instead of choosing the fastest motherboard, simply chose a random motherboard and never look up reviews post purchase. cant be disappointed if you dont even know how bad its running

@vh9network

2 ай бұрын

Ha, that's how I bought a MSI X399 SLI Plus motherboard and the 2990WX CPU in 2018. A long with a VEGA 56 GPU that I doubled, I was returning the PC industry after a 6 year hiatus and I remember having so many teething issues with that CPU. Fast forward to today I've finely tuned that 2990WX to provide top ZEN+ single thread performance, and exceptional MT performance, only topped by its successors (3975WX and up)

Very helpful discussion of features, thanks.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Could u clear something up for me with the proart z790 please. I run the board but with the thunderbolt ports and a usbc drive I seem to get my drive speeds capped to 950mbps read and write. It’s a fast drive and on the front usb c will run at 1750mbps. Is this due to the face thunderbolt when running a usbc peripheral not a thunderbolt caps the speed? Appreciate your knowledge always. Your videos have always been a big help

On a similar topic, I often do some 4k recording. Files typically over 40gb but more importantly nearly a terrabyte of footage at the end of a session. Currently writing onto a 4tb P3 nvme, works fine but curious as to if this is fine for the drive's health? Should I be investing into something else? Mostly just concerned by the amount of write cycles I'm doing daily.

@frp1276

2 ай бұрын

You can monitor the drive's health with their software. A higher end drive will have more endurance generally. You could also use enterprise disks which can have wild endurance.

@Helios.vfx.

Ай бұрын

if you ever change your drives. Look up for the most TWB terabytes written, but I did notice there is a new higher way to measure which is PTW : petabytes written. With those drives youll have plenty of life to write and write. Ive seen entersprise SSDs like intel second hand those drives do have a bunch of like spam, too. But with the higher PTW drives you could find, you;d be fine.

does the aero G have the option to boost the i7-14700k to 6ghz in the bios too?

Excellent wrap-up

I'm thinking of buying this to pair with my 5950X AM4 as I'm going previous gen. Like you I'm a creator and I heard you when you said you would not be recommending MSI but that was in relation to the latest gen CPUs. As I'm going last gen I found this and it has an HDMI connection so I'm assuming it has what I would need as a creator? MSI MPG X570S CARBON MAX WIFI Motherboard ATX - it just doesn't have 10GB ethernet but does have 2.5GB ethernet connection it's also half the price of the X570 Pro Art for AM4

always great videos. thanks

Great video on the nuances of higher end motherboards. My issue that I currently have is a build that has good support for a 2 gpu setup for GPU rendering. Obviously Threadripper will give the bandwidth for full gen 5 pci-e 16 slots. However, because current (and it would seem near future) gpus are only gen 4, it really is wasting the pci-e lanes. I'd really like to see manufacturers release hybrid gen 5 x8/gen 4 16x gpus, though they probably don't because of expense. Can you do a video on how well 2 gpu setups run on these motherboards for renderers like me?

@frp1276

2 ай бұрын

How much does it matter? If you're packing that many GPUs they'll be limited performance anyways

@promographics1654

2 ай бұрын

What are you rendering in?

@ansoncall6497

2 ай бұрын

Redshift, which utilizes multiple GPU's very well. @@promographics1654

@ansoncall6497

2 ай бұрын

It matters a lot, Redshift handles multiple GPU's very well and I'm only thinking two GPUs. But on consumer boards if you stick two GPUs in and it switches to 8x/8x mode, and the GPU's are on Gen 4, then they're running at 8x gen 4, which is the same as 16x gen 3. It's a waste of gen 5 lanes. This means perhaps only threadripper is a decent option. @@frp1276

Can you provide information about the via USB-C (video input) connected drawing tablets/screens? I would like to dive into that topic

love your video so much, can you make another video about m-atx and itx version?

Will all motherboards eventually get 10Gbe LAN? Or is that silly for the home market (and home wiring)?

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Not everyone wants it/needs it, but I hope so! :)

My z690 Ace has internal GPU voltage settings, Type C does not require dGPU to power it only if you use the 2 thunderbolt connections otherwise the single C-port bottom left is used as a display port

I thought those TR mobos would have like 8 banks of ram. If this has 4 banks of ram, as any other non HEDT pc. would it still support 256gb ram?

