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That DigitalRev TV soundtrack used as an intro really threw me off. I thought some other video started running by itself in another tab!

now had my 7DII for over three years, no regrets at all, I get sharp images, its a great all rounder and good companion to my 5DIII.

I got a 7D MK2 recently. I have no idea what any of you are complaining about. I have no complaints with function or image quality. Maybe I would if I was making wall size prints, but I''m not. The frame rate and quality high ISO images made me a believer in short order. For the record, I have progressed from a 20D-40D-7D and 70D. Shoot with one and I'll bet 99% of you won't really care what DxOMark found.

(I just found your channel a few weeks ago and am going back looking at older videos.) I shoot high school sports, primarily gymnastics. For the last 3 years I've been shooting with a 7d MKII. Prior to that I was using the original 7D, which I still carry for backup. I have never even once had a parent come up to me and say "Your camera sucks, and DXO Mark says so!" or "We don't like the dynamic range of your photos!" I have had numerous parents come up to me in gymnastics and tell me "We never had decent action photos of our daughter until she got to high school and you started photographing her!" I rent and try new cameras that come out if I think they might do better for my needs and photography. I have yet to find a camera, any brand, that will top a 7D MKII for sports. I'll give up my 7D MKII when they pry it from my cold dead fingers...at least until Canon comes out with the 7D MKIII :)

@MHarvey-tp5km

8 ай бұрын

That was a few years ago.. what are you using now? Have you switched brands? Gone to the R7?

People should worry less about technology and just do their best to improve as photographers/visual artists. At this level - its not the cameras limitations that will hold you back....it'll be your creative flair, technique and ability to edit. My advice is to buy whatever you can afford and get on with it.

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

DIGITALSCREAMS I agree

@nicolas073

7 жыл бұрын

+1

@forsterl.stewart414

6 жыл бұрын

Totaly agree...Cameras and lenses of today are amazing. Just get out and enjoy. For the Love of Photography.

@ChillingwithMalc

2 ай бұрын

I had a canon rebel xti. Used it for many years. It's a nice camera. Then I wanted something better. So I got a canon 7d. Great camera. Then I wanted a full frame camera. Got a canon 5d mkii. Nice camera. But after getting it. I realized my 7d was still an awesome camera. Today I picked up my old rebel xti and took a few shots. And realized. After learning more and more about photography. My first digital camera really took some nice photos still. So you really need to get what you can afford and use it well. Learn it well. Learn all the functions of the camera. And take many photos. You dont need the newest stuff. Use what you have!

As always, great video Tony! I'm tired of watching "experts" give gear advice based on specs when they haven't even held the camera! It's refreshing to have a successful pro give his unbiased opinion like you!

Great video. Thank you for taking the time to explain the details associated to the Dxo testing. It was very interesting in hearing the weighting associated with each of the metrics which might cause a mis understanding regarding overall sensor performance. I'll have to find / determine the algorithm that Dxo uses to calculate the overall sensor #

I saw the 7D mkll at Photoplus. When people ask about if one cam us better than the other, how you use it really determines your decision. My first book was shot with an early Digital Rebel. My second was with a 60D. My 3rd will be with the 7D mk II. My reason was to increase efficiency. Most if my books have 400 pics and as you know to pick 400 may require you to shoot 3000 just to get the shot that the reader relates too. The video options are pretty good as well.

Hey Tony, thanks for a very helpful video. As with any of your material I have seen I think this is nice and easy for the layman, and informative. So far I am really happy with my 7D2. As you point out many cameras are better for some use cases.

Thank you for your reviews on the 7d Mark II. I appreciate your opinions because they appear objective and is backed up with numbers. What I appreciated most was the speed at which you completed this video to address the mistakes in the previous day's review.

honestly ISO is all I care about .. 90 percent of the time when I edit event photos the noise is the one problem I spend most of the time dealing with. I own the 7D Mark II and there is nothing like it at all. The frame rate speeds .. The ridiculously powerful focus system. The camera is a beast. I would choose it over the 6D any day and it is priced accordingly anyhow.

