4x4 Timber Trailer Build - START to FINISH
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Building a 4x4 PTO driven timber trailer with hydraulic crane from start to finish. This project has been a dream of mine probably for a decade and now it's reality. The custom PTO shaft between UTV and the trailer still needs to be fabricated.
Trailer specs:
* 28x11-14" tires & 14" rims
* width 1500mm, length 5000mm, height 1900mm
* tandem axles with homemade chain housings
* BMW E39 530D differential with 2.81 gearing (identical to the UTV diffs)
* hydraulic crane with a boom & grapple for easier log loading & handling
* independent hydraulic power pack
* radio controlled hydraulic winch on the boom
* load capacity - 1-1,5 metric tonne
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4x4 PTO Driven Timber Trailer BUILD series: • 4x4 PTO Driven Timber ...
Homemade 4x4 UTV build: • 4x4 Off-Road UTV Build
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Welding equipment borrowed from Spetselektroodi AS, Estonia:
Fronius TransSteel 2700 welder
Optrel Crystal 2.0 Welding Helmet
Hypertherm Powermax 45 XP plasma cutter
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@TheStuartstardust
Жыл бұрын
Just in time for the most expensive winter for people who need to buy wood, instead of collecting 💪🤓
@MrBloodySerb
Жыл бұрын
Well done! What is the weight of the trailer?
@kimomedterkimo2731
Жыл бұрын
@@TheStuartstardust 000p
@user-wf3zl5oi1f
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@user-vv3kq1tb6y
Жыл бұрын
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I have faithfully followed this entire build from day one, so I think I have some standing in the game and I think I speak for a majority of your viewers when I say that we want to see a full video devoted to ONLY you and your trailer/atv in the woods filling that trailer up to the top with logs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Sham1r0
2 ай бұрын
In the winter being pulled through a ton of snow
Waiting to see the PTO shaft hooked up and in action 👍👍
@TheHungrySlug
Жыл бұрын
me too. I foresee problems arising when he tries to move the axle position on the trailer, when it's still got the PTO hooked to the ATV. Gears binding up and what not. Unless there is a clutch of some description that can be released and re-engaged once desired wheel position is achieved. That's my 2 cent take on it. Otherwise, I think it's freaking awesome of a build. Edit: I re-read my comment and realise that I forgot to add part of what I meant to say, and that was; Unless there is a clutch of some description "that can be fitted", that can be released and re-engaged once desired wheel position is achieved. Sorry, sometimes I miss part of what I intend to type.
@martinharris8645
Жыл бұрын
@@TheHungrySlug In view of the alignment challenge I was thinking he might be planning to use a hydraulic drive mounted at the front end of the trailer’s drive shaft.
@Lombardini490
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍PTO hook up👍👍👍 👍👍👍PTO hook up👍👍👍 👍👍👍PTO hook up👍👍👍
@Reman1975
Жыл бұрын
@@TheHungrySlug There's no clutch. There's also a bigger problem that I'm pretty sure he's going to find. This isn't an easy concept to get across, but basically, If you have a normal trailer and pull the drag bar around at 90' to the usual direction of travel, one wheel will rotate forwards, but the other will go backwards. that's fine on separate free wheeling hubs. If on the other hand, you have a differential in there and do the same you'll end up with the forward rotation of one wheel cancelling out the reversed rotation of the other, and the input shaft will stay still, but if you're powering that input shaft, the trailer WILL move. When doing tight manoeuvres, like U turns, there's going to be times when the ATV is at quite a large angle to the log trailer. The powered trailer wheels are still going to be trying to move along at the same speed as the ATV's wheels, but the ATV will be traveling at a tangent, so it won't be moving as far in the direction that the trailers pointing per wheel revolution