7.31 and Primal Beast Update - We Say Things 140
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"The episode with the 7.31 and Primal Beast Update"
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@benjaminpeter3382
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Haha yeah I think you can just send it straight away from me know you don't have
@benjaminpeter3382
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Haha yeah I know you from work today so I'll try and make sure you don't get me a new
@benjaminpeter3382
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Haha yeah I am going home to work with him
@benjaminpeter3382
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Haha yeah I know right right when we talked it said it wasn't going
@benjaminpeter3382
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Haha yeah I am going home for Christmas break but not
2:26:40 "Sagan Bounces" So, now we know what breed of cat Sagan is: He's actually a Tigger
Finally a non-anthropomorphic hero in a very long time. And one that actually has pretty fun and unique abilities, also pretty rare last years.
@TeddyTentacle
2 жыл бұрын
Fun and unique? Brawler type hero with a long range (mobility) spell, an auto attack modifier, a spell that deals damage based on your attacks and a stun. Doesn't sound at all similar to Marci, Dawnbreaker, Snapfire, Void Spirit... They are all the same man, how in the world do you think this is unique? Only the design is, this hero is like the 10th version of the same concept.
@tiagomota4734
2 жыл бұрын
For real look at that hero and you practicaly seen my fick
We say things - The antidote for our time.
Video starts at 9:11
No markers :(
I am mostly disappointed from the lack of map changes. They only moved the bounty rune and pushed the tier 1 offlane tower forwards.
@hm02fly75
2 жыл бұрын
The lack of map changes recently is interesting. It's not like they don't know people have been clamoring for map changes for some time now so I'm curious as to why they seem to have no interest in changing the map since this was be the big game changing patch. If there were map changes coming any time soon it would have been in this patch.
I agree with Synd on Neutral items. They are so asinine. Both teams get the items, and sometimes games can just be won by a team randomly getting the best item for their team comp while the other team gets sub optimal items. It gives the illusion of variety and strategy, but in reality they are DOTA 2's version of runes and mastery's from LoL. They make you think you are getting more customization/variety on your hero, but in reality since everyone gets them it is a zero sum mechanic in the game. Overall they are just too random to make the game better. But it gives people warm fuzzy feelings so I guess we get to just live with them.......
@Anon-lu6ct
Жыл бұрын
I wish they were Turbo only until they get reworked
agree with synd on neutral items. They still seem very artificial in how you just have a system completely outside the agency of player interactions
About cooldown reduction diminishing, the calculations don't really matter which item is taken into account 1st; as the final number will always be the same.
The instant Synderen corrected Sunsfan on "brooch", I knew we shared the same energy.
Chapters where?
no timestamps?
They make everything so much "the same". Every hero needs to be able to do everything... Look what they have done to my boy techies :(
ooo 3 hours long video, this gonna be a good watch *congrats on getting another sponsor from manscaped.
Purge is proud! damet garm daash ☻
I don't like fixed timers like shard in dota. It would be a lot more fitting to have an event that enables shard. Like first tower destroyed, level 6, first blood, etc. (Same with the lane creep aggro until 5minutes into the game.)
@jirobow
2 жыл бұрын
yoooo this sounds cool, especially since every game might have a different tempo. Also you can make more interesting strategies around it (other than literally looking at the clock).
axe culling blade doesnt counter shallow grave anymore btw
i already liked the old patch but i would appreciate some map changes, especially the stairs around rosh pit could get a change.
I think the double at 25 min items are because there are more item upgrades. Upgrading to an end-game item is pretty cost-inefficient so most of the time you would sell your Null Talismans for new item slots before upgrading to Wind Waker or shit like that. Now the decision to upgrade your Eul's/Witch Blade/Blink first or selling your Null Talisman for a new item is more real.
How do I skip to that part I want to hear
I love map changes, can't wait for the map to be new and fresh after the new update :)
@Katakuri_08
2 жыл бұрын
You mean map changes for 7.32 or 7.33? coz i am pretty sure the next major update will be after TI again, if valve will be lazy as they are right now, the next major update will be the same date next year (Feb 2023) xd
only 3 hours? Would have still watch even with purge levels of length!
i first picked pb as pos 5 and we won, really fun but i have no idea what pos youre actually supposed to play him as
Techies... PepeHands Look what they did to my boy.
