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@ONYX-365

Жыл бұрын

Not interested in litre+ bikes 🥺

@tomryner5830

10 ай бұрын

I’ll replace my mirrors with an. oval chrome ditto and an all chrome exhaust. Together with my brown saddle that will make my Speed Twin 1200 absolutely Fab

People who complain about the throttle on this bike really need to get some wrist control. I had no issues with it from the start and I do very mixed riding. The brake squeal was due to the lack of copper paste on the brake pads, easy fix.

@pmdinaz

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I've never understood or agreed with the complaints over throttle. I think it's just a bunch of parrots with no real experience.

After seeing your "Speed Twin R" ride featured again in this video, I pushed the button and ordered a 23' ST 1200 with the idea of making one myself.... fast forward to 4 months in and I'm almost there, I wanted to keep true to the beautiful lines of this bike (in my opinion at least the best looking retro of them all), but add a bit of modern edge to make it a true "Modern Classic" so with rear & front suspension upgrade, decat and pipes, a tune and high flow air filter, 3k from triumph's parts catalogue, bits and bobs from British customs and motone and some carbon fibre notes from RSR-moto Europe my Speed Twin R is almost complete, bar the paint and a few more details.... I couldn't be happier with ( dare I say it), my forever bike. Thanks for all the vlogs you make mate, they really helped me zero in on the perfect bike for me.... especially when there were limited test bike available over the past few years due to covid and supply chain issues. The roads of Australia might not all be perfect for this type of machine, but the glorious weather does go some way to making up for that fact. Please keep being my go to channel for all things motorcycle mate. J

@FilipeNeves-xp1ur

Жыл бұрын

It's a wonderful bike, perhaps the best in its category

Just got the bike about 3 weeks ago absolutely in love with it ☺️ the torque and the looks are just amazing. Correct me if i am wrong but I don’t think there is another naked bike that has such torque at low rpms. This bike is no super naked but thats whats fun about it. You don’t have to rev to infinity and beyond to feel that power. Its very beautiful and can also cruise just fine if you want to

I have a Speed Twin 1200 and it took some time to bond with it. At first, it was too easy to ride after all my years with large cruisers. Second, it gets a little buzzy above 3,500 rpm, like the Japanese bikes. But the more I ride it, the more it satisfies my lust for a nimble, strong acceleration motorcycle. It feels like it's maxed out at 4k, then you yank the throttle and you're at 100 in the blink of an eye. With three Triumphs, I appreciate the quality of these bikes.

Got a Gen-1 bike and love it. Smooth, grunty engine is a joy and you soon get used to finding the side stand. Stock exhaust sounds great too.

I have an identical one to the one you presented. Love the tank colour and put a gel insert in the seat to assist on the comfort side. I have a V4 Ducati Diavel & BMW R1200R for longer distances but love the Triumph on the hilly curvy roads near my home in Canterbury, South Island, New Zealand. Really enjoy your good road tests

i have to agree, i have had my Speed Twin 1200 for a couple of months now, (had its 600 mile service this week @ fowlers) rear shocks are functional, but a bit naff. i am 6' 2" the bike is on the small side but fun to ride. brakes are breathtaking, even the rear is good. low speed can be fidgety, Rain mode sorts it a little... but not totally. i had a black one, with CNC brake reservoir, head bolt covers, light bezel, clutch guide, heated grips, tank and knee pads, and the necessary radiator guard!

I have a 2020 model fully adjustable nitron rebound and dampening fork inserts and nitron remote res shocks on the rear, motone cat delete full exhaust, custom paint and rest of bike blacked out even all the bolts. Love this bike for the Sunday twisties. Handles like a dream now.

I’ve had mine for abort 2 months and love it. And I really enjoy that it had a gentleman mode and beast mode. Not sure I agree with the poor in town manners, I have no issue

@Alex_mkII

Жыл бұрын

I didn't notice any problems when I test rode one either.

The suspension does make a difference… I moved my rear to ohlins from the thruxton rs and the front to the ohlins from speed triple 1200… since there is no xpipe possibility, I had put the pipes from tec that go straight to the v&h endcans. The tyres are a different story, the racetech are good in clean roads but give them a bit of dust or wet conditions and they tend to make the traction systems work over time, I had shifted to Michelin road 6 and they are really good…. the bike now is much lighter and handles well at what ever speed one thinks of doing. As for the jerky throttle, I had put a t120 front sprocket and it’s sorted..

