90's OASIS vs 00's OASIS: Ten Reasons Everything Changed
New fans of Oasis are often surprised at the difference between Oasis in the 90s and Oasis in the 00s - so why were the two versions of the same band so different?
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Guigsy is such a mystery. He was in one of the biggest bands in the world and yet no one knows anything about him.
@tricky3119
Жыл бұрын
You mean Guigsy 😄
@richardmoss5139
Жыл бұрын
They don't even know his name 🤣
@conorkelly4953
Жыл бұрын
@@richardmoss5139 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@theculturedthug6609
Жыл бұрын
@Joe Owen Why because I spelt his name wrong... And you are right I'm not a massive fan just take a casual interest in them. Wouldn't say it was "fake" though.
@techbro404
Жыл бұрын
@Joe Owen Behave. Noone likes puritans!
It happens to most bands but when you think the likes of.. Go Let It Out, Roll It Over, Let's All Make Believe, Gas Panic, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Little By Little, The Hindu Times, Songbird, Born On A Different Cloud, Lyla, The Importance Of Being Idle, Keep The Dream Alive (very underated), Let There Be Love, Shock Of The Lightning, The Turning, I'm Outta Time and Falling Down.... were ALL released after the crazy magical Oasis Mania 'mad for it' period of the 90's when arguably they had past their peak of success then they had plenty of great songs that most bands would kill for in the noughties...
@garrydunbar1535
Жыл бұрын
bag it up, waiting for the rapture, shock of the lightning, from last album , 3 tunes sam fender n the likes can only think about churning out! Oasis truly the last of the greats,
@buellerferris
6 ай бұрын
Lyla, Born on a Different Cloud are shit.
@robertovalero6186
3 ай бұрын
I also like the so called 'filler"songs on their later albums.And i also like the B-Sides that go with their later albums.
@chicow97
Ай бұрын
and for me one of the greatest: who feels love
I wish Dig Out Your Soul got more love. I have been a fan since the beginning and that album is still one of my all-time favorite albums. It's been nearly 15 years since its release and I still can't get enough of that album.
@generalcustard1
Жыл бұрын
For me the first 7 tracks are great and then takes a massive noise dive
@richardmoores
Жыл бұрын
@@generalcustard1I love soldier on the best. I think that album is the one where the new lineup properly found its feet, but unfortunately it was the last.
@ciaranfahy4689
Жыл бұрын
Nah its my least to be fair there underrated ones but that's by far my least Im Outta times is great but no the rest idk not great
@englishkiwi3051
Жыл бұрын
@generalcustard1 I'd say first 8... TBWTL is great as it's so different and you could never imagine it being on any of the other albums except perhaps SOTSOG.
@kg7219
8 ай бұрын
Don’t believe the truth and heathen chemistry are their weakest albums and they’re still great albums which is why oasis is one of the best bands to ever do it ayyy
Just to let you know when Bonehead left the band there was another substantial reason why. He was the only member of the band that lived up north in Manchester whilst the rest of the band lived around the London area. The constant travelling obviously had an effect on his family life thus chosing to quit.
@b00ts4ndc4ts
Жыл бұрын
I think bonehead was a bigger part of that band than they give him credit and was one of the wild ones that gave them that rock n roll image. In the early interview would tell the press who oasis were.
@ChainNonSmoker
Жыл бұрын
@@b00ts4ndc4ts yeah and theres plenty of footage available :D
@timkasansky2528
Жыл бұрын
the rockers never, ever, sounded as good after Bonehead left. Rock 'n roll star, Supersonic, Acquiesce and stuff were always sounding a little whiny in the 00s.
It’s not only Oasis that changed in that time, their fans also changed. Grew up, discovered new music. The band couldn’t feed of that 90’s fan fever anymore and had to start rediscovering themselves at the detriment of their music.
@vampirewilde
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Would've liked to hear more about how Britpop's decline impacted the band.
Oasis stopped being a band as soon as Tony, Guigsy and Bonehead departed. You can never underestimate the power of the gang mentality in a band. The whole parts become the driving force. After that era you could have literally stuck any session musicians behind Liam and Noel and it would've done the job but never have the same vibe.
@cockshield
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! They were no longer the "5 lads from Manchester who took on the world" anymore.
@wales123100
Жыл бұрын
they never bettered definitely maybe it shows you can bring in more talented players but they lost the edge that drove them
@DandanGallagher
Жыл бұрын
This.
@johnrambo3831
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it. My brother and I have been saying this for decades
@myoung8951
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I thought Whitey replacing Tony was musically ok, but the heart's gone when the original rhythm section go offski. xx
I like a lot of 00's Oasis songs but there's no 00's Oasis album where I can listen to the whole thing without skipping a few songs.
I think British culture changed in the 2000’s and the days of the ‘lad’ were numbered. Also think that Noel was evolving and mellowing as he grew older, it’s totally natural. I don’t think Oasis intentionally changed there sound for a new audience, they were just evolving.
@markgreet3543
Жыл бұрын
Excellent points, kind regards.
I'm a big fan of 00s Oasis but I completely agree that there was a reduction in quality and "magic" with their post 90s output. That Noel interview that you used is one of his best. Noels so honest in it and his usual ego bollocks isn't there. But I think he definitely was depressed during that time period and was fed up. (Famously leaving the SOTSOG tour). Its interesting though, because during the press tour of Heathen Chemistry, Noel was very positive and he seemed excited to be in the band again. His relationship with Liam seemed strong and he was very proud of Liams songs on that album. In an interview he said something along the lines of "I've grown to love that boy so much". It was during the Don't Believe The Truth tour where the relationship seemed to sour and by the Dig Out Your Soul tour, the tension and anger on stage was pretty uncomfortable to watch. But yeah I love all eras of the band. Some great tunes during the 00s and I don't think they every released a bad album. Just some better than others.
