Thanks for your explanation, I'm about to order and am going between the 410s and 373s and am just a weekend warrior but this cleared up a lot.

Great video as always! Nice to see you back

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's good to be back at it. Had a project for work that I needed to focus on. More to come. Thanks for continuing to watch!

thanks for your channel!!

Appreciate the vid. I second everything you said. I got the same set up with a limited longhorn last month and a 9K travel trailer. Yes towes like a champ. Wow the Ike gauntlet I know that was a good test. We're excited to get out there early next year. Hopefully we'll cross paths as we're in Wake County.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. That would be pretty cool. We aren't far from each other. We're basically in Alamance. Yea the Ike Gauntlet definitely showed me what the truck has

This is funny, your logic is exactly like the way I thought this through before buying a 2022 RAM 3500 6.4 HEMI with 3.73 gears.

Quality content. 3.73 are a potent trailering setup like you have. Gas engines do rev in Colorado but while it may be unnerving to someone like a diesel owner, but these gas engines can run for 100s of hours at 4K rpm with no issue. Ford SuperDutys come with 3.55 and 4.30 in the F250 and 3.73 and 4.30 in F350 but with a 10 speed trans. 7th is 1:1 and 3 overdrives. First is ridiculously low. If I may, personal skid steer story from last year. I rented one from a company and let him hook it up. Was his machine and trailer. It was well forward of the axles but had some room in the front. My F250 has 3061 payload and yellow SumoSprings. I pulled out on a major highway with my finder over the trailer emergency brake. I hit 50 and the trailer started swaying badly. Amazing how people get out of your way. Rode home at 40 but there was one downhill section that almost did me in. For about a 4 count I wasn’t sure how it was going to go with trailer brakes on 10 and me trying to break the switch. I had never towed a 10k skid steer and that’s all in me. When I took it back I loaded it about 1.5 feet further forward it and behaved as it should. Safe travels. Congrats on the land.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend. This is helpful info on the Ford gear ratios. I'm glad everything turned out well with the skid steer towing experience. It sounds like it got dicey there for a little bit. I bet it had to be tough on the nerves. While skid steers may not have as big of a profile as travel trailers, they are not light and have a much smaller point that all that weight of it is concentrated on. It is definitely a great heads up as I move into shaping up the land. Thanks for adding value!

You’re absolutely right man. 373s are a good option for towing. They just get a little bit better mpgs when not towing than the 410s. Sure if it has the 410s it would do better uphill but it’s still a bomb setup you have man.I’ve heard really nothing but good things from the new Chevy 6.6 gassers that only come with a 6-spd trans and 373s. There’s a guy I watch on here that uses ford 350/450 all day but he bought a GMC 6.6 gasser and said he was surprised how well it tows. And he was towing a skid steer aw well man. Keep up the good work and stay safe. But going off of your thought and all me and wife is the same way we do NOT need a diesel not with the maintenance costs and repair costs. And I don’t buy a truck to worry about fuel mileage, I’ve heard it said before, it the truck can’t do everything I need it to do then what good is it.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for adding value. The 3.73s will definitely get the job done. Has for years.

Good Video, Good info... Thanks

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for watching

That’s a bad ass looking truck cuz. Bravo

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it my friend

Great video

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir

KZread got people crazy these days thinking they don’t have enough truck. Modern pickups make serious power. People were doing this 25 years ago with similar gear ratios and like 210 horsepower and 325 torque in an f250. Nice truck by the way.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed and thank you. Very good point.

@christopher.96

Жыл бұрын

Some equipment is heavier now a days, but I agree. So many dudes daily driving a diesel truck for the 3 times a year they tow 12,000 lbs. 😅

@clevercloverlawncare5066

Жыл бұрын

@@christopher.96 but they’re real men.

You’re right, it’s not that big of a deal. I intentionally chose 3.73. I have a diesel and it all works fine for me! Great Video!!

@Yahusha77

2 жыл бұрын

You have a diesel. This is about the hemi gas with 3.73. Most diesels have an even lower axel like 3.42. Diesels have so much more torque, that you don’t need higher gear ratios.

@anthonyk8716

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yahusha77 Mines a 3.73. I was actually ordering an F250 through my credit union car buying service, but the dealer sold it and I seen this RAM one day in Pawleys Island and bought it.