as the trailer want's to (I think Pythagoras get's the blame for that). So, what's going to happen is as the ATV turns, the trailers going to start trying to push it. As the angle between the trailer and ATV increases, the difference in distance the ATV moves Vs how far the trailer wants to move grows, until it jack knifes the ATV. when the trailers loaded it's likely to have more grip than the ATV, so this will make the problem show up sooner. The scary part is that as soon as the ATV starts to get pushed, it'll escalate into a full on jack knife fast, and there won't be much time to do anything about it. I'm not just theorising here either. Years back the British army experimented with PTO powered trailers for their Landrovers, and after several injuries due to jack knifing, they realised that having assets occasionally needing to be pulled out of mud/sand was preferable to having the asset damaged and stranded on it's side in a war zone (with the crew potentially injured). There's also been problems with a few other army's attempts at AWD articulated vehicles. It's a known issue that seems to have been largely forgotten due to there being hardly any "Dumb" (Rather than ones having a proprietary clutch and sensor system built in) PTO powered trailers existing anymore......... And the reason for them not being common is this exact problem ! I think the last powered trailer I read about used a PTO driven pump to power hydraulic motors on the wheels, and it used a proportional valve to adjust the flow to the motors based on the hitch angle. The manufacturer wouldn't have gone to all the added expense if a direct drive worked as is. I originally brought this up a few months back, but a handful of sycophantic fans shot me down for daring to question the all encompassing knowledge of Donn. The guy's human, and he can't see every engineering problem before it happens, but I was blasted hard enough that I decided to just wait for it to be finished and see what happens. I'm guessing the next video will most likely show who's right. One solution that I suggested back then was that he could remove this problem (and incidentally remove the problem with the wheels turning while changing the wheelbase) by fitting a viscus drive coupling from a Landrover Freelander onto the trailers drive shaft. This would mean the trailers wheels would almost freewheel until the ATV started to wheelspin, then difference in wheel speeds would wake up the viscus coupling and send drive to all wheels.
@thestreets5206
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
Unbelievable. Incredibly talented. Beautiful equipment.
Восхитительный проект, смотрел с самого начала и до последней серии. Шикарная установка получилась, прицеп с манипулятором, ещё с подключаемым приводом, изменяемым центром нагрузки, супер!!! По виду как с завода, даже лучше. Молодец, слов нет. Руки золотые. Смотрел так же как мастерскую под резак готовил, убирал старое оборудование, пол переделывал, стены прошивал панелями, в итоге станок собрал, резак по металлу. Моё вам почтение, уважаю трудолюбивых, целеустремлённых людей. Спасибо за видео.
@user-bf2hf5wr3g
Жыл бұрын
Да у него оборудования столько, что не в каждом заводе России есть
@user-em2xx7yt6f
Жыл бұрын
это очень занудный холостой непьющий человек ))))
@danieldragota2985
Жыл бұрын
@@user-em2xx7yt6f 🤣🤣🤣👋👋👋....
@osloweknownas
Жыл бұрын
Why have you not hooked up the trailer drive to the PTO?
@russia_winner
Жыл бұрын
@@user-bf2hf5wr3g что-то не заметил каких то мощных станков. Ты о чем вообще
The one KZreadrs video you like before watching
@SG-uh6sw
Жыл бұрын
Straight facts
Donn Brilliant , Now 86 just got my shop functional, Have to look to you young guys for wisdom, Feel like a kid again. Thanks MEL
Настоящий инженер конструктор,малодец !!! Привет с Кыргызстана ! 🕋🇰🇬🌱🌎🌿👍👍👍
Donn, this by far is the best build on You Tube video I ever watched. You are on another level. Pure talent of engineering. I want to see this beast in action with full capacity.
Класс все серии смотрел ждал завершения проекта, ждём испытаний в лесу как эта техника себя покажет.