I've notice my asus z790 proart chipset temps are in the mid 69°c in idle. Is it normal or is it cos i've populated all the nvme m.2 slots? How's your lauri?

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

mine very hot as well, it's normal

@Prabhu_njd

2 ай бұрын

@@theTechNotice alright. I was thinking it was a bad design since the chipset heatsink is plastic. And i was thinking about upgrading my asus rog ryujin iii 360 aio to the new ek nucleus cr360 direct die aio. What do you think? Should i do it? I don't mind delidding my 13900ks.

what do you think about ASRock taichi motherboards?

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

ok, nothing Major for creators, don't think it has 10Gbe?

I need some guidance. I am not a creator, but I am a software engineer and I like to create virtual machines on my PC and also do occasional gaming at 1080p and some video processing with Cyberlink PowerDirector. The main usage is software development and virtualization though. I went with a Gigabyte X570S Aero G MB and a Ryzen 5900x (with superb results!) but I do not know which motherboard is best for my type of scenario. I do like to have 2 or 3 separate SSDs (one for the OS, another for storage, files, backups, etc). What do you recommend for the motherboard?

@johnplanzski9215

8 күн бұрын

Bump

A bit late to the video but i do wanna ask something on topic. Which motherboard would you pick? Gigabytes aero z690 ddr5 or msi pro-A z790 ddr5. Msi costs slightly more than gigabyte (about 20-30 usd) .. Now the question is, does it make sense to go for the newer chipset (msi) while losing a few creator focused features like visionlink. Or should i stick with aero and save a few bucks. For context, I've bought every other part for my build already, only the motherboard is left. I have an i5 13500 with 32gb ddr5 at 6000mhz.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

aero G or Aero D? I'd go with Gigabyte

@luvoverthewall

2 ай бұрын

@@theTechNotice aero g z690. Both aero d z690 and aero g z790 are very expensive at the moment, close to 400 usd. Meanwhile aero g z690 is around 250-300 usd

Out of the curiosity i just checked out MPG Z790 CARBON WIFI. It has HMDI 2.1 with hdr. it says like this: 1x HDMI™ Support HDMI™ 2.1 with HDR, maximum resolution of 4K 60Hz* *Available only on processors featuring integrated graphics. Graphics specifications may vary depending on the CPU installed. is ti the same support for igpu like on the Asus motherboards?

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

looks like it does support iGPU if that's what you're asking?

@djturbulencija

2 ай бұрын

Based on that, are they both have same igpu support quality and is there any more hardware disadvantages over for example Asus motherboards in terms of build quality or overclocking abilities? @@theTechNotice

My 10gb can be a pcie card or a thunderbolt adapter. I use both for different machines.

No Thunderbolt support on TRX50 AERO D correct?

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Correct

hey Tech Notice, can you review Arc A770 to live preview in premiere pro? advance thanks!

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

With which CPU?

@user-sq5gm9sf9r

2 ай бұрын

Preferably with a 12600k and 7600 since they are popular cpus on a budget for both productivity and gaming@@theTechNotice

@christian_dionisio

2 ай бұрын

@@theTechNotice any of those amd without igpu example 5900x or intel 13600k, any of these is good to test ✅

What about MSI Z790 TOMAHAWK wifi and max wifi?

Just subscribed, Great insights! You will be at 500k subs soon

Im using personally Gigabyte B760 gaming x with i9 13th gen and 128 gb ddr5 ram, never was happier before. Also i can use all 4 mine seagate external hdd besides inside ssd and hdd. Thanks for great vid as always.

Rog strix z790 E is what i went with in late 2022 for my 13th gen, pretty happy with it, always wanted lots of goddamn usbs :)))

@mmremugamesmm

Күн бұрын

Same. Asus makes good stuff but lacks after sales support

msi meg have type c display port, and support igpu ,. is not?

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Which MEG?

@IIII_MAD_IIII

2 ай бұрын

@@theTechNotice i mean generally, i think we can use usb cport as display port ,. but its not

@charleswp71

2 ай бұрын

​@@theTechNotice the z690 ACE has it, " 1x type-c display port, requires processor graphics" Also has 2 thunderbolt 4 type with display port passthrough.

