8v8 with Wintergaming on Bismuth Valley [Beyond All Reason]
www.beyondallreason.info/
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Пікірлер: 75
@jamesstanfield8302 Жыл бұрын
49:08 that was PERFECT timing on your part lol "but can they capitalise on it?" >Nuke flies by onscreen, blows them all up
@clarkfeeley1959 Жыл бұрын
"twilight sounds like a teenage girl's TV show" "It used to be called the penetrator" LMFAO
@igorpankovic5214 Жыл бұрын
Good job casting - as a tip, "rainbow" doesn't accurately describe the respective teams. Might I suggest "Cool vs Warm" or "Hot vs Cold" - those are the actual colour spectrums
@BeyondAllReason Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Cast again, TA Cast!! Very well done! Thank you for doing that, again! Also very awesome FPS you had throughout the game, a sight to behold and enjoy while watching everything explode.
@Telowin
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing game you folks have produced
@BeyondAllReason
Жыл бұрын
@@Telowin You're welcome!
@poetspot8400 Жыл бұрын
Keep these coming! Two greats together as one
@jenbak2 Жыл бұрын
Tis the year of great RTS!
@Telowin Жыл бұрын
I just stumbled on this game after playing TA like 25 years ago as a kid
@J3hudi5 ай бұрын
really nice camera work. finally someone zooming in all the time. i dont want to watch icons. i dont care if i miss something. i really appreciate!!!
@juggajiggawugga4665 Жыл бұрын
Heaps of replays lately, keep it going! Great stuff
@ArkEsoteric Жыл бұрын
Just started playing, so far skirmishes, but having a blast. Loved the original TA
@doyoustropez8015 Жыл бұрын
Thanks great cast 🙏
@blackwasp1930 Жыл бұрын
I was so excited when I found this game. I missed these old-school, super massive scale RTS games
@chestnutrice9855 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid. I learn alot about the game from your casting :D
@kingman1012 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to watch some pro 1v1 matches. I feel like they can teach a lot to newer players about optimal strategies. Keep up the great content!
@matejzajacik8496 Жыл бұрын
Great, entertaining casting, very pleasant voice!
@dukecunning7046 Жыл бұрын
Wintergaming, do you ever sleep? Asking for a friend. 🙂
@patriklanger Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for another entertaining video! 🎉 I love these huge battles ❤ you're right; people with good strategy and learning skills are advantaged. BTW there is no other game with this extreme zoom range 👍
@jmp2799 Жыл бұрын
Never seen this game before, but i personally enjoy strategy games and enjoyed your commentary 👍
@DyingCr0w Жыл бұрын
Great match, thanks for sharing :)
@ryuujin83 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Please make efforts to phase out all old TA names. Kinda confusing, even for returning TA players when you keep swapping. Thx
@zachdecou Жыл бұрын
“Darn you fffflipin’ Daisius”
@Actaea7 Жыл бұрын
Considering how the colors are determined for teams. They use warm vs cool colors usually in X v X
@Zer0cul0 Жыл бұрын
Im definitely gonna have to look into this one.
@Komyets Жыл бұрын
Im new to the game. Its awesome. I noticed you have troubles naming the teams because of their colors and thought it was funny because, one of the first thing I noticed when I played is that the colors are separate between Cold colors and Warm colors. So I usually call them that. Warm, or Hot team, versus Cold, or Chill team. I thought everyone did that because it seemed kind of obvious xD
@tomoslewis9656 Жыл бұрын
Respect for putting the work in to try and pronounce a foreign name correctly.
@T0tenkampf Жыл бұрын
Do you get a notice in game when your mines are being attacked? I am looking at TeiFions base and it looks like he is using them as warning devices?
@Thalanox Жыл бұрын
I was starting to poke around for SupCom videos because I wanted to play an RTS again. I've never heard of this Winter Guy until doing the background research on BAR to decide whether I want to try it badly enough to go to the trouble of installing it. I don't remember what prompted me to look at RTS games again. I think I heard about BAR either from a commentator video channel that covers multiple RTS games, like this one, or an algorithm link to a friend who I recall loved to watch a lot of StarCraft replay commentary videos, which I've never done. So there could be a creepy algorithm link that might also play in to this.
@Titanscreaming Жыл бұрын
Starlight penetrator... That said it all mate.
@ryaniko94brglowingkitty68 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@typhoon1575 Жыл бұрын
8:00 If you want a simpler way to put this point you're trying to make. You can simply say that "Beyond all reason focuses a lot more on strategy planning, and adapting than excessive micro managing."