Love my speed twin... had mine 2 and a bit years now and still makes me smile. Done plenty of mods for this bike on my channel

Ahh I miss my Speed Twin. I had one for a year and it was a brilliant bike to ride but unfortunately didn't suit the kind of riding I tend to do more of which is loading up with tent and bags and go touring, so ended up replacing it with a Tiger 900 which I also love (but perhaps not quite as much as the Speed Twin!). I could feel my heart jumping a bit when I was watching you ride that Speed Twin and feeling a bit envious. If I had the money and garage space for the second bike, I'd have another ST in a second.

Bought my '22 new moving from a Honda CB1300. Handles like a dream very torquey like the Honda but being a twin feels more raw. Only things I miss are the underseat storage and fuel range but the grin it puts on your face more than makes up for it.

Great review! I appreciated the discussion of the seating position and fueling.

Totally agree with your opinion on the suspension, saddle, comfort, tires. Indeed, it is a good weather bike. And therefore, too expensive. BUT the riding experience is ssoo good and addictive... and the sound...out of this world. Helped me to forget the cramps in my right leg...

@BneMoisha

6 ай бұрын

What do you mean when you say "good weather bike"?

Love love love mine. Add ohlins and decat plus tail tidy, made a set of street twin leather bags fit and it is perfect for the commute and twisties.

I adore my '22 model. Perfect road bike for my needs, good looks and fantastic build quality. Definitely needs the standard silencers swapping out for a bit more noise, throttle spacers and rear shocks to sort the niggles out.

@Beat_Daddy

8 ай бұрын

maybe for you. I dont need new rearshoks, neither Throttle Spacers or a loud bike...

@flamintasty

6 ай бұрын

@@Beat_DaddyNobody asked you.

The bike is great, the length of the Thruxton r shocks is indeed longer. Been doing a fair bit of customization for customers at the shop❤

Thruxton r shocks definitely fit no problems but requires spacer washer at top lug to avoid (possible)contact with frame..black springs look mint👌

I really like your content, follow u for awile now. I got the 2020 SpeedTwin love her, but let ask you something what would u recomend for all seasons tires? Thank you so much for the content 🤙

As a litre+ bike rider my whole motorcycle career, I feel like not enough people appreciate the rear brake for smoothing out big power when opening the throttle.

@Fittednocap

Жыл бұрын

So you’re breaking with the rear as you’re coming off the line? Would love some advice thank you

@tgmwright

10 ай бұрын

@@Fittednocap yep, good for city riding when you need to keep the speed low

@aaronjoby8109

6 ай бұрын

💯

I love tempering it with it with the clutch! ❤ My Monster 797 had similar manners at low speeds..

Great vid. Had a 1st gen for about three years. Great bike, tho I think they should come with asbestos trousers as standard. Anything under about 40mph on a warm day and you'll have a right leg like a well boiled frankfurter...

I have a 2nd generation model. I have black Ohlins rear shocks and the throttle spacer. It’s such a brilliant bike and looks beautiful too.

@jimfield3023

11 ай бұрын

Hi where did you get your throttle spacer from a are hard to fit

REally looking at one of these and wondering if putting a Power Commander on it would help with the low end fueling. Thoughts?

My friend solved the side stand issue by installing a rubber door stop on the kickstand lever - a simple fix. Great bike. I have the ‘22 and just did a 500 mile tour in California on it. Great for right sections too with the 160 rear.

@SirTrizzle

7 ай бұрын

I just use the heel of my foot and kick it out. Easy peezy! My previous experiences I’m used to was using my toe area to push down the kick stand.

I own one for a year now and this bike is a lot fun as long as the ride is less than one hour between stops

love your laid back informed presenting style,.. keep it coming

No booster plug available for the euro 5.. but you Can remap the latest speed twin..I did mine with tune ecu.

Great overview. I agree with pretty much everything you said. Can’t say I’ve ever worried about the kickstand, though. Stick some Öhlins on the back and it’s the perfect, if largely impractical bike. I don’t think I’ll ever part with mine😊

@Obeanony

Жыл бұрын

Yup I agree with everything he said as well. Kickstand only bothers me in the rain, with wet boots I have to stick my toes out and get it down on the back of my heel, small irritation on an otherwise amazing bike. I did upgrade my front master cylinder to a brembo corsa corte, WOW it brakes like a supersport now. Highly recommend that as a second upgrade after rear suspension.

@michaelp.2678

9 ай бұрын

What do you mean when you say, "impractical"?

The beard fact with retro motorcycle is so spot on.

i have me a 2019 and have had it for almost 3 years now. plenty of customization options like you mentioned. I didn't touch the suspension for nearly 2 years. I'm a fair weather spirited rider and a little on the heavier side, sure there were times I wish I had better suspension; but for those that just get the bike and want to swap/upgrade suspension out the gate I would strongly suggest just riding the bike as is. Another thing I notice is that people buy these Speed Twins and try to make it something that its not. There's other bikes out there for other purposes. I've turned mine more into a cafe racer style adding spoked rims, cafe fairing and running no rear fender. But to each their own. Great content as always! I'm just happy to see some content on the Speedy! 🤙

@alexpryce555

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by making it something it's not?

