A frustrated Gregor Townsend after Scotland's defeat to France

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🗣 "We're celebrating in the box because we can hear the TMO saying the ball was on the ground. We can see the ball on the ground."
🗣 "You've got to play better than the referee refs or than the TMO decides."
A visibly frustrated Gregor Townsend.
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  • @tommybyrne5745
    @tommybyrne57453 ай бұрын

    Irish man here , it was a bloody disgrace of a decision , Scotland were the clear winners .

  • @jamescopen9817

    @jamescopen9817

    3 ай бұрын

    and i back that ...bloody cheated..another irish man here

  • @user-st1du4ig8u

    @user-st1du4ig8u

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m Irish as well and agree that was a disgrace !!! The ref asked the wrong question to the Tmo !!! I’d go nuts if that happened us but Grand Slam here we come 🇮🇪🇮🇪

  • @raymonddedieu3580

    @raymonddedieu3580

    3 ай бұрын

    Je suis français et je trouve honteux l'Écosse méritait de gagner

  • @retroarcade3342

    @retroarcade3342

    3 ай бұрын

    Was tuilagis hand under the ball.. ?

  • @Baz502

    @Baz502

    3 ай бұрын

    You guys who say Scotland were cheated clearly know nothing about rugby processes. Has to be clear and obvious, and it wasn't. Couldn't tell that the Scot had control of the ball

  • @bennyhill2073
    @bennyhill20733 ай бұрын

    I m English and thats a shocking decision.

  • @nathanwhite3305

    @nathanwhite3305

    3 ай бұрын

    didnt ask where you are from

  • @bennyhill2073

    @bennyhill2073

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nathanwhite3305 brilliant 👏

  • @ecosse1982

    @ecosse1982

    3 ай бұрын

    am fae Dad's Bag but no Baghdad

  • @grumpygrumpasaurus
    @grumpygrumpasaurus3 ай бұрын

    Martian here. Absolutely ridiculous decision to not award that try. I'm embarrassed for all you Earthlings

  • @nathanwhite3305

    @nathanwhite3305

    3 ай бұрын

    didnt ask where you are from

  • @grumpygrumpasaurus

    @grumpygrumpasaurus

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nathanwhite3305 didn't ask you to comment here but yet here you are

  • @nathanwhite3305

    @nathanwhite3305

    3 ай бұрын

    @@grumpygrumpasaurus didn't ask your mum to be at my house last night yet there she was

  • @grumpygrumpasaurus

    @grumpygrumpasaurus

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nathanwhite3305 well she always was a bit of a goer

  • @andresdeks
    @andresdeks3 ай бұрын

    Saffer here, after being on the foot the ball was on the ground. Soon we will have a tmo to watch the tmo😂

  • @nzfreeski

    @nzfreeski

    3 ай бұрын

    yeah especially in finals of WCs

  • @EireAbu

    @EireAbu

    3 ай бұрын

    How do you know there wasn't a hand under the ball?

  • @nathanwhite3305

    @nathanwhite3305

    3 ай бұрын

    you dont have to say where youre from

  • @bobjacob4237
    @bobjacob42373 ай бұрын

    As someone from Ireland that's not how I wanted to see Ireland & England have the only chances at Grand Slam win with Scotland getting cheated. I wanted a more conclusive ending. But sure at least Scotland still has a chance at the triple crown while we have a chance to make history with the 1st back to back Grand Slam win in the 6 nations. It would have way more intresting if the right call was made and it was Scotland vs Ireland playing at game 5 in Dublin for the Grand Slam

  • @retroarcade3342

    @retroarcade3342

    3 ай бұрын

    Have you forgotten England?

  • @bobjacob4237

    @bobjacob4237

    3 ай бұрын

    Nope England 1 hell of a team & ranked 5th best in the world and 2 big wins behind them already although they were very close beating Italy by a penalty and coming back in the 71st minute to Wales. They actually nearly beat South Africa in the semis but they do need to get improve on their kicking game a little with Owen Farell out for the year. Should be a good game as ya can never 100% count out England. Although there is something special about it being Ireland vs Scotland for the Grand Slam in their final game. Scotland to win their 1st Grand Slam while Ireland to win back to back Grand Slams, either way it's a pretty big historical feat.

  • @Zomo1553

    @Zomo1553

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@retroarcade3342have you watched their 2 games so far. Boarderline tier 2 rugby mate

  • @retroarcade3342

    @retroarcade3342

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Zomo1553 they are still winning playing bad... don't underestimate England

  • @nathanwhite3305

    @nathanwhite3305

    3 ай бұрын

    you dont have to say where youre from

  • @Steve-mj9hp
    @Steve-mj9hp3 ай бұрын

    Irish here. Gutted for Scotland. As a neutra there the best team to watch.

  • @creekyknee

    @creekyknee

    3 ай бұрын

    As a Neutral, just after stating that you are Irish. So... you are not a neutral. And by the way, its spelled "they're".