@FuckinLibertine
Жыл бұрын
OASIS FROM 00s WAS A BEST "BAND" WITH GEM, ANDY. OASIS IN THE 90s WAS ONLY NOEL SONGS AND LIAM VOICE.
@RacingWorldTV202
Жыл бұрын
I think the continued decline of Liam's voice and the brotherly dynamic they had is what did it. Liam progressively got worse and then Noel threw that ultimatum at him after the 2007 Brits performance, likely because it was supposed to be this big celebration of their work but the media was more fixated on how Liam's voice had declined. Then Liam kinda doing whatever he wanted when DOYS was recorded, then the long, arduous tour and more vocal decline...all until that infamous fight that broke the band up. If Liam had gotten things right with his voice, I think they would've lasted longer but who knows? In Noel's words, Oasis was never meant to go 12 rounds.
@T-Dawg-lp2sh
Жыл бұрын
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@stunod1479
7 ай бұрын
SOTSOG? Really? Sheesh. Use your keyboard.
@robertovalero6186
3 ай бұрын
@@FuckinLibertineI also like Gem and Andy"s songs.Thank You For The Good Times is great!!!!
This is such a fantastic channel, James. You treat this music with an intellectual seriousness that is pretty much unprecedented. It may even be more than it deserves -- but even so, every single video is full of flashes of brilliant, generous insight, and you perform the material with passion that is contagious. Your points here about Alan McGee, Owen Morris, and Brian Cannon are extremely trenchant.
@ryanjavierortega8513
Жыл бұрын
Music deserves intellectual analysis
@Chanelson2010
Жыл бұрын
Oasis are a serious band and deserve serious consideration
@stunod1479
7 ай бұрын
Too much speculation and random opinion of "what could have caused this"... At times I feel like I am watching a teenage girl gossiping. But I cannot stop watching this hairy man and his cheap tawdry clothes under the bright lights. The camera is SO close!
Long said it - Who Feels Love? is one of the most underrated Oasis songs by far. Very experimental, psychedelic, and phenomenal production. I know it’s on an album that’s way down the pecking order of Oasis fans, but I always doffed my cap to that song.
@georgecase5908
Жыл бұрын
sounds incredible live IMO
@chicow97
Ай бұрын
actually my favorite oasis song! the production is insane! the dust brothers, right?
James, you forgot to mention that even Alan White's drumming declined in SOTSOG and HC, and he was a big part of Oasis sound in MG and BHN.
@OrgaNik_Music
Жыл бұрын
He didn't "forget", he chose ten reasons that changed things in his opinion. Just because a content creator doesn't include absolutely everything doesn't mean they "forgot". Comments like these are the most useless of the useless.
Fantastic job James! Really thorough but concise look at all the different factors (and people) that were replaced. Now I know why I fell out of love with Oasis by their 4th album. I love how this video highlights just all the different factors and people needed to create a masterpiece. It's not just Noel's songwriting, the drugs or the stage in his life, not just Liam's voice deteriorating; but the producers and talent behind the scenes that pushed the band to accept nothing but perfection 💚
@SeanDaRyan
Жыл бұрын
ahh each album after Be Here Now has at least 3/4 good songs on them. Theres some great ones in there actually.
@rubberchix
2 ай бұрын
Totally disagree and BTW wrestling is FAKE
You hit the nail on the head with McGee's pressure and Noel's "that'll do" attitude. For DM and WTSMG, Noel was picking the best 10 or 11 songs from 100 he'd written. By the time it got to the 2000s, he was writing 10 songs and using them all.
@paninovevo1162
Жыл бұрын
For Standing On The Shoulder he left out some great tunes that would have made the album much better
@KramerMC5
3 ай бұрын
The first two albums were both great. But, on record they slid. Perhaps still a great live band but that was it.
I get Noel keeping tunes to himself for his solo career due to liams voice declining live. But I don’t think liams studio performances ever declined, they changed but I actually prefer some of his later studio performances (gas panic, who feels love, stop crying your heart out, turn up the sun, let there be love).
Your attention to detail and the nuance you bring to this subject is, in itself, a work of art brother. Keep up the good work 🤘🏾
The decreasing quality/amount B-sides element is not *entirely* on Noel, IMO - the entire singles industry was changing at this time. Fewer B-sides on singles was the norm, after a few years of people rinsing two different versions of every single. I think the chart rules as to how many tracks were allowed on each single also changed.
Wow James, you've just put into words and described what I had always thought or felt regarding Oasis's decline in the 00s. It's just brilliantly analysed. I appreciate that you mentioned Brian Cannon, whose work was definitely an important part of the Oasis experience. I remember waiting with excitation for the new artwork to be revealed...
@martinc5118
Жыл бұрын
It is indeed a great video
I´m a young oasis fan from Germany and I absolutely love your videos! You have such good explanations for the questions I´ve asked myself since I started listening to their music and falling in love with the band. Thank you!
These videos keep getting better and better. What a fascinating insight into Oasis during that period of time. Great work James, keep em coming!
Really enjoy your Oasis based video’s James. The effort you put into them and all the knowledge is absolutely fantastic.just want you to know I personally really appreciate the videos.
"Bonehead was being an asshole to someone we were working with", what, like Noel was to The Real People ?!
Thanks James, insightful and great stuff as always. Will contact you when my album is ready 👍
Wow.. An amazing, enlightening take on what changed in and with OASIS, the 90ies into the 00ies!!.. For me this was your best one yet, James.. Thanks greatly, m8... 😎💙
The difference in the art direction of the record covers was so jarring at the time. You knew before even hearing SOTSOG that things had changed, and not for the better. Great analysis overall, James. Keep up the good work, fella.