@dahonu85

Жыл бұрын

@@alexpryce555the bike is what it is, a modern classic, a blend of power, performance and looks. I see a lot of ppl try to make it a tourer, it’s not set up for that! They try to add top boxes and side bags, raise the bars to scrambler bars. There’s a reason for the different type of bikes out there and bless your heart if you can afford more than one bike for whatever purpose that you put that bike through. But at the end of the day it’s not a tourer and I’m just tired of ppl trying to make it something that it’s not. Get a Tiger or a Scrambler.

@tedcity5861

11 ай бұрын

I'd like to see your speedy with the spoked wheels, very cool. I dont favor the cafe look or style but as you said to each their own.

@ed.t.hansen6499

5 ай бұрын

Live my street twin

I just got a '23 earlier this year. This bike has exceeded my expectations in so many ways. Like you mentioned, it is not a lazy bike, it wants to go but it is a very playful type of bike. My Speed Triple felt like a weapon in comparison.

@I_am_Thursday

Жыл бұрын

This has a million more characters than your speed surely? The street had some playfulness but the speed was dull as ditchwater by comparison.

@ChuckChrome

Жыл бұрын

@@I_am_Thursday Not sure if you are replying to my post but I have a Speed Twin and had a Speed Triple for Triumphs. For Harleys I have a Street Bob but that is an entirely different animal.

@I_am_Thursday

Жыл бұрын

@@ChuckChrome Exactly I am. The Speed triple is dull but the Street triple has something about it. Not as good as the CP3 but that's probably why you need to valve service them every 12k. But from riding both the Street has a more exciting engine than the Speed triple wise. IMHO.

@ChuckChrome

11 ай бұрын

@@I_am_Thursday If you find ~40 less horsepower more exciting than good for you. I wish I could unlock that secret.

Love my SpeedTwin. It’s exactly as advertised. Got some Nitron shocks for the rear on mine.

@speedtwin1610

Жыл бұрын

same here!

Is it any good for a tall riders (6"2 188cm)? Thanks! Great video!

Are the foot pegs position interchangeable with T120? One owner said that he put SeedTwin 1200 foot pegs in his T120. 1" higher & 1" further back. So I guess you can use T120's goot pegs on Speed Twin 1200 wherein it'll be 1" lower & 1" forward. Please enlighten if this is possible. Thank you.

I have an identical one to the one you presented. They are a great wee bike but I would not wish to go to far on that seat. I had a gel insert put in that helps but I have a BMWR1200R & Ducati V2S Multistrada for touring down here in the South Island of New Zealand

Have a street twin. Want bigger or better handling for 2 up ?? Compromise size for small, short etc or a tiger 900?

Nice bike. I had the 1st gen. Really enjoyed it. I part ex’d it for a 1200xe. More comfort, more road presence and just as quick.

@johanthorn1968

Жыл бұрын

Did the same swap, from a 2nd gen though. No regrets but I do miss that hooligan feeling from time to time.

I’m looking at trading in my Scrambler 900 for the ST 1200 Stealth Edition. Would you consider upgrading the stock rear suspension for a set of Ohlins shocks? 😊😊

Had mine 3 weeks. Love it. Looking forward to when its run in. 💩 weather preventing this😢

I love my speed twin, it's my first bike, never had an issue in town and i never found the throttle an issue, my only negative is it gets REALLY hot! which can be uncomfortable on a hot day in stop start traffic, i replaced the tyres for Michelin road 6's and they are great on this, i don't find the rear suspension that bad at all either despite every review mentioning them, maybe it's a weight thing (i'm 6ft 2 and 11stone), i agree the stand is a pain but i've not had an issue with it really, some boots make it easier to get at that others, it can be uncomfortable above 70mph+ but it is a naked bike, and it can feel a little twitchy at speed too which i think it down to the short wheel base, the T120 is deffinately better for cruising but i found the speed twin so much more fun than the T120 personally, mine is the revised 2021 model

@juliencolonnello1782

7 ай бұрын

Hi! I am looking for my first bike. Do you think it’s a good choice for a rookie ? Not too much power ?