Долго же мы ждали завершения проекта. Ты молодец. Получилось супер. Хочу себе такой же😁💪👍
AWSOME JOB VERY WELL BUILT BE LOOKING FORWARD TO WATCHING MORE VIDEOS
Nice one excellent work very well done ✅
Великолепно! Уровень - промышленный, может даже и выше. Продумано и предусмотрено кажется всё, и - реализовано. Идеальная сварка. Браво!👍
@eliaspeteri1487
Жыл бұрын
ELIASPETERI ANUY LIIKOTILA
@1KWattmizer
2 ай бұрын
The unit warrants full production. Your work is excellent! ✅
эстонец молодец , удачи тебе и новых сильных проектов , с уважением из россии....
@motorilla123
Жыл бұрын
Поддерживаю!
@mrGorin
Жыл бұрын
Однозначно!
Damn that was an awesome sick build! Thank!
That was worth every minute of time watching this👍😂🤷♂️
Великолепная работа , продолжай !
Your ingenuity and perseverance are impressive. The final product really turned out well, probably better than anything you could buy.👍
@eliaspeteri1487
Жыл бұрын
ELIASPETERI ANUY LIIKOTILA
@eliaspeteri1487
Жыл бұрын
ELIASPETERI ANUY LIIKOTILA ❤❤❤🥰
Can’t wait for the ultimate wood harvesting video from Donnie. Cutting down the trees and hauling with this all the way to being stacked in the totes with his conveyor belt.
Блокбастер!!! Поздравляю тебя!!!
Palju õnne suure töö valmis saamise puhul✌️👍👌🤠
@DonnDIY
Жыл бұрын
Suured tänud!👋
Отличная работа, этой зимой окупится
You are so genius! Unbelievable!
Thats PRO level.
Всем привет, следил за всем процессом от начала и до конца, отличная серия самоделки. Что будет дальше? Ждем новых проектов!!!
Wow!! That turned out great , a very nice trailer I think that would make wood cutting fun again!
Великолепный результат упорного труда!
отличная работа, завидую твоей упертости! в хорошем смысле)
Living in life you see a lot of different people doing different things, watching KZread you see a lot more. Don DIY I have to say as a fabricator extraordinaire, every single thing I have ever seen him do he has taken to the Limit of expertise. All of his projects have been absolutely the greatest to watch thank you so much for sharing the things that you do.
Отличная 🤝работа👍👍👍
Donny you've made a monstrous beast. Nice work. Now you'll be hauling huge logs out of the thickest backcountry.
Excellent performance,waiting to winter 👍
It’s been an amazing build to watch! You are a true craftsman! Thanks for taking us all along on the journey!
Absolutely amazing Donny. Your skills are unparalleled & you never cease to impress. Thank you so much for sharing. I'm afraid your next project will have to be very spectacular to rival this built. Billy J.... Queensland, Australia.
Вы просто прекрасный инженер изобретатель!!!
Genius son just genius, that is proper fabrication and welding skill’s sir.
I loved the whole process, always waiting for the project updates. It turned out amazing. Keep up this great work!
@eliaspeteri1487
Жыл бұрын
ELIASPETERI ANUY LIIKOTILA ❤❤🥰
This is an awesome project! Lots of work you have done with this. The hydraulically sliding axle is good for helping out as well when you are stuck. And if the wheel bearings won't hold the weight then the sleeves are an option to space up the outer bearing. Cheers mate! 👍 Waiting for the demo day! 😜
@DonnDIY
Жыл бұрын
Gonna go to the forest and take down some spruce killed by bark beetles and turn it into firewood. The trailer will get tested properly.👌😉
@netts2315
Жыл бұрын
@@DonnDIY Awesome! When are we going to see the video? Absolutely blown away by your skills! Subscribed!
Fabrication at its best
You're the KZread DIY GOAT! The One Man Manufacture!!
Awesome work! You may want to add a slipper clutch to the rear pro shaft. That way when your making turns you don’t get drive line bind. Looks great!
@marcomanes3967
Жыл бұрын
Same with moving the axle back and forth
@NeoMK
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it will bind with an open differential.