Fantastic Documentary, I really appreciate the effort you put into these.
Love your channel James, brilliant videos. Think Podcasts may be the future with interviews with all your subjects
James I’ve been following your channel For a few months now and if I ever need to explain or help anyone learn about Oasis I’ll gladly point your channel and expertise out for those who wish to understand this band Keep it going man
Excellent video. I missed the boat on the mid 90's Oasis but got into them around the time of "Familiar to Millions". Absolutely BRILLIANT performance in a packed Wembley Stadium, "Go Let it out" hit No.1 and was a killer track as were "Gas Panic" & "Who feels love". A couple of years later I bought WTSMG and found it very abrasive and rough around the edges. I took it to a muso friend (professional guitarist). He listened to it and said it was very distorted. I realized years later this was due to Owen Morris's "Brickwalling" technique. I've come to love both eras of Oasis but understand that many older fans have a deep emotional connection to early Oasis for many personal reasons. It was also a time that the hype over this 'new and exciting' band was cranked up to 100, so it's no wonder they were EVERYWHERE. Just like Noel said in a couple of interviews people change as they get older, most of us are not the same person we were in our teens or 20's. I recall he also said "Most bands usually have around 5 years at the top" before everything changes. They rode that wave from 94' - 99' and then like clockwork it all changed. I think the change was good b'cos you get to enjoy both versions of Oasis (Pre 99' and post 99'). Best of both worlds IMO.
I love you Jimbo! Such great in-depth insight into the Gallaghers as usual. You are a master of this, thanks for entertaining me with these videos, and please may they continue. Big love
this is a fantastic channel mate, only discovered it today… I just want to say thank you for your hard work that goes into it
@JamesHargreavesGuitar
5 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
Such a brilliant video James! Thanks so much for sharing 😁
I still think Oasis were pretty good in the 2000s. The reason why that era is so dismissed is because in 94-96 they were on track to become a genuine all time great band, and after they'd run out of steam they were "just" an ordinary good band. They also couldn't pull off changing their sound completely like Blur and Radiohead did (ironically Dig Out Your Soul in the dying stages of the band was probably their best attempt at evolving their sound)
@fshoaps
Жыл бұрын
They did "evolve" their sound. Listen to "Be Here Now" and then "Standing On The Shoulders", you'll notice the introduction of a softer slower sound, and drum beats. Not to mention Liam starting to write, and the band becoming more Beatles-esque.
@ososnake97
Жыл бұрын
dig out your soul it is indeed the best thing they did in the 2000's but it got nerfed due to the poor songs choices and liam refusing to sing the tracks that were originally planned to be in it (record machine, come in come out) forcing noel to rely on 3 very bad songs ("aint got nothing", "high horses" and the horrible beyond understanding "nature of reality") resulting in a good album that could have been way more interesting. dont believe the truth is a decent album but totally forgettable and heathen chemistry is just horrible. SOTSOTG was a good album but also suffered from the poor song choosing and has in it some of their absolute worst (i can see a liar, little james, put yer money where yer mouth is). why noel didnt put "lets all make believe" is a mystery and a sacrilege
@fshoaps
Жыл бұрын
@@ososnake97 What’s wrong with “Ain’t Got Nothin” ?
@ososnake97
Жыл бұрын
@@fshoaps is a horrible song mate, at least in my books. If you wanna hear a good song from liam that's soldier on
@b00ts4ndc4ts
Жыл бұрын
Mate Oasis is a rock n roll band, not fucking shandy drinking art students like blur. You don't re invent the wheel, look at acdc, have you ever seen them play jazz?
Another excellent video with some really good points. The Noel interview is also a really good and revealing one. I think the panic attack point is key. Up to that point it seemed like five lads having the time of their lives with every thing they touched turning to gold. Be Here Now was their first misstep, couple that with excessive drug use, the paranoia that can bring plus Noel's panic attacks and suddenly everything is far from rosy. The loss of Guigsy and Bonehead then rips out the heart of the band and what you're left with is musicians doing a job. The respective talents of guigsy, bonehead and gem and Andy also mean the sound of the band, live at least, changed. I feel like at this point Noel fell out of love with the idea of Oasis. He says in the interview about how he had loads of music that he wasn't going to explore with the band because he wanted them to be high energy rock and roll(I think that was more or less the phrase he used?). I'm sure some of that was down to Liam insisting on what they should sound like but it meant they didn't really explore any other avenues and like you said failed to evolve with the music scene around them. It's one of my biggest regrets with the band, why they never tried different stuff. Noel would often talk about it, he would often talk about new songs being out there and different sounding but come the album it was same old Oasis. I believe that's because he felt that that was the oasis sound and was what people wanted. Personally I'd have been really happy if he'd genuinely pushed the boat out sonically - even if it turned out shit. There's a little bit of it on the last album but by then it was way too late. In terms of quality control I both agree and disagree. Things like the album art and terrible logo change I agree with. In terms of the b-sides yes the last album was a joke but he still had some absolutely brilliant b-sides on the other albums. Let's all make believe and cigarettes in hell are better than the A-side(Go let it out) for example. Idlers dream is a great little song as is just getting older from the same single(hindu times). The trouble is I think Noels always had a problem with which songs to put on the album. It didn't really matter with the first two albums because everything was more or less amazing. It's when he ran out of ideas and the quality of his output decreased that it became more of an issue. How the hell no one thought Let's all make believe wouldn't make SOTSOG better is beyond me. There's more I want to say but I've forgotten just exactly what it is as I've written loads already so I'll leave it there. No, I won't I've just remembered one of the things I was going to say. Liam singing less and Noel singing more. In the 90's Liam sang 95% of the songs. In the naughties Noel sang loads. Sunday Morning Call and Where did it all go wrong - back to back noel sung songs on a 10 track Oasis album! And a lot of the b-sides were Noel sang. I remember either reading or seeing an interview where Noel said that Liam couldn't be arsed going into the studio to sing b-sides anymore so he(Noel) had to do them. I don't know how much truth there was to this or whether Noel just preferred singing them or if Liam's vocal issues were the problem but having more and more Noel sung songs also diminished the old magic a little as Liam and his voice were such a big part of why Oasis were so special. Edit: so after a brief bit of b-sides research it seems that Liam was happy to sing b-sides he, Gem or Andy had written but doesn't appear to have sung any Noel written b-sides after SOTSOG. Which is interesting... Anyway, great band, great channel!