@ukvamp

7 ай бұрын

@@juliencolonnello1782 depends what sort of rider you are. I had quite a few lessons on a Suzuki SV650 and got used to the power of that. I took it easy for the first few months, it'll only go as fast as you twist the throttle. It is quite weighty so that took a bit of getting used to. Test ride one if you can and see how you feel, if you don't feel confident, get something else. Everyone is different. I only got my bike licence at the grand age of 40 so i had 22 years driving experience in cars to help so i could just get used to the bike and not worry to much about driving if that makes sense

@rottweilerfun9520

6 ай бұрын

@juliencolinnello1782, You're better off with less bike and learning to ride it really well, then moving up. What happens with people who start out on a bike like this is that they never become really good riders because they don't ride wdll enough to get what they can out of the bike. It's like a guy who starts going to the gym and gets on steroids immediately , he's going to grow of course, but he would have gotten a lot bigger if he first got as big as he possibly could naturally, and then did the steroids. Make sense ?

@juliencolonnello1782

6 ай бұрын

@@rottweilerfun9520weird comparison with the steroids 😂 but I understand what you mean. I didn’t mentioned that I am not really beginner because I own a 125cc bike. Since my question here I had the chance of testing a ST1200. I felt it really comfortable and manageable. The power of this machine can be very smooth.

I demoed one recently and was surprised with how refined and silky smooth it was. Maybe it’s because all I’ve been riding have been used Japanese bikes 😂. It’s on my dream list now!

I own a 2015 Harley Super Low 1200 T, a 2020 Harley Low Rider S, a 2020 KTM 790S Adventure and a 2016 Motto Guzzi V7 II Stone (which I am currently trying to sell). I want to purchase a smaller lighter Motorcycle for use as primarily a "city bike". I am leaning towards the 2023 Ducati Scramble Icon. But am open to other possibilities. But the bike has to be light weight (comparatively) and be retro styled and mechanically simple in design and also have ample power to be fun to ride. At some point I may also sell my Harley SUper Low 1200T keeping the Low RIder S and the KTM 790 S and whatever lightweight "city" bike I end up purchasing. What is your 2 cents worth of advice on my predicament ?

They had to cost cut somewhere AND they had to keep a distance to the Thruxton somehow. But this bike is the must have for people like me this days!

Nice a great review. I think I prefer the T120. It’s more relaxed ergonomics and those pea-shooters wins me over that way.

@photographerjonathan

Жыл бұрын

The T120 looks nicer but is heavier and 20 less HP. and in my opinion way underpowered. because for me even the the Speed Twin is not powerful enough. unless you are using it for putting through town and just using the low end.

@SirTrizzle

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@photographerjonathanthis is why there are different versions of the Bonneville. No one version is perfect for everyone. The Speed Twin 1200 has plenty of power. I traded in my MT07 for it. It’s like the same bike but more of everything, quality, price, power, and performance.

hi Bob! i am dying to hear your opinion on that white flashy thing on your head ruroc calls a helmet. please do a review.

Thank you for the honest review.💯

Link to the boots you're wearing?

Sure seems to be alot of people complaining about easily remedied things on a bike with great value. No bike is perfect for everyone. When I bought my '22 in Dec of '21, which makes it 2 years old already, I had a game plan for upgrades. I don't have the time or space to detail all the mods here, but lets just say its all come together quite nicely! I never even started the engine or rode the bike once, before tearing into it seven ways to sunday. With all the aftermarket support for this bike available, I had zero issues getting the parts I wanted. With an ECU tune, the mods I've done should pay off handsomely. It already pulls hard from 0-125+mph without an ECU flash. Should be like riding a brand knew bike all over again, after uncorking the severely limited factory tune.

on that first point about slow speed snatchy... would lowering the gearing work to smooths things out and sacrificing a little top speed?

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

Just needs to be tuned.

I owned a Thruxton which I loved to look at it more than ride it, just a little too much shoulder and neck soreness. I hope the Speed Twin 1200 (RS?) specs up closer towards the Thruxton. Then I'll be ordering one.

Does anyone know if these bikes are comfortable for a pillion ?

I own a first gen, I like the older look of the ‘right side up’ front. Also for me it feels more balanced than the new one who is to stiff up front. Mine is fitted with Motone x-pipe, vance and hines, a ecu flash and throttle spacers. Trust me, it pulls like a freight train!

@flexywing

Жыл бұрын

See my comment, does yours vibrate?

@holdencaulfied7492

8 ай бұрын

What a shock, the bike you paid for you like better than the new, updated machine.

Does anybody know if the T120 seat is a straight swop? Same frame i believe, seat thickness accounting for height differences

@speedtwin1610

11 ай бұрын

No is does not fit totally different fit..

One bike I would consider if I had the dough. A 1200 twin must have some serious grunt. I remember my uncle Steves Jota 1000. That was insane for a twin.

