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That idea to block both the rook and bishop from defending using the knight was way too good
@amaarquadri
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there's a special name for that type of move, although I can't remember it.
@robertakerman3570
Жыл бұрын
This study is akin to onion layers of "clever".
@flpsnk4848
Жыл бұрын
Isnt this called like Novotny trick or something
@zionsaal4419
Жыл бұрын
6:15 Stockfish plays in this position Be3 instead of Bg3 and its a draw
@pinco2012
Жыл бұрын
@@amaarquadri Interference!
6:12 instead of Bg3, black can play Be3 and that's a draw
I wonder what happens if at the start you move b7 to b8 and under promote to a knight with check..
@mynameiguess4956
Жыл бұрын
İts lost. Its -3
It was found that at 6:13 Be3! draws in 2002 by a Dutch endgame composer. A corrected version was published in 2003. See Tim Krabbé’s open chess diary entry 220 for analysis.
@christopherheckman7957
Жыл бұрын
It's like an onion ... The layers never end ...
6:15 Stockfish plays in this position Be3 instead of Bg3 and its a draw
@diophantine1598
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, hard for humans to verify chess puzzles by hand.
Wow, this puzzle won first place and yet it has a hole in it as pointed out elsewhere. With best play, Black is drawing this. Bg3 was a blunder. If Black plays Be3 instead, he can hold by then playing his Bishop to h6, capturing the pawn on f8 as it queens, and then sacking his rook for the pawn on g7. Black then gets the second pawn with his king and moves over to attack the final White pawn. White is forced to defend the pawn with his Knight, at which point Black will attack the Knight. If it moves, the final pawn is lost and it's a draw. So White has to give up the Knight. And we're left with a K+P vs K ending where Black draws.
@a-trainstudios2360
Жыл бұрын
Well then we have a puzzle for black (to draw) It's still tricky
@Kambyday
Жыл бұрын
Also at 4:51 black can go for graw by repetition
On move 6 black could simply play bishop e3 and it‘s a draw.
What an amazingly rich study for so little material. Forks, a Nowotny at 7:00, and even a bishop-promotion seemed plausible.
@Twiphed
Жыл бұрын
Whats a Nowotny?
@jovindsouza3407
Ай бұрын
@@Twipheda very rare tactic, the Novotny Interference. The idea is that Black needs to defend against two threats, but the lines that are being used to defend the threats intersect at one point. Here, Black needs to keep his rook on the f file and his bishop on the h2-b8 diagonal to stop the pawns, and those lines cross each other at f4. By dropping the knight on that intersection point, White forces Black to take it with one of their pieces, this defending one of the threats, but blocking up the defense against the other (in this instance, by taking with the bishop, black would have blocked the rook, and vice versa)
Great puzzle
I absolutely couldn't do this on my own. Even the half of it.
Very awesome puzzle! This is almost my everyday thing so i can improve slightly on solving positions that might happen on me.
It's something supernatural! The puzzle is really brilliant. Thanks 4 interpretation, fab!
Not a chess player, never searched chess on YT, but was recommended your vids and I like them so you get a sub. The algorithm smiles upon thee.
@richardfirthucsb
11 ай бұрын
Do you play chess now? I found these and quit MtG for chess.
@oyakata-sama4408
11 ай бұрын
@@richardfirthucsb I do, but very casually with friends and family only. Also funny that you mention MtG, that and YGO are also games that I don't personally play but enjoy hearing someone explain the game theory that goes into it. 😆
4:51 what If black goes rook F1 and tries for a repetion draw
Awesome puzzle!
WRong this is in fact a draw my engine says 1.Ne3,f1Q+ 2.Nxf1,Rxf1+ 3.ke2,Rf2+ 4.ke1,Rb2 5.Ne6,Bf2+ 6.Kd1,Be3!! 7.F7,Bh6 8.f8Q,BxQ 9.NxB,Rxb7 10.Cxb7,Kxb7 and it is a draw becuase you cant protect the last pawn to promote it and knight and king cant cheackmate
Very possibly the coolest chess puzzle I've ever seen
Amazing!
I actually picked up on a lot of the ideas in this one pretty quickly, felt damn good
@jmjm9294
Жыл бұрын
Same! Even though it wasn't that hard for me, it's still my new fave puzzle.