Your skills are pretty amazing! I enjoyed every single episode of this timber trailer fabrication and can't wait to see what come up with your next project! Keep doing that amazing stuff! All the best for you!
1 word... Genius. Cant wait to see you drive it loaded in the snow..
While I believe that I could learn to skills needed to build this I would never have the vision to design it. That’s more impressive to me than the fabrication.
Has been such a nice project to follow! Cant wait to see what you come up with next🤟🏼
Хорошая работа и задумка неплохая... При наличии такого количества инструмента и станков можно и космический шатл построить=) А так красавчик - руки из правильного места растут. Мне вот интересно сколько стоит подобный готовый прицеп и сколько прицеп обошёлся тебе если ты строил его сам?!
@user-ei6qo3kv7s
Жыл бұрын
Полностью согласен. Построить такой-же прицеп у нас в России просто фантастика.
@user-vu3gx7eo9i
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ei6qo3kv7s ну не такая фантастика! Вопрос где ездить с ним - регистрацию на него не получить пока не будет сертификата и тестов с НАМИ! А если поймают в лесу с дровами то влепят такой штраф и прицеп на штраф стоянку с которой его будет не забрать без документов на него и штраф за дрова будет такой, что проще купить эти дрова.
@dimson5851
Жыл бұрын
@@user-vu3gx7eo9i по сути это прицеп к минитрактору. Минитрактору продаются заводские, ещё больше строится самодельных. Ни кто их не сертифицирует и не регистрирует. Если не соваться на ДОПы Вы мало кому интересны.
@user-vu3gx7eo9i
Жыл бұрын
@@dimson5851 раз в год и палка стреляет =)
@dimson5851
Жыл бұрын
@@user-vu3gx7eo9i если Вы не нарушаете закон, то и Вас ни кто не тронет. Не выезжайте на ДОП, не воруйте лес, и т.д.
Красава парняга 💪🏻 definitely like, good job !
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼
Fantastic machine! It’s going to make log processing so much quicker and easier- super important in these times of ridiculous energy costs. You are a very talented engineer Donn 👏👍
Enjoyed this, in my experience there is one issue with powered trailers to be aware of - if the towing vehicle looses traction but the trailer doesn’t they can jackknife and turn the vehicle over.
@Bob_Adkins
Жыл бұрын
The jackknife would be in slow motion, you never back up fast with a trailer full of logs anyway.
@kiddoduke2103
Жыл бұрын
Bob the ones that happened to me were going forwards in a turn and happen at what ever speed you are moving. If it’s slow enough you can get the clutch in first.
@Bob_Adkins
Жыл бұрын
@@kiddoduke2103 It's definitely something you have to be aware of and a lot of other things.
I love home built equipment. I have done some on my channel and enjoy it so much!
@dfreadhoff
Жыл бұрын
Just checked out your channel, good stuff!
I'd fly to the moon any day with engineer onboard. Could fix or fabricate anything. Beautiful work. First time viewer.
What an amazing fabricator you are. Inception though to paint and demonstration. One thing - you never showed the drive shaft of the trailer being driven by the PTO on the "tractor", or did I miss that? It seems to me you err on the side of strength in your designs, which is natural when you aren't sure. I wonder if some nice software company out there could train you on the FEA software so you could lighten the design and therefore the end product? You certainly deserve to be supported by the latest computer aided design software.
Great project with a fabulous looking result, can't wait to see it on challenging ground with the pto connected and full of timber. Well done Donn, you inspire a lot of us "Freds in sheds", keep it up. Have you got the next project on the drawing board yet?
@eliaspeteri1487
Жыл бұрын
ELIASPETERI ANUY LIIKOTILA
Absolutely remarkable
The best video i ever seen.. And this is on KZread.. 👌👌
That is amazing, worth the wait watching as you built this. Just curious, why didn't you show it with the PTO hooked up, are you waiting for the right shaft or are there complications? Thank you for all of the amazing content amd entertainment, cannot wait to see what your next big fabrication project is!