This couldn’t have been uploaded at a better time for me. I’m looking at upgrading from a Street Twin but I still can’t decide between this Speed Twin 1200 and the Thruxton RS, specially not being able to test the Thrux…

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

Really it's the same bike for the most part and nearly everything is interchangeable. For the price difference you get a lot more suspension from the Thrux, and it's simply the best looking cafe racer out there.

Nice bike! Looks good with a lot of power.

ya cant use a booster plug for 2021+ models...? I wonder who the genius is who figured out the throttle spacer fix. Dont have a Triumph but looking , i need to demo the T120 and Speedtwin 1200. I wouldnt mind a gen1 speedtwin.

Great looking bike plenty power too, when are TRIUMPH going to make a 1200 SPEED TWIN RS

I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it only had cruise control. I believe it's the only 1200 cc classic Triumph that doesn't have one.

So this or a Scrambler XE for a city bike for a guy that's 6'1", 235lbs?

Yeah, the side stand ! Triumph sent me several surveys about my 2019 Speed Twin 1200. I moaned about the side stand. They didn't fix it on the updated one from a year or so back ! That is probably my biggest moan about my speed twin. Otherwise I'm still loving my one 4 and a bit years later. Although I'd love a Speed Twin look-a-like bike , but with a 1 litre triple , knocking out about 130 BHP, along with a quick shifter. Triumph still haven't made that, even though I suggested it on one of the surveys. Yeah, Triumph don't listen to me !

Triumphs motor cycle I liked the most is 1200 rally pro.

I gotta say, this bike makes me miss my 2009 Street Triple R, which handled way better and sounded better as well in stock form

You talk about after market exhaust but it is my understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong, all bike manufacturers after 2020 model year are required to make the ECU monitor air/fuel mixture and should it detect any modifications cause a warning light on the gauges thus possibly causing the bike to run rough or worse shut off. This would keep owners of models 2021 and newer from either adding an after market exhaust for fear of the engine running too lean and therefore hot or do it regardless possibly damaging their new bike. This information is from the Booster Plug website and from me asking their support team why they didn't offer one for my 2023 Kawasaki Z900.

@flamintasty

6 ай бұрын

Simple, disable the 02 sensors in the ECU while the bike is being remapped. Job done.

Love the Speed Twin. I am getting on into my mid 50s now and have a 2016 TTR that I adore but the riding potion is becoming a bit cumbersome for me. I have often thought the Speed Twin would be the perfect bike for riding potion but I have disliked the thought of downgrade in terms of suspension Looks like Triumph has made some nice upgrades to the Speed Twin but the rear shocks need the same treatment at the TTR. I can attest to the benefit of the throttle spacer for smoother application of power. I have one on my TTR and it works brilliantly.

@holdencaulfied7492

8 ай бұрын

What is a TTR? Are we all supposed to know your abbreviations?

@Supercruze

8 ай бұрын

@@holdencaulfied7492 Trump Thruxton R

If you were buying used , is this model worth the extra over previous ?

And my Goodness does it Pull! A Suzuki GXS-S GT with 152hp really couldn’t keep up because of my bikes low end torque. But the GSX-S GT is a more competent long tourer… but…. Speed Twin

At a price like this it should be perfect ,why should you have to pay for after market stuff stuff to try make it run properly.

Tried one, but it wasn't for me. I was wanting to step down from fast nakeds to retros, as I was riding too fast everywhere. When I tried the speed twin it just felt like riding a supernaked, but in retro clothes. It only felt relaxed when I put it in rain mode. Personally, the reason I wanted a retro was for the chilled out riding at a less frantic pace. The speed 12 is only a retro in looks, not the riding experience. I enjoyed the street twin more, but it still didn't feel as good as the 790 bonny I used to own...

@holdencaulfied7492

8 ай бұрын

Maybe the Bonneville is what you're looking for? The engine is less racy.

What about the performance of Newly launched Triumph Speed 400

Any cams out yet?

I test rode a used on recently. Was actually too much for me. Maybe it was modded. Couldn't believe how hard it pulled.

Bought the Trident, but this is my second (and super close) choice.