  • @Steve-mj9hp

    @Steve-mj9hp

    3 ай бұрын

    @@creekyknee yeah, sorry about that. I was getting off the bus as I was typing. I also left out the letter "l" in neutral. But regarding games Ireland aren't playing in I would consider myself an neutral. I thereby make the choice to watch Scotland as they are the most entertaining team out there. Hope I cleared that up for you. 🙂

  • @creekyknee

    @creekyknee

    3 ай бұрын

    yep, good on you.@@Steve-mj9hp

  • @Bazx64

    @Bazx64

    3 ай бұрын

    Scotland not good enough as usual

  • @quietenglishman4179

    @quietenglishman4179

    3 ай бұрын

    They are good but I love watching Ireland. They play such a complete 15 man game. They're a joy to watch.

  • @georgebutts4734
    @georgebutts47343 ай бұрын

    TMO, VAR, councils, governments, all about as use a chocolate fire guards!

  • @chris850601
    @chris8506013 ай бұрын

    South African here. That was a joke. Inexplicable decision by the TMO. Well done Scotland, you won that game.

  • @christophegauducheau9027

    @christophegauducheau9027

    3 ай бұрын

    Your team like referees they always need of referees for wining so you should be silent 😂

  • @Zion66666

    @Zion66666

    3 ай бұрын

    @@christophegauducheau9027still bitter for getting your dirty French butts kicked at the WC? 😂

  • @chris850601

    @chris850601

    3 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@christophegauducheau9027another sour Frenchman. Learn the rules of the game and you’ll also win three knockout games in a row and two back to back world cups. Referees don’t win world cups. C’est la véritié, et vous savez…

  • @christophegauducheau9027

    @christophegauducheau9027

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chris850601 if you want if you are better after saying that so it s good fir you but a lot of people know the truth

  • @Frankabagnale33
    @Frankabagnale333 ай бұрын

    Irish fan here. Scotland won that game. Unfair call in the dying moments.

  • @johnmc3862

    @johnmc3862

    3 ай бұрын

    No clear grounding as by the rules.

  • @ardakolimsky7107

    @ardakolimsky7107

    3 ай бұрын

    Not according to the laws

  • @Frankabagnale33

    @Frankabagnale33

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ardakolimsky7107 hmmmm yea but on balance looked like it got down to me. Think it was a bit harsh by the TMO

  • @ardakolimsky7107

    @ardakolimsky7107

    3 ай бұрын

    But the TMO was following the law. Not his fault, the law is clear.@@Frankabagnale33

  • @ardakolimsky7107

    @ardakolimsky7107

    3 ай бұрын

    On balance, yes. But according to the laws of the games the TMO had no option@@Frankabagnale33

  • @Tellemore
    @Tellemore3 ай бұрын

    If i were a Scot I would be livid the try was disallowed but I would also be furious with Scotland for kicking away so much good possession and not playing rugby. Finn Messi-Russell needs a serious reality check for allowing his team to become to disengaged two weeks in a row.

  • @mec7556
    @mec75563 ай бұрын

    it was definetely a try, if you look at the TMO there is an angle from cross side where we see in two phases, first of all the ball on the player's foot then clearly on the line. it s a big mistake by video refereees and i hope that scotland coach will ask them to answer for such a decision because this is not acceptable not to take the right decision especially with all these video cameras that we have on the field

  • @flatspots101

    @flatspots101

    3 ай бұрын

    Be interested to see when the refs whistle blew in relation to when it appears to touch the ground. If the refs whistle blew for held up before that point it doesn't even matter. Scotland for some reason went really negative I feel in the second half. No attacking rugby. Couldn't beat a poor France at home. That sums it up.

  • @sevensevenalways7995

    @sevensevenalways7995

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly. Takes us from a shot at winning the 6n to also-rans for the umpteenth time. I'm gutted

  • @northernhound3899
    @northernhound38993 ай бұрын

    Dreadful decision. The TMO stated on live TV 'Nic, the ball is on the ground'. So, a try. Then for some inexplicable reason he changed his mind after asking again to see the same footage on which he had based his decision that the ball had been grounded. It’s either incompetence or something worse.

  • @niallsheehan474

    @niallsheehan474

    3 ай бұрын

    The ref called an on field try , therefore the TMO need to see CLEAR EVIDENCE of the ball on the ground to overrule it and unfortunately no angle showed clear evidence just a probability it was grounded . Blame the process for its lack of flexibility

  • @retroarcade3342

    @retroarcade3342

    3 ай бұрын

    On the ground does not mean over the line ... Grasshopper

  • @ciaranbrk

    @ciaranbrk

    3 ай бұрын

    @@retroarcade3342it was over the line and on the ground. I'm a neutral and they officiating team need to be reviewed.

  • @retroarcade3342

    @retroarcade3342

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ciaranbrk you actually seen it on the ground... wow.. nobody else could see that , what sort of TV have you got?