You’re such a natural at this James. Love your work mate. Thank you. 👊
wow what a great video. i’ve always loved the depth and detail of your videos.
Gas Panic is fucking amazing. It's like Slide Away's evil twin.
I think ‘Truth’ is the best overall record they ever did. Great sound, great clothes, great videos, images and collective writing. Just my view
loved this. would be great to see more latter days Oasis content.
A big thank you from a Dutch Oasis-fan James! Great insights!
Your first point about Noel’s childhood is astonishingly overlooked. Noel’s childhood was physically and emotionally abusive. Horrendously so. His father beat him for no reason. Worse still, Liam, for no reason was never abused. People with such trauma in their childhoods sometimes become well rounded, passionately good people. Some become toxic, pathological liars, who blame everyone but themselves. I’ve read all oasis biographies and Tony Mcarolls book. Noel seems unpredictable, selfish, blame-anyone but himself, sees people as objects. It’s not his fault. It takes years of therapy for the average person to deal with this, even if they decide to. He didn’t, he gained the wealth and power to eject people he didn’t like from his life. My understanding is everyone who left the band had enough of being insulted by him and dictated to- it just wasn’t fun anymore. He claims Liam physically attacked him wielding a guitar and that’s why he doesn’t speak to him. Many peoples have said this is rubbish. Imagine you’re angry, so you get up, retrieve a guitar from another room and return wielding it like an ax. Then what? Noel never says what happened next. When talking about his month long c0ke binge you don’t hear any remorse, or any feeling of “I made a bad decision” not even any frustration all the time effort and all the other peoples time wasted. I don’t understand how a brother can completely cut ties with another. He doesn’t even use Liam’s name in interviews. Says things like “his lordship claims he had laryngitis”. Meanwhile Liam seems genuinely hurt when asked about it. Notice he likes kicking his brother when he’s down. Liam is a baritone and Noel is tenor meaning Noel has a higher vocal range. So it’s unpleasant to say he had to lower the key of songs or that’s why he sang in Acquiesce. But his narrative was always Liam can’t hit the notes. As if that’s Liams fault. Always framed in a negative light. I’ve no idea why people ignore the fact Liam has hashimoto disease - an autoimmune disease meaning his voice box was becoming squashed. Imagine being considered the best singer in Britain then having no clue why your voice is failing more and more no matter what you do. He could have lived like a monk and the same would have happened. You can hear his vocal range start to reduce. Then after 2000s symptoms got very bad. Your voice doesn’t degenerate in less than 10 years from effortless, crisp high baritone to crippled so much you can’t sing whatsoever. Many vocalists have abused their voices had drug addictions, supported snack habits and sang during and after they got clean. How many legends from the 70s thrashed their voices, are still alive and still singing fine. Lemmy of Motorhead drank smoked and did whatever he wanted and belted out his songs till the day he died. Oasis were a ten year flash of lightening. It gets boring hearing the narrative Liam managed to entirely destroy his voice in just a few years with his lifestyle, when the cause was medical. Always love your vids mate. Huge Oasis fan (from DM to BHN) I find their story so peculiar.
Great Video. I have to say though that some of my favorite Oasis songs other than the usual suspects on the first three albums are songs like "Gas Panic", "Turn Up the Sun" and "Born on a Different Cloud".
You really explained a whole lot in this video and tied up alot of loose ends that I always wondered about. Cheers mate🤘
They went from being an epic indie rock band to regular pub rock where every single song sounded the same. The first two records are among the best records in rock history.
Thanks to your channel, I think I've learnt more about Oasis in the past 24hrs than the past 25+ years 😆!!! In all seriousness, this is a really good video summary and I do agree with a lot of what you've said about the changing sound/feel of Oasis between 90s & 00s. I've always felt that the line-up and production changes was the key difference, but it's interesting to learn about the other factors as well. While I do enjoy a lot of their 00s tracks in themselves, I am personally biased towards 90s era because I grew up during the Britpop years and was brought up on that sound thanks to my Mum - so there is a lot of nostalgia there.
Hi James love the channel! Any chance of you doing a video on the effects and tone of supersonic? Especially the solo parts. Driving me mad not being able to figure it out!!
This is a top music channel. On the way to 100,000 subs. Great work.
Another excellent video - I never realised how much liam's voice changed or thought about the mix. Could I request a ranking video for the albums at some point? I'd love to hear how you'd order the post 2000 albums. Personally I found Don't Believe The Truth really forgettable so would place it very bottom.
Oasis in the 00's were still amazing. Some of my favorite tunes were later stuff. More overlaying melodies, maturity, and going beyond simple bar chords rhythm section. Bands change and grow.. Please Please Me vs Revolver...Out of our Heads to Exile...Good bands simply change. Some like it..some don't. Personally, I love later Oasis.
@dezzee100
11 ай бұрын
Except Revolver is much better than Please Please Me. Oasis died in the arse after 95'
I cannot believe that you skipped over Liam's hashimoto's diagnosis. Seriously - if you've ever had it, you know that it has a tremendous impact on your vocals.
