I have always wanted a Focus RS!!!❤ Too bad the dealer markups made this car insanely expensive and hard to find.

@danield9021

11 ай бұрын

I got a 2017 Focus RS last year for 43k after taxes and what not. They have really held onto their value. I see them in the mid 30s to low 40s all the time.

@CopterCrasher

8 ай бұрын

yep these things arent cheap but definately seem to hold value. Love mine.@@danield9021

I may be biased as a previous b7 S4 owner. But that RS4.....High reving NA V8 wins for me

The Focus RS is my favourite hot hatch ever. It was the fastest/quickest hatch in the world at the time but never really got the attention it deserved.

@jasonpitts8395

Жыл бұрын

Focus RS may have been the highest priced ever too. Maybe why they didn't get the love.

@yissibiiyte

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonpitts8395 not really. It was cheaper than an AMG A45 yet outperformed it.

@damilolaakanni

Жыл бұрын

Dealer markups turned people away from them.

@MastersOfMask

Жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni it wasn't really the small markups, it was their problematic head gasket problem that kept buyers away, including me.

@jf8188

Жыл бұрын

@@MastersOfMask “small mark ups” 😂 a quick 5 minute search would have made you aware that those “problems” were fixed. It was just the wrong head gasket in the first batch of RS’s that came off the line

All hail Brendon

RS4 without a doubt. Specially if I could find a wagon.

@atmartens

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Focus RS all the way!!!!!

Never even considered both of these compared to eachother, but this makes sense considering the age and price. I would love to see a drag race between these two.

Interestingly the AWD system in the BS Badlands and Maverick Tremor are designed from the AWD Focus RS.

I have a 03 Audi A4 Avant 3.0 with a 6 speed and sport suspension which I have owned since new. Mechanically, it has been super reliable. You just have to be on top of regular maintenance and fix small issues before they become a major issue. The major problem is electrical gremlins. My Audi still drives like new with 130k miles and is so much fun to drive. Cannot beat Audi Quattro! I would definitely take the RS4 over the Focus.

@petelattimer6808

Жыл бұрын

you should try living with European spec Audis then. my Niece has one. still under 100k miles and its in the workshop every other month having something fixed. and its NOT an isolated issue, since here theyre mostly rebadged versions of VWs (the A3 for example, is essentially a Golf) and VAG now are probably worse for issues than Jaguar here.

@bldontmatter5319

Жыл бұрын

​@@petelattimer6808 euro spec cars are meant for euro spec roads. On American roads with American maintenance, they don't last. German cars need German style maintenance. Don't forget, Germany teaches people how to maintain a car... In middle school.

RS4 my dream car. i have an a4 such a masterpice. i love it.

Love the Focus RS it would be a great sporty car to have !

@deejayimm

Жыл бұрын

Sporty is the worst word to describe a car.

@raphaelvermin

Жыл бұрын

The 4 door car with back seats, a front wheel drive transmission, and a 4cyl motor? Sporty? Do you know what a "sports car" is? LoL

The focus rs was killed by the dealerships marking them 20k over msrp. Hate Ford dealerships.

For a car enthusiast that wants something somewhat practical, yeah totally makes sense to cross shop these.

I have many Audis in my day most I buy used and they are expensive to maintain but they drive great up there with the finest cars in the world

Sleeper? These are about as far from sleepers as you can get outside of supercars. Sure they compete with each other. The Focus RS was my lottery car for a while. Now it's between an RS Q8 and a Stelvio Quadrifoglio.

The RS4 avant never came to the USA that I know of, ever.

I drive a NB 2018 fully stock and will stay that way

I've always loved the Focus. I had an '03 SVT Focus and it was great! Since Ford decided to get ride of cars they need to bring back a street truck version of maybe a Maverick or Ranger like the good old Lightning!