  • @fatkev1983
    @fatkev19833 ай бұрын

    Bigger complaint was the regular and repeated penalties France gave away on their own line the end of the first half, including a shoulder charge on the line, and no penalty try was awarded. Not even a warning to the French team. Obviously it is up to the discretion of the referee, but generally when a team give away 2 or 3 penalties away defending their try line, you get warned to drop that or the next will be a penalty try. Otherwise defending teams would just keep fouling in defence until the attackers accept a penalty kick. The TMO decision just rubbed salt in the wounds of Scotland giving the game away. Scotland did mess around in the 2nd half and should not have played that kicking game. Hindsight and all that. So, many people will remind Scottish fans of that... but still stands, the ref and TMO made a mess of the call at the end. But, it is crap we have to live with and all part and parcel of the game. The laws, and rightly named, always seem to be open to personal interpretation and very situational. I felt the ref was too quick to whistle held up and never properly checked if it was. He was on the wrong side to see clearly. In the old days he would have screamed at them to stop moving then review and even slowly remove players until they could be clear. Instead, he did the lazy modern thing and relied on TMO to try and clearly prove him wrong... which is always going to be an uphill battle. The ball was grounded, the ref and TMO agreed on that if you listen back to it... until suddenly deciding a blocked view suggested it wasn't. All that should have been looked at after that point of seeing it was grounded was when the grounding occurred - if it was before or after the ref whistled to call the decision. The only thing that could have been under the ball at that point was a hand, and a hand on its own rarely stops and egg shaped ball from being grounded. unless its clearly tied up, which it wasn't. Very difficult to handle a situation like that, but I strongly suspect before TMO a ref would have used to old logic of the ball has to have been CLEARLY held up after the whistle has been blown. Like an attacking player rolled on their back and ball tied up or a defending player has ripped it away or has control of it. A lower leg does not really conclusively tie up a ball, as shown in this instance. TLDR: Scotland gave the game away... but also got screwed by lady luck when they needed it. But, you can't rely on luck to pull you out of your own mess to win games.

  • @Ginger4789
    @Ginger47893 ай бұрын

    Problem is you have to play better to avoid these circumstances much better.

  • @nicolasaujogue4095

    @nicolasaujogue4095

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree with your point of view : Scotland had lots of occasions to kill the suspense, but somehow, they did not. That said, as a french fan, I totally acknowledge that the final call is wrong, and I feel sorry for our Scottish fellows

  • @keefy3517

    @keefy3517

    3 ай бұрын

    We played well enough to get over the line against France and score - yet were denied because of incapable officials

  • @unforseenlaboratories8017

    @unforseenlaboratories8017

    3 ай бұрын

    @keefy3517 did you see an angle that doesn't show a hand under the ball?

  • @sbok9481

    @sbok9481

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@unforseenlaboratories8017There was no hands involved you fool! The boot was under discussion.

  • @Laurentus

    @Laurentus

    3 ай бұрын

    Still doesn't make this not a robbery

  • @vnkhts6702
    @vnkhts67023 ай бұрын

    From a French, it was a clear try (except I think Russell is clearly offside at the start of the action, same as MdW after Fickou's break, 1m from the Scottish Line and nobdy notices!). Refs have too much influence on the game

  • @keefy3517

    @keefy3517

    3 ай бұрын

    Finn asked the ref if the ball was out. He said yes.

  • @nathanwhite3305

    @nathanwhite3305

    3 ай бұрын

    didnt ask where you are from

  • @andrewmuir3302
    @andrewmuir33023 ай бұрын

    Scottish Canadian here, you must have heard me screaming from all the way over here.

  • @finlaymorrison1838

    @finlaymorrison1838

    3 ай бұрын

    It got lost over the louder cries of Murrayfield

  • @RobinJohnstonphotography
    @RobinJohnstonphotography3 ай бұрын

    Disgraceful decision, makes a mockery of the whole game.

  • @billybronco4223
    @billybronco42233 ай бұрын

    Welshman here with English and Irish heritage (seems you have to disclose that before you comment). The referee on the pitch had the best view and was closest to the action and should have made the call. Replays were inconclusive, but someone else has commented that the referee called "held up" before the ball was grounded.

  • @nathanwhite3305

    @nathanwhite3305

    3 ай бұрын

    didnt ask where you are from

  • @matthewedmiston6918

    @matthewedmiston6918

    3 ай бұрын

    🤔 are you just commenting on what you heard someone else say or did you actually see the ball was clearly on the ground ???

  • @matthewedmiston6918

    @matthewedmiston6918

    3 ай бұрын

    And 😂😂 Nate

  • @StopTheRot
    @StopTheRot3 ай бұрын

    Genuinely poor decision. Why is the referees decision so important? Why is it more important than 4 minutes of slow motion replays? Most pundits were saying that they were 90% sure that Scotland scored. THERE YOU GO THEN - IT’S THE BETTER DECISION. (Not Scottish).

  • @fillipschris9510
    @fillipschris95103 ай бұрын

    As an Englishman the Scottish were robbed and the referee should hold his head in disgrace

  • @Sabhail_ar_Alba
    @Sabhail_ar_Alba3 ай бұрын

    Not a game for the neutral.Dire stuff from both teams.

  • @quietenglishman4179

    @quietenglishman4179

    3 ай бұрын

    If you think that was bad wait until you see the ping-pong game at Twickenham. That's an afternoon of my life I'll never get back.

  • @Natedawg38
    @Natedawg383 ай бұрын

    Not a good advertisement

  • @davidwalker2402
    @davidwalker24023 ай бұрын

    Scotland lost that game when they decided to play football tennis, they had all the momentum, they need to quit that shit…

  • @sebm6723

    @sebm6723

    3 ай бұрын

    Totally. I was at the game and there was a discernible difference between Scotland playing an open, expansive game (when they dominated) and playing a more conservative brand which let the French back in. Also, Duhan should get a crack at 13, he’s a line breaker and needs to be more involved. Dupont law sucks as well..