"This *guy* is becoming a *queen* " 💀
incredible. this is the most complex position i've ever seen
@ChessForSoul
Жыл бұрын
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6:35 I think here in this position If white pushes the f pawn Black has to sacrifice his rook And it is winning for white Because after that he can always knight d7 and promote the b pawn and trade the bishop and knight Black can still capture one pawn but White's king is close to protect the remaining one and then he can promote it and win
@robertakerman3570
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure this is a nice comment; but since IDK, we'll wait 4 someone.
@mohamedpedrou2898
Жыл бұрын
@@robertakerman3570 Actually I was mistaken This is not winning for white it will end up in a draw if black made the right move. After white taking Black's rook with the Knight on f8 Black should move his king to b5 Like this he is threatening the two c pawns and his bishop is blocking the b pawn from promoting White will play nd7 to protect the pawn on c5 and the b8 square then black will capture c6 pawn with the king Then white has no choice but to promote, black would sacrifice his bishop to prevent this and when white takes the bishop with the Knight, Then the c5 pawn will be with no protection and the king will capture it White is left with only a king and a knight it's a draw by insufficient material Sorry to disappoint you
@mohamedpedrou2898
Жыл бұрын
@@robertakerman3570 The thing I missed when I wrote the comment is that I thought that black will go after the Knight and try to trade it with the bishop But if he rather goes after the pawns and let the Knight live he can draw this way
@robertakerman3570
Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedpedrou2898 Don't get Me wrong- I am no "chess-player". Love the game, yet never caught on.
@mohamedpedrou2898
Жыл бұрын
@@robertakerman3570 Me too I am not a "good player" I just play for fun and I like these puzzles
great puzzle!
7. 36 sec Rd4 + kc2 or Ke2 Bxb8 Queen is the free pieces
Nf4 was a very brilliant move holy bananas
@ChessForSoul
Жыл бұрын
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7:00, why you cant only take the quem with your pawn? Th horse is defending hin of the tower or you cam moveC7 because the gorse are defemdig and if bishop takes the horse take and you take the quem
great video, keep it up
Awesome puzzle
@ChessForSoul
Жыл бұрын
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7:35 after Rd4+ black is completely winning the queen and position with not losing the rook
@Stxlks
Жыл бұрын
After Bishop takes on b8 we have f8=Q
@studytable2060
Жыл бұрын
@@Stxlks yes
6:12 what if black plays bishop to e3 with the idea of stopping the pawn with Bh6?
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577
Жыл бұрын
Knight takes bishop
@Sergio09
Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiaanpeekstok4577 the Knight cant take the bishop
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577
Жыл бұрын
@@Sergio09 idk what i was thinking a month ago lol
@Sergio09
Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiaanpeekstok4577 ok
At 6:45 why not just push the pawn to c7 since it’s covered by knight? If bishop takes you take with knight and then rook can not cover both pawns about to queen
At 6:13 (after Kd1) what if Black plays Be3, with the plan of using the bishop to stop the f pawn and the rook to stop the b pawn, instead of the other way around? My engine evaluates that line as a draw.
@VictorianoOchoa
Жыл бұрын
... Be3 f7 ... Bh6 f8=Q ... Bxf8 Nxf8 ...Ka7 Nd7 and I think there are at least a couple of ways to win this endgame
@kaiyi1218
Жыл бұрын
@@VictorianoOchoa After Nxf8 black can give up the rook for 2 pawns and his king makes it in time to take the 3rd.
@VictorianoOchoa
Жыл бұрын
@@kaiyi1218 ... Rxb7 cxb7 ... Kxb7 Ne6 ... Kc6 Kc2 ... Kd5 Kc3 ... Kxe6 EDIT: Black gets the opposition here. you're right-it's a draw.
@unclegreyball
Жыл бұрын
@@VictorianoOchoa no need to play Ne6 first after Kxb7 ... Kxb7 ... Kc2 Kc6 ... Ne6 Kd5 ... Kc3 Kxe6 ... Kc4 white now get the opposition
@wcheng2795
Жыл бұрын
@@unclegreyball Opposition doesnt matter here, Blacks King is in front of the pawn. Be3 ends in a tablebase draw after Bxf8 and Nxf8
Mindblowing
could you put the PGN/FEN of positions you show in the description of the vid next time? Would be really appreciated, thanks!!