@wout4yt
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, using the word "skill" is a bad choice. Since "skill" is usually used for the lowest level of control. Starcraft is a more skill-based game than beyond all reason, which focuses more on the tactics and operational level. While starcraft is more skill and tactics level gameplay.
@typhoon1575
Жыл бұрын
@@wout4yt Sounds like some one is a starcraft eleitst. Jeez As it turns out I didn't use the term "skill" because skill refers to proficiency in a given task And what do you know. Beyond all reason has slightly different SKILL set than star craft. Where you can have average micro skills but expert planing and resource management and win against some one who's top level starcraft micro but not as good as you at resource management. It's almost as if the games require different SKILLS to play.
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 Жыл бұрын
I've played with notorious snubs before. Pretty cool dude.
@Ericsonzaparita Жыл бұрын
This game is as old as me. And ive just started playing it at day 2
@T0tenkampf Жыл бұрын
"Hot" and "Cold" sides seems the obvious team names to me, but that's maybe because I have watched that Christmas special with Heatmiser and Coldmiser too much.
@nicolasbertin8552 Жыл бұрын
52:35 dunno if the Thor had EMP missiles left, but you gotta use those missiles. Too often ^players don't launch them and their Thors die to clumps of units that could have been paralyzed so easily...
@MrkBO8 Жыл бұрын
I saw it on Winters channel. I'm an old TA player and it took me 2 minutes to figure it out.
@markusgiver9735 Жыл бұрын
Great game! It would help alot if you do not zoom in and out so often, instead pan or press the minimap. And dont be afraid to stay in the same place on the map a bit longer. Also, it would be fun to hear alot more about the different units as a viewer when they show up, and what they are good versus and bad versus. Just my 5 cents!
@mighatesmakingusers Жыл бұрын
How valid is the ancient OTA meta in this game? I remember almost everyone used to start on vehicles but now almost everyone seems to start on bots. Rushing like 10 of the little fast pew-pew tanks on Arm was usually a very strong opener, especially if you could run them into your opponents' vehicle or bot manufacturers and clog them with your wrecks.
@TheUberjammer Жыл бұрын
Don't really think pink was 'keeping his team afloat' - seemed to me like the original push through yellow's base was possible because all pink's units were down south protecting a choke point that nobody was attacking... and one of his allies already had covered.
@uzi-mp5mg Жыл бұрын
Check Settings > Interface > unit team platters for better display of unit alliance
@AvarFeralfang Жыл бұрын
I really hope they add dual screen mode in. I need a bigger tactical map.
@typhoon1575 Жыл бұрын
Strategy I'm surprised I don't see often is air transport. So often players get caught out in the open. And over run before their team can help react. Dropping an army via air would be a great response. Not only that but dropping an army of heavy slow units behind enemy lines before they can react. Wonder why people don't try that more.
@justaegiscertifiedbodyguar8083 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Gwapo is the Filipino word for Handsome btw. As you insist for the Welsh name
@fignalforest9985 Жыл бұрын
Is this coming out on steam?
@NactSuht
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@manueldelbono202 Жыл бұрын
Now... I am one of the people brought to this game by Winter and... Is It possible to have some guides on what actually to do? Becouse a Always lack resources and i really don't know when to tech up
@PtaQ_Q
Жыл бұрын
There is a guide about it on the BAR website 😊
@manueldelbono202
Жыл бұрын
@@PtaQ_Q i looked all of them and i'm still a noob xD
@dashpowers22 Жыл бұрын
At 39:10 the farthest advanced tank just disappears?
@seandowney2338 Жыл бұрын
Mate, maroon is darker than red, and beige is a shade of brown. That is salmon or brick.
@colingold6584 Жыл бұрын
snapko’s team color is peach
@HappyWulf Жыл бұрын
"red and blue" it's hot and cold, silly! Blues and greens are 'cool' colors and reds and yellows are 'warm'.
@confreeknor1 Жыл бұрын
im one of those that didnt know it existed
@T0tenkampf Жыл бұрын
Great cast, maybe let winter prove himself as a player first before you start gushing all over him as the star though. That being said, her did well against Teifion who is often the star of a match.
@NactSuht
Жыл бұрын
I believe in him. In a few months he'll be as good as anyone imo.
@sneakyjoe12 Жыл бұрын
44:43 Horrible use of bombers lmao!