  • @Zomo1553

    @Zomo1553

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@sebm6723man duhan is bad enough defensivly on the wing. Jones and Tuipoltu put in huge defensive shifts

  • @thomasskywalker8893

    @thomasskywalker8893

    3 ай бұрын

    Scotland lost the game when the TMO decided to give France the game! Scotland played better. France as usual fell apart when they were down! Not like the French to give up when they’re losing!

  • @Ian-if2lf

    @Ian-if2lf

    3 ай бұрын

    Scotland were in the lead, it was France that started the tennis, so Scotland just showed them they were not going to get anywhere using that tactic, Scotland Lost the game when the TMO changed their decision to the wrong one

  • @nalaetsimba4400

    @nalaetsimba4400

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@thomasskywalker8893Don't forget you were lucky to win against Wales. Unlucky this time. That's rugby...

  • @bobjacob4237
    @bobjacob42373 ай бұрын

    It probably was a try and Scotland were robbed but the initial call was it wasn't a try it looked like it was placed down as there is a shot it was it was on the ground just no shot it was over the line on the ground. It's unfair for Scotland but these decisions can happen Ireland were on the reverse of it last week it wasn't a try but the initial call was it was a try even though it was placed in front of the try line. Ya have to play well enough where a bad initial call by a ref won't be a factor. Both teams played badly even though Scotland had quite a few chances to increase their score. France's try was a forward pass but France had another opportunity to score where Van Der Merwe was offside. Scotland barely scored in the 2nd half like last week against Wales

  • @lancasterj100

    @lancasterj100

    3 ай бұрын

    What is been asked here is was it a try or not, was the ball grounded or not, and not about Scotland's performance. The video evidence to clear to be see by all, so should the question not be did the ref and T. M. O play fair.

  • @bobjacob4237

    @bobjacob4237

    3 ай бұрын

    @lancasterj100 the way I saw it, it was a try myself but I also saw why they are saying there wasn't enough proof. What I saw was once the ball came off the players foot the ball moved in a downwards direction this would suggest the ball was over the try line but what I never saw was the try line and it being over the try line. I don't think there was conclusive evidence to overthrow the decision as a result. Scotland were robbed but the ref had no business making the initial decision that it wasn't a try as then it would have been a clear try as there was no evidence to suggest the ball wasn't grounded. It always sucks when these decisions are made. I'm 95% sure it was a try but that 5% would suggest it wasn't a try as I didn't see clear evidence to overthrow a decision like this it has to be 100%

  • @bobjacob4237

    @bobjacob4237

    3 ай бұрын

    Sometimes the ref gets it wrong and the TMO but when a decision like this costs a team a game it always hard to watch. When there are to many players all together it's very hard to get a camera angle at the pitch sometimes. Scotland did put on a better match of Rugby.

  • @Mulletman4

    @Mulletman4

    3 ай бұрын

    Better than probably

  • @rossmcmillan7316
    @rossmcmillan73163 ай бұрын

    That decision can be over turned rugby authorities need to do the right thing here and come out and award the win to Scotland if it was England they would demand this be put right

  • @yoe91
    @yoe913 ай бұрын

    This is just one of those games that are dreadful to watch from the first to the last minute and every single minute in between and that you're only relieved to be on the winning side and utterly gutted when on the losing side. Best to put it behind you and look forward as quickly as you're able to.

  • @quietenglishman4179

    @quietenglishman4179

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, I agree nothing to be proud of here and the England game wasn't much better. I hope the tickets weren't too expensive.

  • @hanoitripper1809
    @hanoitripper18093 ай бұрын

    That was a goddam try

  • @Mojo16011973
    @Mojo160119733 ай бұрын

    Truly shockin decision. Was unbelievable to hear how the officials came to their daft conclusion

  • @UncleKlausSchwab

    @UncleKlausSchwab

    3 ай бұрын

    No it wasn't. You assume clear means might have been.

  • @user-vd5un1kc8y
    @user-vd5un1kc8y3 ай бұрын

    Try or no try , wasnt Russell offside when he filched the ball a few moments earlier? If the try had been awarded would they have gone back to look at that and would it have invalidated the "score" anyway?

  • @jbw18866
    @jbw188663 ай бұрын

    Have to play for 80 minutes not 40 mins

  • @scottishbrother9721

    @scottishbrother9721

    3 ай бұрын

    Excuse me but France played what 20 minutes max. Fair enough shouldn’t be kicking the ball away. End of the day the tmo fucked up massively and should be losing his job only way to rule out byist TMOs

  • @keefy3517

    @keefy3517

    3 ай бұрын

    Played right up till the end and scored a try to win the game. Just denied by horrendous officiating

  • @user-oz7yb9np7c
    @user-oz7yb9np7c3 ай бұрын

    Another poor second half.We could have put it out of sight.France we’re rubbish and we let them back in

  • @gandigooglegandigoogle7202
    @gandigooglegandigoogle72023 ай бұрын

    scotland didn't play in second half....so, the result is what it is.

