Dice really went all out on their BF2. Shame they dropped support for it when there was so much more they could add, especially when it comes to weapons and heroes.

@FemboyTyco

3 ай бұрын

Right?? In one of the interviews one of hte developers commented on how they were experimenting with "Dual" lightsaber heroes. We almost had Ahsoka and Ventress damnit!!

@johnnyknadler1157

3 ай бұрын

@@FemboyTycoEA with their micro transactions definitely were a reason why we didn’t get them

@Exton_Z1

3 ай бұрын

@@johnnyknadler1157they wanted the entire dice staff that work on battlefront 2 to work on BF 2042, that’s why it was abandoned

@TheArkhamKnight1893

3 ай бұрын

EA their parent company made them work on Battlefield 2042 so it wasn’t up to them however if it was we would probably get x5 if not x10 the amount of content

@northernbloke6787

3 ай бұрын

That's an EA decision not dice

Ah, yes. The hidden lightsaber form: Base'bal-baat

@nofacedgoldfish6216

3 ай бұрын

I love this comment! XD

@rootin222

3 ай бұрын

🇮🇹🤌🏾🇮🇹issa style that-ah Jedi don’t-ah teach u

@notquiteshiny4172

3 ай бұрын

Thing is, it kinda makes sense canonically. The Jedi were almost entirely wiped out so all their knowledge on duelling would disappear, the only people left to train Luke were Kenobi, who was old and didn't have much time, and Yoda, also old and very small. By the time Luke would come across proper duelling techniques, he'd already be too proficient to change all that much. Him just swinging his saber makes perfect sense.

@Alexgodofwar5662

3 ай бұрын

​@@notquiteshiny4172And people bitch on the sequels

@callous2k486

3 ай бұрын

@@notquiteshiny4172He was able to beat Darth Vader by just swinging his lightsaber wildly If it ain’t broke don’t fix it 🤷🏿‍♂️😂

Ok I originally thought “that’s so cool” but as soon as I saw the anakin and dooku one, idk but I’m a little skeptical that some of if not most of these “lore parallels” might just be the devs reusing animations and base animations for each character

@ClonedGamer001

3 ай бұрын

It's because there's certain forms of lightsaber combat just like with real-world fighting styles. So two people using the same form are going to swing their sabers in roughly the same way.

@BiggieJ4224

3 ай бұрын

@@ClonedGamer001 think you missed the point of my comment, your explanation still falls under “lore parallels” as I mentioned earlier, lightsaber stances and forms are apart of lore that I was pointing out that they could have put off the potential workload for themselves by reusing base animation foundations, idk if I know what that is but it’s basically two different aniamtikns that look visually similar but different, but that’s because it only varies 2/4 to 3/4 of the way in the animation cycle, meaning less work is needed to be done and mocap and manual animation tweaking is far easier

@ClonedGamer001

3 ай бұрын

@@BiggieJ4224 That's actually not how animation works. It's actually harder to blend an existing animation into a new one than it is to create a totally new one. With some of them like Anakin/Vader they just totally reused the animations, but for the ones where the swing pattern is vaguely similar but not exactly the same, they at most would have the same "skeleton" of animation (the super rigid A-to-B movement before any sort of realistic momentum or weight is added), but that's it.

@BiggieJ4224

3 ай бұрын

@@ClonedGamer001 hmm, my knowledge is flawed no excuses there, guess my skepticism is an innate instinct, great talking with you man thanks for the insight

@ericsweeney7406

3 ай бұрын

@@ClonedGamer001 that’s definitely not true. I would buy that explanation for something like facial animations but applying the same animations to characters using the same skeletal frame is a shortcut, not a hindrance

Basically every saber wielder in the game sharing animations between each other: General Grievous: “Nah, imma do my own thing.”

@1812WarHawk

3 ай бұрын

Maul and Yodas are different

@slayerofdarknssdmt9697

3 ай бұрын

​@@1812WarHawk yodas is "to hit the targe, jump I must" Mauls is basically his own thing since he was trained by sidious but he doesn't have a lightsaber and even if he did he'd only have either 1 or 2 not a double blade obviously As for grievous idk why they made him only swing his sabers horizontally especially when most of his attacks seen in either the shows or movies are primarily vertical

@JamesMaund538

3 ай бұрын

@@slayerofdarknssdmt9697 Sidious did have a lightsaber, we see it in episode 3 when he kills maul and the others when he was about to be arrested

@slayerofdarknssdmt9697

3 ай бұрын

@@JamesMaund538 I'm talking about ingame I'm not blind I know palps has 2 lightsabers he shit all over savage and maul then wiped out almost the entire jedi council with 1

❌ Re-using animations ✅ Hidden details

I love that. Anakin has more flare where as Vader is straight to the point.