Hey @motobob you really want to fix a major error in your video that is dead wrong around 3:00-3:45. You talk about Booster Plugs and ECU. I’m the owner of DNK TuneWorks, the only active tuner in this community. We are also the only ones that cover all Triumphs. All years of Speed Twin can be tuned. All Triumphs from 2010 onwards can have the ECU directly flashed. There was zero change whatsoever with Euro-5 as for tuning. The only change is that placebos like the Booster Plug now set off a check engine light, and rightfully so since the ECU cancels it out in milliseconds as soon as it sees the AFRs out of spec. Another would be that non North America market bikes require a tune even for sprocket changes. The only real fix is ECU tuning. The throttle spacers just take up any slack at zero throttle, which are also a mod that isn’t needed or an actual problem. Never do I get on a customer’s bike and even think or notice if it has these spacers installed or not. Truthfully if you aren’t and haven’t been tuning your bike, then you have no idea how much you are missing out. Triumph severely neuters many of its models just to have a little something extra in a few years when it needs an update. 165hp Rockets suddenly become 200hp bikes. A 103hp Thruxton RS suddenly becomes a 115hp bike. They bake in such heavy limiters in some models (60% throttle no matter how much you give it) that they truly become a different bike. The only exception is the early 900cc bikes that were sub 60hp. They simply have a weak camshaft. Please correct this error. You are uninformed and putting out very wrong information that hurts companies like us. I’d hope that you’d want to be helping the only source in the community that tunes all Triumphs from 2010+ instead of putting out bad information.

@Drzee1968

Жыл бұрын

What community are you speaking for, does that include the UK, being you're thousands of miles away?

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

@@Drzee1968 the Triumph community. We tune on six continents every month, have Triumph dealerships and private shops as partners, as well as all of the big reputable names in the aftermarket, Motone UK, British Customs, worked with Thornton, A&J, Conyon, and when I have free time will be working with Hitchcox for a collab on a Bobber TFC we're building. Hell, we were scrubbed in when BC was developing all of their new exhaust offerings. You'll also find a tuning guide on their website that was codeveloped with us. We originally just started on Modern Classics, but now we tune more Tridents, Street Triples and Rockets more than the rest, I reckon. If I could just find a Triumph dealer or shop in Antarctica, when we'll complete all seven continents.

Too late, already bought mine in June, and im in complete love with how it rides.

@FilipeNeves-xp1ur

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion it is the most beautiful modern classic on the market and with the best quality. Perfection does not exist, but it must be one of the closest to

@rockandchilimtb

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipeNeves-xp1ur add some adjustable susp, x pipe and youre about there.

Just curious but I have a Panigale v4 and have taken my girlfriend on a couple of rides but she doesn’t like being on the back which I understand. But she likes that retro triumph look. How is this bike like with a passenger, Is it relaxed and Cruzy? These type of bikes are not realistically not my kinda taste, but happy to get something me and the girlfriend can both be happy with while still keeping the Panigale.

Triumph Speed Twin 1200 vs Ducati Scrambler 1100 vs BMW R nine T. Is it possible by any chance?! 🙏🏼🍻

I just love this bike! It's so much pretty then the 900.

Love the looks of the T120 but I would prefer that it had a 17" front wheel(like the Ducati Sport Classics) for better, more sporty, lighter tyre options and looks too. Not a fan of 19/17 combos on what's a heavily biased street motorcycle. Leave the 19/17 wheels for the adventure bikes.

Riding this bike for over a year now and all of these yeap yaps ppl keep repeating is absolutely bs. This bike is pure joy, flawless and a beauty that I can't get tired of looking at it.

Hi there, thus is on my shortlist (no 1) as my next bike. However I was lucky enough to test one at the ABR Festival, but that one had really bad vibrations through the seat and bars. Anyone got any views on this?

@Denali1600

Жыл бұрын

Could have been a one off bad bike? I test rode the older version in 2019 and was a little underwhelmed, yes too vibey and not smooth enough. In 2021 I went back to triumph dealer intending to buy a different bike, but saw the 2021 (newest) model, fell in love, test rode it and smooth, not annoyingly vibey etc. Bought it and loved it for last 2 years. In fact one of the few bikes i've not put grip puppies on. (Obviously it is a twin and so there are vibes, part of the character. On the 2019 it was too much, this 2021 is perfect). Maybe demo bikes are ragged from early on and not run it properly, leading to bad vibes.

@tomostinato2918

Жыл бұрын

Definitely something wrong with that bike. My ST is dead smooth. Some early gen-1 bikes had a dodgy fuel map which caused the bike to hesitate when on constant throttle and cut out when rolling to a stop. I have a late gen-1 bike and it's superb, really smooth and no throttle issues at all.