Колоссальная проделанная работа!
чувак,ты большой МАСТЕР!!!
As a big fan of Made In Poland, i'm shocked i haven't found you until now. Awesome work!
Looking forward to seeing pto drive being used. Presumably the trailer’s axle position is set first, before the shaft is connected. I have a homemade log saw, the pto shaft on it has an overrun clutch built in. Could this be used to help lineup the splines when connecting the pto shaft? Love the build.
@carld3184
Жыл бұрын
They sell a one-way clutch for the old Ford (Ferguson) 8N and similar tractors with the solid PTO output drive. Such a one-way clutch is essential on these old tractors because a large bush-hog or similar high speed implement will keep pushing the tractor forward even if you step on the clutch. Not having this clutch Makes for interesting driving around ponds and buildings especially since the brakes are quite useless. Donn could install this commercially available one-way clutch and eliminate any driveshaft binding. The clutch would also act as a simple center differential when driving in tight corners.
@salzar4431
Жыл бұрын
@@carld3184 it serves the opposite purpose for my log saw. The 700mm blade has quite a lot of momentum. If I switch the pto off, the tractor brakes the pto. The momentum of the blade would wind the blade’s retaining nut off, if not for the overrun clutch. We have an IH B275 from 1960, terrible brakes.
Hi, as always, I'm duly impressed with your technical and fabrication skills. However, unless I've missed it, I didn't see an explanation of why there is no shaft connecting the trailer PTO to the UTV PTO. Without that connection, what was the point of fabricating those chain drives - it's just another logging trailer with a mini-crane bolted on and an adjustable center-of-gravity? I'm an old man with limited education, so maybe I'm not understanding what I'm seeing correctly. Can you explain it to me in terms I can understand? Thank you.
@marcalmarcos9
Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but it seems to me that the pto is turning the wrong way. so if the car goes forward the trailer wheel will turn backwards
@nordishkiel5985
Жыл бұрын
That will come later I guess. PTO needs a clutch, to move the trailer axles without binding up the PTO.
@randytravis3998
Жыл бұрын
@@marcalmarcos9 not sure on that ,, video will mess with the turning of things ,, watch the tires on some movies and the car is going forward and the tires are going backwards ,,if they use a very costly camera it solves that problem ,, not sure if its backwards or if its the video ..In my comment I was asking Donn if when he was moving the axle back and forth the tires were turning the driveshaft ,, maybe it was making the UTV drive back and forth also .. PTO is hooked to the drive shaft if I remember ,, so if you twist the PTO the UTV will move ..?
@jimthode
Жыл бұрын
Mike, You are correct for a normal tractor PTO. The PTO drive would be backwards. I don't know about a UTV. Also the PTO would only work or match the speed in a single gear (if it turned the correct direction).
So this is the video that my father watching for 1 Haur straight.
You can't rush art. Well built
This has turned out so good! It looks amazing and can't wait to see it perform when driven by the PTO. Do you have a plan for extending and retracting the wheelbase while connected to the PTO, or will you just disconnect it while you make any changes?
@kameljoe21
Жыл бұрын
The wheels move back and forth with a sliding drive shaft. The pto shaft is a farm shaft that can expand great lengths.
@MalcySP
Жыл бұрын
@@kameljoe21 I understand that, but as the wheels are moved, there is rotation in the PTO shaft. If the 4X4 is stationary, how will this work? There would need to be either a slipper clutch or some way of disconnecting the PTO from the 4X4
@kameljoe21
Жыл бұрын
@@MalcySP The pto comes out of of the rear of the ATV which spins at the same rate as the wheels on the atv. The diff is the PTO pretty much. The quick change pto adapter connects to the trailer which then drives the rear wheels. Think of it like this, The drive shaft rotates the atv wheels and that same drive shaft rotates the trailer wheels. They are all connected as one unit. Much like a US Semi with tandem axes would. The pto shaft just expands in and out. Square tube inside of another square tube turn the rear diff connencted to the wheels. The only time you need to remove the pto shaft is when you disconnect the trailer.