@Solomon_C

3 ай бұрын

Anakin actually shares quite a few moves with Dooku as well as Vader.

@aidentan-diaz4828

2 ай бұрын

it could also be the suit limiting vader's movement since it was designed to make him weaker

“Luke trained Rey” I think “trained” is used loosely here lol

@DamianHowardTV

3 ай бұрын

*VERY* loosely.

@CAPEDCRUSADER3900

3 ай бұрын

Technically Leia trained Rey for about a year After The Last Jedi, but that's something we never see other than the little training course Rey Runs in TROS.

@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm

3 ай бұрын

Didnt Rey already lift mountains before Leia "trained" her?

@skrublordnord69

3 ай бұрын

@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm yeah and Yoda struggled with rocks in attack of the clones. Rey didn’t show any strain at all, and she was still a newbie. Even Anakin, the literal chosen one, had his limitations and needed his entire adolescents to train his abilities to their peak potential. And he STILL didn’t reach that potential. Rey was just better at literally everything with next to no training. Made no sense whatsoever

@doodtheman2508

3 ай бұрын

@@skrublordnord69 I thought that the insinuation was that having thousands more force users in the galaxy, amongst other factors, was rendering Clone Wars-era Jedi much weaker than they should have been. And that Rey's powers are just how strong Jedi are _supposed_ to be.

2:23 now I can never un-see that 💀

I love looking back and focusing on all the smaller animation details in the new bf2

@Kamino_k

2 ай бұрын

are you interested in receiving an upgrade to Battlefront 2 on Plауstation? it adds any FOV you want, ultra graphics, dolby audio and more

03:46 fun fact: The imperial shadow trooper appeared in The Force Unleashed game released in september of 2008, and before that in the Lego set 7667 'Imperial Dropship' earlier that same year.

@austinschroeter5978

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s where I remember them from too, I loved their armor!

@Alexgodofwar5662

3 ай бұрын

The video said introduced in canon Force unleashed isn't canon Same with toy legos

@moderndemon84

3 ай бұрын

@@Alexgodofwar5662Lego toys are somewhat Canon.

"Luke trained Rey" No, he gave her two lessons on why she shouldn't be a Jedi (even though he promised three lessons), she swung the lightsaber around by herself, and then he kicked her off the island.

I still play battlefront 2 to this day. I play at least a few times a week. I still hate that they ended it so early 😭😭

@Pipe_02

Ай бұрын

me 2

@Gouken.07

9 күн бұрын

Play it on PC with the mods. The mod community is doing what EA should be doing by adding in much more content to the game like more characters, skins, maps, etc. There are also dedicated servers that allow people to play fair without any hackers.

ALternate theory: They did not put any work into the animations but copied the already finished ones and just slightly altered them

@CoralCopperHead

3 ай бұрын

This is only a "theory" because we don't have any hard evidence or testimony from the animators, just the circumstantial evidence of being able to very clearly see that this is exactly what they did. Probably because EA was screaming at them to rush the game out the door so they could get their Greed Kindling.

@hopelesslyoptimistic8231

2 ай бұрын

Considering the consistency I believe it was intentional

@aldrichcruz9321

2 ай бұрын

not a theory according to what I know yes lets look back at what happened the way Vader and Anakin swing their light saber and how their ability is totally comprehended and same as they look Vader swing is somewhat like had a prosthetic cybernetic limb which is hard for Vader/Anakin to move even he couldn't swing his lightsaber back in his days and not agile because the weight that Vader had his armor is due to the high pressure intense heat he was on System of Mustafar and he did use his Force to be agile and maneuver well in the battlefield unlike that Pre Anakin could do that and also remember Form 5 Ataru the style I see is Form 5 anakin use Form 6 while Obi Wanis form 3

Just finished watching all of your Star wars videos gotta say nicely done keep up the work and good luck

I can never unsee that a DC-15 uses an upside down E-11 😅 Also, the scope issue can be explained away by saying that it is actually a camera optic. So the optic is actually linked to a camera rather than it being a telescope. I'm blanking on real life examples of this, but this is similar to the Magnum from Halo and the weapons of Mass Effect prior the third entry. Staggering when you consider most of these Star Wars weapons were designed in the 70's. Either this technology existed to a limited degree, or this is one big happy accident.