  • @keefy3517

    @keefy3517

    3 ай бұрын

    Played right to the end to get the ball over the line and ground it.

  • @towerdave4836
    @towerdave48363 ай бұрын

    English guy here and that decision was rediculous. It’s so important we have confidence in the officials and things like this just destroy it. Clearly a try.

  • @colinpeck8257
    @colinpeck82573 ай бұрын

    Ref was man of the match again, 70k witnessed a try 1 person did not, terribly biased decision, ref should be banned for life....

  • @graemeporte3105
    @graemeporte31053 ай бұрын

    Referee and the TMO bottled it & cowardice

  • @bigyin2794

    @bigyin2794

    3 ай бұрын

    That's the heart of it, and it's a big problem. The ref panics, chucks a hospital pass to the TMO who just falls over not wanting to be the guy getting flattened by social media, yet that's exactly where they both are. Ballsy call but wrong? At least they tried. Chickenflap and wrong?Error compounded and Massive pile on, because cowards invite it on themselves.

  • @DanielGillespie-qy1py
    @DanielGillespie-qy1py3 ай бұрын

    Watched the ball being grounded any other team would have got that.

  • @fishingstevie8830

    @fishingstevie8830

    3 ай бұрын

    Where was person from gave the decision ? As seen on live tv over and over was a Try . Know reg was an Aussie was it his decision or ?

  • @paulwhite7565
    @paulwhite75653 ай бұрын

    100% that was a try and the two seemed to indicate that but didn’t push it to the ref? Scotland won that match but need to rely on more points not a ref decision,as Finn said afterwards.

  • @paulwhite7565

    @paulwhite7565

    3 ай бұрын

    Tmo not two

  • @neilcarpenter2669
    @neilcarpenter26693 ай бұрын

    I think a lot of people are being unfair to the referee, he said he didn't see the ball grounded and sent the decision to the TMO , the TMO ultimately said that he didn't have conclusive proof that a try was scored so he couldn't overule the on field decision, personally i though it was a try however the problem with the system is similar to the problem you get with refered decisions in the cricket, once an initial ruling is given the pictures have to clearly show that the ref is wrong, it would make more sense for the TMO to have the final say because at present he is hamstrung by the original call of the on field referee , actually it would make more sense for the ref to look at the pictures to see if he believed it was a try instead of listening to another official in his ear . I think it was a try however unless they change the system this won't be the last time this happens.

  • @Mulletman4

    @Mulletman4

    3 ай бұрын

    Took me five seconds to see the exact frame that proved 100% that the ball was on the ground so no

  • @ABC-dw7pe

    @ABC-dw7pe

    3 ай бұрын

    Ref call = Held up = over the line Tmo checks and ball clearly on the deck = must be a try then if it’s held up over the line and that’s what they are checking to see if it’s up or on the ground. Then the TMO claims oh ehh it’s not conclusive. Well it’s there in full 4K UHD that it’s on the ground shown to everyone. But no, decision bottled - that’s fine … arbitrary rubbish as usual. A perfect example was Ireland v France last year - when Lowes foot was in touch scoring in the corner - his foot was shown in full HD 4K the next day as in touch -but at the time the TMO doesn’t bother to show the clip that his foot was out before touch down. And it’s a try. The people pretending TMOs are used in the purest form possible, perfectly adhering to the laws need to give themselves a check because it’s clearly corrupt and used precisely how they want and when they want certain teams to win. Same as football. There’s something dodgy going on at the top.

  • @Balloon_Juice

    @Balloon_Juice

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ABC-dw7pe absolutely spot on mate. If the ref was 100% sure he had seen the ball held up ( and he said "held up" ) why did he have to go to the TMO at all ? Just make the on field decision. As we know he went to the TMO which means he wasn't 100% sure of what was going on. So he should have said " any reason not to award the try" and let the video footage speak for itself. What resulted was an absolute farce between ref and TMO. Robbed.

  • @tonyking4
    @tonyking43 ай бұрын

    Sorry for Scotland but it looked like they grounded the ball after the ref had blown for 'held up'.

  • @naturearoundtheworld2425
    @naturearoundtheworld24253 ай бұрын

    This year there's only one team anyway. And that's Ireland! The 5 other teams are years behind.

  • @joe-vl3nd
    @joe-vl3nd3 ай бұрын

    Unlucky Scotland 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @handcrafted30
    @handcrafted303 ай бұрын

    There are no rule technicalities that excuse this. Bloody disgraceful.

  • @mysteryman6008
    @mysteryman60083 ай бұрын

    What every body is missing is that “conclusive” does not mean 100% certainty. It means making a conclusion on rational assessment of the evidence. The only rational conclusion is the ball moved off the foot and went onto the ground. The footage is very clear the ball dropped off the foot and had there been a hand or other human body part under the ball, the ball would not have dropped that much. The TMO made a very poor decision and did not understand the rule he was dealing with. What people are also missing is that their was a mix-up between the ref and the TMO - the TMO was waiting for the ref to say - I see the ball going of the foot and onto the ground and I think it’s a try. Instead the ref used the words ‘so YOU telling me that ….’ thus putting the responsibility back onto the TMO. The TMO then ‘shat’ himself and, not properly understanding what is meant by “conclusive” as used in the rule - made the wrong decision.