@MrTweetyhack Жыл бұрын
"Bar is a skill based game" HAHAHA. Sure
@0_opeace766 Жыл бұрын
I just can't play any other rts since faf
@adaug27 Жыл бұрын
Its not about introducing the players or not its about introducing them quickly and succinctly. Like a professional. Means you have to looks at the names, practice pronunciation, and be able to say all their names within 2 minutes or so. That would make you a better caster.
@j.blackcat7233 Жыл бұрын
I want them to bring an alien race to multiplayer. Like zerg from Starcraft. Imagine swarming with thousands of bio units. It could add a lot to the visual aspect of multiplayer battles.
@PtaQ_Q
Жыл бұрын
It's not out of the question. There were some trials of including raptors as a playable faction, will take a lot of work but definitely possible as an update somewhere down the line. We have just developed skinned animation in the engine and will be trying using it on new raptor unit concepts. We need many interesting new units for them (we have a lot but they are not differentiated enough)
@TheUberjammer Жыл бұрын
Hmm... doesn't like "Starlight" as a change from "Penetrator"... because it's "too teenage girl"... hmm.
@catbert7
Жыл бұрын
Just putting those words in the same sentence is gonna bring the FBI to your door.
@TheUberjammer
Жыл бұрын
@@catbert7 Oh, Canada!
@nicolasbertin8552 Жыл бұрын
Wintergaming so far has great micro of his units, and great shortcuts. He's still lacking on the unit and building knowledge, as well as economy building. Basically he's just falling into the classic BAR traps one by one. Building wind turbines when there's not enough wind, not pushing enough, having advanced fusion too early, too many construction turrets too early, lacking AA, that kind of thing. Also in BAR there are a lot of units that are very niche, and quite useless in most situations. Gauntlets are horrible except in one specific use that never happens, HLTs are quite garbage too... It takes a while to learn... On the opposite side, someone like Tefion has amazing unit knowledge, knows what to use when, but isn't a pro RTS player so his micro skills are quite basic, nothing like the crazy duellers like Raghna, Goopy, Govtouche etc...
@paddykickinitubint1692 Жыл бұрын
Hey i found this game browsing for something to watch it reminds me of Supreme Commander thats the game i play never playing TA but i just downloaded this game and i love that its free and a great community to get into if you havent YOU really should get this game and show some love to the Dev's its great fun as im so sick of buying games from developers and waiting a year after i pay 60 or 70 euro for a game to work . STOP releasing games b4 they are finished you greedy twats and plus dont hire blue haired fake gamers that we all have to suffer hearing about the god damn patriarchy or equal pixelated pay.
@austecon6818 Жыл бұрын
I don't get what you mean when you say: "BAR vs Starcraft 2 doesn't need anywhere near as much APM - therefore it takes more skill". I think you mean to say: "Starcraft 2 has a higher APM requirement (therefore skill requirement) but BAR - being slower paced places more emphasis on STRATEGY/THINKING rather than dexterity and skill". I love both games but to say that BAR requires more "skill" than starcraft 2 is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. BAR is like a point-and-click adventure game by comparison.
@NactSuht
Жыл бұрын
I never said BAR requires more skill than Starcraft. Go back and listen again.
@HT8008S Жыл бұрын
Please stop bringing up the irrelevant unit names of the old games. Love the hit of nostalgia, but we clicked for BAR not a history lesson.
@hallgrimurkhallgrimsson1200 Жыл бұрын
stop introducing teams, we're not illiterate we can see the names :c
@JuNe-uk6iv Жыл бұрын
hold on.. since 1997? what is this? and where do i sign in?
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49:08 that was PERFECT timing on your part lol "but can they capitalise on it?" >Nuke flies by onscreen, blows them all up
"twilight sounds like a teenage girl's TV show" "It used to be called the penetrator" LMFAO
Good job casting - as a tip, "rainbow" doesn't accurately describe the respective teams. Might I suggest "Cool vs Warm" or "Hot vs Cold" - those are the actual colour spectrums
Beautiful Cast again, TA Cast!! Very well done! Thank you for doing that, again! Also very awesome FPS you had throughout the game, a sight to behold and enjoy while watching everything explode.
@Telowin
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing game you folks have produced
@BeyondAllReason
Жыл бұрын
@@Telowin You're welcome!
Keep these coming! Two greats together as one
Tis the year of great RTS!
I just stumbled on this game after playing TA like 25 years ago as a kid
really nice camera work. finally someone zooming in all the time. i dont want to watch icons. i dont care if i miss something. i really appreciate!!!