@cesar6004

3 ай бұрын

I thought it was where the grappling hook was stored

@Hirovard

3 ай бұрын

holy shit how have i never noticed this.

@austinschroeter5978

3 ай бұрын

I can’t unsee it now either lol

Star Wars Battlefront game series needs to be continued bro 🔥💯🔥❤️🔥💯🔥

Love the cotent! More please!! Been playing since the originals.

@Hero_of_Sinnoh

3 ай бұрын

On the way!

@vollers.gaming

3 ай бұрын

I got loads of battle front and more on my channel 🙂

@Marksuckerburgg

3 ай бұрын

@@vollers.gaming ill check it out brother!

I noticed the lightsaber swing animations right away and made the connection of master to padawan instantly. Also father to son similarities in the moves

Hey you got some good catches there. Good video. 👌 May the Force be with you.🙏

I'm not even a part of the Battlefront community but your videos are great dude. Ever considered making content on other Star Wars games, or just other games in general? I know there's a few Star Wars games that are very "Battlefront-ish", could be cool to see how they compare and how things differ from the more popular Battlefront brand/games.

My tid bit in BF2 is that the Raider ship HQ used by Inferno Squadron gets its design and origin from a table top game called X-Wing Miniature Game. It was designed by Lucasfilm for FFG to use in their game to have something that could go toe to toe with a CR-90. Dice saw it and loved enough to make it the main HQ of Inferno Squadron, making it officially canon

Keep em coming

The glock and deagle combo is cursed and I love it, you better know Rex is dual welding those

@CoralCopperHead

3 ай бұрын

If you say so. If you're gonna carry two pistols, I say you should carry two pistols that do the job differently. Glock for squishies, Eagle for people who armour up.

“Since he now has the high ground” lol

The arc troopers are wearing the prototype phase 2 clone armour, which still has the comms fin on the top. At one point they were field testing it before it was finalized and went to the rest of the clone army

the reason most the lights saber animations were similar might be because of time and effort reason as making completely unique animations for each character would take long

@Sedobreev

3 ай бұрын

Long, yeah, like 1-2 hours

@exfedity

3 ай бұрын

@@Sedobreev u a game developer?

@ashtray4344

2 ай бұрын

@@exfedityi am an animator. they dont look reused, they are most certainly handcrafted bcause they use clearly distinct poses and they also switch hands in some cases so... yeah, they are not reused animations.

Yellow Blaster Bolts are non lethal? Haha Mandalorians start blasting!

@brianmoyachiuz905

3 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about Yellow blaster bolts from Mandalorian guns

@thepeskyone

3 ай бұрын

They wish not to harm their clone brothers

@Hero_of_Sinnoh

3 ай бұрын

They're more yellowish, Orange is training blasters

Not all gun sights need a lense on both ends. Early collimator sights (actually used on SW blaster props) worked on the "occluded eye" principle. As long as you keep both eyes open while aiming, it works fine.

While the similarities between vader and anakin are apparent and likely deliberate Most of the other shared moves were simply recycled with no deeper meaning on other characters, most of these similarities are a stretch at best

I have loved Star Wars all my life and been a nerd forever...I never realized DC-15 barrels were upside down E-11s

Id imagine the reason the resistance uses blue for their blaster bolts is because first order storm trooper armor is likely tuffer to get through so they need the extra power blue bolts provide.

Shadow troopers also existed in Star Wars Jedi Knight 2, but they wielded lightsabers and they would brutalize you

Didn't know that about blaster color!

Shadow troopers existed prior to battlefront 1 as lego had q set with one back in the earlier 2000s

0:38 something else I just realized is that they both kick at some point in their attacks

The default sniper for the resistance is a combo of a Luger P08 and other rifle bits lol.

Luke didn’t “train” Rey. He just told her to swing her blade like a stupid little child and she cut a rock and almost fell off a cliff.

