It's called a super group!! NIN drummer, tool guitar tech lead, smashing pumpkins rhythm guitar, marilyn manson bass guitar, and Maynard!!!

This album came out while I was in rehab in early recovery. Its release was serendipitous with my life situation at the time. Mer De Noms is also a great album.

Josh Freese is a beast…played with/in The Vandals, GNR, NIN, Weezer, APC etc.. That man doesn’t have to worry about filling shoes, he already owns them

This album helped me a lot in a very dark time in my life.

Phew.. Judson’s lookin smokin t’day, sobriety really agrees with him🥵

@bwhotwing411

Ай бұрын

I was going to say the same lol

@jaymiles9349

Ай бұрын

I swear to goooood, Richard aint half bad either

@earthscorcher

Ай бұрын

It always catches me off-guard how attractive both these men are. Their partners are lucky! :)

@sxelady

Ай бұрын

@@earthscorcher they sure are!

@Dana-rt6wj

Ай бұрын

Richard has talked about his girl several times but I haven't heard judson mention a significant other. I don't see a ring... Im hoping maybe this means he is single?? ❤ bc i don't live very far from the south.. 😊

This entire album is 🔥🔥🔥

"Cuz you're on dope" - Judson. Also Judson, 10 minutes later - "Cheesecake!"

this song was first interpreted by me as a song of unrequited love, and in '03 I quit a 3 year xanax addiction cold turkey and realized the real meaning during my weeks long struggle with sobriety. Someone feed the monkey while I Dig in search of China White as Dracula as I approach the bottom.....pure genius

At this point I'm so confident in your music taste that I look at these videos to see what bands I should check out.

Opened with one of my favourites on the piano. Oh shit, gave me goosebumps.

Good call on that bass tone being very Tool adjacent! As a pianist, I think Judson would find APC's recent song Disillusioned an interesting listen. The piano isn't a main element throughout the song, but where it used is quite intimate and beautiful.

It’s good to see you guys on this side of addiction where you can feel comfortable enough to open up about it and reflect on it through a clean mirror

You gotta dive into Down!!

@mkopec1

Ай бұрын

YES! PLEASE! SOOO many good songs!

Billy was the guitar tech for Tool before A Perfect Circle

@pagewagley4743

Ай бұрын

Also, NIN and Pumpkins among others. Dude is an underrated legend.

@DemiseUnseen

Ай бұрын

Love Billy Howerdells work. His album "Ashes Divide" is awesome.

Gravity is another one of my favorites from this album. Both very powerful.

I think Billy Howerdel was a guitar tech for Tool, if that counts 🤷‍♂️

@dan.j.boydzkreationz

Ай бұрын

Correct

@The_Wicked_0ne

Ай бұрын

And did some sound engineering too as far as I know

I forgot how awesome this album is, thanks for reminding me! I'm gonna buy it again right now

Great episode guys. Great discussion and most of all Great Measures!

Josh Freese is the shit. Billy writes the songs as they were soundtracks. Then MJK joins in by writing lyrics and sing them. The songs never get old to my ears.

This is one of my favorite bands and albums!!! I saw this band back in 2017 and they are amazing in concert!!!!!

James Iha also influences the sound coming from Smashing Pumpkins. I think you can hear those influences in A Perfect Circle as well.

Id love to see Judson's reaction to the acoustic version of 'the hollow' I think he would've really love it

great video as always. this whole album is so magnificant, never gets old.

Powerful song. I think this was my first time hearing it after getting clean almost 7 years ago. Much different song now.

After seeing Tool previously, I saw A Perfect Circle & Puscifer live for Maynard’s 60th bday tour. I like all 3 but APC is def my favorite

one of my favorite songs by them and one of my favorites between you two.

I can't believe the Album is over 20 years and the first time I saw Perfect Circle live the band opened up for Tool

@user-ik7uw7gh7e

Ай бұрын

Best FUCN LIVE SHOW I'VE SEEN IN 40 YEARS OF GOING TO A LIVE SHOW

I'm older and never really appreciated Linkin Park in the past but right before Chester's passing I started to really feel the music on another level. Such a sad ending to a promising life. Everyone's journey is different and I'll hold on to faith that we'll all be okay

Best team on youtube

I don’t know why but yalls channel is so inspiring. Gives me a good feeling. Loved the classical music to start out.