Hahaha above 3 hours! I so called it !
Holy shit! My middle name is Amir too and go by that because I think there is a tad too many Mohammeds 😅
TIMESTAMPS MY DUDES?
So many changes... I'm surprised they didn't also change OD's name this patch
Kobold GPM aura would be really nice if your team is losing and you're stuck in base trying to hang on.
So SUNSfan is basically tuskar
I've suggested the Hill Troll Priest's Heal about ten thousand times in the playdota forums. Fucking finally. Old Radiance never had Talisman, this change was suggested in reddit. It's exactly the same as the suggestion. Sunsfan is wrong, dota1 has blind too not evasion
Holy fucking shit, missed last week episode and was kinda sad it was only 54 mins. Then clicked on this episode and its 3hr long, wtfffff
3 HOURS SWEET LORDY JEBUS
So now that the game has been changed a lot, perhaps the extra return of A-Z? :)
@Chapterhouse86
2 жыл бұрын
As much as I would love that, don't hold your breath. The only thing DC puts out besides this podcast are
now wait to the next podcast to see Synderen praising to nerf all the items that he think that suck bc in reality are to op and beggin to buff the bracer (even if he think he to op in the first impresion)
alpha, beta, Charlie - Sunsfan
I like neutrals, and I like how they start to end games before they get too long. I'd be cool with Syn's idea for 75% of their current strength.
So marci is still not going to be in pro games? (didn't say added to captains mode)
Rain of Destiny is somewhat better on Nature's prophet like a global rain that heals and corrode armor for enemies. It seems more appropriate on him to make the map somewhat like a rain forrest.
timestamps please
Zoo meta and Chen meta
Bruh. Mr. worldwide is pit bull.
3 HOURS !!! not that i wouldn't watch
very small patch
Låålåäöm pool åp
Lina/Fiery Soul is garbage now: you have to wait for the 15s to elapse, no continuous casting to extend the effect. Once you cast your first spell, the timer starts and you can't extend it.
Shame about techies. Would've been better for them to replace blast off with his lvl 25 mine movement speed talent to just send a minefield army at your enemies. Also, the Boots of Bearing should be renamed the Bongo Boots.
there could be a chance that valve rushed the patch out just so- Russian army is busy trying out the buffed AM, and thus any military advances would be halted
Techies change hurts my soul, barely played him past few years because I transitioned to mid. But my second most played hero literally went from a hero and loved and adored since dota 1 to a hero I don't even want to play.
@peterbedford449
2 жыл бұрын
I used to play techies a lot when you could stack the land mines. But haven't played it in a long while because I found the most recent version boring. I, for one, welcome the changes. I like the direction they are taking him, and I think with a few more tweaks he can be on a really good spot. I think him being an active hero is a good thing for the game overall. I think they should try to retain some of the old flavour too though, and make sticky bomb more of a skill shot. They should consider allowing blast off to suicide again, for one, as that was a big part of the old techies.
@mitch7110
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why you are upset about new techies if you barely played the old one. New techies is a mid what’s the issue for you to try?
you must hate mirana shard please, its bad
I would have traded map changes for all the neutrals, who truly cares?
neutral creeps all having spells now is awesome, what the actual heck is Sunsfan whining about. Bad take my friend.
@MrJulian1154
2 жыл бұрын
It feels very strange ingame. Yesterday i watched a stream and there were two giga random neutral denies with the spells in one game which was really strange
The whole patch was so disappointing. It feels like the whole patch was basically made to buff Enchantress and Chen, and the rest of the game is pretty much the same.
dont want to put wood into the fire or justify. but if you wanted to learn more. check the video :Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer: please dont use comments for debate or discussion.
Trying to order a carepackage for myself from @manscaped but it continues to reject my payment info =( I know the CC is valid as I have just purchased something else from another service just prior.
It's "broach" because american is not english.
every new hero looks worse than the previous one...LOL used to copy dota...now dota does the opposite
LET'S GO PUTIN!!!!!!!!
@jirobow
2 жыл бұрын
oh no
Pls dont say anything about Ukraine if you dont know waht actually happened. and happened 8 year already.
axe culling blade doesnt counter shallow grave anymore btw
@spencersmith7142
2 жыл бұрын
yes it does. alt-hovering the spell shows something like “damage is not protected by shallow grave and similar spells”