@xpy1

4 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend the 7d mk ii Or the 5d mk ii for studio fashion editorial

Hi Tony, I have a Pentax K5-2, ISO performance on DXO... Its a similar size sensor.. I'm not into the numbers, its all about the results. I'm happy with mine and I'm sure most cameras of this level produce fantastic results. I think that the 7d mk2 is all about refinement of a tool, not a leap in imaging ( were already there ). Good videos pal, keep them up.

Hi Tony, great stuff ! Very interesting, even for someone who has no intention to buy a 7DII in the near future. What i would like to comment on though, is that your audio deserves to be upgraded. The presentation is outstanding, the content is brilliant but the audio is definitely, and consistently, not at the same level. Thx !

Props to you for coming back and correcting your findings and clarifying what others are seeing.

This is the reason we watch Tony & Chelsea. You can get the nitty gritty information that may not be super easy to find or understand if you do find it.

hi Tony, you really nailed this subject, I mean every question or thought input I had in my mind you addressed and more, really liked this session and appreciate your in depth efforts, honest and unbiased feedback. I used to watch some of your very interesting videos but this one made me subscribe :) cheers.

Very good and technical review video. Thank you!

this is one of the best video ever seen. Very analytical!!! Perfect Tony!!!

Once again great video... If you guys can it would be great if you review panasonics fz 1000 and let us know if its a good camera for wild life...

Hey Tony I was considering getting the 6d or 7d mark 2 because of the Iso quality. I shoot portraits a lot in low light sometimes without flash. Yesterday you said 7d mark 2 is better. Do you still stand behind that? Would you say 7d mark2 or 6d??

As 2 years and 7 months have now passed since your excellent video on the 7D Mark II has anything changed or improved much? I have an 80D and use it for all sorts of subject matter including sports with my two sons. Hence my interest in the 7D Mark II.

I am getting into more serious photography and upgrading my body from canon t4i, the confusion for me is that I have been shooting youth hockey for teams with my 70-2002.8 and now I am moving into portrait and family photography along with the hockey. I am not sure if I should buy Canon 5Dmark lll or get the 7DM2 along with the D6 (both these bodies are about the same as just the 5DM3 on its own). I would love your imput. This will be a side business for me currently not full time. I need a setup that will do both pretty well:)

Thanks for looping back to the tests Tony! Makes a lot more sense now. I do agree with you that for Wildlife this would make a great match to that 400 5.6, but I think the A77 II is one to keep an eye on and with some of the older Minolta glass may just keep up with the Canon. One plus with Sony is you have auto IS on all those old lenses!

Correct me if I am wrong. But isn't dynamic range much more than just the ability of bringing up shadows or removing blown highlights? It's the total spectrum of light at the same time the sensor can resolve without blowing up.

I'd like to see a video or comparison like this between the new 80d, which supposedly has improved dynamic range, and the 7dmkii

great vid, Tony. Just purchased the 7d mk ii in Dublin, Ire today. I had the 7d and loved it. Major thanks...

Hi Tony! I want an all around camera, that will handle weddings and events well. I am looking at the 7dmk2 and the 6d. Thoughts?

You guys are getting so close to the million mark 😁. Love your videos, thanks for all the help.

Hi, can you do a lens review on Tamron 16-300mm vs Nikkor 18-300mm which one is better in terms of low light, image quality and the video stability. Thank you

Hi Tony, in your experience and professional opinion, which APSC sensor camera has the best low light photography performance, brand regardless, thank you.

Good video Tony. Just for kicks I just compared the sensor with my D5200 and I was surprised. It beats it and my camera is a 2012 model. I mean, on every level.

Really enjoyed the comparisons. In reference to the inquiry about low lit gyms, I shoot a lot of low light basketball in rural America. I'm still tweaking the settings on my 7dmkii, but I absolutely love this camera so far! In reference to the lightening, I haven't heard anyone anywhere comment on the "flicker" function. Had my doubts, but it really works. Maybe one or two amber shots in 7-800 shots. Thanks, always enjoy your info.

Tony, well said on "Image isn't everything, its just the easiest thing to test". As such, to keep up with what you have invested, maximize its use and strip off the gear acquisition syndrome. However, to know the technicalities, which I appreciate how you and Chelsea deliver, provides your audience a learning experience. Thank you.