You're an underappreciated goat

Great video as always. Not gonna lie, I love Dennis - we owe so much to him for how amazing BF2015 and BF2017 are - but his comments on the Shadow Trooper being too similar to/redundant with the Death Trooper are so uncharacteristically wrong for him, and really couldn't be further from the truth. Their only similarity is that they both wear black armor. Other than that, everything about the two trooper types is completely different. Shadow Troopers are stealthy reconnaissance and infiltration units, while the Death Trooper is a bodyguard and enforcer unit. On top of that, the Shadow Trooper is basically a black Stormtrooper, with no additional gear, while the Death Troopers commonly have additional ammo pouches, grenade bandoliers, pauldrons, etc. On top of all this, the two units literally coexist perfectly in Battlefront 2015, and no one has ever complained about it. I have to think that he had to think of something to say to explain their absence from BF2, probably because the team just didn't have time to add them.

0:39 mistake made here, no one trained Rey, and Luke actually had skill in Form V, Rey actually swings like a baseball bat though

Han Solos gun looks a lot like the C96 Mauser. Just with a scope and a different barrel.

Mark Hamill trained with Bob Anderson. He did NOT swing like a baseball bat and is not a mock fighter like Daisy Ridley who CLEARLY did not have upper strenght. (she knew how to use that staff though!) They just did mo cap for X characters and played with the library to do extra characters.

… Luke didn’t train Rey. “Actually trained”, all he did was poke her with a plant and told her to go away.

I think it would be awesome if they ever went back to add new content to EA BF2 if they changed some Hero ships to have customizations, at the very least change Yoda's Jedi Starfighter to just by default be "Jedi Starfighter" and allow you to change skins based on your favorite Jedi's fighter, even let you change the dialogue of who's talking when you fly it and make it available to have at least a couple people use it.

In bf2015 you’d ads in first person down the length of the gun in a (point shooting stance for pistols) if the weapon didn’t have an optic. Wish they’d brought it back in bf2

i was with you until you said kylo ren is like dark side Anakin, he isnt lmao. fun fact in the OT George lucus actually had Hayden christinsian slow down is swing patterns when doing the choreography because he was worried that the sword fights would not look real. kylo Ren moves like a person is carrying a wooden trunk for a lightsaber.

"Luke trained Rey" haha good one

god i miss this game

Luke didn't trained Rey, she trained herself.

Viewers: man youtube recs is boring lately- Star Wars Content: *Hello There!!!*

1:20 this is why I don't like when they use blue bolts for "good guys" just to distinguish them from "bad guys" (like the new republic)

I stil hope there will be a new game for next gen with a long life support with new characters and updates. Fun season passes. It could live for ages

Did you know, get ready, they are the same person? I know. Mind blowing.

@Auvas_Damask

3 ай бұрын

He knows, but the attention to detail is what surprises him

So do ion shots kill droids faster than an unmodded shot would in the game? Essentially does blue kill battledroids quicker than red?

Blue is from Tibana gas!

Decent game 🔥

1:20 this blaster is base on a ww2 mg the mg15

NR used blue because the writers were thinking (blue=good republic red=bad empire

The glazing is unreal

Remember when we all wanted EA to loose the Star Wars games license. And now we got the battlefront classic collection.

Now if only the brought the game back from the death, the skeleton crew can't keep up.

0:45 That’s not a bad way of putting it.

The Resistance’s blue blaster bolts are just blue regular bolts not ion shots.

@dominiccrimmings6925

3 ай бұрын

You they're not actually real, right?

@ReySkywalker2

3 ай бұрын

@@dominiccrimmings6925 Yes. I’m talking about in-universe. Obviously.

I dont get why kylo has the same ones as anakin considering how he was never trained by him and he should be less experienced then luke and alot less experienced then republic era lightsaber combat

Yeah totally didn't know that. Dev's totally didn't tell us this when he released.

definitely didnt miss any of these details

The new republic probably uses them because Disney went “oooOOOOOOOhhh rEd Is BaD and BlUe iS gOoD”

@attyoma8226

3 ай бұрын

Well, Lucas thinks the same way when he was making the OT

@TheSuperSpud

3 ай бұрын

@@attyoma8226 that’s for lightsabers tho

That last part with the Shadow trooper is actually wrong the Shadow trooper first appeared in Star wars the Force unleashed I don't remember if it was the first one or the second one but I do know that's where it first appeared because it's a skin and an enemy I think

Always thought of lightsabers having rounded tips, and the sharp being weird. Like those in the animated series look WAY too sharp IMO

@JJ-zo7jv

3 ай бұрын

Rounded tips is my canon, I think they look better overall

@booki7057

3 ай бұрын

I like the pointed tips best, more sword like lol

@fissilewhistle

3 ай бұрын

They’re light*sabers*, not lightclubs.

the similar animations were in part also due to the rushed nature of Battlefront 2. Launch Obi-Wan had almost identical animation with Luke

Is it weird that I put the blue on the arc trooper and just use him as a cap Rex hero

I miss bf1 stormtrooper skins

orange non lethal? bt i saw the mandalorians using it in real fights i clone wars or somewhere

@DeltaArc1136

3 ай бұрын

Mandalorians used yellow blaster bolts.