@markcoopers1930

Жыл бұрын

It was so strange. Those Fiestas and focuses have been popular in the UK for decades but apparently that wasn't enough to keep them going. Ford seemingly leaves a lot on the table. If Ford actually cared about the Lincoln brand they'd have made a stretched, fastback, full 4 seat GT type luxury sedan with soft suspension based on the Mustang platform ages ago. It's the one car they wouldn't dare get rid of, might as well get the most out of their R&D dollars already spent. Instead the last few Lincoln cars are infamous for having barely changed any interior bits from their Ford models, and some slightly spicy engines that were reliable enough so long as they weren't put in anything heavier (Explorer ST). But they've based their business model on the safety and emissions exemptions heavy trucks and SUVs have had since the 1920's and their lobby dollars tell us that won't change.

@bobhill3941

Жыл бұрын

Those SVT Focuses were cool, especially for a 16 year old boy.

@BEABEREAN10

Жыл бұрын

I agree - maverick RS Street truck with this 4 banger turbo would be amazing.

@txvet7738

Жыл бұрын

@@BEABEREAN10 yeah a 2.3 EcoB. would be mean in a Maverick RS!

I have a 2014 Ford Focus SE. I can very easily tell the difference between the regular Focus, ST, and RS.

@joevarga5982

25 күн бұрын

What's your point?

The AWD in these cars is a big reason they're so quick. My buddy had an RS and he regularly embarrassed me in my Caliber SRT-4 with 400whp. Brenden... That RS is NOT stock. It's got a Cobb intake, exhaust and it sounds like it's got a catless downpipe. Probably tuned, too, if it has those bolt-ons. Ford didn't really sell many RS's here because they didn't bring the 2-door everybody wanted. We wanted the Euro RS, not just anything with an RS badge on it. Booooo... No head to head drag race. You need a buddy to film with.

@petelattimer6808

Жыл бұрын

the euro RS was 5 door too.

Future classic? The Audi RS4 is one of my all time favorite cars. What’s wild to me is I keep an eye on them price wise and I’ve never seen one below 30K. At least in my area in Indiana. The Focus is cool but I’d easily take the Audi over it. Also, I think they only made it for the 2007 and 2008 years.

Having owned both vehicles, I’d recommend you spend your money on the RS4. It is much faster, more smooth and comfortable, and more iconic. The Focus RS is super fun to drive and outrageously quick, but it is nightmarishly uncomfortable to drive. Also, while it comes with upgraded tech (Bluetooth etc), Ford Sync is horrendously glitchy and frustrating to use. RS4 has a 6 CD changer and 2 SD card slots and some seriously beefy mid-2000s Bose speakers, which if you’re an enthusiast in it for the drive, that’s all you need.

@KCMotamedy

Жыл бұрын

LOL Audi more Iconic

super rare RS4 > Focus RS Audi will be more costly to maintain though

Are either really sleepers? The Focus was a beloved car that’s sorely missed. Audi is well known for their AWD systems as well. Both the Focus and Audi have rally pedigree.

@markcoopers1930

Жыл бұрын

But everyones' Grandma in Chicago had a focus, and the average joe doesn't know what RS means. So long as you don't go crazy with the aesthetic bolt-ons or paint or rev too hard stoplight to stoplight then it's definitely an "if you know you know" car. Which is classic sleeper criteria. As for the Audi, it's usually the drivers that are sleepers. Probably never hit 2500rpm in the engines entire life.

@garysarratt1

Жыл бұрын

I remember them being widely mocked.

There's no comparison between a high-end RS line from Audi and a Ford Focus - LOL, come on now!

Cool, but what does it feel like to drive each one? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

I've heard that the focus RS is like a modern mazdaspeed 6. Theres a lot of stuff that's similar between the two. It's a shame they only made a few thousand of the 6's though.

Back when the Focus RS came out I really wanted one, but the dealers wanted a ton of money over sticker. So I got a Mustang instead. Would still love an RS, but they are hard to find in good condition where they were not beat on.

@artybrandt

4 ай бұрын

Yeah i was looking for MONTHS before I found a 1 owner with a meticulous service history. Yeah, the miles were higher than I wanted. But at 110k, judging the miles mostly being highway looking at the service locations, I knew I was going to end up buying it. 100% stock too.

