do a lot more with the i5 powered UGREEN.

@hmj8469

Ай бұрын

How? I can't find it for sale.

They best make existing drive-capable devices compatible with the nas app

I can't say I am very excited about it. I don't like their NVR system. It does not integrate with other vendors. I REQUIRE all of my infrastructure to use common protocols and not have their own special sauce. I do like their Switches and Access points though. In terms of NAS my go to has for many years been Synology but these days I am leaning more and more towards TrueNAS. Software matters more than a pretty enclosure.

As a unifi user at home, with almost all my networking gear on unifi... I dont really care for a unifi nas. I believe these products are so different that i dont know why it would be an advantage to have it... Unified.

Dang it! Now I need to put a hold on my Synology plans until this turns out to be real or not...

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

I mean, the evidence is pretty conclusive.. will be interesting to see how they'd compare

Shhh, but normal Unifi "Coming Soon" applies, but as I have said many times they would do better just adding an App for the UNVR's and Dream Devices

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Very true (and a casual crawl of reddit definitely supports this POV), but there's also users who wouldn't like their surveillance system, their backup target and their file sharing all conducted from the same bare metal system. That's the bugger for Ubiquiti/UI/UniFi on developing a NAS...so, so many sub sets of the audience to please

@JimtheITguy

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares having an appliance as a NAS as an option would be fine, with what's coming next for protect there is quite the overlap on hardware and the LCD on the "unas-stu" very......similar

I wish Amazon would simply EOL that CPU/SoC, it is 12 years old now and should not be used in newly released products anymore. Ubiquiti needs to move onto something 2-3 generations newer finally.

@mvp_kryptonite

Ай бұрын

Word

I thought there already was a UNAS (A NAS product from another company or a humanoid creature in SG-1) depending who you ask.

@allenhori8675

15 күн бұрын

Chakka…Unas nan ka UNAS

Will Synology come with new models this year?

@Hansen999

Ай бұрын

Don't they always release a new model every year? I know they just put the final nail in the coffin for a lot of their old Nas'.

@Evil.Turkey

Ай бұрын

@@Hansen999 they haven’t

@Hansen999

Ай бұрын

@@Evil.Turkey Sounds like they are focusing on the enterprise... kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKGKzamyiZaXoLA.html

The issue is what type of NAS user are they designing for?

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

I'd assume the same as a UniFi user. I'm not especially deep in UniFi with my own setup (mine is a hodge podge of different systems) but I assume they would target a "do 5 things exceptionally well, instead of 50 things good-ish", focusing on fundamentals. But again, impossible to say

I would love to see a nas that can integrate in the eco system to easily off load protect footage vs using these cloud storage owned my someone else.

would be nice , but thing is i dont want rackmount , 1. rackmounts are not easy to place in a small 2 room house 2. they are less mobile 3. i perfer a network setup with small devices like "Gateway Max" i dont need that many ports, just a few, and thing is they only care for larger scale, while we are getting 8gb fiber internet soon, unify don't make consumer products that are 2.5g or more its a downside of unify

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

To be fair (and going by the docs floating around online) there is a desktop model that, given its connection to a copper 10GbE UniFi switch, is 10GBASE-T. But I 100% see your point

@ender25ish

29 күн бұрын

Rackmount for unifi makes sense for their product line up, but they might have both if they do it. Personally, i have unifi equipment and really prefer a rackmount NAS, but there aren't a whole lot of good options that don't break the bank.

Dang, my christmas list keeps getting longer......

fix you website, disable ctrl+c and rightclick to force clicking on affiliate links?!

@nascompares

24 күн бұрын

Not sure what you mean by 'force clicking on the affiliate links', as no one is being forced. But also, we have to disable copy/paste actions as we are regularly having our work cloned and/or AI altered. We aren't happy about having to do it, but that unfortunately is an annoying action we had to do to keep our content protected. Can you explain (more for useful feedback) why the disabling of right clicking made it harder for you to use/enjoy the content, and how were you forced to click links exactly cheers man

It really not. Well the Desktop is an Alien Router in white. Faceplam. That image is just an example of a NAS. for the diagrams... That shape can't hold a HHD let alone 2 or 4... possibly SSDs. There may be a Rack... Sysnology has 40+ designs and purchase levels.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Will have to wait and see i guess

The amount of salt in this video made my blood pressure go up. 😂

FOR FECK SAKE !!!! 0:58 ALIGN THE DANG HDD CAGES EVENLY!!! this twisted shiz is horrible... oh and if they make a NAS? yeah count me in if they price is decent and pref NO DISKS plz thx don't wanna pay overprice for drives

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Unsure if this is a placeholder image from the UNVR systems, so for all we know, this isn't final. Will be interesting to see how UniFi approach Compatibly

@jodajackson4489

Ай бұрын

Bang on, a little symmetry isn’t too much to ask for.

heres hoping for unraid

show !!!!

If it can run UnRaid then I’m a buyer.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Tbh...MASSIVELY UNLIKELY

@NasaRacer

Ай бұрын

unRAID works only on x86 currently.

Hmm, feels a wee bit a Me-too product to me but I'm not that into Ubiquiti eco-system, so I could be wrong. My concern is that the specialist-knowledge required for NAS is more & more watered down by just everybody (pun intended) bringing out a NAS. (too) If I was Ubiquiti, I would seek partnership instead with a industry-leading NAS company. Feels like reinventing the round wheel and sliced-bread again, to me. I know one thing for sure, it will be Ubiquiti pricing, so quire expensive...