I have the Mark ll for just take cool pictures of my Senior year. it is a Good Start?

nikon, sony etc always wins in tecnical tests, in reality profesionals still using canon with stuning results.. as always, even with older canons.

@poudelbhim

8 жыл бұрын

you got the point. ✌

@nicolas073

7 жыл бұрын

it's more about all the gears, lenses you got. Changing a whole pack of L senses to nikkor or other can be costly and waste of time

@Diostillrocks

6 жыл бұрын

It's more of the person behind the camera than the equipment. A great singer can sound good with an old microphone and speakers.

@EdmontonRails

6 жыл бұрын

Nikon is currently beating canon in low light performance, dynamic range, focusing systems, battery performance and much more. Sony has also showed up to kick their ass. Some pros still use canon simply because they are invested in the lenses.

@markhudson2266

5 жыл бұрын

@@EdmontonRails Who produces the sensor for Nikon? Sony. Canon glass will ALWAYS kick any Nikkor lenses ass. Admittedly Nikon makes a great body, but let's see what they can do making their own sensors, starting from scratch, without any input or use of Sony or Fuji technology. I shoot Canon, why? Because Nikon can't make superior lenses. Sensors aren't the whole system, and the difference is truly minimal. And the AF between the two is even less of an issue, the top 4 bodies from Canon can do anything the top 4 Nikons can.The glass is where it's at.

Thanks for your your unbiased review and technical explanations. Your voice is definitely needed in our industry.

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

Alexandre Almeida Thanks, Alexandre!

Tony! Love your video's! Hope to see a review on the D750 soon

Hi Tony, please give me some hand, I'm intending to buy a Canon 7DII to replay my old 5D mark I. May bye also a 100-400mm II of canon. How much is the different between 7DII and the 5DI (some body told 7D a little better. ...????) I'm intending to go more into wildlife and sport/indoorsports. what should it be 7DII or the 5DIII

Great insights on this camera. Very informative for someone about to purchase the 7D Mark II. I Appreciate the extra effort to dig deeper into the information available from other sources.

@cardiacade

7 жыл бұрын

Did you get it?

@TrevorJonesAstro

7 жыл бұрын

cardiacade Waiting until black Friday.

@cardiacade

7 жыл бұрын

Trevor Jones Good call.

What applying the same approach to the 6D mkII?

Hi Tony, Could you compare 5dmiii with magic lantern using dual iso feature against the Nikon d810 for dynamic range in a future video? Dual iso with magic lantern is supposed to give Canon 14 stops of dynamic range which should equal Nikon. I think it would make an interesting comparison.

hello tony - can you make 7d mark ii VS 5d mark iv please.. thanks

Tony, love your explanation on the details of the DxOMark's scores. Could you do a video explaining the details in their scores on lenses. I like the geeky stuff.

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

Phillip Grimmer I like the geeky stuff too, as theoretical as it gets. I'll definitely add a DxOMark lens explanation to my to-do list.

hi , i've just upgraded to 7D mark ii, i follow your videos and they're really helpful. it would be great if u could do a tutorial on 7D mark ii and also the lenses that go best with this one ! thanks

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

Devki Patel OK, here ya go: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fId-ls-rhN2qhMo.html

Thank you Tony for such an in depth report. You did mention the Samsung NX1 - can we look forward to a review? Regards, Martin

like the information, but shouldn't pixels quantity/density, and resolution be included along with sensor size?? and the resulting finished image

Always interesting. Thanks.

Do you agree with dxomark scores with 7Dii and ef supertelephoto zooms and primes?

Dear Mr. Northrup, I enjoy watching your KZread videos and want to thank you for sharing them. They are nicely produced and contents are highly educational.

Can we use 7d m 2 in fashion photography and how is the quality ?

The GH4 and EM-1 sensor are not BSI, however you are correct that the NX1 sensor is BSI. I too am looking forward to NX1 reviews. Hopefully you guys will be able to get a hold of one for review.

Hi Tony , ik really like you reviews , but i have a question , I like the 7d2 in everything . but the 6D is also a nice camera but 2 years old. is the 6D also useable for wildlife en sport? i mean the 7d2 is really fast . but the 6D has a full frame and the images are clearer isnt it? what about the iso between them? i hope yu can answer my questions.