Would you say these are better than a brand new BRZ or GR86? They seems to be pretty comparable in price.

Did you have the focus rs in race mode?

To me there is no bad comparison. All info is good info. That being said, I did my best to research and whittle down my car purchase. The line up was VW Golf R, Honda civic Type-R, Toyota Supra, toyota GR86, Subaru STI, Audi TT. I was looking for Stock performance. It had to be AWD. It had to be Manual Transmission. It had to have sunroof(or Convertible), It had to be unique. I wanted half decent gas mileage. It had to be new enough to have all of the cool widgets( we got my daughter a far newer car than i had and i was shocked at all the cool new stuff). Basically the RS checked all of the boxes for ME. All of those cars listed are awesome in my book, Supra....handles major boost but visibility is terrible, Golf R best version is paddles doesnt look great. etc etc.

Don't know who out here calling an RS a sleeper with that massive wing and super aggressive front end. They also sold the RS for 3 years, 2016 to 2018

@warriormonx

11 ай бұрын

Yeah and it wasn't 'discontinued; - the Mk1 and Mk2 Focus's were also only 3 year runs by design

Rs4 avant for the win.

I love that focus RS

I get so many looks when I drive focus rs so it’s not that sleeper 😁 But that car is made for european b roads not for straigth line accelerations. Pops and bangs comes from factory not from after market exhaust.

You didn't talk about one of the coolest features on the Focus RS the DRIFT MODE!!!!!

16-20 year old boys are very excited about this video 😂

The ford dealer in my town had the RS priced at 60k and they wouldn't let anybody test drive it. It sat for a long time at that price

@atmartens

Жыл бұрын

What’s sad is that it only takes one stupid person to overpay for them to justify over pricing it.

@jf8188

Жыл бұрын

Dealers should be banned. No more middle man. We need to be able to buy directly from the manufacturer

Not even a competition. Focus RS is great and all, but the RS4 has one of the greatest engines ever made. Idc if it’s slower in the real world, cars like these are about fun and it doesn’t get more fun than the RS4

Problem is, you have to be associated with focus weebs if you buy one.

No one remembers the Focus RS head gasket issue :/. Got a Golf R over the RS but was trying hard to get the RS. I got lucky.

Looks like the stock exhaust to me on the RS4

A friend of mine had an RS4 a little while back. Thing was constantly in the shop. Barely got to drive the thing.

@401nate2

Жыл бұрын

What was it in the shop for?

@anthonykiedis1765

Жыл бұрын

@@401nate2 multiple fuel pumps, random misfires, vacuum leaks, wheel bearing issues. Also, electrical issues. Can't remember exactly what, but he was replacing fuses quite frequently.

Thank you Brendan, Ford would represent what I can afford, but Audi is what I desire.

@petelattimer6808

Жыл бұрын

until the repair bills come flooding in, as my niece has found with her Audi. im fairly confident she will never own another VAG car.

@thebigguy8306

Жыл бұрын

@@petelattimer6808 Understand that, owned an A5 and a 4000, overall great cars, 200k each, but lots of bells and whistles to keep working

Ford just made it more feasible so all day everyday the better bang for the buck is the focus

I wish the focus didn’t have that boy racer look and I would buy it.

Man I miss my Focus RS

The Focus is going away in Europe as well, sadly😢.

The focus likes to be higher in the rev range

I'd say the head gasket in the ford is blown

Ford imo, pulled the Focus from US market earlier than expected, because of the awful Powershift auto transmission, as for the RS it probably wasn't feasible to offer just one model?

Bugeye subie is the best

Wait.... When did a RS become a sleeper?

Damn - the Focus owner couldn't have detailed the car before the test? Its filthy!

I would deff rather my b7 rs4 100% I've seen many rs focus around! But only one in New Brunswick Canada that has a b7 rs4 :-) ❤my baby :-)

Stock exhaust on that RS4

The Audis exhaust was stock.

We dont get the focus eather in the EU. The Fiesta and focus are discontinueed..

