The rounds that are known to penetrate 1/2" AR500 steel (per shot) are: 1. The .50BMG AP, API, APIT, Raufoss and no doubt the SLAP. .50BMG SLAP will also goes thru 1" AR500 2. The 4,000 fps .308 SLAP 3. And know we know 5,000 fps .22caliber 55 grain bullet will as well.

Holy shit ,I thought that I was safe in my ar500half inch armored house tank,I guess not!

bro, make a dozen of these, send em to demo ranch and it’ll get your subs up.

I think the solid copper bullets might not work as well as the lead bullets, because at these very high impact velocities, the density of the bullet becomes the most important factor, and lead has a higher density than copper.

Awesome video man, can't believe I didn't find it sooner! I found a NOS box of Rem Accelerator 308 55gr soft points at a pawn shop a while back, but they're only around 380p fps.

@HughesEnterprises

4 жыл бұрын

That’s pretty low resolution for ammo.

The rotational forces may be ripping the softer bullets apart. That happened to the early 22-250 bullets.

@christophegroulx8187

4 жыл бұрын

it's not

I'd be interested to see what heavier bullets would do. Some of the 77gr-90gr match bullets.

Awesome results... Let us know if you do more testing

I would really like to know where I can get these sabots or loaded ammo for my 300wm. Can you tell me where you got your's from.

@hk93shooter

4 жыл бұрын

@Tim Podhorn this is ar500. hardened armor plate.

What powder are you using when you reload? And what amount are you using per round?

I've read stories from guys that have pulled the bullets from .30-06 M2 AP and then reloaded it in .300 Win Mag cases with interesting results doing this type of thing. Apparently it takes a little bit of experimentation to get the load just right but pre-pulled M2 AP bullets are easy to find on Gunbroker. Might not be worth the trouble if you can already do it like this though.

@troyfairweather8553

6 жыл бұрын

id like to try them m2ap in my 300rum i got 80 round i my pull some down and try.

Can you do a ballistics gel shot through this? Or replicate Paul Harrels meat target with this round? Would really like to see what this does to soft tissue

Only reliable way to penetrate armour is extreme velocity.

Very cool test.

Velocity is KING! I wonder how great these would be overall with high BC heavy weight. 224 projectiles.

@jedidiahdanley1605

3 жыл бұрын

You would have to have a custom made fast twist rifling barrel to stabilize the high bc projectiles

@jamesmcfarland2636

3 жыл бұрын

Can't imagine the bc being to high on a 55g bullet

@Danlovestrivium

Жыл бұрын

@@jedidiahdanley1605 Makes me wonder how the plastic sabot would handle a higher twist. I wonder if there would come a point in which the pressure becomes too great and you'd see a mechanical failure or if you'd find that the plastic would end up pushing through the rifling instead of spinning along with it as it should. Part of the reason these things are so inaccurate is because everyone is shooting these smaller rounds through barrels designed for the original parent case and not compensating for the fact that the smaller rounds are going to have to be spun at a faster rate in order to take advantage of their original ballistic design characteristics. If this could be solved, this would be an extremely high performance round. I'm just not sure plastic would be the solution for the sabot.

Do you think the sabots are throwing the bullets off point of aim

Where's the chrono? Also sabots can't hit the broad side of a barn at any range.

Could need a different twist to fire that fast, your bullet is most likely tumbling. It happens with 223 loads a lot, I'm sure it's amplified here.

Bonkers Conkers!!! I Like It :-)))

what powder? i got 500 plastic sabots, 308 and 300wm ready.

give it a try with the ss109's. Interesting video man

How far away were you form the AR500?

Drag and O2 become a tricky equation to crack at those speeds. Think meteors burning up as they enter the atmosphere

@dhooter

5 жыл бұрын

@Pierre LeDouche Cool story. We were referring to shoulder fired weapons ie rifles using smokeless powder. Not much C4 being used these days in standard metallic cartridges.

Where do you acquire this ammunition? Special order?

What's the recipe list? Powder, sabot, case, primer. Very impressive . how do you think not having a barrel designed to stabilize that light of a bullet is affecting accuracy potential. Should be a laser beam.

@joshlower1

5 жыл бұрын

VS it’s not. Barrel twist is a myth.

I'd be worried about the plastic cover separating while the projectile is still within the suppressor. Is that something that could happen, cause some internal damage for sure? Does the plastic even separate? I've never messed around with ammo like this but find it very intriguing. Thanks for the uploads, it's neat to see someone experimenting with this stuff!