@msv7856
Жыл бұрын
I have bust up nose-itis. It's not because someone punched me in the face. It's this other peculiar thing. If he mentioned hashimotos, it would totally ruin the video. Mainly because that is bullshit. His screamed his voice out in a unnatural way and it got severely damaged. Simple as that.
@korf79
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure it could not have been because of abusing drugs, cigarettes, alcohol and partying. It MUST have been hashimoto ;)
@msv7856
Жыл бұрын
@@korf79 Defo bro. It wasn't like it was his fault his voice went terrible. Nah, he was just lucky and got disease enit...
@galetinm
Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha
@jamesthecat
Жыл бұрын
@@msv7856 Yes, and that ridiculous stance he had when singing didn't help, either.
That Noel quote at the end about their records being sold forever hit hard! His vision changed dramatically in less than a decade-a tad sad actually. Excellent video, mate.
I actually think they became a better band. As in Alan White, Gem and Andy are better musicians technically speaking but in the process they lost that raw edge and young hunger. Noel should have definitely saved some of them B sides for later albums. Blew the load too quickly.
@hermanhawtrey8578
Жыл бұрын
So you really mean they became a worse band.
@iamthenarwal9559
Жыл бұрын
@@hermanhawtrey8578technically speaking they became an incredible band but in the context of rawness they became iffy
Giving an American perspective here. After Morning Glory, ofcourse on this side of the pond, everyone was waiting to hear "Wonderwall" and "Champaign Supernova" again. I saw them on the BHN tour in 97, GREAT show, epic show, 2 sold out nights at the arena, people still didnt fully absord BHN yet. But that would be the last time they did 2 sold out nights at an arena in the US. BHN just did not connect with American audiences. SOTSOG got an even smaller push and after that, the mainstream here just didnt get any of it, not the music, not the Gallaghers personalities (we liked the mystery of Thom Yorke, the 'nice guy' Chris Martin was easy to digest) but not the brashness of the Gallaghers, as Noel slipped far into the derivative 'dad rock' sound. I supposed the same could be said in the Uk, but at least they were still releasing radio singles there. Of course, us hardcore fans never left and I still enjoy many tracks off their later records. Noel has said in interviews they were never on the right foot with the US side of the label even at their 90's peak. Tours here were frequently disasters for one reason or another. ... Still a hall of fame band in my book!! Oasis is one of the most influential bands of the 90's that still influence bands to this day!
@mumbles215
Жыл бұрын
Not all of us yanks didn’t get the Gallaghers. That’s one of the things I liked about Oasis. Their attitude. Fighting. Pocketful of drugs. Calling corporate pigs swine in pressers. That’s rock n roll. I agree about most wanting WW part 2 and such. I saw them in 96, and 98 and had the changed to work with them (Noel and Gem in 2000) but yeah the magic was gone a few weeks after BHN was released and people couldn’t digest it’s derivative dribble.
@Davide-zc5np
8 ай бұрын
They sold out much bigger arenas in 2005 and 2008 in Usa
Another lovely video. Thanks mate. Between the age of 14 and 17, Oasis absolutely were absolutely everything to me (1994 - 1997) and from that point onwards I fell out of love with them. It was really interesting to hear from you some of the reasons why that might have been.
Class video again mate love em👌 have you got any vids on the stone roses and how they would write songs? Would love 2 know who took the lead in lyrics and ideas with certain songs ? Or just more about the roses in depth cus there’s not a lot about haha, don’t worry if not , great vids anyway geezaaaa 👍
Just got to say that Tokyo interview with Noel is amazing. Watched it last Christmas. Great watch.
Oasis were more about attitude and lad culture. You cant carry that on when your a middle-aged millionaire. Their edge was totally gone post-97. They were the type of band that should have disappeared after 2 albums. As Marvin Hagler once said "its harder to get out of bed at 5am and run 10 miles in the snow when you wake up in silk sheets".
The magic Oasis had in the 90's was because of their youth, new break out band on the scene, the era and the sound of rock during that time. They were a group of young lads with fire in their bellies to succeed and they came out the gate swinging with everything they had. By 2000 they were entering their 30's and the sound of rock was beginning to change, it's no hard to understand their sound and style would have changed too (for better or for worse) By that time of course they weren't the same band, even some of the founding members had been changed out. It's really not a mystery or any wonder what happened, they changed their sound with the changing times like every band does. I absolutely love their first two albums, and it holds up well because the sound is genuine and sincere. You can't expect them to write the same music for 20 years straight and still expect that to be true
This is fascinating. I love a deep analysis when it comes to changes in a bands' output and when the spark is diminished in different areas. Reminds me of the slow decline of The Ramones after Rocket To Russia.
@KramerMC5
3 ай бұрын
Then again the Ramones first three albums were awesome, Oasis made two and The Libertines made one. Perhaps The Clash made four.
Brilliant analysis as always
Alot of people think that 96 Kenworth was Liam's best as a vocalist but I think Live By The Sea in 95 is.
Oh I'll also say that even when Oasis declined they still had 2 or 3 tracks on every album of the quality that lesser bands base their entire careers on. "Gas Panic", "Go Let It Out", "The Hindu Times", "Stop Crying Your Heart Out", "LIttle By Little", "Lyla", "The Importance of Being Idle", "I'm Outta TIme", and my favourite Post 90s Oasis track "Falling Down". I guess you could say in the 90s they were the Beatles and in the 2000s they were the Stones.
@rabsmiff
Жыл бұрын
over half of these songs you mention, I am afraid I do not recognize them, and I am a fairly wide-ranging music fan who seeks stuff out actively ---- however even the most uninterested music fan would likely recognize the 2 or 3 best tracks from a Beatles or Stones album from a similar point in their careers.