@jeremybroderick9465

Ай бұрын

@@IIII_MAD_IIII yes the 690 ACE, the bottom left cport is the display port and voltage settings for the internal GPU are available in bios

Nice video on motherboards, In future I'm going to build my ultimate pc with a budget of 10k. Wish me luck 🍀

Most likely depends on which specific MSI model you have, I have HDMI support integrated with my MSI z790 carbon wifi ii in fact, Carbon series meant to be really good - Asus on the contrary is the most expensive yet providing the least amount of features brand most of the time, this very subjective of course but I went with MSI this time around - time will tell 😊.

Looking at the ProArt for AMD. Has USSB4.

I believe the MSI MEG Ace has iGPU support and will display video on the top USB-C connector, while the MSI Unify motherboard does not offer iGPU support.

Hi. Not necessarily related to the video but in regards to future proofing. Could you test proart x670e with a gpu of your liking like 3090 or 4090, with all m.2 slots occupied with m.2 drives and a asus hyper m.2 x16 gen 5 with 4 m.2 drives. Would that work in regards to pci lanes ? Big fan and build my pc following your videos.

Does the ProArt Z790 Motherboard support I9-14900K?

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

yes

@asafblasbergvideographer

2 ай бұрын

Thanks.@@theTechNotice

I'm a Blender creator, can you recomend a reason to go with AMD or Intel CPU's.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

if you do a lot of cpu based rendering and need performance per watt go AMD if not, Intel is the option :)

intel cpu is already good 100°C default .boosting it to 6ghz might make it hard to even 360 ml long radiators. isnt it?

IF and only ASUS ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI had 6 or more SATA III it would have been the only logical option But just 4 SATAIII doesn't cut it for me. I need those drives in my case. And NO nvme cannot substitute all the SSDs (yet) I'm considering ASROCK X670E Taichi Carrara what do you guys thing?

@amigatommy7

2 ай бұрын

Carrara is still available?

@NickKokkinos

2 ай бұрын

@@amigatommy7 yes but not too easy to find and still too expensive

10:53 MSI Z790 Ace does have igpu support.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

I stand corrected!

I think the GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Master X is amazing even with the no usb c video out. Everything should work great with the dual 20gb usb c ports.

Thanks Lauri.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Any time! No1 Commenter these days!

@cheekster777

2 ай бұрын

@@theTechNotice - Really enjoy your content. Have watched sooooo many of your videos since discovering your channel recently. Thank you. 🙏🏻

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Enjoy, there's a few hundred you can catch up upon! :)

interesting thought, 2x slower is half speed, not slow, and not fast, kind of halffast.

Although I really like the proart z790, I'm no creator and only do office related stuff, so I can't really justify its price (about €469)

I long ago built my creator pc for my husband, but i learned so much from this platforn that I still watch simply because it's so interesting. You make my nerd brain happy 🎉

Finally, a helpful motherboard video for content creators!

Nice vid.... For gaming - GPU speed and GPU dis n GPU dat 🧐🧐 Obviously for creators need a more nuanced approach 🙂🙂🙂

I think that you mistake about MSI MPG mobo's, at least for MPG Z790 Support: 1x HDMI™ Support HDMI™ 2.1, maximum resolution of 4K 60Hz* 1x DisplayPort Support DP 1.4, maximum resolution of 8K 60Hz* *Available only on processors featuring integrated graphics. Graphics specifications may vary depending on the CPU installed.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Which MPG Z790? The lower end ones have support for iGPU but the Unify & Godlike don't!

@mrrexy4151

2 ай бұрын

@@theTechNotice Mpg Z790 edge D4 or D5 have...and it have 5 M.2 slots, it's not lower end mobo...

YOU GOT IT WRONG ON MSI ACE, let me explain... You said it very correctly, if it doesn't have on-board graphics support, which you can easily tell by looking at whether or not it has video out (HDMI/Display Port) on the board, then it doesn't support the iGPU, right? If you look at the ACE board, it has onboard graphics support clearly stated on the spec sheet, and it also has a display port via the 10gbit type C port. The one with display port symbol. It baffled me that even der8aur got it wrong! Look a second time and make corrections because that is very misleading even though not intentional. The Godlike on the other hand, you hit the bulls eye and not only does it not have display port or on-board HDMI support, the spec sheet also clearly shows the luck of iGPU support. I like your style of content, but this one you missed with a landslide!