  • @babthegreat
    @babthegreat3 ай бұрын

    Thats what happens when you blindly follow any stupid law. At one point we need common sense... This is a great reflection to have in our society, not only in sport because it works the same

  • @cbarry88
    @cbarry883 ай бұрын

    Irish man too - Scotland were robbed - do not blame the TMO who has to give conclusive proof to the refs questions..the ref called it initially and should have stuck to his on field decision.

  • @unforseenlaboratories8017
    @unforseenlaboratories80173 ай бұрын

    The Mayo of rugby.

  • @johnmc3862

    @johnmc3862

    3 ай бұрын

    Hon’ Mayo.

  • @anglebars6084

    @anglebars6084

    3 ай бұрын

    @@portorportor8247mayo of rugby is Ireland chief with your “qf curse” bottle jockeys. “Dream it don’t jinx it” brother. Bunch of fools.

  • @joemoody7440

    @joemoody7440

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@anglebars6084😂 all talk no bit! Typical, get back to use when you win something, anything! Try aiming for a challenge cup and go from there!

  • @tommybyrne5745

    @tommybyrne5745

    3 ай бұрын

    oh the curse

  • @creekyknee

    @creekyknee

    3 ай бұрын

    So true. perennial losers. Scotland are better at losing games than winning them. At least Mayo know how to win games but not when it matters. Maybe Scotland should try and play Gaelic Football ? give up that ould Rugby, ye are crap at it.

  • @jonstephens682
    @jonstephens6823 ай бұрын

    Clearly a try for Scotland

  • @pilgrim3387
    @pilgrim33873 ай бұрын

    It shouldn't have come to that in the first place. Scotland nearly blew it last week, and this week, they did. Kicking the ball back and forth, sitting on a narrow lead.

  • @jezmcm
    @jezmcm3 ай бұрын

    I've mixed feelings on this game, I expected a fast frantic game you'd normally associate with both these teams which we never really got, but ultimately felt Scotland deserved the win, but I cant for the life of me understand why Scotland have this bad habit of going into a defensive mode once they take the lead, they should've pushed on especially when they had the opposition rattled like that.

  • @redneckReno
    @redneckReno3 ай бұрын

    sorry but Scotland blew it.....wasting all that time kicking and not playing any rugby....

  • @whoiswatchingyourback
    @whoiswatchingyourback3 ай бұрын

    He was looking for an excuse because he knew Scotland was going to get crushed by France. Trying to blame not having 5 of his players before the match even began,

  • @davidfleming4800
    @davidfleming48003 ай бұрын

    Which is worse var or tmo emmm both

  • @johnmckenna1823
    @johnmckenna18233 ай бұрын

    Scotland spurned 3 straightforward penalties, trying to be too clever by half going for scrums instead of certain points, which would have won the game. They've only themselves to blame. They did very well against a much Heather side

  • @anglebars6084

    @anglebars6084

    3 ай бұрын

    Hindsight is great right enough.

  • @davemoss6976

    @davemoss6976

    3 ай бұрын

    You cannot say things like that. Change one thing that happened and the whole rest of the game is different. Had they taken the early 3 points they might not have got the subsequent penalties,.at the time they were 3 points ahead, being 3 or 6 ahead is still just a converted try from being behind, so worth trying for more at that stage.

  • @seanquigley8041
    @seanquigley80413 ай бұрын

    Poor game to much aimless kicking Scotland and France haven't looked good this year

  • @PB22559

    @PB22559

    3 ай бұрын

    The England/Wales game was even. Yes, both games were close but the overall performances from the 4 sides left a lot to be desired.

  • @mrniceguyfrodo
    @mrniceguyfrodo3 ай бұрын

    Scotland stopped playing in the second half. Cry me a river Gregor

  • @Mulletman4

    @Mulletman4

    3 ай бұрын

    The call was still wrong nice guy

  • @mrniceguyfrodo

    @mrniceguyfrodo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Mulletman4 mhmmm you shouldn't be relying on a 50/50 call. Look at the team I support which is Ireland who are super efficient and take advantage of a weakened French team (Dupont)

  • @gerrykennedy9085

    @gerrykennedy9085

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m Irish too and we had no luck with a similar event against the ABs in the World Cup

  • @Zion66666
    @Zion666663 ай бұрын

    It was clearly on ground but was it over the line?

  • @andrewryancomedy
    @andrewryancomedy3 ай бұрын

    Both teams are not great overall anyway. A poor game showing that these teams are nowhere near good enough to even come close to winning a tournament of any kinda. Scotland were robbed of the win. Italy I think could do Scotland.

  • @chrissamson8973

    @chrissamson8973

    3 ай бұрын

    Really! Lol

  • @keefy3517

    @keefy3517

    3 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @keefy3517

    @keefy3517

    3 ай бұрын

    I thought it was us Scot’s that were the cocky ones?