Oh man, i am so torn between this and the new sony a7II when it arrives, i do like the canon lens choice especially compared to the miserly sony native set up, but was thinking of getting the 70-200mm in either the canon or sony FE mount, i shoot mainly landscapes and macro but do fancy looking at trying the telephoto side too, what can anyone advise. i'm not too picky about some softness, i'm no pixel peeper either, i just want to experiment and post and hopefully sell stock?

Please help me tony I purchased the canon 7d mark 2 And for some reason I'm not being that impressed with the pictures I'm taking. I'm no professional and still learning photography but when I take a photo that appears in focus which it is. When I put it on my laptop the photo is not as sharp when I crop and zoom in . I am only interested d in bird photography and my picture just isn't that sharp when you start zooming in am I doing something wrong. Was using the. 300 f4 canon lens when I took a picture of a gull ? Just seems compared to my Nikon d7000 I had the pictures where still nice and sharp when zooming in more. Sorry I know a long rant

Hi, is the stunning digital photography book available in hardback?

Hello Tony "a Q from belgium" which is better for sport between 7D mark2 & Sony A77 mark2?

Which version DPP did you use. Version 4 is much better than earlier versions

I'm a bit of an all-round shooter, I guess. But I like doing landscapes (storm chasing in particular, actually) and am looking to get into birds, wildlife, portraits, etc, I'm about to buy a friend's 70-200 f/4 non-IS for a good price as I've used it before and I love it. Actually I would love to get into wildlife but I haven't got a tele yet, until I get the 70-200 anyway. Anyway, question time... Will a 7D Mk II be a big leap over my current 40D mostly in terms of noise performance? I would consider a 6D, but the average AF system plus my EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS lens (and the 10-18 which I'm also about to buy) steer me away from that. Apologies if this is a bit vague, but what would you recommend?

Will this be a good upgrade in future and I currently own a D7100, plan on getting some low budget lens at $1500 AUD?

Tony Northrup did you test the A77ii AF system vs the 7Dii ? most of the reviews i looked at say the a77ii is on par or better at tracking. Not to mention the Eye-AF on the a77ii for portraits which seems to work very well ! i would be very interested in some comparisons of AF performance between nikon/canon/sony on their top of the line aps-c cameras. on lenses the only thing really missing on a-mount are >400mm primes, for portraits they got the Zeiss Glas or the sigma ART lenses, couldn't ask for more here :D

well done Tony! Thank you..

Dear Mr. Northrup, I have a Canon 1Dx which I use mainly to photograph my daughter's swimming competitions. with the 70-200 F2.8, I am very happy with the results. However, the weight has become a bit of a problem...I am thinking of trading in the 1Dx and get a 5D MIII + 7D MII and not sure if this is such a good idea. I would appreciate your comments or recommendations. Thank you.

7d mk1's used are available for a 3rd of the price of a new 7dmk2 so could pick up a lens or 2 if going for the used option. what to do.....

What us your thought on the 7d Mark ll and the Canon 5D Mark 4

Excellent review.

Hi , Tony . I would like to know that if I bought a used copy of "Photography buying Guide" , from Amazon , will I still be entitled to free update versions for the book?

@TonyAndChelsea

8 жыл бұрын

+Eric Taylor yep!

+Tony Northrup so you said the D610 is not good for photographing birds. Would you say the same for the D750 giving that it got the focusing testing of the D810?

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

TheKnut The D750 is definitely better, but (depending on how close you can get) you'll probably get better shots with a D5300.

Thanks Tony, very insightful!

I hardly use my Nikon and formerly Canon anymore-I am fed up with lugging heavy kit around. I use Panasonic; superb super sharp lenses and they have the association with Leica (world's best optics?) plus I can use Olympus Zuicko lenses which are also great. All I know is, I love the quality coming straight out out my G6 camera.

What is the music playing at the very beginning?

Tony Northrup Can you please tell me the name of this song and where I can purchase it? I MUST HAVE IT ! Its just the perfect tune. Great review, thank you for your honest opinion. Honestly, I have a Canon 550D for 7 years now that needs recent tech into it and the 7D mkII just may be the upgrade I need. On a side note, I've heard numerous complains saying how the video sucks and no flip screen and BLAH BLAH. Everyone forgets that these are intended for pictures and video is just an added bonus. If you want video, just go to the GH4, Blackmagic, or C100 and above. To be completely fair, if you're here as a filmmaker, the camera should be the last thing on your list. Story, lighting, audio should be first. You could make the best film on a cheap camera.