I'm trying to build a computer that would be fast at creating animation videos. My budget is around 10,000

I have an asus Hero X670E, it is as good as the X670E for creators, but I am afraid that the last CPU what will be supported for that MoBo will be the 9950x with only 16Cores / 32 Threads. After that, AMD will increase the cores, and this won't work with that MoBo (because in other forums some wrote that this is fact, but I hope they are wrong). The next gen Cpu 8950x won't be interesting for me, as it will be similar to the 7950x but just with a much better GPU part. So the next interesting CPU will be the 9950x what is rumored to be up to 40% faster than the 7950x and it will support faster RAM. So for me it is only one real generation what will still be supported by the X670E, I was hoping to be safe for 5 years with that moBo, but it will be more like just one year. At least this is what I understood from the rumors, and the 9950x should come out in late 2024.

If the CPU only has 20 PCIe Lanes, then that is a problem. Having a Workstation Graphics card, 2 Avid Audio capture cards, 2 video capture cards and 10G ethernet, rules out most modern "Creator" motherboards for me. I need at least 40 lanes to start with. My current X99 motherboard has 7 PCIe Slots and 8 RAM slots. Now I have to go to Threadripper or Xeon platforms.

Ummm, you didn't mention the MSI Z790 Edge TI Max Wifi...I know, A mouthful, but it has both HDMI and 8k Display port plus USBC. Any reason you withheld this one? Asus is paying you aren't they! Lol jk I really am joking . I enjoy your content because you are one of the few creators who is based on creat content computers. Everyone is all about gaming. Tha k you for the work you're putting in for us, but I will be switching from ASUS to the MSI mouthful motherboard . I've always been for Asus since 2005, but I'm making a switch.

Asus X670E ProArt offers terrible power delivery compared to other vendors! They offer 16 phases 70A. ASRock X670E Taichi, for instance, offer 24 phases 105A! That's a massive difference! The 10G Ethernet is a bit irrelevant, since not many internet providers offer that. In my region, 1Gbps is the max.

AsRock makes NZXTs' motherboards.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

yup

Gigabyte offers b650 aero d..

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

you mean aero G?

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

No MSI TRX50 Can't you guess? bro where MSI ?

Im going with proart b760 and i5 13600k for premiere and after effects

..you need to redo your sponsored segment audio. Probably was the most passive visually and actually very audibly pleasant sponsored segment. It is now confused and distracting, and just shoddy...

I am really surprised you would recommend this motherboard from asus to anyone after you posted a 45min Rand video about your awful RMA experience with this exact board. (Asus send him 5 broken boards, before he got a working one)

big no?

Hope you aren't the one that screwed over GearSeekers by having this board before him, overtightening the cpu and not putting the cpu cover back. Whoever did that, would be a greasy pathetic turd.

Watching $600 motherboards that I could never buy... Sigh...

@frp1276

2 ай бұрын

If you're still a kid, don't worry you'll get there. If you're an adult in the west it's time to make some changes

Just get the cheapest one! Don't invest , be a man!

You are just talking marketing bullshit, „ the name has creator in, so it great for creators“, „it has 10gig so it’s for creators“. There are a lot of motherboards that can be good for creators, you can add very affordable pcie card to any motherboards with enough pcie slot to get 10gig/25gig/40gig network and thunderbolt. Thunderbolt and 10g network on the board is nice but not necessary. these boards are very overpriced for what they are and their features . You don’t even mention any features besides 10gig and thunderbolt, no word about VRM, storage options, pcie bifurcation or pcie lane allocation. I will admit the 3 month adobe cloud is a useful rebait if you use it.

All this is bogus. An average motherboard today is what was in high end computers 10 years ago, and those were used to create blockbusters. Spending that much on a motherboard is misleading.

All MSI Z790 ACE boards do support igpu. The output is through USB-C rather than dp or HDMI.

@theTechNotice

2 ай бұрын

Yes you are right! Godlike and unify don't