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

That might well be the way they go (partnering with someone like Synology), but I kinda doubt it (happy to be proved wrong!!!!), as both companies are very "in house" companies. Will be interesting to watch this all play out

@InspectorGadget2014

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares Let's anxiously await what comes out of all this. I'm sure it would be most welcomed for those who are in the Ubiquiti eco system already, depending on the pricing, specs etc. Partnering with Synology would potentially cause a chance of clashing interests, looking into what both companies are already offering themselves. But hey, wonders do happen and magic takes a wee bit more time. Fingers crossed then, and I look forward to the next chapter on this...

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Man alive IG, I'm so bloody looking forward to chatting to you at the start of next month...utterly unrelated to this video, but wow wee I want to hear your reaction to a particular video coming then. Please put a mark in your calendar for June 4th please.

@InspectorGadget2014

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares I will try to keep my schedule free, my thee's & coffees filled to the rim and piping-hot, I look forward to it! Thanks for the heads-up, much appreciated!

@InspectorGadget2014

Ай бұрын

BTW, this particular topic has come-up before on the Uni-forums. As far back as 4 years ago, I found multiple times. It is a subject that comes back once so often, maybe Ubiquiti finally caved and went to the drawingboard? I do get the impression the majority of Uni users are not really that anxious for such a solution. Pretty much in the same line as my initial comment; sticking with what you are good at. From the Reddit forum I get the impression that it is old information (old logo, old design etc etc) that has been regurgitated. Again, I'm not that much into the Ubiquiti eco-system (way too expensive for my taste, their software is so-so and their Support ...) but I do not expect this to be earth-moving. But for all those Ubiquiti users out there, of course I do hope I'm wrong!

The rack mount NAS looks like a repurposed UNVR

I’d rather put TrueNas on it.

do you think you have enough nas servers? LOL and how hi is that tower on the left. arent you afraid it might fall over on you head?

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

*lowers sunglasses* I like to live dangerously. *Reads electricity bill* ...sometimes, TOO dangerously :(

Ubiquity just discontinued NAS after beta testing

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

I mean, I'm gonna have to ask... *source*?

so if UniFi always breaks after updates, how are you going to trust their NAS?

@LiLBitsDK

Ай бұрын

make the nas part an individual update? no need to update it every week... once that stuff is running you don't need to mess with it (if things work, don't fix them)

@TheRealJamesWu

Ай бұрын

Do they always break after updates? Is this personal experience or...?

@Jniklas2

Ай бұрын

I'm using unify APs and Switches for some time now and never did anything break on me after an update. The only thing I had to fix, was the MongoDB of my self hosted controller, but that wasn't the fault of Unifi

@TheRealJamesWu

Ай бұрын

@@Jniklas2 I know, I have been running multiple unifi sites for a couple of years now, no problem either. That's why I am questioning the "always breaks after updates" statement.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

I know I'm not exactly "Mr UniFi", but when I have been in offices with it + chatting with creators, they rarely mention software updates breaking stuff. Maybe the odd compatibility hurdle, but that's it

Probably going to be over priced for what you get like most of there products

I would love to see a unifi nas for all my data, docker and VMs ♡

If it is real - this is going to be storage only. It’s not going to run VMs and plex etc 😂

10G is no good for an SSD based NAS. That's less than two SSD's-worth of speed. It will be worse than local storage. My target spec is 8 PCIE Gen4 x4 NVME slots, 4+ SATA, PCIE Gen 4 x16 slot for networking.

Why would they launch NAS? Because they want to sell it to you ofcourse!

its just another product unifi will drop after a year of use.

A NAS with 1GBE???? My main gripe is all their stuff comes with 1GBE including their dream walls, and other appliances! its 2024 seriously... I find it massively overpriced to get subpar speeds

I don't trust them.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Why? Genuinely Question

How dumb, synology already has a big portion of the market as well as others

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

Umm..I mean...cameras, switches and router APs existed (and the market already had dominant players) before Ubiquiti established solutions... Should they not have bothered with those either?

I don’t understand why anyone with any interest or skill in technology would buy any of these overpriced and underpowered ready-made NAS’. I can understand if someone knows nothing about storage or technology just wants an easy plug and play storage device, but other than that it makes no sense.

@nascompares

Ай бұрын

You answered your own Q. This is for those that want seamless integration and 'setup and forget' server storage

@ryanmalone2681

Ай бұрын

@@nascompares I didn’t ask a question. I specifically stated I don’t understand “why anyone with any interest or skill in technology would buy”. This is one of two groups of users I’m outlining my comment. English

@sanderdelft

Ай бұрын

Because of time. Working in a professional IT environment doesn’t mean people want to put in work to maintain a home network too. Plenty of network engineers that use their ISP issued router at home instead of Cisco or Palo Alto for example.

@williamblair3603

Ай бұрын

No one that is responsible for data in any critical environment will rely on "Jim's home built NAS solutions" - when the gear dies or when Jim dies, they had to be support/parts and background on the equipment that others can search and service.

@ryanmalone2681

Ай бұрын

@@sanderdelft Using Cisco or Palo Alto at home would be pretty extreme. Building a NAS isn’t complicated, nor does it take much time or skill to build and run