@MalcySP
Жыл бұрын
@@kameljoe21 watch the video when Donn is extending and retracting the wheels on the trailer. The wheels are on the ground and you can see the diff input shaft (ultimately connected to the PTO output of the ATV) rotating as the wheels move alomg the ground. So if the PTO was connected to the ATV and the wheelbase is adjusted, then the PTO will try to move but as the ATV is stationary, something will need to slip or be disconnected.
@joel8340.
Жыл бұрын
@@kameljoe21 what he means is, as the trailer extends when the ATV is stationary, the trailers wheels will turn as the hydralic cylinder pushes them backwards, this will create a rotation in all 4 trailer wheels and if the ATV cannot roll there needs to be some sort of clutch or disconnecting the shaft so it doesn't cause damage. This would not cause a problem if the ATV can roll (eg the park brake isn't on)
DIY, yeah, right! Along with a $100K+ shop and years of experience and a huge skill set.
What an absolute genius. Your amazing.
@DonnDIY
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching🙏
3 cups of coffee and complete satisfaction for the morning. Great job!
Talk about over engineered, that thing is a beast & should last forever & a bit, I love it.
Parabéns você e fera .
Отличный проект.
Wow, My best friend, It's so beautiful video !!! enjoyed watching your video !!!
MUY BUEN TRABAJO... SALUDOS DESDE BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA
Very cool build! Congratulations!
That's beautiful design and workmanship.
My friend you are a fabricating genius.
The trailer is a miniature version of a commercial wood trailer. Fascinating build, but an overkill. You really don't need a diff, movable wheels or that kind of functionality. But I may be wrong. Opinions are subjective, but bravo for the build. Well done.
You sir are a badass. I build stuff all the time and you have my respect
mechanical engineering and intelligence made an incredible machine, 👏🏻
Didn’t see the pro work. Great work with a lot of equipment.
Can’t wait to see pto hooked to vehicle going through mud or snow or maybe up a steep hill.
Love your work. And humour
Хорошая работа.!!!
Молодец. Внукам ещё достанется в наследство.
I`m proud to know that you are polish , smart and hard working citizen of my country
@DonnDIY
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, but I'm estonian from Estonia. But still - not far from Poland. So basically the same.😀
@marekowsianiecki7340
27 күн бұрын
@@DonnDIY I admire Your work and that`s fact . What many watchers obserw there are planty of very good examples of valuable projects made by our close neighbours, Keeo up your work and let us enjoy it
38:08 Are those Vans and a skateboard?! I'd love to see Donn make a custom set of precision skateboard trucks! 🛹
I can't get enough of your channel! 😁
@DonnDIY
3 ай бұрын
Cheers!🙏🙏
Nice piece of equipment! 10 points from Finland! :D
I've followed this build since the beginning. I've been a machinist/fabber for 35 yrs. EXCELLENT job. A++!
Nice work, I’m impressed!
This video is of a true hero for home engineering!
Quality Donn, thanks, helps a lot!
Verneige mich vor so einem begnadeten Handwerker, genial👍👍👍
Perfekt das ist ja eine Meister Arbeit der Antrieb mit Allrad und zum schieben ! ! ! 🔧💪👍👌
Beautiful work, necelý dobe, great skills
This is ridiculously impressive. Wow.
Suurepärane tulemus - meistrimees on ikka meistrimees!
@DonnDIY
Жыл бұрын
Eks tõde selgub metsas. Kõike võib juhtuda, aga loodame parimat. 😄👍
Simply the best!
Well, I can assure you we won't be seeing any products from this shop blowing away down the neighborhood along with the other trampolines and garbage cans. This adds emphasis and understanding to the old phrase, "heavy man, that's heavy!" Kudos