Heaps of replays lately, keep it going! Great stuff
Just started playing, so far skirmishes, but having a blast. Loved the original TA
Thanks great cast 🙏
I was so excited when I found this game. I missed these old-school, super massive scale RTS games
thanks for the vid. I learn alot about the game from your casting :D
I'd love to watch some pro 1v1 matches. I feel like they can teach a lot to newer players about optimal strategies. Keep up the great content!
Great, entertaining casting, very pleasant voice!
Wintergaming, do you ever sleep? Asking for a friend. 🙂
Thanks again for another entertaining video! 🎉 I love these huge battles ❤ you're right; people with good strategy and learning skills are advantaged. BTW there is no other game with this extreme zoom range 👍
Never seen this game before, but i personally enjoy strategy games and enjoyed your commentary 👍
Great match, thanks for sharing :)
Good stuff. Please make efforts to phase out all old TA names. Kinda confusing, even for returning TA players when you keep swapping. Thx
“Darn you fffflipin’ Daisius”
Considering how the colors are determined for teams. They use warm vs cool colors usually in X v X
Im definitely gonna have to look into this one.
Im new to the game. Its awesome. I noticed you have troubles naming the teams because of their colors and thought it was funny because, one of the first thing I noticed when I played is that the colors are separate between Cold colors and Warm colors. So I usually call them that. Warm, or Hot team, versus Cold, or Chill team. I thought everyone did that because it seemed kind of obvious xD
Respect for putting the work in to try and pronounce a foreign name correctly.
Do you get a notice in game when your mines are being attacked? I am looking at TeiFions base and it looks like he is using them as warning devices?
I was starting to poke around for SupCom videos because I wanted to play an RTS again. I've never heard of this Winter Guy until doing the background research on BAR to decide whether I want to try it badly enough to go to the trouble of installing it. I don't remember what prompted me to look at RTS games again. I think I heard about BAR either from a commentator video channel that covers multiple RTS games, like this one, or an algorithm link to a friend who I recall loved to watch a lot of StarCraft replay commentary videos, which I've never done. So there could be a creepy algorithm link that might also play in to this.
Starlight penetrator... That said it all mate.
Nice
8:00 If you want a simpler way to put this point you're trying to make. You can simply say that "Beyond all reason focuses a lot more on strategy planning, and adapting than excessive micro managing."
@wout4yt
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, using the word "skill" is a bad choice. Since "skill" is usually used for the lowest level of control. Starcraft is a more skill-based game than beyond all reason, which focuses more on the tactics and operational level. While starcraft is more skill and tactics level gameplay.
@typhoon1575
Жыл бұрын
@@wout4yt Sounds like some one is a starcraft eleitst. Jeez As it turns out I didn't use the term "skill" because skill refers to proficiency in a given task And what do you know. Beyond all reason has slightly different SKILL set than star craft. Where you can have average micro skills but expert planing and resource management and win against some one who's top level starcraft micro but not as good as you at resource management. It's almost as if the games require different SKILLS to play.
I've played with notorious snubs before. Pretty cool dude.
This game is as old as me. And ive just started playing it at day 2
"Hot" and "Cold" sides seems the obvious team names to me, but that's maybe because I have watched that Christmas special with Heatmiser and Coldmiser too much.
52:35 dunno if the Thor had EMP missiles left, but you gotta use those missiles. Too often ^players don't launch them and their Thors die to clumps of units that could have been paralyzed so easily...
I saw it on Winters channel. I'm an old TA player and it took me 2 minutes to figure it out.
Great game! It would help alot if you do not zoom in and out so often, instead pan or press the minimap. And dont be afraid to stay in the same place on the map a bit longer. Also, it would be fun to hear alot more about the different units as a viewer when they show up, and what they are good versus and bad versus. Just my 5 cents!
How valid is the ancient OTA meta in this game? I remember almost everyone used to start on vehicles but now almost everyone seems to start on bots. Rushing like 10 of the little fast pew-pew tanks on Arm was usually a very strong opener, especially if you could run them into your opponents' vehicle or bot manufacturers and clog them with your wrecks.
Don't really think pink was 'keeping his team afloat' - seemed to me like the original push through yellow's base was possible because all pink's units were down south protecting a choke point that nobody was attacking... and one of his allies already had covered.
Check Settings > Interface > unit team platters for better display of unit alliance
I really hope they add dual screen mode in. I need a bigger tactical map.