As much as I like the Audi, the Focus RS would be my choice between the two. Audi's notoriety for unreliability is the primary factor. The Focus RS is mostly a manual Focus, and having had one of that generation, they're pretty much trouble-free (as long as it's not one of the early-build ones with the wrong head gasket).

@lukefakhoury3098

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much all of the ones with the head gaskets got fixed since there was a recall on it

@timprice8877

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@lukefakhoury3098 no ford said they would fix it under warranty 16-17 model years, They addressed the head gasket issue for 2018, But quit selling it here in the states after that year 😢

@JamesPhieffer

Жыл бұрын

So long as you don't have the "powershift" DCT automatic, the Focus is pretty reliable, speaking as someone who owns a 2013 (with the DCT 🤦🏼‍♂️).

@timprice8877

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesPhieffer I didn’t even know they made 2013-2014 Focus with a dct, all manual here in the states, I thought only the newer 2.3L ST’s had dct. I own a 2013 Race Red ST3 but it’s manual, & I absolutely love the trans compared to my Wrx.

@JamesPhieffer

Жыл бұрын

@@timprice8877 the DCT was the only automatic available in that Focus generation (2012-18). There were 2 versions, apparently (wet vs dry clutch). And both are inferior to a torque converter automatic (like the Escape, built on the same platform, had). I believe the same DCT was the automatic for the Fiesta as well. Mine's a hatchback SE with the 201A package, I believe it was. That gave it a bunch of features from the Titanium, such as 4 wheel disc brakes. The car is loaded, only missing automatic climate control and the touchscreen with Sony audio, and its a good car, except for the transmission. As for the Focus ST, it was only ever available with the 2.0 litre EcoBoost and 6-speed manual.

Wasn’t 7000 RS’s was about 13xxx. Love mine have had 2 would get a 3rd in a heartbeat

I'm pretty sure the greedy dealerships killed the fovus rs with all those mark ups

Audi has the better awd system by far with the 4 to 1 center diff. Which can give you a true 20/80 split. Ford is front wheel drive with over run rear. Yes you can drift but it wont feel like a rear wheel drive car like the Audi. It is a same Ford destroyed there own market. VW is doing the same right now with the golf r .

i have an rs

Defenitely The Ford is hot looking..i like it.

had a Rs and ST Focus. NOW have a RS 4 B7 V8 .But in UK There everywhere Not so much RS4 There RARE .2 Buy Between 10 and 20K Depend's on Miles Greeting's Form a cross the Pond

The b8 rs4 is already a classic. No chance for the ford

Lololol as a current rs4 owner, bro, you barely even touched the rpm in it. You gotta force yourself to let it rev higher than youre used to. The power is in those higher rpms.

3.000 sleeper

wider guy? Ha you mean fat! but love ya buddy!

Seats almost look identical

Although you’ll find it dead on the side of the road, RS all day. Audi is excellent under warranty.

So, rev the RS to 3800 RPM, rev Audi to 5900 then are surprised the Audi is faster? TFL, come on. RS was just entering boost when shifted. Probably at maybe 200lb ft torque. My kids 2019 Hond’r Fit would have seemed quick if you compared cars that way.

@Shredmo

Жыл бұрын

With that said, clear, well done review. Can certainly respect that aspect.

If the RS was a true sleeper, the dealerships would have never marked them up. But Ford Salesmen knew about this car, and marked them up into extinction. They can only be called sleepers now because they all are sleeping on jack stands with blown motors.

I wouldn't call either of these cars "sleepers"

Future classics? What?

F150 eco boost with a tune

😂😂😂 the focus RS isn’t 30k. We live in the United States, they are still close to 50k.

Wtf is he going to talk at all about the solenoid issues where you have to pull the engine, this guy do not like

This are not sleepers lol?

Only thing these two share are they were built in Germany. 🤷🏼‍♂️

By wider he means fat

Focus RS 280whp, add a COBB air intake now the Focus RS has 280whp. Those RS were blowing head gaskets from left to right and Audis depreciate very quickly for a reason. I will stay away from both cars. BTW, good review.