From an addictions standpoint on APC songs...I think you need to do the Noose and Gravity. The album name speaks for itself for sure.

I like that theater for the reactions, very good setting.

MJK also said at an acoustic rendition of this could be a love song. However you want to see it.

Thanks guys! This album is everything to me, I’ve been loving it since it dropped 🌀🌀🌀👍👍👍✊✊✊

It was that Linkin Park video when i knew you were my boys. What a journey it's been since then!

If you haven't, I'm actually very surprised you guys haven't done "Judith". Their entire catalog is fantastic, but Judith is iconic. A Perfect Circle is basically a power ensemble of players from various "parent bands."

Great song and great album

You guys should do Lateralus

Love this song. Love it's message. I feel your reaction on a real level.Love the Rainbow Tee.

I dare say i prefer A Perfect Circle to Tool. It may not have the highs of some Tool songs but it's more consistent.

This album is INCREDIBLE! I would suggest branching out to the album Mer de Noms (the one where 3 libras is from) and doing maybe "The Hollow" or "Judith" to start it off. This band is just absolutely incredible...can't explain it any other way. (13th step has many more that you should check out as well, not saying that you should stop here haha. so many amazing songs on there!)

Judson scratching the crook of his arm is telling.

This was like watching paint dry 😂

This is in my top 3 APC songs.

It is so spot on from Judson about "floating space" etc. A Perfect Circle and this album.. It always been so atmospheric saturated for me, since mid 2000s around '05-06 when I heard them for a first time with this song. And I still love this track. Another their work which stuck into my mind for all these years is "Annihilation". Whole minimalistic atmosphere of "Annihilation" is incredible. P.s. Also it was surprising for me but I totally agree with Judson about LP, hehe. But A Perfect Circle for always perfect for me. And Tool with A Perfect Circle always had such similar vibes for me, in terms of harmonics and saturation structure, atmosphere.

Hits home. I never gave this song a twist. I took it at face value even in addiction. I think one critic tried to lambast APC and called them a good 80’s rock band or something and they took it as a compliment. Spot me bro! One of the Linkin Park front men did some hip hop stuff that was original.

Great much-needed laughs today dudes, thanks. And send over some cheesecake!

👍👍👍👍👍

Billy used to be Adam Jones guitar tech. I really love APC..nice one! They do a lot of songs about addiction, self reflection.

Sometimes I wonder what Robert Smith thinks of APC

You have to do Orestes off Mer De Noms by them... Pleeease!

It's interesting, I don't have much drug use experience, so I never even knew these were drug references. And just weird till you hear Angela Gossow scream "Ravenous!"

This is a concept album about addiction

"Sometimes I Dont Get You" by Yo La Tengo has some great piano

@Greatmeasures

Ай бұрын

Love Yo La Tengo!

@Unadapted

Ай бұрын

@Greatmeasures @Greatmeasures nice. That whole album, they worked more with a piano then i ever remember them do previously. Other piano songs I'd love to see your guys reaction to "Pale Clouded White" "Sea Swallow Me" Cocteau Twins. "Never Let Me Down" "Stripped" by Depeche Mode. "Alvin Row" by Animal Collective. "Travelling Through a Sea" "Poison Tree" by Grouper. And even though it's keyboard, "The World's A Mess; It's In My Kiss" by X. You got a new sub! Thanks for the reply and content

Top of the morning! Loved the vid 🎉 I'm here to propose slipknot unstained for the third time in a row 😸

DARK FUNERAL -ATTERA TOTUS SANCTUS !

It's not metal, but could I request Snarky Puppy - Lingus (We Like It Here)? It will be really interesting to see this reacted to!

Any gripe I have about this channel, stop looking at your watch like you're not being entertained. Be respectful! 🖖

Really should checkitout the package

🤔🤔🤔cool song

...Billy Howerdel was Adam Jones' guitar tech...

Back when you were in dope 😂 I love me some dope 😝

😅secretly checking your watch, how long is he playing today???