Is the 7D Mark II still your go to recommendation for wildlife and sports shooting? I have a 70D and feel the focus system is behind what I need it for. Specifically, shooting my 2 year old running around outside, beach ect. and also trying to capture marlin and action fishing shots on a boat in the ocean. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Thx!

@astawapurnajaya1720

8 жыл бұрын

definitely.. my friend use it for wildlife and its like 1dx on crop sensor camera.. focus is amazingly fast..

Just a great video Tony, in my opinion you're the best photography expert on you tube

I use a 7dii, and a 60d as backup, and even my 30d as backupbackup. I just don't see any difference between all three when I use plenty of light from a flashgun. For me it's all about handling and ease of use. And great AF.

is the tamron 150x600 with vr a goodset up

@Tony @ Chelsea; Please i need your advice; i also own a 6D/5D iii and a 100D, but i'm so so doubtful of getting a 7D ii because what i read from a lot of 7D II users about its ISO. I watched your video's about the 7D ii but then also read a lot of comments of users who say the 7D ii is really worse in terms of ISO. Is the 7D II better then my old 100D in terms of noise? And are you still standing behind this review about IQ from 2014? I really really hope you will comment :) Greets from the Netherlands

whats the name of the music at the beginning plz?

That is what I call a deep analysis. It is great to see someone actually knowing what he's talking about. I share the same opinion, considering the sensor efficiency, the new 5D mark IV everybody talks about, will probably have the same performance as the D810. Which is a big step in, preventing people from switching brands.

What about the Minolta AF 400mm F4.5 HS APO G?

how does this camera do for films

For the Sony A77-II, you could use the Minolta AF APO HIGH SPEED 400 mm F/4.5 G, which can be have for around $2000 on ebay, or if you want to go cheaper, the Minolta AF 300mm F/4 High Speed (HS) APO G, which sells for around $1000 on ebay. I think both these lenses give you equal quality compared to the Canon EF 400 mm F/5.6 L USM, and have a larger aperture. So there is an alternative for this Canon lens with the Sony A-mount. I realize you can only get it second hand, which some people do not like.

Simply awesome analysis

I agree with Tony, In real usage, Color depth is not distinguishable by our eyes, The level of current color depth is way beyond our eyes limit. Only the ISO noise and Dynamic Range are relevant, especially for the purpose of sport photography. Nothing is better than 7D mark II ability in tracking the subject under $2k. That is the main point of 7D class

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

rondhole Thanks! I had several people violently disagree about color depth, and I asked them to send me a sample picture showing how you could see the difference in color depth... Also put out a challenge on Twitter. So far, nothing, no examples.

@rondhole

9 жыл бұрын

***** Because D600 cannot replace what 7D2 does but may be 6D. It is just different class and purpose. You cannot find anything from Nikon that has 7D2 characteristic. D7100 does not have the same level of weather sealing and toughness, nor burst rate and buffer. Besides 10% more image quality for still photo, there is no advantage of Nikon system in sport and wildlife APS-C. It is not about still picture and pixel peeping. It is all about capturing the moment, responsiveness, and dead on autofocus that 7D Class offers. If you cannot get the moment and focus, it does not matter what your sensor is. No matter what, Canon still leads the sport and wildlife APS-C camera sale for that reason, not pixel peeping.

Thanks for the "Real World" comparison & review, I just purchased the 7D Mark II and was becoming regretful after reading a few reviews. I've regained my confidence in my decision to purchase the 7D Mark II after viewing this video. Thanks Again!

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

dabiggsho We continue to use the 7D2 for all sports and wildlife, and we have one of everything. It's the best action camera ever made.

Wow, lots of negativity. Just want to share after my first full day of shooting with 7D Mark II. I owned 70D for about a month before exchanging for 7DMII. The 70 D gave soft focus way too often. I was hoping the 7DMII would give crisper images, and it did not disappoint! After importing into images I immediately noticed a much higher 'hit rate' of images with spot on focus. I quickly identified 34 photos that were stunning without any post processing (immediately rated 5 stars). I will still do some adjustments on these and others, but very happy with these results!! My buddy who was shooting the 5D Mark III, couldn't believe the fast shutter on this thing!