Same setup, except I have the 6-speed trans. No problems. I won't win any races on the interstate on-ramp, but once my speed is built up, it does perfectly fine. It's an interesting topic as I stressed over this a while back wondering if I made a mistake.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you my friend. I don't regret it especially with the way gas prices are soaring. I don't think you made a mistake at all. Sorry for the late reply. I missed this somehow

@edwardjski

6 ай бұрын

Any regrets or other thoughts on the 6-speed -especially regarding towing?

@BigfootDadExploresMontana

6 ай бұрын

​@@edwardjski- nope, not yet. 3 years and full-timing in RV now. No issues with performance. It has been shifting a little odd lately when not towing so keeping my eye on that. Otherwise all is good after 10s of thousands of miles of heavy towing.

Great video with a lot of good info, but I have a 2020 Ram 2500 tradesmen’s 6.4 hemi with 4.10 gears. From the factory I can tow 17100 lbs compared to the ram with 3.73 gears at 14500 lbs, that’s a huge difference.

@edwardjski

6 ай бұрын

It's a huge difference if you need tow more than 14,500 lbs.

I pulled a dump trailer that put my gross weight at 22580. 3.73 gears 6.4 hemi. Had power to spare.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it. These trucks can get it done well

Ugh...I wish I would have found your video and had it been made before I ordered(Nov 6,2021) my 2500 with the 4.10. I just took delivery of it last friday 2/11. And I can't believe the gas mileage. About 10 mpg. I will admit I also have 35x12.5x20s on it as well. Not sure how much more the 3.73 would provide, but I wish I had it now!

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh man. That's rough. Yea I don't think your wheels are helping you either BUT I bet you've got a nice looking truck!

@nuke9905

Жыл бұрын

I’m in the same situation with 20s x 35s. I’ve been running it for a year now and in comparison to my ram with 3:92 the 4:10 is overkill for me. I’ve decided to swap gears to 3:73. For me in the long run. It will be worth it.

@xGR1MxREAPERx

2 ай бұрын

Don’t feel bad bro. The 3.73-4.10 mpg is .5mpg. It isn’t that much of a difference. The 35” tires are what is killing your gas mileage. If you had 3.73’s it would be even worse because those gears work even harder to spin those heavy tires. Plus your truck will tow way better with 4.10. You made the right choice

Agree 100%, I get asked why I got 3:73 gas? I’m only towing 3 to 4 times a month. If I was towing heavy for work I would had got the diesel.

@liveyourfree

Жыл бұрын

💯

I would say think of it less of how much you can tow and try to think of it as more of how often your gonna tow…..4:10 gives you a greater mechanical advantage, which in turn really benefits your transmissions longevity specifically with heat and torque converter lock up if you are pulling “heavier” and or often (not so much max load)…..I have seen slightly better or the same economy with the 4:10 while towing, again depends on if your planning on towing frequently or are more of a weekend warrior but if your getting even the same mileage while towing your saving on the trans

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Fair point my friend. Thanks for adding value

@Pinehollowmechanical

2 жыл бұрын

@@liveyourfree Thank you for the videos I am very much enjoying your venture into hot shoting and very much enjoy the info from the business and numbers side of things

I have a 2014 ram slt with the 6.4 hemi and 3.73. With the six speed trans my tow rating is 12,100. My fifth wheel weighs 12,000. No problem on flat ground, but the mountains are a different story. I barely made it up some of the Colorado passes. It was a terrible experience and frankly it felt unsafe. Wish I had the new 8 speed transmission with the 4.10 gears rated to tow over 17,000 pounds!

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

The new 8 speed transmission from what I hear makes a huge difference. I took mine with my 7500lb travel trailer through the CO passes and it made it. Slowly but it made it. I think the bigger issue going through those mountains is the elevation and lake of oxygen. I used to think the 4.10 gears would have made a huge difference but at that altitude I don't think it would. It would if you were starting from a dead stop but I was already in motion and in higher gears. For your situation, I would attribute it also to really having 12klbs on your back. That's a lot of weight!

@Yahusha77

2 жыл бұрын

@@liveyourfree Yea it is a lot of weight. I’ve pulled much heavier, even 20,000 pounds without a problem, but that was on flat ground at lower elevation. You are definitely right about the lack of oxygen in the mountains. It makes a huge difference. Might need to look into a super charger that forces more air into the motor.