Bassist is Paz Lechantin

@sirshmiggins2786

26 күн бұрын

She left the band after the first album to go work with Billy Corgen. Jeordie White or aka Twiggy from Marlyn Manson did the bass for this album.

1st this song came out during a major life chamging moment, been rough since then, we remain Strong, but still feeling a bit Powerless (to some things)...More importantly, Yall got to talking about the Music of the song, and I remembered the Steve Vai "For the Love of God", then I remembered Oandora playing me Bucket Head's "Liquid Mantis"... think Yall would Enjoy it.

@Greatmeasures

Ай бұрын

“We remain strong” is very well said. Hang in there and thanks for continuing to hang with us!

@sarahwilliams-curto6750

Ай бұрын

Thanks for Being Yall!! Lots of Love to Yall!!

Check out the Surrounded album by Tipper. You will not be disappointed.

Its Paz on bass!!

@Xenon0000000000001

Ай бұрын

It was Jeordie White (a.k.a. Twiggy Ramirez) on bass for 13th Step.

Whish it would have been 3 libras lol

Ravenous by Arch Enemy? I havent listened to them in a while but I thought about them when you guys mentioned that word. Saw them live in CGY 15 or so years ago. They put on a great show.

More

If you guys like reacting to Tool you would love Karnivool. And I recommend the song Deadman

I would have went with "Pet", but any track from this album is a good choice.

Thinking about electronic music: I wonder if Judson would like "Strobe" by deadmau5.

I thought the intro was Chopin's Funeral March

Any chance a review of Cradle of Filth, something like A Gothic Romance.. lyrically and musically fantastic (vocals are a problem for most)

@sirshmiggins2786

26 күн бұрын

Something from Her Ghost In The Fog would be awesome!

Ya I don’t care much for Lincoln park much either. The whole woe is me, I’m so depressed theme gets old and doesn’t age well when you get older.

How did you guys get clean? Methadone, Suboxone, Cold? Cuz I’m struggling with fentanyl addiction right now and I’m down to just 2-3 of them a day and can’t fucking get through it and it’s been years now and it’s killing me and I’m a metal musician. I do guitar covers of a ton of bands you feature here…Tool, Killswitch Engage, Meshuggah (yes I have an 8 String), A PERFECT CIRCLE, so I can relate to you guys on many levels and I’m hoping you have some advice.

@Greatmeasures

Ай бұрын

Ended up going to treatment. Completed a medical detox and remained abstinent since. I tried to do it on my own for a long time, but couldn’t do it long term. We can talk more in depth about it if you want to reach out via email. I would love to try to help point you in the right direction. thegreatmeasures@gmail.com -Richard

@ZolFox

29 күн бұрын

That really means a lot. Thank you. I love the dynamic of this music reaction channel. It’s the duality between you two that makes this far too entertaining to me. It’s unfortunate though for us musically inclined individuals trying to create any kind of music related content here cuz of how ridiculously hard they came down on music regarding copyright issues and stuff. I’ve actually been playing guitar for 25 years and I play drums and bass and do my own vocals as well, metalcore style singing/screaming. I majored in Performance Classical Guitar in college so I have that style as well. Many have said I do the only correct covers of dozens and dozens of songs on KZread. Like The Outsider. Check out my cover of that if you feel so inclined. I think it’s the one on my main page. But I think I might contact you once I re-evaluate where I’m at cuz what I’m doing clearly isn’t working and well…maybe I’ll hit you up to figure out which direction to start heading in or you being successfully rehabilitated, might have the knowledge to help let me know what would work and what definitely wouldn’t. Congratulations on your sobriety. I know how hard it can be (I was clean for a short stretch). I’m very thankful for your response.

@sirshmiggins2786

26 күн бұрын

​@ZolFox Sundown M Ranch in Washington state is one of the top treatment centers in the country. I've been struggling with a Heroin addiction and went there recently and it helped alot. I'm currently doing the Vivitrol shot you do once a month and it really helps curb the cravings and it also blocks the dopamine receptors so if you do use again you don't get that high feeling and it helps you stop thinking about the drug breaking the cycle of fixating on getting high.