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

Brett Koski The sabot separating early is a fear of mine. But it's a 30 Cal sabot in a 46 Cal suppressor so it has a bit if wiggle room. I probably wouldn't attempt this if I was using a 30cal can for sure. If it hit the baffles it would impact at 5000fps which would destroy at least the baffle it stuck if not the whole can. Yes the sabot does separate, I haven't done enough testing to figure out where but by the time it hits paper at 100yards they are separated. So somewhere between 0-100yards lol. Probably within the first 5 or so. The plan is to try to get something like level 4 plates but no one seems to respond to me.

Hmmm is that even safe for you or the rifle? If it is I’d give it a try

Piece's of the sabot are stuck inside your supressor causing point of impact shift

Awesome Video! Just subscribed😀

Now they just need to make a 50 BMG 223 sabot.

What round did you use?

Dude u got Roswell alien fingers. Wow

1" thick ar500 steel will stop up to 20mm AP rounds. I've been sending those plates to DemolitionRanch, Dustin Ellermann, Edwin Sarkissian, Mark Serbu, and Going Ballistic.

@christophegroulx8187

6 жыл бұрын

speed kills

@Spartan536

5 жыл бұрын

@@christophegroulx8187 If you could get a paint chip to survive atmospheric stresses and accelerate it to 1/4 of light speed it would impact with the same force as Little Boy in WW2.

@MrRedeyedJedi

5 жыл бұрын

@@Spartan536 something going fast enough can split the atom. I believe I read somewhere that large meteor impacts can have a fusion effect if their uranium content is high enough, but that could have been misconstrued

@LocPH.

5 жыл бұрын

20 mm AP? The most I've seen from those channels is 1" AR 500 stopping 50 BMG AP and 20 mm steel core... but if you're right, plz link :)

@christophegroulx8187

5 жыл бұрын

LocalPulsar H. It’s from Edwin’s channel

Did you know if you could get a grain of sand to go 90% the speed of light it would hit with the energy of an atomic bomb

I'd like to see standard 300WM compared to the necked down .223. While I agree that the .223 bullet would penetrate better, I'm curious as to how much better it performs than a .300WM bullet.

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

That's doable. I've gotten demolished with these Nor'easters something lie 29 inches in the last week so it'll be a few days.

You can run, but you can't hide

You should buy an m993 projectile from CDVS and use a max load in 300 Remington ultra mag and get 2 inch+ thick ar500 plate. Make sure it’s sturdy and doesn’t move and is solidly in place. Also for the 40 grain accelerator, that’s not too impressive since 556 can get 4200 FPS in a 24 barrel. Figure this would be significantly above that. Might be if a ridiculously long barrel is used or an accelerator that makes better a seal.

What powder are you using?

@fjb4932

3 жыл бұрын

Some use Trail Boss and AA5744 for reduced plinking loads. A .224" 55grain bullet/sabot with Trail Boss sure puts a hurting on water balloons from my 30-30, 308, 30-06 and 300WM ...

Those saboted 30 cal have since their introduction had issues with accuracy due to poor stabilization. I can't imagine shooting sabots through any can, even oversized. Why shoot with the can anyway? Seems that the supersonic ( extremely) ammo kinda defeats the purpose. Just let her bark.

Hard to believe!

Speed kills

Id question reliability of sabot projectiles through a can.. might be what ultimately caused inaccuracy issues.

What is the accuracy on this,

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

Not good. 2.5 - 4.5MOA

Might want to mention the sabot bullets like that are only good to about 25 yards and after that like at 100 yards your groups will be around 24 inches totally worthless for anything Has everything to do with the twist rate of the rifle being too fast for that velocity and size of bullet

@joshlower1

5 жыл бұрын

Ray Blackburn that’s funny. The military uses sabot rounds in the barret just like this that can penetrate a half inch of hardened steel at 1500 meters. Twist rates are a joke. They don’t matter.

I would like to see a 308 cal. AP bullet in a sabot loaded and shot from a 50 cal. BMG.

@danielburnette9552

3 жыл бұрын

That already exists. Its called SLAP ammo for 50 BMG

@7150285

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielburnette9552 .308 AP black tip is steel core NOT pointy tungsten core unlike the .50BMG SLAP M903.

@danielburnette9552

3 жыл бұрын

@@7150285 true, but tungsten is harder than steel, so it will penetrate better than steel

@7150285

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielburnette9552 that is what I meant...

@7150285

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielburnette9552 in case you missed my video. Go check out 2" AR500 vs 50cal baddest round released by Going Ballistic. I stopped those 4,000 fps .50BMG SLAP tungsten round. Easily ;) Those rounds are even more penetrative than 20mm tungsten sabot round. Those SLAP killed the 1" AR500 and 1.5", 1.75" and 2" Titanium like butter!