@flexywing

Жыл бұрын

@@tomostinato2918 Thank you for replying, I thought it might that particular bike as the seat vibrated enough to give my wife's rampant rabbit a run for its money and the fingers on my right hand were going numb. It was a test bike with less than 500 miles on it, so I suppose it wasn't run in at all. am looking for a 19/20 1st gen bike. again thanks

@flexywing

Жыл бұрын

@@Denali1600 Thank you for replying, I thought it might that particular bike as the seat vibrated enough to give my wife's rampant rabbit a run for its money and the fingers on my right hand were going numb. It was a test bike with less than 500 miles on it, so I suppose it wasn't run in at all. am looking for a 19/20 1st gen bike. again thanks

@remcovanessen8441

11 ай бұрын

Hi mate, sorry for my late response! But mine has no excessive vibrations. It is a twin and above certain rev’s it starts to get a lil’ bit buzzy but nothing a sv650 doesn’t do. Nothing like numb fingers!

6:42 what was that odd visual effect?

“There’s a massively high probablility that you’re sporting a beard” 😂😂😂😂😂

The clocks look like a gormless alien!

I recently had the opportunity ride the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 trying pick a retro motorcycle, ended up making a whole retro motorcycles comparison video to share my due diligence with the rest of the world in hopes of potentially helping others in the same boat. The Speed Twin had a 'Gentleman's ride' vibe which I thoroughly enjoyed. In the end, I did end up on a hoon bike haha!

Love the orange just wish it wasn’t matte though. Doesn’t really matter as I don’t qualify for one due to not having a beard or any intention of growing one.

Best looking mike on the market.

For anyone interested in one, I recommend switching out the front 16 teeth sprocket for an 18 teeth instead, since the standard gear settings are like that of a tractor

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

18 takes this bike from a quick sporty bike to a bike with a useless 6th gear and T120 grandpa gearing. Kind of a waste for a bike with an 8000 RPM redline. Unless you really are into shifting into third gear at 80 and fourth at 110mph with two gears left on a bike that will hit terminal velocity before even shifting into 6th.

@TotalAnomy

Жыл бұрын

@@caferacerqu33n Dude... what are you talking about? I see nothing but advantages to gearing this longer than default -less buzz at highway speeds -better mileage at highway speeds -better mileage in general -higher top speed I'll grant you that it'll get a slower 0-60, but how often do you need that in your day to day life? High torque bikes don't need close ratio gears the way for instance a naked 600 does. BTW, with 18T, it still has higher 1st gear acceleration than a freakin MT09

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

@@TotalAnomy you won't get a higher top speed, sixth gear is basically useless, the bike will be lugging itself around town and the impact on fuel economy is minor since it'll be working a lot harder to maintain any given speed in top gear. I know because one of our customers races his Thruxton R on the Bonneville Salt flats, and for R&D, I've used just about every commonly available sprocket set on the 1200HT and 1200 HP engines.

@TotalAnomy

Жыл бұрын

@@caferacerqu33n Dude, I still don't know what you're talking about. I've done this 18T modification to my own bike, and I never looked back (in fact, my biggest worry now is that long term I'll have to find another 18T sprocket when the current one gets too old, since it wasn't easy to find - I should note that I do not live in the USA, where my current sprocket came from). What I listed above (less buzz at highway speeds, better mileage) were things that I've witnessed myself -as for top speed, _maybe_ you are correct, but I am skeptical of that since Adam Croll on youtube tested top speed on his stock Speed Twin and nearly hit the rev limiter (7500) on 6th gear, so I don't know how you couldn't get more with a 17T or 18T, specially since there's more power at 6750 than at 7500, and his bike wasn't ECU flashed at the time, which would give you more power. Regardless, top speed, like 0-60/quartermile, isn't even that relevant for day-to-day, and lots of sport cars have long last gears that the car has no hope of coming close to the rev limiter, and basically exist to provide a cruise gear that'll get better mileage at speed (there's an argument to be made that you'll get more efficiency from an engine above a certain RPM, but generally speaking you always get better mileage if you have lower RPM, I can send you videos that show this). Furthermore, if you look around at the gearingcommander website, you'll see that there are a bunch of sporty bikes with similar or lower levels of power (and often much less torque) which are geared higher on every gear than a stock speed twin/thruxton R, sometimes even higher than with 18T, and nobody is calling these bikes "grandpa geared" or something like that -it's just the speed twin and thruxton R that are geared lower than what you would expect for a bike of this HP and torque numbers (perhaps because they were aiming for outrageous 0-60 and quarter mile, I don't know). As for your argument that 18T will leave the bike "lugging around town" that makes no sense, since with this gear ratio, the first 5 gears are nearly identical to the (only) 5 gears on a street twin 900, except that a 1200 HP has way more power, which totally justifies one extra gear. Furthermore, I've seen a number of youtubers with speed twins or thruxton Rs either modifying them to get longer gear ratios (in one case this guy put a 17/39, way longer than 18/42, on a thruxton R, and was absolutely smitten by the result) or complaining that the stock gear ratio is too short for highway riding. You keep talking about a "useless 6th gear", to me it's the opposite, now the 6th gear is finally useful.