@Greatmeasures

26 күн бұрын

@@sirshmiggins2786 I’m a supporter of Vivitrol, especially in early recovery. I hope your journey is going well so far. I’m not familiar with that specific treatment center, but I’m going to look into it. I work for what I believe is the best treatment center in the state of Mississippi. We have people from all over the country come here for help and I sometimes get asked to help out with options for aftercare if people are going back to other states once they complete our program.

@ZolFox

26 күн бұрын

@@Greatmeasuresoh I have a friend who I think went to that very treatment center. Like I mentioned, methadone ➜ suboxone did work for me about 12 years ago, after using for about 2 years which I attribute to a coping mechanism that began almost immediately after my first fiancé unalived themselves by hanging and I just came home and found them like that plus the additional trauma of being detained and interrogated for 10 hours because of “suspicious circumstances” like positioning and “inconsistencies in the observed scene and my recount of the event” and the lack of any note or any kind of indication of intention and I probably didn’t do myself any favors by flexing my eloquence, having a tendency to speak in hypotheticals and my frustration leading me to intentional be condescending to a bunch of, what was eventually investigated and proven to be, corrupt cops who were trying to influence me to admit I did something I didn’t because the repercussions of such were far less severe than if I attempted to prove innocence and failing, which was incredibly fucked up. Anyway like I said it worked for me and I was clean for about 5 years…until my current fiancé almost died in a car accident and was in the hospital for several months…like it was so bad when I first saw him, the skin on half of his face was separated from the skull and he was pretty disfigured from it and the head trauma changed his personality and I just had a “I give up at life” moment and also his prescriptions made this relapse extremely easy. I helped him relearn how to walk and we’re still together, but the constant reminder of what I thought was the universe being out to tear me to shreds lead this to go on for several years…I mean, it’s still going on and I’m starting to think I’ve changed too much for the same type of recovery to work for me, which is why I’ve asked for other options. If I had access to ibogain, I’d love to just go through that and be done with it, but of course it’s illegal even though it’s an almost guaranteed cure for opioid addiction, which is WHY it’s illegal. I’ve never heard of vivitrol so I’ll have to look into that. Also the suboxone from the first time literally ruined most of my teeth so I’d like to avoid that route completely. Thank you again for your suggestions.

Maynard said I. An interview.. perfect circle he's a lot more up front and more empathy in the lyrics..he explained as a woman can be more feminine than others. He's more a male version in ways

I think Howerdel was braining the band with a female singer, and suddenly Maynard pop'd in and wanted to be a part of it... Billy agreed, and then he regreted that, cause Maynard became like the main thing in the band. On the other hand... how could you say no to JMK.

substitute is someone or something that takes the place of another person or thing. As a verb, to substitute means to make such a switch etc fishing , 🎣 , Biking 🚴 , Painting 🎨 , car building , hang gliding, instrument 🎻 , writing ✍️, reading 📖, moter cycle riding! Horse riding , etc ! Or just get busy kicking the world’s fat ass !

THE PACKAGE

It just occurred to me that Richard looks like Eminem, if he was from the south and loved soul food.

Get the pianist together with troy Grady

👿🔱😈.. Ludwig..the man 🤘🤘🤘... Here is a band you prob dont know... Captian beyond..song.. Everything is a circle... Since yall like circles 👍😬

Ok, Lateralus...

I don't get how the similarities of tone to Tool are not obvious to people, it actually puts me off listening to this band sometimes, even though I respect the difference and quality at the same time. Some of their music is quite unique and great, but some of it sounds right out of Tool and can be hard to take seriously. Fans really hate it when you say that too it seems and try to say it is completely different, when clearly, at least some of it is probably not different enough.

I always thought A perfect circle was A play on the all star line up of the band.

@dan.j.boydzkreationz

Ай бұрын

"Pull me in, to your perfect circle" is a lyric from their song Orestes, on the first album. That's literally the origin

I totally understand why Judson hated Linkin Park. I remember when they were coming out alongside other bands like Evanescence and Papa Roach and just feeling disgusted by their emo and commercial sound.