So do these hold good accuracy?

@F15ElectricEagle

5 жыл бұрын

No.

or maybe the 3rd one went through the same hole...

Not very accurate are they?!

Have you tired using xm855 "green tip" in this?

@christophegroulx8187

4 жыл бұрын

You aren't very smart

@idreamofdragonso5677

4 жыл бұрын

@@christophegroulx8187 Never claimed to be smart. But what do u mean

@kaiserwigglesiii2369

4 жыл бұрын

@@idreamofdragonso5677 he's being an asshole. But yeah, green tips are worse than the standard m193. They're not very good at going through hard targets, they were made in the 80's or something to go through flimsy steel helmets at longer distances, not pierce something like 3/8" AR500.

That helmet wasn't covering much of your head..

@mopesrus7266

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter, that kevlar helmet aint gonna stop a roung going at his "claimed" fps anyhow. It does make him look like he shopped at the local surplus store though.

I may try this with my 300 Weatherby lol

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

Do it! I'm having trouble with lighter bullets so more speed is difficult.

@johnsheppard1476

3 жыл бұрын

@@glenbutler7901 try using .25 steel ball bearings as the projectile!That is how you test the limit of the powder itself!Even using a regular Mosin rifle I got the crazy results:over 7000 fps with regular gunpowder from Soviet ammo and the best result was so far obtained using the powder from the aircraft machinegun ammunition from WW2 because it is laced with PETN!So that stuff launched these tiny ball bearings at a whopping 8200fps!Those ball bearings weight just 1.07 grams or 16 grains so they are really fast!Try using them next time!

So watching the video I was thinking it's a shame you didn't have a steel penetrator round in the line up, then I saw that gapping whole you punched out. How about loading your own projectiles made from a section of ground down 233 hss drill shank.

do ballistics gel!

190 grain, and the 220 grain.

We need to replace the .50 BMG with this round

@blackirish781

3 жыл бұрын

The .50 bmg is overrated. Given the choice when I was in the army, I would go with the.338 over the .50 Macmillan that we use here. .338 has a better trajectory, weighs less, and isn't as loud.

@rickoshea8138

3 жыл бұрын

"This round" is not useful out at a mile.

@gearhead682010

3 жыл бұрын

This round would be worthless as tits on a boar hog at any distance period so your saying replace the .50, I don’t think so. You can literally kill at way over a mile with the .50 so if this shitty concoction only shoots a 3 to 4 moa at 100 yards you are absolutely stupid for the suggestion

5000 fps lead-core?

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, standard 55gr Hornady FMJ, lead core copper jacket.

@waynewilhelm1199

3 жыл бұрын

I got my 300 win mag with 180 sst superformance from hornady blow almost all the war through a 3/8 inch mild steel plate it wasn't supported and the plate went flying. I think if the plate would of had something holding it that the bullet would have gone all the way through

Would defeat tank armor?

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

Dick Blackbeard maybe like the side of a world war 1-2 tank. Nothing remotely modern.

5000 RANDOM feet per second.

@mopesrus7266

3 жыл бұрын

Really tiny feet/second

Thumbs up for Focus you fack! 5:00

SHREKT!!!!!!!

@joshuakoellner2918

6 жыл бұрын

Glen you have a potty mouth

Unless you have a crono reading of 5000 GPS I'm saying no way. Rem used to sell these in 30/30 and 30/06 55gr. No where. Near 5000 fps

@frankotto83

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpmcyLibitS-qNo.html

do i need to point out that a win mag will not do 5000fps. complete bs claim. to get it that fast, the amount of powder would blow up the damn rifle. i know. i use one for long range target shooting. at most you might get 2900-3000 fps out of it. and that is pushing it.

5000ft per sec nope

I hate to say this but Im not buying it. I have shot plenty of metal and while speed does some amazing things...that hole was made with something a lot bigger than a 55gr FMJ with a lead core.If I had to guess maybe it was shot with a 50BMG AP . I just dont believe that tiny 223 FMJ lead core punched that big of a hole through half inch armor. Until I see it with my own eyes, I dont buy it. Here is a 50BMG shooting half inch AR500 plate. You decide ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKaa1c16lrOoZdY.html )

@chrisa.9032

6 жыл бұрын

jrwill58 generally speaking, speed beats armour. At about 3000fps you will start seeing standard construction bullets damaging ar500. This is 66% faster than the fastest 50bmg military loadings.

@dapro2848

6 жыл бұрын

I tend to agree

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

I don't own a 50bmg yet. Speed kills steel this had a lot of speed. If you fly in up here I'll do it again for you otherwise I dunno how to convince you.