@user-oh7iv3ij5x
Жыл бұрын
The Hindu times, Gas Panic and I’m outta Time, three of my favourites then Stop crying your heart out I think almost everyone in the world heard that one. Epic songs
@tallowmangaa7884
Жыл бұрын
You right about how the bsides totally declined ..
@brunocenere2217
Жыл бұрын
@@rabsmiff He's not talking about the fame of the songs. He's saying that the quality is insane
@elfranco7011
Жыл бұрын
The Beatles and then the Stones? Wtf are you talking about! I take it youre 15yr old
Really excellent. I'm in the states and was a very big Oasis fan from the start. I definitely noticed the drop in the number of quality songs per album as time went on, but I never really closely followed what was going on in their private lives and with their inner circle of creative people. I noticed the change in producers obviously, but many bands do that as a natural evolution and the need to feel growth, whether the change actually works or not. I also noticed the democratization as more non Noel songs popped up. I figured that Noel's output was drying up a bit, and that the band might have needed more songs than he was delivering, but that was just a guess, I didn't really know what was actually happening within the band. I know that they never matched the excellence of the first two albums (imo), but I always gave the newer stuff a shot. There was ALMOST always something good/great on the later albums but they lacked the fire and consistency. All that being said, the last Oasis show I saw in 2005 at Madison Square Garden in New York was absolutely fantastic, and the crowd was some weird time travelling crazy bunch of nutters that thought they were at Knebwirth in '96!! I have never experienced a crowd like that, and it was very exciting to be there. The band were great that night, but the crowd was better! I'll always have a big warm and fuzzy spot in my heart for Oasis.
Great video nerd, thank you. Personally I think the abandoned Death In Vegas stuff was a real missed opportunity to reinvent themselves and to update their sound. Kasabian came along a few years later with that exact sound and blew Oasis out of the water. Any thoughts?
@inazumaajax9939
Жыл бұрын
I have never heard about this, what is the abandoned Death in Vegas stuff?
@CharlesDarkson
Жыл бұрын
@@inazumaajax9939 It was supposed to be the album after Heathen Chemistry that was scrapped in 2004. A few of the songs from it were reworked and redone for Don't Believe The Truth, but the recordings have never come out.
@inazumaajax9939
Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesDarkson does it have any connection to the band Death in Vegas because Liam Gallagher features on one of their songs and I think it came out around this time
I've always found Gem a rather bland, uninventive guitarist. Not untalented, but the kind of guy you'd expect to see in a slick but generic covers band. At least with Bonehead you had that reliably loud, brash and basic rhythm style which gave Noel the chance to shine on lead guitar, and establish the "classic" Oasis guitar sound. After Gem joined, Noel didn't seem to put so much effort into creating iconic riffs and solos, and their overall guitar arrangement style seemed to prioritise texture over power, which is nice in itself, but much more suited to softer bands like Travis and Coldplay than raw power we had come to expect from Oasis.
@decc0484
Жыл бұрын
this is exactly what i've been thinking but i couldn't put it into words, bonehead was definitely a massive part of oasis' sound in the 90s. almost every song from the first three albums is instantly recognisable from either its riff or solo, post bonehead the guitars almost seem to melt into a lot of the songs and don't catch your attention like they used to
@user-oh7iv3ij5x
Жыл бұрын
@@decc0484 When Bonehead plays with Liam the songs sound so much better he had cancer but hope he comes back when he recovers
@decc0484
Жыл бұрын
@@user-oh7iv3ij5x yeah agreed, thank fuck his scans have come back all clear, would be great to see him an liam live
@ffedor77
Жыл бұрын
Bonehead era was buy far BEST
@kommissar.murphy
Жыл бұрын
Making the Boss look good is half the job....
I might be the exception, but SOTSOG is the first Oasis album I have ever heard as a kid and I didn't really listen to any of their earlier stuff before well into adulthood and while I admire their first two albums a lot, their fourth is still my favourite Oasis album to this day.
@ososnake97
Жыл бұрын
imagine lets all make believe instead of little james. there you have, another good album
@dylanmcgivern668
Жыл бұрын
I think it only gets beaten by the first two
Fascinating stuff, as always mate.
Great video James.I wiil defend SOTSOG though because i think Noel still had a desire to prove himself even though he kind of backed out with the song choices in the end.Also 2000 is my favorite year of them live (yokohama 2000 and 1st Night at Wembley being some of their best gigs)
As always you’ve done an excellent job of bringing an spot on analysis to this great band. And certainly all these factors played into a diminished version of the band. That being said Go Let it Out, the Hindu Times and Shock of the Lightning are actually some of my favorite Oasis songs. They hit in a way that was just on my groove at the time. And I also think Beady Eye’s Bring the Light is one of the best songs of the early 2000’s. That song kicks man!
I think the reason they stopped doing 4 tracks on singles was that at some point in the 00s the rules changed on singles, wasn't allowed more than 15 minutes of music i think, otherwise it wasn't eligible as a single. This is a distant memory and one i can't be arsed to google right now. Happy to be corrected if anybody knows what the single eligibility rules were changed to
@goops1071
Жыл бұрын
Also cd single sales generally were dwindling as the 00’s went by. With people burning mp3s on to cds etc
@simontunnicliffe2107
Жыл бұрын
Yes I mentioned this above, it was, I'm almost certain 20 mins max and no more than 3 tracks.
@irishnewfoundlandbear7400
Жыл бұрын
Not sure of the time but the number of tracks comment is spot on. Surprised James misses that
Loved this, would like to see a doc on noel solo career, music x
Brilliant presentation!