  • @peterburke2838
    @peterburke28383 ай бұрын

    lot of crappy calls------everybody on the field and Murray field watched Penaud knock the ball on. The referee had a bad game. It happens

  • @JamesRattray
    @JamesRattray3 ай бұрын

    Refs Training training needs to be reviewed. Does their training include scenarios like this, with one ref in the car park and the other in a stadium environment? I would have a number of tapes from real games that they practice communicating and deciding. In this case the officials correctly identified the ball was grounded, but the main ref was hesitant about making the decision and the TMO let this poor decision be made.

  • @bulltraderpt
    @bulltraderpt3 ай бұрын

    English man here, I had £25 on Scotland, you barstewards...

  • @nigelseymour4850
    @nigelseymour48503 ай бұрын

    HAS ANYONE ASKED SAM SKINNER WHETHER HE ACTUALLY GROUNDED THE BALL???????

  • @lawLess-fs1qx
    @lawLess-fs1qx3 ай бұрын

    scotland don't do second halves.

  • @Camcolito
    @Camcolito3 ай бұрын

    If France had played much better Scotland would have played much better too to still lose by a score.

  • @michaelforde4373
    @michaelforde43733 ай бұрын

    Scotland hard done by

  • @fernandogoncalves3004
    @fernandogoncalves30043 ай бұрын

    If it were England I doubt the decision would be made by this bunch of hypocrites, everything is fine for them. That's why the Boks are better Erasmus. From Brazil with affection.

  • @daveyjuice7710
    @daveyjuice77103 ай бұрын

    One of the tries was s bit dodgy too. No 22 blue obstructed two tacklers . Don't worry son come back stronger

  • @davehogan6401
    @davehogan64013 ай бұрын

    Put your big boy pants on Gregor, a serious team wouldn't be in that situation

  • @gorgu08

    @gorgu08

    3 ай бұрын

    Think he said just that

  • @davehogan6401

    @davehogan6401

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gorgu08 no he didn't, just watched twice to be sure. I give Scotland shit because pre tournament (regardless of what it is) all we hear is Scotland are here to win blah blah blah, then all we hear afterwards is excuses excuses, rinse and repeat

  • @hanoitripper1809

    @hanoitripper1809

    3 ай бұрын

    @@davehogan6401so a team thats in a position to beat one of the worlds best at 80 mins isn’t a serious team… ok

  • @christskingdomiscoming5964

    @christskingdomiscoming5964

    3 ай бұрын

    Given all the close results and one point victories in international Rugby of late, there can't be many "serious teams" in this sport.😂

  • @davehogan6401

    @davehogan6401

    3 ай бұрын

    @@hanoitripper1809 no mate serious teams win, Scottish teams make excuses

  • @TheLucanicLord
    @TheLucanicLord3 ай бұрын

    To be fair, he'd be that dour if they'd just won the World Cup.

  • @84colm
    @84colm3 ай бұрын

    Scots didn’t play in second half.Completely shat the bed!Same old story.

  • @sebskilton110
    @sebskilton1103 ай бұрын

    I’m from Australia and I like ice cream…. Mmmm. It’s nice

  • @dubbaphatt3368
    @dubbaphatt33683 ай бұрын

    I didn’t see a ball being grounded at any stage of the review process. Ref didn’t see it grounded at the time, the video didn’t conclusively show the ball on the ground on or over the line, ergo it’s no try. Baffles me how people who actually watch rugby can’t process this. Unlucky the evidence want there perhaps, but the correct call was made in the end.

  • @gavinobrien3654
    @gavinobrien36543 ай бұрын

    Scotland are clearly a 40 min team this 6 nations. Playing against a disorganised rabble in France and yet Scotland found a way to lose. They insist every year that they're a match for any country and yet it just never materialises.

  • @joshhartley5352
    @joshhartley53523 ай бұрын

    Always the same for scotland if that's a bigger nation its given as try

  • @vdub8567
    @vdub85673 ай бұрын

    Step down gregor ,really poor Scotland!!!

  • @unforseenlaboratories8017
    @unforseenlaboratories80173 ай бұрын

    Windy Scotland deflate their country's fans again with another flakey performance .nice to see their hype balloon burst early in the tournament.

  • @patrickfarrell5092
    @patrickfarrell50923 ай бұрын

    Ahh now Scotland, enough excuses, 6 points up and decided to stop playing. Same as last week.

  • @Holloweve

    @Holloweve

    3 ай бұрын

    You’re the UK’s equivalent of USA’s Cuba. Run along

  • @matajaxss
    @matajaxss3 ай бұрын

    l’ecosse a gagner i’ts a try for scotland i’m french and the scotland win

  • @Kenny-zn6dl
    @Kenny-zn6dl3 ай бұрын

    In fairness, French boot under the ball and while it looked different from different angles they couldn't confirm that a hand or indeed the same boot wasn't under the ball, leaving all that aside Scotland decided not to kick two certain 3 pointers in first half and that was the difference between the two teams.

  • @LostInSweden-cc2zu

    @LostInSweden-cc2zu

    3 ай бұрын

    The referee was a yard away. He should have recommended a try.

  • @Kenny-zn6dl

    @Kenny-zn6dl

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@LostInSweden-cc2zuhe couldn't because it wasn't!!