@ChessForSoul
Жыл бұрын
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Astonishing! !! !!!
@ChessForSoul
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7:29 Rook to d4 Check then you Cant take the rook
technically... the start position is a puzzle that contains all (or at least most) other puzzles ever.
Actually there's something wrong in the video Here 5:50 If black move be3 instead of giving a check he will get a draw Because then his next move is bh6 to prevent the f pawn from promoting While the rook will watch the b pawn This will make him escape the nf4 trick And if white tries to come close to the rook with the king black will simply move to b5 And if white tries to block the second row with knight and approach the bishop with his king then black sacrifice his rook by taking b7 pawn, and then he can take 2 unprotected white pawns with the king If white puts knight on d8 to protect both pawns on the 7th row it leads also to a draw
@W.E.
Жыл бұрын
1. Ne6 Be3 2. f7 Bh6 3. Nd8 Is this what you meant ? Your Move for Black, please ?
@mohamedpedrou2898
Жыл бұрын
@@W.E. Rb4
@mohamedpedrou2898
Жыл бұрын
@@W.E. Or bf8 That works too
@W.E.
Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedpedrou2898 c7
@W.E.
Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedpedrou2898 also c7
I've already comment this, but so it doesn't get lost in the wall of text: At 10:45 I was thinking push that light squared pawn. If black's bishop takes either pawn, we can just take the bishop, and if black does something else, *now* we can take the bishop and protect our final pawn. Could you please maybe run through why that doesn't work?
@jgspthighlights491
Жыл бұрын
King B7
7:37 why rook to d4 line wasn't mentioned? It looks more promising because king can no more take the rook.
7:51 if re1+? Edit: nvm went and checked it’s pretty obvious lol
Pretty interesting . . . starting (more or less) with a Novotny interference.
There is a flaw in this puzzle. When rook is on b7 and bishop is on f7 and it is a Black's turn, it will move bishop to d6 and game is a draw to the best of White's ability. Please clearify if possible.
Hi Nelson, another insane puzzle: N7/PPPPPPPP/K1k3qB/brpnn3/7N/6rb/8/8 Mate in 8 moves (W.A.Shinkman, 1908)
nf4 was "super easy; barely an inconvenience" once you made us choose that knight defense... where else can it go that the other spot didn't defend? c7 was pretty easy, too. Honestly, it was all the clever Black defenses that were amazing! Ba7!
Nf4...cagey double blockade. 😂😂
10:42 Nelson really said a sus thing here
Why not advance pawn to B8 and promote to a Knight?
What happens if rook d4+ gets played? How do we win there?
What about taking the rook, and moving your left pawn forward instead of making a queen
🤣It's a DRAW
What if, at the beginning, you promote the pawn to a Knight and check the King?
I mean bishop d3
Chessception:The Knightmare Castle promo be looking nice, not gonna lie
At 10:14 don’t move king to e 2 because rook f 2 is protected by bishop which in your video is shown and instead move c2 and if rook moves f 2 and chases you go to d 6 to protect your pawns and your king.
7:33 rd4+
5:19 did you come back and explain what happens after Nd7?
@PixelatedDude
Жыл бұрын
Its because at 7:00 u need the knight there in order to block the bishop or the rook
@jeffs8753
Жыл бұрын
if you go Nd7 you cannot reach the F4 thats the whole problem of going Nd7 instead of Ne6. dont ask me what is black tactics are after Nd7 but you need to get that queen to win against the 2 minor pieces
King to E2.
@andyclark8991
Жыл бұрын
Get in
6:57 why not make a queen here f8=Q? and if Rxf8 then Nxf8 followed by Nd7 to watch the b8 queening square and with 2 connected white should able to promote
@ConutGnuz
Жыл бұрын
Nxf8 can't be followed by Nd7 because white doesnt take two turns, also after Nxf8 black would play Kb5 attacking the c6 pawn and if you play Nd7 after that black would play Kxc6 triple forking the two pawns and the knight forcing you to queen the pawn, the bishops takes it, you take the bishop and then the black king takes the last pawn leaving you with a K + N vs K endgame which is a draw
@zionsaal4419
Жыл бұрын
@@ConutGnuz 6:15 Stockfish plays in this position Be3 instead of Bg3 and its a draw
@ConutGnuz
Жыл бұрын
@@zionsaal4419 yeah, i plugged it in myself and saw the hole in the problem. the entire puzzle isn't a forced win.