@Berserker71r

6 жыл бұрын

jrwill58 look at what rail gun are capable of at hypersonic velocities, the deformation properties of the steel change when things get real fast

@bwt3278

6 жыл бұрын

At that speed, that high tensile steel like AR-500 would pretty much turn into powder which could explain the larger cavity

I shoot 5/16 AR 400 plate with my .308 and my AR’s and don’t even dimple it with 62gr green tip.. maybe someone sold you a bill of goods on that plate.

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

Tim Mogle did you miss the first shot with a standard .223?

@bwt3278

6 жыл бұрын

Thats besides the point. Velocity is what defeats armor, you can shoot slow heavy AP rounds all day and you may break the plate but you will not penetrate it.

@bwt3278

6 жыл бұрын

Glen Butler I just recently saw someone shoot 3a body armor with a 20" 5.56 and it punched the plate and ballistic gel behind

@timsretired4835

6 жыл бұрын

I guess you’ll have to invest in some “real” ar plate and find out yourself.. and don’t view you tube videos as gospel.

@christophegroulx8187

5 жыл бұрын

Velocity is what goes through armor. A normal .300 win mag won’t go through level 4

Thumbs down because of the bad language. Won't be watching anymore of your videos with my sons.

WSSM gets um up there without Sabot

@glenbutler7901

6 жыл бұрын

art karydez I'm seeing 3800 fps for 223 wssm with a 55gr bullet. That's not even close.

@roadkillanonymous4807

6 жыл бұрын

Wssm is little more than a .220 swift with different case geometry. My hornady load manual shows .223 wssm hitting 4600 fps with a 40 grain bullet. This video is showing 5000 fps with a 55 grain bullet.

@relovat

6 жыл бұрын

223 wssm, 220 swift, and 22-250 don't come close. Even a 30-06 with accelerator round doest come close. Awesome setup and wicked penetration! Keep up the good work...

@relovat

6 жыл бұрын

Don't get get all butt hurt arty farty just because everyone proved you wrong. You reach around giving ass pirate!

@relovat

6 жыл бұрын

Lol, fat? Keep dreaming... Seriously though, you are a corky looking fucker with your peachfuzz beard. Your fries are burning corky...

5000fps.. mmm ok.. so you get 50 rounds to each barrel..lmao

@buckfutter99

5 жыл бұрын

Clinton Walsh that's what the plastic sabot is for...

@Spartan536

5 жыл бұрын

@@buckfutter99 Excatly, this is using a .223 saboted in a 300 Win Mag cartridge, he is using SAAMI spec chamber pressures for 300 Win Mag. This would also be unenforceable if legislated as "armor piercing", anyone can make plastic sabots, especially 3D printers, hell you can even make them by hand, although it is very tedious.

@charmainewalsh6516

5 жыл бұрын

@@buckfutter99 I know. Just thought even still the speed even with plastic it will not be healthy for the barrel.

There's no bullet travels 5000 feet per second the fastest bullet is from a 220 Swift which travels 4000 feet per second😒

@christophegroulx8187

5 жыл бұрын

fitness strength it’s custom made

@effortlessly

5 жыл бұрын

fitness strength he’s chronoed his loads at 4,950 something FPS... look at his other videos

@fitnessstrength2320

5 жыл бұрын

@@effortlessly is this guy is saying that his bullet goes that fast then he's lying the fastest bullet I've done research I know a thing or two about guns is 4000 ft per second the fastest bullet capacity a bullet can travel do your research you'll know that I'm right

@effortlessly

5 жыл бұрын

fitness strength kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpmcyLibitS-qNo.html

@ap1s2k78

5 жыл бұрын

Incorrect

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Conceding the the size of that hole, it's obvious that the plate was shot by 50BMG AP round. Fake video

@miex110

6 жыл бұрын

Jack Garcia chunk is an irregular shape, not nice round hole wit traces of the jacket left behind

Your TOTALLY WRONG !!!!! A .300 WIN MAG loaded with a 210 gr. Cutting Edge BTHP WILL BLOW RIGHT THRU THAT 1/2" AR500 , done it many MANY times testing rounds for AP performance....... And I highly doubt your getting 5000fps - more like 4400fps - put those rounds thru a chrony and check them.....

@joshuakoellner2918

6 жыл бұрын

yeah Glen you idiot... read a book and learn how not to be TOTALLY WRONG!!!!!

@christophegroulx8187

5 жыл бұрын

No it won’t. A .300 win mag with even less grain than that won’t go through a level IV. Stop lying

@frankotto83

5 жыл бұрын

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