@petelattimer6808

Жыл бұрын

no they werent blowing headgaskets left and right. a batch of them were fitted with the head gaskets for the ecoboost MUSTANG. they fit but the boost pressures etc are different, and a few other variations i believe, which was why they blew head gaskets, but still not as often as a Subaru. very few Focus RS's had head gasket issues that werent fitted with the wrong head gasket in the first place

@j0hny00s

Жыл бұрын

@@petelattimer6808 thank you for explaining that. ‘16 RS owner here since 2018 and mine was replaced before I bought it. I’ve not had any problems with the car. The head gasket issue was so damn overblown since all you see on the internet is people having issues and not the other 90% that had no problems.

@MastersOfMask

Жыл бұрын

@@petelattimer6808, you are absolutely right that a batch of them were blowing head gaskets. Ford only sold a batch of them, so yes, they were blowing head gaskets from left to right.

@MastersOfMask

Жыл бұрын

@@j0hny00s, it was like 90% of them that were blowing head gaskets.

@runningwildttv3648

Жыл бұрын

Clown

Stealerships ruined the Ford Focus rs, like they ruin everything else with their markups.

Neither are worth it you will spend more time in the shop or under it than enjoying it

LOL No question, RS4 all day!

Focus RS if you want to drive it. Audi of you want to garage it.

The Focus RS didn't last because it was over priced for all the plastic that's inside it. With how many people love it or at least the concept of it, it should have been selling well but the price for plastic wasn't worth it.

they definitely compete in unreliability

@jonsimmons945

Жыл бұрын

Not even close, but okay

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

​@@jonsimmons945Audi is definitely much worse, but both are unreliable.

@naf2579

Жыл бұрын

Got 65k miles on my Focus RS, not a single issue. Not sure whats so unreliable?

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

@@naf2579 Cool,but 65k is not a lot. My old STI made it to 120k before it started having issues.

@naf2579

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealCatof Every car will eventually have something but to call the Focus RS "unbelievable" doesn't make sense. There is nothing inherently wrong with it unlike the Audi. I don't daily mine so it will probably never see over 100k.

The Focus RS looks awesome. The Audi looks good for old people.

Both cars will do 174mph but the Focus doesn't feel safe beyond 150mph the rs4 does it with ease. I have owned both. The build quality on the RS is rubbish no seat adjustment terrible engine. Great steering feel and handling and raucous if you like to hoon around

Doubt they'll be collectable, there's millions of them. The Yaris GR will be, far fewer produced and far more special.

Keep in mind that the backseat in the Audi is useless.

I'll take the Focus. Don't feel like spending a significant amount extra on German "build quality" and overpriced parts.

Easiest choice ever, the audi wins by a mile... That being said, I'd never want to own either given their reliability...

@Modmaann

11 ай бұрын

Rs is bullet proof If you've looked up the reason for the recall it wasn't even fords fault as a shipment of heads that were for non RS cars were labeled as RS and were installed on the cars Hence why the head gaskets were failing. Once the RS heads are on they are very reliable.

Rs never cost 30 grand…

@jonsimmons945

Жыл бұрын

Clearly they are referring to what you would buy one for TODAY...

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

Used Audis are dirt cheap because they depreciate like rock.

Only difference is ones a Ford ones an audi

V8 vs 4t, thats y it feels faster, its a mans engine

They discontinue the focus RS because It had catastrophic head gasket failures from the added boost and engine design flaws.

@petelattimer6808

Жыл бұрын

the head gasket issues were due to a batch of engines being fitted with the head gasket for the MUSTANG version of the same (basically) engine. they had different spec head gaskets.

@noneyabizz8337

Жыл бұрын

False

Poor Focus RS is all riced out.

Cars past 2004 or so dont really have a chance at becoming classics. Nobody idolizes even the late 90s stuff like a 1980s or 70s car. Theyre not as stylistic or interesting, and newer cars make a joke of them