Interesting one James. Agree with most of your points individually. I do think though that it can not be overstated that Oasis' first few albums were magical because of their youthful energy, and Noel's working class optimism at the time of writing, without any of the pressures and expectations they would have had to live up to later on. That said, the one thing I'm not sure I agree with you on is I actually DO think they managed to keep themselves relevant in later years, with massive hits like Lyla, Stop Crying Your Heart Out and The Importance of Being Idle. Hardly any of their peers, or contemporary rock bands like Kings of Leon, have been able to do that and stay so present and relevant as they did. As Noel says in your video, it just so happens that the first couple of records were SO massive that everything else could be perceived as a failure by comparison. Keep up the vids sir; always an interesting deep dive.
All Around the World was the last single to be a 4 Track Release that was No 1 in the UK in January 1998. After this, there was a 3 track limit for a Single to be Chart Eligible, so there could only be 2 B-Sides at most from Go Let It Out onwards anyway.
@Thenit92
Жыл бұрын
This guy omits and cherry picks things to enforce his agenda. Like complaining about liams voice in 2000 and using a clip from 2006 or like moaning that Noel used simple arrangements in the 2000’s when infact that’s what he did in the 1990’s.. Unfortunately this guy has lost his marbles and believe his own hype. Luckily I unsubscribed from him and the algorithm has done well to not put this nonsense on it since .
@n1thmusic229
Жыл бұрын
Are you sure Current guidelines allow up to 4 tracks and now b-sides hardly even exist
Great analysis, interesting and informative.
5:11 Great observation James, this is it for sure. Also love your new song/video I can hear some Noel isims in your delivery, it's great. While it's certainly your own style It sounds Oasis fan friendly for sure.
Definitely losing Bonehead was a big one. He was a secret genius to it all. Cool to see him playing with Liam solo.
I’ve always thought Force of Nature was such an underrated track. I always liked Heathen chemistry more than the other 2000s albums too
@amerykanskitak
Жыл бұрын
Force of Nature is fantastic!
@ZakynthosDiamandis
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's not a bad tune. Always thought Force of Nature was a song about Noel venting about Liam, almost like a secret diss track. Heathen Chemistry is no way their worst album either.
@polycube868
Жыл бұрын
@@ZakynthosDiamandis what it's about Liam not Meg!? I always thought it was about Meg!
@ZakynthosDiamandis
Жыл бұрын
You may be right. I assumed Liam because of the lyrics "can make you sing like a bird" - Liam's the singer, Noel's the chief, but also Noel said in previous interviews he has a round about way of tricking Liam into doing things he wants him to. "Smoking my stash/burning my cash" could be Noel resenting Liam making money off his songs and being wasteful with money. And finally hearing Noel say "he's had an easy life" regarding Liam in interviews before. Just a hunch though, I've not looked into it. Could well be about Meg.
@polycube868
Жыл бұрын
@@ZakynthosDiamandis never thought of that
Huge Oasis fan here. Very well done, keep up the good work!
Fantastic video as always.
25:00 That concert was in Buenos Aires...I was there.... and I couldn't believe Liam's voice sounded like that.... :(
This talk of B-sides makes me think of The Wildhearts during the 90s as well. So many marvellous tunes on those EPs and CDS releases.
@neilmclaughlin2347
Жыл бұрын
Definitely, 100%. It’s a shame that a lot of people don’t know about them, but throughout the whole of the 90’s their output was solid gold.
congrats on 30k subs. i think i subbed when you had about 5k!
Brilliant as usual James !!
As great as their 90s work was, I always thought that their 00s work was so underrated. The thing with Oasis was that they peaked musically really early after just 2 albums within 2 years. I mean anything they were ever going to make after Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory was never going to reach them heights. Any album after was always going to be compared. These were 2 of the biggest albums in rock music history. I believe that if Oasis the band had first come on the scene in 2000 then them 00s albums would definitely had got more recognition.
I remember first hearing Oasis in the Don’t Believe The Truth era I loved them songs but my obsession with them began with the first three albums later down the line when I got older. There are gems on the later albums but I’m afraid the albums didn’t hit the same way.
@joshdonaldson2888
Жыл бұрын
Gems on all the albums after bonehead left
@dylanmcgivern668
Жыл бұрын
@@joshdonaldson2888 ffs man haha
Amazing insights fully backed up with original footage
Outstanding video mate thank you 🙏
Think you nailed it with the outgoing line to this video. They believed their own hype. Noel got to a point where it was harder and harder to sing about anything relevant anymore. Gone was the struggle with the Tories, being skint and on the dole which is what often makes the journey raw and packed with emotion. It’s difficult to write another MG when you’re sat in a millionaires house watching the royalty cheques come in.
@fshoaps
Жыл бұрын
How did John Lennon, and Paul McCartney manage to do it? It's not as if Noel was the first artist to get famous, and rich writing music as a poor kid.
@andiholman2543
Жыл бұрын
@@fshoaps Both John and Paul had their fair share of flops. Magical Mystery Tour was considered a critical flop upon release with even John himself declaring it ‘the most expensive home movie ever shot’ Yellow Submarine was exactly the same. The Let It Be film was only completed to fulfil a five film deal and that was massively cut down, terribly edited by Michael Lindsey Hogg and released to less than lukewarm reception. It is only years later that we look upon even the worst the Beatles had to offer through rose tinted glasses and call them quaint. Maxwells Silver Hammer? Yer Blues? Revolution 9? Dig a Pony? The list goes on and on, all terrible. More interestingly though, they’re further evidence of a band believing it’s own hype and being surrounded by people telling them that what they’re doing is good enough. Even The Beatles lost interest in being The Beatles by late 1967 and certainly by 1968.