@JerryMcMurphy

9 жыл бұрын

Oops... Should be "... Importing into Lightroom..."

Great job!!!

Thanks for the real talk .i love canon .could you plz do review of Nissin MG8000 flash for canon ? See if it's really better then 600ex.

TONY PLS HELP basically i shoot fast moving things and sniping around so which to go? 7DmkII or 80D? cuz 7DmkII offers dual card slot and tough body but 80D has vari angle screen and lower price point (and newer) pls help THANK YOU SO MUCH :)

@TonyAndChelsea

8 жыл бұрын

+Jabbawockeez The Noobsterino We're testing the 80D this week, so stay tuned.

Nice dslr! I just started a few month ago with a 550D. I still got the body and updated my lenses to the 70-200 f4 is and the 17-40 f4 L. Now I want to buy a used body for wildlife and my Budget is limeted is the 7D still a good choise? Used they are around 500€. Keep the great work!

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

Rob1Rob2Rob3 Yes, a used original 7D with a used Canon 400mm f/5.6 remains my recommended wildlife setup at the ~$1,500-$1,600 range.

hai Tony .... your youtube channel is very helpful... currently i having canon 600d with kit lens... i love to do wildlife photography more.... i want to upgrade my camara. ... which one is better canon 7d mark ii or nikon D500

@JW-pg3vl

8 жыл бұрын

+Nidhin Vattavayalil D500 All the way mate. But it costs a pretty penny more.

@piotrka2842

8 жыл бұрын

500d.. definitely.. i mean d500. nikon d500 :)

I'm wondering about using a 7D2 or 70D versus a 5D3for video. I know it might not be your specialty, but video people are so into the 5D's because of low light performance reputation. Haven't seen if the 7/70's are becoming comparable. Ideally I want the 70D for the price and flip-out screen unless it's too noisy for run and gun video.

How about the video quality on 7d2? Thanks. Compare with 5d3, will it be the same?

@TonyAndChelsea

9 жыл бұрын

***** It probably won't be quite as clean as the 5D3, but the video focusing system will work much better. For video, though, you really should look at mirrorless cameras: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m46p2tFriqngj8o.html

@sunnyspeed-studio

9 жыл бұрын

Tony Northrup Thank you!!

is the wifi a need 1069.00 dose not have it or should i up grade to the wifi

Agree, I don't think the system is weighed properly. ISO handling is so much more important than color depth. And, hell, if you're shooting properly, you shouldn't need much of that extra dynamic range anyways, really. However, when you Nikon D300 and can't shoot over ISO 200 without getting noticable noise, that's a problem.

I sent a message via Instagram. I'm after opinion on 70-300mm VC DI f4-5.6 on 7d mk ii and problems with sharpness. The DXO rating is 6mp for the lens on this body! How can I improve the image quality without changing the set-up?

Amazing to look at this 8 years later and seeing how iconic it became for wildlife shooting and is still used today by many.

From your presentation based on the DXO scores, The Sony SLT A77 II has a better (all around) sensor. Sony with Carl Zeiss lenses can compete with any Canon or Nikon system. I am a Canon user (the Canon 1Dx).

Theres my next buy. Need it for fast indoor shooting, not ideal but its only one i can afford. It will work with 35 and 50 mm wide open most of the times with iso 3200, mostly for web usage.. f/2.8 is to slow for me, f/2.0 to keep over 1/1000s with with maybe little -ev on apsc.

I really learn a lot from your videos Tony and I admire the work done by DxOMark. I believe it is very important to know as much as possible about your camera and lenses. But ... sometimes ... seeing this kind of comparison between cameras I begin to think that my equipment is a piece of S... And I should change immediately whenever a new camera enters the market and that's not true. I bought my 5D3, 7D1 and all my lenses with hard work. Unfortunately I can't change my camera every year and I believe this is the reality of most professionals like me. A camera 50% better than another will not make a 50% better photograph. Thanks for reminding everyone that image quality is not everything!!! Thanks again! keep up the great work