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

@@TotalAnomy guess who tuned Adam Croll’s bike? Me. Guess who builds these for a living and has years of first hand experience in all of this. Oh hey, it’s me again. Without a FULL fairing, a light rider you’ll not see past 150. Also tested on the Bonneville Salt Flats. With a professional rider, we saw 156 and it took miles to get there. This was a fully built, salt flats prepped bike with engine internal work. Also a 22+ Speed Twin has a hard coded top speed limiter that can only be defeated through tuning. Also the rev limiter untuned is 7300 on the old ones and 8000 on the new ones. With the limiters removed on the old ones, leak power shifts 400 RPM later, and that is still not enough to beat physics. The 900cc bikes run a 17/41 combo, and the gearbox is the same minus a 6th gear. I build and have built all of these. I’m literally standing next to a Tiger 660 Sport right now, loading up a baseline tune to it.

I rode one & found it to be a thoroughly modern motorcycle dressed up to look like a retro... Something I found terribly disappointing. I bought a V7 Guzzi. Not because it's a retro bike, it's not. It's an genuine survivor from a different age, &much more to my liking. Horses for courses...

As an owner of ST 22 (1,5 years already) let me comment on the same points as you: - engine - beautiful torque, throttle bit jerky (too much engine breaking power), top high rpm end is not so good - all those thing can be fixed with good ECU map (don't waste money for booster plug on 22 model -pointless) - handling - a bit on the heavy side and I don't mind the actual weight .... the weight feels in the twisties is a bit too much (center of gravity probably is higher), so you need much more work on the handlebars! If you consider buying it for sporty riding better chose another bike! - brakes - amazing, when you push them a lot you start hearing a bit of noise (fixable with EBC aftermarket pads - which improve the braking power as well). - tyres - personally for me and type of roads I'm riding... disaster. Swapped them with ContiRoadAttack4, totally changed the whole bike... much more confident and forgiving (excellent road tyres). RR3 are just not for normal road usage. - suspension - I installed aft shocks from Wilbers (not the high end series) and I'm happy with them - preload and rebound adj + nice color matching the bike Few other things mandatory for me to replace ware the levers and the exhaust (slip on from Motone - much better sound), still thinking should I decat the bike and install K&N also some other minor engine mods 🤔... aaaa some people are mentioning that the two throttle flaps are not synchronized - which is easy fix as well! At the end, very nice looking bike, fun to ride, very good quality, happy to have it!

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

Have you tuned it? Pulls very hard to the 8400 redline after tuning and makes peak power just under 8k

@ivankolev4662

Жыл бұрын

Agree! That will be the next step. As I said remap is solving most of the issues with this motorcycle (let’s say that stock fueling is not good, may be because of euro5 restrictions)

@caferacerqu33n

Жыл бұрын

@@ivankolev4662 It's the bigger cat, and then the secondary air injection isn't doing it any favors. The fueling after a decat and SAI delete get it 85% of the way there.

I can never get comfortable in the seat. Get moved around a bit. Emergency breaking throws me over the tank. And if I let the throttle out a bit too quickly I'm seated where the pillion should be 😂

I like mine, really like mine; but I am not in love with her. For me the bike is still flawed, even with a full Nitron suspension. Somehow I just can’t get the right seat. In fact the Triumph flat bench seat works best for me, but at the ton you get pushed off! I even have a full on very expensive seat, manufacturer to remain nameless. That just doesn’t work well at all. I like the customisation part, but it pisses me off that Triumph limits the throttle to a max of 90.5%!! You need a proper ECU tune to fix that! Here in Scotland nobody can do that for me. Granted it is still plenty fast and for a naked it keeps you on your toes. Once my old ZRX 1100 has been recommissioned I might flog her, but she is a damn fine looker.

I got those Furygan shoes.

Yeah it can be a bit jerky at low speeds compared to a three cyl. But doesn’t matter. The bike as such is a true Gem

Quality reveiw, camerawork is slick and info is relevant and in depth. I will never be able to afford this bike

@se11459

5 ай бұрын

Too bad you don’t live in America, only because they will happily finance anyone and anything!

Can we expect a review on that Ruroc you are rocking 😜

@Laksujaakso

Жыл бұрын

An honest review, perhaps 😎

Can this motorbike be lowered in height? I really want to have one but my height is a problem..😔😔😔

@flamintasty

6 ай бұрын

Yes, if you buy Bitubo rear shocks and fork cartridges.

@anchaglos5476

6 ай бұрын

@@flamintasty thanks.. 👍