  • @unforseenlaboratories8017

    @unforseenlaboratories8017

    3 ай бұрын

    Fron his angle it didn't look grounded .loads of teys are disallowed because of grounding not been seen .Towsand out .decent players with poor coach

  • @johnmc3862

    @johnmc3862

    3 ай бұрын

    @@LostInSweden-cc2zuA yard, like that lots!

  • @christophepoittevin9488
    @christophepoittevin94883 ай бұрын

    C'est pareil quand Kolbe commence sa course avant qu'il ait le droit face a un tireur de penalite. Pour une fpis qu'un arbitre desavantage un pays anglo saxon on va pas s'en plaindre.

  • @user-wf3tu5ur5u
    @user-wf3tu5ur5u3 ай бұрын

    Tmo guy should lose his job absolutely shocking

  • @quietenglishman4179
    @quietenglishman41793 ай бұрын

    I'm not convinced these southern hemisphere referees are up to the job, The one who refereed the England match was not much better. There's a pool of British Isles lads who'd be a better bet.

  • @Lucky0Wretch
    @Lucky0Wretch3 ай бұрын

    With some of the best athletes in this competition, Scotland once again showed a lack of mental fortitude to finish. They only have themselves to blame.

  • @keefy3517
    @keefy35173 ай бұрын

    Joke of a decision. Injustice done. What’s the point of these so called professionals if they can’t do their one job correctly? I understand the issue with referees being harassed but these things need to be called out. The tmo and referee nick berry should not take part in another test.

  • @aughalough1

    @aughalough1

    3 ай бұрын

    What’s going to happen now is the ref and tmo will receive death threats, or will we step this low like the kiwis

  • @keefy3517

    @keefy3517

    3 ай бұрын

    @@aughalough1 no way should anyone receive death threats. But in a professional environment you should be held accountable for your mistakes. Any other workplace you are called out for not doing your job correctly.

  • @FlyingWoolf
    @FlyingWoolf3 ай бұрын

    Talk about passing the buck !!

  • @WB-kx7jw
    @WB-kx7jw3 ай бұрын

    Bottlers😂

  • @user-rn9co7jc4t

    @user-rn9co7jc4t

    3 ай бұрын

    Indeed

  • @TheLRider
    @TheLRider3 ай бұрын

    Wtf did Scotland not spread it wide to the right with all of France surrounding the ball. Scotland's own fault.

  • @adamtier3263
    @adamtier32633 ай бұрын

    Scotland can't see out a game, 60min teams don't win trophies!

  • @Breton-furieux
    @Breton-furieux3 ай бұрын

    Je comprends maintenant pourquoi on n'a pas été champion du monde .

  • @PhilipPhilDavies

    @PhilipPhilDavies

    3 ай бұрын

    Bring back dupont.

  • @aughalough1

    @aughalough1

    3 ай бұрын

    France were a much better team at the World Cup.

  • @alejandrocardoso2670
    @alejandrocardoso26703 ай бұрын

    Con Inglaterra en el.mundial tuvimos q sufrir este referee sin huevos para cobrar.

  • @christophernorman4353
    @christophernorman43533 ай бұрын

    French too classy Scotland lost momentum

  • @boyceyboyley
    @boyceyboyley3 ай бұрын

    Fair result .

  • @AB-lq1zd
    @AB-lq1zd3 ай бұрын

    Scotland think they're better than the actually are. Always have an excuse but they don't have the mentality or skills. Why would you risk being held up with the last play of the game when France were completly sucked in!?

  • @user-wf3tu5ur5u
    @user-wf3tu5ur5u3 ай бұрын

    Cheated all l can say

  • @martinfarrelly5196
    @martinfarrelly51963 ай бұрын

    Yeah but you didn't see the hand under the ball just like you didn't see the ball on the ground. No way can you see anything. No try. Scotland lost it themselves.

  • @stevenrobertson8329
    @stevenrobertson83293 ай бұрын

    Robbed, again.

  • @James-ih4gz
    @James-ih4gz3 ай бұрын

    Was really typical Scotland performance they could of won it but they didn't take there chances

  • @boom4301

    @boom4301

    3 ай бұрын

    The irony of this comment, that’s exactly what they done😂 They took their chance what a stupid comment

  • @eoghanfinnegan6119
    @eoghanfinnegan61193 ай бұрын

    Scotland has great players and Townsend is a great coach but it's probably time to rethink the setup....... they have to go to Dublin and their odds aren't good

  • @user-jt7tg3sp7s

    @user-jt7tg3sp7s

    3 ай бұрын

    When you say great..????

  • @user-jt7tg3sp7s

    @user-jt7tg3sp7s

    3 ай бұрын

    Rugby is a team sport, so a couple of great players just won't cut it.

  • @jamess3408
    @jamess34083 ай бұрын

    Scotland stopped playing in the second half, that is the truth. France were there to be beaten. The try should have been given, but it should have come down to that! 😘

  • @shane-irish
    @shane-irish3 ай бұрын

    Worse decision ever poor scotland

  • @johnmc3862

    @johnmc3862

    3 ай бұрын

    No clear grounding, that’s the rules.

  • @shane-irish

    @shane-irish

    3 ай бұрын

    @@johnmc3862 clear try

  • @mafrjo742
    @mafrjo7423 ай бұрын

    🧂🧂😆

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