Strategy I'm surprised I don't see often is air transport. So often players get caught out in the open. And over run before their team can help react. Dropping an army via air would be a great response. Not only that but dropping an army of heavy slow units behind enemy lines before they can react. Wonder why people don't try that more.
Fun fact: Gwapo is the Filipino word for Handsome btw. As you insist for the Welsh name
Is this coming out on steam?
@NactSuht
Жыл бұрын
Yes
Now... I am one of the people brought to this game by Winter and... Is It possible to have some guides on what actually to do? Becouse a Always lack resources and i really don't know when to tech up
@PtaQ_Q
Жыл бұрын
There is a guide about it on the BAR website 😊
@manueldelbono202
Жыл бұрын
@@PtaQ_Q i looked all of them and i'm still a noob xD
At 39:10 the farthest advanced tank just disappears?
Mate, maroon is darker than red, and beige is a shade of brown. That is salmon or brick.
snapko’s team color is peach
"red and blue" it's hot and cold, silly! Blues and greens are 'cool' colors and reds and yellows are 'warm'.
im one of those that didnt know it existed
Great cast, maybe let winter prove himself as a player first before you start gushing all over him as the star though. That being said, her did well against Teifion who is often the star of a match.
@NactSuht
Жыл бұрын
I believe in him. In a few months he'll be as good as anyone imo.
44:43 Horrible use of bombers lmao!
"Bar is a skill based game" HAHAHA. Sure
I just can't play any other rts since faf
Its not about introducing the players or not its about introducing them quickly and succinctly. Like a professional. Means you have to looks at the names, practice pronunciation, and be able to say all their names within 2 minutes or so. That would make you a better caster.
I want them to bring an alien race to multiplayer. Like zerg from Starcraft. Imagine swarming with thousands of bio units. It could add a lot to the visual aspect of multiplayer battles.
@PtaQ_Q
Жыл бұрын
It's not out of the question. There were some trials of including raptors as a playable faction, will take a lot of work but definitely possible as an update somewhere down the line. We have just developed skinned animation in the engine and will be trying using it on new raptor unit concepts. We need many interesting new units for them (we have a lot but they are not differentiated enough)
Hmm... doesn't like "Starlight" as a change from "Penetrator"... because it's "too teenage girl"... hmm.
@catbert7
Жыл бұрын
Just putting those words in the same sentence is gonna bring the FBI to your door.
@TheUberjammer
Жыл бұрын
@@catbert7 Oh, Canada!
Wintergaming so far has great micro of his units, and great shortcuts. He's still lacking on the unit and building knowledge, as well as economy building. Basically he's just falling into the classic BAR traps one by one. Building wind turbines when there's not enough wind, not pushing enough, having advanced fusion too early, too many construction turrets too early, lacking AA, that kind of thing. Also in BAR there are a lot of units that are very niche, and quite useless in most situations. Gauntlets are horrible except in one specific use that never happens, HLTs are quite garbage too... It takes a while to learn... On the opposite side, someone like Tefion has amazing unit knowledge, knows what to use when, but isn't a pro RTS player so his micro skills are quite basic, nothing like the crazy duellers like Raghna, Goopy, Govtouche etc...
Hey i found this game browsing for something to watch it reminds me of Supreme Commander thats the game i play never playing TA but i just downloaded this game and i love that its free and a great community to get into if you havent YOU really should get this game and show some love to the Dev's its great fun as im so sick of buying games from developers and waiting a year after i pay 60 or 70 euro for a game to work . STOP releasing games b4 they are finished you greedy twats and plus dont hire blue haired fake gamers that we all have to suffer hearing about the god damn patriarchy or equal pixelated pay.
I don't get what you mean when you say: "BAR vs Starcraft 2 doesn't need anywhere near as much APM - therefore it takes more skill". I think you mean to say: "Starcraft 2 has a higher APM requirement (therefore skill requirement) but BAR - being slower paced places more emphasis on STRATEGY/THINKING rather than dexterity and skill". I love both games but to say that BAR requires more "skill" than starcraft 2 is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. BAR is like a point-and-click adventure game by comparison.
@NactSuht
Жыл бұрын
I never said BAR requires more skill than Starcraft. Go back and listen again.
Please stop bringing up the irrelevant unit names of the old games. Love the hit of nostalgia, but we clicked for BAR not a history lesson.
stop introducing teams, we're not illiterate we can see the names :c
hold on.. since 1997? what is this? and where do i sign in?