If your going to run heavy 35” tires get the 4.10 gears. It goes lower amounts better and the mpg is exactly the same when you have heavy 35” tires. 3.73 don’t get any better mileage and actually get worse sometimes with bigger tires.

Nice truck. I have a 2021 Ram 2500 6.4 hemi with 3.73 gears. I am curios what kind of fuel mileage you are getting. Your in town and highway mileage not hauling or towing. Thank you

Just picked up my 2500 6.4L Hemi with the 3.73. My RV max weight is 10,500 and the tongue weight is 1,200. My new truck towing max is 14,200 and using the 10% rule the max tongue weight is at least 1,400. Plenty of cargo capacity (2,954). How does my setup look to your eyes.

@mad125100

7 ай бұрын

I have a 5th wheel with a 10,500 gvwr. I am looking at the ram 2500 gas. Are you happy with the 3:73 gears?

I currently have a 2021 Ram 1500 . Looking at Ram 2500 gas. What did you see on the difference when towing your travel trailer.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

It was a very different and positive experience. The trailer sway i felt in the 1500 became pretty much non existent. The 1500 actually got better gas mileage than the 2500. The 2500 definitely was more planted and more stable. I appreciate how capable my half ton was but also appreciate the improved towing experience that the 2500 provides

Can a 2019 2500 3.73 tradesmen long bed, pull 14,000 pounds? I’m looking for a truck strong enough to pull dump trailer. Dump trailer is 4,000 pounds with a 10,000 pound limit. So 14,000 pounds total. Probably end up towing it a few times a month. Please let me know

@adamshaw8214

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I've already done it.

But what the gas mileage difference between a 6.4hemi with 3.73 and 4.10?

Will it tow good with 3.73 with a dump trailer and landscape trailer?

Just got 24, 2500 w/3.73!

@liveyourfree

2 ай бұрын

Congrats! You will enjoy it!

I have the 4:10 2500. The fuel economy is horrible and I hate the high rev in the engine compared to my 1500 3:92. I’ve already contacted my go to auto shop to do a gear swap for me and pricing. Just waiting on the estimate now. *Note * we haul on a regular basis 8-10000 lbs, our 1500 is the go to for this as the 2500 seems overkill. The truck is just geared way to low for our needs and mostly the 2500 is used as my construction work truck so a lot of highway traveling involved. I go the 2500 for the capabilities of lasting longer and handling off road sites better then the half tons, just not liking the low gear rev and horrible fuel economy.

@liveyourfree

Жыл бұрын

I can understand that. Please keep us posted on how everything comes along

I have the same truck mine has a 6 speed automatic. Do you notice much of an oil temperature change when towing up long hills. Mine have went to around 250 degrees but quickly goes back to normal after cresting the hill

@liveyourfree

11 ай бұрын

I haven't noticed it but I am.in the middle of a trip now that is going through mountains. I will keep an eye on it.

No. It's not a problem. And even 3.31 ratio in Durango is not a problem. Because you have more than enough ratios in ZF 8 speed. Just because you are using 5 and 6 with trailer makes no difference. On mountain climbs the transmission will deep to 4 or even 3 while the rpms are still around 4000, which is totally fine.. Your 7 and 8 are needed for going solo fast and efficiently, this is their purpose.

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation. Thanks for adding value!

How's the truck holding up bro' Any problems?'

I think it’s more than a 1000 pds difference between the two

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

I just went back and looked at my comparable numbers and you are right. I mispoke. It is more than 1000 pds but it doesn't change my points as they still stand true. Thank you for correcting me and bringing value to the video!

1,000 lbs. is why I leave my in-laws home.

@liveyourfree

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Bro no need to explain, Get what works for You. 😆 😂

And here's some reasons why you should get the 4.10: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZImEyJKapNDJpqw.html

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@bryanvogt3371

2 жыл бұрын

@@liveyourfree Also if you plan to plow, 4.10 is best

@liveyourfree

2 жыл бұрын

@Bryan Vogt no plans to plow. 4.10s not worth it for me. I care about gas more and 3.73 is still a great towing gear BUT that doesn't mean the 4.10 won't be a better setup for someone else. Depends on the use