@fshoaps
Жыл бұрын
@@andiholman2543 Magical Mystery Tour wasn't that great of a film, but can you really say that the album is bad? The title track is a great song, and "Fool On The Hill" is a classic. I would agree that John Lennon lost interest in being in The Beatles in late 1967, and certainly by 1968. But Paul McCartney kept the band going, and much of his work on the last few Beatles albums, and his first few solo albums is stellar, and genius work. And the Yellow Submarine film wasn't like Magical Mystery Tour in that it a "home movie", Yellow Submarine was appreciated by The Beatles at the time, and by John in interviews before his own death, that it was animated very well, and John was proud that such a interesting, and compared to Disney, a deep movie was being shown to children to introduce them to The Beatles. With songs like "Nowhere Man" being introduced to a younger audience. "Maxwells Silver Hammer? Yer Blues? Revolution 9? Dig a Pony?" - Notice how most of those songs are Lennon efforts? Say what you will but "Hey Jude", "Let It Be", "Come Together", "Across The Universe", "Sexy Sadie", and "Maybe I'm Amazed" are the works of geniuses. Also you seemed to forget that in the last few years of The Beatles career we got introduced to the songwriting genius of George Harrison, with "Here Comes The Sun", "Something", "Old Brown Shoe" laying the groundwork for George's excellent first solo album. You should listen to The Beatles more. You clearly have no respect for their final years. Scoffing at their supposed decay is pathetic, because they are the best band in the history of music.
@andiholman2543
Жыл бұрын
@@fshoaps criticism isn’t a lack of respect on anyones part. It’s a case of looking at something objectively and formulating an opinion without fanboying. Most of their later stuff was weak. Simple as that. Yeah, there are standout tracks, just as Oasis had as they were imploding. Everyone has their opinions on what they were and there’s no right or wrong answer. Be cool man, it’s only KZread. Who cares?
@fshoaps
Жыл бұрын
@@andiholman2543 We disagree. What I don't like is how you think it's somehow fact that The Beatles got worse in their last years. Most people disagree with that, and think 'The Beatles' and, 'Abbey Road' are amongst their strongest efforts. You are in the minority.
I think they stopped doing 4 song singles because the b-sides they were producing were really good - better then some of their singles in some cases. I remember seeing an interview with Noel sometime ago where he remarked that they would have had 3 classic albums if they hadn't done that, and I tend to agree.
@SlinkiestTortoise23
Жыл бұрын
Three!? Did they even have 1?
@DREWJARV1903
Жыл бұрын
@@SlinkiestTortoise23 why are u here lmao
@SlinkiestTortoise23
Жыл бұрын
@@DREWJARV1903 To help people!
Awesome video man, thanks
As an Oasis fan since year 1997, I identify myself so much with this incredible video for so many reasons. You speak facts. Thank you for this.
It's funny how tides turn. I remember being on a certain Oasis pro-boards for years and you'd get absolutely destroyed for saying you preferred the band with Bonehead/Guigs over the Gem/Andy.
James, I would love to hear more from you about the 2000s, obviously the 90s were better musically but I feel the 2000s is an under explored era for Oasis. Great channel by the way.
Great stuff, James.
Very interesting video, great work. I always wondered why Coyle ended up on the sidelines? Was it because of the damage to his hearing?
As I did discover Oasis when I was really getting into their music I still defend a lot of the various periods in their career and I think a lot of their albums have been strong stuff. I always love their first two albums and really like Be Here Now, but I always have been a fan of Standing On The Shoulder of Giants so much that it's always one of my favourite Oasis albums and yet really like the later diversions on experimentalism from the album. The other ones like Don't Believe The Truth and Dig Out Your Soul are also great records so I always feel open minded which era from Oasis that I listen to because the main point of the band is it's Oasis being themselves despite the changes and this is a brilliant video why all things changed from one of the UK's biggest sensations of bands ever.
Hey all. Re 12:57 - Quite a lot of you have referenced in the comments that the UK Chart Rules changed in the year 2000 to only allow three songs on a single. I've really tried to find some evidence for this, and put in a bit of research, but can't find anything. I think this might be an urban myth, as I have also found multiple examples of 4-song singles that hit the charts and weren't affected by this rule (see Brianstorm by Arctic Monkeys for example, which had four songs and hit #2 in the UK singles chart). The singles chart today has a 4 song limit, the singles chart in the 90s had a 4 song limit, if anyone can link me to an article showing that for a while in the early 00's there was a randomly implemented 3-song limit I would be interested. Many thanks JH
@JeffHongchang
Жыл бұрын
@@DH-TV what happened
@shredder9536
Жыл бұрын
I thought this too
@ImmersedRobot
Жыл бұрын
It's strange how I also thought this was true. I was pretty confident (in fact completely of the belief) that there was a distinct change in 2000 that singles were only allowed to have 2 b-sides. I'm almost certain I read an article in Melody Maker or NME at the time which made the rules clear. I also thought that anything over the "2 b-side" rule had to be classed as an 'EP' and not a single. For this reason, I seem to remember some bands releasing an EP version and a 'single' version (could that be the Arctic Monkeys loophole?). Either way, it's baffling to me that I can't find actual evidence of this right now. But it was such a distinct change and memory that I find it very difficult to believe it's not true. Regardless, this was a very enjoyable video!
@me_fault
Жыл бұрын
i also remember something to do with people bemoaning new chart rules. but perhaps it was all smoke and no fire.
@tim_is_random
Жыл бұрын
The change you’re referring to came into effect in 1998, at some point between June and October (compare the average number of b-sides on singles released before and after that timeframe). The CSC agreed to new rules reducing the number of tracks on a single from four to three, playing time from 25 minutes to 20 and the compact disc single minimum dealer price to £1.79. It was a fairly hot topic at the time.
Fantastic video!
I love your content, I learned a lot about Oasis thanks to you.