"detail they have put into animations"

i knew about anakin and vader cuz there the same person

0:39 How did Luke train Rey? His only lesson to her was "reach out". He didn't show her anything other than that.

@cookiebunny1526

3 ай бұрын

You just don't get it.

I have a theory. The similarity in Vader and Anakin might not be a coincidence, I think they might be the same person and this is a hint that they are!

Holdon, how did you get anakin to do his signature move in BF2? in 0:28

@Auvas_Damask

3 ай бұрын

Run. All heroes have additional attacks when running

@stiven355

3 ай бұрын

​@@Auvas_Damaskit's a type of lunge attack that happens when you swing a few times and then in middle of ur swinging you lunge onto an enemy idk exactly how many swings before you need to lunge

@Auvas_Damask

3 ай бұрын

​@@stiven355As I said, this also happens if you sprint while attacking. You can start the game and try it out yourself if you want, I know exactly it's true

Giving two characters the same move set isnt a detail. It’s a lack there of. May I remind you that in the actual battlefront II Vader had his own unique abilities indicative of a fall to the dark side.

Luke never trained Rey…. Rey had zero training.

And yellow shots in blasters? Which is their quality?

Problem is, the changes to Vader's animations later on resulted in HORRENDOROUS clipping with his cape. You can't even walk without his elbows phasing through. They basically ruined Vader and never fixed him.

It's amazing how much attention to Star Wars detail they put into this, replicating the Star Wars universe so well! If only they could replicate a Battlefront game as well when they made a Battlefront game... {Ya I'm still salty about EA/DICE using Pandemic's SWB and SWB2 names to hype up EASWB and EASWB2 when they play completely differently.}

@bren8511

3 ай бұрын

Cry is free, you have insane nostalgia for pandemic. The ea versions are goated in comparison sorry they made the game good lil bro but at least you can still play your shlop with the other 4 pandemic meatriders

“Kylo ren is dark side anakin if he never lost any limbs” and was much weaker in the force and worse with a lightsaber and had even worse daddy issues somehow despite ACTUALLY having a dad unlike Anakin

Never got my fucking jango fett

The shadow trooper not being included for being too similar to death troopers, I wonder if the devs ever considered making the shadow into a Death trooper skin

@Not_Alan_Wake

3 ай бұрын

I mean, they both are in the first game tho

@JohnWilliams-wl9px

3 ай бұрын

@@Not_Alan_Wake deathtroopers were added in the Rogue One update and not as their own unit. Only as bodyguard if someone was playing as Krennic. And the reason why Shadow weren’t in 2 because the devs thought they were too similar to DTs

@Not_Alan_Wake

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnWilliams-wl9px How similar they really are ? Besides the black color everything is different from one to another

Im such a nerd i noticed basically all of this invested 2k hours into that game. So fucking sad they never continued it. Hope we get the same team to make bf3

vader is not meant to be the same as anakin, he's meant to be slower and more methodical

Anakin and Vader Have Similar animations? It’s almost as if they are the same person

I still play regularly

i have another name to this details, its called recicling so it cost less to do. hahaha

Guys what do you mean? Star Wars battlefront 2 has just begun and the very warz rage on!!!!

vader has slower and shorter swing than anakin, as logic is.

i see it as them just reusing animations

Recycling animations = Attention to detail lol

2:33 why need lens when you miss all shots

wait why do i get the feeling Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader are the same person. Am I the only one who's thought of this?

I was the 8,000th like😊

@Hero_of_Sinnoh

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

Still the best Star Wars game ever made!

@slendercorn46

3 ай бұрын

I wish it would've been similar to Pandemic's version

@MatthewShep

3 ай бұрын

Laughs in kotor 2*

@Auvas_Damask

3 ай бұрын

​@@MatthewShepLaughs in Survivor

@sirpepeofhousekek6741

3 ай бұрын

Not even close.

@NenMagem9106

2 ай бұрын

​@@Auvas_Damask laughs in Survivor too

when did luke train rey?