7:01 I actually got the movw
At 7:33 rook goes to d4 and it is completely winning for black
@TomBarrister
6 ай бұрын
10.Kc2 Bxb8 11.f8/Q wins.
Can someone walk me thru what happens if white underpromotes to knight on the first turn here?
@dreamerofthorns
Жыл бұрын
Nvm. White can't deliver a second check, guaranteeing the M5
2:42 how can we be sure Black takes our Knight? What if they don't?
9:23 what happens, if you don't capture the bishop, but move your king, let's say, Kf3?
@Yqe-
Жыл бұрын
Bishop takes the queen, then white can't save their pawn from being taken by black king
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grgreateat puzzle
6:50 found it in like 15 secs it was fun
cool
why didn't he just get a queen at Pf7 - Pf8 anyway at 6:41 ? Black could take the queen with his Rook but the knight takes the Rook afterwards. Why wasn't that idea ever seen as a possible timeline?
@BrawlStarsPearl
8 ай бұрын
You dont need to say "P" When You see a pawn move (just The pawns file)
It's a simulation... inside a simulation.
Ayy I found Nf4 and c7
i said pawn b8 promotes to knight
11:20 can't you walk the king
First use my Knight, C4 to D2.
@andyclark8991
Жыл бұрын
Done Knight to wrong position.
Pawn C6 to C7.
Awesomw
what?!
Puzzleception
Pawn F7 to F8. Then using knight take the rook.
@andyclark8991
Жыл бұрын
Chess Vibes I know that you listen to people comments, you stated in your previous videos. Chess Vibes love your videos. Instead of doing Knight E6 to F4. You did Pawn F7 to F8. What would happen then, would White still be able to win. Mate. Love to know, love to know. The outcome. Thanks
@ConutGnuz
Жыл бұрын
@@andyclark8991 after the knight takes the rook the king would go to b5 forking the two pawns. you could just put it in an engine yourself btw, the puzzle is flawed because the engine lines give a draw at the start and the reason why black lost is because of Bg3 trying to guard a queening square twice
here's a puzzle for youse. start with a chess puzzle and figure out a half believable way this came about
3:12-3:25 I was thinking just play the check, but yeah, that works too. 5:58 but after f7, what about Bd6? 6:52-6:59 So, funny story. This move did cross my mind, but I discarded it because as I see it, when black takes with rook (it must be rook, because if black takes with bishop, you could just queen with the f pawn) you are pretty much in the same situation as the last turn but without a knight. 7:09 Herp, duh. The rook cuts off the bishop's diagonal, leaving the b pawn in the same situation as the f pawn had Bishop taken the knight. 10:45 I was thinking push that light squared pawn. If black's bishop takes either pawn, we can just take the bishop, and if black does something else, *now* we can take the bishop and protect our final pawn. Could you please maybe run through why that doesn't work?
gmorning
@-mark9386
Жыл бұрын
Good morning to you too.

chessception
This kind of puzzle is injurious to brain :) You should put warning before publishing😅🤣
its like those russian nesting dolls?
@zogzog1063
Жыл бұрын
inside a mystery wrapped inside an emigma
im 1000 elo and i can solve the mini puzzle
Khó thế nhỉ.
Can somebody please give me a chance
Go to minute 6:13. This position is a complete draw. There is no forced win for white. Instead of black playing the losing move bg3, black plays be3. Dead draw. Complete dead draw. This video is wrong.
This thumbnail and title are extremely, clickable, saying as a below-average fan.
It really made this video really bad. I was all happy and astonished but then I saw that stockfish put it in as be3 for the dead draw and it ruined the entire video. All that work for nothing
Hi Nelson! I found this nice longmover: 8/8/5K2/2p1pNp1/2p2kp1/2p1N3/4P3/8 w - - 0 1 Mate in 21 Moves. Not too difficult, but nice symmetry!
for the people who live in the place this game happend, *kaasbroodje*
♘f4 = Nowotny, right? What about ♜b2 followed by ♝e3 instead of ♝g3? The f-pawn can be stopped with ♝h6 then.